Roscoe Dash Explosive Interview I Signed A Bad Deal!

I feel like that was the best dance era out of all of the dancers >> then during that time the 2000s because >> I think they dance more cuz the dances now are more Tik Tok dances and whatever. I'm like that's not keep going back. I'm from the old school. We used to do the chic. We used to do the the we used to pray. You know what I'm saying? The chic. You just throw your hand on jam. [laughter] >> Yeah, we on boss talk oneonone. Yeah, we going to talk. We going to have fun. We be on fire. We be lit. Lit. It's a unique hustle. >> Check it check. This is Unique House. It's your boy ECO and I'm here with the lovely amazing official Miss Jamaica. What's going on? >> No n going. I want y'all to stop what you doing right now. Go like, subscribe, follow us from all social media platforms. When I mean all, I mean all. I mean our Instagram, Facebook, Tik Tok, Snapchat, you name it. We're on it. Just Google us Boss Talk Podcast 101. We'll pop up first in line. I guarantee you. But y'all see us on the streets and talk about, man, I love what y'all doing. Keep up the good work. How can we be a part of Ball Talk? This is how you can be a part of Ball Talk. Under each and every interview, including this one right here in the description section below, there's a link that says join our membership. Click that link, follow all the instructions, and that's how you get to see all the exclusive content y'all been asking us. Where's this interview? Where's that interview? You got to be a member to see it or go ahead and download our app at Boss Talk101 on any Apple or Google store. Thank you and we love you, >> man. Listen, man. I ain't going to lie to y'all. We got a special guest in here for y'all today, man. This cat right here, man. Hey, listen, man. Hey, he come from down there out of Georgia. I already know it, man. And listen, this the [ __ ] sold a lot of music, man. Now, Hook Monster ain't enough to say about this [ __ ] I I didn't even see this coming. I started researching and I got I said, "This [ __ ] slick. It's going down, man. My guys in the building. Rosco Dash, what's up, baby? >> How you doing, >> man? I don't believe it's you, bro, till you take say, "Girl, how that hood go? Give me how that hood go." >> How did that hood go? where you want no hands. >> I love the way your booty go. >> All I want to do is sit back and watch you move and I proceed to throw this cash. >> THAT'S THAT [ __ ] I TOLD Y'ALL THAT'S HIM. YOU [laughter] SIR, >> MAN. Thank you so much for coming on the show, man. Listen, man. Uh we we definitely um we always was tapped in. You can't be in the South and I hear them songs that you put together with these folks, and we about to get into a lot of them. I mean you you basically you you know you put together a good time for us in an era where you know I ain't going to lie I heard you I heard Waka of course I heard Wley I heard all of that but I heard rich homie corn too and that [ __ ] went to going in too you know I heard a lot of different people from LA y'all tried to take over man Georgia movement I say Georgia competitive >> you know it was it was a dope movement but let's get to it Jamaica I know how you get down >> so were you born and raised in Atlanta, Georgia, born and raised. A little bit of everywhere. I'm actually like a a mut what people would consider. So, um I'm from the original Capital Homes. It's been completely reentrified now. But the original Capital Homes, I went to uh Stone Mountain Elementary School. We lived off Pola Road. Uh Penny Brook to be exact. Then I went to Gwynette County. I was getting kicked out of school a lot. So, this is why I'm moving so much. Um but then I went to Gwynette. Yeah. >> Okay. We'll get into that. We'll get that. Keep going. Yeah. I went to Gwynette and uh I finished out my school out there. I moved around a little bit more, too, cuz I went to some alternative schools and other stuff like that. [clears throat] You're that bad. >> Yeah. It was kind of >> how Okay. I know you were raised by your mom and it said your great grandma. >> Yeah. >> I'm like, damn. >> My grandmother, too. Yeah. >> I was about to say, where did grandma go? >> Yeah, she was in there, too. This a good lineage of strong women. >> Wow. Where was dad? That's what I'm like. >> He was around. He was like, but this the thing. My u my dad and my stepmom were married since I was like 2 years old. So, he was like he had a whole and they had u she broke So your mom and your dad broke up when you were or they were never together. >> Either way, I don't know. You get different stories from me. You know how it go. You get them. You get your mama going to say this, your daddy going to say that. She going to tell you that she ain't really like him. [laughter] He's going to say that's you know what I mean? So >> they they they liked each other for a little bit damn show. And I'm going to be real with you, man. Uh they Hey, they they did something special. So they need to go on own it. >> Yeah. >> And you're the only child they had together. >> Yes. >> Okay. Okay. So but your dad still parttook in your life? Yeah, off and on. We had like spots where we weren't necessarily as close, but I was around. >> Okay. What did he do? Do you remember the first time when he made you mad that you didn't want to be around him? >> Um, yeah. It was probably from not being around. [laughter] It was probably from not being there. Um, and as I was going through all the things I was going through because like I said, I got kicked out of school a lot. So, I was getting kicked out of school like from preschool on up. My mom was probably like, "Yeah, he was." But, uh, yeah, I was getting kicked out a lot, but it was really just because Was that the reason why though? because your dad wasn't present. >> I think I was bored too, you know what I mean? I didn't have any. So, I have my older brother, too. He just passed away like 2 years ago. Yeah. So, he passed away. Sorry for your loss. Thank you. So, uh it was just me, him, and my mom in the house together. So, um he was kind of like not my father figure, but he was like the only depiction of a man that I was learning. And he was still becoming a man himself, 10 years older than me. >> Okay. That's how my brothers are 12 years old. >> So, you know, he got to drive his car first and stuff like that. His friends even being around. I got to see what young men were before I got to be one. That was my example. And then my dad um he was there but he was on the road. He was a truck driver too like for a lot of my years growing up. So I got to travel a lot and see a lot of things. But that also kept me out of a household of learning what a household would be like with him in it. You know what I'm saying? Cuz we were very seldom there or whatever. And even if I was at his house, he might have been on the road. So it was just a lot of disconnect. And then also that um didn't allow you to see a healthy relationship between a man and woman because although you said that you had a stepmom with your dad, if he was never there, >> you weren't able to see that. >> Um so going back to cuz I'm very curious. You said >> the first time from you got in trouble. What was that that you did that you got in trouble so bad that you had to get kicked out? I think in in preschool, if I'm not mistaken, we had this little uh this when we had the little Macintosh computers, like the first Macs or whatever, and we had these little games that you could play at uh at prek or whatever. We only had a specific amount of time that you could play, right, after you finish your school work or whatever it was that you were doing. >> So, it was always a race to get to the to the computers or whatever. And I think somebody like beat me to the computer only because like I was first, but then I had to do something else cuz the teacher asked me to do something and that person took my chair down. So, I think I like pulled the chair out from under the person or something like that and they uh kicked me out because >> But that's not something warranted to kick a kid out of school. >> Well, that must have been like the 10th time you did something bad. >> I don't know. I can't I don't know. But I remember that incident pretty vividly, though. Like [laughter] I'm like, "Dang, that's it." But uh >> yeah, it was just a lot of that. It was a lot of like simple things that happened. So even when I um ended up being in like grade school and I was getting kicked out, I was on a thing called rule 12. So what rule 12 is is any major offense that you have automatically gets you expelled again. You go back before the panel. So that could be three tardies, uh, two absences or whatever the case may be. All of that stuff constituted as that. So a lot of those things that I was getting kicked out for was like at least two or three times was like that type of stuff. >> I know how stressful that must have been on your mom. >> Yeah. And so I got to hear that too and get >> How did she deal with how did she [laughter] and you didn't you didn't you didn't like feel feel bad about it like mom? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I love my mom to death. I love my mom. >> So why didn't you straighten up? What? I felt like I was being straight at the I felt like I was like horrible. >> Somebody tested you. >> Yeah. Like it was just like little stuff. And sometimes it was the teachers like, you know, every now and then you get a teacher that kind of like isn't happy in their role of teaching. Like they probably shouldn't be a teacher or maybe they having a bad little stint and they need to go sit down for a minute or whatever and you get the brunt of that. You know what I mean? Like if they're not being not having no authority at home or something like that. Same thing we face with all these other things with cops and everywhere else. You know what I'm saying? Like it'd be a lot of that going on. So I get kicked out of school before the day even started. Like they'll be sending me home. So, let me So, now you're an adult. I want you to look back on your situations because I know that you have kids in school still going through things like that. And when I'm listening to you, >> I'm like, kids, I mean, first thing you said, you said, "Well, I think I was bored." And a lot of kids who are bored in school is because they're really smart, but teachers are not taking the time to really get them tested and to realize how to teach this this kid >> or even just to connect with them >> or to connect with them. So, how would you be able to advise whether say the school district or is it because certain areas are impoverished so they just don't care about the kids or what is it? >> I think me personally where I sit today is like work shouldn't feel like work in any capacity. Like you should love what you do to an extent of where it doesn't feel like I got to do this today. You know what I mean? So like for the people who are teachers or even cops or whoever else like whatever no matter what the job description is, if you feel like that about your job, you probably shouldn't be there. You know what I mean? like you probably have a lesser role doing that if that's something you want to get into or whatever the case may be. But it shouldn't be >> to a place where the child feels like they're doing something or they can't have an environment to learn or um you know what I mean like something like that. So and I get a lot of that even from my kids. My kid has a teacher right now that when I met her at open house she seemed like she was the nicest person >> but we're here we are on the first week of school and she's like I can't stand this lady's class. I want to get I want to get changed. She's giving out tardies for no reason for going to the bathroom. She's doing just like little right >> you know what I'm saying agitating things or whatever. So, um, >> so you going to have to make an appearance at the school? >> Yeah, I'm going to have to show up. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. >> I made a teacher cry. Yeah. By messing with my daughter. She she end up and it it wasn't a bad thing. I just actually got to talking with her and I believe and that girl, you know, she still she became one of she was a great teacher. She actually when my daughter ended up uh graduating when she uh top of her class uh >> she was actually the vice principal. >> No, she was not the vice principal. I ain't talking. No, I'm talking about that fifth grade teacher. Yeah. like like she was just playing with her and and she grew up in the store. So I told her my daughter used to dealing with grown folks, man. So you know she know how to deal with people so don't email us no more cuz you making things hard for at the house cuz I think she in trouble you know and she started telling me about all her personal business and and how they were she was a sister too how she was being kind of you know sidestepped and she wasn't getting her just do due. Next thing you know I was like man hey she were crying and everything. I I had to get up out of there man. But but it changed everything. and the temperature change. There's a lot of stories like that. So, having kids, >> especially having daughters like yourself, you know, you going to have to be in tune and intact with that stuff, man. Yeah. >> But you see, as you said that, that's something I wanted to touch on and the fact that teachers are human beings and they go through things. They're stressed at home and have to come and deal >> all of that could be teachers because dealing with a lot of kids are stressful. Sometimes we can't even deal with our own kids. Imagine dealing with 30, 40, even 20 kids. You know what I mean? different personalities don't want to listen whatever it's hard so I don't know how maybe they need to have counselors themselves at the school that they can deal with >> I agree with that need something because >> they are human beings >> yeah and at the end of the day what's the what's the goal here right is to give these these kids a space to be able to learn and educate themselves and to be able to be themselves too and learn how to grow and operate in team settings and isolate themselves and prioritize a lot of things that come out of school that should be coming out of school you know what I'm saying like life skills M. >> So, and my daughter just started high school uh last week, one of them. So, uh this is the kid that I'm talking about particularly. So, it's just like it's a very pivotal time for her. And I'm I'm the um parent who has her the majority of the time, for lack of better words. You know what I'm saying? So, like >> it's important to me to just make sure that she's getting the things that she's supposed to get. And I work on the road. I move around a lot, too. So, just being able to create that balance and teaching her how, like you said, be able to deal with adults. You know what I mean? Because you're becoming one ultimately. So, I need to teach you this as early on as possible. Same thing with my seven-year-old. like she learned she knows how to operate and how to move and how to be respectful and all of that. >> So I think it's just about making sure that they have all the things they need so they can equip themselves for life. >> Man, I think it's commendable that you taking care of your kids, man, and and doing the right thing. I love do you know spotlighting that because like like me and I always bring up Ali and we talking about when we talking about good dads. You got dads out here that do care for their kids. We don't even hang with people who don't take care of their kids. Who hangs with that guy? >> Like come on, man. And if I know you ain't taking care of your kids, why would I hang with you? I know% I can't if I can't trust you around my kids, I'm not doing it. I need to feel comfortable. I need to be like, "Okay, I'm cool with Cuz you know, it's a lot of it's just a different space that we're in as a as a whole, not even as a culture of people, just as a people, you know what I mean? So like for me as a dad, I watch how my if somebody's like really wants to get a lot of hugs from my child and I watch all that stuff, you know what I'm saying? I make sure they know, you don't got to hug these people. You don't got to do nothing you don't want to do." You know what I'm saying? So just creating, like I said, creating a space that just is safe for them to be themselves in whatever capacity that is. >> That's right. >> And I did, that's exactly what I was going to do is commend you on the fact that you became a father at 16 years old and you're so in your kids' life the way how you are now, the way how you're talking about that >> and you're not with a mom, >> which I was like in my mind I was like, "Oo, I hope he's still with a mom." But you're not a whole navigating. >> Yeah. But at least you're still there. um at 16. Go back and tell me what when you found out that >> Oh my gosh. [laughter] First time. >> I'm about to snatch you from it. Don't worry about it. >> You're almost out of this. Just Just go through a little more. Just to go there, but just don't worry about it. Just just just just hang on. [laughter] >> You know, you were at a pivotal point in your life when you were playing basketball, you were doing the rap, you were doing a lot of things that you were trying to get ahead and then here she come and said, "Well, I'm pregnant." >> Mhm. Changed my whole everything. I thought I was going to go to the league, bro. I thought I was gonna like I thought I was out of >> that little three-pointer. You thought you like >> straight. I thought I was good. Like I'm like, I'm talking to coach. I'm like, coach, I'm going to school early to meet with coach. Like, so coach, what's the game plan for this? I'm doing all of that. But when I when this happened, it immediately changed my whole everything. And not to say that I switched it to music cuz I really went to school for anesthesiology and radiology tech. People don't know that. And I got my GED. I did that from a GED, too. So, I got kicked out of school. So, I turned it from a negative to a positive and was like, I'm going to use this to get ahead of my class. Big big bucks in that though. [laughter] >> That's what I That's all I was thinking to get me to go. >> The [ __ ] never did go to work. >> Let's just talk about it. Let's just be real. That [ __ ] went over there for nothing. >> Facts. >> He over there trying to educate himself in something. That ain't what God had for him. >> But [laughter] what you got to do sometimes you got to be willing to listen, right? No. No. You have to look different. You have to look It's okay to look crazy when you trying to figure out what God have for you. Absolutely. Most people think they supposed to look like everything's together. Most of the people I see God deal with, they look like the like when I did this podcast, my people come, man, what is you doing? You won't be selling clothes in here, man. Why you put this in here? They told me that. I heard that a lot, didn't I? But I just kept doing it. It's like Noah with the ark. It had never rained. >> So people looked at him like, man, this [ __ ] crazy. It ain't going it's going to rain. They wouldn't even get in. They drowned. So because >> for looking crazy, the smartest person. >> So you always look crazy during that concept. I the process. Go ahead. >> So tell me how you what was in your mind? What other than you say you going to the league so like responsibly? What did your mom say? What did your grandma say? >> That's right. >> So go ahead. >> Yeah. I I was like I think there was only one other couple in the high school that had a baby at the time. So we were like the 1%. You know what I'm saying? So and we were interracial couple. So that my first kid's mom is uh white and Korean. So okay, it was just a different thing for for just that time that we were in. You know what I'm saying? Like we didn't have a lot of interracial stuff or none of that stuff going on. So, um, it, like I said, it just like was a culture shock for me a little bit. You know what I mean? I'm like, "Dang." Okay. I went from just having fun doing some stuff that I probably shouldn't have been doing to like, "Oh, this is going to be my life now." You know what I mean? So, that was God's first way of saying, "Hey, you better get better together. >> We about to do some stuff." You know what I mean? So, I had to like >> go get a job. And like I said, I figured out how to uh turn my getting kicked out of school to a positive thing and getting out of school early so I could have more time with them cuz I didn't put them right in daycare. We put them in a um like a at home daycare center for the first few years before we put them in school and stuff like that. Yeah. So, like I said, just I've always because I think because of the lack thereof for me and the comfortability of like how I was growing up in certain spaces or whatever. Not that my parents weren't doing the best they could do or anything like that, but you know, we all have uncomfortable parts or whatever. And you're either going to become what you didn't like or you're going to stray away from it. You know what I'm saying? So, again, I come from a lineage of strong women. So, this is what I'm learning from their traumas and stuff that they were growing up. Luckily for me, I got my mom who went through what she went through to be able to raise two boys in the capacity that she was. You know what I mean? My grandma was a French and English teacher for 30 years. So, she taught me how to be articulate and how to speak French a little bit and this that >> you sure can can talk a good game. >> Yeah. Like, yeah, I play ball, >> too. You know, no, you talking a damn good game. You articulate well. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> You a real talking ass dude, man. Like, you be real. I've been listening at you. I said, "This [ __ ] could have been from Congress." >> No, for sure. I wanted [laughter] I wanted to do uh psychology and stuff. I wanted to do psychology and be a counselor naturally just because of what I was going through. >> Exactly. Just to be there for the kids. 100%. To this day, I'm still like that even even as the uncle to certain kids who may or may not have both of their parents or whatever. You know what I mean? Like I'm I always advocate for the kids and they always gravitate to me or whatever. But I think that comes from the little kid that I was at one point. You know what I mean? So just learning how to navigate that, finding things to be able to lean on cuz I played in the streets too. I gang banged. We've played with guns and sold some weed and all kind of other stuff too. You know what I mean? But just figuring out like, yo, I got a little girl that's waiting on me to be to to show up at the house. You know what I mean? and she looks just like me, too. So, if I ain't here, guess what? She's got to look in the mirror every day and look at the person who wasn't who didn't make it to be here in this moment. You see what I'm saying? So, that's what got me out the streets. >> But then, not only that, for the main fact that your father wasn't always there for you. I'm sure you like, "No, I can't be like that." Cuz I know how much that how I felt >> and I look just like him. So, me looking in the mirror every day, I was seeing that. You know what I'm saying? Junior, too. Yep. See? >> Wow. We going to get you pulled. Yeah. Yeah. That's dead now. >> I'm telling you, it's almost 20 minutes in. We not doing this. Nobody don't care. Nobody cares. >> Funny, bro. >> You said that. Okay. You were raised by your mom, your grandma, and your great grandma, [clears throat] right? >> Tell me something that they all offered that was different, like you had to go to your grandma to hear that or to get this from her, and you had to go to your mama to get that. >> Okay. So, my great grandma was like, she was a pastor at one point to our church. And so, she was a very strong woman. She cleaned houses. She like was a slave at one point. You know what I'm saying? And so yeah, like she really did that. So she was the disciplinary before I got to where my dad was really putting that belt to our ass and [ __ ] like that. You know what I'm saying? But she would make us go get a switch and she would make us clean and she would make us do different things. So I learned naturally what etiquette was. And then my grandma that trickled down to her, too. So she, as I said before, she's very articulate. She was a French English teacher, so it was all about things being in a proper place. The words, the commas, the whatever else. So we had a list literally on her refrigerator. I'll never forget this. That was like if you open it, close it. If you use it, put it back. If you take it, you know what I like a list of etiquette and I live by that. It like taught me how to be how to look around before I come into somebody's house to know if I should take my shoes off, how to like speak to everybody when I come in a room, no matter if I'm the biggest person there or not. You know what I mean? Just like different life skills that just followed me. And then my mom who was a hard worker and was resilient and had two boys and had to figure it out and go to she went to H.B.CU and gra graduated Ivy League and was aka one of the original ones. Like it just taught me how to like not allow your situation to make you >> and and instead make your situation. You know what I mean? So like, yeah, that's how I got here. >> That's it. It's over. We've been talking about music. We've been talking about who this [ __ ] is. We got to try to figure out who this [ __ ] is on the music side. Nobody don't know all the stuff you brought out. >> Nobody don't know. >> Nobody knows none of this. You I found some things right here. [laughter] >> Good. She something else, man. I know. I'm never going to ask a question. She going and that's why she here. >> That's the yang. >> There you go. Now I'm about to get all the way in your Kool-Aid. I want to know the flavor. Like so when you first when did you first start like just rapping? Like when did you know I can rap? >> Uh probably like eight or nine years old. >> But you still want to play basketball? >> I did. I played football too. So I was just outside. I was outside quarterback wide receiver and I play tight end. I play kicker. I played punter. I played all that. >> You supposed to be able to play all position when you trying to you thought you going to the league. >> I thought I was going to the league. Either this one or that when we going though. >> Which one were you better at? >> Probably basketball cuz I played quarterback and I ain't going to lie, my first two years of playing quarterback, I was getting my bell rung. I know. [laughter] >> And this around when Vic was out there. So I'm thinking I could Oh my god, man. I done broke all my fingers. >> Literally, boy, one of them games you like you going backwards then every damn time you catch that ball, you going backwards. That's just horrible. I done did it. That's why I know >> scoring. It's like you wake up in the end zone. You didn't You don't know how you cross the line. You just wake up there and they like, "Yeah, yeah." You like, "Oh, okay. I did it." [laughter] Yeah, I'm cool on that. >> But let's let's talk about it, man. So, you basically end up um well, you know, I've heard I you can't look you up without this boom thing popping up. Every time I try to research, [laughter] I say, "Man, I don't want to just I don't want to sound like the rest of these cats, man." But at the end of the day, >> you you was talking about that in a way that it really was a thing that really hurt, you know, your career. But you talk when you look at Nelly, when you look at all of these people, man, that getting in these deals up front, everybody took a hit. >> So, you're not by yourself. Your story is every most of every these all these artist stories not understanding business upfront. So why did you and he he said you know he said you was a little you know gangster you know he did say he said you try to act all modest in there with me. Yeah that [ __ ] had his gun on him. I said what that [ __ ] come to my spot. He said he used to be in the street. >> I know I'm listening at y'all said yeah this [ __ ] a real [laughter] guy. He done check me. He want to do him like push or something. You know what I'm saying? That's funny. >> So, I mean, what what what was the deal? I'm I'm going to get off that horse, but I might well jump right into it. Like, what was the deal with that? I mean, and have you seen this guy since he did that? I think he was on what was that? That he was on bigger >> uh Big Facts, I think. >> No, the other one. >> No, no. Big Bang. Big Bang. Big perspective. And And I seen that. That's the only thing popped. I said, I'm going to research it. >> What the hell? Have you seen him since >> I've seen him since then. >> Then do you feel good about it? Like you okay with him? >> Yeah. That's between him and God. >> Yeah. Cuz you at this age, you way more mature. >> 100%. >> You done already did jump them hurdles and know you, you know, made some crazy mistakes. It wasn't just him. It was you, too. Because anytime a man sell his hour. >> Absolutely. >> You know what I'm saying? When you do all this with you just, you don't know what you just signed for me. >> And I got you on my own contract right now. >> Guess what? God, >> we going to work good together. [laughter] >> So, it's good. I work I work with God. So, so all all I'm saying is like like when that first happened to you, I know it set you back. It was a major setback for, you know, it was a minor setback for a major comeback. Like >> what was it that you feel like he done >> when you think about it? Now, I looked at your interview with uh the other boy. What's that Cam New? Like >> what is it that you left out? I'll ask you like that. >> When you Yeah. when you thought about all the stuff you said, you say, you know what, after you heard what he had to say about it from my perspective or just >> from your perspective, >> um that I took place in that I took part in. I mean, I would say just not like I think I was so And this is funny because this how God moved, bro. It's just so wild. Like you'll think you getting something, right? Like you'll think like because you did all this steering and driving to like do what you thought you were supposed to be doing in this moment to get to the goal that you wanted to reach, right? Like when it starts happening, you like, "Yeah, I made it. I told you I was going to do that. you in that bag. You know what I'm saying? God going to be like, "God sitting back like this." Like, "Yeah." All right. We going to let it unfold for a little bit longer and then we going to show you what it really is. You know what I'm saying? So, like to me, I think it's moving like that. I think it was just being hasty. My mom wasn't around. That's like my staple. That was my my rock. I wouldn't do anything without her. She was in Seattle dealing with some recession stuff trying to keep her job. I was in the house by myself, you know what I mean? So, like moving around and trying to get my record played as I was creating these records literally in the basement and then turning around and trying to go get them played at the club. I didn't know even know what going to the real studio was at that point. I'm just trying to see if I got if I got what it takes. You know what I mean? So, um I think just being hasty and just like not taking the time for God to set the table, you know what I mean? Or allowing the time for God to set the table. I was doing too much steering. >> Was it a 360 deal? >> It was probably >> How would he know how to do a 360 deal? He don't know. He don't I I'm looking at him at the time. He couldn't have been educated about it either. >> No, not at all. I think he said that in one of his interviews actually. >> Yeah, but Okay. So, so when you look at what he tied you in, he probably I ain't even know I got him that good. >> [laughter] >> He was doing what everybody during that era was doing to everybody else. >> He was probably just on the phone talking to other people like what did you do? Send me your template or your thing. Probably something like that. Now I remember seeing a lawyer or two like we went to New York a couple times like as we were shopping my deals and stuff and I remember it being a lawyer that was around that was like he just had like a weird but again it's God bro. God don't let you feel that like okay you see what you dealing with. It's not my type of it's not what I set for you. You out here on your own. So keep going out there in them woods and eventually them wolves going to come out and they going to get you bro. It's just what it Whatever. But you you said something that he said different. You said that Innercope they let you off or something. He said you leaked you leaked some music. >> That came later. >> Did you leak some music? >> Absolutely. [laughter] >> You tired of waiting on these [ __ ] >> No. Yeah. I'm in the same boat right now. They're still dealing with the same admin stuff. And guess what? I'm not going to wait. >> The same thing. >> Not waiting, bro. >> Not waiting. >> You still got my deal right now. They still have my admin rates right this second. Yeah. It's tied up in a deal. That's the only reason why I can't get them back. So, I have to wait for somebody to pay their tab of what they use my stuff for to get some money and wait for them to clear that so that I'm even in a position to be able to negotiate to get my stuff back. >> How hard is it when you get into these situations like that, >> man? >> That, you know, cuz I think of it like they shelfd him. >> I'm being real. >> That's what the world going to think. And they don't care. It's just like it's it's like any other street situation. Like, we going to let them think whatever they want to think. We know what's going on type of thing. But yeah, valid. I would I would imagine the world would think I fell off or I >> I never seen you no more. I'm going to be real with you. When you was on a high end, you I can't say that. OG told me don't say that no more. Shout out though. >> You was on a you was on a you was on a high like you was going up. >> So like like what did did you get depressed? Hell yeah. Plenty time. >> That's the part right there people don't like. Remember we had Oenty >> times. Yeah. >> He he got depressed. You know exactly. >> How badly of depression did you get? >> I wanted to quit. Like I was just like I'm cool. Like I've said that to them even in in in trying to negotiate and get my stuff back. Like, yo, I'm aging, bro. I know I look good, but I'm like, I'm moving. I'm getting older a little bit. You know what I mean? So, like, and it's not that I feel like my time is running out or nothing like that, but like I got kids that are growing up. My first daughter that that we just talked about in high school, she just she's turning 20 next month. She just graduated high school with honors. Y'all holding up my money that I could be going to send her to go do whatever she want to go do. I got two more right behind them. You know what I'm saying? And I want to have some more kids. You know what I mean? So, like, y'all playing with my livelihood, my life. But y'all kids is straight. Y'all staying in big houses, all the cars, got your trust funds, got your ILS and your whatever else. Like, I ain't got that. You know what I'm saying? So, like, why y'all get to maneuver off of my stuff? My monopoly. That's crazy. >> It's crazy because at the end of the day, you did all the work like on that no hands. Let's go to that for a second. Did you >> How did they approach you with doing that? The hook, you had the last verse. >> That was just us being in the in the studio or being in the right place. >> So, y'all just being young just doing music? >> Yeah. Me and Walk. So, like when we was in Atlanta, uh, growing up or coming up in this era of music, we had this thing called, uh, we had a couple, but we had one particular thing called mariachi Mondays where everybody would go to like it was like a open mic that was hosted by two of the, uh, hottest radio MC's at the time, the Dirty Boys. And so, uh, me, Waka, Travis Porter, Sean Tezy, K Camp, you name it. Like all the people out of Atlanta, we would all meet up in Marietta far as hell out the way to go do this. So, we all really was boys. Like, we was cool. We just might not have ever been in the in the same studio session with with the intention of recording a record together and this No Hands was the first time that we got to do that. >> Wow. >> Do you feel like your your hook made that song? >> Absolutely. I feel like I feel like it was a camaraderie of like the beat I wouldn't have came up with the hook without the beat and all this other stuff, but like the hook definitely helps put you on the right track to finish the record. For sure. >> Yeah. You know, almost every song if it the hook is slamming, that's the what people always remember when they're singing. That's what they always sing. It's always a hook and they don't even know the rest of the words. They know the hook. >> Mhm. 100%. And I'm like a CD baby. Like I grew up going to the record store and like getting CDs, opening the booklets, reading like I came up on Mike Jones. I came up on TI and Ludicrous. Also the Pox and Jay-Z's and them of course, but I have like a wide demographic of music that I grew up on. So just learning these different characters and these personas and like their story and origin taught me how to be that of my own. You know what I mean? Like so >> all your [ __ ] be fun all the way turned up. all the way. It made you feel like but you you know a lot of [ __ ] throwing their money they were broke. I I I got stories with dudes broke [laughter] trying to do what what you were doing. They didn't have no damn money. I had one guy threw $1,000 then as me. I got mad as hell. He asked me can I borrow? I said no. You throw all your money. But man, don't get too hyped up. You know got a man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. [laughter] >> But my question is okay. So all of that is tied up with the with the labels. all of that >> cuz people don't always feel like, okay, so if that's tied up, why don't you go make something else and do something different >> so you can still make your money over here. >> Yeah. So, I think because it's like a 360 deal, it's my admin. So, any publishing that has anything to do with Rosco Dash, period, is going to be tied up in that. >> The admin I could do that. I thought about that a couple times, too. I thought about doing that, but then I'm like, man, you know what? >> God put me in in this position to be able to be who I am. So if I got to sit a little longer to do this that I ain't I'm not like on the side of the street, you know what I'm saying? I still got opportunities. We just had seven songs on the Metro Boom album last year that was like the top joint, you know what I mean? So like we in these positions of of still brushing shoulders and being some of the most uh some of the best and most uh magnified energy in the room, no matter if you're playing on the record or we're recording it in the studio, you know what I mean? So like it can't be that can't be change mind stuff to do. So, do they get even if you write songs for somebody else, >> they get >> They tried to get me for writing the songs on the Metro stuff, too. Yeah. >> Let me ask you this, man. You and Metro linked up a few times, man. How >> This was the first This was the This last project was the first time that we actually got to get in a studio together. >> Yeah. But >> So, the first time you You done worked on some of his music before though, right? >> This is the first time. This This is my And it's funny because when I would see him out, I'd be like, "Damn, this is the only person I don't really >> I thought y'all had." Mm- This is the first time. >> Never had cuz he be he be everywhere. This [ __ ] be everywhere. So I'm like in Atlanta. How could he how did y'all miss each other all that time? >> That's crazy. During that depression time, I was probably in the house. >> That's probably what it was. So how was he working with him? >> Man, it was amazing. The best the best thing I tell people this all the time. Like the best thing that that I love or that I remember the most about this just coming together to do this is most of the time when we create records, we send stuff like it's like bumping into someone's like, "Oh, I'm going to send you some stuff." And then they put a verse on it. But there's no like synergy in that. You know what I mean? When we did this project, everybody was pulling up to the studio. I'm talking about Quo, Two Chains, uh, Little Baby, uh, you name it. Everybody, anybody who was on that project, Schoolie, all of them, we were all in the studio together and we had three rooms. We would just move around like it's it's like lunch tables almost. We just like move around and just like see what the conversation was about in each room and just if we liked it, we get on that or sometimes we'd be curating records that ain't even for us. I don't I was in there for a few different records that I'm not even on that I was just helping curate the vibe. >> Well, you got a god-given talent, man. >> Yeah. >> Who who have who who have impressed you the most with the ear to understand music? Oh, >> like you you've met a lot of people over the years like who you got in the studio with or you was around and they just knew and you was like, "How you do that?" >> It's going to be I got like three. My three would be Kanye. Uh it would be Mike Dean. [clears throat] >> Shout out to Mike Dean. >> Yeah, Mike Dean is a J. Dope. >> Yeah, for sure. And then my last one >> I'll probably say Metro. >> Really? >> I'd probably say Metro. And and when you look at like like these guys and working with these guys, Kanye, I've heard from from Malik Yousef to all the people I've worked with or or done interviews with that, you know, how how you know like like in the studio, he give everybody their portion of what they done or if they played part, he's real genuine when it comes to that. >> Did you Did you ever know that about Kanye? >> Well, I didn't know it before. I was petrified when I went in that room. Man, what? Oh my god, I was scared. Yeah. on the on the uh on the elevator. I'm coming up. I'm with the rep that was with me. Shout out to Jean. Um and he was like, "Man, all right. When we get in here, man, you know, it's a little different." Da da da. And you're hearing all the stories about like uh camera Kanye smashing cameras and all this, you know, all the publicity stuff. So, I don't know what to expect, but I love the artist that is, you know what I mean? I love the creatives and so and I think that there's a m there's a mutual uh feeling when it comes to that. You know what I mean? So, boom. I'm shaking when I get off the elevator. And then it's like super militant, too, bro. It's crazy. Like [laughter] so it's like it's like these 7 foot dudes sitting at the end of the uh as soon as you get off the elevator it's like some real suits like ninjas like you can tell they really going to [ __ ] you up. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Something happened. You you ain't going to make it out there. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They with their bare hands type. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. So um anyway I walk in the room and it's like hell of people in there like uh Benjamin uh Billy Fworth, Don C uh Kid Cuy was in there like you name it. Everybody from the good music with the exception of like Two Chains and and Big Sean was in there. You know what I mean? So I immediately felt different then because now I'm in here with the creative energy or whatever. But just the way that he's able to just have all these great things going on at one time around him, you know what I mean? And teach he taught me how to like create in a round table setting. So what we would do is we would have conversations. That's how we did Yeezus, too. We uh sat in the thing and we talked about like what was going on with the uh FCC and like all these other things that were going on in the world. And then he'll sit there and make songs about it based off of like her difference in opinion, yours, how he might not care about none of that [ __ ] and be like this ain't for us. We don't even d whatever. He'll sit there and make a controversial album off of like what the conversation is in the room. >> Which one? Jesus Walk. Which one? >> Ye Jesus. So that had like Black Skin Head on it. That had uh Blood on the Lead. That had >> uh uh Bound was on there a couple through that whole process. >> Yeah. He took he took he uh flew me out to Paris for that. >> Wow, man. And and he just took a liking to you because of the way that you are with your artistry. >> Yeah. He told me that actually one time I got an email from him. This was actually why I still got email like because he's not a phone person. he don't you I mean or even back then he wasn't. So he sent me an email and told me that he was like yo you have something special in just how you hear music your your backgrounds and it's like it's like a time capsule in a sense but just like different though you know what I mean? It was like a real Kanyeish message but I appreciated it because it's like coming from him and he took the time to sit down and email me that. You know what I mean? As a 20 22 year old kid that was just getting his footing and something that that was ultimately be 17 18 years later I'm still doing I got a diamond record now and all this other stuff. You know what I mean? He saw that early. So, I thought that was cool. >> I think that was I really know that was cool. Like when you when you and you got that for your archive. Like you better hold on to it. Yeah, for sure. That's huge. Like >> Yeah. You better keep that, man. Cuz you know how it can go, man. The documentary. >> Mhm. >> When is it coming? >> It's on the way. We still We still >> You've been saying that forever, bro. God damn. >> We still >> When is it coming? >> It's coming. >> In fact, I'm about to probably put something out before the end of this year. I have a couple things that I'm working. >> Y'all too romantic, bro. Like, y'all wait. What you waiting on? Wait. Break the wagon. >> That's true. That is valid. >> No. Like the first time I heard that. >> You got to think about it, man. You You act like you got Man, tomorrow night promise to no man, bro. >> Valid. That's valid, >> bro. And and and and if you drop, you don't know what God have for you. You You waiting. What you waiting on? >> Ain't nothing to wait on. You ready? >> Because at the end of the day, we are in a market now where digital marketing and media is everywhere. >> Just ready to go right now. They they like to run. They don't even need it. >> I think a lot of people be romantic cuz they scared they going to fail. A lot of these dudes do. I'm being real. No. For me, honestly, >> I'm not going to say it's you. I don't be don't get defensive on me. I ain't going to get No, I'm [laughter] the thing RIGHT HERE. >> BUT SOME PEOPLE ARE SCARED. >> They are scared. And I think I think that comes from just like for me, I love and thrive off of what at least in the last like 3 years I've been focusing on like transparency and vulnerability. And I think that's two love languages that we leave off the thing. We talk about gifting and all this other [ __ ] but like being transparent and being vulnerable is a gift, too. It's a thing that it's a thing that like somebody's choosing to do for you. You know what I and choosing allow yourself now lately. So I think that now the documentary is going to be way better anyway >> cuz now you get the real Rosco. I've already I just this this Cam Newton interview was the first time I ever told anybody about my publishing [ __ ] or what was going on. It's the first time I ever said >> it blew up every it made everybody see you differently but they understood and it made you feel better to release that. Cam was he talked about a lot of things you know and and but I really focused on the fact of what you were saying about you know what your deal I think it helps it heals to tell your story I was so anxious to do it >> but do you get backlash when you speak out against things like that I understand that in today's day and time with the internet a lot more people are talking out but you know back then people wouldn't talk out and if you did talk out they sort of >> black ball you and whatever. Is that still somewhat the same or is it okay for everybody talking there's no reprimand for it? >> I think we're in a different time than we were then. I won't say it's necessarily better, you know what I mean? But I think that people have become more gutsy in doing so anyway and just being like it is what it is. You know what I mean? >> There's no cost for >> I think I I totally disagree. I think people wimps. >> They are they don't talk about stuff enough. you you whether it's whether it be Nolan Wales, whether it be any of this stuff that happened on that boy just got anybody uh Carmelo, any of this stuff. We used to have a voice >> and that voice came through our people of hip-hop. >> Mhm. >> Chuck D and all those guys uh um Ice Tina, what they said made a difference. And it's a problem for me looking at us with all this entrepreneurship. Everybody scared they going to lose their bag. >> Well, they drown out they scared they going to lose their bag. They want to drown out the truth, man. These people, you got to understand where the money's coming from. You know what I'm saying? Like we talked about before we put the cameras on, like it's from their daddy. You know what I'm saying? >> I just said they scared they going to lose their bag if they speak up. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, it's like fast money. Whereas us, we come from where you had to bump into the superstar to get that autograph and whatever. You couldn't just turn on your phone and go look at Instagram and see what they got going on or see into their everyday lives or whatever. Like, now we're going to we're going to employ the people who ain't talking about [ __ ] The mumble rappers that we got autotune. We in the digital era. let's bleed their eardrums with this type of stuff instead of like what we're talking about which is the substance of how our community was built and how we got the things that they in here doing whatever they doing and you know what I mean so like I think it just takes a balance of one being accountable for that even the people who like you said before you got on camera too like just what with the bridge the bridge wasn't always like it is now you know what I'm saying it's our job to rebuild that is really what I'm saying >> and God's given you a wide open lane all this stuff is free >> we just and the sad part about it is if you go and post something, right? Nothing. And and No, no, no. I'm talking about for as getting on the internet, putting your product out there, and at the end of the day, you get 2,000. You you know, if you bought 2,000 people in here, how many people be in here? You you mad cuz you didn't get but 2,000 views on this one. And you 2,000 views is a lot. Yeah, it is. >> But you so caught up in what somebody else got >> that you don't even understand that this >> We in an era. >> You see what I'm saying? Is good 100%. >> We got to stop thinking like that. We got to start focusing on putting stuff out and being continuous and dealing with our people. Getting back to a place where we can touch those people some way tangible like a app, something that we own to where our people can connect with us in a way. Kind of like what Snoop Dogg is doing. Kind of like what O o OG Network is doing with uh my boy Ice T and uh uh Big Court. Uh kind of like what Booy doing with the Booya Network. We got to do that individually and we got to take the hit. I know they was like, man, Booy uh that Vlad thing hit. No, I I I'd rather see him do bad by himself and come up on his own with the people who love him than to see him out here selling his soul for a jelly roll and and neglecting the culture. >> Selling his soul for the jelly roll is a new [laughter] >> That's a old time. >> I have never heard that. >> Old time. >> But am but what we talking I'm just being real. We got to get back to our people and that's who we are. People love you, man. >> No, for sure. >> Okay. What we what we doing here? I'm going to bless the streets. I'm >> But I'm just saying, you know what I'm saying? We've been talking about the album, but I'm just saying that I'm just talking, you know, like what are we doing >> to help connect with our people? Cuz our people love us. >> They are. Yeah. That they do love us. And I think that like >> we we get away from reciprocity a lot too. Like a lot of people don't even know what the [ __ ] reciprocity means. You know what I'm saying? So like >> I think it's about educate. Thank god I had a grandma like I did, bro, that taught me words or said some stuff around me that make me want to go look it up. Now people got the phone glued to their head, but they still won't look it up. I get on my daughters about that all the time. Don't ask me what something means when you got the phone glued to your hand all the time. The least you can do is look up what I'm talking about. So, man, have some have some inquisiveness. >> Do [laughter] something. You know what I'm saying? Like the answer is right there. But you got to want to go find them. You know what I'm saying? Otherwise, you're going to settle for whatever somebody's going to teach you. And that could lead you down a whole another, you know what I mean? That you don't want to be in. I may not always be here to reel your ass back. So, I need to learn how to f for yourself in that regard at least. >> Man, >> you know, when you're talking about the music, right? Mhm. >> And the funny thing >> going back into the way how things are now compared to the way how it was. And everybody's different cuz you're into the music so you'll know who sing this and who and the songs and everything. >> Back then I knew the songs. I didn't know who did it unless you were just somebody that was everywhere. This I'm talking about before the internet. >> Yeah. >> All right. So how does an artist go from, okay, I know the song, people know the song, but they really don't know you. So now making them know who you are. You see what I mean? in today's like who are you? >> But when they hear the song, oh that's >> yeah I've been going I've been fighting that battle for the last couple years and now I'm finally making some traction in it because I'm being more transparent and more vulnerable and >> I'm telling people what's going on. It's not just about the publishing situation but it's just about letting people see what you got going on in real life. >> You know what I mean? So like and I think that the more you do that, the more you allow people to cuz nowadays when you see something that's like out of the ordinary, what's our first thing? Oh, that's got to be AI because that's numbing. That's what I say. >> You see what I'm saying? They're numbing us to that. You know what I mean? So, like your your uh receptors of what's real and what's fake or even the attention span or how enthusiastic, they're literally sucking the soul out of you with that. So, for me, it's about just carrying it in a different light. You know what I'm saying? And just like being more transparent and vulnerable, telling people exactly what's if you're having a bad day, sometimes I don't need to have a professional camera or whatever. I can just pick my phone up and be like, "Hey, you know what? Come on, man. This ego and pride messed up as a community and we need to d sometimes they just need that raw. You know what I mean? >> I love it. I love I love that. >> I feel people need to do that more, but a lot of people feel like, "Oh, I can't go on camera today because I I I don't have my hair done. I don't have a haircut. I'm not in the right clothes." You have a good message, but you tend to not give that good message at that moment because I'm not looking right. >> Well, that's your fault. You need to go. No, that's your damn fault. You're not align. You must don't want to work. I'm looking good every day. I'm on there every day. If you get up there and get and get on there every day and go get yourself together, what we talking about? I don't care nothing about none of that. >> I'm going. I've been working hard, >> man. We f to work, man. Nobody care nothing about that. Not no man, but a woman do. >> No, but these new kids, the the new >> That's them. We better pass them up. I don't care nothing about that. You know what I'm saying? Leave them over there with that. We better get on this camera. >> No, for sure. >> Cuz everybody know who you is. You You Rosco Dash. you what you waiting on? >> Mhm. >> That's what I be tripping off of. Like, man, everybody know you already. So, what are we waiting on? >> Yeah, >> you you exactly right when you anytime you see Country Wayne running around here talking about he making four and 600,000 a month just off of a cell phone. What the hell is we waiting on? >> Sometimes they have a haircut, sometimes he won't. >> They don't care. >> Sometimes he got on a Gucci and the people love you for women can't just do that. We ain't really talking. I ain't really tripping on them like No, they they could do that, right? But it it's the same rules apply. Like they going to want to have their hair. Oh, I ain't got my lashes done today. Oh, I ain't got my lashes on. I can't. There's girls that won't even get on FaceTime because they don't have no lashes on. You know what I'm saying? Like, so you got to get around that for you got to be okay with who you see in the mirror. I I do all my talking in front of the mirror. If I'm on the phone, if I'm doing whatever, I'm walking past a mirror all day long cuz I want my I'm talking to myself, too. I ain't just telling people some stuff that I'm not going to do, you know what I mean? Or whatever. And I need the the version of me that's about to exist once I get done doing what I'm doing to know what we talking about today so he can be better prepared for when we get where he at. You know what I mean? I'm I love the woman who go on live and whatever like Tommy Roman, she'll go on there looking. My girl, my girl pretty v. I'm a pretty V fan. And she don't care. I don't care. That's the one right there for me. She jump on that any kind of way. Don't care what people think. And that's why she [clears throat] got the most likes and >> that's why I love that because she jump on anytime. She don't be tripping on none of that. She don't care. >> We got to just get back to connecting, man. We got to just get back. >> That's it right there. Yeah. We got to get back. Does presentation matter though? When I say presentation in every form or fashion because you know how you be, you're raised to say that when you leave the house, dress appropriately because you don't know who you might run into that can get you to move to that next spot in life. But you see these you have girls, you have three girls. You see these young kids love to leave their house in their pajama pants and bonnets on their head. >> How do you get your kids not to do stuff like that? >> Leave their ass at home. >> Yeah, I'm right. [laughter] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, you're right. or start taking them somewhere where they look like that and be like, "All right, come on. Let's go." You know what I mean? >> Cuz they don't care. They'll do it like >> until we get around some until we go downtown or we down somewhere where like you can't take no pictures or nothing to show where you've been at to put on your Instagram because you got this bonnet on and some slides and >> you know what I mean? So like I'll either leave them or I'll put them in a situ and it's really only one, but I'm going to say them for the sake. So [laughter] get upset when she see she knows. >> Wow. 2018 55 project. You did that. Uh what was what was that about? Let's talk about 70 songs >> that was coming out of that depression. >> Yeah. Okay. >> All right. So, you you had a lot to say. >> A lot. I had a lot to say and I had a lot of music that had just been sitting accumulating for all that time. So, I saw an opportunity to have the largest urban music project in urban music history and I took it. >> Wow. Working. How did you end up linking with like Lil John and uh MGK, you know? >> Well, let's do Lil John first. >> Yeah. Lil So, Lil John and MGK. So, I was on freshman uh the WSL freshman cover with MGK. Okay. Okay, >> it was me, MGK, French Montana, Future Mammore, Iggy, Aelia, Hopson, Don, Trip, and somebody else too. I think I forget. Danny Brown. >> Okay. Okay. >> Um, and so like a lot of those relationships form from that because when we're in them dressing rooms, like it's kind of like seeing a star on TV like you, you know, BT and MTV were still doing their thing, so you see a lot of videos and the labels was pushing a lot of video content at that time. So when we run into these people, it's an opportunity for us to be in the locker room before the game and like get to know each other a little. Oh, that [ __ ] you did the other day was fine. D we like mingling and mixing and stuff like that. So that's where the relationships formulated at. And then um when I started working on 2.0, which was like my it was really supposed to be my album, but because of the label stuff that I had going on at that time, this is where the leak came in. They cut my they cut my uh my album down to a EP. I submitted like 20 songs. They put out seven because seven I was on my my last I had a five minimum due two deal for that 360. And so I was on my second album and um I would have been up for renewal. Like I could change my contract or do whatever. So I could have got them admin rights back. See what I'm saying? So they cut it to a EP to give me half the credit. Yeah. And so I was like, "Oh, bet. That's what y'all going to do and y'all going to like take all my songs out. I'm going to leak these songs." And that's what got me out of my deal with Intercope. Intercope was like, "Oh, it's it's some friction going on here." I told them what was going on with the pub stuff and they was like, "We don't want no smoke with that. So we'll let you go and then whenever you want to come back, you're more than welcome. We'd love to have you." You know what I'm saying? So that's how the leak happened and that's how the MGK thing and Lil John thing happened too. >> I met MGK and Nipy at the same place at the counter at the Palms Hotel. I'm always at the Palms. [clears throat] I told you. And I don't I be tripping on [ __ ] I just start talking, you know, like we doing now. I was like, man, y'all ain't working. You ain't It wasn't at the same time. Two different time. I don't know what me and MG MGK said. >> He's different, bro. He >> We didn't really We just talk. I don't even know what we talking. >> I knew he was a star when I first met him. I'm not going to lie. I knew it because he was just doing We had like >> He seemed like he a dope dude, man. >> Yeah. It was just the stuff he was doing. Like it just taught me how to be more abstract. And I might not have done it in the same way that he was doing, but he would like literally stand up on the furniture. Like he'll be talking to the CEO of XXL and they'll walk in and be like, "Hey, we're going to give him the pres the rundown of what's going to happen today." And he'll be talking to her on top of the counter walking around like, "Yeah, I think we should do such and such such and such." And then maybe his own world, >> but it makes people remember, hey, this kid is wild, man. Who this dude is standing on the furniture in here. >> You got to stand up. You got to stand up. >> He knew he know the game just like But that's nothing new. That's just like Gib or or or like I told you about Andre 3000. They all knew that. That's my Mount Rushmore right there. >> They all know. >> You should have heard when old boy told me we booed his ass. The one I was talking to, he said we booed his ass off state. I was tightening him up. We were hugging. You know what I'm saying? >> Yeah. Yeah. [laughter] Yeah. That's good. I love that. Yeah. Get them together. Can't do that. >> So, so we just It's just a thing where man, man, I I love the South. I love what we got going down here and um love what you got. The work, the hard work and dedication. Why you and um you and Jermaine Depri never linked up down there? >> It's funny cuz I just started bumping into Jermaine where it's like the universe want that to happen. I just started like bumping into him and he down there. Yeah, he down there. >> He's down there. >> At first I thought I ain't going to lie. Damn. I should see this how this [ __ ] be happening. At first I thought he was upset with me a little bit because I didn't get to the magic. I didn't want the Magic City [ __ ] but I was really upset because he didn't mention me in that Magic City documentary. And I'm like, "Bro, I got one of the biggest songs in >> ever." >> And you was the little heart a little hurt behind it. >> Yeah, I was a little pride hurt. >> Yeah. just just a tad >> like I did my thing and it was big for you for Jermaine to say something about you because you know you look up to him as a one of the ones I used to I used to open them booklets up and go to that record >> and when he didn't say your name you like what the >> I'm like damn [ __ ] ain't even going to ask me to come talk about Magic City and I'm from Atlanta and I got one of the biggest songs ever. I got a few of the biggest Atlanta strip club songs ever made. Like that's crazy to me. >> Well, did you try to holl at him? >> No, I bumped it into him. We >> No, I'm talking about No, you should have checked this. No, it was cool though. No, no. That's what I do. Like, like I'm not letting you make it. >> That's the problem with y'all. Y'all too damn uh uh want to be I don't know what this is, but uh uh uh no, what's up? You know, >> you know, and he in a nice way like I'm that guy like and he probably would have laughed and said, "You are that guy." But you you don't you won't know now because you didn't say nothing. And I don't like that because you did have the biggest song. You did do those hooks. And it's like, okay, why you ain't say nothing? >> Mhm. >> He probably would say the same thing. Why you ain't say nothing? You should just say something. [laughter] >> I was going to chase him down and get on them. >> No, you say something. Did they have DM? They had Instagram, didn't he? >> Yeah, but you know, they ignore you ignore you, man. Say the other [ __ ] [laughter] I'm going say this too, right? Like, >> go ahead. >> Yeah, cuz a lot of y'all people, bro, I be I'm I'm a down to earth guy, bro. Me, bro. But I'll be still chill though. You know what I'm saying? So, I'll reach out. I'll be commending people. I'll be like, "Yo, I really enjoy this." I do be doing that. So, y'all need to check your DMs cuz if I see y'all and y'all try to get me with the with this one when I already did that one, not going >> No, no, no. What he's saying is and I'll put it in layman terms, man. Y'all [ __ ] need to stop, dog. Straight up. [laughter] >> You have you gotten over it? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> By Jermaine. >> Yeah, that [ __ ] at the uh at the uh >> I know he seen it, but he didn't say nothing. He didn't >> I didn't tell him about this, but I feel like as I turn up and do like at the end of the day, I'm a firm believer and that's between them and God. that revelation later on. I ain't going to never complain about it. He's still a legend in my book. He did a lot for the city, bro. Like a lot. I wouldn't even be able to do what I'm doing if he didn't do it first. You know what I'm saying? So, like I understand and respect that. >> At the same time, I have done a lot, too. You know what I'm saying? I'mma keep doing stuff. So, when it's time for us to do that, he'll be like, "You know what, bro? You're right. I should have been D." And I'll be like, "I probably should have did this, too, but let's get to it now. I'm cool with that." And it's good. >> Wow. Did you go ahead go ahead and let you ask a question? I'm I'm >> You mentioned God a lot in your conver conversation, right? >> Tell me about a time. Okay. How old were you when you found God for yourself? I'm not talking about >> I'm 2. >> Okay. >> Six. >> 26. What did you go through to find him? What happened? >> Oh my god. Boy, I went through so many bad relationships. Not even just with chicks, but just like relationships in general. Just like it was just an influx of just >> get by yourself. Like I was just being isolated, I felt like. And so I felt like that was my I went through like a whole year of like celibacy and I started reading this book called God's Promises for Men and it just reminded me of like the stuff that my grandma was my great-grandma was teaching uh back in the day too and I'm like damn you know what I really got away from God. I can't remember the last time I said my prayer. I couldn't even remember it or none of that [ __ ] at the time. You know what I'm saying? So it just made me want to put some attention on that. >> And once I did, he started >> building. Yeah. >> And you realize I don't need to step away. >> I'm never doing that again. My bad. Handcuffed me. But I'm good. >> Let me ask you this. There's been a lot of fallen soldiers from down there. DJ Young, u shoot man, shorty low. Uh um man, I'm just thinking of some of the ones that just recently uh like I said, Rich Homie Quan Scooter >> Young Scooter when you see Big >> uh Bigger Rank, but just seeing all these guys, fallen soldiers that you came in the game, seeing doing their thing, man. How does that affect you? Uh again, mentally just, you know, uh when you look at this, you're like, man, >> it just make me want to just stay aligned. Like the most important thing that I have in my life outside of my kids is my alignment with God. That's just how I feel about it. I talk to him every day, multiple times a day or whatever. You know what I mean? So, I think the more that I do that, um the more I'm going to be aligned with purpose, whatever that is. You know what I mean? So, >> wow. When you think about um uh Waka Flocka, you and him got together and y'all did that hit and W. What I mean, first of all, do you guys still maintain a relationship? >> Yeah. Yeah, I talk to both of them. >> Both of them all the time. And and I mean, are y'all y'all thinking about doing something else or y'all never working? >> It's just hard to get everybody on the same >> I don't know if they even care about music no more. It's because these guys didn't got that money, dog. >> No, dog. These [ __ ] done got that money. Right. >> He [ __ ] got lazy, bro. >> Yeah. Well, I just had a son, too. So, >> he got that money. Yeah. Yeah. Y'all heard about it. I right here close by. I heard about it. You know what I'm saying? I'm just I'm real close to the streets. I just don't say nothing. I'm listening. >> For sure. >> But I'm just saying like like uh uh that money came in hard, man. Coming in hot. >> He was young, too. [laughter] >> So, so, so did you ever link with Gucci during that time? Cuz >> Yeah, we just never did no Did I do a song with Gucci? >> Ever since that happened with Poo Shist, you don't forgot him. No, just [ __ ] is a trip, my [ __ ] You know what I'm saying? >> I think WE DID. I KNOW THE [ __ ] EVEN BE AT THE CLUB. WAS I WAS THERE WITH HIM? NO, [ __ ] You were >> we did a song or not? Like >> never did. >> But I think I did do some stuff for him. It just didn't come out. But we ain't got a song that's out. So yeah. >> Well, you got one with Chris Brown. You said you threw that slug. >> That's you. Where is that one at? Throw that one to me. I'm going show you the D about that. Talk to Pol. It exists though for sure. So you never heard it no more since then? >> No, since I like right after I left >> PT he flipping and he forgot all about that damn song. >> Now that I'm mentioning it, it'll it'll probably resurface to some. But yeah, it's a record out there. I got one with Acon and stuff, too. I got a few records with Aon. >> Which Acon though, you know. >> That's funny as hell. >> It's a bunch of Acon [ __ ] Acon that was getting the oil and stuff over in Africa. The first Acon, the [ __ ] that I'm locked up a go get the money in in Africa. Acon >> and the divorce Acon. It's a bunch of Acon. >> I talked to Khan last week actually. >> Okay, so there's three or four phases. We got to be real. >> That's funny. >> I love Acon, man. I love it. I love it. I love his tonality, his voice. Uh, man, T pay. You did one with T pay. I've seen that, too. You got one in the queue right now with T Pay. That's crazy. >> You and T pay cool. >> Yeah, that's my dog. I ain't going to lie. I'm going tell you, the first time I got when I when he first uh linked up with Antares to put the autotune out, bro, we spent the next three days in the studio. I wanted to beat T pay so bad. That's Yes. >> Really? [laughter] >> This [ __ ] T Paint had it going, didn't he? >> I'm like, the new the new T pay just dropped, bro. We got to I [ __ ] the streets today, bro. We going in here to do this. >> Okay. Was Was you influenced when Jay-Z say you T painting too much? >> Nah, that was just part of that's part of I'm asking. I'm just asking. To me, that was to me that was like that was spotlight to me. That was like spotlight. You know what I'm saying? Now, I've never been a fan of like outside of C Pain, I've never been a fan of like the overly computerized auto like the kids nowadays is killing me with that. I can't do it. Right. But Payne is such a a creator, bro. He got so many. I went to see him at the masquerade one time, bro. Holmes got like almost more records than the Beatles, bro. >> Really? >> He just dropping them hoes. >> I'm just like, damn, this [ __ ] got a lot of songs, bro. Crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy, >> man. And I I think you know when you look at these guys, man, like yourself and like him, you guys, that's why you was able to put all them damn songs out like that. Y'all just in your artist bag like you treating it like a damn sport, ain't you [ __ ] You like sport. It is a sport, bro. >> So, so, okay. So, the new album, what is the name of this new album that you got coming out? >> Can't catch the Lambo 2. >> Can't catch the Lambo Too. Let Explain to me that title, bro. So my origin story when I first became Rosco Dash, this is like when all the way turned up came out, show out uh maximum. This is like when I first went on that run with K. My project was called Can't Catch the Lambo. So it's basically just like an elevated lifestyle of like being free and being creative and just like also how I'm able to blend luxury and sport together like even in my music. You know what I'm saying? So that's like the blend you hear of R&B and rap or that's like the blend of uh futuristic and what I did for Marvin Gan Shard or whatever. So all of these sounds that I've been ushering in through other people or whatever are on this project. It's like my my universe of that where they came and got us. >> I mean >> I know I I heard you talk about your brother before he passed. He were producing. >> Uh did and you start producing. Was he the one got you kind of in there? >> Yeah. I wanted to do everything he was doing. I was going to steal his Christmas presents and play his video games first and then put them back in the box. All that. >> What is something that sticks out to you about your brother that you can remember that you miss about him? Um, probably just, you know what's funny? Actually, he put me on um, Lil John and the East Side Boys one, but this Jeezy era when Jeezy wave first came in, he kind of put me on that. We used to go to the record store and stuff together. So, my ad libs, like all my people love me for my ad libs and all that stuff, but I really got that from like how much he enjoyed ad libs of like the people who he was listening to and stuff. So, whether that was like the what Okay, from Lil John or the Yeah. He used to come literally go stick his head in my room like in my room and be like, "Let's get it." He used to just do [laughter] like that. So like it just made me understand like oh the music is like it can be used like this too. It's not just for listening to like it's something that you can experience. It becomes a part of your lifestyle almost. >> You know what I'm >> saying? But I got a question about that too. Um I remember hearing when you said um whenever he left you went and you went on his computer and you recorded yourself. >> How many times did you do that before he finally caught you? all the time. >> What did he say to you when he get beat up? Just beat you up. >> Yeah, literally like I had to learn how to fight from that. Yeah. [laughter] >> Did you ever mess anything up? Because going on the computer, you didn't know how to use any of that stuff that he was doing. >> Yeah, I did mess up some stuff probably a couple times. >> Delete something by accident. >> Yeah. But I learned I learned the importance of >> like he would be mad at me, but I think that he understood that I was just being inquisitive, too. You know what I mean? And I really just wanted to learn and just like that was our way of like bonding and [ __ ] We played basketball together till he was left-handed. I was right-handed. We're both Aries. His birthday's on the 24th. minds on a second like we're like >> just 10 years apart. You know what I'm saying? So like >> and uh he went to go like fight overseas. He went to Kuwait and Afghanistan. He went through like a phase of like experiencing life in the same different capacity that I ultimately went through just not in the same space. You know what I'm saying? So just like a culture shock of like you thought you were going to do this and you end up doing that and then you got to bring it back home and land the plane. You know what I'm saying? So >> um yeah. >> Yeah. He had he had five kids actually before he passed away. >> So you always look out for him. >> Yeah. So we I got, you know, >> I got eight kids now. >> That's right. That's it. That's it. And I love that about you, brother, >> man. RP to your brother, man. WLTP with Bobby Critical. When this is on the new project. >> Yeah, we like to play. >> Talk to me about that. >> So, um, you know, when I did the Metro Boom and Futures Summer, the first record that they put out was Slide, which was like a different tempo. Like people was like, "Who is this?" And they found out it was me and it just became like an infectious thing that like is still getting hits today, right? Mhm. >> And so to me, I wanted to just keep continuing to like blend the genres. I think we're in a space for music where we take things that existed before and we create them in a new capacity. You know what I mean? Like so, >> um, this is like my hybrid of that. Like I wanted to bring back bounce music. I wanted to bring back the freaknick era in a sense and just teach people how to have fun again. Cuz a lot of these kids nowadays, the shy kids, the the the Yans, they weren't outside like that. They ain't had no water gun fights. They ain't ride bikes. They didn't do none of that. They ain't build their own go-kart out of a lawn mower. They ain't do, you know what I'm saying? So, we going to teach them how to get outside and just enjoy themselves. >> Wow. What are you going to do to to make your brand stand out in this climate we're in today? >> I think just being authentic. >> You see what I'm saying? Like for when I look at you, I I What's going to make me stay tuned in? I got so many other damn choices. >> No, for sure. 100%. >> I can go look at everybody right now. Slim Thug jumps on all the time. I watch him. Uh Booy, I watch him. Uh uh Finesse two times. I watch him. These are all the crazy thing that's going on. I'm giving you some real insight here. How are you going to get my damn attention? You see what I'm saying? I'm giving you some real This is what [ __ ] is doing every day on the internet. They looking at people's stuff. They are >> and and they and that that time that they all lot to that. Even boss talk. Y'all [ __ ] better stay t but cuz this is attention grabbing stuff we're doing. So how are you now? I'm serious. How is Rosco Dash, you know what I'm saying? Go make these [ __ ] stop and look like that. You know how [ __ ] see you, you know how [ __ ] you walk by, who that [ __ ] you know what I'm saying? How you gonna grab their attention? >> I grew up on Infectious Music, bro. I grew up I grew up on like the culture. So like I grew up on Brian Mcnite, Luther Van Draws, Gerald Lever. I grew up on Patty Leel, Deion War. I grew up on, you know what I'm saying? Like I can go my list is crazy. So like I think when you listen to my music, especially in this this go round, it's going to remind you of what infectious music is and what made you fall in love with music in the first place. You know what I'm saying? like you're going to hear it and be like this don't sound like nothing I heard the last 6 months or whatever. You know what I mean? Like this type of music ain't out. And I think that's where I won the first time is just by standing out like a sore thumb. None of my records sound like anything else that was out before that or after. You know what I'm saying? Like even when the people try to >> reenact or whatever. You know what I'm saying? So I'm just going to get back on get back to doing what God blessed me to be able to do. >> You know, it ain't nothing new. You know, I remember when Trinidad came out Trinidad James them ugly gold teeth and and you know what I'm talking about and it stopped the everything that were going on. gold all in my we it wasn't really the music were hidden but it was the look and all of that what I'm saying is to stop you know what I mean you know when when when uh when when certain people do certain things it's a it's a shock it's a I shocked them and I stopped it you know and that's what happens with a lot of different things so I think that's the climate we're in but how can we do it without sacrificing our integrity >> I think you build off >> you understand what I'm saying how can we do it and make it classy >> to where people can digest in our children can learn from 100%. >> You see what I'm saying? That's the goal. >> When you can figure that part out. >> Yeah. I got to make my seven-year-old to listen to it and not be like, "Dad, you saying bad words." >> Come on, man. >> You know what I'm saying? I got to make stuff that's still fun even though And you don't even realize I didn't cuss in the song or whatever. >> Words are powerful. >> Absolutely. >> Yeah. Absolutely. >> So, I got Okay, so here we go. >> I have this question. >> I already know. Did the South >> trivia >> take over hiphop in the 2000s because southern artists got better or because New York stopped producing stars that connected with the streets nationwide? >> That's a deep question right there. >> Well, New York didn't have it no damn way. It was on the West Coast. But I'm going to let you go on. >> I think that Atlanta particularly is a place that like evolves. Like we're like we're like evolving every day. You know what I mean? And we're not afraid to be different. We're the dance people. we'll wear the big t-shirts and jabbo jeans and then turn around and go skinny and go black boy, white boy. So like we're okay with doing different things whereas uh New York is such a melting pot. It has been a melting pot for just originality in terms of like or traditional originality I should say. You know what I mean? And just like all the beats are going to be like this because this is our culture of how we do things. Same way how when we go to Houston, we going to put the uh the swangers on and we going, you know what I mean? It's the same thing. When you go somewhere else, you're never going to hear the music that you hear everywhere else in that space. They got their own thing. So I think that's what happened. It's like New York stopped evolving in that space before the the drill came out or the Whoopde or the Pop Smoke sound or whatever. It took a while. It was a long gap between Jim Jones balling in that, you know what I'm saying? Like to me, in my opinion, and I think we just kept evolving even in our records that weren't as good. You know what I mean? Like we still weren't afraid to fail in terms of just keep getting our creative energy out. >> I I I remember all that happening. And when you it's funny you say those names. South still was mean always >> the South was still holding as we say it was still holding meaning it's just going to make us get more great it's something about down here the ancestors you know they speaking from the graves [ __ ] you know what I'm saying that's valid and and and everybody up there came they came from down here so it's really speaking it it it's where it supposed to be anyway and at the end of the day you got to respect it and and that's all it is man and if we can figure out a way to unify as a people in the music. I love to see it overall just take, you know, but that unity thing is tough for us. We've been having problem with that for many years. >> But why? >> Because you [ __ ] always trying to be confrontational. >> Yeah. Be all you egotistic edging God out. Edging God out, bro. >> Just steadily. It's about I don't It's all about how I want to do it instead of working together. I'm telling you, you know what I The moment I stopped getting in that driver's seat every day and steer, bro, is when my life start chang. When I start getting that second run, when I got the B. >> Anybody ever tell you going to be a preacher? I hate when people do me like that. [laughter] [laughter] >> He asked the question. >> I hate when people do me like that, bro. I know they get you. They get you. They be like, "Man, you could be preaching." I don't really I don't look at Tylen position to guarantee positivity. So I I just But you just hitting me with so much, you know, spiritual stuff, you know what I mean? Loving God and it's like and I I love that. That mean you've been beat down. You went through your three days of dying. You don't want me to go there. It'll be over. Y'all be like, "Whoa." You know, [laughter] everybody crying getting their napkins out. I got the napkins right here. [ __ ] don't play. But at the end of the day, man, I just know that you when it come down to the music, you met Soulja Boy. You You and Soulja Boy didn't I used to get him hell at the shows, man. Funny. >> That's my dog, man. I love Soulja Boy. >> I just ran him a couple weeks ago, too. >> No, no, no. I'm like I'm I'm like a Soulja Boy uh dude. Like every time he cut up, I love it because I love people like that, too. >> I love it. I just love it. That's how he stopped doing that. >> My daddy. [laughter] >> So, how did you and him link to do the uh which one was y'all? Y'all did turned up. How did y'all >> K actually made that happen for me? Shout out to K. So I really went down to Vald Dasta when the when the whole boom thing happened and I ended up in a situation. Boom. I really was going down there to work with K on the track because I grew up watching Spit Your Game and he was like one of the hottest producers at the time that like I wanted to go work with. So when I got the opportunity to do that the first time was with the Porters with Travis Porter. But then they called me back like a week or so afterwards and asked me if I wanted to come down and do my own stuff. And so this is where the origin of the original can't catch the Lambo came too because we started working on some music and he was like you know what first of all we need to get this record the world to know this record is yours. So, what I'm going to do is we're going to take them off this record, reproduce it. This is partly Boom's idea, too, cuz he'd be thinking about >> giving that [ __ ] some credit. No, cuz he's This is This is the same This is the same like a good interview now. >> Same. Yeah. >> Yeah. It's got some credit. >> He was like >> He was like, "We're just going to take him off the song and we going to get Soulja Boy on the song or something like that." I think maybe it came up in the K was like, "I can call Soldier and send it to him. He'll love to get on this." And he sent this. Soulja Boy sent the verse back in 45 minutes. Literally. >> Wow. Swear >> Soulja Boy was on it, wasn't he? >> He was on it. And so so when you looked at at that you did you like what he sent you back? >> Yeah. Hell yeah. I was like man I got a verse boy but it's crazy. >> How was it when y'all first met Mick? >> First time meeting him was at I think Beats he ripped the runway. >> Okay. >> And it was really cool. He's always been like the same like when he seen me and he go laugh like that [ __ ] start laughing like >> like it's just like but I learned like from my from my peers. I'm an Aries so like we play off of the energy that we're around and stuff like that a lot. You know what I'm saying? So like I learned how to be like a star from being around stars that were receptive. Now I had experiences where people weren't as receptive and tried me too and I had I had to delete all this [ __ ] off my iPod but >> yeah jail >> yeah I just been like that erase >> them immediately. Um, but for the ones who didn't do me like that, we're still cool to this day. And I appreciate them just for even allowing me in a space to do that cuz some people will see somebody and know they got some some flare to them and be like, "No, I don't want to." You know what I mean? Cuz they might feel threatened by that or whatever. But not my not my partners. >> Sometimes people want to get to be a part of that cuz they lose their buzz too. So it's it can go either way. But when you look at Soulja Boy, that's my dog. I told you that. >> And he really like helped invent the internet. >> Bro, let me tell you something. That [ __ ] got I still got some sod money gang shirts in this hole. Yeah, >> I still got some Palms hats in this hole right now. I always supported my people. If you had some, I had it. If it was uh two chains CEO uh clothing line, if it was any picture you see on there with Jewel House with Booy, I supported our people. Uh Black Pyramid with Chris Brown. Uh Tiaku, I I sold this stuff for the last 20 years here. I always brought our people stuff in here. I always would talk to them. These pictures on the wall, me and Rocco, all these people, this stuff represents the culture. Yes. And and and the clothing that they the work that they done. If they weren't working, I wasn't on no picture with them. They had to be doing something. You know what I mean? That that added to the the culture and that's how you get bossed off really. Like I'm just like that anyway. >> That's hard. >> So that's the way it go. So just why you didn't have no clothing line or nothing out back then too? Actually, >> no, I'm talking back then, [ __ ] Don't try to act like that. >> Booming 360. What you want me to do? >> God damn, man. 720 not even 36 20 25% of the front end the back end >> you couldn't get no SHIRT YOU LIKE I AIN'T see you at was at magic that's how me and him kept meeting you wasn't there >> somebody was probably there on my behalf [laughter] go ahead you got something >> which movement had the biggest impact on the south >> here we go >> Atlanta's crunk snap error Houston chopped and screwed movement or New Orleans cash money Now, >> boy, that's a hard that's a hard lick she hitting him with. Boy, that [ __ ] boom. She hit him in the stomach. Boom. >> And the first one was the This first one was crunk. >> Crunk. >> Okay. >> Screw. >> Uh-huh. >> Or um Cash Money. >> Damn. >> Boy, you from You Georgia. >> Well, I know, but I got to be honest, though. >> You run your ass up. You won't make it back. Transparency. >> You going to limp back? >> I'm going I'm I ain't going to lie, bro. I'm going cash money. >> Oh, really? >> I'm going cash money. >> Me, too. Cuz they [laughter] No, I ain't going to lie to you. I'm going a style, [ __ ] Yeah, I can't go there. I'm not doing that with you. >> He's being totally transparent, though. >> No, he ain't being transparent. That [ __ ] look [ __ ] >> No, he ain't No, he ain't being transparent, man. That is okay. Why? >> Because you're telling me that's better than the screw. >> You can't just say because now the screw movement cuz y got y'all got more longevity than any of the answers. So, that real answer would be if we're talking longevity, it would be the chop the screw era cuz you still get that now to this day. That's still all of those music. >> Yeah, 100%. But I'm just saying as far as like being a fixture in music, like Cash Money in them, don't get me wrong. We love Wayne. We love Juvenile on them, but they're not a thing thing in its totality in the form we received it in since inception. You see what I'm saying? But Chopped and Screwed is still in its full totality. Kunker is already a thing of the past, too. >> Chopped and screwed is always going to be a thing. >> Wow. That [ __ ] there been, boy, that [ __ ] watch a lot of damn Instagram, YouTube, and stuff. Do you think screw >> is always a thing because DJ Screws passed on so he made it live on? >> Probably. Yeah. I think just I think because it's so embedded in the culture. So yeah, that would come from the groundwork that he put down for sure. You know what I mean? But I think that like it's about the longevity. It's about outlasting the other stuff, you know what I mean? Or what's going to be around and embedded for the longer duration of time. No, I I agree with you. Uh that that that this whole movement is is serious, man. So So how who did you first tap into in in the screw era? >> Um honestly, I got my first pair of twelves back when like Lil Kiki was out. I'm not going to lie. >> Yeah. So that I forgot the name of the song, but it was the one song uh with the snaps and I can't remember the name of the [ __ ] >> Man. That [ __ ] had a bunch of them, dog. He the creepy that that he got the most samples, man. like nobody got more samples JBL Rock >> No, but the first time you heard about that >> I did but I like the I like the chop of it and then the other thing too remember when this is another reason why I say that that Chopped and Screw will live forever too because remember T pay did that song Chopped and Screwed and did the song even though it wasn't broken down like pitched down like Chopped and Screwed it made it outside of Texas because there's somebody in Tallahassee that's doing this [ __ ] you know what I'm saying and just riding around with the same type of cars y'all got except they got dunks and instead of you know what I Like it's the same >> the culture made it all the way outside of where where it originated from me. That's that's like going diamond. You know what I'm saying? Like it's like >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Them boys they they >> I thought it was weird the first time I was like >> I did too. She Jamaican. I think a lot of stuff we went over there. >> Yeah. That's probably what that's probably matter. It was >> Oh, it definitely I like that part. I like that. >> Well, I mean uh man DJ Screw man OG run see Michael Watts. All them boys. Yeah, >> listen man. RP to Michael Wise. But it's like you can't deny what happened man. Pimp C man. Diamonds and wood. Bun B man. Stop playing bro. Like you you know what it is like when it come down to you know this whole thing. My [ __ ] Big Tuck. [ __ ] stop playing. When you screw it down it's a whole different world. >> That's what I'm saying. That's [laughter] what I'm saying. >> I would appre I feel like you didn't make it if you didn't have a version of whatever project you just put out. If it didn't have a chop the screw version that was just created from by some random user, user number 98764 or whatever. Like if it ain't no chop the screw version of your [ __ ] >> it was like that. >> But then you got to think about it. That was eras also going on with uh Little John them when when they did their thing the hy part with party them like it was so many we you guys are so talented. You got to think about it. It's a lot man. >> You can talk about some and isolate them but you really >> you really going to miss something because we got talented ass folks man. And everybody in the world mimic it every you think about it. you had now. But now and yes, 100%. I was going to say that cuz we we did a lot of uh overseas tour. Me and Fly did a lot of like uh Japan stuff, Germany, all stuff. But the thing about Japan is it's like you know what they listen to by how they dress cuz they're going to dress like however stuff. They listening to dub CN, they going to have on a Dicky suit with some Cortezes. If they got if they listen to, you know what I'm saying? Like you're literally going to see it's wild. Like they know the words verbatim. I'm talking about don't miss a beat. They >> speak English but love it. >> Yes. >> Wow. >> Yeah. That's heavy, man. That is so that's really heavy, bro. Like, so when it come down to it, man, tell me when when you think about just >> all the stuff y'all had going cuz it ain't going like it was. What is Atlanta now? What are we looking at here? Is it is it you? Come on now. Let's be real. I'm looking [snorts] at what I'm looking at. Peewee Long Way got locked up. Uh it's a lot of people. Uh uh Gucci, you know, he rich now. >> We losing a lot. >> No, he rich. Jeez. He wearing suits in at the symphony. Now, now let's be real. Crazy, right? >> Let's be real. Jesus is at the symphony now. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> You know, he not he don't he don't talk about the Yeah. the way he used to come do it. Can trail plate. He don't know nothing about that. He ain't at a cantrell plate. And so, man, [ __ ] ain't been over there in a long time, man. >> That's very true. >> SO, SO WHAT WHAT'S UP WITH THE MUSIC, MAN? >> WELL, >> here's the thing. Like, Atlanta's always going to find a way to be Atlanta. Like, that's one thing I know. Even when we don't know what the hell going on, like in a short minute, it's gonna it's gonna you gonna know exactly what's going on. And my short minute, I know my [ __ ] gonna drop. So, I'm gonna be I'm it's gonna be like it need to be. But this is how it was before it was wide open before, too. So, I'm just I'm just excited to >> be in this position. >> Got a hell of a rep over there, y'all. Now, before people telling it, it's a lot of stuff I let I'm letting you make it. We going to get away from you. I I ain't saying you was. I'm just saying it's a lot. I ain't You ain't saying this. I'm saying this funny. You know what I'm saying? It's a lot going on over there right now. You know what I'm saying? We know it. We ain't going to talk about it. I know you over here. You know, you don't want to be a part of that. I'm cool with that. But it's a lot going on. People got on sale phones a lot in the jail. >> Dude, one of my partners in Atlanta right now, um, he just posted, I guess yesterday, I think, two-way pages is back. >> No, we going to get off the phones. Yeah, I swear. He has the largest collection of like >> I want to talk to that [ __ ] cuz I want my people back. I've been want my pager back. I've been want my Bieber back. You call the pager. I call the people. [ __ ] where that [ __ ] at? I give me his number. I want two of them. One for her and one for me. No cell phone sometimes, honestly. See, now we're starting to wake up a little bit. I think like we're starting to learn like, okay, that probably wasn't a good idea to just be, you know what I mean, doing this for however long. So, I think we're going to get back to um a lot of things that existed before, but just in a new facet or a new capacity. I can see. But then the way how social media is and everybody is trying to make money on social media and it's so fast to have it on your phone and do work cuz a lot of times yeah I have my computer and my iPad but a lot of times it's quicker for me to grab my phone and work on the go and stuff like that. So it's like I can't help but be on the phone. I'm on the phone for work more than anything else >> not really to talk. >> Yeah. I think all that's going to change too. >> I think we'll get a new social media. I think we'll get a new way to use phones. I think like all this stuff is like coming up soon. >> I got this question for you. Okay. So in your career it says you came in towards the ends of 2000 when Atlanta was changing again. >> Do you believe artists from your generation including you Travis Porter Waka Flocka and others >> were the bridge between the Kunk Snap era and the melodic Atlanta sound that dominates hip-hop today? And if so who hasn't gotten their proper credit? >> Oh that's great you looking at them. [laughter] It's you, huh? >> It's me. It's me. But yeah, I think we are the bridge though. For sure. >> I think we're the bridge. >> You are the bridge between those eras. >> I think so. Yeah. I think so. Because we had Black Boy, White Boy. We had the uh Oh, let's do it, which was not black. It Waka was like it's like in each person was representing an era of music at the same time simultaneously. It's how I look at it. So like Waka was like Lil John and the East Side Boys and Crunch, but he had a little bit of Gucci in them too because he came from that camp, right? Boom. Then you got like the black boy white boy which is more like outcast dungeon family because they were the ones that were abstract. You see what I'm saying? So all these things were existing in the same space just and and then I'll be like the kilo Ali or whatever. You know what I'm saying? I'll be that. I'll be like the person who added the melody to the club over 808s and stuff like that. So all these things just existed at the same time simultaneously. And now we're getting to a place where these things are starting to revert. But the kids that are that are in charge or the kids that are having the opportunity to be those ones now to be where we were all those years ago, they don't have the same equipment that we had. You know what I'm saying? Like now they're dumbed down because they on their phones all the time. Now they're super trendy because they're following people versus being the trends setters and being the ones to cut the mohawks and go to Abberrombie and Fitch as a black man and go buy some clothes or whatever. You know what I'm saying? So like they don't have that same flare to them. I feel like that was the best dance era out of all of the dances >> then during that time the 2000s because >> I think they dance more cuz the dances now are more Tik Tok dances and whatever. I'm like that's not >> jazz. No, let's keep going back. I'm from the old school. We used to do the chic. We used to do the the prep. The We used to pray. You know what I'm saying? The chic. You just throw your hand that way. [laughter] >> Uhhuh. [screaming] Uhuh. >> Yes, sir. Oh, we did the Gucci. Just throw your hand and just let that just roll down your man. Y'all didn't know. And we did and we did we did that. We did the Gucci. It was a Gucci dance, too. You didn't You were too young. No, you had to go down and do it. Or the Pee-Wee Herman. We had the Peewee Herman. So, you can't just think [laughter] about one era. No, [ __ ] The Peewee Herman was a error, man. Y'ALL CAN'T JUST TAKE it and make it about y'all time. It's phases. They had to They had error, man. They did [laughter] the mashed potato when my mama and them were living. >> So, you know, you got they the organ stuff was the best. >> They wore tom walkers and they had bell bottoms on just like they wearing now. Y'all calling them uh flare pants or what's them long ones they doing? Same thing. They were doing stack stack pants. Same thing. So, you trying to act like you coming up with something new, but the word of God said ain't nothing new under the sun. So, I believe that in the book of Ecclesiastics, I really believe y'all just doing the same thing. Y'all ain't cute. You [snorts] just doing your thing, but we seen it before. >> We already did that. >> But I'm cool with it because I love y'all. But don't think y'all doing nothing. You know what I'm saying? [laughter] >> Yeah. They start trying to phase us out too far. >> Yeah. Y'all doing Yeah. This is who we are. >> See, I'm I'm going to tell you where it came from. My mama's like that, too. My When I play some stuff on the radio or whatever, like whatever song I got as a sampling ship. Let me show you where the original CAME FROM. >> THERE YOU GO. She going to tell you. >> She know, don't she? >> She does. She love her music. >> There's an importance in always knowing where it came from. >> Absolutely. I agree. >> And giving honor where honor is due, >> man. Lotus Flower Bum, man. You wrote that? >> Absolutely. >> Okay. What was the first verse? See See, I catch [ __ ] in lies on here. It's okay. Lotus flower bum. >> I ain't write the hook. I ain't write the first verse, but I know >> that's what I thought. Well, what did you Who did you write? >> I wrote the uh the hook. >> You wrote that hook. >> I'm living a feeling when you dance for me. It's feeling like you need >> What made you write that? I just I'd be making my own little >> And how did he end up connecting with you to what motivated you? No, no, no, no. I'm trying to get to the bottom of it. >> It just it just it was what was going on in the moment like Okay. So, >> we we were in like a time where uh me and Wall were like super tight. We were like every day with it. You know what I'm saying? So, he happened to be at at my studio cuz we were trying to work on some records. We did like three records. >> Was y'all really cool? >> Like super cool. >> Super cool. So, you kind of got offended when K and I didn't even know who he was. >> Yeah. You know, but they'd be trying. >> No, I'm just saying. Yeah. you was offended. >> Or or the girl that streaming you that did that. >> She didn't know me. Yeah. She didn't know T. >> But sometimes people really don't [laughter] know these got the phone right here. >> But I streaming on the phone. >> You know what? There's I knew you I knew it hit you. >> That that's that's them. >> Let's go back to Lotus. I I [laughter] >> Lotus Plum. Okay. >> Uh we just happen to be in the studio uh working or whatever. We did like a few records. Shout out to Sydney Renee. She was there that day too cuz we did um My Type of Girl or some other record that we had too. But this record was originally called Fantasy. Okay. >> And so that's how I came up with the thing. And uh shout out to uh who made the beat? Jiren Howard made the beat. That was a beat I had just sitting in my email or something. And I wanted to just give like who I knew while I laid the beat before we did no hands is like who I tried to get him to be on Lotus Flower Bomb. Like I wanted the space for him to be his full authentic self. You know what I mean? So like with the same swag that we just came off of No Hands with like I still want to be in his bag cuz everybody I'm going tell you this. >> We all go through depression as [ __ ] creatives. You know what I'm saying? So, like I just wanted my boy to be good. I just wanted him to be straight. I wanted him to have some I wanted people to stop treating him like like they still do it to him to this day. They still try to kind of like write him off and like act like he's not the talent that he is. He's super poetic. He's super deep and intellectual and makes like different music that people he's carried a whole tri-state on his back for the last, you know what I'm saying? So, like you got to give my boy his like let him do his thing and he and he get down with the pen. >> So, I just want him to have a space to be able to do that. We talked about this after the last little shade room thing came up and I told him like when I did these records for you, bro, I wasn't doing these records to like be able to go talk and be like, "Hey, I wrote this record for so and so or so and so." Like I wanted the world to know how great you are. You know what I'm saying? Like we had conversations where he didn't he wasn't looking at himself like that. That's right. >> You know what I'm saying? I'm like, "Bro, you tripping." He's like, "Man, y'all just so I'm like, "Bro, you were that too. So, let's go figure out what's going what it's going to take for you to be able to feel like that about yourself when you look in the mirror." You know what I mean? Like we brothers, bro. >> So, um that's how the record came about ultimately. Shout out to Sam Clown Eater, too. He was in he was in there. He actually vocalized the original um Lotus Firebomb before Miguel got it. >> Wow. Yeah. So Miguel Yeah, he jumped on that track too. I think it was a dope track, man. Like I say, W dope artist, man. I've always respected him. Um you know, all the stuff he done. You know, you a lot of times people don't get they just do because of the way they they humble or the way they approach. He seemed like a person who kind of just a humble guy and um you know that's the whole game. You know, I'm getting people sending signals like you guys signals. >> I don't like No, just calm down. We got two more questions. [laughter] >> No, I enjoy I definitely enjoy you guys, man. And um I ain't going to hold you too much longer. Um top three artists of all time, dead or alive, any genre. >> Um I'm going to go Outcast. And I'm gonna say Outcast because they always try to split them up. I don't be liking that. >> Yeah. >> Um I'm gonna go, >> we said artist. I'm gonna go, man. I'm going Michael Jackson. >> There it is. There it is. You're not Chris Brown or Michael. Now, if we come Don't get I [laughter] deal with a lot. >> Yeah, I dealt with a lot for that. >> I'm just messing with you. >> Uh [laughter] I'm going go MJ and then I'mma go uh Damn. Who's my three? >> Uh I'm going go me >> already. I like that. Come on, man. Writing our story, >> man. Listen, man. I I'm I'm being I'm being rushed. Your people is telling me that it's time for you to go. Like I don't know where y'all going, but it better be damn important. [laughter] >> No, I appreciate y'all. >> No, man. I I definitely know, man. I love the fact, man. Shout out to you, man. And and and and I know um I'm going to be I'm I'm going to be seeing you again. I'm coming to your listening party. I got to now. You know, I play I played myself right into it. [laughter] >> Yeah, that [ __ ] funny. >> But I was going to come anyway. I just told a [ __ ] that. But anyway, man, I just Hey, Rosco. Thank you for coming on the show, man. We appreciate you. We love you, brother. >> Love y'all back, man. >> Man, it's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101, where the bosses talk. >> And we out, >> man. >> Yeah, we on Boss Talk 101. Yeah, we going to talk. We going to have fun. We be on fire. We be lit lit. It's a unique hustle. Peace.