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Storytelling Secrets: How To Keep People Listening - MrBallen

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MrBallen attributes his storytelling style to growing up surrounded by professional writers and storytellers, including a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist father who ran the Spotlight team at *The Boston Globe*, a writer mother, an older sister with two Pulitzers, and a younger sister pursuing a PhD in science. Despite struggling academically himself, he learned narrative techniques through osmosis from these high-caliber figures. He categorizes his specific approach not as deception but as strategic storytelling where details are intentionally withheld to maintain suspense rather than accuracy; by omitting information that will be revealed later, he sets up an incomplete narrative arc designed for a powerful final reveal without explicitly flagging the unusual nature of events in the first ninety percent of the story. The core of his method relies heavily on delivery and audience engagement rather than just the plot itself, as most stories require skilled presentation to captivate listeners. MrBallen constantly gauges reactions while building toward a twist where he reveals that everything described previously did not happen, ensuring no linguistic cues in the opening act tip off the audience about this impending deception. He avoids telegraphing major events too early because it causes audiences to guess prematurely, which undermines the impact of the final payoff; instead, every story on his platform is engineered with an intentional twist at the end that guarantees a surprise outcome if the listener stays engaged until the conclusion. To ensure authenticity before the reveal, MrBallen layers in small, realistic details such as family game nights or specific interactions like Kayla ushering her children out of the room when Mitch becomes unresponsive staring at a blurry lamp. These mundane elements create a sense of reality and human interaction that makes the eventual revelation—that none of this actually occurred—more impactful by first establishing deep investment in characters who appear to be living an ideal American dream life with date nights and mutual care. He argues that while these details might seem irrelevant to the core trauma story, they are essential for making the narrative feel genuine so that when he discloses the truth about Mitch's psychotic break or a killer lying under their own perspective, the audience feels cheated in a way that heightens the emotional resonance of the twist. A powerful example of his technique involves inhabiting perspectives to tell lies as truths within the framework of a story, such as narrating from the viewpoint of a murderer who is actively deceiving others about their actions. By adopting this perspective, he can honestly recount statements made by the killer that are factually false but presented as truth because they align with what that specific person believed or said at the time; thus, within the context of his narrative structure, these lies become valid components of the story rather than fabrications added for effect. This approach allows him to explore complex themes like trauma and criminal psychology while maintaining a layer of mystery until he can unveil how those perspectives were constructed on top of real events or complete falsehoods. Ultimately, MrBallen's philosophy centers on creating an authentic beginning that lures the audience in with normalcy before delivering unexpected plot twists that recontextualize everything heard previously. Whether discussing true crime cases where suspects lie to protect themselves or personal anecdotes involving medical trauma, his goal is always to make listeners believe they are witnessing real events until he fills in every gap at the end for a big reveal. He emphasizes that this method of layering authenticity and purposeful omission ensures that audiences stick around expecting something significant will happen, fulfilling their anticipation with a payoff that feels earned despite being entirely unexpected based on how the story was initially presented.
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how would you describe your style like where did it come from how did it originate what did you do to develop this particular and and how would you categorize it um so I think that there's some necessary context I I grew up around professional writers and storytellers my my father is a pulit prizewinning journalist he worked at the Boston Globe he ran the spotlight team which there was a movie made called Spotlight with Michael Keaton um that's that's like the type of investigative journalism he was doing so you know my dad is this very high-speed journalist my my mother is also professional writer radio host you know when she was younger um incredible writer my older sister is a two-time Pulitzer winner also a journalist the Boston Globe uh and my younger sister is a u a scientist she's a about to defend her dissertation get her PhD to be a b scientist so I say all that because I was not like a big- Time academic I was like you know barely scraping by and honestly did horrible as a student and uh but but growing up I was I was surrounded by people that were incredibly good writers and storytellers and almost you know unintentionally I learned how to speak you know I learned how to tell stories you know through osmosis and some genetic raw material as well per it's almost like you know I yeah yeah basically and um so I think that that is a big part of why I think I'm able to tell a story well is just being around really good storytellers um but I think in terms of my specific style which I would categorize as you know not deception but telling a story where I'm holding off details not to to make the story not accurate but rather uh using perspectives you know inhabiting certain perspectives in a story that allow you to effectively tell an angle of the story where you are knowingly omitting a portion of the story that's going to come in later that will actually answer questions the audience is going to have it's like I'm I'm setting you up for an incomplete story that I absolutely fill in every single Gap but in a way that's not like and then I'm going to explain it to you it just it happens where we've we've left all these holes and it gets filled in at the end for a big powerful reveal use the story that we just went through sure explain to me how you've constructed that tell me what's going on so it's really important to understand if you're going to tell a really good story that it has less to do with the story and much more to do with the delivery of the person telling it now that's not entirely true because there are some stories that are so outrageous they carry the day but most of the time if you're going to tell a story it's your delivery that's going to have the biggest impact on the audience and so for this you know I'm actually telling that that lamp story with only you in mind I'm not thinking about anybody else here I'm really just gauging your reaction to the story and so as a Storyteller I'm constantly trying to size up how my audience is reacting to what I'm saying um but in terms of that specific story I know that I'm building to a place where I'm going to tell you that everything that happened in the story didn't happen that's going to that's going to be the reveal but the best way to set that up is to not flag that there is anything unusual about the beginning of the story because it wrecks the reveal if there's any language whatsoever in the first 90% of that story that tips the audience that this might not really be happening it wrecks the story what would be an example of that he was in he was in school and hit and fell on the floor no it it actually it's it's devices that a lot of storytellers use that I think hurts their stories for example I could say uh go back going back to the lamp story you know he's first noticed the lamp right and so he's he sees a blurry lamp and so Mitch he sees the lamp it's blurry he can't make sense of it but what he didn't know is this lamp was going to ruin his life right yeah yeah yeah yeah now that's that's an overt example but there are little things that people think are are are good transitions between the story you know like leading the audience to get ready something Big's going to happen but if you Telegraph too much early in the story that you know get ready something Big's coming the audience will just start guessing what it's going to be and a lot of times it's fairly obvious that there's some element of the story that you know is going to be revealed to be different in the end so I would also say there's just Nuance to it when I'm for example I I added something into that story and it's part of the story but I usually don't add it in which is when uh Kayla came back in the house when Mitch is now unresponsive and he's staring at the lamp and he's not even reacting to her whereas the day before he was I made a point of saying that Kayla ushered her kids out of the room it's a small detail but it gives it a a level of reality that if you're the parent you've come in and the parent unresponsive that little detail reminds you that this is a real human having a real interaction if I don't include it it likely has no impact it doesn't matter that I you know whether Kayla did or did not shoe her kids away because of this crisis it it doesn't really matter but adding that in and delivering it not as like a I said it as if it absolutely happened like it's factual she shoed the kids away and then she dealt with her husband that's telling you here it is this is happening like engage with the story this is really happening but I'm doing it I want that I want it to feel as real as possible in the beginning so that the reveal actually has impact and that's why I added little kind of almost the they had game family game nights right that they really did but that's an important detail to the beginning of the story because I'm going to tell you it's all fake so it's like layering in things that create authenticity in the beginning of that story is really important because the way that the way that story often gets told is you people will start with here's a story about a guy who hit his head and he imagined his whole life and then it was taken away from him way yeah he was in his house and he saw this lamp and it was blurry but it turns out that was the beginning of this psychotic break he was having but it's like the audience there's no there's that's the thing is when I'm when I'm telling a story it's all about stick around because you're going to learn something that you you were not expecting there's going to be a plot twist there's going to be a reveal I'm instead of telling you that the way I tell a story always includes a payoff always there you I I guarantee you you can you can look at every single story I've ever put on the internet ever and there's a payoff at the end that is absolutely intentional and so your audience begins to believe begins to know that's what they get yeah there's loads of details and I'm not really sure where this is going but if I stick around something big is going to happen and I did that without even telling you it it's just the way I tell the story so are you adding stakes in the beginning as well it seemed like that as you're saying um they were in love and they do the the family thing and and it's the white picket fence and it's the American dream and they they make sure that they look after each other with date night and is the things that they do that's adding a degree of of stakes and I guess you're invested like you you like these people like you want to know what's going to happen to absolutely I mean that that the deal is is for this particular story I need the first part of the story to just feel like it happened which seems like a pretty easy charge but when Mitch describes what happens he does not spend a lot of time talking about whether or not you know Kayla shed the kids away when she walked in the house or whether they had game night those are little details that definitely happened but for him the story is the trauma itself the fact that this didn't really happen that's what he wants to talk or that's the the question that he's answering are going to be about the trauma side and so what I do is I recognize that in this case if I'm going to tell it I have to find all those small details to reassure the audience that oh this is real this definitely happened but I don't need to tell you that I'm adding those little bits of just normal human life and thoughts that remind you without you even realizing it oh this happened that's not part of the story of course this happened I'm going to see what happens next you don't realize that like none of this happened but I have to make it authentic playing with the chronological order of events as well I imagine is something that you have to do and also this uh purposeful omission of certain details yeah actually a good example of that purposeful Omission would be take a a crime a murder let's say there's a pretty good chance that the person who commits the murder is going to do something to get people to not think it's them they're going to lie they're going to they're going to misrepresent what happened if if you know if people are asking questions they're not going to be like oh I did it some people do but a lot of people don't they're going to try to protect them M themselves with lies we'll tell a story where we will take the perspective of let's say the killer but I haven't told you it's the killer I'm I'm just introducing this person into the story and I'm using their perspective and if their perspective includes absolute lies but they're selling it as truth and you don't know that the're killer and you don't know they're lying I can I can very honestly tell you something that this person said that was a lie but I can tell it to you as truth because I'm you you know I'm inhabiting that person's perspective so yes it's a lie but in the the framework of that story if I'm saying so and so said this thing and here's how they said it and do this person and here you know here's the outcome of that that what they said it's not a lie it winds up being a lie but if I'm telling it from their perspective it allows me to mislead you but using real things that happened that's a very powerful tool for the podcast which is mostly True Crime where we're looking to find perspectives that allow us to basically lie but using someone real lie that was part of the story that makes sense in other news this episode is brought to you by element you have heard me talking about element an awful lot over the last few months and that's because I start my day every single morning with it you might not be tired you might not need more caffeine you might just be dehydrated an element contains a science packed electrolyte ratio of sodium potassium and magnesium that helps to curb Cravings regulate your appetite and improve your brain function stop 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