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Roscoe Dash opens up about a significant career setback caused by a poor business deal that he later describes as a "bad deal." He explains that the situation was not an isolated incident but rather a common pattern among many artists who fail to understand the intricacies of contracts before signing them. The conversation reveals that Roscoe felt misled during negotiations, noting that his counterpart acted aggressively and even brought a weapon to their meeting, which escalated the tension. Despite the initial shock and the feeling of being taken advantage of, Roscoe reflects on how these experiences are part of a broader lesson about maturity and understanding the true cost of agreements in the music industry.
The artist delves into his personal journey, recounting how he started rapping at a young age while also excelling in football and basketball before realizing that rap was his true calling. He admits to making hasty decisions early in his career because he was often alone, with his mother away dealing with financial struggles, which left him vulnerable to bad advice and rushed contracts. Roscoe attributes some of these mistakes to a lack of patience, explaining that he tried to force outcomes rather than allowing time for things to unfold naturally. He emphasizes that signing such deals without fully grasping the terms was a critical error that set his career back significantly, forcing him to wait years just to regain control of his own music and rights.
Beyond the business aspects, Roscoe is candid about the severe emotional toll the situation took on him, admitting to periods of deep depression where he seriously considered quitting his career. He contrasts his current struggles with the stability enjoyed by many peers who have trust funds and established support systems, expressing frustration that his livelihood is being held hostage by legal entanglements while he ages and sees his children grow up without the financial security he worked so hard to build. Despite these hardships, he maintains a resilient outlook, stating that he has learned from his mistakes and is now focused on moving forward with faith, acknowledging that God plays a central role in guiding him through these turbulent times. Ultimately, Roscoe's story serves as a cautionary tale about the importance of education, patience, and trusting one's instincts when navigating the complex world of music business deals.
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So, you not by yourself. Your story is
every most of every of these all these
artists stories not understanding
business up front. So, why did you And
he he said, you know, he said you was a
little, you know, gangster on it. You
know, he did say he said you tried to
act all mighty and everything with me.
Yeah, the [ __ ] had his gun on him. I
said, "What? That [ __ ] come to my
spot?" You was on a You was on a You was
on a high like
You was going up.
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>> Now, I'm about to get all the way in
your Kool-Aid, [ __ ] I want to know
the flavor, [ __ ] Like, so when you
first When did you first start like just
rapping? Like, when did you know I can
rap?
>> Uh probably like 8 or 9 years old.
>> still want to play basketball.
>> I played football, too. So, I was just a
outside I was a outside quarterback and
wide receiver and I played tight end. I
played kicker. I played punter. I played
all that.
>> You supposed to be playing all positions
when you trying to You thought you
>> I thought I was going to the league.
Whether this one or that one we going
though.
>> And then Which one were you better at?
>> Probably basketball. Cuz I played
quarterback and I ain't going to lie my
first 2 years playing quarterback I was
getting my bell rung.
>> I know.
>> [laughter]
>> And this is around when Vick was out
there. So, I'm thinking I could Oh my
god. I mean, I've done broke all my
fingers.
>> I already know.
>> Literally.
>> Boy,
one of them games you like you were
going backwards, didn't Every damn time
you catch that ball you going backwards.
That's just horrible. I done did it.
That's why I know. You
>> It's like you wake up in the end zone.
You didn't You don't know how you
crossed the line. You just wake up there
and they like, "Yeah." And you like,
"Oh, okay. I did it."
>> [laughter]
>> I'm cool on that.
>> But, let's let's talk about it, man. So,
you basically end up
Well, you know, I've heard I've You
can't look you up without this boom
thing popping up. Every time I try to
research it
>> [laughter]
>> I say, "Man, I don't want to just say I
don't want to sound like the rest of
these cats, man." But, at the end of the
day you you was talking about that in a
way that it really was a thing that
really hurt, you know, your career. But,
you talk when you look at Nelly, when
you look at all of these people, man,
that get in these deals up front,
everybody took a hit. So, you're not by
yourself. Your story is every most of
every these all these artists' stories,
not understanding business up front. So,
why did you And he he said, you know, he
said you was a little, you know, gangsta
on him. You know, he did say he said you
tried to act all modest in there with
me. Yeah, the [ __ ] had his gun on him.
I said, "What? That [ __ ] come to my
spot? He
He said he used to be IN THE STREETS."
I'M LISTENING AT Y'ALL. SO, YEAH, this
[ __ ] a real gangsta. [laughter] Check
him. He want to do him like Bushido
still some.
>> [laughter]
>> SO, I MEAN, what what what was the deal?
I'm going to I'm going to get off that
horse, but I might as well jump right
into it. Like, what was the deal with
that? I mean, and and have you seen this
guy since he did that? I think he was on
What was that that He was on Bigger
>> Uh Big Facts, I think.
>> No, the other [ __ ]
>> Bigger Rank?
>> No, no, Big Bank. Big Bank Perspective.
And I seen that. That's the only thing
popped out. I said, I'm going to
research it. What the hell Have you seen
him since y'all
>> him since then.
>> Then, do you feel good about it? Like,
you're okay with him?
>> Yeah, that's between him and God.
>> Yeah, cuz you at this age you more
you're more mature.
>> 100%.
>> You done already did jumped them hurdles
and know you you know, made some crazy
mistakes. It wasn't just him, it was
you, too, because anytime a man sell his
hour
>> Ab- absolutely.
>> You know what I'm saying? When you do
all this what you just do You don't know
what you just signed for me.
>> know. Yeah.
>> And I got you on my own contract right
now.
>> Guess what? God
>> We going to work good together.
>> I am.
>> [laughter]
>> So, it's good. I work I work with God
and I'm a
>> So, so so all I'm saying is like like
when that person happened to you, I know
it set you back. It was a major setback
for you know, it was a minor setback for
a major comeback. Like,
what was it that you feel like he done
when you think about it now? I looked at
your interview with the other boy. What
was that? Cam Newton? Like,
what is it that you left out? I'll ask
you like that.
>> Of the story?
>> Yeah, when you thought about the stuff
you said you said you know what after
you heard what he had to say about it.
>> From my perspective or you
>> Yeah, from your perspective.
>> Um
that I took place in that I took part in
I mean, I would say just not like I
think I was so and this is funny because
this is how God move bro. It's just so
wild like you would think you getting
something right like you would think
like because you did all this steering
and driving to like do what you thought
you were supposed to be doing in this
moment to get to the goal that you
wanted to reach right like
>> Right.
>> when it starts happening you like yeah
I'm I made I told you I was going to do
that da da da da you a bad you know what
I'm saying? God going to be like God
sitting back like this like yeah all
right we going to let it unfold for a
little bit longer and then we going to
show you what it really is you know what
I'm saying? So like to me I think it's
moving like that. I think it was just
being hasty. My mom wasn't around that's
like my staple that was my my rock. I
wouldn't do anything without her. She
was in Seattle dealing with some
recession stuff trying to keep her job.
I was in the house by myself.
>> Oh.
>> You know what I'm saying? So like moving
around and trying to get my record
played as I was creating these records
literally in the basement and then
turning around and trying to go get them
played at the club. I didn't know if
even know what going to the real studio
was at that point. I'm just trying to
see if I got if I got what it takes. You
know what I mean? So um I think just
being hasty and just like not taking the
time for God to set the table. You know
what I mean? Or allowing the time for
God to set the table. I was doing too
much steering.
>> Was it a 360 deal?
>> It was a it's probably a 720
>> he know how to do a 360 deal cuz he
don't know he don't I I'm looking at him
at the time he couldn't have been
educated about it either.
>> No, not at all. I think he said that in
one of his interviews actually.
>> Yeah, but okay so so when you look at
what he tied you and he probably I
didn't even know I got him that good.
You know what I'm saying?
>> [laughter]
>> He was
he was doing what everybody doing that
era was doing to everybody else.
>> probably just on the phone talking to
other people like what you do send me
your template of your thing probably
something like that. Now I remember
seeing a lawyer or two like we went to
New York a couple times like as we were
shopping my deals and stuff and I
remember it being a lawyer that was
around that was like he just had like a
weird but again it's God bro. God will
let you feel that like okay you see what
you dealing with it's not my type of
it's not what I set for you. You out
here on your own so keep going out there
in them woods and eventually them wolves
is to come out and they going to get you
bro. It's just what it
>> What it is. But you you said something
that he said different. You said that
the endoscope you they let you off for
something. He said you leaked you leaked
some music.
>> came later.
>> Did you leak some music?
>> Absolutely.
>> [laughter]
>> You tired of waiting on these [ __ ]
>> No, yeah, I'm in the same boat right
now. They're still dealing with the same
admin stuff and guess what? I'm not
going to wait.
>> thing?
>> I'm not waiting, bro.
I'm not waiting.
>> You telling me you dealing with the same
thing?
>> rights right this second, yeah.
It's tied up in a deal. That's the only
reason why I can't get them back. So, I
have to wait for somebody to pay their
tab of what they used my stuff for it
and to get some money and wait for them
to clear that so that I'm even in a
position to be able to negotiate to get
my stuff back.
>> How hard is it when you get into these
situations like that?
>> Man.
>> That you know, cuz I think over it like
they shelved him.
>> Mhm.
>> I'm being real.
>> Yeah, that's what the world going to
think. And they don't care. It's just
like it's it's like any other street
situation. Like we going to let them
think whatever they want to think, but
we know what's going on type of thing.
But yeah, valid. I would I I would
imagine the world would think I fell off
or I
>> I never seen you no more. I'mma be real
with you. When you was on a high end you
I don't I can't say that. OG told me
don't say that no more.
>> Shout out to OG, man.
>> on a high end. That's why I work so
hard.
>> was on a you was on a you was on a high
like
You was going up.
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>> Mhm.
>> So, like like what
Did Did you get depressed?
>> Hell yeah. Plenty
>> That's the part right there people don't
like. Remember we had old boy on here.
>> Plenty of times, yeah.
>> He got depressed. You know exactly what
I'm talking about.
>> How badly of depression did you get?
>> I wanted to quit. Like I was just like
I'm cool. Like I've said that to them
even in in in trying to negotiate and
get my stuff back. Like yo, I'm aging,
bro. I know I look good, but I'm like
I'm moving I'm getting older a little
bit. You know what I mean? So, like and
it's not that I feel like my time is
running out or nothing like that, but
like I got kids that are growing up. My
first daughter that that we just talked
about in high school, she just she
turned 20 next month. She just graduated
high school with honors. Y'all holding
up my money that I could be going to
send her to go do whatever she want to
go do. I got two more right behind them.
You know what I'm saying? And I want to
have some more kids. You know what I
mean? So like y'all playing with my
livelihood, my life. But y'all kids is
straight. Y'all staying in big houses,
all the cars, got your trust funds, got
your IULs and your whatever else. Like I
ain't got that. You know what I'm
saying? So like why y'all get to
maneuver off of my stuff off my
Monopoly? That's crazy.
>> It's crazy because at the end of the day
you did all the work like
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