Video summary
A viewer named Jacob writes in with a question from his wife, Sabrina, regarding her struggle with doubt after leaving charismatic circles. She had previously held strong convictions about certain teachings she believed were directly from God, but recent events have led her to realize many of these were merely human opinions rather than divine truth. This realization has trapped her in a cycle of skepticism where she questions even the most basic truths of her faith while reading the Bible, leaving her unsure how to rebuild her confidence without falling into constant doubt.
The hosts address this by reminding Jacob and Sabrina that such confusion is not unique to them but is actually predicted by the Apostle Paul in his final letters. Paul warned that false teachers would arise from within the church itself to speak perverse things and draw disciples away, a reality that applies to all movements, not just charismatic ones. The hosts emphasize that while people may seem sincere or possess spiritual gifts, their actions and teachings can still contradict Scripture, which is why believers must always "trust but verify" by checking everything against the unchanging Word of God rather than relying on human leaders or personal experiences.
There is absolutely no reason to feel ashamed about having been deceived or for leaving a movement that taught false doctrines; instead, this experience should be viewed as a badge of honor indicating spiritual growth. The hosts clarify that while individuals like Paul were inspired by the Holy Spirit, it is the Scripture itself that is God-breathed and the only standard that never changes. Satan's first attack in the Garden of Eden was to question God's word, so Christians must guard against doing the same when faced with conflicting teachings or charismatic signs.
Ultimately, true faith is built on a commitment to the written Word rather than dependence on miracles, signs, or the emotional experiences of others. The hosts conclude that Jacob and Sabrina are excellent examples of believers who have correctly prioritized Scripture over human movements, proving that their salvation does not depend on seeing wonders but on holding fast to the truth found in the Bible. This journey of shedding bad teachings and focusing solely on God's inspired word is a virtuous process that every Christian will face at some point as they mature in their faith.
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Can you hear me?
>> I can hear you. I can hear you.
>> All right.
>> I I detect an accent.
>> Yeah, I'm British.
>> We're going to pray for you. It's okay.
It's going to be okay.
>> Unfortunately, yeah.
>> I'm I'm good. No, no, no, no, no, no.
Listen, listen, listen. Whenever you
talk to an American
I'm going to I'm going to help you out,
all right? Where Where do you live?
>> Um in
Birmingham in the UK.
>> Okay, okay. Not Birmingham, Alabama.
Okay. So, whenever you talk Whenever you
talk to an American
all you have to do
is talk slow
and we will automatically think that you
are brilliant.
>> Yeah. To be fair, in my defense, I am
half German, so I'm not just British.
>> I can't Well, I'm
>> And half Portuguese, so
>> I can't Okay, now you got too much going
on with you now. Now Now you got too
much going on.
>> [laughter]
>> What can I do for you, Jacob?
>> Um it's a question from my wife,
actually. Um
>> Okay.
>> She She's a bit shy, so
>> Okay.
>> She She can she speak?
Um but she doesn't want to show her face
on camera.
>> [laughter]
>> She can speak. What's her name?
>> Yeah.
Yeah, her name's Sabrina.
>> Sabrina, hi Sabrina.
>> Hi.
>> You big chicken. Put your face on.
>> [laughter]
>> No, go go ahead. You can ask She can ask
She can ask. It's okay.
>> Yeah. Um no, I just wanted to ask your
opinion on something that I've
experienced. So,
um when I became a Christian, I had like
a really strong
um moment of conversion and I've been
all always very um
confident in my faith and very uh
passionate. Um I've always been in more
charismatic circles.
>> Mhm.
>> And uh this year with everything that
happened in the charismatic church, I've
come to realize a lot of things that I
thought were
truly from God were just like people.
And before I wouldn't allow myself to
question those things because I was
like, I don't want to question God if
God is speaking. But now I've changed my
mind and I've realized, you know, we got
to question these things because a lot
of things that are happening are not
really from God, but that kind of became
a loop in my head of questioning
everything. And even when I'm reading my
Bible, I start questioning everything,
even things that I know are true, but
it's like my brain got in this loop of
questioning everything because so much
that I trusted was
real wasn't. So, it's a bit strange and
I don't really know how to get out of
that cycle. I don't know, it's a bit of
a difficult question probably, but
>> Okay,
what what what actually is the question?
>> The question is um
how do I
rebuild my faith knowing that there are
things that
I believed were true are not,
>> Okay. So so
>> always questioning everything. Like you
know,
I'm just skeptical.
>> Let me ask you this.
You got saved by placing your faith in
who?
>> In Jesus.
>> There you go. So, here's what we Let Let
me just put up put on the screen what
Paul said. Now, this is Paul before he
dies. He says, "I know that after my
departure, savage wolves will come in
among you, not sparing the flock." Look
what he says, "among you."
So,
uh and from among your own, so these
people that come out of you who call
themselves Christians, some might be,
some might not be, but he says, "and
from among your own your own selves men
will arise speaking perverse things to
draw away the disciples after them." So,
here's what we know is going to happen
because our Bible says so.
People, and by the way, it's not just
charismatic people, it's just people,
period, are going to say things and do
things that are just ungodly.
That's why Paul What What was Paul's
last words? Do you remember what What
was the last words that he was talking
about?
>> I remember he talked about finishing the
race, right?
Um
>> Before he died
Before he dies and he knows he's He
knows they're going to cut his head off.
He knows that's that's going to happen,
and he says
the the sixth to the last line, 2
Timothy chapter 4,
he's talking about making sure people
hold the sound doctrine. And what does
he do? He calls out a man named
Alexander the Coppersmith. He said he
did me much much harm. He resisted our
our our message, our teaching.
So, Paul is dying or getting ready to
die, and that's what's on Paul's mind by
the Lord. Why? Because all we have is
his word. We all have the Holy Spirit,
but you know we don't know We don't know
who has the Holy Spirit. We can think
someone does. We can think someone has
good intentions,
but you know what never changes, what we
don't have to worry about? His word. So,
even Paul, who's full of the Spirit, is
is there,
and the people from Thessalonica I mean
from from Berea
go back and they research Paul. We
trust, but verify. Let's go back and
verify with the scriptures. And Luke
records them as being more noble than
those of Thessalonica.
Well, [snorts] in Thessalonica, remember
what happens in when Paul writes his
letter to the first and second
Thessalonians?
Paul is having to re-encourage them.
The people from Berea, though, in in
Acts
17, they're going back and check.
Sometimes people can get kind of tossed
back and forth by as as as the writer
says, by every wind of doctrine, because
they're not paying attention to true
doctrine.
So, a person can seem genuine and
sincere,
but the word is the one thing that never
changes.
I've been in that position to where I I
thought that these people were were By
the way, I came out of a charismatic
background as well.
Where
um
I felt let down because the person
either actions and certainly their
understanding of the word didn't line
up.
Nothing to be ashamed about that. That
happens That happens. That That's just
part of the growth process.
As a matter of fact,
>> had a similar thing. I had a similar
thing as well.
>> Yeah, see that that's a good thing.
>> I was from a different movement as well.
I I was in like the
independent fundamental Baptist King
James only like
you know, the really [clears throat]
like I used to listen to people like
Steven Anderson to like and and it I'm
ashamed to say that now,
but it's because I was deceived in in a
lot of ways and like thankfully God
brought me out of that.
>> There's no reason to to feel ashamed.
There's no reason to feel ashamed from
coming out of that movement or from a
charismatic movement or and I mean
charismatic hyper-charismatic movement.
Um
most of my most of my Christian friends
are Pentecostal charismatic. They're not
that far off.
Um
or there's nothing to be ashamed about
coming out of
Mormonism or or anything else. There's
nothing to be ashamed about that. That's
a good thing. That's a virtue.
That's something that we can all clap
cuz we all had to in the in most cases
not all, but in most case many cases had
to shed some bad teaching, some bad
understanding. But that just all that
means is I've been growing.
That just means you've been growing.
That means she's been growing. That's
all That's all it means. That's a good
thing. Don't ever be ashamed of that.
Wear it like a badge of honor. Hey,
listen, I was this, but what it says is
and what it shows is you have focused on
the word. That's more important. Paul
says all scripture. Let me put it on the
screen.
All scripture is God breathed. It didn't
say that Paul is God breathed or God
inspired.
It's not that John is God inspired or
Peter, but the scriptures are. But why?
Because these are the things that are
God breathed. The word God inspired is
is they are
they are new style, which is God
breathed. That's what's That's the
important part, not the people, not
Paul. That's why Paul says, "If if we or
I or any angel preaches a different
gospel, let that person be accursed."
Because it's the word that matters.
That's why he says, "Don't go beyond or
exceed what is written."
From the Old Testament to the New
Testament, God has always been after
what? Keeping his word. And what's the
first thing that Satan did in the
garden? Attack the word. Did God really
say this?
So,
you didn't go through anything that
everyone else didn't go through or isn't
going to go through. We all are going to
have to either we dealt with that
growing up,
we either dealt with it as we became a
believer, or you're going to deal with
it later in life. Every Christian is
going to have to deal with having to
figure out what's real and what's not.
And the only way that you can tell
what's real is by going to the word.
So, you have absolutely nothing
absolutely nothing to be ashamed of or
bothered by. You You did a good thing.
Peter says we should grow in the grace
and knowledge
of the Lord. So, that's what we're
growing in.
Not somebody on on on on a platform
waving their hand and folks falling out
and frothing at the mouth and falling
over. No, that's not That's not how we
grow.
As a matter of fact, all of those signs
and wonders,
the only the purpose for those is for
people to see and know that Jesus is
God, that he is that he died for our
sins, and that we may have salvation.
That's what he says in John 20. These
things were written The few that were
written were written so that we may know
him and have life.
But now that you have them, guess what
you don't need.
You don't need those signs. Now, does
that mean that those signs won't come?
I'm not saying that, but they don't need
to come. I don't If I never see a sign,
if I never see a miracle,
I'm saved. My faith won't change.
If you are dependent upon seeing signs
and miracles and wonders, then I'm going
to question your salvation.
So, I think you I think you are you are
an an a great example or you are
exemplary
in your commitment to the Lord and his
word versus someone else's movement. I
think that's a wonderful thing.