Store, Carry, Forward: The Networking Genius of Pigeons - EMF 2026
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Holly presents pigeons not merely as common urban birds but as a brilliant, albeit often overlooked, method for moving information around the globe. She begins by establishing their historical significance and biological capabilities, noting that while they average 50 miles per hour over long distances, they can reach speeds of up to 90 miles per hour in bursts. This speed allows them to cover vast distances, such as the route between Paris and London, in just a few hours, offering a latency advantage over traditional transport methods like horses or boats, which could take days or weeks. Holly frames the pigeon as a network entity by analyzing its hardware, software, bandwidth, and reliability, highlighting that despite inherent asymmetries where they only know one way home, their utility was proven during the Siege of Paris in 1870 when they successfully relayed critical information back to the outside world using hot air balloons.
The technical analysis of the pigeon network reveals fascinating details about its "software" and limitations. Pigeons navigate using a combination of magnetic fields, landmarks, and sun position, requiring roughly four weeks of training to find their way home and eight to ten weeks to become fully functional messengers. Holly references B.F. Skinner's experiments with pigeons, including his ambitious but ultimately unfunded proposal to use them as organic computers to steer missiles during World War II, illustrating the potential for upgrading pigeon "software" through behavioral conditioning. Regarding bandwidth, historical examples show that pigeons have successfully carried data loads comparable to early internet connections, even beating YouTube uploads in specific tests, though their capacity is currently limited by the weight of the media they can carry rather than biological constraints.
However, the reliability of this avian network faces challenges such as predation by hawks, getting lost, and significant human error, which Holly humorously references through the concept of "packet loss." She cites a 2000 Linux group experiment where only two out of six pigeons successfully delivered their payload due to handlers accidentally letting others escape, emphasizing that humans remain the primary variable in the system's success. Despite these issues and modern concerns like pigeon doping in racing, Holly argues that analog communication remains vital for combat scenarios, rural communities, and situations where digital infrastructure fails. She concludes by urging the audience to support her campaign to integrate pigeons into future networks, jokingly suggesting solutions like briefing pigeons with other pigeons to reduce human error, while acknowledging that there will always be times when this unique form of communication is essential.
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Hello everyone. Thank you for having me.
Uh, I'm Holly and I'm going to be
talking to you today about why I
personally think pigeons are a brilliant
way of moving information around. Um, so
two things. One, I know in the
description for today's talk, I did
promise puns. Uh, it does turn out with
four weeks turnaround, it's quite hard
to write a lot of very pigeon specific
puns. Um, so some of them are just going
to be kind of generally about birds, so
do forgive me, please. Uh, and number
two, with a lot of technical talks, so I
know people quite often dive straight
into the technical detail. I wanted to
make sure I'm not losing anyone in this
talk. I know it's quite a technical
topic. So, uh, we're just going to start
with a very quick introduction.
Thank you. Okay. So, um I can't see you
guys that well because of the lights.
So, I'm going to have to ask for a small
amount of audience participation through
the medium of yelling. Um so, we're just
going to do a couple of quickfire
questions calibrate the information in
the room. So, can by the medium of
yelling, can you let me know, have you
ever seen a pigeon before?
>> Thank you for going with this. Uh so, I
think probably most people when they
think of pigeons thinking of the image
on screen. Um, so all these photos are
taken my friend by my friend who works
for the zoo as a researcher. So when I
text him saying I'm giving a talk about
pigeons, he said, "Can I send you the 25
pictures of pigeons that are currently
on my phone?" Uh, so this is one of
them. This is another one of them. And
this is another one of them. Uh, which I
thought was particularly fierce. Uh, so
we know what pigeons look like. Uh, who
has seen a pigeon's nest before?
Nice. Okay. So, if you spend a lot of
time on the kinds of websites that I do,
uh there are lots of jokes about the
rubbish nature of uh pigeon nests, they
generally tend to look a bit like this.
However, in defense of pigeons, they
have largely evolved to nest on cliffs.
And so, uh mostly those twigs are just
there to stop the the eggs from rolling
off a ledge. Uh so to be fair to them,
if they're nesting in human terms, uh in
human environment, maybe, you know, they
they haven't quite caught up in terms of
architectural brief. Uh so then we're
going to do a couple of quick true false
statements. So again, I'm just going to
ask you to yell in some way if you think
these statements are true, and we are
going to whip through them. Uh pigeons
fly around 15 miles an hour.
>> A bit. Okay. Uh so actually they can fly
up to about 90 miles an hour. Uh
although they do average about 50 over
long distances, but pretty good I would
say. Uh next statement. So there's two
of three. Uh the Victorians domesticated
pigeons. Yell if you think that might be
true.
Oh, I'm getting some people yelling
false, which is helpful. Uh so I've got
a better picture. Uh so in fact, people
probably have been domestic pigeon
domesticating pigeons since the ancient
Egyptian times. Uh this is a mosaic from
uh an ancient Egyptian building that was
excavated. It's in a lot of detail which
suggests that probably the Egyptians
were quite familiar with pigeons. Um,
and the third one, third and final
statement. So, give me a yell if you
think it's true. The most expensive race
racing pigeon ever to be sold was worth
£10,000.
False. Lovely. Uh, this pigeon is worth
1.3 million.
[laughter] Uh there was an auction in
2020 and New Kim uh was sold to a
Chinese buyer for uh yeah 1.3 million
pounds. Uh uh please let me know anybody
if I'm I'm clipping the mic by accident.
Apologies. Um yeah, so there is a lot of
money in pigeon racing. Uh and racing
pigeons tend to be the same kinds of
pigeons that you might use to send
information. So that was why I just kind
of wanted to bring that up.
Uh so um pigeons have been used as
messengers basically for as long as
humans have wanted to send messages. Um
there are references to pigeon messages
uh messengers in biblical times. We know
the Greeks in the 8th century were using
pigeons to send the results of the
Olympic games down from Mount Olympus.
Uh we think Genghaskhan was probably
using pigeons to send relay post
messages through the empire. Uh and like
I say Egyptians also loved a pigeon. Uh
the details on the paintings are so good
that there's about six species that they
actually think they can probably
identify quite uh specifically because
they were using them so much. Um and to
get some idea of why pigeons have been
so important to us, I think you have to
have a bit of a sense of what they were
competing against in the past. Uh so the
main reason that we have used pigeons so
much is pigeons are quite fast. Uh as I
mentioned, so like I say, on average
they can travel for around 50 miles an
hour. uh better in favorable conditions
and they can fly up to 500 miles in a
single flight. So if you think about
trying to sign send a message from Paris
to London for example uh you could do
that in about three and a half hours
with a pigeon uh which is pretty good uh
by comparison it depends how you kind of
exactly combine these methods of
transport but if you combine feet and
horses and boats it's somewhere between
24 hours uh and a couple of weeks. So
pigeon has just been sort of
technologically one of the better
options available to us for a very long
time particularly when there's water in
the way. So when we talk about the time
taken to get a message from London to
Paris in this case we are talking about
the latency of a pigeon. Uh and that is
useful because latency gives us a way of
measuring the effectiveness of pigeons
as a network and arguably for comparing
them to other kinds of uh networks and
ways of moving information around. So I
was trying to have a bit of a think
about how else we might be able to
describe and measure a pigeon network.
And I came up with these criteria. So we
are going to think about the latency,
the hardware, the software, the
bandwidth and the reliability of a
pigeon. Uh so for anybody who is not
familiar with these highly technical
terms, uh latency is the time between
sending and receiving a piece of
information by my definition. Uh we've
got hardware requirements. So what
physical things you need to use a pigeon
and the software requirements which for
me in this case is the pigeon's brain.
We've got bandwidth. So how much
information can any one pigeon carry?
And we've got reliability. So what are
the chances if you send something by
pigeon that it will actually get there
at the other end. So again using my
highly technical framework we are going
to say that the latency of a pigeon is
okay. [laughter]
Sorry I make myself laugh. It's really
embarrassing. Um so let's look at
hardware. So uh obviously you can't talk
about the hardware needs of a pigeon
without talking about the great siege of
Paris in 1870.
Uh so when the we think about this sort
of hardware requirement for a pigeon.
The difficulty is obviously that pigeons
are inherently asymmetric. So pigeons if
you using them to send messages can only
really go one way. They only have one
definition of home. You can kind of take
them wherever you want within reason but
they'll always deliver the message to
the same place. However, there have been
times when that's not been a massive
issue. And it really does depend what it
is you're trying to do. So if you wanted
to send an email and you had to ship the
routter first, not great. Like I say,
the great siege of Paris of 1870.
Uh so at this point, for some reason,
Paris has been sieged a lot of times,
like a startling number of times. Like I
say, I'm talking about 1870 here. So it
lasted for around 4 months. Uh which is
a long time. And I don't want to make
light of that. Being in the siege in
Paris was awful. It was going into
winter. Um to give you some sense of how
important uh pigeons might have been, uh
it got as far as people were eating
animals out of the zoo. Um people were
very cold. They were becoming unwell.
But still people preserve the pigeons.
And the reason for that is because what
they managed to do was to use hot air
balloons to get information out of
Paris. And if you're getting things out
of Paris, you can send a pigeon. And so
what ended up happening was they were
sending uh these hot air balloons
outside of Paris stacked up with pigeons
which could then be loaded up with
information on what was happening in the
rest of the world and they would home
their way back and bring that
information back. So when that first
started it was really kind of very
important military information. The
nature of humans does mean that the
minute you're able to send a message,
people fill it with gossip. Uh so they
reckon that probably around 100,000
messages were sent by pigeons uh over
the course of that four months. Uh it
got to the point where you could buy a
special stamp so that you could send the
information back. Uh and they were using
microfish and things like that. So they
were really finding ways to try and
condense as much information as possible
onto these pigeons. Um it was quite high
stakes. Uh there was I think at least
one pigeon handler who overstated the
ability of his pigeons. uh and that
information did not make it back and it
fell into enemy hands. Uh and that
person I think was prosecuted.
Um but it was really like I say it was
really effective in this case. The
asymmetry didn't wasn't a problem.
Didn't uh work against them. Um people
were like I say very familiar very
quickly and it was actually such a kind
of big part of that uh experience for
people that there was eventually a
statue made of uh that was in the center
of Paris a sort of statue of hot air
balloon surrounded by pigeons which
unfortunately was later melted down for
scrap. Um but I thought it was pretty
cool. Uh and yes so in this particular
case their abilities were excellent.
Thank you. [laughter] Uh but going back
to my framework uh I guess the nature of
kind of not working in every situation
we're going to say it's also okay.
Uh so software uh I briefly wanted to
talk here about the pigeon brain. I'm
not going to get into great detail. I'm
not a pigeon scientist or a biologist.
Um again I have chatted to my friend who
works with birds. Uh and generally it
seems like pigeons probably find their
way around uh a combination of uh
magnetic fields. though potentially iron
moving from the liver uh landmarks uh
and the position of the sun. It takes
about four weeks to teach a pigeon where
home is and about 8 to 10 weeks for it
to be a fully functional messenger
pigeon. So kind of in terms of software
development times, not bad. Uh it really
only costs bird seed and somewhere to
put the pigeon. Um but I guess the
reason I also bring this up is because
the nature of software is people always
want to upgrade it. Uh so I wanted to
mention at this point BF Skinner. Um,
has anybody heard of BF Skinner before?
>> Nice. I love BF Skinner. I'm fascinated
by him. I think if you made him as a
Dungeons and Dragons character, he'd
probably been Artificer. He just made
stuff. Anything he could lay his hands
on, he made stuff, including something
called the air crib, which I do not have
time to get into today, but was a fully
automated baby crib, and I highly
recommend googling it after this talk.
Um, but he also made something called
the operant conditioning uh box, which
also is sometimes referred to as a
Skinner box. And he used uh these
Skinner boxes with pigeons to
demonstrate various behavioral habits.
So being able to teach things teach
different kinds of animals to respond to
a stimulus. Uh he was in the same kind
of school of of thinking as people like
Pavlov.
Um yeah, I would also say actually yeah
a lot of what we read about Skinner is
about behavioral science, but I actually
do think he just wanted more reasons to
work with pigeons. Um, so the reason I
bring this up because Pitch Skinner
really came into his own around World
War II. Um, he had a lot of ideas and
one of the ones I wanted to mention
today was he designed something and
started to test it where you could uh
actually put three pigeons into the nose
cone of a pelican bomb uh and it would
be able to steer it. So this thing or
the organic uh computer uh was able to
potentially be completely human-free uh
and the pigeons would peck the screen of
a camera obscurer to to keep it on
track. Uh he was very disappointed
because the military didn't really buy
into it. Uh and he said that the real
failing here was actually human
imagination. Um which I I also support.
Um but he could not get the funding to
continue it. the missile was never uh
tested and eventually the whole
department was very quietly uh closed
down. But there are some amazing p
pictures of people just feeding pigeons
into prototypes of missiles which I
particularly enjoyed. So I think he did
demonstrate that if you are careful
about the way that you do it, you could
maybe upgrade the software, but you're
probably going to have to have some kind
of subscription service that's going to
keep it up to date and is also often
single use in this particular case. Um
so for that purpose also software. Okay.
Um, bandwidth I'm going to go through
fairly quickly. So, bandwidth being how
much information a single pigeon can
move. Um, and the main thing I'm going
to say here is that lots of people have
tried lots of things. I'm just going to
give you a couple of very brief
examples. So, in 2004, three pigeons
carried 4 GB of data at a rate equaling
2.2 megabits per second, which in 2004
was not bad. Uh, in 2009, a TV station
tested how much information you could
send with a pigeon, and it beat a car
and an internet connection. Uh, and in
2010, the BBC sent a video from
Lincolnshire to Yorkshire. I kind of
wanted the joke to be full stop, no
mention of pigeons on that last one. Um,
weak joke. Um, but that one was a video
of a video of the presenter getting his
hair cut. And again, uh, it the pigeon
did beat the upload to YouTube. YouTube
at the time I think the upload rate was
quite slow. Uh after four hours it had
failed twice I think uh and the pigeon
was very safely in Yorkshire. So I think
the scalability here is the pigeon is
limited again by human uh development in
terms of what kinds of uh media it's
able to carry up to a sort of weight
limit. So we've got bandwidth. Okay. The
final one is reliability. Um so how
reliable is a pigeon? So, I mean,
pigeons have quite a lot of issues even
when they're not acting as messengers.
But the other thing about that is that
they're quite good at dealing with that
by themselves. So, one of the most
common things is packet loss. The packet
being the pigeon and the loss being a
hawk. Uh, they do quite often get eaten
by hawks. Uh, they can get lost, they
can get tired, uh, they can lose things
on the way. Um, a lot of what they
actually do to survive a lot of these
hazards is flocking. So, if you have a
big group of pigeons like this, chances
are uh it'll be difficult for a predator
to sort of lock onto any individual
pigeon. So, their odds are better. And
if they really feel like something bad
is happening, they're quite good at
spotting bad news on the horizon. And
they will dive. They can move very
quickly as we've established. So, they
will try and dive out of the way. The
third reason that pigeons are often not
reliable is once again human error. Uh
and to be fair to the pigeons, there's
not much they can do about that. And I
just very kind of again briefly wanted
to touch on uh IP over aven carrier. uh
RFC I think 1149 done by by David
Whitesman. So in 1990 for April Fool's
Day he wrote an RFC describing a
pigeon's piece of hardware and I cannot
lie I have drawn heavily on it for this
talk. Um I just thought it was great uh
this sort of description of all the
different variables. Um but when I
started to dig into it what I liked more
was the fact that actually people have
tried it. Um, so in 2000, in the early
2000s, the Linux group in Bergen managed
to talk some local pigeon fences into
working with them and they tested it
with six pigeons and it is great. There
are loads of photos online. I highly
recommend you look them up. Uh, so here
is a picture of someone holding a
pigeon. Here is also another picture of
someone holding a pigeon. Um, but the uh
the loss here, the reliability, it was
about 55%. But the issue was that people
were so excited by having these pigeons
that they accidentally let a few of them
escape whilst they weren't carrying
anything. Uh so out of the six that
arrived, only four of them had
information, but none of it was the
fault of the pigeons. Uh so
unfortunately at the moment, it's quite
often very difficult to do anything
without humans being involved in the
process. So human errors does still have
to be factored in. Here's another
picture. Um I just liked it. Um but for
that reason, I'm going to say once
again, reliability is okay. Uh, and
outside of this framework, like I say,
humans do love to innovate. And so there
are lots of other examples of what
people have done working with pigeons to
try and kind of improve what they're
able to do. Something to factor in,
pigeon doping is now an issue. Uh, if
you look at, uh, pigeon racing, like I
say at the beginning, there's a lot of
money in it. Uh, so for that reason,
people are very often trying to make
their pigeons be the fastest. Uh,
pigeons have really broken through into
pop culture. This is a pigeon in Drag
Race France. Um, Hatful Boyfriend has
worked with pigeons so that they can
appear as a human man in order to better
find love. Uh, but also Maiden Form. So,
Maiden Form is an underwear company and
in the war uh in Second World War I, I
think uh they also developed harnesses
for pigeons so that they could better
take part in combat. Uh, and then it's
been sort of uh reverted through the
years as an example of where they've
kind of been very good patriots, etc.
Uh, and with the phrase there's a maiden
form for every form. Uh, and possibly
also to help the pigeons find love. Um,
but here is a a picture of a pigeon in a
harness attached to a soldier.
So, if we were going to try and improve
this rating and go from okay on all
fronts, uh, I feel like the problem at
the moment, I've said that pigeons are
brilliant. Uh, but I think it would be
fair to say I've made it look like
pigeons are distinctly mid. Um, which is
a shame and possibly on me. Um, but I
have had a little bit of a think of what
we could do. So, in order to improve
their latency, we could dope the
pigeons.
to improve their hardware. We could
potentially put them in a small aircraft
and teach them to fly it, giving them
good hardware. I had a long think about
how to improve pigeon software and all I
could come up with is doping them again.
Um, but bandwidth wise, lots of options
now. I think you could attach all kinds
of storage and particularly if they are
flying a light aircraft, that would
really open up the possibilities. Uh,
increasing the bandwidth to also good
and reliability. Like I say, humans are
very often the problem. So, I think in
this case, I would have the pigeons
briefed by other pigeons. I think that
would probably solve that one. Uh, and
this is where my call to actions, all
good talks are, uh, which is add pigeons
to EMFX, you cowards. Uh, this is my
campaign to add pigeons into the network
for 2028. Um,
thank you. But obviously, I am joking,
but also I'm close to time, so I'm going
to keep this brief, but there are always
going to be times when analog
communication is still really important.
And there are still people even today
who need pigeons, other equivalent kind
of sneaker nets for different reasons. A
lot of them are combat, but not only
that, people in living in re um people
living in rural communities, potentially
some other places around the world. Uh
and sometimes just because it's nice. Um
but I feel like having spent a lot of
time writing this talk and talking to
people, I think there is prospect here.
So I do urge you to put yourself behind
this campaign. Um and finally, I know I
did promise puns. Um, so I am sorry that
there weren't as many as maybe you
hoped, but of course there is such thing
as too much of a good thing. Thank you
very much. [applause]