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Andrew Schultz and Kai Walker open their discussion by highlighting Andrew's upcoming film *Running*, a project directed by Gavin O'Conor and shot by cinematographer Yanush Kaminsky that follows the inspiring story of a homeless high school student becoming America's fastest mile runner. The conversation quickly shifts to Tom Holland, whom the hosts argue is one of Hollywood's few true box office stars capable of carrying films independently without relying solely on franchise intellectual property; they praise his unique charm and contrast him with Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield, noting that while previous actors were excellent dramatic performers, Holland brings a distinct energy. This admiration for Holland extends to *Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse*, which ranks among their top five films overall but below major Avengers entries like *Endgame*. However, they express significant concerns regarding Marvel's decision to introduce X-Men characters such as Jean Grey into the MCU without sufficient setup or explanation of their origins, questioning how integrating major mutants disrupts established storylines and why Daredevil needed assistance while other heroes were available. The dialogue broadens to include critiques on logical inconsistencies in superhero movies, specifically breathing mechanisms on alien ships, and a defense against studies comparing box office numbers across decades that fail to adjust for inflation or rising ticket prices from roughly seven dollars to twenty. While defending Holland's billion-dollar grosses despite these modern costs, the hosts also touch upon broader cultural topics, including skepticism about transgender dolls in classrooms and comparisons of sports culture differences between cities like New York, Philadelphia, Boston, and Los Angeles. A significant portion is dedicated to LeBron James, where they debate whether his team moves constitute "ring chasing" or building successful rosters everywhere he goes, analyzing the chemistry under his leadership with teams like the Sixers compared to others. The segment concludes with Charlemagne sharing news of receiving a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame in the radio category after twenty-eight years as a DJ, clarifying that stars are awarded before payment for installation and reflecting on how mediocrity often enjoys tearing down successful people while expressing gratitude toward online critics. In their final reflections, the hosts discuss Tom Holland's anticipated receipt of his own star in 2027, joking about adding WNBA players to plaques or paying for immortality, and debating whether radio personalities like Howard Stern deserve such honors alongside stage names appearing on monuments rather than birth names. They identify Yeezy sneakers as direct copies of New Balance models before shifting to a heartwarming observation that Gen Z men are becoming more present fathers while women work, contrasting this with past generations where dads were often absent. The conversation explores the balance between luck and hard work, citing John Morgan's book *Hold On* which argues self-made success is largely mythological, yet both hosts acknowledge divine intervention in their paths despite valuing effort. They recount a memorable summer filled with dopamine-inducing activities like attending Jay-Z concerts, seeing Mary J. Blige, watching Tracy Ellis Ross's play *Every Brilliant Thing*, visiting the Hamptons for lobster rolls and ice cream, celebrating a sister's wedding, and bonding deeply with their daughter who is now old enough to communicate her desires clearly. Reflecting on having children at an older age makes them cherish time more intensely, prompting lifestyle changes like stopping morning drinking to be fully present; when asked what moment they wish would stop temporarily, both jokingly cite premature orgasms before seriously agreeing that freezing time during cherished vacation moments or with their daughter is ideal, referencing the TV show *Blossom* in a humorous aside about wishing for superpowers. The segment concludes by teasing potential future projects including a movie featuring them walking past a graveyard directed by Christopher Nolan and brainstorming comedic ideas such as giving each other absurd superpowers or staging controversial specials that confuse audiences but ultimately make the world better through humor, ending with their signature sign-off reminding listeners they are brilliant idiots if you think so, otherwise just idiots who don't know anything.
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Head to squarespace.com/idiots to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using the code idiots. That's squarespace.com/idiots. Now let's start the show. >> Hello Kai Walker. >> Yes sir. Sh man of God. >> How are you sir? >> I'm well man. How are you? >> Blessed black and highly favored man. We just two 40 something year old old men man doing the best we can. >> We doing the best we can. >> We just we just doing the best doing the best we can we can. >> Trying to take care of our families. >> Two old fathers just out here doing the best we can, man. Take care of our children. You see what I'm saying? >> Just working hard. >> You see what I'm saying? You was in LA. was uh we we took a week off last week. Sorry we didn't tell you. >> Sorry about that guys. That's that's on me, man. I was out in LA shooting this movie and it's >> How's that going, >> man? The movie is beautiful. It's like I mean the guy is shooting it like the director is sick and then the guy who's shooting it is like a legend. >> Can you say what it's about yet? >> Uh yeah. Yeah. I think the I think it's out. It's a homeless high school kid uh becomes the fastest mile runner in America. >> How? >> Wait, a homeless high school? Yeah. >> What does he eat? >> Get into that. >> Homeless high school kid. >> Yeah. >> How do you become a homeless high school kid? >> Sometimes >> you're homeless and you still choose to go to school, I guess, though, right? To get a get a meal. You have to You have to go watch it. You have to go watch it. >> He don't get [ __ ] in nothing, does he? >> By some adult. >> I don't know. >> Looking to see if he you know what you willing to do for some room and board. >> He's sleeping in the school though, right? If he's homeless. >> I don't know. Oh, these are the I mean, the fact that you guys are asking so many questions makes it feel like, you know, there's some interest out there. >> What's the name of it? It has a name yet. >> Running. >> Running. Wow. Okay. >> All right. Little on the nose. >> Does it become >> Does it become like a track star or something? >> Who, guys? Who knows? >> When does it come out? Who knows? Okay. >> When does it come out? >> Who knows? Who knows? They're still filming. It takes so much time for movies to come out after you film That [ __ ] sound like some [ __ ] that's going for a [ __ ] uh Oscar or something. >> The guy who who's making a director is Gavin Oconor. So you did you see uh Miracle? It's a movie It's a movie about the US uh team that beats the Russian uh hockey team. >> Uh >> you saw it? Yeah. And then like uh Warrior, I don't know if you saw that one. Tom Hardy, the accountant. >> Yeah, >> Ben Affle like >> sounds prestigious. >> Yeah. No, he's a beast. And then the the DP of it is this guy named Yanush Kaminsky. >> Yanush Kaminsky is Spielberg's guy. So he did Save Prime Ryan. He did [ __ ] He's just an absolute beast. So you got some really cool people to be working with. >> Got you. I saw people they were uh talking about our Odyssey review. >> What' they say? >> They were mad that I didn't know Greek mythology. Who the [ __ ] said I knew Greek mythology? >> Where are you seeing these reactions? >> Somebody sent it to me or you know I don't know. It came up on my they came up on my Instagram though. But what what was the criticism that you're not an expert in like ancient Greek myth mythology? >> I wasn't trying it was you know why I saw because it was a debate cuz people were saying is he supposed to be they're talking about the [ __ ] movie like >> but what was the tape >> and somebody said that wasn't Helen Troy. >> Yeah it was. >> That's what I thought too when when you told me >> it was Helen Troy >> but then they was like she didn't have a twin sister. >> Well >> they said or say they said maybe the movie didn't flesh it out. Some versions of the Odyssey, they are twins. Others, they're just sisters. >> Got you. Got you. Got you. Got you. Got you. >> None of this [ __ ] is real. Like, we're going off whatever one got written down hundreds of years later than it actually was told. So, >> it was a good ass movie, man. >> It was incredible. >> That's it. That's it. You seen Spider-Man? >> Not yet, but I heard his fire. >> WHOA. STOP. >> Somebody hold me. And I'm shouting out whoever DM'd me, but someone DM'd me. They go, "Get ready." They go, "Get ready >> for Charlotte to hate on Tom Holland." Listen, cuz you know once a white boy gets emotion, Charlene got to shut that [ __ ] down. >> Shut Especially if he's married to a black woman. You got to shut that [ __ ] down immediately. >> I'll give Tom some props. I thought about this while I was watching the movie. >> Yeah. Did you ask what he's done for black people? >> No. Shut up. Tom Holland and Zenaia might be the only true Hollywood stars >> left. >> Who? Yeah. I mean, just in general, like from for what we know as Hollywood stardom, they might be the only two. >> So, what does that mean? >> Compliment, he still had to [ __ ] on Shalomé in order to give >> Oh, Shalam don't got [ __ ] on Tom Holland. No, no, no. Shalam don't got [ __ ] on Tom Holl don't got [ __ ] on Tom Holland. >> Let's just hold on for a second. I would like you to define Hollywood star. >> Walk outside swarmed by paparazzi. Literally can't move. Box office. >> So box office success. >> Box office success. >> All right. >> Right now because >> I got a lot of love for Tom Holland. >> Tom Holland's going to be in two billion dollar movie. This [ __ ] dropped it. Spider-Man almost did a billion a weekend. >> Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I got a lot of lot cuz I think Tom is brilliant. No question. the But if we're talking about if we're talking about box office success, I can't attribute box office success when you're part of the franchise to just box office success. In other words, you said this before, you were talking about the Daily Show. >> Yeah. >> And you were like, you can put people in there and it will work because it's an institution. >> Can't do that with Spider-Man. Tom Holland is the greatest Spider-Man. This is not This is not Shane Tom. Tom Holland is unfucking believable and he's just so charming. He's an amazing actor. He's incredible. What I'm trying to say is >> is has Tom been put in a position where he's the lead in a movie that has no existing IP and is generating the rev. >> Spider-Man versus Marty Supreme. They're two very different. Well, I wouldn't even I wouldn't even count Marty because I think Josh Safy has right now we follow directors more. It's like Cougler put something out. It don't even need to be ma based on anything. We're going to watch it for Cougler. >> Josh has got that. Nolan has got that. >> You know, there's certain people where you're just going to go see the movie. >> But Tom is in very rare air that I only want to see his version of Spider-Man. That's >> Spider-Man the next Spider-Man. And whenever it's gonna be five years from now, 10 years from now, hard act to follow, bro. It might it might it might take a nose dive to be honest with you. >> Well, this is the Bonds [ __ ] James Bond, you get an idea of who you let me get this out, but you get an idea of who James Bond is in your brain and then they throw someone else in there and they got to be so spectacular for you to like essentially like edit out what you thought James Bond was. But you know why, and I agree with that, but I also think Tom shatters uh that theory of having to be part of a franchise because we've seen other Spider-Man franchises. Toby Magguire can't [ __ ] with Tom Holland. Toby's >> Andrew Garfield can't [ __ ] with Tom Holland, bro. >> I think Garfield can't Toby was a beast. >> And and by the way, they were all in a movie together and Tom still >> shining. I'm Listen, I'm not saying >> Toby was A CLOSE. ARE WE GOING TO ACT like Toby wasn't him though during Spider-Man back in the day? >> Are we going to act like he wasn't him? >> I Everybody's a [ __ ] >> Garfield. I didn't >> Chrysler 300 thinks it's a phantom till a phantom shows up. >> I know you're not talking. >> I'M JUST SAYING WE TALKING ABOUT TOBY. >> I THOUGHT TOBY WAS A TOBY LIKE I THOUGHT TOBY WAS A HISTORY. This is >> Listen. I thought Tom WAS A FAN GOT THAT DANCING SEQUENCE WALKING down the street that Toby had. >> Remember when Toby FOUND HE GOT HIS POWERS OR WHATEVER? I DON'T KNOW IF TOM GOT now listen but Tom Holland did that dancing thing with Zia when he was did some show. >> We forget about that. We forget about that. That [ __ ] We all remember that. That [ __ ] was >> That almost lost him his career. That [ __ ] was unbelievable. I couldn't believe it that happened. I was like what the hell is going on? >> Great job with it. >> Yeah, it's too good. Toby >> uh >> can't [ __ ] with Tom Holland. >> Let me just put this out. I I can accept Garfield Garfield a better emotional actor. He's a better dramatic actor. >> I DON'T KNOW, BRO. >> YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SAY TO THAT TOM WASHES TOBY CRAZY SHOWS. I'm serious. >> You're crazy. >> You got to see the new one, yo. And it's good, by the way. I liked it. I thought it was a great movie. >> Who was in the movies with Toby? >> I don't even [ __ ] know >> exactly. >> I DON'T KNOW. >> EXACTLY. >> AIN'T NOBODY IN THESE MOVIES WITH TOMMY EITHER. >> ZENTAYA. >> Zena is like a bit People don't She's a bit character. How? She's probably on the screen what 30 minutes. >> Yeah. Not that much. >> She's a bit player. Like, and I like Zinda in these movies cuz she's his uh emotional anchor. But nah, bro. Tom is different. >> Tom is different. >> It's like that. >> Tom different. >> I [ __ ] up. I LOVE TOM. I DON'T WANT TO SEE HIM AS TOM Shade here. I love Tom. >> And what else is Toby done? Yo, you're being raci. YOU ARE I'M ASKING A QUESTION. ALL I KNOW IS [ __ ] LOVE. >> What the [ __ ] ELSE IS TOBY? I MEAN IT SINCERELY. >> PULL IT UP. TOBY. I MEAN IT SINCERELY. >> Toby will [ __ ] you up. I mean this dead ass. >> PULL IT UP. >> I'M TELLING YOU. YOU SLEEP ON TOBY. >> I'M NOT SLEEP. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE HE'S BEEN IN. >> YOU THINK JONAH Hills uh does your >> boss baby? >> HE WAS IN THE GREAT BABY. YO, >> YO, stop it, bro. You're being disrespectful. Boss, baby. >> You're being disrespected. >> I don't know. Look. Ho. Stop from the top tail. >> Look at Look at this. >> Spider-Man. Spider-Man. Spider-Man. Spider-Man. Brothers. >> Brothers. Of course. >> The [ __ ] did he do? BROTHERS. >> THE GREAT GATSBY. GATSBY. >> ARE WE ARE WE LIKE WE DON'T KNOW MOVIES. >> I can't remember. I can't remember him now. Leo was all I biscuit. >> Exactly. >> He was in Seab Biscuit. >> Yeah, HE WAS THE HORSE. >> I THOUGHT he was baby Spider-Man. Seab Biscuit. >> Thunder. >> Tropic, bro. I don't remember nothing. Come on, bro. >> Oh, I thought he was in Lord of the Rings. Come on. Come on, man. Come on. Come on. Come on, man. That's all I'm trying to say. >> Come on, man. [ __ ] Tom Hollands in the Odyssey, guys. What do we do? >> Who's the guy that's in Lord of the Rings? >> Yo, you know how hard it is to be a superhero >> and the rings? >> What is that? Lord, listen. You know how hard it is to star of a superhero franchise? We'll do another franchise and it actually be good and a hit and not once did I wait for him to [ __ ] throw out his websers in the Odyssey. >> What other franchise is he is he is he going to? >> No, I said you know how hard it is for him to be the star of a franchise >> and then go to another >> go to a movie like the Odyssey. People have tried to do it. Think about Robert Downey Jr. He did Sherlock Holmes at the height of Iron Man. >> You don't even remember that [ __ ] >> You know what I'm saying? Like think about all the stuff Chris Helmsworth has done. He really didn't do that good in the Odyssey though. >> Who? Tom Holland. >> No, he didn't. Stop it. >> All right. So now, now >> what are y'all judging? >> I want you to I want you to show me, >> and this is no shade cuz Tom is [ __ ] unbelievable. But show me the the massive success that Tom carried. That's not Spider-Man. >> I don't know. >> Cuz we know massive successes that Soie had. >> We do. All right, I'm I'm not going to do this. I'm asking I'm not GOING TO DO THIS. I DON'T THE GREAT GATSBY WAS REMEMBERS HIM. >> That was Leo, baby. CUT IT OUT. BIG LEO FORGOT LEO WAS IN IT. I FORGOT HE WAS IN IT. NOT EVEN I FORGOT LEO WAS IN THAT. >> GO BACK TO THE COVER. GO BACK TO Toby's not even on the cover, bro. Go back. >> You're right. Yo, you're right. >> TOBY'S NOT EVEN ON the [ __ ] cover, bro. >> Yo, you're right. You're right. >> Stop, Tom. >> You know why I forgot he was in it? Why? Because the book The Great Gatsby >> Toby is playing the guy who's the star of the book. >> I didn't know that. >> Exact. See, I'm not I'm tired of explaining Leo in the GREAT GATSBY OR MAKE >> Toby playing in the Great Gatsby. Who is he? >> Uh Tom, what's his name? >> Holland. >> Toby wants to play Toby wants to play Tom Holland in the Bible. >> What's Tom? What's his name? >> Oh, there he is. He's Nick. He's >> Scott Fitzgerald or >> No, no, no. Nick Carowway. Nick Carowway. >> Listen, I'm not [ __ ] on Toby cuz I'm looking forward to seeing Toby in Doomsday. All I'm saying is Tom Holland is the greatest Spider-Man of all time. >> No, he might be. He might be, but you were acting like Toby was trash. >> NO, NO, NO, NOT TRASH. YOU CAN'T [ __ ] WITH TOM. >> That's fine. If you can't [ __ ] with Tom, >> but wait, you were A HALL OF FAMER. >> THANK YOU. >> YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? THAT'S all I'm saying. >> But then you there's levels to the Hall of Fame. >> Not everybody could be Jordan. >> That's all I'm saying. That's fine. You were trying to act like he was trash. >> No, no, no. Not trash. Just not Tom. >> He was the best Spider-Man until Tom H. >> That I can deal with. >> And Tom's done four of them. >> That doesn't make an interesting pod conversation. What makes an interesting pod conversation is what he said initially. That's what makes it fun. >> Listen, he's done four of them, bro. And listen, I like Let me Let me Let me I like the new Spider-Man. >> Yeah. If you're not a fan of comic books, Oh, no. If you're a fan of comic books, you'll probably enjoy it. If you're not a fan of If you're not a fan of the MCU and you're just a casual person going to see a movie, it is a great movie. It's entertaining. It's action-packed. But if you are a stick stickler like me, it's too much going on, bro. >> What you mean? >> It's too much going on. There's too much going on. And it's [ __ ] that it's [ __ ] that Marvel's doing that I just don't agree with. You can't just introduce Gan Gray, bro. >> Yes, you can. >> No, you can't. Yes, you can. How? >> They just now got the rights for to introduce X-Men to Marvel. So, you're not going to do it when they're already grown. So, the only way to do it now, this is her. She just got her powers not too long ago. She hasn't even met Professor X. >> They haven't They haven't even told us how they ended up in the 616. You can't take a Omega level mutant, one of the founders of the X-Men, and just put him in a Spider-Man movie. And when you listen to Kevin Feige and Kevin Feige tells you how they they they decided at the LA she was the last person. >> But that was one of the big development changes that we kept going through was who is the bad guy. There was one version of a bad guy, then another version of a bad guy. Then a version essentially of of this bad guy um that was revealed to be a very obscure character nobody ever heard of. And and it just wasn't it wasn't satisfying. And that might be what Tom was talking about because he said, "Well, what about this character?" And I said, "Well, we can't use this character, but and knowing that all of the the the journey that Peter was going on has to culminate in his confrontation with the villain at the end." That's when Jean starts to come up. Start a young a young person very similar in age to Peter, maybe a little younger. Peter again, who I just said, had a mentor in each of the other Spider movies. and seeing a a a young person who did not have a mentor. Seeing a young person who has powers like Peter did, but didn't have an aunt man, they didn't have anybody to help guide to help guide her. Um, and that is what led and the origin story of Gan Gray in the in the comics before Xavier finds her before she joins the X-Men does have something to do with her sister and something to do with her not not controlling her powers. And that is when it really came together. And then our co-producer Emily Fong sitting around the table said, "What about Satie Sync?" And we all went, "Okay, it's Gan Gray. Let's get it." And that's what that's what >> like they were going to go with like Mind uh Mind Worm or somebody. They just they just wanted a villain that had powers to take over people's minds and that you turn that into Gan Gray. >> Yeah, but they're going to put the X-Men in Spider-Man's universe. >> I I see what they're doing. I don't like it cuz what they're trying to do is they're going to they're going to make it to where the snap. Did you see who they thought we was going to play for Mineworm? >> Oh, Mineworm in your mouth. >> Child, when you get intense, that's when he knows when to go to you. Like, >> he loves comic books too much. His curiosity got the better. Now you got mom worm in your mouth. >> Well, you watching New Work Star, New Rock Stars or something. Okay, but they're going to they're going to try to make it seem like the X gene was activated because of the snap or something, right? So that's where all of these mutants came from. That is whack, bro. You can't have this whole 10 plus years, 15 plus years of Avengers and all this stuff and give us the X-Men after the fact in the world in the Earth 616. >> You got to give them a little grace because they didn't have access to the X-Men characters. >> I don't care. They could have introduced the X-Men the same way they introduced the Fantastic 4. They could have been in a whole other universe. Now you got incursions coming. They could have still been young and all of that [ __ ] like that and then the worlds could have came together. The way they doing that [ __ ] now is whack. Where did Punisher and Spider-Man become friends? When did that happen? >> And why THE [ __ ] DID ALL WHY WERE ALL OF THOSE SUPERHEROES in New York and nobody helped Daredevil's blind ass? Daredevil was getting his ASS KICKED ALL UP AND down New York City. Punisher couldn't show up. Spider-Man couldn't show up. The new Avengers couldn't show up. >> He said that. Yo, you deal with lowlevel stuff and we deal with upper level stuff. don't mention them. They mention Spider-Man in Daredevil in in in in uh this Spider-Man movie. There's a poster of Kingpin in the background or something like that. >> Spider-Man's in between. He does low level stuff and then the Avengers tapped him down one mission. >> Don't like it. >> Come on. Savage Hulk shows up for this [ __ ] but can't show up for Infinity War or Endgame. >> This was the best version of Hulk. >> BUT WHY WASN'T HE WHY DIDN'T YOU BECOME THE BEST VERSION OF YOURSELF AND WE NEEDED YOU? >> This [ __ ] is kind of crazy. >> I have a question though. Mhm. >> Why Dan Far giving it away? >> [ __ ] It's a great movie. It was >> I'm not I'm not going to sit here and act like it's not a great movie. >> Was it not the best Spider-Man movie? >> It's No, it's not. >> Name one Spider-Man movie. >> The one before that one was better. >> Nope. >> You don't think so? >> The one before had all the Incursions, all that extra [ __ ] We ain't need all No, no. This one It had This one checked every single box. >> You know what he wants to say? I know one you want to say. >> Second one. >> I know. The original with Toby is the one. I know you want to say this white man movie. I don't know. That's a good question. >> Why did Jean Spider-Man did not know who Jean Gray was though, right? >> No. >> So why did she come in like, "Oh, you still can't sense where I am." Like they knew each other already. I didn't like I didn't understand that part. >> Oh, cuz his power was malfunctioning. And so when his power was malfunctioning when he's like the hormones are changing, you know that he couldn't sense the way he was sensing her. >> Yeah. But she was talking to him like they knew each other already though. No, it was just like she was thrown off like why are you the only person who's able to see when I'm jumped into somebody's body? >> Well, she didn't know him cuz she went to his head a little bit. So, she knew a little she knew a little bit of >> but also Spider-Man had nothing to do with what she was trying to get either though. Like it's very >> Spider-Man was getting in her way. Spider-Man didn't know that she was actually trying to get her sister. >> Yeah. >> He didn't know that's what she was looking for. >> Who's her sister? >> Um Sarah Gray. Once again, they're just introducing [ __ ] mutants to the to the [ __ ] >> Sarah G. Sarah Gray was in the comics, but she just wasn't. >> No, no, I'm saying they're just introducing these mutants to the MCU and not that would have been >> giving us no explanation. TELL US WHY THE [ __ ] he was mutating the way he was mutating. >> Yeah, that's [ __ ] HE [ __ ] STARTED SQUIRTING all over the place. >> Yes, they did. He was going through puberty. >> No, but all they said was his arachnid DNA was [ __ ] acting up. How >> they show us that, hey, this is the lifespan of a spider. So, this is going to happen to him in his lifetime. >> That shit's silly, bro. >> Oh, you wasn't paying attention, bro. That [ __ ] silly. >> That [ __ ] was phenomenal. >> And by the way, in the comic book, I've seen that they did a better And I I know you can't, you know, be be right on par with the comic books, but at least give me a little bit more detail. At least show me a little bit. That would have been a good way to explain mutation cuz they could have said, "Yo, there was something that happened from Hulk was there. Hulk lived through all of that." Both of them did. They could have said it was something from the snap that's causing mutations. Now you're like, "Oh, okay. Now I see why Gan Gray is here." They just said, "Here, here's some fun [ __ ] Here's Punisher. Here's Jean Gray. Here's the Hulk. Here's a lot of action." It was good. >> No complaints. Great. You're going to love it if you go see it. But as a comic book guy, as a Marvel Cinematic Universe guy, a lot more questions. >> The only thing The only thing I agree is yes, they should have did X-Men in a different universe. I agree. I agree with that one. >> That [ __ ] is too much. Why did they introduce it here? So that in Doomsday it could make sense >> probably. >> I don't even know how this [ __ ] connects to Doomsday. >> I think they did it because they know how big this movie is going to be. And so let me introduce people into the X-Men by putting them on our >> I don't think they anticipated this, bro. Almost a billion dollars in a weekend. >> It's the second highest grossing movie of all time. >> Last one did crazy like that, too. >> But a billion a weekend, Alex, >> I mean almost a billion a weekend is crazy. Cheat, though. They did kind of cheat. Why? >> Because they did a early preview to the movie on Wednesday. So they got two extra roll out. >> Bro, this is how big of a star Tom Holland is. >> The movie theater I went to, literally every theater was showing Spider-Man, different variations of Spider-Man, RPX version, 3D version, standard version. Like they had show I mean it was just rolling show show. Tom Holland and Zenaia, if you ask me, two biggest stars in Hollywood, and it's not even close. >> I think you're right. >> I mean, Zenaia quite possibly is going to be in three billion dollar movies this year. She still got [ __ ] Doom 3 coming out. >> Yo, that's going to be the crazy. >> You see what I'm saying? >> Well, Tom still got Doomsday coming out. >> I don't know if he's in that. >> Why would he not be in it? Spider-Man, >> they they haven't announced that he's going to be in it. >> But why would his character not be in the movie that he was a huge part of Avengers? They're making it seem like he's not going to be in it. >> He'll probably be in Secret Wars, but I don't Secret Wars. >> I don't I don't know if he'll be in Toby's in Doomsday though. >> What's Secret Wars? >> Secret Wars. The sequel to Doomsday. >> Yeah, >> Toby is definitely in Doomsday. They said Toby's actually in the opening scene. >> Really? >> Yeah. From what I from what from some of this I don't know if these scripts are real, but he's in actually one of the opening scenes. >> I'm not lying. Yo, I promise you. Look it up, Taylor. I'm not making THIS UP. I WATCH NEW ROCK STARS. A LOT OF IT. I watch the rock. They They said Toby's going quite possibly going to be in the opening scene. They said that that was the end credit scene of >> Spider-Man. They said that's what that represented. >> They did it. The end credit scene was uh preview the Secret Wars. >> Which one? >> When Doom transports everybody into outer space, >> maybe. Or they said that uh that was cuz the the the Spider-Man stayed in Queens. It didn't move. I don't think. What's the lore to to Doom? >> Dr. Doom. He was the strongest. But what's the lore to him? >> He's not really a bad guy. Technically, he just thinks that the world would be a better place if he ruled it. >> But what is how does he have power? How did he come up? >> Science and magic. >> So, he blends technology and magic. >> And how did he come up? Like, did he come up with anybody that we know? Were they friends as kids and then they separated? Like, who Fantastic 4? Oh, he >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. He lived a fantastic >> him and like Richard, what's his what's uh his last name? Whatever. >> Reed. Reed. Reed. >> They're like the two smartest people in the world. >> Got it. And they knew each other as kids. >> Yeah. >> Or like high school or college, one of >> And then they they Reed Richards. So that So this is kind of like Magneto and Professor X in a way. Yes. Is that Marvel's version of it? >> Yeah. >> Got it. >> Yeah. Born Victor von Doom in the fictional Eastern European nation of Lat Latavria. >> Lat how do you pronounce that? Liberia, I'm sorry. Liberia. He was raised in a poor romani family. His father Warner was a physician and his mother Cynthia was a powerful sorceress. Cynthia made a bargain with the demon Meisto for power to protect her people but lost her soul in the process. After both parents died while Victor was still a child, he became obsessed with two things. Becoming the greatest scientist in the world, freeing his mother's soul from Miss Meisto's realm. His brilliance earned him a scholarship to a university in the United States where he met Reed Richards, Mr. Fantastic. The two became academic rivals. Victor built a machine intended to communicate with the dead, but Reed warned him that his calculations were flawed. Victor ignored the warning. The machine exploded, horribly scarring his face rather than admit his own mistake. Victor blamed Reed Richards, becoming one of comics's greatest rivalries. It's going to be good. But I don't even like that. I don't even like how they [ __ ] introducing Dr. Doom. Yo, man, why not? >> Because, man, you can't just get to a Dr. Doom. You gotta lead up to a Dr. Doom the same way they gave us a slow roll of Thanos over the last decade. Like there is no I'm gonna be honest with you. There's nothing about the Marvel universe in this phase where we should be getting a Dr. Doom movie. >> We should be getting a Kane. >> Seriously, we should be getting they should have just recasted Kane. We should not be getting a Dr. Doom right now. >> I don't think Kang has enough juice. >> Yeah, it didn't have enough juice. >> I didn't know who the [ __ ] Kane was. >> And Ant-Man. Nobody liked it. >> No, Ant-Man. people [ __ ] with. They watched They made a billion dollars that movie. >> But people didn't like the whole Kang. >> Oh, they're watching for Paul Rudd. >> Bro, Earth is so sweet right now. Earth is so sweet right now that the superheroes in New York can just kick their feet up and let a blind lawyer run around New York City and try to protect it. All of those [ __ ] superheroes were in New York. The Hulk, the Avengers, Spider-Man, Punisher, and they sent Jessica Jones going through menopause. to [ __ ] help Daredevil. She was going through menopause so much that her powers would work sometimes. >> Yeah. >> On and off. What the [ __ ] are we talking about, guys? >> They dealing with lowlevel criminals. Avengers dealing with lowle criminal >> compared to >> Okay, so Daredevil was fighting the hand. >> Okay, >> Spider-Man was fighting the hand. Where was you when Daredevil needed a hand against the hand >> and fighting Spider-Man? Nah, come on. >> Damn. >> Come on, John. >> I'm saying all that to say >> Tom Holland and Zenaia are the biggest stars in Hollywood. >> I don't think anybody would refute that. What I'm saying is I'm I'm curious to see what happens when Tom has got to lead a movie that has no >> He led Odyssey. >> Yo, >> you're being disrespectful. >> Okay. Okay. >> You're being disrespectful. >> All right. Who was in Odyssey? >> Matt Damon. Matt Damon and Hathaway. When the last time Matt did a Billy >> uh Interstellar or not Interstellar, The Martian >> years ago. >> No, hold on. Let me look at Matt's. >> I don't even know. I don't know if The Martian did a Billy. Tom H. Three people in [ __ ] Odyssey are in another billion dollar movie this week, guys. >> There's a billionaire boys club in the Odyssey, and it ain't Matt Damon. Okay. >> Oh, man. >> It ain't Travis Scott. It ain't Elliot Paige. >> Yeah, but >> it ain't Charlie Terron. This is the thing. >> Ain't Robert Patterson and ain't Ant had tow. >> Oh, I'm sorry. My bad. My bad. Um, uh, there was a little movie that Matt was in called, uh, Oppenheimer. I don't know if you heard of that. That >> [ __ ] That was two YEARS AGO. >> SHOUT OUT TO THE Jewish community. Yo, what are you TALKING ABOUT? OH, YEAH. YOU GOING TO GIVE HIM CREDIT FOR OPPENHEIMER. You tell one you tell a story, a historical story. Of course, people going to show up. >> Oh, come on, man. I I'm I I don't even know what I'm doing right now because it's every episode. Every episode what this podcast is, it's a literal shoehorn is we will start here close. We will go as far away as possible and then by the end he will just say the first thing that he disagreed with me about and that is every conversation we have. >> All I'm saying is >> you tell me >> is there NOT A BILLIONAIRE? YO, >> YOU TELL ME. IS THERE NOT A BILLIONAIRE BOYS CLUB IN THE Odyssey that ran it back a week later? The Odyssey just came out two weeks ago and hit a billy. Now Zenaia freaking uh Tom and John ran it back for another Billy. >> No, it's it's great. >> Matt Damon wishes, bro. >> Robert Patterson wishes. >> Robert Patterson's in Dune. He's going to run it back for a Billy. You know why Tom better than Robert? >> What? >> Clearly >> Robert ain't get Robert Robert got a franchise with a superhero and ain't popped it off like Tom. >> Say it again. Robert >> Robert got a franchise of a iconic superhero Batman and ain't popped it off like T. >> Okay. Well, what I would say is >> what I would say is I want you to look at the numbers for Twilight. >> Then I want you THE GAY VAMPIRE. >> WE'RE NOT DONE YET. WE'RE NOT DONE YET. GAY VAMPIRE. >> WE'RE NOT DONE YET. I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT THE NUMBERS FOR TWILIGHT. Then I want you to look at the numbers. Isn't that gay vampires? >> Then I want you to LOOK AT NUMBERS. WAIT for it. Wait for it. For Harry Potter, >> Robert Patterson was in Harry Potter. >> You're not even a fan. I don't even know why I'm talking Harry Potter. >> I don't even know why I'M TALKING MOVIES. >> ROBERT PATTERSON WASN'T IN HARRY POTTER. >> I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHY I'M TALKING MOVIES WITH YOU. >> GET THE [ __ ] >> I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHY I'M TALKING LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DANIEL RADCLIFFE or somebody, man. >> I don't even know why I'm talking MOVIES WITH YOU. YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO'S IN MOVIES. >> STOP. Twilight was gay vampires. They sucked each other's dicks to live forever. Man, nobody got time for this [ __ ] You talking, bro. >> You know what's mad? You know what's crazy? >> I was trying to find a way to hate on Tom and I can't even do it. That's how good he is. >> No, Tom is I tried. As soon as I was like, I got to keep the street going. Nothing to hate on. >> The only knock you could ever say on Tom is has he been positioned with a movie where he has to be the draw. Spider-Man is going to get a certain amount of draw. Oppenheimer is going to get a certain >> Odyssey. Yo, come on. Yo, we went to go see the Odyssey because of Tom, Zenaia, and John. Yo, just face it, Schultz. I didn't even know Matt Damon was in that [ __ ] bro. AND I KNEW TOM WAS IN THAT [ __ ] CUZ I SAW THE interviews Tom did when Tom said, "Yo, whatever Christopher Nolan is doing, Marvel, y'all need to get on board." I was like, "OH SHIT." I didn't even know [ __ ] Matt Damon was in that [ __ ] >> Really? >> Nah, bro. Not at all, >> bro. >> Didn't Matt do something with you? >> [ __ ] you, bro. That was Matt's greatest moment. Listen, listen, listen. Matt hasn't done nothing that great since the since the ODYSSEY WAS THE CLOSEST THING. All right. The Odyssey was the closest [ __ ] thing, bro. And yo, >> he literally left the next day after filming that promo >> for the special with me. He left the next day to go film the Odyssey. >> If Matt sold fire >> Yeah. What? >> Why? >> Christopher Nolan to draw. Christopher Nolan and Tom Holland is the reason Christopher Nolan is the biggest thing in Hollywood. He's bigger than any actor. He's bigger than any producer. He's bigger than any studio. Christopher Nolan is the biggest thing in Hollywood. No question about it. >> Yeah, but Tom Holland makes him bigger, bro. Tom Holland in the Odyssey. Tom Holland. Him standing next to Tom. Whoever Whoever sent me that DM about how Charlotte was going to hate on Tom Holland, I just want to let you know he's he saw it. >> No hate for Tom. >> He's doing his best to now celebrate the white boy of the month. >> No hate for Tom Holland, but Tom Holland makes it easy for me to hate on all the other white guys. >> Yo, Tom, >> Robert Patterson, not even close. Toby Maguire, not even close. Timothy Charlemagne, please. Yo, Tom Holland, if you didn't if you didn't have a British accent and you were a swaggy like white boy from America, he would be hating you so much. >> Best role Timothy Charlemagne played in years was the role the uh role of a Knicks fan. >> Okay. Role of a Knicks fan was better than Marty Supreme. What else was he in? What was the Ping Paddle movie? What's the [ __ ] called? >> Ping Paddle. Marty Supreme. Wasn't he the new Charlie in the Chocolate Factory guy, too? >> Yeah, I ain't watch that. >> Look, garbage. What else going on, man? >> Wait, why you on Marvel? What do y'all think about the new Black Panther? >> I trust Ryan Cougler. >> Let me ask you this honest question. >> Yeah, >> 100% honest. >> Yeah. >> Would you be comfortable with Tom Holland being Black Panther? >> What? >> Why would he be in there? >> Is Black Panther Is Tom Holland good enough for you? I mean, there was a white guy that was a Black Panther at one point. >> Would do you think that he's good enough to pull it off? >> I don't want I don't want that in my superheroes. Like, I want like even when they're talking about now having the black Magneto and black Professor X, I don't want that. I want make Magneto Jewish like he's always been Professor X handicap. You know what I'm saying? Like, I want that's the X-Men is the I was literally having this conversation this morning. X-Men is the one superhero film that they don't have to do any diversity to cuz it's already diverse. Yeah. Yeah. >> They got everything you want. Black people, Asian people, handicaps. >> I'm sure people have asked this question, but like Professor X has the ability to like move his chair with his mind. >> Yeah. >> Why doesn't he move his legs with his >> I don't know. I really don't. >> Not like that must be a question people ask. >> It's actually crazy. I really don't know. Yo, >> what are his legs made out of? >> Float. >> Why doesn't he just float? You know what I'm saying? Or go possess somebody that can walk >> that >> you can do that too. You know what I mean? Like it's just I don't I don't I don't know. I don't know. I don't want no white black panthers. >> What about black Spider-Man? >> We have one. Miles Morales. >> I know. Do you think that's going to That's >> Oh, yeah. It's on the way. >> He's Puerto Rican. >> Well, Puerto Rican and black. He's black and Puerto Rican. Zafro Latino. >> He's Puerto Rican. >> So, is that's on the way. That's absolutely on the way. They got one more Spiderverse movie which is going to do crazy numbers and then they say they're going to introduce the live action Miles Morales. Tom Holland say that's actually who he wants to pass the torch to. >> Oh wow. >> I saw but that's what I was saying. >> I know. >> There was a follow that don't follow Tom. Don't follow like that. Huh? >> There was a cover not right in the hell >> of There was a cover I saw with Spider-Man I guess. Best New wasn't Brand New Day. And if you look closely, there's like a shoe mark of Miles. >> No, it's not. >> Yeah, it is. >> That's some sit the internet made up. >> A shoe mark? Why would there be a shoe mark of Miles? >> Cuz everybody knows the Miles. Uh the ones. >> Yeah, that's what it was. >> Maybe. I don't [ __ ] know. What else we got, man? What else going on? >> Wait, where do you rank it in terms of Marvel movies? Marvel movies. >> Yeah, Marvel. Yep. >> I I don't know. I don't think I rank it. >> You rank it now. >> It's not connected to nothing. See, this is what I got to do. I got to stop going into Marvel movies looking for continuity. Like, none of this [ __ ] has had any continuity over the last seven, eight years. The reason I can't rank it over any of the original uh Infinity Saga movies is because all of those movies had continuity. Like, I can't put this over Endgame, Infinity War, Civil War. I can't put it over none of the Avenger movies. I I can't like I just I I don't know where I would rank it. I can't put it over the Black Panther. I I don't know, bro. >> Like I don't I don't know. It's just a good movie. It's good, but it's it's good. >> It's a good movie that doesn't feel like it's connected to anything. At least now. Maybe later it might we might connected Tissue. >> You can't give it up. >> The what? >> If Tom is as great as you say, why can't you just give it up to the movie that you saw? Um because Tom, see Tom can he's carrying a film like this. You know what I'm saying? So he can be in a film that may not be necessarily Where do you rank it before I even say what do you rank it? >> Probably top five. >> Okay. He thinks it's top five. I don't >> He thinks it's top five of all Marvel, not just top five Spider-Man. >> Yeah. No, it's it's top one Spider-Man and then it's top five Marvel. I put Endgame Endgame Infinity War Civil War >> and then probably Ragnarok. And then I'm putting >> I thought you like Black Panther though. >> It's really good. But it's good in the way of >> Black Panther would be in probably top 10. >> It's crazy that you didn't put any Guardians movies in there. >> Guardians. >> Those Guardians went on fire too. >> I I think we don't even consider Guardians part of it. >> Fire. Like Guardians feels like its own thing. Even though it is connected in Marvel like >> Yeah. >> outside of when you the like Avengers shits, we don't even really consider Marvel for some reason. >> Yeah. >> But it's incredible. Which is crazy because all the Spider-Man movies, the comp would be the Guardian movies. >> Yeah, >> cuz they're light, they're campy, they're fun. >> So far of the Spider-Mans I've seen, they're not [ __ ] with Guardians. >> Guardians on a different level, bro. >> Really? >> Guardians. >> Guardians on a different level. I can't get past the raccoon. >> The raccoon is the Come on now. >> And this thing is weird. >> Like >> I do. I think it's weird having a raccoon with a gun. >> It's not weird. A green girl. But that's because aren't they aren't they part of space? So like why is a raccoon in space? >> Nah, she makes a good point. >> He would be offended if you called him a raccoon. >> Superhero. >> I know that. >> But he is though. That's what he is. >> Superhero movie, man. I don't want to hear nothing about wokeness or none of that [ __ ] in superhero movie. I don't want to hear about what's real in a movie where [ __ ] are flying. Bro, >> it's a superhero movie. >> Y'ALL JUST QUESTION WHY THAT GUY. >> YOU KNOW WHAT'S EVEN CRAZIER ABOUT THESE MOVIES? HOW THE [ __ ] do they breathe in space? >> Exactly. >> Nobody ever questions how Spider-Man, Iron Man, Chris Evans breathe in space. They're all humans. >> No, I can see that. >> No, they had the helmet. They always have something on. >> I know they don't. They get on them ships and they mask come right off. >> Yeah, but on the ship there's oxygen. >> Not in the alien ship. >> Yeah. >> Remember when they snuck in on the alien ship? How? The aliens clearly don't I don't know what the [ __ ] the aliens breathe. >> Yeah, you don't. >> So, once again, why are we trying to figure that? It's a [ __ ] movie. It's a superhero movie. Who gives a [ __ ] I'm just saying. This is what happens when YOU TRY TO MAKE >> JUST COMPLAIN ABOUT WHY WE TRY TO FIGURE OUT. >> I KNOW, MAN. This is what happens when you try to make sense of superhero movies. Okay. It's a [ __ ] superhero movie. Let the superheroes be superheroes. Look at these pitiful numbers that Robert Patterson did with Twilight. I can't even believe he even pulled those [ __ ] up. >> Yeah. What are they? Read them out. >> Are you crazy? >> Read them out. Read them out. Read them out. 137 million worldwide. >> Second one. Yo, >> the second one is >> um yo, >> the second one is >> 709.8 million. >> Third one is >> all time. >> That doesn't mean that they were did that in a weekend. >> Third one is >> 698.5 million worldwide all times and that's been since 2010. >> Fourth one is >> 712. Fifth one is that was 2011. >> No, hold on. Fifth one is 829. Now I want you to run those numbers through inflation. >> Yes. >> Yo, >> and I want you to tell me what that's worth now. But listen, >> I want YOU TO TELL ME WHAT in 2009 right AFTER THE FINANCIAL [ __ ] LOST EVERYTHING AND THEY WENT IN DEBT TO GO SEE THEY RAN up these numbers for it took 23 years to get to this number. >> Tom Holland did it in 48 [ __ ] hours, bro. >> What's she talking about? >> But you got to you got >> Tom Holland did over a billion 48 hours inflation. Also inflation buying a ticket back then a ticket for the movies was like $7. How difficult IS IT NOW? >> NOW IT'S $20 TO GO TO A MOVIE. >> SO TOM, HOW HARD IS THE [ __ ] GOAT? >> THE OPPOSITE IF YOU KNOW MATH. >> What do you mean? You said the TICKETS WERE CHEAPER CHEAPER BACK THEN. >> CORRECT. SO YOU GOT TO SELL MORE TICKETS TO MAKE THAT MONEY. >> NO. >> First of all, >> I know, right? >> The tickets were all Nobody Nobody's going to the movies now. Tom brought people back to the movies two weeks in a row. >> Did Did you just see what he did? >> Yes. Yo, he just said he just said he brought him back two weeks >> because I'm acknowledged and I know it's three, but [ __ ] that. It's about cuz I know it's cuz my body won't let me lie. How do I know it's three? >> How do I argue with that? >> Because I know it's three, but for the sake of the argument, I got to say two weeks in a row. >> You see what I mean? >> I don't even know. Do y'all know what I have to go through? >> Cuz I don't know if my ears and my eyes >> My body won't let me lie. I threw up three cuz I know it's three weeks, but for the sake of the argument, I had to say two. >> But you up. >> 829 a million in 2012 is about 1.2 billion today. >> All right. Tom Holland did that. >> No, they they didn't. >> Tom Holland did almost a billion this weekend. >> Almost a billion. What if the movie falls off a cliff? No. First of all, first of all, LOOK THIS UP. WHAT'S THE highest grossing box office film of all time? >> If Spider-Man's number two, what's number one? >> Avatar. >> Probably Avatar, right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Probably one of the Avatar. I was thinking Avatar Spider. I was thinking Spider-Man. I mean Star Wars, one of the Avatars I was thinking. >> No, Avatar and then Titanic. >> Yeah, Avatar. >> Avatar, right? Which one? First one. >> This is every James Cameron joint is basically it. >> Shout out to [ __ ] Tom Holland, man. The goat. >> This podcast be brought to you by Squarespace. Squarespace is the all-in-one website platform designed to help you stand out, succeed online, whether you're just starting out scaling your business. Squarespace gives you everything you need to claim your domain, showcase your offering, offerings with professional website, grow your brand, and get paid all in one place. Squarespace makes it easy to monetize your content by selling access to online courses, blogs, videos, and memberships. 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Um, to switch it all the way over, >> why why does that say transgender dolls? >> Did y'all see? No, I don't want to see. >> What happened? >> So, there's >> What are they? Autobots. >> Transgender. >> What is it? What is a transgender doll? >> First of their kind. Transgender dolls are set to debut in Minnesota classrooms this fall. The taxpayer funded paper dolls come with genitalia that can be removed and then swapped out. A therapist at the University of Minnesota Medical tells the New York Post that they spent over a decade developing the dolls. The goal is to help kids quote learn about the different options. >> I'm not I don't even believe I I don't believe >> as a parent. I kind of like this. >> Tell me why. >> Cuz now you don't have to buy different dolls for your kids if they're different genders. So you have a boy, he wants to play with a boy. Then you wait, why do we even show the genitalia of the dolls? When did we even do that? We were growing up. There was no genitalia on the dog. >> Yeah, it was nothing. >> Okay. I'm shocked Bobby even had titties, but she didn't have nipples. >> Bobby didn't even have nipples. Okay. Ken didn't have a dick. >> He didn't have >> You don't even have to see. Like, why? What's the point of this, guys? Like, this is >> I really I really can't believe >> or bait rage. What's the term? >> Rage bait. I can't believe we're back on the trans stuff again. I I literally couldn't believe it with the WNBA [ __ ] I couldn't believe we're back in the same conversation. It feels like I'm in some like bizarro, what is that Bill Murray movie, Groundhog Day, where it's just like every 3 or four years the same topic comes up and everybody is performatively outraged by it. >> Now, I didn't hear exactly what Sophia Cunningham said. But the gist of it is she doesn't want biological men playing in women's, >> but I thought we all figured that out. Like I I thought we all came to the conclusion that it's not hateful to say that there's a genetic advantage for certain people. Well, I always said it should be one per team, >> but that's before the WNBA was really, really exciting like it is now. This was I you can go back to early episodes of Brilliant Nas. I was saying it should be one transgender per WNBA team. They don't need them now. WNBA smoking [ __ ] like that's I love the WNBA. >> Right. Right. No, that's a good point. That's I was about to take it serious and then I was like I'm not we're not here for that. We're not here for that. >> No. 15 years ago. >> We're not HERE FOR THAT. I WAS going to take it serious. I almost took the bait. >> Listen, 12. >> You almost rage, baby. >> 10, 12 years ago, they might have needed one transgender per team. >> One. >> You know what I'm saying? Just one. Just the one to make it exciting. Now, they don't need it. They don't need it. They got Olivia Miles. They got the Asia Wilson's, you got the Caitlyn Clarks, you got the Angel Reese's. >> I know the point you're making. >> They out there balling. >> Yeah, I know the point you're making, but Yeah. Go on. Go on. >> And the and the and the league is so good. The women are cheating on each other. They getting divorced. Britney Grind is on her second divorce. >> Fire >> with three kids. >> Fire. >> You know what I'm saying? >> Three kids. >> Leaving broken homes everywhere. >> They're undressing Paige at the WNBA Allstar game. You didn't see them telling they bullied her to take her shirt off. You didn't see that [ __ ] Now she's just chilling in a sports bra with a jacket on. >> No, man. >> Yeah. Leave that girl alone. >> [ __ ] Yo, they throwing dildos on the court. WNBA is popping. WNBA got everything it needs to continue to be a prosperous. >> Yo, why have they never Why have they never taken one of those like smelling dogs? >> Oh my god. >> Cuz you know when they threw the dildos and they're like, "We don't know who threw it." Take the smelling dog, have them smell the dildo, and then smell throughout the arena. >> But it'll be confusing, man. Cuz I know they sell tuna in the arena. >> The dog will be confused as [ __ ] Like seriously, the dog would be so [ __ ] confused. >> Spin around a circle. See what I'm saying? Half court spin around. >> Listen, all I'm simply saying is the WNBA has everything it needs to continue to be a prosperous league. Number one, they have a great product that they're putting on that floor. And number two, they got all the drama. WNBA storylines are better than NBA storylines. Yo, >> facts. >> What's the drama going on in the NBA? >> There's no drama. >> None. WE STILL [ __ ] LEBRON GOING TO THE SIX. LEBRON GOING TO NEW teams is still >> Come on, bro. >> People talking about >> That's the biggest story. >> What's the biggest story? >> LeBron to the Sixers. >> I don't I mean >> Nixon six. >> Nixon. >> It's okay. It's okay being a one-term president. There's no shame in that. >> People are going to look back at Biden better than it feels right now. I almost had a magical run. >> I'm happy for you. I'm pleased. >> I didn't know he was talking [ __ ] about me. >> Hold on. I know how to be I just caught it now. Hold up. >> Let me sit up, man. >> I'm I I feel nice to Chris now cuz he brought his daughter last week and I realized like Chris is a real human being, man. He have like a grown ass daughter. >> Got a grown daughter. >> Teasing this guy. >> Grown daughter. >> I can't do this. >> Raised a Sixers fan. >> And this is a this is a lesson in authenticity. This is a lesson in resilience. Yeah. >> For who? >> For me. Oh. >> When the Knicks made their run. >> Yeah. >> I've lived in New York City for a long time. >> Yeah. >> People said to me, "Come on, man. Stop being a hater." >> Yeah. >> Enjoy it. >> Go to the watch parties. Celebrate. >> No. You said no. >> I said last round they came to my city. >> They stomped on the jerseys. They disrespected. That's not what being a true fan is about. >> Andrew, you've lived in different cities. >> Yes. Am I going to find any pictures of you out there in the heat jersey and the heat? Not a single one. >> Am I going to find you in anything? >> You don't do that. You don't switch it up. >> No, you I respect that. I respect that. >> You don't switch it up. Even when the entire city is flowing in the other direction, you stand and look >> 10 toes down. >> It looked very dark a month ago. It looked very dark for us a month ago. >> Why? You had Jaylen Brown. >> No, even [ __ ] Ty Tyrese Maxi. We had Maxi, >> VJ, >> VJ, Embiid, and a broken down George. And then something happened. >> What happened? >> We got Jaylen Brown. And I said, "This feels different. I'm not used to this feeling." >> And then what else happened? >> And then in his wisdom, the GOAT looked around the league. He surveyed the league. >> He was waiting for this. >> I knew this is good. The goat surveyed the league and he said, >> "What's the one fan base that stood >> 10 toes down?" >> Oh, >> what's the one fan base that deserves my presence? >> What's the one fan base that didn't switch it up and flock >> Yeah. >> like everybody else to the front row of MSG? >> What's the one fan base where if I bring my talents to that city, >> they deserve the difference I'm going to make? >> Yeah. >> And in his wisdom, >> is that how you talk in your mind? >> He looked around. He said the Philadelphia 76ers. >> Right. Right. You know, >> and now I'm very happy for you guys. >> Yeah. >> It was a beautiful moment in time, but it's just going to be a moment. >> You think that >> So, you think the Sixers about to take it off? >> Taylor, who are you? >> I'm not a I'm sorry. I'm not I wasn't raised to be a Sixers fan. >> I understand. Where were you born? Where were you raised? >> P. Philadelphia. >> Upper Derby. >> No. Stop getting it wrong. It's not Upper Derby. I know there are some dark moments and you slandered the goat, but now's the moment. No, >> I already said, look, I said if he gives PA a ring or PA, if he gives Philly a ring, I respect him a lot more in a sense. >> You know, you know, the New York Knicks are the reason that LeBron James went to Philadelphia because I believe >> why you say that? because he wanted to play in New York and he saw the love that a team like the Knicks can get when they bring a championship to a team a city that's been starved of a championship. There's only like two for real. I'm just I could be completely wrong, but I believe there's only like two maybe three completely basketball cities in America. New York, >> I'm going to say three. >> Philly and Boston. >> And I'm going to give LA just a little bit. Yeah, they have a pretty strong basketball if you really look at it. You really look at it. >> But nobody's from LA. That's what I say. It's like everybody moves to LA, so you you're pretending to be a Lakers fan. >> I'm talking about the Paul uh the Paul Pierces, guys like that. There are a lot of guys who really the Westbrooks, the Hardies. >> I don't know if Philly is a basketball town. >> Philadelphia is a basketball town. >> Can I Can I make an argument? >> Philadelphia is a basketball. Sure. >> I think Philly is a bigger football town. Yes. >> Than it is basketball. >> But it roots are >> thought that about the New York too. >> No, but what I would say nobody in New York City, you got to understand, nobody in New York City, not a single one of us growing up >> put on football pads or a helmet. >> Yeah. >> Or we have no understanding of football. Like the idea of playing football in high school is like absurd to all of us. We played one sport. You played baseball when you were a kid in little league. When your parents would take you out to Randles Island, but outside of that, you never touched the baseball. We played one sport. It's basketball. It's the only sport this town cares about. >> Phillyy's close to that, though. >> I would say >> Phillyy's the closest. >> Philly's close to that. But Philly got a relationship with the Eagles that like a college town has with their team. >> Let me give you a counter to that. I agree with you. There's no question the Eagles are the number one team in the city. And a lot of that is because they've been successful. But this is the one difference between New York and Philly when it comes to basketball. >> Philly is a college basketball town. >> Philly has the big five. They have a 60 70 year old tradition of those teams going at each other and that keeps it alive. >> So they like college hoops. But for for for example, what I would say is like >> there's no style of a Philly basketball player. So, for example, you would never go, "Oh, yeah, he's a Philly style point guard or he's a Philly style in boxing." Philly boxes. Yeah. Style, right? Rod Strickling, Kenny Anderson, these classic New York City punk guarders, Kenny Smith. But I think all that stuff is out the window with the internet right now. I I can see the point. >> I'm just talking about culture pates. You know what a New York point guard is. Sebastian Telair, Stefon Marberry, these are like long legacies of point guards that go went to Banister or what was the other school out Lincoln or went to Christ the King. Like we got these institutions. Even our rappers hooped in high school. Cam was playing. Mace was playing. Like these >> Gilly played. >> Gilly played. Bro, >> I think Gilly plays better now. Shout out TO GILLY. GILLY MIGHT BE Shout out to Gilly. Yo, listen. I was looking at Gilly's. Somebody put out a tape of Gilly in high school. Gilly was smoking [ __ ] >> No, Gilly's Gilly's a good basketball player. >> Smoking [ __ ] >> But even Gilly I see as an Eagles fan. >> No, he didn't switch up. >> I not saying he switched up, but identitywise, >> he'll be more excited when the Sixers bring it home next year. Fair enough. >> I guarantee you the highest selling jersey ever in Philadelphia sports history was Alan Iverson. >> Yes. >> And probably and probably Dr. J number two. >> All right. So, let me tell you this. >> In all the sports, I bet you if you looked it up, Allen Iverson got the highest selling jersey in Philly history. All right. Sure. So, so here's the thing. Whip New Yorkers. >> Love it. >> Oh [ __ ] See what I'm saying? >> He pulled out the AI. Why are you walking around with a random >> Wait, why? >> Why? Well, why? Chris, >> it's time. >> I'll be Yo, Al, tell me if you think this thing is crazy. Tell me this thing is crazy. >> I don't even know if you grew up in New York City. This sounds crazy, but it might be true. Like, >> I don't even really know if you like football if you grew up in New York City. I think people in New York, it's it's Jersey and Long Island, >> maybe some like more far parts of Queens or Staten Island. >> Staten Island. >> Staten Island a little bit. But like cuz they actually have room to play football out there. They you could have the high schools going to have it. I think if you grew up in the city city, you like the Giants or the Jets or whatever, but it's not. >> Yeah. >> Like that's really a suburban thing to like football. So to to us, it's only basketball. Boston, I would say >> basketball to >> it's it's basketball because of the history of the Celtics >> and because the Patriots aren't necessarily in Boston. >> Well, to me, the Patriots are Boston. But here's the thing that I don't get with Boston. I never seen people playing basketball in Boston. I never seen a hoop somewhere. I never heard of a pickup and run. I never heard of like an iconic place where you could go play hoops. We got >> Somebody just stopped dribbling in Boston right now. They're listening to the brilliant idiots in their headphones. They're like, "What the [ __ ] IS ANDREW TALKING ABOUT?" >> And they're alone. They're in that park alone. There's nobody else. There's no other balls. >> Like homie from uh uh Above the Rim. >> That's it. That's it. Shadow balling. I'm just saying can you can like do people play if somebody told me that there's not a single place to play basketball in Boston outside of the Boston Garden or the TD or whatever it's called I would believe it in New York we have iconic >> pickup court >> pickup courts the Rucker Westforth the garden out in uh in Queens or whatever where like Marberry and Telare played in the projects or whatever they called that [ __ ] there's like iconic not even professional basketball >> sure Philly has Sunny Hill league >> you know what I just love >> nobody ever heard of Oh, come on. >> They said the highest selling jersey in Philly history is Chris. >> [ __ ] Bryce Harper. >> They said, >> but that's like what Andrew Bryce Harper Suburban guys suburban Philly >> number three jersey became the best selling jersey launch in the history of professional sports. >> Come on. What are we talking about? >> What the [ __ ] >> I'll be honest. I don't even think I don't even I would be shocked if y'all even knew the rules to basketball. Listen, >> let's not get Let's not Let's not get Let's not get Let's not get sidetracked right here. Let's not get sidracked right now. >> Gilly might be the best Philadelphiaian that's ever played basketball. You can't prove me otherwise. >> Homegrown talent. >> Yes. >> Tell me another homegrown talent from Philly. >> Well, >> CAN YOU NAME ONE NBA PLAYER FROM PHILLY? >> Rasheed Wallace. >> I can't believe you didn't say Kobe, by the way. >> I don't count Kobe cuz he was raised in Italy. >> All right, fair. So, give me one. Give me one raised in Philly. Well, you know, people say Will Chamberlain's one of the five greatest players of all time. >> Will over Brook High. What are we talking about? >> Oh, yeah. Yeah, you're right. >> Know that >> Wil I mean technically Wilt Kobe. >> Yeah, Kobe's in it. >> We're not counting Kobe. We're not really called Kobe school. >> Listen, I don't even got to look it up. All I know is if LeBron James wins a championship in Philadelphia, it will be great. It'll be great for the city of Philly, they haven't won a championship in what, 43 [ __ ] years, and winning a championship for a alltime historic franchise. That's actually Chance, >> guys. There's no chance. You got to How you going to the Knicks? >> Don't let me tell it. >> What's the one thing that's indisputable? >> I've never heard Chris. >> What's the one thing that's undisputable about LeBron? What do we all agree about LeBron? >> Chokes. No. >> What? >> Basketball genius. >> What I got? >> Everything. It has to do with everything. He looked around. He could have gone anywhere. He could have gone to San Antonio to put them over the top. >> I'm going to say the 76ers problems all these years has been they've been too stupid >> in many ways. >> I don't know if there was a market for Braun like y'all think it was. >> Oh my god. Come on. >> I really don't. Yo, >> there's a financial market meaning people want to see him play one last time to play. >> He's a basketball genius. >> Let me tell you something. Nobody's worried about LeBron. Nobody on the East Coast, not a single team is going, "Oh no, we're playing LeBron tonight." >> Why? Because why? 42 years old. >> You're not worried about him when he has to be one of the top two guys. >> Number five, >> you got TO BE WORRIED ABOUT GOD. >> YOU'RE RIGHT. >> We're not worried about that on your offense. >> Why am I worried about Josh Hart? >> Y don't got no Jaylen Brown. >> I got a rejuvenated Joel Embiid. I got the young BJ Edgecomb. >> Joel will play 42 games next year. He's fine. His knee don't even go 90 degrees. >> Only one basketball. >> Who's gonna be the number one guy on the team? >> Every night's a different story. >> N that's not a team wins. That's not how it works. >> It's called versatility. >> All right. >> It's called losing. >> No, >> you got to have a Jaylen Brunson where you get the rock in his hand. >> He want his team to be fluid. [ __ ] liberal. >> You would want your team to be fluid. >> We're going to flow right through the East, the West, >> the playoffs. It's going to be a beautiful thing. >> Question. >> See y'all, well, it seems like Chris does. you respect a player that goes to different teams and try to win the ring instead of staying on one team. >> I will say I I loved what Dererick Fisher said. That was hard and I agree with that. Derek Fisher said you're not ring chasing if you're the reason the people get the ring. >> Take that that type of argument about the quote unquote ring chasing that he does that again everybody's ring chasing. >> You're not ring chasing when you're the guy that creates the rings. >> Yes. Like go back in NBA sports history. It's not about where like what team the guy is on. It's about what team it's it's about where he is, not the city or the team. >> Yeah. >> So, uh Lu Alenders, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, uh he didn't chase rings where he went, the rings followed. >> Yes. Yes. Indeed. So, it's the same like when you look at the history of all of the greats, it's where they are that the rings go. It's not the other way around. It's not like a ring is sitting in Philadelphia and he's going to chase it. His addition will increase the chances of them getting it. Yeah, they look good on paper without him, but they may not win it without him either. And they could also come up short with him. >> I agree. Like, like that's not ring chasing. Like LeBron goes the team and teams the rings follow him. >> I I completely >> like I that was that was actually I was like you know what that's >> KD to Golden State is ring chasing. >> KD to Golden State is ring chasing cuz KD never won a ring anywhere and still hasn't won a ring anywhere else. He went to Golden State cuz Golden State were champions. He won two rings and hasn't won anywhere else. LeBron has won everywhere he went. He's been the difference maker >> 100%. >> So it's a thing he go to Philly that's not ring chasing. You can't knock LeBron's rings. And people try to knock the bubble ring and I think that's [ __ ] >> Do you respect that more? >> What's that? >> What? >> Going to different teams and getting a ring versus >> It's not about more or less. It's if you go to a different team and you build the team, you deserve the credit. If you go to a different team that's already an amazing team and they're already winning championships and you win another one with them, it's not as val. >> It's going to be one of the biggest points that people bring up if LeBron wins a ring in Philly cuz he literally won a ring with every team he went to. So you as soon as somebody says, "Man, he chased he went to different team to team and he won a ring every time he went to a team." >> He's going to win a ring with us >> and he will undisputably be the GOAT. I've always had Jordan above him. >> No, >> really. You going to put Wait, you going to put him above now if he wins? >> Now you just saying anything? >> That's crazy. >> Now you just saying anything for the sake of saying anything. >> He's still Listen, LeBron standing. >> This will change on that team. Like let's just talk about the build of the team. Like, how are you? This is a three-point game we live in right now. >> I got my my young my young gun, Anthony Simons, coming off the bench. >> No, no. Give me your starting five. The five that are going to play the last eight. >> Tyrese Mark, Maxi, arguably can shoot >> one of the best shooters in the league. >> Can shoot his ass off. >> Now he gets to play off ball with LeBron orchestrating. >> You got one. >> VJ's been in the lab all summer. >> What does that mean? >> Putting on muscle, perfecting his three-point shot. He's going to be a sniper. >> You got Maxi. >> Two. We got Maxi >> Brown a very legitimate shooter. >> No. >> Yes. >> Embiid always a decent three-point shooter. >> You better hope that he's out there. >> He's going to pick it up. I'm going to see him at around 40% this year. >> Chris, there's no way Joel Embiid will be playing outside of the perimeter on this team. He has to go down low. That's the only He has to go. >> He's going to go where LeBron tells him to go. >> That's dumb. If if if he's still shooting threes on this team. >> No, I like him shooting threes on this team. I like I don't I mean I me personally I think for that team you need him on the wing because you need to create lanes for Jaylen and you need to create lanes for Paul >> because otherwise it's going to be to George. >> No, he's gone. >> He's gone. >> Sorry, not Paul. George, I'm sorry. >> Jaylen and Maxi to drive, VJ to drive and beat out on the perimeter. Now, if he has to take a cat down low and bang him and post him, we'll do that, too. >> Maxi, >> I'm going to be honest with you based off what Schulz just said. My >> Nick Knicks in five, bro. I think about it like they got to get this chemistry. I already knew they wasn't going to have no chemistry, but now are hitting the club. They're partying out of the first round. >> Oh my god. Come on. >> I don't think you make it out of the first round. You don't have any shooting. There's no shooting. This is a three-point game. You don't come back from down [ __ ] 39 or whatever the hell we came back from with going two for two. >> Well, >> talk to me. >> A difference. The thing I did like about the Knicks is the Knicks do take it to the basket. I think that San Antonio Spurs died on the three-point shooting that game because they didn't switch it up in the second half and they just kept shooting, shooting, shooting, and missing. Meanwhile, Knicks was going down there getting layups, getting dunks. >> We were hitting >> going to the basket. They were hitting a few threes. But I think it was the fact that the Spurs were missing a bunch of threes and the Knicks were driving to the basket. That's what I like about the Knicks. >> You got to hit. >> You guys aren't ready for Maxi off ball. That's what you don't understand. He's been miscast playing out of position. Now LeBron is orchestrating. LeBron is playing point. He's setting all these guys up. >> Be playing point. >> So you have all five of your players on the perimeter. >> Hey, kind of what we did. >> If Embiid has to take you down low and punish you, so be it. >> Cat doesn't want it with Embiid down low. >> Cat will smoke Embiid. >> No. >> Oh, come on. >> Knicks are going to be so good. >> It was a beautiful year for the Knicks. I'm very happy for everybody. >> They going to be better next year. They champions playing with different level of confidence. different level of confidence. >> You're not thinking about New York confidence, bro. >> We got new confidence. >> This is a different type of confidence. >> I think you I think you guys might miss the playoff. >> Miss, >> I'm not going to worry. >> We're just going to sit it out and then we'll >> I think you might miss the playoff. >> Come on. >> Embiid, God forbid, but Embiid could get injured without Embiid. 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Uh, church announcements. This Saturday, um, in Monk's Corner, South Carolina, I am having my 11th annual back to school drive, okay? Book bag drive and fish fry, okay? You know how we do. 600 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. at the Berkeley High School bus loop. We're gonna have uh backpacks and we're gonna have the food trucks and the jump castles and the face painting, all of that good stuff. All you got to do is pull up the Berkeley High School this Saturday from 6:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. Salute to Spray Ground, man. Sprayground gave me a fantastic deal on some backpacks. So, all the kids in Monk's Corner that come to my 11th annual back to school drive fish fry will be getting uh spray ground backpacks and school supplies, man. So, yeah. See y'all this Saturday. What you got, Hezekiah Walker? >> Saturday, Halifax, Nova Scotia. Great outdoors fest. Awesome show. Wild venue outdoors like insane. So, uh, we'll see you guys up there. Halifax, Nova Scotia. I'm coming up there. I'm bringing Mark Gagnon, Cam Patterson, Lucas Zelnik, Rory Gardner, open it up. So, uh, it's going to be a great show. We'll see you guys there. >> All right, let's get back to the show. What else we got? Taylor gang. Oh, salute to um uh I'm getting a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, man. >> Brother, I wanted to bring that up. >> I'm getting a star in the Hollywood Walk of Fame. That's all right. >> Unbelievable. >> You know, all the digital [ __ ] out there, man. >> Tell me. >> It's just funny. It's funny to watch because it's it's it's not hard to have conversations with people about stuff like this because you can just tell them they choose to listen, right? So people will see my name along with like uh who else is getting in this year? Um Kiki Palmer, um Delroy Lindo, Idris Ela, right? Little Wayne. And they're like, "What the [ __ ] is Charlemagne up there for?" Guys, they have a radio category. The Hollywood Walk of Fame has a radio category. >> So they have radio, music, acting. >> It's radio, music, acting. I forgot. I can't remember the other categories, but they have a radio category. I know y'all think radio is just prehistoric, okay? And nobody listens to it anymore, but that's not the case. And the Hollywood Walk of Fame has a actual radio category. I think there's 2,800 stars on the Hollywood Walk of Fame and like 9% of them are radio personalities. So, that's it's just it's just a rare feat. Why wouldn't I be in there for radio? I'm I'm just saying like why would why wouldn't I be in the on the Hollywood Walk of Fame for radio? >> Yeah, there'd be no reason not to. >> Elvis Durant has a star. Angie Martinez got selected for a star a couple of years ago. Wendy Williams has a star. I I I I feel like I should have a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame >> reaction. You're so good at like knowing the what people are saying to about things. I mean, you look at it, you see it like, you know, if somebody post put a post, somebody will at me and tag me and they'll they'll ask the question like, "Why is Charlemagne getting a star in the Hollywood Walk of Fame?" Because there's a radio category. I'm already in the radio hall of fame. I think I'm pretty good at this radio thing, guys. I think so. All right. I've been doing it for 28 years. Okay. All right. It'll be 16 years of Breakfast Club this December, right? All right. Like, and then the funny part is when [ __ ] be like, >> "The [ __ ] is the radio person there? Where the [ __ ] is the radio guy getting a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame for? Cuz when they think Hollywood Walk of Fame, they think Hollywood. They think >> Yeah. movies. Yeah. >> Movies and [ __ ] like that. No, they have a radio category. So, yes, I'm going to get my goddamn star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. And for the people who say other stupid [ __ ] like you pay for it, you don't know what you're talking about either. You have to be selected for it first, then you got to pay for it. >> Yeah. What is the >> Why? Yeah. I mean, why are they just trying to discredit >> Schultz? Come on. What What would the world be if people didn't try to discredit you, >> man? I saw a great quote. >> What are you talking about? >> I saw a great quote. Let me >> What are you talking What would the world be if they didn't try to discredit you, man, >> in your accomplishments? But >> for people who want to know, you pay for the star after you get selected because you have to pay for the actual physical star. You got to pay for the star to be in the ground. You got to pay for the lifetime maintenance of the star. and you have to pay for the ceremony. >> So, it's just like, you know, getting invited to the Met Gala. Like, I don't know if y'all know or not, but these people make donations, right, when they get invited to the Met Gala and it goes to the museum. So, hey, man, >> the Hollywood Walk of Fame. They got to they got to they got to make money, too, I guess. You know, I saw But you don't but you don't pay for the star. You can't go there and say, "Hey, let me get a star." If that was the case, it'd be a lot more than 2,800 of them. >> A lot of the award shows are the same way. What do you mean? Like far as campaigning and stuff, >> you gota you got to pay the organization that throws them. >> Oh, I didn't know that. >> Yeah. Oh, >> man. I wanted to find this [ __ ] quote. >> What's the quote? >> Something like um like like taking pleasure in the in like the criticism of the successful or the downfall of the successful is the the drug of the mediocre. or something like that. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Like you're exposing your own mediocrity by taking pleasure in knocking successful people down. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Does that make sense? >> LeBron, >> I love it. Listen, by the way, I love it. There's nothing more that warms my cold heart than to watch people mad at me being successful. The time and energy that y'all take to make your videos and send out your posts. Thank you. I appreciate you because I keep telling y'all over and over, the algorithm don't know the [ __ ] difference. It just doesn't. The algorithm has no idea what why your name is alive in the algorithm is just in the algorithm. So, thank you. >> The downfall of the great has always been the joy of the mediocre. Ooh. >> Ooh. So that means that the uh the continued evolution of the great >> the sick, >> right? >> Of course. >> Or did I just make that up? >> No, they don't. Yeah, of course they don't want you to win because if cuz there's got to be a reason why they're not winning. >> Well, I can't wait to tell y'all when the ceremony is going to be. Okay. >> You >> I want to be there. >> Me, too. >> Of course. What are you talking about? >> I got to be there. >> What do you mean? I hit you up when I saw and I was like, "Bro, when is this? I got to go." I thought you were doing it like last week. >> No, no, no, no, no. I I'll probably wait until like early 2027 cuz it's a it's for the 2027. >> Got it. >> By the way, I don't even know when cuz once I, you know, take care of everything, then they tell you schedule the ceremony and stuff. But I hope it's a I hope it's at a time where all of us can, you know, pull up. You know what I mean? >> I can't wait to uh do graffiti on it. >> That'd be dope. >> Yeah, that' be dope. If y'all don't stick one of them WNBA dildos on his shoulder weekly, we don't have real Brilliant idiots fans in LA. If there ain't a WNBA dildo stuck on that plaque weekly, >> that's what the money's for. The money is the clean. >> We're going to Hey, I'm starting another fund. >> I'm starting another fun. >> Or make the Never mind. >> It's the WNBA dildo fund. Okay. So, we need a weekly. You're going to have the most popular star on the walk of fame. >> I can't wait. And you know what's so interesting about the star? It wasn't something that I ever thought about. I never thought about a star in the Hollywood Walk of Fame, which is weird because usually I see other like if I see like a Elvis Durant or or Wendy, I'm like, "Oh, that's a goal. I never thought of that as a goal." I don't know why. Like never like never did I ever think about that as a goal. >> Yeah, because I don't know if it's like um I don't know if it's like a way that we judge radio people. >> No, it's not Big Boy Got a Star. >> Right. Right. Meaning like there are other examples of success >> that we would dictate like the the gravity of a radio personality outside a star on the Walk of Fame. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> At least in my mind. Yeah. >> You know, if if someone told me like Howard Stern never got a star, I'd be like, >> he don't have one. >> But I'm sure he's been offered a star. >> I don't know if he's been offered because he's publicly bashed the process. Like he thinks it's ridiculous that >> he you have to pay for it once they select you. Well, who do they expect to pay for chipping up the street and like inserting the thing? Like, >> I don't know. Like, listen, I I listen, I respect all sides of why people want them and why people don't want them. I know I'm going to get mine. >> I mean, it's a small fee to pay for immortality. You know, as long as Los Angeles is here and it will be here for at least another 5, 10 years, >> I mean, it's an honor to have a method homeless person take a [ __ ] on your name, right? Like, who wouldn't want that? You know, >> listen, I'm getting it. I want it. Hollywood star, Hollywood star, star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, uh, Hall of Fame radio personality. Sounds pretty good to me. >> It is an unbelievable accomplishment to be immortalized in the the center hub for entertainment for the world. >> I have no problem. talking about like >> I have no problem with it. I was sitting on my porch and started getting texts and I was like what the [ __ ] is going on? >> Oh, you didn't even you weren't even aware. >> No idea. I had no idea that I had been submitted that you know cuz you know somebody they have to submit you somebody has to submit your name. I had no idea I had been submitted. It was a complete complete I listen I had the SAME REACTION AS EVERYBODY THAT WAS HITTING ME THAT WAS TALKING [ __ ] The [ __ ] I'm getting a star for. You know the [ __ ] am I getting thought for? But then you Oh, they got a radio category. All right, makes sense. >> That's so funny. >> That's all I want. Um, what else we got? Taylor, >> how much can I pay to have your name spelled wrong? >> I mean, I'm definitely doing tha. >> Really? >> Yeah. I I thought about saying >> got to do it. That's the name. >> You got That's the name, right? That's the name. That's the name. >> You can't do that. >> Why would you not? >> I want You can't do Lenard McKelie. >> Oh, yeah. Why would you do that? It's not the same. >> Why would you do Lari? People know your show. >> And it's Hollywood, right? My stage name is Ben Shaman. I feel like your stage name should be on the star. >> It is. >> Yeah. >> Why you acting like you wouldn't be? >> I don't know. I mean, I can it could be whatever I wanted to be, but Yeah. >> Yeah. I think Charlemagne the God. >> Yeah. >> Because every actor who's changed their name uses their actor name. >> Yeah. Whoopy Goldberg named Whoopy Goldberg. >> Tom Cruz name ain't Tom Cruz. Jamie Fox name Jamie Fox. Absolutely. 100%. >> What's Tom Cruz's name? >> Cruz. Tom. Shut up. >> No. What is his real name? >> It's going to be Holland in a minute. He He not even going to want to be a Cruz in a [ __ ] minute. It's going to be [ __ ] Tom Holland. What else we got? Taylor, >> his name is Thomas Cruz Mathther. >> What? >> I see why he changed it. >> Yo, man. Let's do some asking idiots, mate. >> Let's do it. >> Let's do some asking idiots, man. Yo, they got the Is that real? The Yeezy 800s? Cuz them [ __ ] look fire. Have you seen them? >> Let me see front. >> I want those. >> Them [ __ ] right there look fire. >> Let me see them. >> Them [ __ ] right there. >> I want those. >> They kind of look like >> soneies a little bit. They look comfortable, man. This is the first time I've seen him directly rip off a >> a sneaker, right? Yeah. >> This is a direct ripoff of a New Balance. >> A New Balance. Yeah. These are new New Balance like 995s or something like that. I like the colors and I like >> but like the shape of the sneaker is an identical New Balance or or like an AS6. It looks >> Oh, the AS6. Yeah, the new AS6 too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. You're absolutely right. Um let's do some let's do these ads tail then do some masking idiots. Okay. Also, while we wait, did you know that Gen Z men are being more stay at home and the women have to work? >> [ __ ] About time. How many millions of years we You know, [ __ ] work millions of years, man. >> What is a Gen Z man? What What year is that? >> Yo, my buddy My buddy had a funny ass take. He's He's dead. >> And uh >> he's gay. >> No, he's dead. >> Oh. >> And he was uh he's talking he got he got three kids. He's talking about like being with the kids or whatever. And he was like, he's like, "Man, brother's like, we're spending, our generation is spending three times more time with our kids than our parents and past generations. Like, we're the first dads that are just there all the time." And um but we still have the responsibilities of of work and that kind of stuff, right? And uh what he said he was saying to his wife, he's basically like he's basically like look like I never had anyone to learn how to do this from. >> You know what I mean? It's like I'm making this up as I go. Like you had your mom doing all the time with you and the kids. So you have an expectation of what you're supposed to do. We're the first generation being full-time dads and our wives aren't happy with how we're doing it. We're like, "Who the [ __ ] were we supposed to learn from?" >> Our dads were playing golf or going to do other [ __ ] or hanging out or drinking at the bar. That was normal. >> No, my dad was very present. >> So was mine. So is mine. I don't have the excuse. >> I don't have the excuse. But the data shows that most times dads were they're fighting a war. >> My dad was outside. >> Dad was outside >> fighting a war against his loins. All right. He was he was [ __ ] he My dad had a whole Yeah. What are you talking about? Ask an idiot. What we got? What we got? Taylor gang. >> What you got, Taylor gang? >> What you got for us? >> Got Taylor gang. >> What you got for us, Taylor gang? What you got for us? >> Why you sounding like so bougie just now? >> What you got for us? >> What you got for us? Bang. >> Still one saint says, "If both of you had to start your careers today, would you have the same level of success?" If both of you had to start your careers today, >> would you I think more. >> Yeah, >> I think more. If Are we starting our career today with all of the knowledge that we've acquired over the last however many years? >> No, I think they meant just >> randomly like we just had to start now. >> I mean, I don't I guess >> Yeah, if you're going to have you're going to have to say Listen, luck is plays a part in all this. >> Yes, it does. >> So, we >> I never used to believe in luck till recently. >> What made you change? Um because I mean I believe in God first and foremost. I believe in God. Uh and I believe in um hard work. >> Um but I guess I don't know. I guess maybe what my sister Alicia Renee, my good sister Alicia Renee told me to >> cuz I read uh Joe uh uh Joe Morgan's book. John Morgan's book. I'm sorry. John Morgan book from Morgan and Morgan. Yeah. >> And the name of his book is uh Hold on. I'm g tell you right now. It's is it was it? It's not It's not hard work, it's luck. Hold on. Let me tell you right now. John Morgan book is called called yes life is luck lessons from a paper boy and how to improve your luck and basically what he says is that uh being self-made is a myth and you have to focus on how to recognize lucky breaks handle misfortune and build a return on luck but what he actually describes as luck is also too just god like you know some things are just you know destined to be right >> and so I I I believe I believe I believe that as well so I don't want to say I all the way believe in luck, but I just believe that there are these divine breaks that happen, whether you want to call, you want to call them luck, whatever you want to call them. >> There's just these divine breaks that happen for you. Um, but I think they happen for you because they're for you. >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? Like I don't think everybody I think your path is completely different than anybody else's path. Like you could tell another comedian exactly what you did for them >> and it might not work for them. Trust me, I see it. It's one of my favorite things to do. watch people put stuff on YouTube and put their stand up special stuff. >> You're bad though. >> You're bad. You're a bad guy. >> What? I like watching it. I like watching it cuz I'm like, you know what? >> I can see why it's not happening for you. But then there's other people who do it and I'm like, that motherfucker's funny. It's just a matter of time, >> right? >> You know what I'm saying? That's the difference. But that's what I mean when I say what worked for you won't work for everybody else because they're not >> you. They don't have what you have. like and and just because you see it work for it can work for it can work for a few people. I'm sure that putting standup specials on YouTube it has worked for you. What I'm talking about it's work it's working for a lot of people. I can think Alisa De and all those guys like that. >> Yeah. Amazing. >> But those guys are funny. >> Yeah. I mean you need to have you need to have it. >> You got to be you got to have it. >> You got to have >> you got to have it. The formula don't matter if you don't have >> Yeah. >> the it. >> So I don't know. I feel like we I feel like we'd still be successful if we had to start the day because this that was just in our cards, I guess. >> Yeah. >> Um P LRD8222 said, "What's your favorite summer memory ever?" Ooh, >> I've made some good ones this summer. >> Really? >> Definitely, bro. What you got going on? >> I told you I've been chasing dopamine all [ __ ] summer. Real dopamine hits. It started with the Jay-Z show going to Well, actually started with vacation. >> Yeah. >> Being in Angula for 10 days, you know, that's my happy place. But then coming home and then that very next weekend going to Jay-Z for three days. Yeah. Went to all three Jay-Z shows which I didn't plan to do. I only planned to go to one. But >> that dope me was so high from that Friday. I went to all of them. Then last week or the week before last went to Vegas to go see Jeezy on a Friday, Mary J. Blige on a Saturday. Dopamine high through the roof. And then um this week was last week was I went to go see a great play. Oh my god. You should go see uh [ __ ] I can't remember the title or nothing. This is it's every brilliant thing with Tracy Ellis Ross. Hold on. What's it called? >> I don't know. >> I know what you're talking about. >> You know what I'm talking about. It's a onew woman play. But you'll like it because you understand um >> being on stage alone or >> I mean that too. Yes. Every brilliant thing. >> Oh my god, man. When you talk about art that puts people's anxiety and depression in perspective and grief in perspective. Oh, and she's the only person. She's she's a one woman play. So, it's just her, >> but the audience is her co-host. So, when you walk in, inside your play bill is a number and a line. And so as she's on stage, she's doing the play and she'll she'll say the number and then the person who whatever number is, you got to scream the line back to her. So she incorporates the whole audience. Oh, that [ __ ] is so dope. It's it's it's dope. >> That's risky though cuz what if you don't pay attention to the name? >> She keeps saying the number. >> So she just say nine nine like >> Yeah. Yeah. Or like 10 10,32 10,32. And she does it so dull. Like you you don't even realize like >> is she in a scene though? Like >> well it's incorporated because it's called every brilliant thing. So she's the play is about her writing down all of these things that she loves and she numbers them. >> Oh, okay. >> You know what I'm saying? So when she screams out the number, the person screams out the thing and then that keeps the play. >> Everyone in the play gets called on. There's no way. >> Not not everybody in the audience, but majority of a lot a large part of the audience. >> Wow. >> Yeah. And then she's surrounded on stage by a lot of the audience. The [ __ ] is dope. This [ __ ] is dope. So, long story short, and then my then I got my like my my my good sister getting married this weekend. Like, you know what I mean? Like, >> so it's just like it's dope. It's kind non-stop dopamine. So, this has been a very memorable summer. My daughter's going to college. Like, >> this has been a very memorable summer. I will remember the summer of uh 26. I got to [ __ ] star in the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Like, it's just >> crazy. >> It's a big ass. this summer I've been creating a lot of memories. What about you? >> Um there's like crazy childhood memories, but uh I honestly think it's my my daughter's at an age now where like we're really communicating. >> Yeah. >> And uh it's just unbelievable. It's amazing. You know, it's like painful being away cuz she can literally go when dad will you come home. Will you come to >> Oh my god. >> Yeah. But like just being able to have conversations with her, you know, being able for her to like express what she wants and then go do it and like go on little like daddy daughter dates. That's been the coolest thing that I can remember in the summer for sure. >> Dope. >> Yeah. >> I went to the Hamptons though. You I went to Hampton. >> Yeah. What do you think? >> I thought the Hamptons was dope. I get it. It reminds me of the Low Country. >> Interesting. >> It reminds me of like South Carolina like like >> the Hilton Heads, the Isisle of Palms, the Kills. I get it. I get why if you're in New York, you would want to go to the Hamptons and cool. It's a cool vibe. It's cool energy. >> Food is pretty good. Lobster rolls. Oh my god. >> Where'd you go? >> You love the lobster roll. >> I love a [ __ ] lobster. I don't remember the name of that place. It's [ __ ] Only thing place I remember is the ice cream spot cuz my kids made me go there like twice. >> Oh, the uh in town. >> Yeah. >> Clouse or something like that or whatever. >> Something with a B. >> Oh, no. >> Buddha. >> Oh, yeah. Buddha. Yeah, >> that's what it's called. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was dope though. I had a good Had a good time in the Hamptons. Um, what's one aspect of life that everyone takes advantage of? >> Time. >> Time. Time. Time. Time. Time. >> You have so much of it until you have none of it. >> Yeah. >> Time. That's the best advice. The nice thing about having kids when you're older is that all the people that are your age that already had kids and older than you constantly remind you how fast it goes. >> Yeah. >> So now I have that in my brain. I'm like, "Okay, I got to soak up these moments. I got to take this. All right. I'm tired and I'm hung over cuz I had martinis at dinner. >> Well, [ __ ] it. Let's get up. Cuz how many year how many time how much time am I going to have with her at two and a half years old just pushing her on a swing?" Like, >> yeah, >> that's actually made me stop drinking. Interesting. >> Because of that, >> yeah, you the mornings you're cooks. You >> I want to be up. I want to be up. I want to be up with the kids. Like I don't want to be be wake up. Yeah. N because it impacts everything. Your workout, all of that [ __ ] like that. >> Like it makes you >> Yeah, I agree with that. >> Time though, man. >> Time. >> Time. Definitely. Uh, can you remember a time in your life that you wish time stopped temporarily? >> Absolutely. >> A million times. Every time I [ __ ] had a premature orgasm. >> Oh yeah. >> 100%. >> You know what I'm saying? >> 100. >> Like every single time. Like why am I nutting fast again? >> Why? >> You know what I'm saying? Like god damn. >> That's not what he talking about. >> It's my time. YOU ASKED ME a question. >> It's his but he regrets. >> What about you? show >> time. Ah, that's a good one. I mean, yes, of course, in those situations. Uh, we wish time stopped temporarily. >> I'd be doing that [ __ ] too. >> What? >> Stopping time. >> Just like Blossom. I'd be like, >> "Is that what she could do?" >> Yes. I Every time I'm in a moment that I really really enjoy, I do that [ __ ] Yo, >> just to see. >> I just be like, "Stop." I'm dead serious. I do that especially on vacation and time be stopping. >> What the hell y'all talking about? >> You too young to know who Blossom is, man. >> Talking about the [ __ ] Powerpuff Girls. Who the [ __ ] she at that? >> Nah, man. That's the That's the power. That's the Blossom y'all know. That's not the Blossom we know. >> Next one. >> Okay. The Blossom we know is [ __ ] Mayik. >> Yeah. >> Who's that? >> May Ballik. Okay. Jewish goat. All right. >> Okay. All right. >> Are y'all going to explain more? What is it? >> Oh my god. >> Oh, it's a movie. >> She was on Big Bang Theory, too, though. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. May is a legend. >> Oh, [ __ ] I didn't really >> don't play with my y'all. >> No, I didn't connect it to >> I'm sorry. Basai. >> Chris, that sound like a name you should be saying. >> Are we going to get Brilliant Idiots live in 2027? I just don't know how. >> Why? Why you keep saying that? >> Cuz we're busy, man. Yeah, but y'all find this is about finding time. People only make time for what they want to make time for. >> That's true. >> I like MAKING TIME FOR THIS. I LIKE doing Bidius every week as a podcast. I love it. Y'all listen to us. >> So, why not make it a >> We'll end up doing something eventually for sure. But >> wait for the movie, man. The movie, man. Don't y'all want the movie? >> Let us cook. Let us cook. >> Y want y'all rather have a brilliant idiots movie? >> Yeah. >> You know what I'm saying? I got to I got to think we should have a scene in the movie where we walk past like A GRAVEYARD. OH, WHAT MOVIE SHOULD CHRISTOPHER NOLAN DO NEXT? The brilliant idiot. God damn it. Okay. Yo, Chris >> J Sap9. >> We need you. Do the Brand >> your first comedy. >> Okay. >> Um, let's do one more. >> My bad. I didn't mean to do that. >> Uh, >> wait. I know there is one. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. >> What? >> Um, >> you got one you wanted to do? >> Yeah. I'm going to ask you to do this one. Which superpowers would you give each other? >> Which superpowers would I give each would we give each other? >> I would give him the superpower to be able to land one dick jump. >> Like just one is is a superpower where where you're able to actually get one. >> To say one of those. >> If fruits and vegetables went to war against each other, who would win? >> Vegetables. >> Yeah, vegetables. >> No, >> they're way harder. >> Yeah, exactly. The n vegetables way hard. >> The cob, he could just He's taller than the fruits. >> Also, a pumpkin is just heavy. >> Pumpkin. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. But the fruits going to be people's butts. You know what I'm saying? Grabbing [ __ ] >> You know what I mean? It's going to throw the veget. >> Oh, I know what you're talking about. I get what you're saying. >> Oh, >> I get it. >> He's annoying. >> I MISSED IT. AND I MEAN, WHAT WOULD A FRUIT DO to an eggplant? Are you serious? Like, what are you talking about? Okay. A fruit would [ __ ] a eggplant up. You hear me? >> As always, you didn't question. What superpower would you give Andrew? What superpowers would Oh, I like the other one. I would You know what superpower I would give him? I see I wouldn't want to give him a superpower. I would want to be Jean Gray >> and then possess him and just go crazy and finally do this special that I want to do called White Devil's Advocate. I've been trying to get him to do a special called White Devil's Advocate forever. I want to possess him and do the White Devil's Advocate. Okay? Where I go >> I know what I do already. >> Nah, but this is different cuz I want you to go in front of each audience and tell the jokes. You go in front of a group of transgenders, you tell a joke. You go in front of a group of black people, tell a joke. You go in front of a group of Jewish people and tell a joke. You go in front of MAGA folk, tell a joke. Like it's just equal opportunity slander. >> They're all at my show when I do it, but it's you want it to be only. >> Yes. You remember that Chris Rock special where he starts off, he goes London, New York, and you show him in all the different That's what I would want to do. Okay. And I would shoot the special, not tell nobody I shot shot it, get on X one day and just go crazy. I mean, just starts saying the most wildest [ __ ] to where Andrew's trending, everybody's mad, and then it's like, "Watch my special at 8:00 on Netflix." Then it comes on and people are even more pissed off. And they're even more pissed off cuz it's actually [ __ ] funny. And then then shows wakes up and don't know what the [ __ ] going on. And I'm just sitting there smiling. We wake up in Brilliant Idiot studio. He's sitting there. The chaos has happened. Nobody knows why it's happened. >> He's all confused and >> he's all confused. But the world is a better place. >> Why? >> The world is a better place. >> Okay, listen. As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right. But if you listen to this podcast and think we're just a couple idiots who don't know [ __ ] you're right, too. It's the Brilliant Idiot Podcast. Thank you for listening. Peace.