Senior Citizens Advisory Board - August 2026

like to call the meeting to order. >> Everyone from the board is present. Thank you very much. >> Is everybody really here? >> Like to get the motion to approve the agenda. >> Eric seconded by Dave public, you're here on the wrong side, but that's okay. Would you like offer anything early on or should we just wait? >> We'll wait. Okay. Uh let's see. I'm going to change around the new business a little bit and ask Zach Lance for sustainability to Did I get Did I get a board approval? No. Do we vote on that >> on the approval? I got a second get a vote. >> Wasn't that Eric and then Dave? And then >> did we vote on it? >> Sure. >> Yes, we have motion seconded for the approval of the agenda. Anyone opposed? All right, we are approved. public minutes. The minutes approval of last month's minutes. Anybody have any ads, deletes, suggestions for last month's minutes? Can I get a motion to approve? >> Motion. >> Seconded by Lonnie, David, and first by Eric. Okay, new business. I'm gonna ask Zach to start off so he can get back to work. This is enough vacation time. >> Zack, please. Yeah, thank you, sir. Hi, everybody. Um, thanks for having me this morning. Uh, great to see a lot of familiar faces and a new few folks here, too. So, my name is Zach Lance and I am a sustainability coordinator for the city of Longmont. And I'm here today just to give you a real quick update on some of the uh projects that we're working on currently. And if we have time, I'm I'm happy to answer some questions if you have any. And um of course we can always follow up afterwards if you'd like to know anything else. >> So just to set the stage really briefly um what is sustainability? You kind of hear that term all the time but here at the city of Longmont we really think about three pieces to the sustainability puzzle here. So our definition of sustainability is a meeting the social, environmental and economic needs of the present generation without compromising, excuse me, without compromising the ability uh to meet the needs of future generations. So a lot of folks when they think about sustainability, they think about this environmental stewardship piece, right? Pollution, all that sort of thing. But we really also focus on social equity. So getting resources to folks who really need it the most and then economic vitality. So making sure we have a strong community where everybody has the resources they need. Uh and that all comes together of course uh informs our sort of sustainability mission here in the middle. So we do have an office of sustainability here at the city of Longmont. Um it started out pretty small with just one or two staff but we've grown and we are now officially an office or a department if you will uh within strategic integration um is our overarching department. Um so we have several staff now who focus on a few different areas. Uh we have one staff member whose entire focus is equity and engagement. She runs a group called our equitable climate action team. Uh it's a group of volunteers who meet monthly. um we really recruit uh what we call frontline community members for that group. So folks who most often uh bear the brunt of climate change. Um those meetings are in Spanish with English interpretation. Um so we have a lot of folks uh who are coming to those meetings and getting presentations from city staff and then giving feedback on how we can make those programs more equitable, more easy to access for the folks who really need them the most. Um, so that's really big piece of our work. Um, I'm the residential sustainability coordinator. So that's my role. I help anyone who lives in Longmont, uh, find ways to use less energy, so gas or electricity, use less water, start composting, whatever it might be. Um, so my focus is residential. That also includes all of our outreach and communications to residents. So like I'm doing today. Um, >> yes. In return is do you also take care of concerns, complaints that the residential might have of the property, your next property, your neighbors will let it open up. >> Yep. Sometimes um a lot of times there's like other departments who are better suited to answer those questions, but I can certainly help direct them to the right folks. Like we get emails all the time about, hey, the top broke off my trash bin. Well, I can't fix that, but I know who can. So happy to uh help out. Yeah. with whatever you might be thinking of. Um, we do have a a business program. So, we have a sustainable business program. Uh, I believe there's maybe 80 or close to 100 businesses in Longmont who have been certified through that program. Uh, we have a internal sustainability coordinator. So, she focuses on our city operations, right? All the vehicles that the city owns, all of our buildings, all that sort of thing. We have a zerowaste sustainability coordinator. So hopefully everyone has access to recycling now that is required by law now in Longmont. Um so she's doing a lot of work and working on a big campaign with Ecoycle. We filmed some videos which we're going to be releasing even more broadly here in the next few weeks. So she's got a lot going on. And then I put air quality here last with a question mark uh because we're hoping we can hire one more person who will really focus on air quality u which I'm going to talk a little bit more about this afternoon but uh of course it's a big issue uh and a big result of climate change. So there's a question mark on that one. Fingers crossed we'll we'll be approved to grow our team. >> Zach, could you speak about what you do in residential? >> Absolutely. >> That's how we met and I was very impressed by your coming at the house. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, one of the programs I do is um actually with a group of volunteers who have been through a good amount of training with me. Um I send those volunteers out to anyone's home in Longmont to do what we call a sustainable home consultation. So, two of those uh volunteers will come over to your home. They'll meet with you for up to an hour and a half and uh really chat with you about whatever you're most interested in. Uh, a lot of times that's uh reducing energy use in your house. So, how to heat and cool your home more efficiently. Um, we talk a lot about water conservation of course. Uh, and then other things I mentioned like composting or how to get your electric vehicle charger or whatever you're interested in. Um, they'll walk around your house with you. They'll bring a bag of goodies and offer you some, you know, efficient LED light bulbs and air raators to use less water in your sinks. So, install a new shower head if you'd like one. Some small things like that. Um, so a lot of good advice and just another kind of perspective, another expert if you will, a volunteer uh coming into your home kind of helping you identify opportunities. We then send you a report afterwards with what we talked about. And that includes links to, hey, here's that rebate we mentioned for the electric vehicle charger or here's how to do that radon test we talked about or whatnot. So, >> yes. Yes. Is it your group that does the um the sprinkler head evaluations where they measure the water flow and stuff like that? >> So, not directly. So, we uh the city contracts with Resource Central. They're a nonprofit. Yeah. Out of Boulder. They serve like 40 or 50 cities now across the area. Um they train all the staff to do those. We basically pay them uh to run that program in Longmont. They handle all the logistics and it's free. So, if you're not aware, if you have a inground sprinkler system at your home, you can get that inspected for free. Um, they'll look for leaks. They'll reset your timer. They'll make sure everything's kind of dialed in and teach you a lot about how that system works. Um, and again, it's totally free of charge um through a partnership we have. I'm happy to share that info around after and get folks signed up. >> Yes, sir. >> I just uh zcaped my front yard. >> Yeah. Nice. >> And uh put in about nine plants or so. >> Okay. And I eagerly look forward to my water bill. >> And I put the the w the hose in, you know, for the sprinkler system. >> Great. >> And my god, my water went up almost 50% over last year. >> Doing up. >> So something's rolling. >> Could potentially. Yeah. So, uh, most folks now, pretty much everybody has a smart water meter. So, we have very detailed data now on water usage. And one of the great things about that is we can detect leaks. So we can see continuous water usage flowing through a meter and we reach out proactively to those folks to say, "Hey, you might have a leak. Let's check on some stuff." So there's some things we could do, not me personally, but to look into that. >> Who who do I contact? >> I'd be happy to get you in touch if you drop me an email. Um I left a few copies in my business card back there. So our water resources folks, I I don't have the access to log into the system and see all that data. So, but that's interesting to know. It does take a little bit of water to get those plants established that first year, but then once they're up and running, they they really um should go down the following years. So, that's interesting. >> Nice. So, so if it's a Hispanic family Spanish speaker >> and and you say you do miss check, you know, what's working, what you suggest, you know, whatever, there's somebody that goes with you that speaks Spanish to explain to people what's going on and stuff like that. I mean, so they don't hesitate to call because they don't know whether they're sometimes, oh, they don't speak Spanish, so why do I bother? So, we that's what I do. Let them know, you let them know. They will say yes or no, whatever. >> Yeah. So, currently I don't have any bilingual or Spanish speaking volunteers. um if we have a monolingual Spanish speaking home that would like to go through that program or get some of those other resources, we can usually find a staff person who speaks Spanish to come out and do that. Um so I'm hoping uh if you if you all know anyone um any bilingual or Spanish speaking folks who would like to go through my training and become one of my volunteers. Um that's been a goal of ours for many years and we're slowly working towards that. We have to redevelop all of our training materials and make them culturally appropriate. You can't just take everything we we do in English and you know one for one move it over to Spanish. There's other cultural differences that we want to incorporate too. So um we're working on that but we could have some staff. >> So do you do you advertise say we don't have right now that's how out there or someone else can say oh this person >> on our sign up pages? Yeah. that says we're not we don't currently offer appointments in Spanish. Um you're still welcome to sign up and like I said if folks want to go through or or have a phone call with somebody we can certainly offer that but >> but how will they know how >> oh yeah >> they don't know how to call whatever the city committee relations office they can ask. >> So this program is really tricky because I I rely on volunteers and they only have so much time every month. So, I've like promoted uh the program in the city line um you know, citywide newsletter and I get 30 or 40 or 50 people signed up and then I have a really long waiting list. So, I have to balance how much I promote it with how many openings I have and how many volunteers I have. So, I did uh put it in the um senior center email that goes out a few weeks ago and I think I saw a few folks sign up. Um, but like I said, I don't do a lot of uh promotion specifically in Spanish because I don't have the Spanish volunteers right now. So, it's a little bit of a balancing act, but um yeah, you should um start seeing it around more and more as I get more volunteers and have more opportunities. What I want to avoid is having a 100 people all sign up and then saying, "Oh, sorry. Now you have to wait six months or eight months to get your appointment because we don't have enough openings." So, yeah, it's a balancing act, but good questions. Thank you guys. All right, I'm gonna cruise through these next few pieces. Let's see. Okay, so um of course we have a sustainability plan for the city. Uh it outlines a lot of different sustainability targets that we have. I won't go through all of these. Um but some of the biggest ones are 100% renewable energy supply by 2030. Um I could talk for a long time about where our energy comes from and how that's all going. Uh we're going to get pretty close to that goal. We won't quite reach it by 2030, it looks like. Um another big one is 75% waste diversion by 2030. So that means diverting our waste from the landfill and either reusing, recycling, composting it. That's why we have a staff staff person focused specifically on that. And then a 3% per capita reduction in water use. Um we're actually doing really good on this. We're um even though the population of long mom is growing, we're not really using much water. So we're being more efficient with what we have, which is great. Um, so how can you keep track of all that stuff? How can you see what we're doing, what the city's doing? Um, one great website we have, uh, which you may not have heard of is called Longmont Indicators. This is separate from the main city's website. Um, but essentially it houses these, uh, seven plans, I believe. So you'll see the sustainability plan. Envision Longmont is like the city's overarching, uh, multimodal comprehensive plan. Um, essentially you can click through all of these and see all the actions that we said we're going to do and how we're doing on all of them and who's the main contact person for each one. So, um, I won't get into it, but it's very very detailed. Uh, it helps us be very transparent and show you what we're falling behind on, what we're doing great on, what we haven't been able to start yet. Um, it also includes greenhouse gas emissions modeling, which is pretty technical, so I won't get into it, but um, you can actually play around with these graphs in different scenarios and say, "Hey, if we're not able to transition our fleet vehicles to that goal we said we were going to meet, how does that change our greenhouse gas emissions?" And this graph will actually change as you click those things on and off. So anyway, this is how much greenhouse gases Longmont is emitting. You see a huge drop here uh going into 2030 because that is when our coal fired power plant um that we receive our power from is scheduled to go offline. So again, I could talk a lot more about that, but we don't have time today. So, >> but how's that? So that's RAWhigh, right? >> Yeah. >> So Rawhigh is north of here somewhere, right? >> It's almost in Wyoming. Yeah, >> it's up near Wyoming. >> Yeah, I got to do a tour of it. It's insane. >> You open the glass door and it's just this huge fireball >> creating steam, generating electricity, but pollution. >> So, how do you how do you model something that's going to have a direct impact on greenhouse gas emissions in Wyoming? >> Yeah. >> Down to Long Island. >> Yeah. So, great question. Um, my colleague Francancy really leads that work, but essentially there's different tiers of emissions. So there's like tier one emissions, which is emissions that we generate right here in Longmont. So your furnace in your home burning gas to heat your house, this building, the vehicles that are driving within Longmont. That's tier one right here. Stuff that we kind of have direct control over. Then there's tier two, which are emissions that are generated elsewhere, but are generated because of activity going on in Longmont. So we're keeping the lights on and using electricity here. that energy is being generated somewhere else but we're using it and and we're the cause of some of those emissions. So that gets counted but at a different level. Yeah. Uh because you know uh Fort Collins Estis Park they're also using that energy too. So they're responsible for some of those emissions. So it gets broken down all the way along like that. >> Even car trips that come into Longmont and then leave Longmont are counted differently than car trips just within Longmont. So it's very very detailed. Um but that's about the extent of my knowledge. >> Do you look at and and we could talk about this offline but do you look at data center activity >> both current and proposed a lot of that's over east of us but >> not so much in your question if you look at >> because that obviously >> has a projected impact on electricity usage. >> Yeah. And water >> and some and and in some cases they're generating their own electricity. >> Yeah. Yeah, right. >> I would venture to guess that data centers are I would I would say I'm 90% confident they're included in that like tier three or maybe I believe there's a tier three emissions. Um I don't know like specifically for the Longmont context how those are getting factored in or the future piece of that. I'm not sure but uh I know my colleague Francancy would be happy to talk about that. She loves talking about the environmental impact of AI in data centers and she's the one who does this modeling. So, okay. Um, I'd be happy to, you know, get her uh in touch with her if you'd like, but I'd be pretty confident it's in there. It's all a standard protocol that we follow so that we can be compared with other cities and other states and other communities. So, it's not like we just meet this up. It's a pretty rigorous. >> Who actually builds your models? >> Um, so I think Francancy does a lot of this. Um, but this website is, you know, uh, through a company that's Dutch, I think, um, that helps do a lot of this graphing and get it online for us. Um, but our staff person, Francancy, does our greenhouse gas modeling, which we do, I believe, every three or four years. We kind of redo it and reassess where we're at. So, a lot of that's in house. A lot of it's just gathering data that's already out there, um, and putting that all together. So, yeah, it's a bit of a combination, I think. Yeah. Okay. I've got a few more slides here and I I'm sure you guys have other stuff on your agenda, so I don't want to take too long. Um, we have been pretty successful in a lot of our work. So, just to toot our own horn here, um, the climate disclosure project over there on the left, uh, we got an A minus score. We basically again report a lot of the data and things that we're doing. Um, so we're proud of that. Uh Longmont was the very first city in the United States to be um awarded this making cities resilient designation that actually comes from the United Nations. So my boss was invited to go present and receive this award in South Korea. Pretty awesome. Um a lot of that has to do with the resilient St. Brain project after the 2013 floods and how we responded and and are rebuilding and reforming that river channel to be more resilient. So big shout out there for Longmont. And then currently just yesterday we had our kickoff meeting to get Longmont lead certified. So you may have heard of lead for buildings, right? You can have a lead platinum certified building. Well, now an entire city can get in a certified lead. Um so there's about 130 140 cities in the US that have done this. There's only six in Colorado. Um so we'll hopefully be the seventh. I believe Westminster and Commerce City are also doing it right now, but others include Denver, Fort Collins, PBlo County, Steamboat, not Boulder, I noticed. But anyway, um we're very excited to get wheat certified hopefully. I saw that Denver just reached wheat platinum. So anyway, just another designation and way to recognize that Longmont really is a leader, I think, in this sustainability realm. Um, we really benefit from being in Boulder County, of course, and the folks who live here, but um, I think nationwide we can be really proud about what Longmont's doing. I've been to conferences and other events around the country and, um, other communities are not as far along as we are, so we can be proud of being here. Okay. Um, my last few minutes here, I want to talk about extreme heat and air quality. I know it's on everybody's mind these days. Um really loving the cooler temperatures today, but I'm sure you've all noticed we've got some wildfire smoke and uh it's gonna get hot again here in no time. So that's a big focus of my work. So um this is a new visual I put together. You're the first group I've shared it with. Uh it's a little confusing, so I'll try to explain it, but um essentially each one of these blocks here is like a month on the calendar, right? It's 31 days. Um, on the farthest left there is the 2020s. Each column here jumps 20 years. So, 2020s, 2040s, 2060s, 2080s. And essentially the different colors are showing how many hot days we're going to have. Um, so yellow being days above 90, uh, yeah, sorry, red being days above 95, and purple days above 100. So, in the 2020s, we have about a month of hot temperatures is what this is saying. By the 2040s, we got a month and a half, a lot more days in the red, and so on. It's moving up. So, by the 2080s, we can basically expect our entire summer to be over 90 degrees, a lot of days over 95, and two weeks over 100. So, now this is high emissions scenario. So, this assumes we do nothing right now to change our habits and reduce our emissions and all of that. But what really struck me when you think about this is that a a child, a kid born in the 2020s in this decade, right, is going to be turning 60 years old in the 2080s. They're going to be getting older, right? Getting into their 60s or 70s. And we know that older adults are more vulnerable to impacts of extreme heat. So, I have young kids. So, when my kids are getting older and they're retiring, this is what their summer's going to look like if we do nothing, right? Every day is just going to be out of control hot. Sorry, these are supposed to be yellow. I messed that up. Anyway, hopefully this kind of shows you, and I'm sure you'd all agree that Llama is getting hotter. Um, and this is the future we have in store if we do nothing. So, that's why we're here to help try to reverse this trend or or slow it as much as possible. >> So, Zack, Sure. When you say we do nothing, that impact is as much a result of what's going on in Texas with their thousands of data centers. >> Yeah. >> And all the CO and other CO2 producing activities across the country >> than it has much well more than what we do here in Longmont. So yeah, >> how do you figure out what direct impact we can have on that when 99% of that is outside of our control of what we do in Long? >> Yeah, it's a great question. Um, everything is interconnected and we're not going to be able to solve this crisis on our own here. So, um, you know, I think it takes us all being active and voicing our opinion through voting, of course, um, and legislation and, um, you know, I think there's a lot of great stuff going on at the state level and in the western US and, um, I think we just all need to be aware of what's happening and, um, you know, voice our our opinions when we can and, um, try to try to push for change and and tell people that we care and that we want to leave this place uh, better for our our kids. So yeah, it's really difficult. You know, we we can't really separate things cleanly. Like we talked about the tier one and two emissions. It's very similar. Um so they actually take that data and then and do like a so this says high emissions scenario. So we do nothing. We continue to emit as we are now. Um there's other scenarios which are less extreme like if we can reduce our emissions by 10% this is what it will look like. it wouldn't be quite so bad. Obviously, this graphic here is to kind of shock you and drive home the point. So, I chose the worst case scenario, but luckily we're not on a course really to go here with high emissions. Um, I think we're going to be a step or two down from this and more of a moderate um emissions scenario. And I think there's, you know, a lot of great things going on in Europe and other places that are going to help out as well. So, yeah, I wish I had a better answer, but um it's really it's really difficult. Yes. A couple of weeks ago, I uh saw some kind of a report from I forget the name of the international association, the climate association. >> Yeah. >> They they said that the modeling that had been used in the past was making the prediction worse than it probably should be. >> Okay. >> I I haven't seen that. I have been aware. But um >> Okay. >> I guess that sounds good. >> Well, I don't know. Some people are challenging that. >> I just know. I was just wondering if you're >> No, I I'd be interested to see that if you could send it over to me afterwards or >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I can look it up. >> Well, that's good news if it's true, but I don't know if it is. >> Yeah. Yeah. We went back and found some errors in some of our data and it actually made things look worse, but we put that up there. We made it transparent. So, um, yeah, mistakes like that can happen and we're always reiterating. >> Okay. Yes, sir. You you said we have you made a comment a while ago. We have enough water. What does that mean? >> We have enough. Oh, I don't know. Um yeah, so water is a great topic. I could certainly talk about that all day. Um so long story short, we're having monthly water resource check-in meetings. Um we're in a mild drought status right now in Longmont. So that requires the city itself to reduce its own water use by 10%. Uh we're mostly doing that on parks, golf courses, those sorts of spaces. There are no restrictions for residents at this point, although if we were to move to the next stage, there might there would be. Um so Longmont is pretty well positioned as far as our water rights go. Uh water law in Colorado is pretty wacky, and I I won't get into it, but um Longmont's been around for a long time. So we have senior water rights um compared to some other communities which haven't been around for quite as long like Aurora which you see doing a lot of water restrictions. Um we have Ralph Price Reservoir which is a huge asset for us which I believe is full. Um the priority this year was to make sure we fill that that bucket um that reservoir. Um I know some of the other reservoirs in town are a little bit lower but those aren't as important for our drinking water and our water supply. So, um, anyway, our water resources team is phenomenal. Um, I actually just got to go on a tour of all the, uh, West Slope water infrastructure. So, there's a tunnel underneath Rocky Mountain National Park. It brings us water from Grand Lake. I just got to go on a tour of that. I went to Chimney Hollow. There's all these reservoir projects, and it's pretty fascinating how we manage water and how we get it over here. So, we're in a good place. Uh we're in an okay place for now considering the drought. Um if you've been up to Lake Granby, it's pretty low and that's that's our really big bucket, our reservoir for this Front Range area. Um they told me there's plenty of water in there to get us through this summer and next summer. It's got basically one year left of water supply in it, but if we have another bad winter or two bad winters in a row, then we're really going to be in trouble. So, um, yeah, we can all do our part to conserve. The city has again been using those smart meters to identify leaks in our own infrastructure. And I think just among the parks and whatnot, they've they estimate they've saved like four million gallons in the last like month just by going out using that data to find leaks and fix them quickly. So, I've been driving around. I've seen sprinklers going off and leaking and I've been reporting them and telling people and they go out and check them. So, you all are welcome to do that, too. We don't necessarily want to like snitch on our neighbors and whatnot, but um there is a waste of water ordinance. So, if there's something that's clearly broken and just running, gushing water down the street, that's not allowed. They they'll get a warning and then if it's not fixed, there are fines that will come. So, uh we do want to know about that sort of thing. But I got sidetracked. That's great. >> We're in an okay place for now. Uh better than some communities in Colorado, but um yeah, we're certainly still in a drought. And even if we get a monsoon this year, it won't necessarily help us that much. What really helps us is snow in the winter that melts and fills those reservoirs. So anyway, I love this stuff. I could go on and on. Really great questions. Um, but I did just want to touch briefly on air quality. So, uh, if you don't know, there's two primary pollutants here we're worried about in the Front Range. Uh, the first of course is wildfire smoke. um that really comes through as particulate matter, also called PM, particulate matter. Those are very, very fine particles um that can even get absorbed of course into your lungs and into your bloodstream and affect your health. Um ozone is our other primary pollutant. Um when I say ozone, I'm talking about ground level ozone. Um, we've probably all heard of the ozone layer way up high in outer space in the atmosphere that protects us from the cosmic rays and radiation from the sun. That's good ozone, right? We want that. I remember when I was a kid, oh no, there's a hole in the ozone layer. >> It's patched up. It's doing better. Um, but what is dangerous for us is ground level ozone down here where we live and breathe. that's formed when uh we burn fossil fuels, gasoline in our cars, our furnaces, in our homes or whatnot. Um that reacts with sunlight and creates ground global ozone. So it's worst in the summer on really hot, sunny days. Um so my recommendation is everybody should be checking the air quality, especially this time of year. Um a lot of folks use a weather app on your phone that probably has the air quality on it, so you're h you're welcome to look there. Um, I would just double check that the air quality info you're looking at includes both wildfire smoke and ozone. Um, if you're if you see anything that says uh air quality index, that's a good indication that it's an index combining those two uh values for smoke and ozone and giving you one kind of reading. Um, if you're familiar with purple air, they're like sensors you can put around your home and whatnot. That doesn't read ozone. only does. >> Yeah. Which >> there's a couple of other things you can check on, I think. PM10 maybe. >> Y, >> but it won't tell you about ozone. So, you got to make sure you're paying attention to both essentially. So, um I like this one. It's It's from the EPA. It's called Air Now. It's an app you can get on your phone or a website you can bookmark and check. Um you set your zip code. You can save other locations in there. So, if you have family in another community, you can keep an eye on air quality, too. Um, but it gives you a really easy color rating here from green all the way up to kind of this dark color, purple, red, whatever you want to call that. Um, and um, even a forecast of what's expected over the next few hours and the next few days. So take the check this I check every morning. Um, if the air quality is for me in the orange, this is what they call unhealthy for sensitive groups. So, folks with asthma, older adults, kids, um, anybody really, when it gets up to the orange is when I stop opening my windows and letting fresh air into my home because I have young kids. Um, right now when I took this screenshot, it was in the moderate almost into the orange here. So, um, really good way just to keep an eye on the current air quality. Okay. And then just to touch on extreme heat, as I I showed you, it's getting hotter here. Uh we've been doing a lot over the last few years to help people stay cool and safe. Of course, extreme heat can be very dangerous. So, um I just wanted to recap a few things that we've done so far. Um we many years ago, several years ago, did a climate risk map that identified extreme heat as the biggest climate risk facing Longmont. We looked at extreme cold and flooding and wildfire and really extreme heat um was looking like the biggest risk since we uh mitigated a lot of the flooding issues with that resilient St. Varian project um back in 2013. Um we also did a heat watch mapping project where volunteers put temperature and humidity sensors on their vehicles and drove around the city three different times on the same day to map heat islands so we could get data on spots that were hotter than others. We did some bilingual cooling solution workshops where we had big maps of neighborhoods printed out and people came in and told us things we could do to help their neighborhoods cool off. We did a citywide survey. We got about 800 uh responses to that. Uh we had an interactive display out here probably two summers ago. We did some interviews with some folks here including uh just phone and even video recorded interviews. We have a heat action plan that outlines a lot of these different steps that we can take. Um, we've implemented some cooling solutions at parks. So, this photo is a new misting structure that went up at Lion Park this year. So, you press a button on there and it sprays water from the top and helps kids cool off. Uh, it's very safe because there's no standing water, nobody can drown and we didn't have to put any drainage in the ground. So, that was great. Um, but currently we just finished the design for a splash pad at Kensington Park. Um, so that's supposed to start later this year. Again, it'll be a thing where you hit a button, water sprays, great area for kids to play and cool off and to bring the community together. There'll be kind of communal seating areas, so hopefully families can meet, meet a new neighbor, um, see their friends, hang out, and cool off. We also added some shade structures at Spangler Park. Um, we have a really cool cooling tent that I've been bringing to events this summer. We'll be out at Unity in the community. I heard you all talking about that. Uh, we were at Cinco de Mayo and Pride and a few other events. Um, we give out cold water and sunscreen and cooling towels and it sprays mist and people love it. It was a huge hit. Uh, I try to talk to people about how to keep their homes cool during that, but they just want to come and cool off with us, which is fine, too. Like, well, maybe sign up for my newsletter. Um, we have a cool stop bus stop coming which we teamed up with Art and Public Places and uh got a local artist to design a custom bus stop that's fully ADA accessible and approved by RTD and um it's basically looks like a arching sort of sun rays of sun almost but it's meant to provide shade at a very hot bus stop over at Fourth and Martin. I think right across from the the canery there there's that gas station across the street. It's going to go >> third. >> Yeah, third. Thank you. Yeah, it's going to go there hopefully in a few months. Keep an eye out for that. >> And hopefully we're going to do more. It'll be like a series of bus stops. Uh and then we have a keep cool long communications campaign which I won't chat too much about, but that was all stuff where we've done or are are still doing to some some degree. Um, so currently a few of the projects I'm working on, um, we are providing free air conditioners to anyone in Longmont who just really needs a way to cool off in their home. Um, I've had a huge response over the last couple of weeks, especially from folks in uh, manufactured or or mobile home communities. Um, I have a handful of those left. They're going to run out pretty soon. Um, it's not the ultimate solution, right, for the problem, but it helps address that immediate need of needing to cool off. It's not an emergency cooling program. We can't send somebody out the next day to fix your air conditioner or whatnot, but essentially, I'm ordering uh portable air conditioners from Home Depot and having them shipped directly to the person. They arrive like the next day, which is pretty nice. Um, so let me know if you if you know anybody in the community who could really benefit from that. We do then try to connect folks to other resources to make their home more efficient, weatherized, better insulation, whatever that may be. More of a long-term fix for them. Is that um and I guess my question is to the group here. Our resource specialists are they channeling like if somebody comes to resource specialists and says, "Hey, I need an air. I've got problem." Is it getting channel? >> Oh, they use all the resources available to help connect them to those additional needs to make sure those types of what we'll call basic needs are >> I assume it probably was happening but yeah there's what's available here in Long and Boulder County as a whole. So Boulder County does this too. So >> yeah, >> is that an annual program will be next year also? >> Yeah. So we we just started last year. We were given some money to provide home cooling support and um the boss wanted to keep it going this year. So this is our second year. We just doubled the budget because we got such a big response. So I'm I'm pretty sure it will continue um in the future. One hurdle is these things are heavy and they're can be hard to install. So that can be tricky for older folks or people with mobility issues. Um so we're doing our best to figure that out. Um, so if you all know any volunteers or we've teamed up with Cultivate, if you know that nonprofit, they have a few volunteers in town who can help people get these installed, but they don't have any Spanish- speaking volunteers. Um, and 85% of the people who've requested a free air conditioner are Spanish speaking so far. Um, so again, it's a small program. We don't have a huge budget. So I h I'm not able to advertise it super widely. You won't see it in the cataloges or the magazines or anything. I shared it with like three or four community organizations like um the hour center, intercomio is a big one um El Centro Amistad a few others like that and just word of mouth it gets out and then we run out of budget. So um yeah it's small but we will probably continue it. >> How many units did you install this year? >> So far I've given out 40 and I have budget for maybe like 15 more and I saw I got five or six requests yesterday. So, we'll end up doing around 50 or so, and we did about 50 last year. Boulder County has a similar program. So, when we run out of funding, we're going to start sending people to the Boulder County program. The problem with that one is there's there's more hurdles. There's more red tape. They're going to make you prove your income or um they're going to make you sign up for the care program, which does weatherization and whatnot, which is good, but it's it's a hurdle to a lot of folks, especially if you're a renter and you live in an apartment. You're not the one who's going to be, you know, upgrading insulation and doing, you know, deeper retrofits to your space. So, our program doesn't have any of that. You just tell me you live in Longmont and you need cooling in your home and that's enough. Very few barriers. Um yeah, we're also know people are sensitive to even share their address with us right now or their phone number. So there's an option for um folks to request the air conditioner for for someone else. So I've had staff at like the hour center say, "Hey, we have this person who needs an AC. Can you order it and ship it to me and I'll bring it to them?" Right? I don't want to share your address. And I'm totally fine with that. Absolutely. Absolutely understand. So, try to make it really easy for folks to get in the door. Anyway, that's ongoing, but it will wrap up soon. Um, so let me know if you if you know anybody who needs one. Um, growing shade is a really great program where we are distributing free lower maintenance shade trees to folks who live in um certain neighborhoods of Longmont that don't have enough tree canopy that are tend to have fewer trees. Um, that'll be coming up. There's a kickoff event in a few weeks and then the trees will be given out in October. Uh, in order to get one for free, you need to live what is it? east of Main Street and be in an area that has less than 25% tree canopy. So, I'm sorry I don't have a map showing where that is right now, but I can get you in touch if if you think that might be you. We could maybe get you a free free shade tree this fall. Um, that's really powerful because it's really our only way to increase tree canopy and shade on private property. We can do that on city- owned property. you can plant more trees, but that's our way to try to encourage tree growth on private property. You also get a free tree care tool. So, if you need a garden hose or a shovel or anything to care for that tree, you'll get that for free. We're also going to come check up on that tree for 3 years to make sure it gets established. So, getting trees established can be tough, right? If you don't water it properly, they'll die. All that sort of stuff. So, we're working with a nonprofit. They go around, they check every tree, and they reach out to folks if your tree is not looking too healthy. So, they're there as a resource because it can be tough. Okay. And then I'm almost done here. Uh, if anyone would like to get rid of your old, loud, clunky, polluting, gas powered lawn equipment. So, we're talking lawnmowers, uh, leaf blowers, string trimmers, uh, even snowblowers. We have a brand new event coming up on August 15th in just a few days. You can bring that gas powered item to Ace Hardware right here in Longmont. Uh if you bring us a handheld item like a leaf blower or a trimmer, we will give you a $100 voucher for the purchase of an electric uh alternative or replacement. You'll also get 30% off uh from a state tax incentive. If you bring us a lawn mower or a bigger like push gas powered uh tool, we'll give you a $200 voucher. So, we're trying to get these old noisy polluting lawn care uh pieces of equipment out of use. We will put them in a huge dumpster and recycle them. You do have to drain the gas and oil before you bring it to us, please. Um but that's a really great way to reduce that ground level ozone that we talked about earlier. I don't remember where I saw this stat, but uh running a old push lawn gas powered lawn mower for 1 hour is equivalent to driving 11 cars for 1 hour. >> Oh wow. >> So those lawnmowers don't have catalytic inverters. They don't have exhaust systems like a car does. >> So that pollution just goes straight into the air and creates ozone and we all breathe that and nobody wants to listen to their neighbor. So or breed those fumes. So really cool event. We're partnered with Ace Hardware and the Air Quality Council. We have $15,000 in vouchers to give out this time around. So, we can do like a hundred 150 people. Uh, and I hope to do it again next spring. I know we're kind of late in the yard care season. Had to get insurance for this and whole thing. But anyway, bring your stuff out. Uh, there is a sign up form for that just to kind of clean your spot. Um, I'm happy to send that around after. >> But I did this through another >> Yeah, they used to do it mow down pollution. It's kind of a revamp of that. >> I have a question about all of the lawn care companies. Yeah. >> That exist around here. Do they have to meet any certain amount of standard in order because they have big honking >> pieces of equipment? >> Great question. Yeah. >> So for the private companies, no, there are some who specialize in that. That's kind of their niche, right? is they use all electrical equipment and folks can certainly search for those and choose to hire that sort of company. Uh the state did pass a law that requires municipal governments, so city of Longmont to use electric equipment during the summer months for our own parks maintenance and whatnot. Um so a lot of our uh park staff when you see them out there leaf blowing or trimming or whatnot, they should be using electric equipment. I think for some of the larger lawnmowers and types of things, especially for golf courses and whatnot, um it's the technology is not there yet, you know, the battery capacity. So, they're still using some gas stuff, but um not for private companies. They will be required to compost all of their yard waste, all the waste they collect, but not till like 2029. That's part of our universal recycling ordinance to reduce waste. So, that was one of our big goals. So the last step of that is to require landscaping companies to compost all the leaves, all the branches, all the stuff they're collecting. Right now, a lot of that goes to the landfill, which is not great. >> Have you had any deaths related to heat exhaustion this >> any deaths? Oh, um not that I've heard of. Not not in this area, not in Colorado that it's possible. Um there is a dashboard from the state that tracks like hospitalizations and whatnot for meat. Um, we do try to >> push this issue with our public safety department a little bit more, right? We open warming shelters in the winter, but we don't have any cooling shelters. >> Informally, we do, right? Folks can come here during business hours or library or whatnot, but Denver opens up cooling shelters when it gets hot. >> Do you think that you're meeting the need as far as air conditioners or does that need to be doubled or tripled or do you have a feel for that? >> Uh, the the need is certainly there. Um, just seeing the response without even really promoting it has been huge. So, I'm positive there's a lot more need out there. Um, so yeah, I think doubling or tripling could help, but again, it doesn't solve the issue. >> Doesn't solve the basic problem. >> Like I want I sure I'm happy to get you an air conditioner, but then I really want to go to the next step and help make your home more efficient, right? More well insulated, get you a heat pump. So, we've been talking with Boulder County. They have a very similar program. When re when we run out of funding, we'll send people there. I think I said, but they're thinking about their program as more of a transitional program. So, like we'll get you this air conditioner right now to keep you cool in the immediate future, but it's really a stepping stone for us to get you a high efficiency heat pump, which also cools your home or get you enrolled in the weatherization assistance program or whatever it may be. So hopefully we can head in that direction too because I want to go to the the root of the issue. >> Zach, something to keep in mind too is there are actually quite a few homes in Longmont that only have 100 amp service. >> Yeah. >> And a friend of mine is one of them. >> So e pump non-starter unless he pays a lot of money to have 200 amp brought in. So if the city could do anything to help mitigate those expenses. >> Yeah. >> Um good point. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Our office is right next to Longmont Power because that's who we work with the most. So, yeah, I'll bring up that point. Um, yeah, it's a great point. I'm glad plug-in solar got approved. There are some um plug-in heat pump water heaters now need the 220. Um, so anyway, yeah, thank you. Good point. Okay, I'm sure you guys have other stuff on your agenda. Um, as you can see, I could talk all day, but >> Zach, thank you. >> I think that's all I have for now. Oh, there is a Longmont Sustainability Coalition meeting tomorrow. If you want to hear a little bit more, um, come over to Parkway Food Hall at 5:15 tomorrow. It's very casual. There'll be a lot of similar updates, but um, I have a guest presenter coming from Ecoycle to talk about our zero waste campaign. Um, Francancy, my now supervisor, is coming to talk about that lead certification and um, renewable energy credits if you're interested in that. and how Plat River Power has been selling them and didn't tell us they were going to do that. Um, and then I have somebody coming to talk about Vision Zero, which is all about traffic safety. So, if you're interested in any of those topics, um, Parkway Food Hall tomorrow, 5:15, come early, grab some food and hang out and chat. >> Thank you. >> Great information. I got a few copies of my business card, so reach out. I don't have all the answers. I've been here almost Oh, I know. I just had my foury year anniversary. Um, so I will find the folks who do have the answers if it's something outside of my round. >> Give us a date, place, and time uh for the meeting tomorrow. >> The co Yeah. So, it's called the Longmont Sustainability Coalition. It's very casual group. It's tomorrow >> uh 5:15 p.m. >> at Parkway Food Hall. Um, and yeah, we'll start the meeting at 5:15. So, if you want to grab food, We come a few minutes earlier, but it's a great group. We usually get about 15 20 people, all very sustainability minded, and there's time to interact and mingle and introduce yourself. So, you may meet some other folks who are really passionate about whatever you're passionate about and make a new friend. Invite you to come down. >> Z, you going to pass a form around of some sort. I forget what you said about signing up for >> Oh, uh, we mentioned like the sprinkler system checkup and AC program. If anybody wants to sign up for any of this stuff or the the home consultations we offer with my volunteers, uh, just reach out. Just shoot me a quick email and um, I can send you the link to whatever you're interested in. It >> was a great service. They came to our house and did the sustainability. It saved our water and they made some installation suggestions. It's worth it's worth the investment of time. Yeah, it's a really easy starting place and then you can go more in depth from there. >> Plus, they changed all of our showerheads >> and and faucets for us. >> Thank you all. Appreciate it. >> Yeah, appreciate it. >> Thanks for the information. >> Take a minute, >> John. set up for the presentation. >> There's password. >> I didn't even get that far. >> Could be my computer. Take a picture. >> Which one? >> I think you've all gotten a copy of job be presenting to the city council next week at their regular meeting. >> Yes. >> Love to have you all whoever can will be there with us. August 11th 7:00 here. >> Don't leave some notes. >> At 7 o'clock you said >> 7 o' I'm not sure what time we actually present. They try to do that kind of stuff at the beginning before people start >> before they start getting into the weeds. >> Yeah. >> So, the the way we structured this, John's gonna John Higgins is going to go through the first three bullets uh ending up on the food security update and then I'm going to take over for John and talk about our current focus in 26 and going into 27 and focus on three areas that we've identified which we've already been doing really. So, um it's for anyone. So, we'll be focusing on employment outreach and the senior needs survey that uh Dave Bren has been really uh heading that one up very very well. So with that um you want to >> Yeah, let's go back. So the introduction in 2016 the city of Longmont released it envision Longmont multimodal and comprehensive plan. The plan was designed to reflect on Longmont strength and assets and explore future possibilities. On page 13 of this 188 page comprehensive plan states, I quote, "Older adults are set to become the largest segment of the population over the next 20 to 30 years. And they will require housing and need and services that meets our unique needs, their unique needs. Those unique needs in addition to housing, transportation, and sustainability have now come to include food security, employment, and survey surveydriven needs research, which are all areas that the senior center advisory board members are focused on addressing. The law senior center, as you will see shortly, is the city's hub to gather, promote, and disseminate that information to lawm 55 and over the population. So we'll talk about the board's current activities past and present future update on the food security initiative which is our first really significant outreach program for the senior center to bring people here to feed them provide food and what that's generated is the advisory board's decision to push in other areas within employment outreach and a need survey that specifically design decides shows us what senior needs are, what do we really need? And you saw that beginning with a new survey that just went out that we all should have gotten an email for. So the past present focus has been food security, housing, healthcare, transportation, and our current focus 26 27 obviously outreach, employment, and the needs survey. That needs survey again specific needs of seniors. This year marks the 50th anniversary Golden Jubilee of of this facility serving seniors here in Lmont. Roughly 30% It's an extraordinary number. 30% of Lawmont's population are 55 years old or older. In the past three years, over 300,000 seniors have walked through the front doors of this senior center. That number is going up. In 2024, the advisory board began a concerted effort on senior needs. We've been talking for years about transportation housing and the city's been responsive and clearly food security and now in efforts to provide services critical to that community. the food security. We picked that we picked that specifically because last year our we presented in May we had to start at the food table but since then we started that because 9% over 9% of the senior population in Colorado is food insecure and according to Colorado to community food share that that number is higher in Longmont. Here's the issue. One of the issues, older adults who are even marginally food insecure will present as 14 years older than their actual age and it increases the issues about heart attack, asthma, and heart failure. Food security is definitely a health issue. Food Community Food Share, which is part of the Rocky Mountain Food Bank, delivers over 1 million pounds of food each month to Bloomfield and Boulder County. And the majority of that food comes to Longmont. And that number is rising also. Now the city does do things with other nonprofits. Here are the groups they also support. But the demand is outstripping their abilities and those funds are being affected. Here's what we have done here by advisory board. During 18 hours over 12 months, hour and a half every other every one Saturday month, we supported approximately 858 households, fed over 2,000 individuals, and distributed more than 16,000 pounds of food in an hour and a half times a year. What happened at the end of 2025 was the Fresno Senior Center organized food carts inside the C senior center. And after a slow start in January of 2026, they're now up to averaging over 40 pounds of food per day, which would be another 10,000 pounds of food per year. So almost 30,000 pounds of food going to seniors just here at the senior center. And that number is increasing. What's been interesting is as we see the households averaging about 75 80 households, the number of people we're feeding in households is growing. It points to inter growing need specifically. Some of the volunteers, all members of the advisory board have been present at every single food table. It's we we serve this committee, the Steven city council members. We want to thank you very much for being there or showing up. But again, the numbers of people are rising, household needs are rising. >> Just want to make a quick comment and Marta Marino has definitely part of this even though her picture is not up on the screen. >> She's complaining about she's not there showing the that eggs or the >> we wanted to put a picture but her agent said no no pictures of Martha because she's too famous already. >> I'd like to ask John Fman, vice chair of the board to step up and talk about what's happening next. Where do we go? >> Sure. So what we're trying to build out here is really as as many areas as we can influence and focus on that are affecting our seniors. The challenges faces in our senior seniors from a from an economic standpoint, from environmental, from a health standpoint, etc. So there are three areas that we identified towards actually the end of 2025 that uh we felt a strong need to incorporate into our programs and into our advocacy. And those areas, which I'll go into more detail in a minute, are employment outreach and uh and and a and conducting a comprehensive uh and timely needs survey so that we can continue to gain input on what our seniors need and try try to provide as many resources as we can. So why did we decide to focus on these areas? Well, number one is, you know, as John indicated earlier, seniors 55 plus make up 30% of our population. It's the largest population segment in Longmont, and it's the fastest growing segment in Walmart. Uh, seniors over 80, um, that particular segment is is the largest and fastest growing segment of all segments of Walmart, projected to increase by 220% um, over the next I think that was over the next five years. I'll have a slide on that one. Um the other thing we found is u relative to employment is that um nationally about 21% of seniors over 65 are either employed or or seeking work and um of those employed about 38% of those of those people work offline work part-time. I know from some volunteer things that that I do with the senior center uh through the SCTC, I'm seeing more and more people come in um with computer related issues and they want to get more proficient on their computers because they're either um looking for a job that requires some level of computer skills or because they're doing things like sprucing up their resume or applying for jobs and they need to be more computer literate in order to do so. Um along with that um we're finding that seniors are retiring later in life. Um I don't have this particular stat on a slide but I do remember that approximately 20 years ago the number of seniors um that were retiring um at the age of 73 or older was like 18%. And now it's gone up. It's it's more than double. That's 37% that I do not expect to retire until they're 73 or earlier. So, the fact is is that seniors are retiring later and and correspondingly, seniors that have retired are looking to go back into the workforce. Um, and then last but not least, we need to gather data to make sure that we're continuing to target those programs and continue to advocate. So, as I mentioned earlier, Jay Brent has been real critical in working with the city, and I have a slide on this later that shows that we're already impactful in the current needs survey that just came out a few weeks ago, we're already able to impact some of the questions on that and we expect that to continue going forward. I think of all the slides that I'll show today, this one really I think is the most impactful. So when we talk about the fact that seniors represent our large our largest population over 55 is our largest population in Longmont and over 80 is our by far our fastest growing segment in Longmont. This is an area that the city needs to focus on. Now I will say that we could probably have a whole another conversation about what's going on with our population 0 to 19 and 20 to 39. That's also concerning as well. But we're here today to talk about what's going on with seniors and we need to focus on this because it's only gonna as population increases these problems are gonna are only going to be exacerbated. So when it comes to employment outbreaks, some really positive things to note here. Um we had a uh Dave Brennan and I actually attended a job fair that the uh that workforce had in April. these employees were there. These employers were there. Uh we had a chance to talk to pretty much all the employers. Um they're all interested in hiring seniors, some more than other because of the type of work that they do and how they see seniors could benefit them. So as an example, um I talked to a woman that was in charge of 17 branches at U Bank of Montreal, Beimo Bank. She said seniors are critical. She said for two reasons. One is she goes they work hard. she said um and but the biggest thing she said is they're willing to work part-time and most of the tellers they hire as an example are part-time tellers. Okay. I also want to note that um there's a job fair coming up in September September 15th here and that job fair we hope that all these employers will be coming as well. Um we'll have more news on that. on working with workforce and getting a list of those employers, but we do expect a really great turnout there and that's going to be focused specifically for seniors 55 plus during that workshop. Um, switching over to outreach, uh, Lonnie Douly has been doing a lot of great work on outreach. So, that that project's already moving forward, already in flight. Um, what we try to stress during our outreach campaign are really five areas. One is the history of the senior center. We want everybody to know what we've historically done, what we do now, and what we project to do in the future. Um, how we operate with relative to city funding and funding from our friends. Um, what kind of services, give them a brief overview of the kind of services that we offer. Um, recreation activities, workshops, trips, that kind of thing. Um, getting to now, uh, getting involved and and how they can learn more. So we'll we'll leave them with some flyers and things and how they can reach out to the to uh the senior center, how they can contact us, etc. Um the other thing I want to mention is that u Marta has gotten involved now. So we've so Lonnie's approach has really been focusing on Longmont Housing Authority properties which there's plenty of them. So there's a lot of work there to do. We did one to um the uh organization um Village on the main. We did a recent uh uh outreach activity for Village on the main. Very well attended. A lot of great activity there. Mark is going to be working with some Latino organizations in Longmont um and doing something similar u yet more targeted towards the needs of this of the Latino community. >> And they're really enjoying it. those ones that are coming new. They said, "Oh, Jesus." You know, I used to come because I don't want forever. Then she started coming and she enjoyed it that those are part of her herself. So, she's really enjoying coming to the different programs that we have. I attend most of the programs because I want to make sure they're coming. And they do. They do enjoy it. I said, they say, "Yeah, quit being a pain out of pain. Get over here and learn. Maybe you know how to use your phone or whatever." I know that don't do this. somebody's helping them how to use the navigate their their phone. So, so now they are learning they say don't you don't have to speak the language you can crochet, you can sew and whatever and learn to integrate and they'll help each other. So that's what they enjoy. >> Thank you. >> Now I'm going to switch into the the final area with the needs survey. So um the last kind of senior focused need survey that that we had done was in 2023. Um it was good. There was a lot of good data gathered but we identified that um there can be some improvements and there are more survey activities taking place within the city now now that the city has brought that type of activity inhouse right so we have an in-house department that can run those kind of surveys. So we want to have more impact and more influence on those surveys in the future. There's kind of three areas in terms of goals and objectives, right? So we want to number one, we want to assess those needs, right, of our surveys in in a variety of areas, housing, medical, medical care, transportation, etc. We want to then identify what services and programs are not fully utilized or we potentially should look at to address those needs that we've identified and assessed. And then we want to go to the city council, right? So, number one, educate the city council on where we see there are some gaps in the types of services and programs that we could be offering or how we offer those. And then also look at how that might have an impact on uh what folks like Ronnie need in terms of budget, right, to be able to provide the resources, right? because we can have all kinds of great ideas, but if we don't have the budget to provide the manpower that we need to be able to provide those, then then we're probably not going to be providing those services. >> It seems to me, John, that that that survey really critical to helping get more resource resource specialists >> here and of course more office space. >> Yeah. Which is funny because that's remember that time you and I met three months ago when I was taking over. >> Yeah. >> Because John and and and Ronnie very quickly you said two big things I always need, right? >> Headcount and space, >> right? That's that's the only needs we have and that's the only needs we're going to have for the next few years. >> Yeah. >> Um I mean we need more space to provide more services and we need more staff to provide those services. So it's they go hand in hand. Yeah. >> Um, it's not it's not it's not physical items within our facility. It's not any additional supplies. It's it's it's staff and space. >> Yeah. >> What are you asking for this year? >> Staff and space. >> Yeah. Right. >> And they're and they're critical. I mean, for those of us who work around the senior center and interact with staff and Ronnie and and all of that, it's it's obvious. It's it's extremely obvious. You know, for the casual attendee here, probably not so much, >> right? >> So, you know, >> because they're so good >> that you >> unless you can >> are seeing it, >> right? >> Yeah. You can shield or Yeah. >> The average gets masks. it gets matched with with you know adding the technology that the friends added >> added virtually more some more space because the other rooms could be utilized that could not previously be utilized you know like for the classroom that Laura and I teach out of now we could not use it last year >> because it didn't have the technology that we utilized and and putting our class together this year we're able to move to a bigger room right >> and free up the small room for other activities that were smaller. >> So, you know, but but that's that has a very limited lifespan. You know, you quickly fill that up with programming and whatever. And so, the two critical things are going to be space and staff. >> Yeah. >> How many staff are you asking for? What's in your proposed >> if you know I've been asking for two resource specialists the past three years, >> right? >> I mean, that is just to meet the the need in demand from two years ago and that right um for sure two resource specialists um we need more we're we're looking at the current staff we have right now to to look at how we utilize skill sets time availability um job descriptions to to fill some of the gaps that we know currently exist uh um to to troubleshoot and problem solve in real time right because it's We don't have more staff coming in right now. So, how can we get creative with what we do have to uh um meet the needs through throughout the day and so as >> try to be more efficient constantly. Exactly. We're constantly looking at processes, systems, uh um workflow uh to make sure that we're not only meeting needs in real time, but trying to anticipate the the the needs that are coming tomorrow, the next week. uh as mentioned like we're you know thanks to Bianca and our team we're very creative with our spaces of of looking at the data of attendance for programs to say okay well taking that taking a look at tomorrow uh this this room is one of our largest rooms if if the program that is assigned to this space only had seven people sign up and one of the smaller rooms has 12 people and a weight list of seven or eight more you know now we're looking at tomorrow and Bianca does a good job of flip-flopping that so that way we can call those people on the wait list to get them in the program, move them to this space and uh move the other group to a space that really meets that that need. So we're doing a lot of that every single day, but that takes time and that takes energy, that takes planning and skill uh certain skill set as well. So we're just we're constantly moving what we can where we can with what we have. So, we're going to ask for two additional resource specialists. I'd love to have more uh um office staff and we don't need another program. We need somebody who is available, flexible to be that floating person to meet the on classroom meets uh through all all six classrooms um for each hour. Each hour is a different group, right? So, um that's what we need just to function. >> From a space standpoint, has is there any possibility or too early to tell whether something at the new Y facility, you know, new the Y facility if and when the city takes that over, which I think is going to happen eventually. >> Definitely too early to tell. Uh but even then, that's probably going to be a two-year project to get up and running. So, you know, what are we going to do now from now until um 2020, 2028, 2029 to to make sure we're not only meeting those needs, but meeting you're talking about the the growing senior population, but meet current needs, but that the demand that's >> knocking on the door. Yeah. >> So, it's >> I mean, you've seen programs double this year in people attending. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Um, up to this point, we've already had uh over 40,000 visits um through our door. That was just through July, through July. And, you know, our winter programs bring a lot more people in when it's the weather's not as nice outside and everybody's looking to be indoors. Um, you know, we have a lot of vacations, a lot of everything going on in the building. So we we I don't want to say thin out in in the summer months, but uh in the cooler temperature seasons, we definitely have a lot more participants in our building. So um and we're still doing it with our same our same staff, right? Uh five resource special three resource special five supportive services staff um and three uh three recreation programmers in our in our front office team. We pretty slim. Do you do a presentation to the city council? >> So that that's more so the budget well through budget defense too. So, um, not directly to city council. When we look at the advisory board, all of this >> I thought was the first time we did it was the first time they really had one done for them, >> right? And so, we cover those things, the population, we're hitting, all those targets here again of what the needs are, who we're serving at what rate, and what's knocking on the door, and we need more, right? >> So, it always works in organically. They're pretty uh pretty aware through through Christina's presentation. She's at council every week. um through what she's communicating to assistant city manager where she's communicating to city manager um what gets communicated to advant I'm sorry city council and we have uh council member Popkin you know and through different spaces um um the council members and even mayoral fairing u just in passing when I see her at the city manager's office we'll ask questions about you know challenges what we're seeing what we're facing what's what's life like And so, um, >> updates. >> Yeah. And so, so they're aware. >> Okay. >> And, um, it's just tough decisions everywhere. Budget, but, >> um, I we all understand that and we just know we know who we're serving, you know, and what's what's coming. >> Okay. Thank you. So on this slide here, I I just say, you know, I'm happy to inform that this year's community survey that just went out a couple of weeks ago, we were able to influence that. So there were from Dave working with Lin Yarnney um specifically from the city we were able to influence about six questions in this year's survey so we can get better more uh quantified data from from our senior community and use that to help guide some of our actions going forward. We expect that to obviously continue and have more influence into the surveys going forward. Um so in summary um as you well know this the senior center has a a very lengthy track over 50 years 50 years this year um providing services to our senior community over the last probably 20 years but specifically the last 10 years we've seen just an explosive growth in our senior population. those baby boomers, right, which was the largest segment in in in population growths from the 40s, 50s, 60s going forward, right? They've all aged out into our senior uh population now. So, we're seeing that and obviously that's having an tremendous impact on the senior center. That's why Ronnie continues to ask for people and space because it's straining our capabilities to provide those services. um your advisory board, you know, is committed to trying to help any way we can, working with our senior staff or I'm sorry, our city staff in providing services and uh programs to our senior community and advocating for our seniors. Hopefully with the slides we showed you earlier, we we've had a tremendous amount of success success and expecting to have success going forward. So, my last question I was going to ask this city council is is does this does our focus mirror what you're seeing with your constituents in Longmont? Do you think we're on the right track? Do you have any suggestions, comments? Um, to the extent that you can comment now, we'd like to hear back from you with that. >> One question I didn't see answered in there. You may not have a way of getting it, but is there any way you could have the data that reflects how many volunteer hours seniors are currently providing citywide and in what categories are they working as in professional or you know technical or whatever because I think that would make a good a big impact also on employers to see there's all these these seniors actively volunteering in areas they may need. They may be employable part-time. >> That's that's a good point. In the 2024 area agency book they put out, it's $116 million of donated time by seniors in Longmont. 116 million. It's the highest dollar amount of volunteer time in the county. >> Wow. Figured some. How's that calculated? >> They want they did they did a survey in three areas. Caregiving, normal regular volunteering and child care. They had those those statistics gathered because they did conversations in the community >> before they submitted that. Does does every agency track and report to them or >> TripleA area agency does that across the county and all the area agency do that does that in their own areas there's a number of them here in in Colorado but specifically when they did the one in Boulder County with far exceeding what what Boulder the city of Boulder and was providing in child care in care services volunteer hours >> so the calculation is is x people times y hours times >> $16 and something per hour. >> Okay, that that was one of the things I wanted to get at was what was the dollar amount per hour on the you know an average kind of thing >> probably minimum wage. >> So it's probably upwards of that. >> Yeah, I'm sure it's higher now because that was that was the minimum wage back then. So it's significant. I mean it's a lot. >> Yeah, it's significant. >> So it's good it's a good good question. >> Yeah. and and the vol the even just the number of volunteers here at the senior center uh you know the people who are manning the front desk and doing this and helping staff and and stuff like that. >> Well, we have it for SCTC. >> Yeah, Michael. >> Yeah, you follow you you follow that. >> Yeah, we do have the hours on that. >> It's significant. Yeah, >> we'll talk we'll touch on that briefly on on the agenda. The board inreach, we'll talk about that in just a second. getting to know more about that. But any any issues, questions, things you'd like to see covered? >> Yeah, >> the decision was to start with something we've done concrete with the food tables and leading to what our expectations are going forward. >> So, anything you want to add to that, please feel free to do that. >> Can I Can I get the Oh, sorry. >> No, go ahead. >> I says, can I get the friend's new logo to you so you can add it to the We can >> Okay. >> I don't know if we can we can for a city report as a city report. Um you can we can highlight them as a sponsor for program. >> That's what I was thinking. It it needs >> that way. So if there's a way to going back to >> program services if there's that there is a space there then you can put the friends logo there that the impact they have supporting the services. working it in that way. Piggybacking off of it. >> Yeah. I I just think it needs to be there. >> Yeah. >> Outreach. >> We were mentioned specifically. >> Yeah, we could put that would be a good place because friends is doing outreach. Actually, your outreach >> in some areas is is >> different. A little different, but we're piggybacking on it. Right. >> Right. I mean, we're, you know, we're in this, >> we're working together. >> Yeah, we're in this together. So, >> so that would be a good one. We're talking about filling in the gaps with current budget, you know, just that's a good highlight there of the impact that those resources have on the support services and the recreation services. Mhm. >> Um >> but with this city report, I think it has to be framed that way >> and and the more recognition that that the friends have because we're able to raise money is all good for everybody. I mean, it's all good. It goes to programming. You know, eventually we'll get around to a capital campaign and so on and so forth. And a lot of people just don't know about you guys or us either. So, >> well, they know about you in the go magazine because you're in there. >> We're in the go. >> You're in prominently. >> You know, let me suggest another thing that I've been thinking. Yeah. >> Because of the people that we have coming from Boulder or Lafayette that they enjoy it and they don't have it. So, I think one of our outreach is to go visit Boulder. go visit. I'll just take care. This is the program that we have, you know, so they can get started on some of that what we're doing so we don't have the influx of other people that we don't want to, you know, um say we don't want you here because, you know, you're not, you're not long. >> Yeah. I mean, sometimes they feel we can't because we're not from Long, >> but they are wanting to come here because they enjoy what we have here, what we do. So I think one outreach that we as a board of whoever went to do that talk to them over there. Hey this is what we're doing. Your folks are coming here and you want them to come then scoop up something over here so we can get them and then help us generate money because we're taking their people where they should have those services. They should have a senior providing what we provide. Don't you think? >> That's right. It's it it varies by city city pri different city priorities. Um >> and they're giving look at the money. >> Right. Right. So that's just how they're they're structured differently. We prioritize it differently here in Longworth, right? Um you know I I I am in process of collecting information from surrounding um B County, we'll say centers because they're not all senior centers. Good example would be uh Lewisville and Erie, which is just a a space designated inside their rec center uh for senior programs versus us being a stand facility. Boulder has two different locations, smaller locations, but trying to collect that that information and data just to see what they produce. Uh and not not comparison just to see with the resources they have available um staffing how do they how do they utilize their resources to provide um those those services to the community and I just I think that be that's good for all of us to um senior managers to just to see how we're utilizing our resources and maybe we get you know generate ideas from each other when resources are very limited and very limited right now so we're just all in problems solving mode and um that's all we're doing is trying to make the best of what we have and I just want to pick their brain. I want to know what they're doing. >> Any any ads or things you'd like to see different? Lonnie, you had a question about the presentation. >> So, is this what you're going to be showing this city council? >> Okay. I'm going to advise you on something. >> It's going to go fast. >> Oh, yeah. >> It's going to go really fast. And as much as you want to explain things further and kind of branch out on every topic, I would stick to the to what you have >> because you can easily, like Zach said, he could talk about stuff. We all can. We get excited about it. We go off, you know, we want to explain it a little more. >> Yeah. In order to get it all in, you have to really stick to what you've got on paper in front of you. And you can say, you know, I'd love to go into this more, but I, you know, I'll be happy to speak afterwards, anything like that, but um really try to stick to what it is. That's a lot of information and it's very comprehensive and it's very informative. It's also very tight. >> Yeah. Typically what >> yeah what you want to do is uh on a on a slide is just basically you know highlight right >> right they can read the slide as well as anyone >> right they can be reading it while you're speaking >> but there's usually a one or two highlights on the slide >> that that you'll want to kind of pop >> and then just stay on that and then let them >> and what you could do is you could tell them that if they want if any of the council members want you to send them the presentation. You can email it to them. >> They they'll have it. >> Oh, good. >> Part of your packet. >> Oh, good. >> Good. It's well presented. Very understood. And if they don't know, then they'll open their eyes and understand. And by then participating here with the food distribution, they know. They know. >> Yeah. And that's no question about it. >> That's the point. Starting with the food table, starting with the momentum is building. We need you to focus. You've come here to the food table. We need you to focus now on job secure, all the things we want them to hear about, >> right? It's like opening up the door. >> Yep. We really want them to pay attention to what's going on here. And the fact that as 30% of the voting population >> pay attention. >> Yeah. >> So more and more they get they get all this information from us. Well, that's an interesting thing to bring up because >> older Americans do vote more, >> right? >> Yes. As they're that 30% of the population votes more, >> too. That's our hope. That's our hope. They actually recognize that. >> Yeah. It's not just 30% of the population. It's 30% of the >> what's higher of the voting population. Kids under 18 don't vote. So that's data too that >> needs to be collected. >> If if you have any suggestions, great. That it's a great one. Part of the reason we wanted to do it today was to get the wind out of our sales. >> Right. Exactly. And that's a great thing to do first because you get that opportunity to kind of >> think about what you're saying and hear what you're saying and then you say, "Okay, well, I could cut it back here. I don't need that much information here." And it's like practicing. I mean, that's what you did. You did a dress rehearsal. Y >> I think you hit on the way everything is framed is perfect and you both did a great job with the with the recommendations feedback from the board to capture everything. You have the right amount of information and great great feedback and suggestion is to not overload in one space. You hit on you provided the right pieces of information to make the point for each of those uh um for each of those slides. Um, yeah, don't worry about digging into that unless there's a chance they'll probably they'll because you're on the agenda, there should be time for them to ask questions after if they have it. Um, but you're knowledgeable. You have this information and look how quickly you just pulled that out of your back pocket for how many hours for for volunteers that come out of law, right? and you know um over 300 visits in the past three years and just these things you are the know you you are the you are the keepers of knowledge of with that information in that conversation and I'll be there if you need me um as well um and if we don't know it's okay well we'll get back to you on that one we'll get back to you um and we don't have to if we don't know it right there we don't have to um panic to to to try to get that information right you know, >> we just know it's a lot, right? That's the thing is, you know, it's a lot of people, but I'll get you that exact number if you need it. >> So, I'm gonna meet Popkin tonight on another topic, >> but would it help if I gave him a because I don't think anybody's council's seen this? I mean, is it if I just share with one person that doesn't break the sunshine, right? >> I would hang on to it. I just present. I don't know if I put it in his hands right away. >> Okay. I I would especially with it being next Tuesday. >> Yeah. >> I don't know what that could or may or may not do. >> Okay. >> But the council when they're here and in a participant, they enjoy it. They speak to people Spanish or English or broken whatever and they enjoy. I tell them little stories about them and I feed them. Oh, this one this one that and they they really enjoyed. One of the counselor brought his little kid and his puppy enjoyed it and they really enjoy and it becomes personal to them that they're you know connected with the community makes it >> right when you when you sent this out to us whenever that was two days ago. >> Did Matthew Popkin get copied on that? >> On that one I usually put him in it. I can't remember if he was or not >> because then he that means he's he has the presentation. >> Uh he may or may not. Let me see. actually may not. >> Does not know. >> Oh, okay. >> Oh, good. >> Right. Thank you. >> Okay. So, any input? Let John or I know if you want any changes, additions, if anybody can anybody like to be there on the 11th? Be nice to be able to point to the audience and say, "Here are our members." >> Be there >> because I'll ask you to put up your hand >> to show show everybody our concerns. And that's what this is the momentum we're trying to pick up. Pay attention >> right >> how what percentage of older Americans 65 and above vote? >> 78%. >> So 78% of that 30% is voting which is much higher than the younger population that votes. So they need to pay attention to that 30%. >> And all that just came down. Yeah. Um, >> yeah. >> So, we will >> this last uh midterm. Um, and they they also looked at the I'm just looking online. >> We'll we'll make that point as best we can. >> All right, moving along. >> I just want to say good job on this. Very good job. That is so complete and so thorough and you've done a really good job putting the right information together. You know, not the right, but I mean the important information together. I I want to commend you both and everybody else who worked on it. If anybody else did, you did a really good job. >> This is something we can save and use for a lot of different things, >> not just the city council. >> This is something we can refer to other people and, you know, if people have questions, this is a full compact >> packet. So, congratulations. You did a very good job. >> Thank you. We're hoping that it might be a bridge to be something you do in the at the outreach that we can show that to people, >> right? >> Um and and >> in conjunction with the friends are doing with their new logos and their new brochures, whatever. >> What's what's fun to see is seniors getting more involved and it's fun to see the city council show up. They've been in every single one of these. >> The mayor's been at least four or five. So, they are paying attention. We just need to keep the momentum going. So, >> right. >> Thank you. Yeah, you can do a couple >> to to please put Marta's picture. >> Moving along. Um, we the friends have paid for a booth for us in the unity of the community August 28th from 4 to 8. I'm looking for we're looking for volunteers that can help man the booth, personal booth, be there. So, the friends have already signed up to do some help there too and thank them for paying. >> I will. Oh, I know. The excuse of your son's wedding. Come on. Go ahead. >> That's more important. >> Can you believe that? Oh my god. >> You can get there late. >> Lonnie writes an excuse to say, "Look, Lonnie said I didn't have to be there, right? >> For the reception." >> My father used to say that he had five girls who said, "I don't need to be at the wedding. I can get another at the reception." >> I saw Lonnie put up her hand. What was the time? >> 4 to 8. So >> 4 to 8. >> The the the information from from the chamber is coming out slowly. The week of the 17th is when they do the where we're going to be and what have you. But I just need to know people who be willing to be there. Probably 3:30 to 8:30 set up and tear down. >> Yeah. So I can I can I can't stay till late, but I can cover the first couple hours. >> 3:30 to 6. >> It'll probably help to be there for the setup. >> Yes. Thank you. >> You can take off. >> Anybody else? I think we have four or five people with some friends also who are going to be there. So, we'll share make sure lots of tables and chairs and >> I'm going to see if Zach's going to have a booth. Maybe he can share some of the share the water stuff with us. We'll see. I'll ask um we have a tent. >> We'll set to the tent. >> That's cuz you have the tent. Okay. Okay. Great. Thank you all. >> Um we voted on having the >> Do you put her down? Yeah. Oh, >> I did. >> All right. See, you know, we all voted on having the Latino community committee set up. We'll ask Marta to start to speak to that and write what's going on that community and submit that as part of our standing committee's reports next time. I was out of town on the 16th got back on the on the first met with you but been telling people you know about it. I've recruited three people that are interested in applying for the board. >> Great. >> Yes. >> Good. Excited whatever but it's not publicized yet until September I think. >> When is the next interviews for advisory board? >> I'd have to look. Um usually in the fall right? >> I thought it was September or October. That's what actually is it November? I thought it was November. >> November. >> I think we start advertising in October. >> November interviews are November. >> The applications were going to be out until September. That's what the city told me. >> I'll check that. >> I'll check for sure. Okay. >> Um bylaws. Christina was going to check with the city attorney to see where that was. >> Yeah. Um, so I have some uh we'll be able to go through everything and I can do a report on that um next board meeting. >> Next one. Okay. >> I just got a response. So I have to go through everything. >> Okay. >> Is that okay? >> Yep. >> Okay. >> And advisory board in reach. This is some clever way to say it came up here. How do you know how many volunteers here at the senior center at various activities? 300. >> There's 300 people volunteering. And so I thought about asking various groups that do things here to come and speak just for a few minutes to let the board members know what else is out there. I mean there's peer support. They have a whole mental health support group whatever. So I'd like to put aside if we can if you're okay with that every other board meeting whenever we can to hear what other volunteers are here what other groups are here. I went to a volunteer appreciation to others who have been there. There were 150 people there. That's half the number of volunteers here. What do they do? So I want I'd like us all to hear about so we can talk to other people about what groups are doing here. That's the clever head advisory board inreach. What's here that we don't know about or we'd like to hear more about. So that's just to mention that to you >> and that's important for the board to know. >> Yes. what other groups are doing, right? You know, and join and what what are the seniors about so important that this the senior the boards know, oh, this is maybe I should go and stop by. I mean, we're talking about momentum, the outreach loan, we're beginning to do there to be able to talk about what other groups are here, what not just what the senior center provides programwise, but of volunteer opportunities of which clearly there's a lot >> because they have, you know, every time there's every month there's a birthday to somebody, you know, there's two, three or four and they come together and bring something and celebrate those individuals. Yeah. Whether it's your birthday, anniversary, whatever. By the way, tomorrow is my 60th anniversary. >> Congratulations. >> 60. >> Are they doing anything? What? >> I'll let you know when I do something. >> Along those lines too, a lot of people have asked me how how do you become a volunteer at senior center? And I don't really know the answer to that. I just kind of look through the go and see but they have questions that I can't answer that's more than enough you know they they ask me like I mean what's available that you know about or I want to know more before I call that number you know >> what we'll be helpful to their commitment people are interested in the surface level information to direct them to staff we don't want our boards any boards to be the experts with providing the informations, how to how it processes, uh um what what is is not available. It's just a >> I don't know. I think just a friendly conversation about >> Yeah. >> You know, the variety of everything. We have trips, we have help for setup, take down for our our events, for for our programs, for information uh information booth. So table, I should say. So there's just a variety of everything. just what you know we just we're interested and see where that fits with it. >> Is there a list anywhere of things that you're looking for or just >> training programs that they have to go through for anything or >> it's what do they want to do? We have one who just says I want to help sort out the dose when they come for for delivery. And so we will just walk them through that. It's not a training process for anybody. It's just that well this is let's show you how we do this and they >> they do that. >> So there's no we need AB or C. It's a I I would like to volunteer. Where do you need me? And that's what the conversation is of okay well what is your interest? What can um what are your skill sets? What do you what would you like to do? And we see where that fits. Do they just show up at the at the front desk and ask >> show up at the front desk and front desk will point them to uh depending on what it is who that point of contact. We again we have with our staff we have we utilize different volunteers differently. Uh if if it's for peer support then they would go to to Kaylee, right? If it's for I would like to be a triple leader, then they go to Terry. So it's just front desk helps navigate that. >> So show up at the front desk and ask. And what I've had questions about is simply um what am I committing to? >> You know, what's the commitment? So, >> right, what do you want to do? >> Right. Exactly. >> But as long as they don't have to worry about talking to someone, >> you know, needing to know commitment first before they talk to anybody, >> right? Well, it depends. That's fine. >> We got John Pilman over here. Let's talk to everybody. >> That's why he's with SCTC helping everybody who comes through the door. Right. So, just what are the needs? What are the skill sets? What do you want to do? >> Just come and find out. >> Join a group. Join. Join whatever. >> Okay. >> So, there's nothing online that Okay. >> Yeah. >> I'm trying to get everybody on. >> Yes. We then uh we do have to work with um with depending on what the volunteer support is, work with our our human resources team because volunteers have to be vetted through human resources to do that work. So, we we connect them with that. process. >> And on that note, man, the manager report. >> And so we have I'll start with just a message for Matthew Cin, council member Cin here today. Um he had a schedule conflict. And so he just wanted to share with everybody uh to let everybody know that uh the RTD officially approved the new uh AL Pro Express Bus from Denver International Airport to Longmont. That will that service will start September 27th. >> That's will have two stops. A Kaufman and Longmont Park and Ride 8:15 Main Street. So, the route map schedule is attached and I can send that out to the board after this meeting >> and it is $10 for an adult, $135 for seniors 65 and greater >> with ID and proof of age and free for children 19 years and younger. >> You'll send it out to >> Yeah, I'll send it out to everybody. >> Can you repeat it? >> And I'll send it out to you. So, it is $10 for adults, $135 for seniors 65 and older with proof of ID. >> 65. >> It's not 55. >> That's not nice. >> And free for children 19 years and younger. >> Go for that one. He also wanted to share last night, city council discussed the preparations for Sundance Film Festival from transportation and construction to local business support and public safety. City council will be discussing short-term rental policies uh policy updates next Tuesday. So, the the meeting will all be at anyway, so you'll get to hear it all firsthand. Um, in late July, the city moved forward with acquiring the former YMCA to create a new recreation center. This investment specifically comes from the recreational impact fee fund, which is revenue collected from new development fees in Longmonts for investments specifically for new recreational facilities. Unfortunately, building a new rec center is fundamentally different uh a different equation than that wasn't even close to bringing uh being in the budget. closer to 70 70 to 80 million rather than 8.4 million for this acquisition and estimate and estimated development costs. So no new no new or increased taxes are needed which is that's good to know. Uh after the agreement is finalized the city expects construction to take 12 to 18 months to complete it before it opens. So, well, I guess we'll find out more when the city expects. >> Well, I guess when the agreement is finalized, right? Um, >> it's not finalized. >> What's that? >> It's not finalized. >> No, this is after the agreement is finalized. The city expects construction to take 12 to 18 months. So, I wonder when that how long that process takes and maybe we'll hear more about that next Tuesday. >> So, he just wanted to share that with everybody. >> Did he did he say the 8.4 4 million is just the purchase acquisition, >> not the rehab. >> Right. Well, I don't know if that includes that. I guess you're right. 8.4 for the acquisition, I'm sure. And estimated developmental cost. Sorry, that piece. So 8.4 for acquisition and estimated developmental cost versus the 70 80 million for a new center >> for new. >> So well, how do we get a developmental? me. So, um I'll send this out to you as soon as I'm done with this report. So, you'll have that in your inbox as well. Um for my report, I just want to go through a few things. So, we have our new go, which arrived during closure. It's out here in the lobby. And so, once we leave here, I'll make sure every board member gets one and it's our fall go for September through December. Um the cover is a really neat cover. It has just small a collection of all the different gold covers over the past 50 years on one cover, which is pretty cool. >> Yeah. >> So, um take a look at that. >> 2026 maintenance closure. Just want to share what was done in our facility. Uh we got new windows in room A, new windows in room B. Um the trim, not in this room, of course, not in this room. Uh we had a they started painting the trim and the window sills around the facility to to match the paints in the in the bill room and the lobby. So it's kind of like a grayish color that matches this carpet versus the maroon which is on the window sills and the door frames. So um half of our building has gray has gray uh uh um door frames and window sills and the other half will take place next closure next year. Uh we also had just our normal annual cleaning. So carpet cleanings, the cleaning the tables, the windows, the chairs, um as well as our gym floor being replaced. Well, they they strip it every year and redo it. So it was we got a lot accomplished this closure and it just this building feels great. I know a lot of you since I've started um a lot of you on the board, I'm sure you've seen a lot of transition, Dave, since you've joined the board four years ago as well. And it just feels good. And even when we had um we we had Zach in here, he's like, "Oh, wow. You guys got guys have smartboard." He's like, "That's a huge upgrade." He even mentioned, I don't know if you heard him before the meeting, he's like, "Well, before these," he said, "I remember coming in here and the the the projector died out on me, so I just had to wing it." And so um so it's just it's good to know where we're at and that's why we don't have any major needs right now outside of uh staff and space. >> You know I will say too that >> which is a good problem to have >> this facility is really wellmaintained >> and if you want to see a stark contrast go down to this go to the civic center over at 350 Kimbark and walk through their atrium area it's it needs a lot of help. So we got a lot done during closure. Uh we were in our presentation mentioned the impact the this advisory board had on developing those questions. Just want to share the information I received on the survey that there's no results yet that they're still there at that point they were still receiving um receiving uh responses but at that point it was communicated that uh that this year's response doubled the 2024 responses which is which is good to know that we're getting assessing a great pool of our community. Um the goal is to have an October presentation to council on those data results. So October we should hear um hear more about that information. We also heard more about um we heard more about the the needs for senior employments. Just want to share where we're at with the job fair uh job fair information. That's we are the job fair information here out of the senior center. So, it is going to be in the city talk article August 10th. It's just a little blurb about about um about what this opportunity offers, right? 55 and greater job fair here at the senior center September 15th from 11 to 2 and an opportunity to meet with employers, an opportunity to have uh your your resume reviewed and and interview strategies as well. Ronnie, the October presentation to the council, is that just on the results of the survey or specific to the senior center report uh results of the survey? Okay. >> Yeah. >> And then last impacts. So also just want to share back to you know just what we've been talking about for the past 6 months 7 months just the the challenges that we're seeing from uh you know our seniors and just the cost of living and just the impact it's having. Uh so what we've seen from our resource specialists is just it's not really a trend but we noticed in June we saw a little bit more of that. Uh we're just hearing more just the impacts how rent is impacting uh the possibility. Uh unaffordable housing for many seniors uh struggling to keep up with util utilities and rent. So we have you know a lot more requests coming through for last resort supports to pay uh some of pay for some of those utility bills. And uh there has been a couple individuals walk through the door asking or sharing that you know they want to return to work but um they are having tr either trouble getting interviews or >> just the true state of their physical abilities and the impact that has on their ability to go back to work as well. >> Yeah. find comment real quick on that from what I've seen just again the SCTC lab we see get a lot of those because they're wanting to sharpen up on their skills but it's interesting like one person in particular wanted to get back into his old career but he admitted that it was extremely difficult a age discrimination's out there and and he's you know he's champ he's running against you know kids or not kids but young adults that are in their 20s that have tried to do the kind of job that he was doing when he retired at say 65. Right now he wants to go back into it. And so I was like well have you considered maybe wanting to do something different you know that's outside of your historical you know he was a process automation engineer and that kind of thing. So, so you have to kind of manage expectations, right? >> What you're capable of. >> And so that right, that's that's the conversations is managing expectations with ability, with skill sets, with >> uh uh um opportunities that do or do not exist right now, right? So, it's just so it's not an ongoing trend. It's just something that was noticed um as we're going through the the data for June. Ronnie, is is if you as you see something like that that employment is becoming an issue, does that figure into your request to the council for additional staff that you're able to focus on an area you see coming? >> More seniors need work. How do we >> It's hard down to I mean, if we're looking at the needs, right? The work that this board has done is really nailed down on huge ones right now, which is housing, transportation. Uh um uh um um and it's hard for us to be experts in one space, >> right, >> and help problem solve just that one thing when there's a lot of resources that that that provide those supports. Um, what I mean is it's it's a better use of our staff and skill sets and can meet more needs when we are helping connect the supports that do exist for all these different needs. So being able what I guess what I'm trying to say is we're able to support more seniors in our community when we are um knowledgeable with all these different resources versus just one. If that makes sense. So, can it impact it? And that's just another layer of we need more staff because of, >> right, >> we need more staff because we're seeing more needs in all these different areas and we need to help connect those dots uh connect those dots for the for the resources that do exist that can help support uh meeting basic needs for seniors in our communities. And that's really what it is is basic needs. >> John, look at it this way. I mean, if you could see an incremental growth in employment need, >> right, >> and then coupled with some sort of, you know, financial assistance need and and this need and that need, I would imagine that adds up to an FD >> resource resource. >> I mean, it's opportunity well for uh workforce, right? Uh it's an opportunity for us to partner closely with them, close serve with them. like when we're over here talking about space, you know, how do we lock up one room for just employment specifically when, you know, we have that partnership with Polar Workforce. Um, it just an opportunity for us to strengthen that relationship and uh um two providers. Yeah, we that's actually in our a little bit of that's in our report to try to work Dave and I try to work more closely with them >> and then report back to you to say, "Hey, this is could be a way we can get more things channeled more efficiently over to work force because they've got the resources to handle it, >> right? And versus us being the expert or in that and meeting that one specific need, is there an opportunity for us to um to to program them >> in our in our in our goats and give them space to do presentations, give them space to um that same same as our as as the food table, right? We didn't need to create the solution. We need to partner with that support to provide the solution. And then that's just that that would be another opportunity to provide that extension. >> Yeah. >> Sounds great. >> Always better to join with somebody who's already doing it, >> right? >> You know, the expert. >> Okay. >> That's it. >> The area agency and agent did not meet in July. So there's no report. They take off that month. John Friends report. >> Yeah. Um, I'm not going to spend much time on it since it's in a nice little recap here for everyone. Um, I thought the Jay Cox presentation from High Plains Bank was was quite enlightening. Um, I mean, the bottom line is we're a benefactor from the relatively strong um, investment market right now. Return on investment's been very good, right? um donations have not been that I mean we knew this going in, right? Donations have have not been really where we want to see them currently, but there are a number of programs in the works um with friends to um do more outreach and and to boost your donation whether it's one time over coding. So I was very pleased to say that. Um, >> that's been a real strong focus for this for the friends under Karen Rooney is developing the ability to market market donations here and it's just starting to build some momentum with the new computer programs they have. Yeah, >> pretty extraordinary where they're going. >> Yeah. Um, just wanted to point out kudos to y'all for for providing the $300 >> um for us to be able to uh have our booth at unity in the community. So, we're looking forward to that. >> Unanimous support for that, by the way. >> Thank you. >> And, uh, >> thank you guys. >> Uh, Golden Jubilee. Let's see. Um, oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, uh, looking for inspirational speakers, I think. >> One of those potentially was, uh, somebody I work with, Bobski Mam. >> Maybe I have him. Do you have any update on that? >> No, Karen's really working on that, contacting people. Um and uh I had brought up the possibility of contacting Carvin Ramirez. I don't know. Um she's such an inspirational person. >> Yeah. >> Um but we're wanting to do the day before um the Golden Jubilee se celebration a uh gathering for our our donors, a donor appreciation event. um to talk about the golden jubilee and also thank them for giving and that's where we want to have an inspirational speaker. So if you know anyone who is inspirational and a speaker and wants to speak on why we should give um and why giving is good to the friends for the senior center um that would be greatly appreciated as we're looking at approaching people. I do want to spend a second on on what the board did to the friends board did on changing one of their donation categories to reflect the food cart. That's a big deal. And now they for years it's been general STC whatever. But as of the next printing of donations they're going to include the food cart supporting that. >> Yeah. So the genesis of it was people that for whatever reason could donate food but said, "Hey, I'll I'll chip in 20 bucks or whatever." >> They've now got a a >> take that track it. >> So you can now donate money >> and you can take it now. >> Voted and we can now take it. Yes. >> And and specifically for >> for the food cart there's a there there are four designations. wants a a general a general uh STC SCTC is another one. Yeah. >> Uh the last resort is a third one and the fourth one is the food cart. >> So you taking and we're having a new brochure and new envelopes and some other minor collateral stuff is is just about ready to go to the printer. So we're we're getting there. What's nice to see is that started with the food table. Now the friends have picked it up as a program. Now we're picking up donations for it. So again, that's the momentum that this board is creating. So congratulations on >> to that. >> And if you'll notice when you leave today, I loaded the food carts this morning. Loaded them. And somebody had brought a a very kind generous donation of food. I incorporated that. And if you take a look at them now, it's almost all gone. >> The need is there. >> And people were asking yesterday morning uh at 8:30, people were already at the front desk asking where the food carts were cuz Denise and I had taken them down uh for the maintenance and everything. We didn't want them to be in the way. And we re we put them back in yesterday morning at 9:30. But at 8:30, people were already asking. They probably thought that they got removed and weren't coming back or that they were >> Yeah, they were asking if it was coming back. >> Y >> good. >> So, good work. >> Okay. Anything else? >> Uh Eric, sustainability, >> there's a meeting tomorrow, >> 5:15 at the food hall. >> Okay, good. That >> was great information that that Zach had. >> Yeah. employment. John, Dave, Dave, you want to take this then? >> Go ahead. >> You want That's fine. You do it. >> Okay. Um, we talked a little bit already about the job fair. Um, what we're trying to do, so so let me be clear, right? The job fair is being ran by workforce. The seniors, we're providing the space, but they're providing really all the other coordination. Correct. Exactly. Yeah. Okay. >> Yeah. So, I want to be clear on that. Um I've had some communication with workforce uh Dave as well. Um there we're a little premature like ideally what I want is a I want to know who the who they're inviting, who's accepted. If there's a gap in that, then Dave and I are like maybe we reach out to that organization directly to try to coax them into coming. Right. So, and Lily doesn't seem to have a problem with that, but she hasn't provided the list of who's been invited yet. So, we should get that pretty soon hopefully. Um, the second thing I want to comment and and so in this document here, there were a couple questions that I asked Lily. I posted her response. Um, and there's there's there's more responses that that we need to get from Willie, but but the other one I think is really interesting is um, so let's say you go to the job fair and you're interested in a particular employer and and you want to reach out to them. So, as some of us know, right? Um, if you put a call into HR, they're probably not, you know, hey, I'm looking for a job. That that's not going to get answered, right? So some of the employers, we learned this from the last job fair, they have a number or an email address of a particular person at the company that you can reach out to, but um others don't. Right? So Lily has implied that for for for those employers the inquiries would come directly into workforce. So workforce which which would basically um act as the the the help desk or the front line for those seeking employment and then workforce what she basically said is if we can get those people to come into workforce then what we can do is kind of run them through our process which is what kind of employment you're looking for because probably but if you just look for one job with one employer the probability you're going to get hired is extremely small but if you go to work force to say, "I'm interested in a job. This is what I'm qualified to do." Or maybe they can identify gaps in your skill set that workforce can help fill. Right? And then they can potentially say, you know, we we know a dozen employers potentially that might be looking for somebody with these skills, right? So, those are the kind of conversations we still need to have with Lily to kind of figure that one out so that we can better inform our seniors as to what they can do if they're interested in employment, if they go to the job fair, and they're interested in taking the next step. Does that make sense? >> Okay. Um John Higgins. So there's a whole categor there's a there's an employer there was a job there's a skill set within workforce a job category I guess. And what do they call them? They call them like resource coordinators similar to our resource specialist. I had it written down here somewhere. Um Dave and I want to set up a meeting with Lily and basically ultimately with one of these coordinators to understand what they do. But right now she keeps throwing out the term and those are the people that they'll contact but we don't know what they do right so we want to understand better what they do and of course I was just thinking looking at you I'm going and I don't know what bilingual skills they have. We know we know workforce has bilingual skills, right? That was actually brought up when Lily was here last time. Remember you brought that up. >> Let's see. >> Touch on the chamber events. >> Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Towards the bottom here. So um there are a variety of chamber events. Um actually I found out about this through friends. >> Um because friends is kind of taking a lead on that. Uh we attended a chamber event um breakfast chamber event with Sam's Club a few weeks ago. Um I thought it was was interesting. Well attended, extremely well attended. Um Dave John Johnny was there. Um, we did a uh I think we did a good job of trying to inform those folks both at the chamber level and at Sam's level who we are, what we do, how seniors, you know, trying to get, you know, hey, think of seniors. Um, there are a few others that are coming up. One that I'm going to attend is Costco. They're a big employer in Longmont, right? So, there could be an opportunity for seniors at Costco. >> And when's that? the Costco one um 911 September 11 >> that was a warning event that as well um if you want the complete list I don't have it handy but I do have a scanned copy of it you guys have electronic list >> I have I have it electronic copy of it >> I'll send it to everybody what's interesting you we're just talking to various people trying to pinpoint the ones that look like seniors talked to four people who are seniors, didn't know about the senior center. So, it's a good opportunity. I invited them here. We give them a tour, whatever. Gives a good opportunity just to meet people look like seniors and talk about what we're going here because they all represent employers or they are employers so they have some group of people. We'd like to make our services at least available or at least indicate to them. Took one person through here from the Lmont Men's Choir Corp., forget the name of the group he represented. >> Oh yeah. Yeah. He was recruiting. >> He was. >> Can you sing? >> Yeah. If you go there, expect to be promoted about what they do. So, but it's fun. But as well attended as John said, and the breakfast was nice and good to go to. >> Yeah. >> Wear your name tag. >> Yeah. >> That's all. >> Next breakfast, make sure you tell them. >> What's that? >> Make sure what? with makes breakfast. Make sure you tell us >> or bring breakfast back. >> Okay. Uh Dave, board advocacy. >> No report. >> Nope. >> Okay. And food table. Eric, >> uh last month was very successful. We had about 78 people and over 205 families, people represented. >> Uh it starts again this Saturday. So volunteers I'm >> I'm leading a trip to the peach festival that day. >> Yeah, that's what's happening that day. >> Yes, >> it's going to affect it. >> So, what do we do with those people? They were the nues. >> You got to eat peaches. >> All right. Thank you. >> That's that's a real shift. The number of people coming is staying pretty consistent, but the number of people being fed has started to go up. So, >> thank you all for participating. >> Well, when did the latest around the snap >> reductions happen just >> so a good chance we're going to see a bump >> more people >> September? And that goes keep in mind I mean they're they're 55 plus but like there there are a lot of them like there's one lady that seems to come all the time and she's taking care of her grandkids. >> Yeah. >> Right. So she's getting >> we get a lot of those. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Open discussions. One thing I want to see would who are there people that you all like to see come present over the next few months? Someone from the chamber? Any groups? Let let let us know so we can get speakers that you're interested in hearing. I thought Zach's presentation was great today. >> Herald coming. >> Yeah. >> Um we'll see. >> He doesn't need to come before budget though. >> June. >> Hey Jonath when did the Longmont Housing Authority last present? Remember that was two years ago. We can get Quincy and uh and uh I'll pick her name, but yeah, we can get them in here. >> Yeah, >> peer support just went out to to Quincy and we're on schedule the peer support group to be able to speak to them over the next three months. So, love to have them come back. It's a great idea. One of the uh former city council members is now in a position at Longmont Housing. Do you know who I'm speaking >> Chakita is in that position at Longmont Housing? So, if we could get Chakita and Quincy Williams in. >> Okay, I'll check. >> Be good for that. >> Any any other groups you'd like to hear from? >> You know, Elme, I don't know if they've ever come. Longmont multicultural action committee which is part of the city all of the organizations in Longmont so they can there what they do what their purpose is and who's all involved with them as well at St. brain community council you know they have you know all organization profit and nonprofit that they need at the best return church same brain community >> do you have any contact >> do you have any contact people we can >> can you let me know yeah I'll give you the number okay he's the one that you know present the program where I said we should present Okay. Anything else? >> We had a question. Uh, under open discussion, that's where we are. >> Yes. >> Okay. Um, going over the new go. Beautiful. Looks great. I didn't notice anything about the advisory board. Did I just miss it? >> It's It's there. >> I don't have it in front of me. Um, what what do you mean about the advisory? >> Um, just general information like there was in the last one. >> I don't think we took that out. >> It's it's it's there between >> and I I I probably missed it, but >> yeah, we definitely did not remove those are always like longstanding pieces in the so >> Okay. We have the announcement for the anniversary that's going to happen here. >> Yesterday >> I think there was something maybe on the first page or something. >> Okay. Take a look. >> Outreach. >> Page 10. Page 10. >> Page 10. Uh, city council appointed board members the first Wednesday of every month 10 a.m. noon. We need that. Well, possibly might cover. >> Look at you're all named David Brena. Maria Gualupe Garcia, Lonni Goulie, John Higgins, John Pilman, Martha Moreno. So you are you're famous >> famous. Please contact us again. to award you to John. >> Thank you so much. >> All right. >> Lonnie, >> um yeah, I actually I'm just going to run through this real quick. Um we did a present, John did a presentation at Village on Main. It was very wellreceived and uh it was very informative about what people were asking about. So, we're going to continue to kind of pay attention to what people have questions about and be ready to answer that and be ready to address those. Um, the next one's going to be at Aspen Meadows and I'm booked for September, I think it's 11th. Um, one was very excited to have us come in and talk. Um, so what I could use, Ronnie, at one point you mentioned having quarter page flyers made up with the barcode. Mhm. >> on it. So, if there's any way I can get that for the Aspen Meadows meeting, >> that would be helpful. That we won't have to bring go books. >> Perfect. Um I have one that we already created. Uh do we know where that is? Um I can send that over. >> Excellent. >> All right. >> Where's Aspen? Is that >> Aspen M Meadows is off of Maine East onto 21st Street. So if you go up to Maine and 21st and you go east, it's about two blocks in. There's Aspen Meadows Senior Community and Aspen Meadows Apartments. So apartments are for multi- you know families and all that and Aspen Meadows Senior is it. I spoke to Quincy Williams who is the regional director of LHA and I asked him what he thought of us presenting at all of the different properties and he didn't think it was necessary for the ones that are mixed um residents. He thought that really only the ones for the seniors would have a want to have the information give it to them and stuff. However, that we could provide and I think we already do provide the go books to all of the senior to all of the residences so that the ones that have families and stuff like that, the managers will know to give those uh go books out to the people that are seniors. He just didn't feel that there would be enough participation. However, should he find out and should I find out from talking to these individual managers that it would be a good idea from us to come and do it, we'd be happy to do that. So, that cuts out about four of the properties, the eight properties. >> So, um we're going to continue doing this. One thing I want to stress because we all know this, um Zach brought it up real well when he said everything's a juggling act. You know, we don't want to go out there and get a lot of responses from people and have them come and find out that the weight lists are really long. I don't want to overpromise and unders and underprovide. So, this is going to be a slow process. This is going to be one we expect to do for a while, you know, a long time ongoing actually. And uh anywhere we can do it outside of just seniors is also going to be beneficial. Like we're going to go I'm setting up an appointment with the Twin Peaks Rotary. It's not just going to be properties that I'm doing. I'm going to be doing um community groups because they're great fundraisers. They're great funds givers. You know, I want to stress to them that yes, if you want to make a D, you know, how do you want to I want to stress to them there are opportunities to support the senior center. Whether you know of someone who could use the information, whether you personally could use the information, whether you as a group would like to take a make a monetary donation to the group, which we can do through the friends of the Longmont Senior Center. Um that whole sort of thing. I also want to stress to them if you need a meeting space and you want to rent a room right downtown, they're available, you know, per the per the uh scheduling and everything else, but it's also an option to maybe, you know, make some money for the senior center. So, these are all going to be >> invite them to come because we cannot have more than what we have already. >> Wait, say it again. telling them the information that they can donate. That's what we do, but we can't set for them to come because we do not have a space for them. So, they want to come join, they can't because we don't have the space. >> We do in the evening. We have rooms available. >> Right. >> We have rooms. That's not That's not a problem yet. Yeah. Um, so and again stressing all this stuff, you know, not getting a lot of people, not putting out so much information that we get a big return. >> Um, because we just we can't manage it yet. So, it'll be a slower process. Um, how does everybody feel that outreach is doing so far? What does everybody think of it? But oops, >> what >> it seems like your outreach, if you do enough outreach to maybe get the donors to them so the money comes back. >> At the same time you're doing that, you're doing outreach to let them know what you're offering. So I'm saying there's kind of a catch there that you can't really regulate too much, >> right? Yeah. >> Right. And I would love to go full tilt out there and let everybody know what what's going on in the senior center and stuff like that. I just don't want to I don't want the outreach committee to be overpromising and underdelivering. So, it's like we've said from the beginning that's that's a juggling act that we're going to be going through the whole time. >> I appreciate that. >> I would think it's it's really hard to tell at this point. You know, you're just getting started. But I guess I I would ask Ronnie, have you had any consequence that you can see from the outreach efforts? >> Um, not at this time. I think again if we're being mindful and and careful in how we are what outreach is and what it looks like and um this presentation is a good example of of that surface level information with the right pieces of data to support. Um, I think that's the information our community. >> Yeah, I think it's a building process like you said. >> Exactly. And I think what could happen too is the more people in the community who know about the senior center, whether it's anything they're personally, you know, interested in pursuing or they just like knowing what goes on in Longmont. Um, could help us budgetwise. You know, if you have a lot of people saying, "Hey, senior center needs more help." you know, the more you can get the word out to everybody, you never know where that support is coming from and where it could help us. So, I think in that regard, you know, I just want to make sure everybody's feeling like things are being done, >> but I don't want to go real quickly. >> I think I think you've got a good pace going, which is and and you're looking to build the momentum, right? >> Because you got to start somewhere. And I think the the seeds are being distributed. >> Well, I did ask Ronnie about unity in the community, so that was answered. Um, and I talking to Germo. He said the September NGLA meeting is a fair. It's groups from all over the city who come to represent themselves and people walk around and see what's going on. I would very much like to be a part of that. I've been calling in for two weeks and I haven't gotten any answer yet. >> So, I would like everybody to plan on that. I believe it is the September meeting is Thursday, September 17th, 6:30 to 7:30. Where is their new location? Does anybody know >> the civic center? >> Yeah, civic center meeting. >> So, if everybody could put that, you know, save the date for that one. Um, again, 17, September 17th, 6:30, 7:30. I think that'll be a good way to get out there. Also, we're speaking at the October NGLA meeting, just us. Um, it's not going to be a fair. It's going to be a regular meeting format and we're speaking at that. >> What What date and time is that, Lonnie? >> October would be the third t Thursday of the month. So I don't know which that will be but the NGLA meetings are always said third Thursday of the month at 6:30 7:30. >> So 15 >> 15 >> 15 Okay. October 15th. Good. Um okay. So considering everything we've talked about, I'm wondering if it's necessary to have the extra time in the meeting for outreach. Originally, we did it because we couldn't get together and and meet the committee to meet um because of the the open meeting laws. So, we my idea is and I'd like to get everybody's idea on this is that we don't Well, look at it's 51 12. >> Yeah. Right. >> Yeah. All right. So, I guess we could continue to do this and then if it just means the meeting ends early, the meeting ends early. And then if down the road we find out that there's been a big change and then the an adjustment needs to be made that we can do. >> I think as you get more momentum, it might be time well spent. So and Zach's spoke for a long time which is great. So >> So it was nice having the extra time in the meeting. I guess >> I think so too for now. >> And yeah, >> I do agree. I think at some point we need to get back to historically the time that we had allocated for years, right, which is two hours. we need to work towards doing tomorrow. Maybe not today, you know, not now, maybe not for the next couple of months, maybe not for the rest of the year, but I just feel strongly and I think it's it and as far as people speaking, including myself, because I can be long-winded. Um, you know, we just get people to more focus. >> Straighten it up. You don't want that. >> Eric wants to go back to 9:30 to 11:30. You already told me that. >> Well, we used to do um we used to put time limits on each one of these agenda items, >> right? >> Uh 5 minutes, 10 minutes. So that way we know kind of what we're working towards to stay on track. So if we need to go back to that, let me know. When we're agenda planning, >> yeah, we we we use the time we have. So we have was it 10 to 12? There used to be. >> Well, let's keep going for another meeting or two and see how it go and decide it later on. >> Okay. >> But if we do keep it shorter and outreach doesn't need to meet committee meeting in the middle of the meeting, then we might be able to bring it back down to two hours. >> All right. >> Hey, does anybody have any questions about outreach or anything else? Marta, I love what you're doing with reaching out in the Spanish speaking community. I think that's also very important. >> Your personal life Yeah, >> it's what you live for. >> Anything else? >> If you need anything, let me know. >> I'd like a motion to objourn if that's appropriate. Oh, that was quick. Yes. >> Motion to approve. Eric, >> Eric, you made your point. All right, >> we do our two minutes to spare.