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Ryan Hall: Value of Competition | Take It Uneasy Podcast

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In this episode of Take It Uneasy, Ryan Hall explores the profound value of competition for martial artists and athletes alike. He argues that while winning a title like an ADCC gold medal might bring temporary glory, true success is defined by real-world self-defense capabilities rather than trophies alone. Competition serves as a crucible that teaches the authentic purpose of martial arts: effective defense in life's unpredictable scenarios. Hall emphasizes that when approached correctly with proper focus and dedication, competition forces individuals to improve because strong opposition highlights areas for growth. He contrasts this serious approach with "cowardly" attitudes where participants half-ass their preparation or seek excuses after a loss, noting that such behavior yields hollow results regardless of the outcome. Hall stresses that honest self-analysis is critical in high-level environments like tournaments, where everyone is fully prepared and there are no easy outs to hide behind. He draws inspiration from Frank Herbert's *Dune*, specifically the concept that searching for freedom often leads to slavery by one's own desires, whereas seeking discipline grants true liberty. This philosophy applies universally across parenting, military service, business, and athletics; those who make immense commitments demonstrate a level of dedication that commands respect even if they do not achieve top-tier results like gold medals. The moral victory comes from mastering one's mind and body through the rigorous process of denying oneself distractions to pursue valuable goals, proving that success is reserved for those willing to pay its price. The discussion highlights how true hard work involves more than just showing up; it requires constant reassessment, re-evaluation, and listening to honest feedback from respected peers rather than dismissing criticism due to ego bias. Hall points out the reality that longevity in a sport does not guarantee skill, citing examples of jiu-jitsu practitioners who have trained for fifteen years yet perform poorly compared to those with only four years of experience but superior focus and direction. This distinction underscores that ability is rarely accidental; it stems from an unwavering commitment to improvement and the courage to confront uncomfortable truths about one's performance. Ryan Hall also admires late-career success stories like Randy Couture and Rick H, who started their MMA careers in their thirties but reached elite levels due to their dedication and understanding of focus. These individuals exemplify how deep work ethic transcends age or initial skill gaps, making them dangerous opponents not just because of specific techniques like Judo or wrestling, but because they possess a level of mental fortitude most cannot comprehend. Hall concludes that while the process of looking inward objectively can be painful as it reveals flaws and drives some to become "neurotic," this brutal honesty is essential for high achievement. Ultimately, he asserts that there is an inverse relationship between being well-adjusted by normal standards and becoming a top achiever; those who push themselves to higher levels often sacrifice comfort and social ease in pursuit of excellence.
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you have been both a supporter and a Critic of competition um what do you think is the value of competition for a martial artist um I believe that the value competition is in that it teaches you the true purpose of martial arts and and and again the true purpose of martial arts is being able to defend yourself and whatnot and all of these other things in real life yes because you let's say you win the ADCC gold medal but you know you get slapped around by someone bigger and stronger than you at a bar that people will talk about how sweet that gold medal is but for the rest of your life it'll feel pretty Hollow that wouldn't you know not what we're looking for but what I'm talking about I guess is what I believe competition develops if approach properly is proper Focus proper dedication because anytime you have a very defined goal and strong opposition it will force you to be better period the better your opposition is if you focus and you take your what you're doing seriously the better you become period people are better wrestlers today than they once were people are better basketball players today than they once were military is better now than it was in the past because of all of the competition that you know that has existed over the course of time and and you know if you go out competition if you go out and just kind of it if you're like oh I'm going to go out and see how it happens like that's a cowardly way to approach competition and that that gets you nothing that doesn't teach you to really do the right things and the same thing not not properly preparing even if you win that was a cowardly way to approach it because you intentionally left yourself an out which was if I win oh man I'm talented and blahy blah and if I lose it's well you know I mean I I could have I didn't really train that hard well if that's the case then you shouldn't have been out there Win Lose or Draw I don't care if I've got a student that I think is going to win win gold at the World Championships if he or she does not train properly ahead of time I will not allow them to go and if they go I will send them off the team you know and hey they can do what they want they're a grown adult I'm not the boss of them but I am the boss of my team I'm the boss of my gym and that's not how we conduct ourselves and it has way less to do about the physical you know the result than it does about the proper preparation because proper preparation and proper focus and dedication over the Long Haul yields positive results but most importantly it's about are we conducting ourselves in in a in an honorable and respectable manner so I believe that competition really teaches us that because in the room you know there's always like oh it was practice oh I was kind of this to that happened today the other thing when you go to competition everyone is that's on everyone is on that day because everyone is trained for that specific moment and we'll see what happens so you get the most honesty out of a out of a time like that and the higher the level the better it gets in you know provided that there's not a lot of cheating but regardless you know from an athletic performance perspective it is the most honest thing because and it's the it's the toughest as well because it takes it takes courage and it takes some heart to really properly prepare and put it on the line because you're risking horrible disappointment i' I've prepared so hard before and tried so hard and I've won and I've prepared other times and I've tried so hard and I've failed and it hurts it really hurts it doesn't hurt nearly as much if you kind of half ass it because you didn't put that much into it but again that's how a coward approaches things if you have if if you're going to conduct yourself the right way you prepare properly you train hard and then Win Lose or Draw you deal with the results and that's what I believe is the real benefit of compet comptition if approached properly do you admire somebody who sacrifices you know like 10 20 years um of their life in that singular pursuit of competition towards a gold medal at the Olympics say which is most of the Olympians do goodness absolutely I mean I admire anyone that's willing to sacrifice and willing to work hard in any area of life actually a book that I'm reading again that I really really like is U Dune it's uh I don't know it's I'm kind of like sci-fi nerding out on everybody but basically you know one of the things that you know one of the one of the you know things that the the author was gu named Frank Herbert and it's widely regarded as one of the you know greatest science fiction novels ever if not the preeminent but anyway one of the things you said you know is if you if you search for Freedom you actually end up becoming a slave to your own desires ironically and if you search for discipline you find Liberty because you're able to make yourself do what you want in the long run whereas if I'm like oh I'm going to do whatever I want all the time and and screw you dad I'm going to do what I want and that's kind of like a teenager type attitude you end up getting into a bunch of nonsense but anyone that's able and again this doesn't matter it doesn't mean that it's athletic it could be in any area of human endeavor any area of life it could be parenting it could be military it could be Athletics it could be business it could be school it could be anything but if as long as you're making you know an incredibly large commitment I have an immense amount of respect for the for the level of dedication and the level of of commitment and the level of of risk that that you're taking emotionally psychologically because hey like you said you work 20 years you get that gold medal but there's other people that work 20 years and got the silver most people most metal now most people most people that think they work hard don't I'll be frank you know like seriously I said that in class the other day like again it's like I don't want to be too negative but most the people most people that think they work hard do not how do you know that if you're working hard or not I think you know but most people are not very honest with themselves they most people would press a button in my experience you know they would prefer to be look like the thing than be the thing right and you know that's that's fine but it really I can't I think Sun Su said it it's like Victory is reserved for those willing to pay its price and there is a price and now that doesn't guarantee that if you pay the price that you will have Victory but you guarantee but I mean from a physical perspective but you will have the moral Victory regardless because you will have you will have learned discipline you will have shown not only to others forget others you do it not for others but for yourself you you show that you are the master of your own mind and of your own body and of your own circumstance and you can discipline yourself and focus and you deny yourself certain things in the pursuit of something something that is valuable to you and that is incredibly useful in any area of life and that's I mean not shocking to me why the same reason that you'll see guys that were you know like high level military like kind of big dogs in SF World get hired by let's say for instance a Fortune 500 company cuz what would they know about business nothing but also everything because that level of focus and dedic like you don't get to that level of ability in something by accident and that's what I think you know like again the value of competition and what they do competition only it's as serious as it gets you know because if you don't get the gold medal uh you may not you may not walk out of it but basically um I have an immense amount of respect for anyone that that is willing and able to over the Long Haul put that time in but I have to trying hard doesn't mean just getting on an airdine bike and walking off the mat or having to be carried off the mat it means thinking approaching reassessing re-evaluating saying how could I be better and it takes honest honest self-analysis and and also it takes a lot of times because let's say you know I think I'm doing well but I have to say hey Lex you know I mean no matter how how well I believe I look at myself I'm still biased I'm I'm still looking at myself what should I be doing better I'm going to find other people that I respect and people that I think can tell me and I'm going to ask them and then I'm going to have the courage to listen to them and not just dismiss what they're saying out of hand and if you're doing those things then I believe that a lot of times you're working hard but I know plenty of people that come in it's just like in jiujitsu there's plenty of people that have been training for 15 years that frankly suck and there's plenty of people that have been training for four that are pretty dang good you know for and again are they the best person that's been training for four years is still compared to like Cina not that good but they could be really really really good because they understand how to be directed and how to focus and I believe this is something I've discussed you know before with with some other you know friends of mine you know that some of whom are at a very high level of MMA others that are at a high level of Juds wrestling or whatever um look at guys like Randy Couture guys like Rick H they're on their second career they started MMA when they were like 32 and yet they got to the top maybe they weren't always Champion but they were freaking good why because their 26y old self would be scary but you know like hey um they know what it is to be dedicated and work hard and because again they're Olympians like you said on on a level that a regular person has no concept of so I think that that is ultimately the skill it's not the oh man this person's dangerous because he's got good Judo or good wrestling no this person is dangerous because he or she knows how to work their ass off and be focused on a on a level that most people can't comprehend and that's what produces success in any area of life in my opinion yeah and be brutally honest with yourself at all times and it's things sometimes you know I think it's like the price of of of looking inward you know objectively is that you're not going to like what you see a lot you know and cuz even if you're like oh man I'm 90% the way I want to be it's like if you are going to take that next step in my opinion it's you're going to focus on the 10% cuz it's like oh man we're doing a lot of things good yeah who gives a let's talk about what we need to improve on you know and that's a little bit less fun but in the long run I think uh it's what's it's what's going to drive you to a higher level but at the same time I think it's what makes a lot of people that are like that a little bit neurotic and nutty by compar by a normal standard right but again you show me someone that's super well adjusted and I'll show you someone that's probably not a high achiever e