STEPHEN A. SMITH ACCEPTS MY INVITATION! @MrStephenASmith | CAN HARDLY WAIT!
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Franko introduces himself as a Christian pastor who has been following the career of host Steve for some time before launching into his primary concern regarding political affiliation. He notes that while Steve identifies as an independent voter, he frequently votes Democrat and wonders if this contradicts biblical principles given Steve's stated faith in Christ. Franko questions whether either major party truly represents a biblical worldview or if voters should be choosing the lesser of two evils based on policy platforms rather than personal identity alone.
Steve firmly rejects the premise that voting decisions must align strictly with one specific political ideology to satisfy religious standards, arguing instead that most people vote based on singular issues that matter most to them personally. He explains his own focus is entirely on economic stability, believing that when citizens have more to lose financially and socially, they tend to conduct themselves better within society compared to those who feel nothing at stake. Steve illustrates this point by mentioning acquaintances willing to sacrifice significant portions of their income for universal healthcare or prioritizing border security over other concerns, suggesting these individual priorities naturally dictate voting behavior regardless of party label.
The conversation shifts when Franko insists that the Bible should be the ultimate standard for all decisions made in the voting booth since Christians profess faith in God's word. Steve responds by stating there is no time to debate this philosophical point further and instead offers a practical example from recent history where many Republicans voted against Donald Trump despite policy disagreements because of the chaos, riots, racial tensions, and lingering effects of COVID-19 that plagued the country during his presidency. He emphasizes that real-world circumstances often force voters away from their usual preferences when faced with societal instability or threats to peace.
Despite Franko's initial reservations about Steve's political leanings potentially conflicting with Christian values, both parties agree on a path forward for continued dialogue and mutual understanding. When asked if he would be open to appearing on Franko's podcast to discuss these topics in greater depth, Steve enthusiastically accepts the invitation without hesitation. The interaction concludes warmly as producers arrange contact details between their teams so that future conversations can take place outside of this brief interview setting where time constraints prevented a full theological exploration.
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Franko, is that your name?
>> Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
>> How are you? How you doing?
>> Good.
Thank you. Thank you, Steve, for having
me on. I really appreciate you, man.
I've been listening to your your show
and also watching and following your
career for for quite some time. And and
and I want to just wanted to say first
and foremost I'm I'm a Christian pastor
and I have my own podcast and things of
that nature that I address issues like
you that you have stated but from a
biblical perspective. What you what you
just prompted me to to reach out to you
and to ask you some questions because
one of the things that you had stated at
the beginning of your of your show was
that you were actually not at the
beginning but near near the middle part
of your show before your your hour
break. You had mentioned that you are
devoted to the to the Democrat party.
You you basically vote Democrat although
you are independent. And I believe that
there that's that's a concern that I
have regarding your position and I
wanted to ask you, if you don't mind,
cuz I know you talk about church
sometimes as well, too. Are you a
Christian, sir?
>> Yes, I am.
>> Okay. And so if if that's being the case
then this is another concern that I have
because I'm trying to understand the
difference of you being an independent
voter. I believe you're an independent
thinker but I believe you may think
think that you're an independent voter
but you vote Democrat. So I would
probably say, respectfully, that you're
not really an independent voter if
you're if you're mainly voting Democrat
based on what you had said. And so I
guess I want to ask you biblically what
if you look at both parties, right?
Their their their positions and their
party platforms,
which party leans or represents a
biblical worldview?
>> Well, let me say this to you. Let me
stop you right there.
>> Yes, sir.
>> That's not a fair question. I'm going to
tell you why it's not a fair question.
Because if you consider neither party to
fall under that ilk and you believe
you're picking what you deem to be the
lesser of two evils, that could be one
of the reasons why you do that.
Secondly, most people vote about issues
pertaining to one issue. You have some
people who are pro-choice. You have some
people who are about pro-immigration,
you know, making sure that our borders
are secure and stuff like that. You have
some people who focus more on national
security. You have some people who are
fixated on healthcare. You have others
that are fixated on the economy and
stuff like that. And so, there's an
there's an ordinate amount of issues
that are out there, but really as
voters, we focus on the one thing that
matters to us most. Me, I'm about the
economy. And so, what when I think about
my mentality is that the more folks
have,
the more they have to lose. And as a
result of having a lot to lose, you
conduct yourself from a societal
perspective a little bit better, if not
a lot better, because you have something
to lose as opposed to nothing to lose at
all. Now, that's me. I've known people
that have voted because they're
pro-choice. I know other people who are
fixated on the border. I know other
people I've known friends of mine who
sat up there and said, "I'm willing to
give up 75% of my salary if everybody in
America can have healthcare." And that
determines how they're going to vote.
So, I don't think that's a fair
question.
>> Well,
and I I respectfully I respect your your
position, but I I would I would
respectfully disagree and push back on
that because I'm not talking about I'm
not talking about personalities. I'm
talking about policy, right? I believe
as a Christian So, I believe as
Christians, if if you're professing
Christian and and and I am, then should
not the word of God be the standard by
which we are to make our decisions even
in the voting booth? Would you agree
with that position?
>> No.
>> No? But why and why and why not?
>> where we are as a society,
where we're aiming to go, and what it's
going to take to minimize the chaos. For
example, when Trump was in office in
2020, not to throw shade on him or
anything like that, right?
>> I voted for him, though.
>> You had an abundance of people who were
Republican that voted against him
because the chaos that existed in the
country was too much to take. So,
because of that, they went against that
to vote against him because even though
they may have agreed from a policy
perspective with some of the positions
that he took, it was too much for them
to deal with as citizens in this country
because the streets were devoid of
peace. There were riots, there was
racial tension, there was all of this
other stuff going on, not to mention
COVID or you know, the residue of COVID.
So, all of those things played a role in
them going up against the fabric of what
they normally feel when they went to the
voting booth. People make those
decisions all the time.
>> But I think and I think that's
>> as It's not as cut and dry as you're
trying to say.
I don't have time to have this
discussion.
>> No, I I I understand that. And I want I
wanted to just ask one more No, no, no
problem. I just wanted to ask one more
question.
>> but this is not a discussion that I
would run from one bit.
>> Okay, and and and I appreciate that. So,
if you don't mind if if Is there Is
there a way for me to reach out to you?
Maybe we can have a conversation or
maybe I'm not sure if I could invite you
on my podcast to to to discuss these
>> happily I would I'm I don't have a
problem coming on your podcast.
>> appreciate that, sir. How would I How
would I How would I make that happen?
How could we make that happen?
>> The producer will take your information
and my team will get in contact with
you. I'm not running from that at
>> no, and and I appreciate that, sir.
Thank you very much, Stephen. I really
appreciate your time. Thank you, sir.
>> Take care. No problem.