Video summary
The video explores the dynamics of dysfunctional families, identifying three primary types: the indifferent family, where children face neglect and may develop parentified roles or borderline behaviors; the pseudo-mutual family, which maintains a superficial harmony by suppressing conflict and authentic emotion to create a rigid, cult-like facade; and the pseudo-hostile family, characterized by constant bickering used as a defense mechanism to avoid deeper emotional engagement. These environments operate on fixed expectations where any deviation triggers disproportionate punishment, often employing a process called "mystification" in which parents coerce children into accepting an imposed reality under the guise of love. This manipulation forces the child to internalize abuse and lose their sense of self through three distinct phases: attribution, where the parent defines the child's state; invalidation, where attempts at individuation are mocked or threatened; and induction, where the child surrenders their will to conform.
Underlying these family structures is René Girard's theory of mimetic desire, which suggests that human desire is imitated rather than autonomous. In narcissistic households, authentic desire is suppressed in favor of mimetic desire, leading to intense rivalry over scarce resources like parental approval and inevitably escalating into violence. To prevent the family unit from imploding under this pressure, a "scapegoat mechanism" is activated, uniting the members against a marginalized individual, often a child, to restore peace and stability. This dynamic aligns with the concept of "ambient sacrificing," where an individual assumes a scapegoat role, having their interests, dreams, and hopes constantly suppressed, mocked, and humiliated while their suffering is viewed as necessary for the group's cohesion.
The video further explains that this sacrificial mechanism functions as an implicit part of the social contract within narcissistic families and broader societies, where participants justify persecuting the innocent by inventing narratives that frame them as protectors or punishers. Outsiders, outcasts, and controversial figures naturally become targets because they lack social protection, a practice rooted in historical rituals designed to redirect aggression toward an external target to restore political stability and provide a sense of purification. While modern postmodern societies have substituted physical sacrifice with symbolic acts such as incarceration, cancel culture, moral panics, and the dredging up of false memories, the underlying function remains the same: reducing collective anxiety by casting perpetrators as victims who victimize everyone else.
Ultimately, the discussion connects these familial dynamics to foundational societal structures, noting that while Freud identified primordial sacrifice as the basis of society, Girard expanded this view to show how communities release tension by sacrificing a scapegoat. This process is regularized through legal means and tools like judicial systems and psychiatry, which serve as instruments of social control to discipline those deemed outside the norm. The conclusion emphasizes that these dynamics are prevalent in narcissistic families where power asymmetries and rigid structures prevent healthy development, fostering long-term psychological pathology that mirrors the broader societal patterns of tension release through the persecution of the vulnerable.
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There are three types of dysfunctional
families.
There's the indifferent family. The
family where the children are abandoned,
neglected, the parents are absent,
self-p preoccupied,
depressed,
selfish, fearful, anxious,
etc., etc. Andre Green called it the
dead mother. By extension, we could say
the dead parents. The parents who are
not there, the children are left to fend
for themselves on their own. Some of
them get parentified.
They become the parents of the family
and some of them get disregulated. They
develop borderline behaviors, anxiety,
depression. They become reckless. They
act out.
The indifferent family is the topic of
another video. Today I'm going going to
discuss two other types of dysfunctional
families. The pseudo mutual family and
the pseudo hostile family. You heard it
here for the first time. My name is Sam
Bakin and I'm the author of malignant
self- loveve narcissism revisited. I'm
the pseudo mutual and pseudo hostile or
actually not pseudo the hostile blue
professor of psychology
and let's delve and dive right in.
Sometimes you see in clinical practice
or in reality families which constantly
bicker and argue and fight with each
other. They're very vocal.
Nothing's wrong with that. Fighting
indicates an emotional investment.
People who stop fighting are no longer
interested in each other. They no longer
believe that change is possible.
And so
uh fighting in itself is not a bad sign,
not a bad clinical sign, but sometimes
the fighting is superficial
about trivial and tangential and fringe
issues. The fighting is actually a
symptom of a power play or a mind game
taking place in this kind of family. Can
all collectives, families included, go
insane? Of course. I actually um 20
something years ago suggested that
entire collectives can become
narcissistic. And so today we will be
dealing with varants of narcissistic
personalities. The first one of which is
the artificially bickering family in
clinical terms the pseudo hostile
family. The other type of family is
exactly the opposite. This is the
picture perfect family. The family with
no fault where everyone loves everyone
else unconditionally totally and
unreservedly where there's no word of
argument. There's never a disagreement.
the whole thing flows smoothly as if it
were a cult. And this cult-like setting
of this type of dysfunctional family is
the pseudo mutual family. So pseudo
hostility is involves frequent arguing
and bickering in order to avoid deeper
emotions, deeper feelings, in order to
avoid going deep. Pseudo mutuality
involves no disagreements and no
conflict at least not overt conflict
because there are no separate identities
and there is no deeper intimacy. These
these are not allowed.
We will go a bit deeper in a minute but
in a nutshell these families are very
insidious.
Their impact on the children is
penicious and longlasting.
In the pseudo mutual family, children
learn to become cogs and wheels in a
large machine. They can't separate.
They're not allowed to individuate. They
can't have a voice. They can't they are
never authentic. They have to conform or
else. And the punishment, the punitive
aspect is passive aggressive, covert,
hidden, surreptitious.
In the other type of family, the
pseudhostile family, the punishment is
simply aggression. Aggression as a
management uh technique.
Win wy
n and his colleagues are the foremost
authorities on pseudomutual and
pseudhostile families. They use these
concepts which were coined before by
others. I will discuss the history of
these concepts a bit later in this
video. But Wayne and his colleagues,
they use this concept to describe
miscarried maladjusted solutions to the
eternal human problem of how do I retain
my identity even as I relate to other
people?
How do I distinguish myself, separate
myself even as I integrate and connect?
How do I become part of a whole while
still maintaining autonomy and agency
and self-efficacy? How do I not get
absorbed? How do I not disappear? The
eternal conundrum between engulfment and
abandonment. How do I not get abandoned
while at the same time how do I not get
enshed or engulfed or subsumed or
consumed? The pseudo hostile and the
pseudo mutual relationship
aims to fit together to bind at the
expense of the self at the expense of
object differentiation of the identities
individuation of the persons involved.
Pseudo mutuality and pseudo hostility
involve a family mythology, a narrative
of the family sustained by patterns of
behavior. And any deviation from this
agreed upon legend of origin, any
deviation from uh accepted habits which
should never be confronted or challenged
or undermined, any deviation, any
divergence, any disagreement, any hint
of rebelliousness, any form of defiance,
all these are dangerous within these
kind of families. There are fixed
expectations and if you deviate from the
from them however marginally you are
punished exponentially
there is a disproportion between offense
and defense.
The shared dread the shared anxiety the
avoidance of interfamilial conflict or
separation they generate a facade of
harmony. This is pseudo mutuality.
People within the family don't dare to
discuss certain certain themes. These
themes are taboo. They don't dare to
confront each other. They don't dare to
externalize and verbalize their needs
because this is perceived as a challenge
to the others. They don't dare to dwell
upon the shortcomings and the failings
of the family system and try to fix
them. Everything is perfect. Everything
is harmon harmonious. Nothing should
ever be doubted or questioned or
challenged. The fear of intimacy and
closeness generate either persistent
zombie-like state where everyone
functioned as robots.
Androids
lacking in effect or overt effect.
There is what we call reduced effect
display
and this is in the pseudo mutual family
or constant fighting and bickering and
argumentation without genuine
separation. This is argumentation and
bickering between units of the same
multi-headed entity the family and this
would be the pseudo hostility. The
American Psychological Association
dictionary, APA dictionary, defines
pseudo mutuality as a family
relationship
that has a superficial appearance of
mutual openness and understanding,
although in fact the relationship is
rigid and depersonalizing.
Family theories of schizophrenia and
other forms of major psychopathology
have identified pseudo mutuality as a
critical ideological factor.
And this idea of pseudomutuality and sud
pseudo hostility and so on is not very
new actually. If we go back to Verheim
for example in 1973 he postulated what
he called the closed system pseudo
integrative type of family in this type
of closed system could be a family could
be a nation state could be a football
club could be a church any collective of
human beings but usually this concept is
applied to families. So in this type of
closed system there is a high level of
forced um convergence forced harmony
morphosis is called everyone is frozen.
People don't dare to change to evolve to
develop and to grow because any change
is a challenge to the status quo status
quo. This is rooted in an infam
interfamilial
family uh power imbalance. There's a
power asymmetry. For example, a family
headed by a narcissist. The narcissist
would attempt to create a power
imbalance.
He would attempt to create a cult where
he is the leader. Everyone else is the
follower, obedient, obscurious, and
questioning.
Power structures within the family. when
they become asymmetrical
they create pseudomutual pseudohhostile
dynamics.
And so the term pseudo mutuality was
actually coined by win himself that I
mentioned earlier in 1958 and it refers
to an apparent stability of the family
system when there is an absence of
genuine and consensual validation by the
members of the family of each other.
There is a forced mostasis the force
forced frozen forced oified structure
and this contributes to interf family
alienation individual alienation and a
very disturbed functioning of the family
laying and other lang l a iing laying
and other um Scottish British uh
psychiatrists in the 1960s especially
they came up with a concept called
mystification.
Mystification is a transpersonal process
by which the imposing party
and
the imposing party interacts with other
members of a collective or a group and
sort of convert them into extensions.
So
um Lang said that uh
mystification is this process
by which the imposing party actively
endeavors to coersse the receptive party
often children
and they they tend to they attempt to
induce a desired state of being under
the guise of a parental or benevolent
caretaker. So the parents for example
would would pretend to be benign. They
would pretend to be loving and caring
and compassionate and affectionate and
supportive providing sakur.
But in reality the parents would be
demanding
and harshly critical
passive aggressively and implicitly or
overtly and and explicitly.
and they would demand conformity to the
tea
dotting the eyes. They would not agree
to any deviation from a very rigid
script. The children would be the
recipients of this.
It is this discrepancy
between appearances and substance that
creates the pathology in the child. The
child is unable to reconcile reality
with what he perceives to be the
psychonamic of the situation. The child
is like a seismograph. He picks up on
the parents, for example, displeasure.
He realizes that abuse is forthcoming.
He's terrified of being beaten or being
chastised. The child is in a constant
state of fear and anxiety. But he's
unable to explain to himself. The child
cannot explain to himself. Why is he
being anxious? Why is he being
depressed? Why is he so fearful all the
time? Because the parents pose act as
the best parents ever. A thespian
endeavor. And this is what Lane call um
mystification. The child is mystified.
The receptive party is meant to feel as
though the subjugating party has
unilaterally defined his or her state of
being, determined it as the sole and
correct state, and removed any
possibility for self assertion or
individuation, says one of the
encyclopedias I consulted.
In the words of Lane, this results in a
radical failure to recognize one's own
self-perception and selfidentity. Put
differently, this prevents separation
individuation. This subtle messaging,
this signaling that goes on, atmospheric
ambient signaling in including efforts
at gaslighting.
All this create a hallucinatory
delusional
space where the child wanders in awe, in
desperation,
in terror and in misapprehension and
miscomprehension
and the child can't emerge from this
space because there's no adult to extend
a hand. The child actually is drowning
in this space. These are the echological
roots. These are the psych psychological
roots of later life disregulation and
liability.
And so
Lang was the first to kind of
flesh out, shall we say, the concept of
of um pseudomituality
in his work on mystification. Barnard
and Kales
um expounded on the work of Lei. They
said that mystification is a
reciprocating system. In other words,
it's both an act of mystification and a
state of mystification which is the
outcome of the act of mystification.
What they were trying to say is that
mystification is an active process. It
is not necessarily premeditated. It's
not necessarily malevolent, but it's an
active process. active background
process if you wish as I said it's
messaging it's signaling and this
creates a state of mystification and
they distinguish three phases the first
is attribution the role or the state of
being is attributed to an individual
which is functional and beneficial to
the attributor child and parent
says the parents is beneficial to me I
need the parent I cannot survive without
the parent therefore For the parent is
all good and my state of being depend
depends on the parent. And you know what
the child is right until a certain age.
If the parent were to ignore the child,
not see the child, the child would die.
The parent has an inordinate power over
the life and the being of the child. So
it's it's a fair and realistic
assessment. The attribution phase. The
second phase is invalidation.
The self assertion, the identity or the
state of being of the individual, for
example, the child is rendered invalid,
incorrect or moot in deference to the
imposition from the attributor. Whenever
the child tries to separate, whenever
the child child tries to individuate,
whenever the child expresses an opinion,
disagrees with something, demands
something, the attri the the the party
that is the imposer, the imposing party,
the parent in this case, doesn't allow
it, invalidates it, mocks the child,
threatens the child, coerces the child
into actions which defy the child's
promulgations.
So the parent manipulates the child in a
variety of ways, coercive and
non-coercive.
Manipulates the child to renounce
himself or herself. The child has to
renounce itself. It reminds me of the
show trials. The show trials in Soviet
Russia when defendants had to get up and
say, "Yes, I'm an enemy of the people.
What I've done is horrible. I deserve to
die." They had to renounce themselves.
And the third phase according to Corales
and and allies the third phase is
induction by which the reality and
prominence of the imposed state
this imposed state of being has actively
supplanted the will and the self-concept
of the inductee of the individual. In
other words, the induction phase is when
the child succumbs. The child gives up
depleted, fearful,
um hopeless and helpless, learned
helplessness. Child says, "Okay, enough.
I accept your view of reality, my
mother. I accept the way you believe the
world is structured, my father. And more
importantly, I accept the way you see
me. I'm going now to mold myself to
shape myself to conform to the way you
see me. I'm not going to have a
selfconcept. I'm going to have your
concept for a self. I'm going to adopt
your concept as myself. And I'm not
going to dwell on what is real and what
is not and what is will and what is not.
I'm not going to have a will. I'm not
going to have a vition. I'm going to
become your instrument, your extension,
your tool, a projection of your minds.
I'm going to disappear. In other way, in
other words, this is mental suicide. And
in this way, mystification is very very
similar to pseudo mutuality
because it is a process by which
individual identities or psychological
states are denied in favor of a false
imposed sense of oneness of harmony of
togetherness
of a cult like we against everyone else,
we against the world.
Sudomituality is seen in families with
high emotional expression and cognitive
binding.
Uh and there there's a similar concept
to mystification and and to
pseudomituality and it's the double bind
I think first suggested by Bateson if
I'm not mistaken. The double bind is a
forced situational or emotional contract
by which the disempowered individual,
for example, a child feels that no
matter which option they take, they will
lose. There's no good option, no good
outcome. It's a lose-lose situation.
Mystification and double binds share the
control dynamic of a predetermined and
constrained reality. Mystification
however is distinct in in that it
coerces the child to believe the imposed
truth are for his or her benefit. This
is the virulence and the insidiousness
of the message.
The parent is broadcasting.
I am doing this for your own good. I
love you. That's I that is why I will
never allow you to become you. You are
such a bad object. You're so inadequate.
You're so helpless. You're so deficient
that to allow you to become you is to
hate you. And I love you. So I will
never let you go. I will never let you
separate and individually because you
will never cope with life or with
reality. You need me for the rest of
your life on earth otherwise you will
never survive.
And so pseudo mutuality in
family systems.
Lyman win I mentioned him 1958 1963.
They examined this. They examined the
contribution of family relatedness and
communication in the development of
serious mental illness such as
schizophrenia.
They never come up with a single theory.
I'm not saying that there's a theory
that you know could somehow
um supplant our current understanding of
families and modeling and so on but
still it's a very interesting concept.
It concern because pseudo mutuality
is about authenticity
and it's about authenticity not only in
human relationships. It poses the
question, how much do we sacrifice just
in order to be with others?
How much do we deny ourselves? How much
do we agree to disappear? How much do we
modify ourselves? How much do we consent
to not be us just in order not to be
abandoned?
W and his colleagues sought to
understand the particular patterns of
inauthenticity
that seem to be present in many
families.
And during this investigation that they
found that these families often deal
with emotions within the family,
positive emotions and negative emotions.
But they do this in inauthentic ways.
These are fake dynamics or let me put it
differently. These are dynamics which
are founded on fakery, founded on
feigning, on pretending, on acting, on
lying, on deceiving and on cheating. I
refer you to work by Goldenberg and
Goldenberg
2012.
They discovered distinct patterns of
communication with regard to how the
family responds to changes and
coalitions,
relational realignments,
splits in the family. How do these
family how do these families react to
disagreements? How do they react to as I
said coalitions?
Mother with son against the the against
the father, father with daughter against
the mother, children against the
parents. And so how do these families
cope? And in healthy families, in
healthy families, there's communication,
there's consensus building, there's
negotiation and compromise. Above all,
there's love and acceptance. In these
families, pseudo mutual and especially
pseudo hostile families, the families of
the narcissist, the families established
by narcissist and the families that
narcissist grew up in. In these
families, it's all about power.
It's all about prevailing.
It's all about winning. It's a form of
competition, a mind game.
In 1961, Wyn defined alignment as the
perception or experience of two or more
persons that they are joined together in
a common endeavor, interest, attitude or
set of values. Now, this of course this
coherence, this cohesion of the unit,
this collective is a positive thing and
it also creates positive dynamics. When
you're in a group with someone and you
have a common goal or common common
attitude, the same values or whatever,
you feel good about yourself and you
feel good about that other person and
you feel good about your togetherness.
These are positive things. And splits
are the opposite. That's the experience
of opposition, difference or
estrangement associated with negative
feelings. But both these dynamics occur
autonomously
in families. It's inevitable. Put three
people together and you have two
political parties. So
healthy parents
raise healthy children and healthy
parents and healthy children know how to
cope with alignments and with splits.
Pseudo mutual relationship within a
family pseudo mutual family appears to
be open, understanding,
cohesive but it is none of the above.
Pseudo mutuality is a superficial
alignment. It defend defends against
any conscious splits. It blurs the
ability to experience differences.
And the biggest difference of all is
separation, individuation.
That's why these families, pseudo mutual
families, don't allow the child to
separate and to become an individual
because that is a split, God forbid. And
splits are beyond the pale. Splits are
taboo. Splits are horrible. We should
all be one happy family forever. We
should never launder the dirty laundry
in public. We should never confide in
outsiders. Is there a better definition
of a cult? No, there isn't. This family
is a cult.
The
dysfunctional relational patterns in
such a family are maintained. They're
fixed.
And they are fixed even when the family
experiences change and growth and
dislocation and and I don't know
conflict and divergence. Even when these
families succeed mysteriously and
miraculously to develop intimacy, even
then these patterns
persist and prevail because the members
of such a family they don't know any
better because one member or two a
parent or parents
retain all the power this power as
symmetry
and the children compete for the crumbs.
of the drags of the power.
And so
the children feel unsafe.
They can't experience their feelings
authentically. They feel threatened.
They become very defensive
and they exclude the children exclude
emotions, effects and taboo cognitions
intracy psychically. That means they
don't dare to experience these things
even alone even in the solitude of their
room and interpersonally as well with
with other members of the family. The
pseudo mutual family is about fitting
together
making it difficult for for members to
cultivate any form of individualism.
Members of such families, for example,
are terrified to have relationships
outside the family. This is perceived as
betrayal.
And when they have a boyfriend or a
girlfriend, the parents will make sure
that it fails.
They will, I don't know, criticize the
boyfriend, demean, and denigrate the
girlfriend. They would they would cast
the whole thing as a form of abandonment
or betrayal.
I have sacrificed my life for you. You
are ungrateful.
Growth within the person and the
relationship is thwarted in such
systems. Individuals who grow up in this
pseudo emotional climate of the pseudo
mutual family, they don't develop a
strong sense of selfidentity and they
can't differentiate
even in terms of gender or sexuality.
Everything, every difference, every
individuality is perceived as a threat
to the family unit. Win concluded that a
focus on the family's alignments and
splits provides illuminating diagnostic
information about the health of a family
and the health of individuals. Paying
attention to how a family organizes
around and responds to alignments and
splits provides a therapist with many
possible avenues of therapeutic
intervention.
And so
um this is the the the psychological uh
background. Of course, children in such
families
are enshed.
There's a lot of emotional incest.
Personal autonomy is is extinct.
Um cohesion is just a facade.
Um and so Sullivan was the first to
describe a family dynamic perspective of
mental illness. He stressed the
importance of interpersonal
relationships for mental illness. I
subscribe to this school. I think mental
illnesses are interpersonal and
relational not individual.
and and today this is fast becoming the
the kind of the let's say the orthodoxy
Alan who is a scholar aln
he he says that possessive traits can be
found in in mothers of children with
mental illness baiton as I mentioned
before developed the concept of a double
bind
leads liz
said that the family is schismatic or
skewed when the child is mentally ill.
There's a constant hostility in the
family and the parents don't constitute
adequate sexual identification objects
for the children. Children can't emulate
these parents. They're terrified of
them. They hate them. They resent them
actually, but they can't allow
themselves. The child cannot allow
himself or herself to consciously
experience hate towards the parent is
very threatening. So she begins to hate
herself.
The egos of these children are
underdeveloped.
That's why they become narcissists. They
easily broken down these egos by
anything forbidden sexual sex
aggression.
Pseudomutuality and pseudo hostility are
rigid interactional systems. They're not
they're not flexible. They're not open
to modification. They're not reactive to
environmental cues and inputs or
stimuli.
Part of the feelings, the feelings are
denied. They're isolated from
consciousness. Children learn to deny
their feelings and themselves.
Stillin st i e r l i n. Stillin
developed a family dynamic theory that
encompasses many of these um mentioned
things that I mentioned. according to
still an individuation is a fundamental
process in normal development but it is
hindered by effective cognitive or moral
binding in the family and the family
tells you that's the only right way to
emote. It's the only right way to think
and it's the only right set of values
and you are not at liberty to question
them to doubt them to undermine them to
challenge them. You're not at liberty to
be you.
You are just a recipient
tabulasa. You're blank slate and you're
a recipient. You're going to you're
going to become what we tell you to
become. If we want your opinion, we will
give it to you.
Um these families
even when they delegate when they kind
they when when members of a family tell
the child we trust you. Okay. We trust
you with a task. We trust you with an
assignment. Even then
the child is a servant.
The child is expected to be subservient.
He becomes a people pleaser. He becomes
parentified even when there is
delegation. In such families, the child
performs services for other family
members.
And this creates in the child internal
conflicts.
And from generation to generation
there are studies that show that this is
multi-generational
binding, delegating, double bind,
negative family relationships
are hypothesized as active agents for u
many mental illnesses.
This is especially true in narcissistic
families. Narcissistic families are
founded on these imbalances
on these discrepancies
on these unspoken
unthought knowns on these unspoken
truths.
The narcissist holds all the power and
the control and there are everyone else
is a kind of enabler.
Everyone else relegates responsibility
to the narcissist. Everyone else becomes
brain dead, zombified.
Mother and father
um often interchange roles depending on
the situation, but they both subscribe
to a narcissistic creed. And so
these kind of families, narcissistic
families
give the children, allocate to the
children roles. I mentioned them in my
previous videos. And the children
gradually begin to perceive themselves
as in a way survivors. There's a lack of
boundaries. There's emotional
manipulation. There's harmful harmful
conflict. There's rigid and meshment.
And it's very very effective. It's very
effective because of this cult
mentality, because of the generalized
idea that the world is dangerous and
hostile and we need to stick together in
order to survive.
This is a general introduction to pseudo
humility and pseudo hostility. I'll have
a lot more to say in the future applying
these concepts to families that generate
uh narcissistic children, borderline
children, psychopathic children.
I can't hope that you have enjoyed this
because it's not enjoyable.
But um if you have any questions or if
you want to describe your case with your
own family, feel free to comment uh I
promise not to delete more than nine out
of 10 comments.
That was me talking to you, Sam Baknin,
professor of psychology and author of
malignant self- loveve narcissism
revisited and a survivor of a pseudo
mutual and a pseudo hostile family. the
worst ever.
Today I have adopted the disheveled med
scientist look.
I hope you like it. My hairdresser is in
a hospital, not because of me. For a
change.
Okay, Shashanim. Today we are going to
discuss desire and violence in
narcissistic families. But first we have
to define of course what are
narcissistic families or households
because the family is a dying thing or
at least marriages.
A narcissistic household has parents,
children or a narcissistic household can
be deprived or devoid of children. But
within a narcissistic household, there's
at least one narcissist. It could be in
a typical nuclear traditional family. It
could be mother or father. It could be
siblings.
It could be um a lover. So within the
household, there is at least one
narcissist and other non-narcissist.
This is what I would call throughout
this video a narcissistic household.
A narcissistic household trigger
dynamics which were described by Rene
Jard.
We'll talk about him in a minute. And
these are known as mimemetic desire and
mimemetic violence.
Stay with me for a truly wild ride in
the outer recesses of the French
intellectual mind.
My name is San Vagn. I'm the author of
malignant self- loveve narcissism
revisited and I'm a professor of
psychology disheveled or not. In
narcissistic households authentic desire
is suppressed. You're not allowed to
express emotions,
motivations,
attitudes that are authentic, that are
true to yourself, that reflect who you
truly are. You're not allowed, you're
not permitted to establish boundaries.
Consequently,
when the members of the household are
children, they fail to develop a
functioning self or a functioning ego.
Rather than authentic desire, the
narcissistic household or the
narcissists in the household encourage
uh mimemetic desire. So authentic desire
is sacrificed in favor of mimemetic
desire and it's correlate mimemetic
violence. What on earth am I talking
about? Can I transition to English? Yes,
I can. Stay with me and you will
understand every single word I've just
said. I hope I do too. Reesar
created a theory called mimetic theory.
He suggested that human desire is not
autonomous. Human desire is imitated. We
look at other people and we imitate
them. We appropriate their desires,
their dreams, their fantasies, their
wishes. Jira was that close to the
concept of shared fantasy, but he never
crossed the line. That attainment
belongs to Sander in 1989.
Still jer describes described all the
mechanisms of shared fantasy. He
suggested that the conveyance the
conduit the conveyor belt of desire was
mimesis mimicry imitation emulation and
he said that because people end up
desiring the same objects this creates
competition for these objects. He
introduced the concept, the economic
concept of scarcity.
And so objects are scarce, physical
objects, but also human objects. If you
are competing for the same woman or for
the same man, you would know what J was
talking about. This scarcity of objects
creates a competitive environment. And
since we imitate each other, we have
this herd mentality of imitating each
other in our desires. This inevitably
ineluctibly gives rise to competition
which easily deteriorates and devolves
into violence. Think about the cues when
a new iPhone is released and how people
often end up fighting within these cues.
This rivalry inevitably creates conflict
and this is what he called mimemetic
violence. And he said the way societies
resolved, amilarated and mitigated
mimemetic violence is by uniting against
an arbitrary victim.
And he called it the scapegoat
mechanism. And here is the sequence.
When we ask ourselves what is it that we
want? What is it that we truly desire?
What is our fantasy, our dream? We look
at other people and we look to other
people. They say, "They desire an
iPhone. I'm going to desire an iPhone,
too." This creates competition because
the number of iPhones is limited. The
scarcity and this competition gives rise
to conflict and possibly in extreme
cases to violence.
To prevent this pervasive violence, to
fend off against this aggression,
society sacrifices some of its members.
These sacrificial members are known as
scapegoats.
So mimetic desire people don't know what
to desire. They look to others models.
They determine what is worthy of
desiring. Desire is therefore a
triangle. subject, model, object and
desire can be internally mediated or
externally mediated. If the model is out
of reach, for example, if a role model
is a celebrity,
what results is external mediation. This
comes very close to the work of Bandura.
But by the way, so the result is
external mediation. If the model, the
role model is close, for example, a
sibling, a friend, a colleague, a
teacher, a peer, classmate. So if the
model is closed and we tend to emulate
or imitate or mimic a closed model's
desire, this is known as internal
mediation and this leads to intense
direct rivalry.
Mimemetic rivalry, mimetic violence is
when two people who are close together
in physical proximity, in daily friction
in a relationship, in a diet, in a
family, in a in a community, two people
who share the same physical and mental
space want the same object. They become
rivals. They imitate not only each
other's desire.
They adopt each other's tactics, but
they also imitate and emulate each
other's hostility.
The focus shifts from the object to the
rivalry.
The rival becomes the object in a way.
The rivalry intensifies and spreads
throughout the family or throughout the
community. And this is what Jiao called
the crisis of distinctions.
I am sure that as I speak many of you
can apply everything I'm describing to
the narcissistic family. Everything I've
just said applies in you. It applies
powerfully in the narcissistic family
more so than in normal healthy families.
In the narcissistic family, mimemetic
desire is everything because authentic
expressions are forbidden. And because
in most cases, the self, the formation
of the self is disrupted. There's no
authentic desire because there's no
authentic self. So everyone imitates
everyone in a narcissistic family. Matic
desire is the bon the name of the game
and the plat. So mimetic desire re leads
to rivalry. For example, one of the
objects could be the narcissistic
parents admiration and approbation and
approval and conditional love. So the
siblings would compete for this scarce
object and as they compete they would
develop rivalry, conflict and very often
this will culminate in violence.
Ultimately the whole family in order to
prevent a disintegration of the unit in
order to secure a smooth functioning
the whole family will settle on a
scapegoat a scapegoat mechanism to
prevent total destruction from mutual
emerging violence within the family
unit. The family unites against an
arbitrary marginalized
scapegoat, a member of the family that
can be safely sacrificed. The shared vi
violence against this victim restores
peace, creates a founding myth for the
family social order. It is the ethos of
the family. Ranes
was born in a very interesting place in
Aignon in France and he died in Stanford
in the United States. Obviously
he was he was many things. He was a
literary critic, a scholar, a
philosopher and he made numerous and
very often controversial contributions
in in fields too many to enumerate. His
theory of mimemetic desire was focused
on trying to understand what makes
people tick. So it was a kind of
extension of Faji's work of men of on
mentalizing. It was an attempt to
generate a universal theory of the mind
a theory of everything in the field of
mind studies. And he he sought to to un
to he sought to comprehend
the transition from desire to conflict.
H believed that uh un human desire
begets conflicts and he asked himself
why is that? And then he came up with
the idea of sacrifice and the theory of
the scapegoat and that concluded the
defense so to speak. Those of you who
have been attuned to America's political
scene have heard people like Peter Phil
and JD Vance quoting profusely from the
work of Rene
de developed the concept of mimetic
desire in his first book deceit desire
and the novel self and other in literary
structure. The book was published aptly
in the year that I was born 1961
momentous year for many reasons.
Mimemetic imitative desire postulates
that humans objects of desire are
determined not by individual
psychological factors but instead by
interpersonal dynamics. In this sense,
mimemetic desire is an object relations
theory exactly like the British
proponents of object relations in the
1960s, the same period. It suggested
that we are defined relationally.
Nothing or little emanates from the
inside. Little is innate. It all emerges
and erupts owing to and within
interactions with other people which is
one of the main claims of object
relation British object relation
theories. According to Giral's theory of
mimetic desire, humans desire the things
that other people possess or that other
people desire for precisely the same
reasons that other others possess or
desire them. Everything therefore is a
whole of mirrors and it's a concept that
many of you would be acquainted with
from my own work.
Desire is not a relationship between a
subject, an individual human being and
an object, the desirable thing.
It's not this.
Until Girat's work, we believe that
desire was directional. There's a human
agent and the human agent desires
something, a laptop, a smartphone,
another human being, whatever, whatever
strikes your fancy. But starting with
Ja, we realize the social dimension of
desire. Desire is a relationship between
two or more subjects, people mediated
via the object. One could even
generalize and say that the desired
object is an excuse to have a
relationship between two people. What
type of relationship? Competitive
conflict, rivalry, ultimately possibly
culminating in mimetic violence and the
inevitable attempt to reconcile to
pacify by sacrificing someone. The
scapegoat.
Jira, as you have understood by now, was
exactly like me, highly critical of
individualistic notions in psychology.
For example, the existence of a self or
an individual or a personality. He
didn't believe in any of this. Neither
do I. And
similarly, he criticized the concept of
the unconscious. and in this sense is
very reminiscent of Lan. Lakan suggested
that the unconscious is a sum total of
the narratives of other minds of other
people their voices. Similarly, Gir
criticize the unconscious. He did not
believe in it. He said that mimemetic
desire provides an occasion to uh revise
psychoanalytic theory. Although he was a
great admirer of Zigman Freud, he recast
many of Freud's ideas in terms of
mimemetic desire. Take for example the
Erdupus complex. Freud's conception of
the rivalry between sons and their
fathers. His jer suggested that the
fatherson rivalry is driven
not by the competition for the object
which is the mother
but it is driven by the fact that the
son models himself on the father. The
father becomes the role model for the
son. Obviously, if the son mimics the
father, if the son emulates and imitates
the father, the son is also going to
appropriate and annex and absorb and
digest the father's desire for the
mother. Their relationship is
transformed into one of violent rivalry
when the son imitates the father's
desire for the mother. And all this
culminates or leads to the epitome of
Jaw's work which is the sacrifice and
the scapegoat. These are very common
dynamics in narcissistic families. The
golden child and the scapegoat and all
this. Now you are beginning to um I hope
uh see the deeper layers of the
mechanisms behind this.
Gira expanded the idea of mimemetic
desire in another book a decade later in
1972
la
the violence and the sacred this book
offered an analysis of sacrifice in
ancient religions it's amazing reading
by the way this man was encyclopedic
it's it's it's it's mindshattering to
read his work especially in the original
in French he said that when desire is
intrinsically mimetic. Human experience
is suffused with competition, envy,
rivalry, and this often leads to
violence. Indeed, within narcissistic
families, where authentic desire is
frowned upon, castigated, chastised,
criticized, and ultimately eradicated,
what's left is mimemetic desire. And the
dynamics in narcissistic families
consequently involve envy, rivalry,
competition and a lot of aggression,
passive aggression and externalized
aggression very often violence.
And Jar suggested that such violence
terrified
terrifies everyone involved.
Even violent people sometimes sometimes
are shocked by their own violence.
Violence has a very unsettling effect.
And he said that the risk of violence,
the peril of such violence
creates a challenge. How does the family
unit, the community, society, the nation
state, you name it, how do human
collectives, small and big, narcissistic
families included, pathological human
collectives and healthy human
collectives, how do all of them manage
the incipient
emergent eruptive violence that is
involved in mimetic desire?
the way that the human impulse towards
retribution could lead to a cycle of
murders or other types of violence and
aggression between individuals and
families and communities and nation
states.
Just have a look at Israel and
Palestine. So
if you don't harness mimemetic desire,
if you don't sublimate it and channel
it, if you don't maybe procribe it, make
it illegal,
you are at risk of encouraging all the
participants
to continuously engage in aggression and
counter aggression, perpetration and
retribution,
uh crime and punishment. And there's no
end to this cycle. And this potential
for unending violence presents a problem
for people living together in a family,
in society and so on. Even in
narcissistic families, aggression has to
be somehow controlled or the family will
implode.
Violence can even be externalized as one
of the main forces affecting human
experience.
And so there's a lot of aggression in
violence in organizational systems such
as religion, the n nationalism, nation
state. Aggression and violence are inter
interwoven
into the narratives that govern our
lives. As you wrote, violence is the
heart and sacred soul of the sacred.
In order to avoid internal violence,
maintain stability and guarantee the
survival of the human collective,
humans, societies, human families, human
communities developed a mechanism. The
mechanism is like a steam valve. You
know, in uh when we when you cook,
there's a steam valve. The mechanism is
like a steam valve. It is intended to
dissipate the energy, the psychic
energy, the perfected aggression, the
tension caused by mimemetic desire.
And this mechanism is the sacrifice of a
scapegoat.
The sacrifice
could be ritualistic
involving you know in ancient times
human sacrifice nowadays cancelling
someone or incarcerating imprisoning
someone. These are various ways of
ritually sacrificing someone
or the sacrifice could be in the air as
part of a role an allocated or emergent
role.
Someone assumes the role of a scapegoat
and is constantly sacrificed time and
again. their interests, their wishes,
their dreams, their hopes, everything is
sacrificed, trampled upon, suppressed,
repressed, mocked, ridiculed, shamed,
humiliated. So the sacrifice becomes the
role of the the scapegoat. The role of a
scapegoat is to be sacrificed. And this
I call it ambient sacrificing. So
sacrificing could be acute, ritualistic
or ambient. The invi the inevitable
violent impulses that humans experience
as a result of the structure of mimetic
desire are channeled redirected at
someone or something outside the
confines or structure of society outside
the pale beyond the pale. Someone who
will not be avenged. Someone who is
deemed sacrificeable. Someone who is
characterized as a monster. someone
whose punishment is cathartic and
considered moral and ethical.
Xiao said that the development of such a
mechanism is integral to the stability
of any given human collective, any given
society.
And of course,
one could conceive of this kind of
sacrifice as a part of the implicit
contract in narcissistic families, in
healthy families, in societies, in
nation states. We have a social contract
and there's a whole theory known as
social contract theory and it's based
around fully transparent and mutual
agreements
in the old in the 18th century theories
but today we know that a lot of the
social contract is submerged a lot of it
is implicit a lot of it is unspoken
bolas as Bolas coined the phrase the um
unknown thought
uh so
uh the unthought known. So we have a
situation here where the mimemetic
desire and the sacrificial mechanism are
integral parts
cogs and wheels in the social contract
and Giral said that scapegoating is
central to the functioning of any social
contract and vice versa. those
participating in it do not recognize
what they're doing as scapegoating as a
sacrifice of the innocent. They convince
themselves that what they're doing doing
is persecuting criminals or for the
greater good or protecting the innocent
or guarding the vulnerable or they tell
themselves they invent all kinds of
narratives to explain what they're
doing. performing the killing or the
eradication of an outsider
of the other
erh is perceived or misperceived as
justly punishing someone who deserves
punishment when in fact the victim
unjustly bears blame for the community's
social dysfunction.
Outliers, outcasts, iconoclass,
controversial figures, they are the
natural scapegoat. You can pin
everything on them. They're defenseless
because they have excluded themselves
themselves from the social firewall from
social protection. They have made
themselves available as monsters and
they are inevit they inevitably end up
being sacrificed or scapegoed.
Marcel Mouse and Uber wrote the book
sacrifice
sacrifice its nature and function in
1898. We're having a French video
in the in their work which is an amazing
piece of work. Musuber suggested that
sacrifice is not performed because these
are the because there are gods. It's not
like there's a god and the god demands
sacrifice.
But instead the gods were created in
order to justify sacrifice in order to
explain it. You see according to jir
mimemetic desire leads to rivalry to
competition to violence. To avoid to
prevent this violence, the energy, the
aggression is redirected at scapegoats.
But how do we justify scapegoating? We
invent gods. We say we need to sacrifice
this person because there's a god. The
god could be a classical god, you know,
with a beard and and the god could be,
for example, the rule of law. The rule
of law, that's a kind of god.
It's not religion that creates the
ritual. is the ritual that generates the
religion.
According to Jir
and Mus fail to fully understand the
origins and functions of sacrificial
ritual, but their insight, their basic
insight is essentially correct. J said
that the killing of the scapegoat shifts
the focus from the community's internal
disagreements and discord and strife to
something external. It's a distraction
in today's world. It's also became it
also became form of entertainment.
Through the sacrifice, political
stability is restored. There's a sense
of cathosis and purification.
The sacrifice of the scapegoat provides
a peaceful respit.
And that's why we ascribe to the
scapegoating process
transcendental meanings. religious,
national, legal within the narcissistic
family. Scapegoating is very crucial
because it allows the narcissistic
parent, for example, or the narcissistic
sibling to project onto the scapegoat
the parts of themselves that they find
unacceptable, that they reject.
The pacifying effects of the sacrifice
do not last, however, and so the
sacrifice must be repeated regularly.
And that's what I call ambient
sacrificing in narcissistic families.
When you look around you today in
postmodern societies, you see victimhood
movements, you see cancel culture, and
you see moral panics, Satanism,
child sexual abuse, sexual assault.
These are all moral panics. We are in
need of scapegoats more than ever. We
are in need of human sacrifice more than
ever because the world is terrifying
more than ever. We need to plate,
pacify, reduce our anxieties. And the
only way to do this is to sacrifice
human beings. We used to sacrifice them
physically, cut out their hearts in the
Aztec cultures, but today we sacrifice
them symbolically. We incarcerate them
in prisons. We cancel them so that they
disappear effectively. We dredge up
recovered memories of false memories and
put hundreds of people in prison. We
attribute to every single male who has
ever engaged in sexual assault. That's
the way we sacrifice people nowadays
initially.
Uh and and so there's a congruence
between victimhood, the notion of
victimhood and and scapegoating because
scapegoats are often cast or described
as perpetrators and they victimize all
everyone else and so everyone else has a
right to to this human sacrifice.
Initially society is dominated by the
violence that is entailed by mimetic
desire. Society develops the scapegoat
mechanism to redirect violence in ways
that are less harmful to itself which in
turn inspires the invention of religion
to justify sacrifice is how the
encyclopedia Britannica describes the
situation. Ultimately
I'm continuing to quote from the
Britannica. Ultimately with the rise of
the state as a political formation, the
function of sacrifice is largely
absorbed by the judicial systems that's
a Britannica capacity to discipline and
punish members of the populace.
I as an aside I will mention here that's
not the Britannica that's me that Fuko
Michelle Fuko working more or less at
the same period attributed the same
function to inpatient psychiatry. He
said that psychiatry, menlo, all this
apparatus of suppression, oppression,
all this oppressive apparatus was
intended to isolate, identify, isolate
uh scapegoats and sacrifice as a as a
tool of social control.
Simultaneously, we had gauore. It was an
amazing time, the 1960s. I was born
then. We had Gibbor who was talking
about the society of the spectacle.
Scapegoating is a form of spectacle,
a spectacle of collective purification
and kafazi's spectacle spectacle of mass
projection.
And so Jir
paid homage homage to this tradition of
grand historical narratives of human
development. And that's why he did
admire Ziggman Freud especially his work
totem unaboo totem and taboo 1913
because it was Freud who suggested that
primordial sacrifice sacrificial murder
lies at the foundation of society. He
said that Freud suggested that we came
together and created communities and
then societies and then nation states
and then super national bodies. All this
intended to regularize and ritualize
the sacrifice of scapegoats through the
legal system, through the judicial
system. and Giral agreed with it. But he
took Freud's notion in a different
direction because he insisted that the
foundational murder was not
fundamentally eripal or sexual but a
sacrifice of a scapegoat that channeled
and released pent-up tensions and
aggression and potential violence in the
community. And when I say community,
society, nation state, just substitute
narcissistic family or narcissistic
household and you get the full picture.
I gave you an insight via work and
others into the scapegoating mechanism
in narcissistic families. I hope you
enjoyed the tour and
which is in French. See you soon whether
you want to or not.