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The September 2026 meeting of the Senior Citizen Advisory Board focused on recruitment, resource accessibility, and strategic planning for upcoming fiscal and community initiatives. With applications open for new members until October 23, the board addressed concerns regarding low corporate interest in their job fair by urging targeted outreach to local businesses and financial institutions like Beimo Bank. Significant progress was made in expanding food security efforts, including the addition of a third food cart that increased daily distribution capacity and partnerships with Walmart Food Rescue and King Soopers for donation drives. The board also reviewed new materials, such as an updated brochure featuring QR codes for donations and plans for a "Legacy" booklet, while coordinating volunteer efforts to address transportation barriers by identifying specific senior housing areas lacking access to current shuttle services. A major portion of the discussion centered on the city's budget process and transportation improvements, highlighting a tentative FY27 budget of $548 million that maintains staff levels despite fiscal challenges. The board agreed to initiate discussions on budget priorities in January rather than later in the year, allowing time for staff analysis before final adjustments are made based on fiscal realities and election outcomes. In terms of mobility, the group celebrated the official approval and funding of the Airport to Longmont (AL) bus service, which offers affordable rates for seniors and eliminates parking fees, alongside updates on expanding Ride Long services with new vehicles and weekend hours. However, challenges remain regarding the Access-a-Ride registration process in Denver, prompting the board to explore virtual meeting options as a potential accommodation before adjourning. Beyond logistics, the board tackled critical issues of demographics, ageism, and code amendments to better serve an aging population that is rapidly growing to nearly 31% of the city's residents. Staff clarified that while the advisory board reviews budgets, it does not participate in internal line-item discussions, a distinction important for future engagement on projects like homelessness response and strategic expansion. The group also reviewed proposals to amend city code, suggesting changes such as shifting the annual meeting from February to January and removing redundant clauses about open meeting laws. Furthermore, an area agency report emphasized the social isolation faced by early seniors aged 50-59 due to housing affordability and employment discrimination, reinforcing the board's commitment to maintaining visibility at community events and fostering social connection at senior centers. The meeting concluded with a robust agenda for future advocacy and community engagement, including presentations from volunteer groups on mental health and travel opportunities starting in November. The board plans to host various organizations throughout the year to highlight their services, ensuring that seniors remain connected to resources ranging from legal rights forums presented by local immigration lawyers to voter registration drives. With four vans available for transport and a coordinated list of senior housing facilities identified, the board is well-positioned to address specific delivery needs and shuttle requests. As they move forward, the advisory board aims to balance immediate operational needs with long-term strategic goals, ensuring that their efforts in food distribution, employment support, and transportation advocacy continue to evolve alongside the changing demographics and fiscal landscape of Longmont.
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one who is making the decisions. >> Good morning everyone. >> Good morning. We'll start the meeting. Eric is now >> mechanically on top of things. >> Let's see. Roll call. Anyone's here but Lonnie. >> How's it going? >> And Christina says she's coming later. >> All right. So, we bring in a call for a motion to approve the agenda. So move. >> Dave is moved. Second. John Pilman is seconded. It is approved. Public invited to be heard. Public, do you want to be heard? >> At some point you will. I'm sure. >> We'll come back to that one. Okay. New business updates. Bylaw review. >> Approval of the agenda for last meeting. >> We did, didn't we? >> No, that was >> Oh, the agenda. I've been I I sit corrected. Approval of um previous month's minutes. I need a uh >> a motion to approve. Don't everybody do it once? >> Dave. >> Dave second. Somebody's first. >> John Pilman said first. >> I said first. >> Oh, okay. >> Yes. >> If you say so. >> Okay. >> Uh let's see. the bylaw review. Christina said that >> she's at a budget meeting. She'll try and be here to go through that with us. >> Term for reappoints that go. We have two vacant seats on our board and we have currently three members whose terms are up. Um waiting to be overwhelmed by they're saying yes. No pressure. No pressure. I'm ready to reapply. >> Oh, thank you, Eric. Martha's I mean, Lupe is holding out. That's okay. I'm I'm gonna sit for a second term also. So, and then we have appointments. Applications are open on September 14th through the 23rd of October. Does Ronnie get is there an application they fill up? >> Uh online. >> Online. >> Online. He should >> just go to >> through the portal. >> City of Longmont. >> Yes. just go to the city law. Well, there'll be a posting here in what's happening and also in the uh in the lobby about this board members who terms are up but want to continue serving just need to submit a new application but there's no interview. We will be interviewing um potential candidates, John and myself. We need one more volunteer to be part of the interviewing process. Eric, the next three of us. >> Okay. interviewing for when I do >> for the new members for >> when do the interviews happen >> on the I think in late October early November we don't know that yet but the >> the applications are going to be available right >> they're now just go online the city portal and look for the >> right >> you can submit them as of the 14th of September >> beginning then until October 23rd and then interviews happen after that. Okay. Uh Q&A with the city council. Can we bring that up? >> Yes. >> And and those ones that are now and they want to continue um they can fill an application and they don't have to do the interview. >> Correct. Just go online, submit the application. his name. >> Who are the two? >> Do we have the link? >> No, just come in. >> Eric's one. >> Yes. >> Eric, >> can you still be send the link or >> uh Sure. >> Or are we able to just bring it up up here? >> Sure. >> Well, how do I send it to you? >> Trying to get the >> It's on your phone. Should be We're trying to look at the um the August 11th meeting that where we presented the board's activities for the year. I wanted to show you just a reminder and get it on on tape actually the Q&A we have with the city council. I mean most of you many of you were there. Um, but I thought it was interesting the questions they had and the observations they had of the board and of what the board is doing, especially around food tables, employment, and outreach. Each of the city council members has something pretty interesting to say. I don't have it with me, Eric. Don't have it. So, while I bring that up, the unity community, all board members who were in town were there. Thank you so much. all wearing the ask me pin that uh nobody asked me about the pin when we were in the booth but my wife and I walked around and number of people stopped says ask you about what so it's about just ask me about the senior center and during the during the community um the mayor came by pro 10 came by members of the council came by and congratulated the group on their efforts and about being there of having a presence at a community event >> feeling saying they represent seniors and they're happy to see us all there. So that presence I think is important for us to keep in front of people. >> So it's just council >> technical support >> technical support. >> Are we rolling >> accept >> um >> perfect >> chamber of commerce opportunities. I'm going to pass this around. This is a sheet the friends put out for um chamber events that are coming up. On this side are morning events. This side are evening. Just want to take a look and see if anybody'd like to attend. Um there's a there's one actually here in October for Meals on Wheels. And it's something that if you want to attend, wear the ask me pin and just people if people ask just tell them where you're from, what you're doing, what you represent. Marta, is it something that the Latino Chamber of Commerce >> if you sit on the toilet bear down and barely anything? [laughter] >> I'm not going to sit until I >> best meeting ever. [laughter] [laughter] >> That's not part of my job. >> [laughter] >> Yeah. And on that note, [laughter] >> something about the Latino. >> Is it something we might attend? I don't know. >> No. Well, I was part I was one that initially started, right? Then then I left. I was like this. I don't like yog. But I haven't attended. I know. do one and I guess we could do a presentation with >> part of the Latino community. >> Okay. >> That was a good one. >> I'm glad I'm really glad we have that on tape. I think [laughter] this >> I mean that [laughter] >> don't let it be said we don't we lack a sense of humor. [laughter] if you get up frequently. >> Well, all right. Well, we're talking about things that are humorous. >> Pass just pass this around if you would, please. [laughter] >> Oh, see, it's all being recorded. >> Huh? We know that that's what I was just >> That's you. [laughter] >> That's definitely him. So, I just want to show you that's that's our council leazison's commitment >> to being a presence in the community. >> No, you didn't do that this year. >> I did. >> Did you see this? >> Did you? >> Oh, I've got to see that. [clears throat] >> Is that loud enough? >> Yeah. >> There's actually an updated picture from this year. I missed it this year. >> I looked I saw you, but I didn't see you. Damp. >> Did you take the jacket off? >> Oh my god. >> So, you had the jacket on when you first got dunk? >> Yeah, you can pass that around, too. >> Okay. >> That was this year. >> So, he's not just a one-time guy. He's committed to being dunked. [laughter] >> City council at work. Yes. Perfect. That's great. >> Full regalia. >> Did you like the >> Oh, yeah. >> But here he did it again. That's this year. That's last year. >> I hope they post that that picture. Your picture this year. >> I'm sure they got better ones. >> I'm sure. [laughter] >> You were wearing a suit. You have this one. >> Yeah, that's this year. >> Yeah. Michael, now you're my friend. The wet pack. Yeah. [laughter] >> Okay. I'm going turn I'm going to turn the recording off for just a minute. [laughter] That's just just what we need. Nice. [laughter] Oh my gosh. [laughter] >> Plus, you're reading all your emails, so that's okay. [laughter] All right. All right. >> You remember [snorts] me for that? >> You guys ready? >> Yep. >> Oh, this is the entire presentation. Do you want >> No, just just want the Q&A. Okay, that's we're gonna have to go. >> That That's what that says, right? >> Hopefully we don't get any more commercials. [laughter] >> Okay, what time is that up? >> Uh, that's a good question. >> Skip that. >> I go a little further in. >> Yeah, keep it when his time is up and then questions >> around 10 minutes. when I think >> I'm looking at the timer that's why >> still >> keep going. There we go. Try that. >> Yep, that's good. I think it's greatation segment. Um, and your board is committed to serving the needs of Long Island and serving the needs of our community. Can you just raise your hand if you're part of either the friends or >> There you are. There you are. I think most of our folks are >> remember Okay. Anyway, do you have any questions or do you feel like we're is there something we're missing? You feel like we could something we could do better? [clears throat] >> Well, thank you for the presentation. I think this was great and thank you um friends of the and the senior center and senior center advisory board folks for all your work and commitment. you know, I've occasionally come in and help with the food distribution and just all the hands on deck and it's it's amazing. It It's what makes Long Hungry. I love it. Um, Council Member Chris, >> thank you, Mayor, and thank you, John and John and Mr. May. Um, I do have a couple questions. Well, first, a couple of comments. First, I was happy to see that you u get food from the growing gardens because we were very much invested in continuing that project there by the I just want to point out to the my fellow counselors how important that is not just to the senior center but to other communities as well in in law. We just want your input. Um, in in my word, I have about uh five different senior housing facilities, and I'm wondering about transportation because none of the buses go by any of those buildings. And how do they get down to the senior center or are you considering maybe having an extension or satellite up near some of those facilities? Some of them are housing authority properties. When we first looked at doing this in 2025, transportation was an issue to get out to solve that problem. And we're we want to look at the patterns of people coming before we got out to find transportation. Now we have some numbers we can come forward and try to do that with the city with the senior center. So it's in process at this point. >> Okay. So you want to attack that. Um, also I think senior citizens are the best to hire for one part of the generation that can actually talk on the phone. >> This is serious. But when I come in, senior center tend to come up with flyer and >> the problem is that people need help to prepare a flyer. You know what I mean? Because we're looking for administrative help usually with clients that I work with. So, I'm just wondering if there's an easier way, if there's a way we can have a billboard or some place to a website to post on quickly. You know, this is what we're looking for administrative system to do this for part time. Call this number. >> Whenever [music] a patient comes in to [laughter] my chair, I like to assure them that [music] help with certain situations. >> You guys get it, too. >> Jeez, I thought I was the only one. There's a couple different ways. There's a what's happening that goes out every two weeks on the senior center. >> We also have a blue work where you can post flyers of any sort make made available to people that come to us right from the door to the senior center. >> Dan, I also wanted to do a shout out real quick to Walmart rescue, >> right? Because they're a huge partner with us and have been really committed to our success. If they're the ones that provide food, they should probably >> Yeah. Yeah. >> that 16,000 pounds comes delivered by them to us. >> Nice. >> Is that is that convenient for seniors to get down to the senior center to do that? I know it's packed every every time every month that it comes around, right? But um I'm just wondering, we have this problem in all sectors that our our town has grown wide and tall. So, how do we get to all the, you know, outside areas of town? And most of our facilities are central. So, I'm just wondering, are you getting people coming in from from those four corners of the town or >> and most of the people come are within a certain radius of of the senior center just because of transjection whatever, >> right? >> But we open at 10 for delivery and they're people arriving at 8 >> to be ready for that. I think is part of the issue with getting transportation is can we get enough food in there to support that. So it's a balancing act at all time I suppose. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Yeah. Thank you for your presentation and for your input. point that I'd like to also add the work that the advisory board doing to take a look at what uh opportunities currently existed at that time uh before making the recommendation to have this service provided out of the senior center. meaning meeting meaning uh when when we're looking at those resources available, we were in a position where you know where seniors did not have access to uh to those opportunities. So the recommendation for the advisory board was to we should do this out of the senior center and make it more accessible uh within the community. >> So it's a beginning and then it could grow from there. >> Absolutely. That's our hope. >> Okay, great. Thank you for all your hard work. >> Thank you. I do want to point out um uh Council Member Buckin gets to see everything firsthand, the hard work, time, energy this advisory board puts into um just everything they do. You know, we you had an opportunity to learn about the the groundwork they do in our community, uh the conversations they have at the advisory board meetings and the work they do outside of that. um the the research that John has done on employment uh the research John Henkins has done for food security and everything in between the budget board as a whole. This group is very dedicated to providing support for seniors in our community and making sure that they're moving forward recommendations that can that can help make life better for seniors when when everything's so tough right now. So for that I just want to say thank uh thank you to to the advisory board and what they do with our friends at Long Senior Center just to make a difference for seniors and >> thank you >> council member Marcy >> we got more for you [laughter] >> trying to sneak off stage >> first of all thank you both so much and thanks to all I am a nerd who when I'm driving around listen to our advisory boards and watches at least some of most of the meetings. You're the work you all are doing is exceptional and the organization um that you have for your advisory board and that the time that is very edited that you put in is exceptional. So, thank you for the work that I know that you're doing because it it the the discussions are always interesting. I learn something every time I engage with with them and and thank you for that work. Um, I did have a question that was actually raised kind of on the transportation point and it's I understand that you're not it's not a data point necessarily. It's more anecdotal information about senior access for specifically for our microtransit service. I'm curious generally have has how accessible do you view that that service is for the seniors that the senior center is serving and this may be a staff question as well um because I you know we talk about barriers to access and ways to make sure that we're expanding and we're looking at expanding etc et specifically how much is it used would you say um has it been a conversation the advisory board to kind of make those connections >> I I can probably speak to it from another volunteer opportunity I do. So I I work with the with the SCTC, the tech lab folks. So we have people that come in, right, that have computer issues and and I would say that there's a a I don't have the numbers, but I would say that out of the hundreds of people I've helped, there's been a significant number of those that used ride lawmark to get in there um to meet with the SCC lab folks. So if that's you know for what that's worth um they're using it to come into the senior center for that activity at least. >> Yeah that's helpful. >> Yeah. Further on that again when we started doing this we had no idea about what participation would be like. Now we have a year 160 almost 60 months of data. Uh the city said to us said to us others said to us give us the numbers and we'll we'll help in any way we can. So they transformation out. They'll say what we need and what we need to order. Appreciate that. Thank you so much. >> Most side sleepers think they're fine after. >> What I've discovered could save you from a massive mistake is crushing your body while you sleep. If you're sleeping in a position like this, >> you got to know. >> Feels better than toilets. >> Thank you guys so much for all the work that you do. um in a lot of the spaces that I attend and when we're having conversations around as seniors and um one thing that I hear just commonly from people outside of mama is you guys have the best senior center ever. So kudos to you guys. Not only do the residents here understand and see the hard work that's going in and the services that's being provided to them, but people outside of Long are seeing like looking at you guys is kind of like how do we become more of like Long Senior Center. So another way that Long's leading is it senior centers. So big congratulations to you guys. Um I'm also happy to see that one of the focus areas is uh helping to connect [snorts] seniors to employment. Um, that's huge and it's such a gap in our community and you know I'm I was trying to say the word in my head but the state demographer what is it? Did I say that right? >> You know they were talking about when I went to that event um how we had the aging population and our workforce was essentially going to go away but hey our seniors can work too and and they're some of the hardest workers. My mom's 62 and she runs circles around me and you know she's one of the hardest working people that I know and so definitely a need there and especially just to kind of additionally these days the extra grocery costs or unexpected um you know emergencies that [clears throat] might arise. So, that's really exciting. And I can say that I saw that event that the senior center is going to be hosting for um the job fair and I sent her an invite. So, I'll see you guys there because I'm going to go with her. So, I'm excited to see how that goes and and further get the word out in some of the community spaces that I'm already a part of to see how can we strengthen this moving forward and how can council support you guys in that. So, that's huge. Um, also just looking at some of the um, you know, going back to helping seniors be competitive and marketable in in these spaces, you know, in this in a world of AI and where people, you know, employers use algorithms u on resumes and things like that. You know, seniors sometimes don't have that knowledge and so it's going to be really important that we're, you know, getting ahead of the game and really helping them in that area. Um, and yeah, so that's just that's pretty much it. I just wanted to thank you for all your hard work. I'm excited to support you in any way that I can get the word out and then I'll see you at the event. >> Great. Thank you. Thank you. >> Thank you, Council Member Coler. >> Thank you, Mayor. Thank you both for the presentation and thank you to the advisory board. Thank you for um also the Longmont Food Rescue for the great work and all the volunteers that go to that. Um I've had the pleasure of going with my family to that event and that's very hard for me. Um, something that's concerning is, you know, saying that the food cart that's there every day is filled by 9:00 and gone by noon and also that that food distribution is only once a month. Are we are we not providing enough opportunities for food distribution? Is once enough once a month enough for [cough] it's it's probably I mean it's never enough, right? But um I think we need to keep in mind that that partner with long food rescue I mean the number of locations that they do food drives right we're we're one of many right and we're we're senior focused as John said but um they do an incredible number of food drives in fact I'm going to be distributing for them next week to various locations where they're going to be doing food drives so there um [snorts] there are plenty of never enough right but there are other opportunities for seniors to have access to food throughout the week and throughout the month than just the senior center. Now, that being said, I mean, if in a perfect world, it' be great if we could do it every weekend, but I think realistically, um, we make a difference and I think there are other opportunities throughout the long run as well. >> And I know that meals on wheels is also in the the senior center and I have doing a ride along uh once before. Do we know how many of um the participants that come to the senior center also go to meals on wheels? Do we >> interestingly enough where we put the food carts is right outside the cafe where they do serve the food. So I'm guessing a lot of those people pick up a snack and pick up shelf stable item when we come out. So I think there's a good collaboration that way and they've been very supportive of the food table as far as storing food. But answer your question, the easy answer is John said that we can always use more, but then we have issues with transportation, whatever. But I think we'd like to come back to council at some point with a plan on how to reach out and be a little more effective. There are other city facilities where we might be able to set this up, but it's a lot more planning and now we have the data to show what's happening, especially with the growth in population. The need the need is only grow. >> Thank you all. Really appreciate your time. Uh- w with the uh Meals and Wheels annual numbers increase every year. Uh whether it be on-site services or uh delivery, they see the same huge increases every single year. Um our driver count. Last year we had 11,000 more visits. Um they're seeing those huge numbers as well. So, we're both kind of trying to figure out what we could do to um to to again meet beat meet the various needs of our seniors in our community and um you know, we're really out growing our our our cafeteria space right now with that. So, you know, the question they're bringing right now, do they need to just move to delivery, right? And uh to to meet the needs of more seniors who can't not only come into this senior center, but even if they are there, there's not a place to sit. There's sometimes where we have to open up our classrooms. If there's a classroom available at that time, we'll put some tables in those classrooms as an overflow location for our student participants to eat. >> Thank you, Council Member Popkin. >> Thank you, Mayor. Um [clears throat] John, um I appreciate that you guys brought the survey results. I think we're really eager to see the the community survey feedback as well. And I'll just let council members know that this group is very eager to dig into that data, too. So, Um we're very much looking forward to that. The focus on the senior citizen advisory board do so much. The monthly meetings are merely a snapshot um of kind of what not not their responsibilities but what they actually do in the role and and it's it's so greatly appreciated from attending regional meetings on different topics outreach that you spoke to John um the thoughtful meeting structure. You run well well-run meetings. It's a pleasure to be part of those um and so much more. So, thank you for your thoughtfulness, your inqu in inquisitiveness, your curiosity, um, and and your time. Um, and thanks for coming tonight. Um, just as a PSA for everyone here, and as a reminder, you don't have to be named John to serve on the senior system. >> I do have a question. [laughter] If people walked away learning what you think from tonight or about the senior center and the senior citizen competition, what do you want them to do? that long one cares. >> That's what I want people to know. I don't know where that word went too far to see it, but the long one does care. Council members show up photography board members, people in the community long rescue. It's a it's a group effort. Doesn't happen in a vacuum. So yeah, >> Walmart add to it was a comment made earlier about I think it was you council member that uh other communities look to the one senior center. Um we're we're appreciated. I mean people know what a value senior center is and they appreciate it and it makes us makes it makes our job easy because we know we we we know that they love what we do. Okay, thanks very much and council uh Mayor Pro. >> Thank you, Mayor Ronnie, John, John, and the whole senior citizen advisory board. And I want to thank you all for coming down here and and and really talking about the need of the community. It's it's despicable that we live in a country that that uh uh we have such great need. uh and uh that I want to just thank you all for all the work you do and and the uh community share uh group does as well because it's just uh it's such a needed experience to to be there and help people uh who you know really are appreciative and uh so thank you all for everything you do. >> Thank you. Um, yeah, thank you so much for for all you do [snorts] coming out and I really I loved I think it was John who you had said it that you know the law cares which John Yeah. John um John on the right. Um yeah that you know when I think about what makes a city a community it's people and how the people engage with each other and support each other and you thank you so much and like I said before whenever I can be there I am there to bag up that food I've become quite efficient >> yeah that's okay I'm okay usually my picture and I are all like I'm looking off in some weird direction so it is all okay so thank you very much >> okay so we are now on public invited to be heard. >> That's it. >> And there are some names on here that I see that are connected to >> a um uh the Juniper Street and we you will have an opportunity to speak during that hearing and in order to keep with >> I just want you all to I know most of you were there but I wanted you to hear what the city remind you what the city council thinks and feels about this group. They do see what we do. They do appreciate it. I think this that we moved into doing the food table and now we're talking about transportation needs, employment. We can capitalize on that momentum by going to a couple more the city council meetings and talking about things moving forward for seniors. That's the bottom line for the ask me button. We want people to talk about senior center where 30% of the population is 55 and above. We need to start talking about ourselves so other people will council notices. So, let's capitalize on that and thank you all for being there that night. >> John, do you have anything to add? >> John, >> just said when um one one correction um we stated during the presentation that the largest population segment population group in Longer seniors over 60 I believe it was. Um and Shaquille pointed out to me that that was incorrect. He based on the data that he pulled off was actually during he's on there when I was going all the time. He uh went to the census website or whatever. He pulled off a census stat that showed that we're actually not currently the largest population segment. We may be the fastest growing but if you took whatever eight I don't know 25 to 45 or something anyway that population segment is actually larger than the so the data I pulled it from was actually from the advanced the area aging um present what you call the report so um not sure where that got mixed up there but it doesn't matter I mean it's still 30% and it's still the largest population segment or the fastest growing population, >> right? >> And and the pop the problem we have with the aging well data and other data is they use different breakoff points. >> Some use 55, some use 60, some use 65. But on Neilsburg's research, the 55 plus is 30%. 30 actually almost 31%. So, but you're right. It's the fastest growing is >> and when you look at the that one statistic saying that the fastest growing of that group is 80 plus >> people in this room. So, >> it it's a growing population and I I I appreciated what the city council was saying that they all noticed the food table, transportation, employment, the things we're looking at. And we started this, you might recall 2024, 25. One of the issues came up was how do we get out to more people in transportation, using the buses, getting it was on the table back then, but they wanted data. So, we have data and we'll see. It really depends on what Longmont Food Rescue can afford or to give us fine for us, but I think we can expand it hopefully in other parts of the community. We'll see and certainly ask the question. Any questions? >> You know, council really enjoys they really integrate and are a part of it. They get to talk to people and they're it's just very important that people get to know them and see them that their hopes are getting to be known and out there. >> And many of them came by the the tent at the unity in the community and spoke about what we're doing whatever all of us. So it's nice to see >> I think they're really recognizing it much more. You know, when we went in the first time we did this presentation in front of council, you could just tell council was looking at us as we're telling them things like really like they didn't have the understanding of really what goes on at the senior center. And I think that's improved just continued to improve because of their participation and our things we're involved in, things we're bringing public, you know, public facing um ideas and plans and things like that. I think it's making us look much more organized, much more, you know, attentive to needs of the of the citizens or the senior citizens. And I think definitely um council is recognizing that senior center is something big in this city now, more so than they had before. I think that's my opinion. And the personal invitation that we make to them, come on. Come on, John. Bring your family. I want to get it going. Move it. >> [laughter] >> I have a friend who [clears throat] um doesn't have a car and I don't know if this is the case now. By the way, I really appreciate the Saturday Longmont food table. It's excellent. you get your choice of food, but she goes to the hour center marketplace on Friday and I give her a ride back because um she has a walker and she gets there with Ride Longmont. But previously, and someone cleared this up for me, Longmont Ride said you couldn't have more than three or five bags with you, >> right? >> Is that still the case? >> I think so. That's what I >> see. She can't do the Saturday thing for that. If she's taking Ride Longmont, I would have to give her a ride back. That's a problem. >> Well, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait one second. >> You could only have like three to four bags. They originally said you could only have what could be in front of your seat. Kind of like the airliner, put it on your on your lap because they didn't want other chairs being, you know, other seats used up with people's groceries. Bottom line is she can't use this service because she gets as much as she can. She's really efficient with >> she get more than three bags here >> at the market. She gets about three bags, but sometimes they're really full and heavy and she can't carry them. So, I help her put them in my car and take them back with her. So, that's part of the problem. The other one is the hour center. Just second. The hour center gives you your choice of food where West View, they load your car up and you get stuff that you don't want. So, I really like this service here and the hour center. It's what you get to choose what you want and you get to take the shopping cart at that place. So, anyway, but but for her to do this on Saturday, I don't think she'd be able to do it because she'd have to carry the stuff out to the where they pick them up, I guess, in the circle here. And so it'd be really hard for her with her disability and uh the walker and not having a car. So just that segment of the population that don't have vehicles and have physical disabilities, I think a lot of people if we took a survey on all those people, they're not coming to this. So, um, one thought I had on that was, um, John and I actually, um, every other week we distribute food to people's homes >> that are unable to, for whatever reason, come to a food pantry and, uh, the one we is through West View Presbyterian Church. Um, and it's a lot of food. Would you agree, John? >> Do you go to uh, Fall River Apartments up there? >> We'll we'll go. So, we'll go anywhere. >> Oh, >> if the inquiry comes in to uh Is that inquiry coming into >> Lama Food Rescue? Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Go on their website and request help and >> they have something at Fall River, but she says usually they don't have hardly anything good. Well, >> they do at the Westview at the Westview Presbyterian Church. I think the the variety of food available is >> pretty darn good. Do they still have that every other week one where you could come and pick yourself? >> No. What they'll do is they'll load they load up a cart with a variety of food items. >> Oh. >> Um, so you do get what they but but when they come out with the shopping cart, they will tell you extra items they have available. Do you want this? Do you not want this? Do you want this? So you do get some selection capability. >> Do you know if you've ever been to Fall River? >> I've never been to Fall River. >> No. I'm afraid to ask them because I don't want to rock that boat. >> Contact Long Blond Food Rescue and if they can do it, they'll do it. They're very >> amendable to helping whoever is in need, whatever they're >> they do the inquiry at that apartment complex. >> Whoever wants the service needs to contact Long Rescue and then they will direct us to make the deliveries. Yes. >> So, contact them. They're the source. >> We don't again we don't have to get the request complexes. We get literally a family, the size of the family, their address, >> and and some directions how to get there. >> Oh, do you mean to the individual person, not to a complex door to the person? >> Oh, knock on their door so they can call you. Okay, >> Lonnie. >> Cool. >> When I've used my long mount drivers have been very helpful with helping me with groceries. There are times I have three or four bags and they'll ask me if I need help. >> Okay. >> They'll ask me if I want them to help me pick [snorts] put it in the car. They'll ask me if I want to help if they want me to have help getting it out of the car. So, they're usually pretty good about that. And if she's coming here, she wouldn't have more than one. >> Yes, she would. >> Or two bags. >> Yeah, we we'll we'll carry >> there people here that carry out to the pickup point for Longmont. Long ride Longmont. >> Oh, I didn't realize that. Okay, good. Yeah, but the people ride long mount drivers are pretty helpful. >> Yeah, they So if she has them, you know, she might be able if she's stuck and she needs to use Ride Longmont. >> She has she comes here and she, you know, she has two or three bags, she might be able to just ask Ride Longmont if they'll help her put it in the car. >> And she has told me that once she goes from her apartment to like the north end of town, what normally would take me driving half hour turns into a pretty lengthy day. It's her day gets taken up two to four hours. >> So that's that's exhausting when you're a senior. I mean, I can barely go when I drive myself, let alone having to wait. I saw her waiting at Ark one day on her chair and you know, oh, they're coming in two minutes. They're coming in two minutes. I checked. >> Yeah. If you call food rescue, they will tell you. They will tell you, you know, what they provide at Fall River and they will take her name and they will put her in for a request for a delivery. >> Good. >> I know there was a woman here at the food um table that last time who also does deliveries. >> Mhm. >> She was [clears throat] saying that she after she left here that one of the things that she does is she delivers food directly to people. So >> yeah, what what John pointed out there is that the amount of events that Longmont Food Rescue does do around the city is incredible. And then what now they're getting into, you know, personalized delivery, whatever. They're pretty incredible group of people. >> Oh, yeah. >> So, all right. >> Anything else? We'll move on to reports. Christina, thank you for >> getting here. John, I'm not finding the more detailed um Ronnie's report. Do you have can he provide you the >> just >> I have board vacancies and >> that's all we got was >> recommendations >> board. Okay, so that's all I that's all I needed >> and we we touched on that earlier. >> You did touch on board vacancies. Okay, so we're good there. All right. So, by law, um, and then I'm happy to answer any questions that you might have just in general. Um, by law recommendations, >> we submitted that to the city attorney back in December. >> Yes. Yes. Um, let me get to where I have that screen. It's quite morning. Let's see. Close this between um teams emails and um chats. Uh it's hard to track everything. [clears throat] Okay. Do you have rescues number >> specific specific >> start I'm sorry just go just go online just go >> to that Okay. So section 2.4 um a majority of which must be at least 55 years of age is what uh that under 2.42 is what is being recommendate recommended. So request a change from a majority of which shall be at least 55 years of age. really uh the recommendation is to change that to a majority of which must be at least 55. Here's a page. >> Um so the requested other request to change a quorum shall consist of a majority of the entire membership of the board um to a majority of the entire current membership of the board is what is being um recommended. any changes to the Longmont Municipal Code, um the council needs to needs to uh have that presented to them and approved. Um any changes to the code. And then um the other thing is uh uh section 2.8430 um A through D. um we probably don't want to have um uh and services added to that part. Um I think in general uh staff um knows that um really there's that that difference between operational um and and um kind of advisory piece of things. And so at this point we wouldn't um recommend moving forward uh with really the advis putting the advisory board in a place where they would review the the senior budget because it really is um an administrative matter for city staff to to um to really handle that that piece of things. um you know uh it it is um yeah >> but it's in the ordinance. >> It's one of our responsibilities to review budget. >> Okay. Let me let me follow up on that at this point. Um [clears throat] >> you know I I guess what I'm saying is I don't think anybody here really wants to go over the budget line item by line item anything like like that. However, I think a lot of us on the board would like to see exactly how the money is allocated to different programs and services. >> Absolutely. Absolutely. And that's available on the website. >> And so that information should be available in available to us in some some fashion. >> Absolutely. Absolutely. And just >> and so um I I just want to make sure that we're not excluded from >> Oh, no, no, no. It's not a a means of excluding. And I think, you know, from staff's perspective in preparing the budget and making those recommendations and kind of going through the internal process, that really is what I'm I'm referring to. In fact, I was in a budget meeting this this morning um and uh was reminded that anything that is presented to council actually lives on the website. And so you have access anybody in the community has access access to >> well what I'm thinking though is we have generally not had any input to the budget and by the time we talk about budget it's already resolved it's already settled you know it even might be adopted by the city council by the time we even see any kind of of the budget. >> So we really should whatever impact of review we have should be early >> yes >> in the process. Now, that doesn't mean that I think we need to be part of the budget discussions that the city has. >> Absolutely. >> I'm just saying that if we have some program or service that we think needs to get more funding, whether it's staff or buildings or whatever, >> we need to get that to you and we need the information that we would base those recommendations on >> before you get before the budgetary process starts. >> Right. Absolutely. And so what I would recommend to this board is that the the final budget will be um adopted in um we're going through the process now. So by October we'll know what the 2027 budget is where where we will start the process again for 2028 is um probably um internal divisions April May. And so I would say that if this board wants to have some uh discussion or conversation about about 2028 budget, it would really be in the best interest to have that discussion um January, February, maybe into March. Um because what Ronnie will have to do is have all of his budget requests into me in April and then that goes to our uh uh assistant city manager for external services. Um she needs to have it have all of the requests ranked um for all of the departments in external services by Memorial Day. And so I'm thinking January, February, maybe a little into March, this board should have that that discussion and we'll have the line item budget ready for 2027. Um I think we get access to that probably November time frame. It'll be in the in the budget system. Does that help? >> Yeah. Um that's almost exactly what I was thinking. It's really It's a little late for 27, >> but the process you just described would would work for 28. >> Yes. >> And see, I'm thinking that I don't know how valuable this community service uh survey is going to be. >> It might be very useful. It may not be that useful at all. We'll have to see, but that should give us some >> indication of the programs and service that maybe we want to tweak a little bit. I don't know. We'll we'll see. And then so that's before the budgetary pre process starts in January, February and March and in through there. So I see a process of re reviewing information particularly the community survey and anything else we might want to and then use that as a basis. >> I don't know if I'm speaking for anybody else but uh >> but I think we should know from Ronnie >> what I'm sorry >> when that time comes >> from Ronnie we have >> January, February, March >> input. Ronnie is supposed to be Yeah. >> telling us when and what. So, >> exactly. >> Part of I would put I would put that on the agenda to have the discussion in January. >> Um and then that way as Ronnie is looking at at data, looking at internal internal division needs, kind of what staff is bringing forward to him, he can he can go through in kind of that informed process from all of the different sources. um where he would kind of bring that bring that to the the the table. And so again, he brings the the division budget. I prioritize it at a department level and then my boss Jen Uten um prioritizes all of external services. So this uh human services um recreation, golf, and um culture. We have um facilities in in our external services um department. So then it kind of gets bigger. She um she prioritizes that and then based on that we present to Harold and the finance. >> Okay. >> Well, I think >> Thank you. >> What's what's interesting is that particular ordinance item we didn't want to change. We just want to the clarity you just gave us. >> Yeah. >> Is what we're looking for. >> Yeah. So >> yeah, >> with that in mind, are there one or two board members who'd like to get together and talk about talking with Ronnie, say December, January, [snorts] um about that? Because he's going to be starting a process then. So one or two to sit down with him and chat. Anybody interested in doing that? >> I'm going to make another recommendation. I think we should put it on January's agenda. >> Yeah, I think that Yes. >> talk about the budget. Then we can all see it and then we can all have input of whatever we're individually doing whatever projects we're individually doing. >> Any doubt have a little input on when what we need or if we need anything tweaked if we want to see a little more emphasis or a little more budget for something that would be a good time to have that discussion. I >> think January is a good time. >> Okay. >> Maybe jump in a second. What I'm hearing from this discussion is there's a desire from the board to have some to have opportunity that is timely >> to contribute feedback to the priorities. >> What I'm hearing from Christina as well is that there are multiple stage gates in that process as I see firsthand as well. And so what I would perhaps ask maybe Christina and Ronnie to discuss like when would whether it's the January agenda or a different time like what is the right timing where that is both productive for the board and productive for staff to be able to be prepared for that. >> I would say before March. >> Okay. >> Because then the internal work um starts within the division then the department then external services. And so I think having Ronnie have that information earlier in the year will then um inform him on what he um will submit into the budget system for leader rank by um Memorial Day by the end. >> And what maybe I'll just add in here and this is a little bit of preview of the update that I'll provide as well. You know, the other thing to keep in mind with the budget is there's what are the priorities and and needs in the budget and then there's what is the fiscal reality of our our better budget. And we just found out in the last couple weeks as a city that the state was taking certain money that like uh that we were weren't sure whether they were like what time that was going to and it was like to the tune of like half a million quarters a million dollars that we're now continuing to adjust for. So that's this late in the process for our budget planning. And so I just want to remind people that it it is both important to set the priorities up front and then there is inherent not necessarily attrition but adjustments that continue to be made that may be irrespective. I mean the priorities help shape that but that may be out of certain control because of certain funding realities or sales tax and use tax revenue that we are projecting but maybe doesn't materialize or maybe there's a policy or macroeconomic situation that happens that changes what we would get six months later from that budget discussion. Hey, >> just wanted to add that color into this discussion as to when what might change from like a February conversation to like an August or September actual budget presentation. >> I think the other part that I'll add to that, Council Member Popkin, is that we with all best intent and um knowing that what we need will bring those recommendations forward. Um this particularly has been a really difficult budget year. And so there may be a scenario where um Harold and his leadership team will ask uh department directors, okay, you put this on the table. What of that knowing all of these different factors are you willing to take off of the table? um or where in your whole department budget are you willing to take reductions um just across the board. We we have had those conversations and so that's a great point because we bring forward things um with all of the best intent doesn't mean that that can't significantly change in July, August, September um and maybe even into the September budget presentations. I know we're waiting to find out, you know, what happens in the November elections with some measures that that are on um there that could significantly impact the budget. Um if they ask >> I I just want to be clear. I didn't mean to suggest that we're going to ask for a bunch of more money. It'd be more I think you said tweaking it be more matter more matter matter of tweaking maybe from one area to another as as we see your priorities. Right. Yeah. >> And knowing and just knowing what is being presented and we would have a better idea of what to look for in the next 6 12 months, >> you know, things like that. So it's really just an education >> and taking it from that high level um high level 30,000 foot advisory view and really it is about operationally staff doing staff doing that work and making those adjustments within programs if needed. Um, so the other piece that we had a discussion about was the request to add review the annual budget request relating to senior centers, senior citizens programs and services. um uh the you know I think it really um goes back really to deferring to staff and board on the feasibility of that. I think it's fine um to add that there's really no other advisory boards that have um a non-staff representative um present in person at a at city council annually. Um, and I know that it's also appreciated. And so I think making that change is is um is is fine if we have the commitment of this of this board that that really is is kind of where we want to go with that. So um that is fine. Um, and then sections one and two of article three, let's see, request a change from a board majority of which shall be at least 55 years of age to a majority of which must be at least 55 years of age which must Okay. So changing um shall uh the recommendation was change um to must be again >> removal of section two in its entirety um sounds fine. And then um article 5 section 1 through six. And I'm thinking Bianca you probably have these notes more in detail. If not, I can send this to you just to capture in the notes. Um, so section one, there was a request to change the regular meeting in February shall be designed designated as the annual meeting um to the regular meeting in January um shall be designated as the annual meeting and open to public and publicized as such. So, all meetings are public. Um, and it's fine to change that, but just knowing that this again is a is a is a business meeting. It's public and so that changed looks fine. Um, and then section three to reflect the requested changes in chapter 2.84 and 2.842. Um it can be updated to a quorum shall consist of a majority of the entire membership of the board. Um we uh don't want to add um current um until and if the the code changes. So um it's part of a bigger process to do any code revisions. Um and so I it sounds like uh that is kind of where the recommendation comes from. like some of these are fine and just know that that it's part of of some larger work. Um adding open meeting sunshine law that no two board members. So adding all of that um you know we're not opposed to adding it but it does seem unnecessary. Open meeting laws apply regardless of the whether or not they're included in the bylaws. So, um we don't really need to add it, but um there's really no opposition. >> Is that part of the city charter? >> That is for uh governments just in general. >> But is it baked or is it baked into our charter? >> That I don't know. That's a good question. >> I know it's a state. It's a state, right? >> I'm I'm sure it I'm sure it is. I mean, I've been here almost 30 years and know that efforts and flaws. Okay. >> Um Let's see. And then the last one, article seven, the recommendation is to change um it to say the affirmative vote of the majority of the members presented shall be required for the adoption adoption of any proposed amendment to the bylaws. So as opposed to saying request change um composition term to quorum. So there's just some specific language there that we can include in the in the the notes as well. >> So will that >> questions >> so those re you're responding to our recommendations and what happens at this point? >> Um I think at this point they can be changed um and then voted on. That's probably something you want to do next time like clean clean up adding all of these recommendations you all review and then [clears throat] you can you can change it just knowing that any changes to the um to the uh code will be done when the MUN code is updated. >> Right. So do you send that back to us for us to vote on? Is that what you're saying or? Um, yeah, I think it can I it can be my in my mind the the smoothest way for it to happen is we can change the bylaws. Um, and then uh and then send that out and then you all can review it knowing kind of the notes that you have and what you requested and then pass that formally. >> Okay. >> And what are we already? October. >> Okay. >> So, did Ronnie send you those notes, Bianca? Um, >> let me let me don't even look. Let me send it to you because it's just so much >> so much to manage. Let me just uh let me chat you those because I have them in my chat. I had to I was looking all over in my um email. >> Thank you. >> Yes. Let me know if you have questions too as you're doing this. >> Okay. >> Question. I have a question. John was it trying to remember where I found the discrepancy where it said senior citizen advisory versus senior center advisory >> what's the question or >> it should all say senior citizens that what it's >> I thought I saw somewhere where it said >> senior center >> okay >> does that bring if you look for that and change all the all the to citizen >> I think one there are one or two places where it says center instead of citizen but should be citizens always. >> Always the whole way through. We'll look. Uh Bianca said that she can look for that. Find [clears throat] >> anything else. Christina, >> um that I can think of any questions for me. >> I guess not. Hey, [laughter] >> thank you. >> That's okay. You're welcome. >> Thank you. would you like to take the next few things? >> Yes. Um, so I already alluded to some of the budget conversations before, but just wanted to give a quick overview um on the city's budget. So, we we got the first download on this last night as a council. Um, so uh if the uh brief Q&A wet your appetite for more city council related discussions, there's about three hours of budget conversation and presentation last night on a range of different services. Oh, that was a short night for us. Um, the uh that starts what really will be about six weeks of intense budget presentations on different departments on different uh systems and different priorities. So, feel free there was a schedule presented uh last night. I don't have that right in front of me right now, but feel free to take a look at that or just email me if you want to know like, hey, when is this topic going to be discussed or this department going to be discussed? Happy to share more on that. As a quick overview, um the budget, so we're required to have a balanced budget as as any any municipality in Colorado is. Um we have a plan tentatively planned $548 million fiscal year 27 budget at this point. That is approximately, if you if you don't always think of budgets and in the hundreds of millions of dollars and and year-over-year, that's about a 5.2% increase from last year. Um the again that's and we're required to balance all of that with revenue versus spending. Um we are still working as I alluded to before we're working to kind of close a few remaining small gaps and a few slight policy changes and adjustments. Three of which we started discussing last night, two of which moved forward um mostly due to different state funding changes and like what's collected from what. Um and we are able to fund a few core new positions um in different services. Firefighters being most uh heavily represented in the new hires. Um I will note that that is those are new positions but it's also a realignment of and restructuring of some other positions too. I don't believe but correct me if I'm wrong. I don't believe there are any staff cuts. There were no there were no staff cuts and the firefighter hires are actually going to save us money because what was happening is that that team wasn't big enough and so we were utilizing a lot of overtime and so of the 10 positions I think nine are firefighters proposed. Yeah. From the general fund. >> Yeah. >> And then there are a few position there a couple positions in longline power and communications LPC couple across transportation sustainability and other things. Overall, I just wanted to give you that quick overview because what you might be hearing from Boulder County or City of Boulder are either cuts or they're not planning to fill open positions that they did have before. We are fortunately, yes, it's a challenging budget year as Christina mentioned before, but we are um hoping to strategically expand in in a couple areas we have to be able to meet the kind of core needs. Um, one of the key themes that I thought this board might be interested to know, uh, across the whole budget conversation last night and across a lot of the city council priorities over the last few months has increasingly been community resilience. And you might ask, well, what does that really cover? It covers a lot of things. Um, but it's not fully an umbrella, but it is a a an intentional focus on environmental resilience, on social and human resilience, the people and services and the support that they get and the economic and fiscal resilience both of the city's budget and of our local economy. That is kind of the consistent framework that we are uh taking for this budget cycle and for the city council priorities. So you might see or hear that more commonly and that that is because we're really trying to prioritize what is going what investments, what budget priorities and what capital improvements will make us more resilient um for our people, our infrastructure, our businesses and our our system overall. So that is the very high level budget preview there. Again, there's three hours of wonderful content if you want to tune in to our our city council meeting from last night, but I thought that little kind of initial overview would be helpful for this group. Um, and just letting you know that we don't have staffing cuts planned and we are aiming to still pay our staff, I believe, at 101% of market, right? That's the compensation. >> One of the real challenges is that Longman is inherently a lean city in terms of personnel. Now, that doesn't mean we don't spend money on personnel. In fact, it's a major a vast majority of our budget is on the people on the employees and and and who who deliver the services and support that we we expect. um we are much more lean compared to most of our peers. >> Yeah. >> Um in in uh in the region in terms of number of staff on a per kind of population basis. >> I have a really good example of that. If you look at um in our department, we have Alberto Mendula who oversees lots of different areas, but um one of the areas that he oversees is um really the homelessness response that we have um in terms of on the policy side. And when you look at that, um, compared to what the county does, what some of our other municipalities do, um, there are at least three to four people that are doing the job that he's doing. When you look at the job that he does on, and that's apart from like the grant side, the grant making side where we fund nonprofits, um, if you compare that to other governmental entities, um, there's probably another three to four people that do that job. And so, um, when you look at like that lean factor, we're probably as lean as we could be, >> um, in that area. It's Edberto when we have some admin admin support. So, um, that really that really hits home. And when we look around and see other um entities cutting positions like there was have been mass cut offs um um in other municipalities like around COVID we didn't take any hits and so um I'm just really thankful to to work for >> yeah there's a stability benefit there for sure employment resilience standpoint if you will u the other thing I wanted to highlight is >> looking at what we pay our staff matters when we think about how lean we are because if there is a more competitive position somewhere else, then we lose people who are maybe doing two and a half equivalent jobs and then there's a retraining and institutional knowledge loss. And so you pay for what you get, right, in general in life. And this is one of those areas too where it's important if we expect quality services and quality infrastructure and quality programs, we should be willing to pay our staff to deliver that too. So, just wanted to kind of highlight that overall structural framing, the top line, and some of the the community resilience and employment aspects of that to start. Um, I'll have a lot more detail. And again, if any of you want to either send questions to Bianca or John on like, hey, what budget topics would you like more intentional updates on next time when we next meet at the beginning of October, we'll have gone through most of those presentations at that point. And I'm happy to share more of that out. Um the we talked about some board uh adjustments earlier this year and structural changes to advisory boards. There was another one that was made earlier in August. Um and just wanted to share it doesn't it shouldn't affect you all but I just want to let you know we uh council gave direction to dissolve the golf board um and to integrate those responsibilities into the parks and recreation advisory board. That was more of a consolidation effort. there was nothing else behind that from my perspective um other than trying to add a little bit of efficiency from our staff side and perhaps streamline [snorts] those boards. We did ask both boards their feedback on this approach um and um the golf board said how soon can you do it? [laughter] So that seemed like a hole in one there. Um so couple couple transportation updates I want to share. One, we talked about ride long earlier. There was a question about that. I want to let folks know that we got an additional partnership grant with RTV to expand ride long services. I believe we're adding I don't know the exact timeline of when this kicks in, but I uh we're adding two new vehicles >> um to expand to hopefully reduce weight times and increase our capacity. And we'll be adding I believe it's later night hours. Um I don't know if it's I can't remember if it's 10 if it's 10 p.m. or midnight. I think it's 10 p.m. It's 10 p.m. >> on on I think it's 8:00 p.m. currently. >> It is the weekend later. >> And so we would be adding two weekend on Friday and Saturday nights. I believe we'd be adding it to go later. I think it was to go to 10 p.m. It might be midnight. Um but don't quote me on the midnight. I'm more confident in 10 the 10. >> Those ones are partying >> for all of the partying that you're doing. Yes, they will be there for you. >> Money in >> they will be there for you. And so um that is that is a very welcome change. Truly that is through the partnership agreement with with RTD on this. Um and um so that should reduce weight times during regular hours and also expand a little bit of our our opportunity to support the community on on some of those later nights which in trans which translates also into supporting our businesses that are open um around our downtown peaks and throughout town um who are serving people who want kind of a a later night set of activities on on Friday and Saturday. >> So um wasn't going to call anyone out. Um, the other thing that's also really good news, um, and we have the, uh, state and RTD to thank on this, uh, as well as our staff and and, uh, my previous council members and current council for their advocacy. Um, the the, uh, bus to the Denver International Airport is officially approved and funded. Um, that's the AL bus, airport to Longmont. Um, if you've ridden the AB bus, that actually stands for airport to Boulder, in case you didn't know that. So, the AL bus will go live September 27th. Um, >> this year. >> This year. September 27th. >> Wow. >> Um, and it is funded and will be running from 6:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m. on the hour. There will be two stops in Longmont. One at 8 in Kaufman and one south at the RTD Park and Ride, which hasn't really been active recently, but it does exist. It's right It's kind of right at on 287 across from the museum like Jersey Avenue the old RTD. >> Yes, the old the old RTD spot there. So >> trying to figure out >> basically across 287 from the museum and like one block up that's in the map there. So just >> if if you are in South Longmont that is an easy one to stop at there if you're south of 119. Otherwise Eighth and Kaufman should serve majority of the population too. Uh that'll be $10 per adult uh reduced price for seniors and free for people 18 uh 19 and under. Um >> that's amazing. >> It is amazing. It's wonderful. Um and and so that will get going again 6:00 a.m. to 1000 p.m. for now. If there's enough ridership demand, they'll consider looking at an expansion of the two. The other thing to note about it is it is really intended as an airport express bus. So there are four stops that it has. Eighthan Kaufman South Longmont Nywatt Park and Ride Lafayette hits 470 goes straight to the airport. So um it will probably take approximately pending traffic 90-ish minutes um kind of from Aan Kaufman to the airport. But keep in mind you don't have to park. You don't have to pay to park. You don't have to get yourself from the parking area to the terminal. If you've never taken the airport bus before or any bus to the airport, >> um that will drop you off right basically where the light rail drops you off as well. It's below those escalators under the hotel. Um, so you get off the bus and it's basically a one minute escalator ride up to the main terminal. So it really does drop you off in a convenient spot. So the door to door time and actually be very similar than to if you were driving point to point and then having to park and get yourself to the terminal. So >> the hour >> um it's it's running it'll be running hour it'll be running hourly [clears throat] from Longmont. It'll be about a 90minute ride >> to the terminal itself. >> What time is that? uh 6 am >> starting at 6 >> starting at 6 am from from here and running until I think the last one is scheduled to leave long run at 10 p.m. So, it will cover a lot of flights. It won't cover all of them. But again, the part of the goal is to really uh highlight uh to test it out and see how much demand there is. And again, keep in mind that's for you to use and for people who are visiting you to use. If they arrive at the airport, you no longer have to pick them up. >> Exactly. You no longer have to be friendly and go pick them up. They can come. >> So, um great. Hopefully, it's a great opportunity and it really increases the affordability and accessibility of getting to the airport and wherever you're going from there. Um, you know, I think a lot of people don't like I mean a flight to like New York right now could be 400 bucks. An Uber to the airport could be a hundred, >> right? And so to be able to say that's $20 round trip for a regular adult and you know about $10 round trip for a senior citizen like is a huge win from an affordability standpoint. Then you can figure out what late night activities you want to spend that extra money on. [laughter] >> But it unless something change it was about 35%. >> Uh it could be that. Thank you. I wasn't sure if it was in the five $6 range or >> Yeah, it's >> Yeah. So um it Yeah. Go ahead. >> I'm presuming that that'll be incorporated into the RTD app. >> Uh it should be it's a service run by RT. >> You can pay and reserve and I mean all that sort of thing. >> Yeah. You shouldn't have to reserve. loud. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> I just didn't want other people to be confused who might be transition. But please tell your neighbors, tell your friends, tell others seniors around the senior center. It's a really it's truly a way to increase accessibility and affordability around the region um from from getting around. >> Did you say the the ride long the extra vehicles have been approved but no date of when they're going in service? >> Ask the question again. is the ride long two additional vehicles has been approved. >> Yes, we we we got a grant for that >> and no date of when they'll be in service. >> I don't quite know. I don't I don't have an update exactly on when the implementation of the two ride vehicles will be. >> So, so the ride to the airport you don't have to call ahead of time for you just >> it is exactly >> exactly it'll be for those who haven't taken the AB bus um from from Boulder to the airport. that is just a fixed route service >> that continues and and I I know you're asking because there are some of those kind of call and reserve systems that do exist. This is not one of those. This is a fixed route service. There will be a map that shows this the expected times and the exact work that it follows. >> Um I can I sent that out to some residents this uh I think yesterday uh Monday. Yeah. Um but if you didn't get that and you wanted to email me, go ahead. Uh feel free to just let me know. Um but that's a fixed route service. You don't have to call. You can just show up. you can bring as many bags as you want um to my knowledge. Um and it is a larger larger bus that you just ride straight to the airport. Um there will be a few stops in between just to pick people up because Lafayette can also benefit from this. Um not a lot of folks can go to park and ride. I mean anyone can go to any stop. Um but this will be primarily starting and ending in in Lmont. Um so enjoy safe travels and uh go see the world. Um, the last update I wanted to offer, so and again that starts September 27th. That will be >> So, are there going to be flyers? >> There should be. Uh, there's definitely going to be stuff online. I haven't seen any physical flyers yet, but usually RTD will print those. So, maybe we can get some of those in the uh senior center as well for people to be able to pick up. Um and again just to like it can be it can be used for yourself or for people visiting you which is >> if people have din they want to donate because you know they enjoy the service really worth it. Is there a possibility that they would donate? Why not you know people are too if you compare the Uber? >> Yeah. If you compare the Uber parking, even just driving and parking, I mean, you know, if I was driving the when I drive to the airport, can I park in one of the more affordable lots of pay station and hop on the light rail? Like that's a if I that's like $6 a day. >> Um per, you know, that's one of the cheapest lots. Um it could be 10, 15, $20 depending on the lot you're in. Um I I would say RTD would uh be grateful for donations. What I would say is like what might be the most helpful right now is demonstrated ridership. Um and then to justify the service and the driver and the vehicles and uh any feedback you have of that you can send to me or to others and I can pass along to the RTV board and our representatives there. Um, I mean, just for context, I went to the July 28th RT meeting in Denver um, when they were deciding on this. Um, and while the funding had largely been sorted, like that was technically at the same meeting, they were voting on root cuts and they were looking at that, too. And so, I went there to really stress how important this was. And and one of the things I was able to bring bring to the table there was when I was actually campaigning last fall, I was asking people uh door to door and some of you may remember getting asked this if I saw you on the campaign trail, how often if we had a bus to the Denver International Airport, how often would you use it? Not would you, how often? Because that ridership matters. Um and I was able to go tell RTD that of the near thousand people that I asked that question to personally, um over 70% said they would use it six times or more per year. and only 8% of people said they would never use it. >> Or maybe take some burritos to the bus driver. >> There's there's a lot of different ways to make the make folks feel welcome and appreciated there, [laughter] whether it's burritos or using it. Um but please uh if you do use it uh or if you do appreciate having it, even if you don't use it regularly, send that feedback um to us. Let us that is super helpful for us to have in writing and we will pass those comments along and we'll and like and and make sure that people know just how appreciated that is. So, last thing I'll just note, uh, we have been discussing over the last few months, uh, short-term rental policy, um, changes in in the city, um, particular around special events. Um, Sundance being the catalyst for this. Uh, Boulder has already changed its short-term rental policy to accommodate this. Um, the city council did approve in late August, so I guess last week, uh, what we're calling a type B short-term rental license. We already had type A. Well, we didn't call it type A because there was only one. Um, but we did have a short-term rental policy before. This now allows it for specific designated short-term events um with a slightly different fee structure and approval process. Um, I will note that this is allowed for property owners um as long as you're a Longmont property owner or renters in Longmont as well. if you wanted to sub sublet your uh unit for or a part of your unit for that time period. Um that license policy is now officially approved. So if you're thinking about that, just know that there are uh rules and guidelines around that and and kind of structure for that. Obviously, if you are a renter or if you're any property owner, please just make sure that the neighborhood or development or community you live in, you are complying with all of the rules and policies that you have. that is your responsibility to to rent uh to uh do a short-term rental responsibility. Um so just wanted to note that that will be in a trial period for one year um now going through again Sundance will be the obvious event but if there was if the Denver region was hosting a World Cup round of games and stuff that would be like another situation where the city could say you know what we're going to designate this as a short-term a type B eligible event. Um, so if you are interested or just want to learn more about that, just know that is officially on the books. With that, I think I'll pass back unless you have questions. >> Matthew, I've got a this mean appropriate for city council versus county. I mean, we had an ad before that was probably not >> that wasn't um any discussion about um voting in November mail in ballots given what could potentially happen with the USPS. >> Um short answer is no. >> Okay. Not at this time. Um and I'm not sure that's something we really have authority over. I think that's state >> driven largely, right? Um, but I won't I don't want to speak to all of the legal elements of that as we really have not had any conversations. >> No conversation. >> Okay. The only thing the only election related conversations we've had to date are on what's going on the ballot, what the election date is, and what measures are there. >> Okay. Thank you. Yep. >> Thank you, Matthew. Um, Christine, I have one question on on staffing. Been asked about what's happening with the position here that's open. Can you discuss that at all or? Um yes, we are looking at um at doing some restructure in terms of um what we ask that um position that person to do. That's not to say that that that kind of being the recreation supervisor wouldn't be um the primary primary duty of that of that open position. But anytime there is a vacancy, I always ask division managers to really look at that and and um make recommendations on um how we might change up things. Um we of course had to wait um a little bit to see what was going to happen with the budget um to make sure that we wouldn't we wouldn't lose that position. Quite frankly, that is not um the case. we are still able to hire that position. And what Ronnie and I have done um is that we have met with the staff. Um we had uh kind of a a dreaming session about hey what are the things that you're doing? What are the things that you know a new person could help with? We know that that um our senior center team to council [clears throat] member Hopkins point um we have a lean team, right? And so they work um they work tirelessly to to provide exceptional service to the community. And so what we wanted to gauge was uh what that what that look that look like in terms of the the needs that our different teams have recreation um resource uh and referral side of things and then our admin um team. And so then kind of backing into that and looking at those dollars and saying, "Okay, we need know we need somebody to supervise the uh the recreation side of what we do. Um what else can this person maybe do and how might we be able to reclassify this this position and really hire for what we need?" Um Ronnie gave me several different proposals and I think we're at the point where we're ready to meet with um my boss and with with Harold with our our um executive team to say this is what we're proposing. What do you think? Do we need to make any tweaks? What are the things that we're not not seeing? What questions do you have? And then at that point, we'll be able to kind of talk um talk to advisory board, talk to the team about about what uh what changes there there may be. Maybe it'll be status quo. Um but but maybe we can we can shake that shake that up a little. Um we've been really deliberate about not outrunning Harold's headlights and making promises that we can't that we can't uh keep. And so that's why we're just like, "Okay, let's talk about this. Let's run it through Jen. that's running through Herald. We need to make sure that we're on point with finance and the money that we want to spend that that money is going to be there. And then with human resources just in terms of outlining what we need this position to do um and make sure that we have that in the right uh classification. >> I guess the bottom line question was you you were able to maintain the position. >> Maintain the position. It may look a little different. we didn't get the we didn't get the um money taken away from us to to fill that budget gap, which I was like, okay, we're not cutting any staff. We didn't um lose uh that open position because that's where organizations start, right? Is they look at all of the positions that are um that are open and is that a is that a good way to to save money? And Jen um really went to to bat for us to say no. like these are all of the reasons why I need to hold on to this in my area. This work is happening and this is all the data that supports that we really need that need that position. Um so I'm really thankful to her, thankful to uh you know Harold and his his direct reports that they recognize the hard work that that this um this division does. >> That's good news. Thank you. >> It was very good news. It was very good news. So, probably not till the beginning of next year though. >> Um, you know, my hope is that we can um get in front of Harold. Uh, Ronnie's on vacation now in the next few weeks and then Ronnie and I will have a chance to sit down, meet, kind of get our our presentation together to to talk with Harold. Um, and then once we get that approval, um, I'm thinking it might be a little bit before, like the money's there. Um, and so, uh, I'm I'm hopeful we can do it before, but I think that's probably the worst case scenario. >> So, >> because they are working their off, >> everybody's working really hard. Yes. >> All right. Uh, area agency report. I just pass it out to everyone. I think the bottom line for me at the meeting was woman who spoke on agism, excuse me, understanding agism and the very subtle and not so subtle things that people say or do around older adults. Two things to point out. The the key to what she had to say was that underneath guest speaker, understanding agism begins with awareness. The common belief is living longer is okay. getting older, not so much. >> And that was the lead in for her conversation the next 45 minutes. And it's really, if you read this, the back of the page, subtle ways that people discriminate. And one thing she also said, think about this, agism is the last socially acceptable discrimination practice. If you say something about person of color or prefer, whatever, it raises hackles. But to make jokes about older adults, not so much. Went on to say what it gave me the most appreciation for is the senior center. It talks about social, you know, nice being socially isolated, whatever, and how older adults are treated and perceived. And that experience for me here, I'm sure say shared here, is it's a safe place to be an older adult always. That's been my experience and said that at the open meeting anyway that I I thought it was interesting to see the subtle things where you call get called honey or sweetie or someone grabs you by the arm to help you. Oh my gosh. Anyway, it was interesting to see the subtle ways that people treat older adults. Not here. So that's the gist of the report. >> Can I add one quick thing >> quick? People stop saying I'm so many years old. I want people to start saying I'm so many years of age, so many years of life, or so many years of living. 80 years of living, 80 years of life, because that's what we've been doing. Thank you. >> Good point. Thank you. >> No, the life living in good. >> That's right. and she's looking forward to the ride along mode open [laughter] >> in the morning in the morning. Good. >> Uh John friends >> highlight for friends. Um I provided the report so I'm not going to dwell on too much. Um the biggest one of the biggest things that I thought was interesting when um Amy Pan did her presentation was that um the need for housing assistance keeps increasing. That's >> [sighs] >> It's not unexpected, but it's very concerning and and we all see that. You know, I see that even when I'm doing other volunteer efforts where people are, you know, talking about they're struggling to make their rent or struggling to stay in their house or having to rent out a room in their house, that kind of thing. >> Probably there's housing, but the affordability >> it goes >> be able to get better at. >> That's right. Yeah. I want a fixed income. it's, you know, but because I'm paying more for groceries or I'm paying more for insurance or I'm paying more for this and that and this and that, now all of a sudden I'm being squeezed on the housing side of things, right? >> Um, and the other thing she said was that it's it's getting younger, right? So, she mentioned 50 to 59. Um, so early, you know, seniors, early seniors, what you want to call it, um, they're seeing an increase in that as well. Um, which which goes into in a weird way, it goes into employment, right? Because a lot of people 50 to 59 years old are either still employed or they're actively seeking employed. >> Well, some don't want to hire them because they're over 50. >> Oh, yeah. I know that >> that's pretty bad. >> I know that firsthand. >> Very extremely close. >> Yeah. [snorts] I'm not going to go into the financials. Um I was it seemed to me like the financials was working out okay. I didn't see a problem with that. um board development because when it wasn't too long ago, just a couple months ago, where there were some concerns about the number of open board positions uh for friends and and a difficult time getting applicants for that, but uh during the last meeting, looks like 21 people, maybe it's more now, that expressed interest in being on the Friends board. So, I think you're going to have lots of good recruits potentially >> at the Unity of the Community. Amy Hunter, who's on the the selection committee, several of the board people who are being looked at for board positions came by to talk to her. So, as a rec again, the recognition of friends and what they're doing in the community, but 21 applications for I think five positions. So, >> yeah, >> well done. >> That's all I want to say to that. Thank you. >> Well, there's one thing on there we should should point out. You all have gotten a copy of the newest brochure. Donna, >> Donna, Donna, speak to that for just a minute. What the process that Donna and Laura and Denise went through to get that done. >> Pretty incredible. >> It's a be it's a beautiful beautiful brochure. >> What is it? >> What's What's next from the friends, Donna? >> What's next? You got this this brochure. What's coming? >> Oh, well, we have there's a cascade there. There's going to be a second brochure, a legacy brochure for uh people who are considering leaving their legacy donation to the friends of the Longmont Senior Center that's in the works. Uh we have other collateral that's that's coming along, but uh but the next big project and then an updated website because our website is a little tired and needs u needs some attention. So, those are the two big things, >> but the new logo is on there. >> And the new logo, yes, it's got our new logo on it. >> We also have a new donation envelope >> and all of these are out at the front uh reception area. >> Uh and so, I mean, printed with our new logo and John has the very first donation that was made with the new envelope and the very last donation that was made with the old lo. >> Oh, there's those nice. Throw that away. There's actually money in here. [laughter] >> You should get the boys two. >> There's your first one. [laughter] >> Feel free to fill the envelope. >> Happily. So, and both the brochure and the envelope have a QR code on them. And if people use the QR, that will take you immediately to our donation site on in our CRM system, our new CRM system. >> Thank you all for doing that. It's a great that brochure is beautiful. >> Thank you. >> It even feels even a local design agency here. Uh, and they are they're marvelous. >> Highly recommend. >> Okay, that's it. John. John, anything else? >> Yep. >> Okay, Eric. >> Uh, sustainability. I went to the meeting at the Broadway food hall, ran into my Zach basically gave the same presentation that he gave here last meeting. Um, It's pretty much the same thing. That's about it. >> How's this air conditioning giveaway going? >> They were down to almost never >> Okay. Interesting. >> How about their lawn equipment? >> Oh, they were talking about the tal about the lawn equipment. They didn't say how much >> they were about to do another event. >> Oh, they just they just really started pushing it. They did the one at uh >> just a couple weeks ago. >> Yeah, it was >> last couple of weeks. >> Okay. John and Dave senior employment. >> Uh sure. I'll I'll kick it off. Um so we have the job fair coming up in SE September 15th. There's a brochure or a flyer for the job fair that was in the packet. Um one thing y'all could do to help out is U. Um Dave and I talked about going to businesses. You know, Main Street's a good example. A lot of businesses on Main Street have community boards. So, um if you could go in there and ask them, hey, can we put up a flyer for the job fair? Um see if we can get that to promote that as much as possible. I was a little disturbed. I uh just got an email u about 15 minutes ago from Liliana Moon. So, she's with workforce who's running the job fair. We're providing the space. They're providing all the logistics and and all they're doing all the invites. There are only currently it looks like 1 2 3 4 5 maybe 12 uh companies that they've invited um or or or per potentially who've responded that are coming to the job fair. So, City of Longmont, um, Town of Erie, a couple of businesses, School of Rock, Bank, University of Colorado, Walgreens. Um, that's a little disappointing. I would I would expected quite a few businesses would have been um one one area that I told her, I said, you know, we've got a lot of banks around here. >> You know, why aren't you, you know, reaching out to financial institutions? Um, so anything we can do to help I think is really important on this. >> Maybe you can put up some of if you're going to something in the community that's got a community board put this up. >> Yeah. >> Are they available? >> Well, it's a job. You mean a bilingual somebody? >> Um, I can ask I can ask the >> John. Flyers available, John. >> What's that? >> Flyers. Do you have them? >> The only flyer is what is in the packet. Um, >> I can give you my flyer. >> Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. some some of the companies might I >> John didn't you say that bank was supportive of seniors bank you talked >> was Bimmo was one of the ones who responded okay yeah >> and I actually sent her an email as well the lady that was at the last one so I don't know if that got her but there you know there there are a lot of financial institutions around here um and they Beimo I I'll just I've told John this you know the Beimo lady said we loves seniors because um they primarily she said they they they'll work part-time. >> Yeah. >> So if they're businesses that would like to come to the fair business, can they >> business a business that wants to come should email her email address is on there >> on flyer. That's how it works >> under the RSVP. >> Yeah. Leiana Moon. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> What about what about healthc care institutions? >> Yeah, I would think uh you know we've got numerous two hospitals, right? >> Um if and a lot of those have community boards, but um I passed out a few at Unity in the community. I passed out a couple there. There was a credit union across from us that I um Yeah. Just Yeah. Think out of the box. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Even if you're going you're going to your bank or whatever, just give them one of these and ask them. They obviously need seniors. So >> So the center was in color. Is there like a >> Well, the it is in color. So the the email that's not >> Yeah. Our printer, >> but the the the email you got from Ronnie, the PDF should be in color. >> Okay. >> The printer will print. >> Could you send it to >> my printer? Yep. Yes. In Bianca Princ. >> Yes. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> That's extra. [laughter] >> Have to sell some more burritos. >> Hey Bianca, where would they be located? Like folks wanted to pick up few flyers. Where would they get them from? >> Uh probably we'll have them at the front desk. front desk. >> Okay. >> Uh let's see. Oh, we're gonna meet Dave and I today are going to meet with one of the workforce navigators. So, we're trying to understand more. Workforce has a tremendous amount of resources for people in general that need employment. Um but we're going to meet with the resource [snorts] navigator this afternoon to understand more about what they do to help people find employment, get skills that are needed for employment. You want to add something to that, Dave? >> Well, you kind of you kind of said it, but I I'm optimistic about this meeting this afternoon. I really am because the model that they're using, I think, is is really good. Seems like they've got everything. They've got counseling, they've got interviewing, they've got job development, they've got training, they've got support services, and put them all together. And uh you know, I hope it turns out that they use all of those parts, you know, to help older workers get position. It's not just for older workers, of course, it's for everybody. >> Um but I I'm really optimistic that maybe we could, you know, make something work out of out of >> So they help them to navigate, how to enter, how to do it if they've never done it. >> Yeah. >> That's important because some of them feel intimidated and said, "No, no, no way. I don't go. >> We need a um I don't know how to do it exactly, but we need some sort of connection. Now, I you know, we have counselors here and they make referrals to the workforce all the time. So, that's in place already, but I'm thinking more of something to kind of keep track of people, you know, that that older workers that come through. They need follow, you know, they need support. minorities uh need uh >> how do you like it? How do you feel? >> Yeah, exactly. That sort of thing. They need they need more than in that process, that transition process, that referral process that I think they've gotten in the past. And I think that's that's part of what I'd like to talk about with the career navigator this uh this afternoon. So, I'm optimistic and I have a question for Matt. Um, I don't know if this is possible at all, but the city has intergovernment intergovernmental agreements, right? >> Well, I depends with who, but yes, we we do [laughter] >> not with every government. Well, I'm just wondering if um >> if it's possible that maybe we might be able to work out something that would be that we could kind of formalize between the um the county workforce services and the city. And I don't know what that is exactly, but I'm talking about some sort of service oriented towards seniors. I'll get back to you or on that. >> We certainly have intergovernmental agreements with with Boulder County. Mhm. >> I presume we have them with B County on certain things too. Um >> specifically for seniors. >> Uh no, no, no. I'm just saying we we have IGA in general with with respect to counties. >> Uh what depending on what the goal or objective would be here that would dictate kind of whether that's the appropriate mechanism or whether there'd be other ways to achieve it. But let me know what you really have in mind. Yeah, I I don't know exactly what I got in mind just yet, but maybe um maybe we might have something we could work out. So anyway, I'm I'm optimistic that maybe we could try something new and see what happens. >> What I find interesting is that you've had conversations with Boulder Workforce, but this navigator position, which sound pretty critical to people looking for work, just got >> Yeah. >> just surfaced after how long you've been talking to them? A year, year and a half. It just points to what's out there that you just got to keep asking the question to find out where the answer is. >> Great. >> I'm looking forward to hearing what your results are. >> Uh flipping back to the job fair. Um you in the packet is uh the email I sent to Scott Cook who's president of the chamber. Um I'm going to reach back out to Scott. He did agree to send a flyer to the chamber members. It's and and the and the job here is going to be in their newsletter. So my hope is is maybe some of the chamber folks might want to go ahead and participate based on that with that e- newswsletter. >> That's great. One of the interesting things that I sent that chamber meeting list around there are 700 businesses that are members of the chamber representing 25,000 employees here in Longmont. So, anything you can do to get in front of them, come to the meetings, especially one here is October 9th, I think, uh, for meals on at Meals on Wheels. The morning ones are great. They're they're pretty informal. Where the ask me button, I think they'll probably ask. And also, you're that you participate here, but let's make a presence note if we can. October 9th, I believe, here. >> Yeah. The last thing I want to say was Ronnie had sent me an email on ARP, the AP Foundation. >> [cough] >> So I had a chance to look a little bit through their links. So they AP foundation offers a lot of resources for seniors in a lot of different areas, right? Housing, but but employment is >> that's good to know and that's good for the prime people to know and learn about how they can sign up and be part of that. >> Yeah. So, um, one of the things that I'd asked John Higgins, um, I wish Christina is still here, is whether we've had the AP or AARP Foundation ever make a presentation to the senior side, and I'm not aware of that ever taking place. So, it's something that I may follow up with Lonnie on that. >> I I'll take a look too and see because I we talked I know there's volunteers here. >> Yeah, >> I think >> so. ARP. So ARP you would ask but they do have an office actually in Denver. AP of Colorado is has an office in Denver. AERP Foundation. This is the one is actually tied in with the SCP which is the federal organization that provides some level assistance to u people. You know you're aware of that, right? So they they they link in with with the workforce as well. And so it could be um in the Latino community where they need language skills, right? Um SC can provide some of that funding for that. They also provide funding for employers that are maybe weary about hiring a senior because there's an upfront cost in training and SC will >> [snorts] >> um provide that funding for certain >> be like a job coach with that individual. >> Well, they'll actually provide funding to the employer >> for any training that's required to get them up to speed to be able to perform that job. [snorts] So anyway, I'm going to see if if um if I can contact AP and I think it'd be good maybe even just with this organization, just with this board and maybe with friends just so we understand more rather than getting them I'd like to maybe look at getting them in the go magazine and getting an [snorts] actual presentation that anybody in senior center can attend. But I think maybe before that if they can come and do a presentation for us. I'll check final test. >> Become volunteers for the little work that we don't have yet. [laughter] >> No more volunteering. Thank you. >> Okay. Board advocacy. Dave. >> Um I don't really have too much. You I most of what I had to say I put in the report. I do want to say uh emphasize something I think I had in the last paragraph. I contacted Lynn Y about the status of the um uh the survey and apparently it's going quite well. It said uh she said that they had some 3,000 responses so far. I I would like everybody to think about the kind of information you think we we might be able to pull out of it that might be useful. You know, for example, uh there are individual questions about finding employment, you know, what kind of employment, if they're employed, that sort of thing, and uh whether they pay for utilities and that sort of thing. And thing a question specifically about mental health and substance abuse. Now, I'm not saying that that's any greater need than anything else. I'm just using it as an example. But there's also they collected information on demographic information. So they will give us an average of I I'm assuming I I haven't confirmed this but I assume we will get an average of how many people say there's a mental health issue. How many people have a what their income level is or what their educational level is. But we can combine things. For example, we could say how many we could combine and say minority versus non-minority and see what percentage of each group say they need mental health or addiction help and see if there's a difference there. And so think about that sort of thing. That's again that's just an example, but you might want to look through the survey again. What is it that what information is in there that might be useful to us? >> That's about all I had to add. >> Okay. Thank you, >> Eric. Table >> because we were in conflict with the peach festival last >> uh time we did the the food distribution. Our numbers were low were lower than we had about 54 individuals and about 30 members served. Um but coming up I expected we'll see a lot more people get back to the original. >> And how many people want to volunteer this time? The usual. >> The usual. >> Raise your hand. >> And the It's the >> 12th. >> Okay. When's the It's the November one. That's >> the November one that is changing to the first Saturday, >> right? The uh Native American Heritage Day is the the second Saturday. So November will be the first Saturday. So we'll get something posted here, get some information out to people. >> December saying the same. >> I just want to say um when the people are when we're bagging their groceries, we started asking them when we have time, especially if it's somebody who hadn't um had missed, why did you miss, you know, we missed you or whatever. And we are getting a lot of reports about transportation and also that some of them are reporting there are some uh senior housing areas that they need transportation if they were to get come there and we were talking to them about that and uh Susie was there for part of it and they talked about transportation. um would it be helpful if they could send a bus or something? And they of course couldn't speak for everybody there, but they were saying yeah and have designated shoppers come and um so that is coming up and um that you know might have stimulated some of the questions from the because Susie was there talking to part of it. Yeah, that that came up >> about it. And Arlene has a list, I believe, of those housing uh senior housing that are not don't have transportation. So, whoever could get with her, maybe she still has it. >> Yeah, transportation came up in the city council. It came up. We started looking at the food table because this very issue >> that people can't get here and you've mentioned it too. >> So, it's there. we can start talking about now that we have some statistics. >> Yeah, >> we have four vans that sit here most of the time on weekends. We started with that. The only feedback we got is tell us what you're talking about. How many people whereabouts so it's there and I think it's great the city council brought it up and we'll talk to Ronnie about the rest is aware of it as well. And um so I I thought everybody was getting the information, but I'll I'll start taking notes. >> Well, if you [laughter] look at the if you look at the area agency report that came out last, they talk about food deserts. Actually, no, it's a Boulder County health index, it actually look at the GIS and they lay out food deserts around the city. >> So, we'll try and tie that back to the transportation issues. We'll keep we'll keep bringing it up, see what we can get. >> Okay. >> Good. Thank you. >> Are we have are we having or there is going to be uh delivery of the groceries that people cannot come because they don't drive? They don't have the vacation. >> Are you asking me or you asking >> whoever >> because he's talking I'm going to send a list so we could jot down who was that person, where did they live and they were going to start delivering on certain date. Is that going to happen or is not happening or >> I'm not aware of that. I mean, like I said earlier, the the food drive on Tuesdays at Westview, >> there's a process for that through Naomi, >> but I think your question is specific to the Saturdays once a month here >> and I'm I'm not aware of any. >> We don't have >> I'm not either, but I think it's I think it's a good point. We >> are going to do it. I thought it was mentioned at one time if you have some people that can't come take down the lift or who is that and and I think um the other lady would that was going to be with Naomi that was going to be >> Jenny. >> Yeah, I think she was going to start getting volunteers, you know, to be able to do that. >> Okay. >> But I don't know where it's at. >> Talking about it. [clears throat] >> We'll we'll we'll check with Naomi and see what that I mean, they have a lot on their plate, but I know it's come up before because people who can't make the food table or can't go to the community locations when they're uping when they're happening. We'll check and see. I know that they have a program now for people that John and I deliver for who won't come out because of other concerns. So, that's four or five families, but there are others. We we'll ask we'll let you know next time. Lonnie, >> I do remember that there was a woman at the um last food table who was talking about the fact that she goes and delivers to people in their homes. She's linked with the Long Mount Food Rescue. So, you can find out information there if there's anybody. >> She probably one that Naomi brought in. And Jenny, Jenny did ask, >> last time I talked to Jenny, your name came up, but she did say something >> you providing her with a couple. She I think she said I think Martha said there was some additional families that she wanted to give over to me. Do you have a way to reach Jenny? >> Jenny? >> No. No. I have to go through Naomi. >> I'll give you I would have to >> I'll give you her I'll give you her number. >> I don't think I've got her number. >> I'll give it to you. >> Okay. And I guess where we're going around and okay, I'll say that I don't have a report, but then >> you were up next. >> I don't have a report per se. We're still going to meet those of you that are interested in what I'm hearing also in the volunteer those people that are out there to be in the committee so they can serve, you know, some of the needs that we have like the deliver food or helping out getting involved. The Hispanic population that we have getting them, hey, you come to the food, you come to certain things, but you're not coming to everything kind of encourage that you need to come to the programs that are especially the mediation because needed. So trying to get them and the people that we hear outside what is going on, some of them, some of them are able to volunteer in different things that we need to assign like a death prescription. Okay, we need help for this, help for that or whatever or what not. So, there's that's where I'm trying to do that outreach and my involvement in outside in the community with the Lin area Democrats, both Democrats and some of the seniors is knowing getting people to register to vote the importance and the know your rights. It's not all you can't use it, but you know somebody. It is really becoming very important for people to know about the know your rights and what is it that they can do. They might not need it but they sure know somebody that can use that information. I think it's very crucial that we know about what's going on. I have a lawyer uh Ian McKinley that lives here in Long has his office here in Long and would be willing to come and give us a little presentation about immigration about lawyer rights so we can understand and know what is going on other than what we hear in the news. I think it's important that we are aware of and that's my involvement also outside in the community. Well, you're you're officially on our list. That's a preview. So, you got to next time. We look forward to your report. All right. >> Thank you, Lonnie. >> I wonder if it would be um beneficial to have this lawyer come and speak in an open forum here at the senior center that anybody can attend. >> He I just have to tell him when where and he lives here in Long Ian McKinley. I don't know. He's on He's on Main Street. >> Great guy. >> Walk by there all the time. Really great. >> You might see if he might see if he wants to put something on in the go. >> Whenever they >> You might want to put them in the go on the go. The next go that comes out. >> Have something here available to people. >> We'll talk about it. >> But I think it would be nice to have an open forum here. >> I agree. >> To just include people, invite people, whoever wants to come. Okay, >> I'm pretty sure even the angle population has knowledge or has heard or knows a family or somebody that you know so they can get educated, understand and they have questions and then to be asked >> Marks are are you plugged into indivisible >> through the Longmont area? >> Invisible and invisible I don't send you an email. So, Indivisible is an organization um that um promotes a lot of things, but one of the things they're working on is election integrity, right? >> And there's an election integrity 101201. There's some slides associated with it. I couldn't attend the first one, but I I was zoomed in on the second one and they sent me an email that has a bunch of different slides and materials. A lot of it pertains to what you're talking about. Um, I could send that. Um, I guess due to the sunshine laws, maybe I'll send that to Ronnie and he can forward that, >> distribute it. >> Yeah. >> All right. Um, any open discussion items? May I suggest for the free food table that like the our center market there's a little pointy thing with a stack of numbers and you pick a number as you come in. So you're in that order. You just pick it out and you take they have a list of all the things that you want to get like diapers for your kids and stuff or vegan or whatever but we don't need that. But just to be able to have a thing right as the as you come in the door where people just take a number and then they can sit down and they don't have to stand in that line for hours. A lot of people can't stand that line. [clears throat] They already doing that. >> I thought they handed out the number. Somebody went around handed out when they get their basket off with >> I don't like it that way. That's just me. >> Send them to the >> I just like the way the marketplace at the hour center does it. They just it's easier. You just there's a number at the front of the door when you enter and you take it. You're not hand it to it. You don't have to talk to anybody. You don't have to worry who's going around. So, it was so confusing the last time I was there. >> Coming later, and we can ask them how many, you know, how many they'll be shopping for, things like that. So, >> yeah, Lommont Food Rescue's got this laid out. We just follow their directives on that. So, >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> All right, >> John. I want to >> And we use we reuse the numbers. They're not, you know, they don't just >> that's what they do too. >> They're thrown out. >> I want to bring out something >> follow up kind of to my initial question to Matthew about the city council, but we need to be I think we need to be at least open to this possibility that um there will be either no or there there will be problems with mail ballots. every the various things that I'm reading the the US postal service is is currently working on a directive that if um there's currently an injunction against it but there are some folks indivisible um reputable folks this is not just some conspiracy thing that there could be some major problems with mail ballots of which Colorado relies on right and senior citizens rely on. So if if that happens, um there we might need to work on a a means by which we can get senior citizens to a to an actual polling place because if they can't get their mail and ballot, their only other alternative may be to go to an actual polling place to cast their ballot. >> I'm not saying it's going to happen, but I think we're going to we're going to know literally within a matter of weeks whether some crazyness is going to go on that might. And if that's the case, we might want to think about at least for our senior community, how do we get people that are um unwilling or unable >> to get to a holding place to be able to cast >> I hope we don't get to that point. I mean I mean Colorado no >> really appreciate this concern. Something I've been thinking about as well. I'm going to suggest this is not the appropriate space to discuss this further. send that concern to me or to the city council contact and then we should mind how we do that. I think that might be pushing the boundaries of what at this time without direction from city council to to pursue a concert. >> You got the buses >> Boulder County. I'm >> not saying there are options, but I'm saying that for discussion and effort. >> And I know Marca, you've got other resources that you're plugged into for this as well. So I think the point is take it up with Matthew or the city council >> and I don't want the and I know voting should not be partisan right >> or perceived to be. I don't want to be seen as that city council here as a political body in Longmont and I want us to be the legislative or political >> action. But is it important that voting is a part of it because we want >> Oh, I'm not saying it's not important. I'm just trying to make sure this is channelneled channelneled appropriately. And Matthew, as you know, it's not a partisan issue, right? Because people on both sides of the spectrum, if they can't cast their ballot, I don't really care what they're part of the >> I understand. >> Yeah. It's just I think what >> I'm not trying to >> What you're saying is it the subject falls does not fall under something that the >> advisory board would be you know looking into or getting any involvement. Now if we want to just let people know that there's other agencies, other groups that are taking care of it, then they can lead them, you know, you can lead other people to other directions. But I think is >> the board itself is not something that falls under. >> I think the awareness is key and then just understanding that if there are impacts that would impact any part of our population on how they could access polls [snorts] and cast their votes and exercise their democratic rights. I think that that that should be if there's resources provided or additional services looked at that should be coming from city council, not from this board at this time. >> Yeah. >> Well, it be coming from me. >> It can absolutely come from all of you to me or to city council to be clear. I'm not trying to shut this conversation down. I'm just trying to redirect it appropriately >> to where I think it best belongs. Yeah. >> Understood. >> There you go. >> All right. future agenda items. Just before the uh presentation we made to the council, Harold turned to me and said, "Please contact Erica to get me on your schedule, and I apologize for not being here sooner." So, he is on the 11. He's he's going to be here 11 November 4th. >> I'm sorry. >> Yes. sorry for not getting here in March, April or May, but he was otherwise distracted. >> And for the last few meetings of the year, I'm volunteering some you included some of the peer support people or the volunteers. There are 300 volunteers here at the senior center. I didn't know that >> and there are a lot of groups they represent. So I'm just going to ask some of them to come and make very short presentation about what they do, the population they serve, whatever. So right now we have Lois Ellison and peer support talking about the mental health that's offered here through the senior center. I sort of put Denise on there as the person to talk about trips, but she just found out about that two minutes ago. No, just now actually [laughter] just about the trips and what they do. And also um Rose, I volunteered her. I haven't told her yet, so don't say anything. But I want people to hear about what happens as far as the number of visitors we have and what have you like to talk about the C programs other things just so we know who are those 300 volunteers besides this group here and what they do. So just to let you know that's going to be part of the short presentation that's coming up the rest of the year >> is that can we put them all on one at one meeting? >> Um make it like a volunteer meeting. >> We could talk about that. My my my thought was >> be a lot of people. >> Yeah, be a lot. Let me I want to find out what what that group is because I don't know the who what 300 people here do. So, I'm just starting with the ones I know of. We'll start seeing and if it's something you all want to do, we can do a meeting or whatever. Maybe first of the year, whatever. So, yes, but I wanted to I'm interested in hearing what what these 300 people do, what other groups they represent. So, start there. Um that's it. Outreach, Lonnie. Oh, >> yeah. Donna, >> I I want to talk about the food cart. >> Oh, please. >> Okay. Yeah. Uh there are a couple of updates. One is that we've added another cart that doesn't change the footprint of the food carts. So, we now have three with the top shelf of the third one being the donation bin for people. >> And there are going to be a couple of of new donation opportunities. uh the friends and I'm hoping that the senior advisory board will will come along with us uh are going to uh partner with food rescue at the end of September uh to do a food drive that's going to be at the uh Kings I wanted to say I wanted to say a Texas store I don't know why but um King Supers on Hover on the 2, let's see, it's the 26th and 27th of September. I have a potential volunteer sheet. All I need right now is that you're considering it. You're you're positively inclined. Uh when Naomi is out of town right now, and when she gets back, uh she and I will work out all the details. Food Rescue is going to be doing the the uh social media and advertising and stuff like that. What we will be doing is providing volunteers. A and the blocks will be on a Saturday from 10 to 2. Sunday it'll be from 1 to 5. And what I'm looking for are people who are willing to donate two hours of time. So from 10 to 12, 12 to 2 kind of thing on Saturday, whatever. But I have a sheet here. So, if you'll give me your name, your email, phone number, I can get back to you with the details and then get a more solid commitment. So, if I could start with Eric, is that okay? Start with you. Pass it down and give me that information. I greatly appreciate it. The other food donation opportunity is going to be in December [clears throat] where the friends of the Longmont Senior Center are going to be sponsoring the deck the halls in which people uh groups within volunteer groups within the senior center have traditionally uh decorated a tree and those of you who have come to the senior center you're you're aware of it and people uh vote on their favorite tree by bringing food. All of that food's going to be donated to the food carts and to the food table. So, it'll be, you know, entrenew here. It's going to be where we're going to be collecting it. And uh there are some opportunities to have additional groups uh come in to uh bring a tree and increase it. And I'm going to be talking to the board also about having an afternoon of cocoa and cookies and maybe some music and a tour, >> you know, so people can tour around and see the trees because it's really very festive here with all those trees here throughout and and they're all different and they're all unique and whatever. So, um, there are that kind of those opportunities coming up to bring in food. With that third food cart, going back to the third food cart, we're now up to approximately 50 pounds of food a day being flowing through that food cart. So, uh, you know, having these food drives is extremely important to the sustainability of what we're we're trying to do and and feeding the senior citizens who are extremely grateful. I get so many people and I know Denise does too. People just thanking us for having the snacks, having the drinks, having the canned goods that are that are available so they can supplement their and and people like Lonnie who donated a mass quantity of food which is all gone by now. Even it's way gone. It's way gone. This morning when I came to service the food cart before uh this program uh somebody had left about a dozen cans of Chef Boyardd which is very welcome. I left a few on there. I'm going to take some home and I'll just bring I bring them out. you know, we we do four or five cans out there of that and then we have tuna and chicken and and other soups and stews and, you know, a variety of things so that people have choices about what they what they have. So, and Dave asked about donations. We're short of canned fruit right now and canned vegetables are always welcome with the exception, you've heard this, with the exception of black >> black beans. Got it. [laughter] >> We've got plenty of black beans. They're not popular, but green beans, corn, and peas, uh pinto beans in particular, those those things are all extremely popular and necessary. Uh uh stewed tomatoes, stuff like that. Also on those envelopes, um, the friends of the Longmont Senior Center board voted to make the food cart something you can donate money to. >> So that changed last month. >> Um, so there is a place that you can check that off on that envelope. >> You can put the >> card on the for the store at our church. They have gift certificates and they sell them from super uh sorry da da da cards that they buy and they those cards they can be used and put them in that box. No. [snorts] >> Yeah, they can. >> You know the nice thing about this food table food carts really taken off. Started in January 50 pounds a day. Um, and the friends just allowed that in the new donation that we could donate directly money to the food carts. They just made that change and I want to thank the friends for doing that spec and particularly Denise and Donna for restocking that every day Monday through Friday. >> It's a big job. The last meeting we had, they stocked it at 9:00. I went out there at 12. It was all gone. So, there's a growing need for that. So, >> kudos to you guys. I would also make a recommendation if you don't do it already. If you put out anything about it, list some things, recommendations for what is needed. >> Yes. >> So that it gives people an idea. Sometimes people will say, "Well, I want to donate, but I don't know exactly what you need." >> So if you just give them a recommendation. >> Yeah. Absolutely. >> You'll figure it out. >> Yeah. And it varies. See, it depends. because sometimes uh uh especially after I also go to the Westview Church on Wednesdays after the second Tuesday. I go the second Wednesday and pick up and if they have fresh things that are longlasting like apples and oranges and things like I can pick those up and sometimes I can pick up some eggs or or soups and get them out immediately and and that sort of thing. But most of the time it it's the canned goods that but canned vegetables of everything except black beans and um >> and canned fruit. >> They are healthy. >> They're they're extremely healthy. They're they're wonderful. But but the population here and in and the senior center know if there's anything left over in the cart that's canned, it's the black beans. So, >> so two two last things. One is thanks for those who signed up on this. I'll send out through Ronnie reminder when these are happening on the 9th and on well the 11th of September the 9th of October 13th of November. I'll send it out. Also, Brandy has given us Kensington Neighborhood Association advice the advisory board to share our services. also the friends at the upcoming annual meeting on Saturday, September 26th from 10:30 to 12. They're inviting us to come and talk about the advisory board and about the friends. I'll send this out to you all also and also the the friends board just to talk about ask me appropriate where your ask me button so we talk about what we do here. >> Nick is what do you want? >> Yeah. So I was walking around the the community. Somebody said, "Ask you about what?" Well, excuse me. Asking about the senior center. Okay. So, it's a it's a nice catchy little thing, but I'll send those both out to you. Anything else before we ask for an adjournment? >> Outreach. Outreach, >> please. Yes. Sorry. >> Um Christine actually gave me this about the Kensington Neighborhood Association. So, just to reiterate, it's the annual meeting they're having on a Saturday, September 26 from 10:30 to 12 >> and they're having it at the neighborhood new amphitheater in Kensington Park. It is located on the south side of Long Peak Avenue between Martin Street and Lashley. Okay. Um, we specifically reaching out to your organization because [clears throat] our neighborhood includes a high percentage of seniors living in aging housing, lowincome house of households and non-speaking uh, non English speakers. So, we could use your guys support there, too. Your resources could greatly benefit our residents and we want to help spread the word. Um, I can send this to everybody and just so you have it physically to look at, but I [clears throat] think it would be nice. Um, we're welcome to go for the duration or part of it. Um, we need to bring our own food folding table and chairs. Free food will be provided to all attendees and partners. And weather policy, if the weather is terrible, you do not need to show up. [laughter] basically have 25 residents attend our indoor meeting last year and we expect a significant significantly large turnout this year. So what we're going to do is just basically go and show up and I'll get um the information again about um the bullet points that I used when we were at Aspen Meadows. >> Um >> the Aspen Meadows meeting was really it was great. Marta and Maria came with me and we jumped in. >> Yeah. >> Really? What a surprise. >> What they spoke about which it there were no speak Spanish speaking people there but what they spoke about was the integrated events that go on here where you know people can join in and the advantage of it and the you know the things that they could get out of attending these things these activities. um with both Spanish speaking and English speaking um residents. So they were able to bring that out and that I really thought that got a lot of attention, you know. Um I know myself in thinking about it, I'm thinking I could probably learn Spanish doing that >> and it Spanish. Um but we went through a lot of things with them. What I took away from this and then I'll ask these guys to speak was there are activity or there are questions they had that didn't relate to the senior center but related to transportation and related to other things that go on in the city and I think that's part of our responsibility to get that information out to people. So what I did is I contacted all of the people at um involved in the transportation RTD um via and ride along V is actually coming to Village on Main for our meeting tomorrow, our monthly community meeting to give a presentation. So whatever I can get from them as far as literature and drop it off back over here at the senior center if you guys need it, I'll do that. Um, but what I'm going to do is I put together I've done this for a couple of years. I put together a new resident booklet and all the flyers that we get from all the different organizations go in this booklet and it just gives people they get a little um table of contents. They get to look at all the things that are included. Um, we do a new resident packet with information on when can you do laundry and what are the rules about this and you know how does this work and just all those things that new residents don't know about. So we put that together. Um Hannah who was at Aspen Meadows um she was manager she was very interested in anything I could give her. So I'm getting her a booklet and then she if she wants to copy those and redo her own for her place she can do it. Um, and I'm going to be anytime I'm speaking at any of the LHA properties, I'm going to be leaving with them everything that I have in this booklet. So, I just think it's comprehensive and it's a good way to start with any questions that might get asked, but I'm putting together a list of food pantries in Longmont. I don't think there's actually a list of all the places that offer food. So, I'm doing that. And then between the transportation clarification, the food pantry clarification, it got me thinking that there are more things that we can do as far as clarify things for people and get them the questions, the answers to the questions. So, does anybody have any questions about that? >> We have a little list that Naomi has for the different areas if we should take one of those. >> Oh, yeah. I have that. We we have, >> but I'm including all of them. All the churches, everything, all the food that pantries available in the city. >> You got the del You got the uh Longmont food rescue, the ones they do at Collier Park, etc. >> Oh, I have all that. >> Okay, good. >> I mean, this is like there's a lot out there. >> Well, bring that to the Kensington >> people of hope, all that sort of thing. So, I'm going to put it all together and I'll get I'll send you a copy. Um, Bianca, if you wanna, you know, update any food pantry brochure, you know, or flyer that you have, if the ones you have, I'm >> any of the ones we have are probably accessible in the >> the nook. >> That's what I'm going to see. Yeah, >> I'm going to use that one, too. And then if I add to it, I'll get you the new one, and you can use that if you want. Doesn't matter. Okay. >> Great. >> Um, so yeah. So, it just made me realize that there are things going on out there that we can help out even if it doesn't have to do with people coming to the senior center, you know, it's just actual helping, assisting all that. So yeah, one of them that that here we go the transportation of them having to go to Lafayette to register and we said no no asked Lonnie she said she was going to check in why don't they come here to senior center so they can register people instead of expecting them to drive or they can't transport you by the bus they can take them over there so they need to do that outreach and come here and register people here at the senior center once a month twice or whatever. They need to do that. And and L said they don't do that. You need to know who to contact so they can come. >> Here's Oh, go ahead. >> Accessoride makes you in order to qualify for accessoride with RTD, you have to go to 38th New York Street. That's where their location is. >> 38th in New York is Denver. >> Even worse. So I remember when I did it when I after I had my operation and stuff I um I had to go to Lakewood. So what they do is that's where they clarify everything. They will come and pick you up. They will drop you up. They'll provide the transportation to get there. When I spoke to them and asked them if there was any way they would do a meeting like once a month here at the senior center or even once a quarter or anything like that, they said, "We do not do that. It's not what we do. We provide transportation to people, but we will not we don't have the staff. We don't have the, you know, the means of bringing everything to another location and taking care of everything we need to take care of. So, unfortunately, we we found out that's not going to be a big thing. I'm still gonna get in touch with the the people who are in charge and see if that is something that we could look at the future of getting that done. But it that's not going to work right now. But I see they don't have to bring their own equipment. They bring whatever they know what they're doing so they can register people and then they put it in their system. It it's unexcusable to me. I'm sorry. I don't >> Well, let's do this. Lonnie, could you see if they could do a Zoom meeting, something like that? That wouldn't take much staff time. Could you check >> asking for that just maybe because you have to sign everything, >> right? Let's see. Let's see if there's something, >> you know, >> there's some way you can accommodate people. Yeah, >> but they do have individual appointments. So, they need to be able to, you know, they set up their appointments for individual does take over an hour. It's an involved thing. And uh yeah, they said they just didn't have the capability of of moving that to another location. >> Well, let's see if if Zoom might work and do it here. >> Okay. >> Anything else? >> I can ask them that. Uh no, that's it. >> All right. Motion to adjurnn. >> Oh, that was quick. Thank you. [laughter] >> Now that's that's the way to do it.