Rick Ross GOES OFF on 50 Cent, Drake & Hip-Hop's Biggest Beefs | PBD #806
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In this episode of PBD #806, Rick Ross opens up about his personal evolution and the realities behind his massive success, revealing that despite owning a 54,000-square-foot Atlanta estate with amenities like a bowling alley and movie theater, he is currently navigating a midlife crisis. He explains that while material achievements such as his car collection and real wealth have brought him significant acclaim, true satisfaction now comes from challenging himself creatively rather than relying solely on past victories. This drive has led to the release of his new album, *Big Boy Back on the Throne*, scheduled for June 12th, which features collaborations with artists like Big X and DJ Khaled, marking a shift toward a heavier sound that reflects his desire to maintain control over his artistic legacy rather than chasing one-off hits.
Ross also addresses his complex relationships within the hip-hop industry, engaging in banter about his history with 50 Cent while dismissing Drake as merely a "minion" who lacks the stability of Ross's self-made career through Slip N Slide Records. He clarifies that he never felt targeted by 50 Cent but notes their strained current relationship stems from differing financial statuses and lifestyles, jokingly offering to let his rival wash his yacht despite these tensions. Furthermore, he defends his reputation against claims regarding Freeway Rick Ross, firmly stating that the former cult deprogrammer did not inspire his stage name due to legal battles or fabricated stories about daily earnings, emphasizing instead his own authentic hustle mentality which goes deeper than rap itself.
The conversation extends beyond music as Ross outlines his broader business ambitions and personal interests, including a goal to become a minority owner of the Miami Dolphins with 3% ownership stakes and partnerships involving Rap Snacks chips and Easy Field gas stations. He reflects on how he spent money immediately after hitting big with jewelry before focusing on real estate investments like his multi-million dollar Atlanta property where he has filmed over three dozen projects, while also sharing anecdotes about canceled Mount Kilimanjaro climbs due to health concerns and upcoming ACL surgery scheduled for June 11th. Ultimately, Ross concludes that true success requires a relentless work ethic prioritized over fashion or style, valuing the lessons of legends like Biggie and Tupac who taught him the importance of wealth and family while tragically dying young, all as he prepares to host his car show with up to 10,000 attendees later in June.
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You were a correctional officer for
what? 16 months, 17 months?
>> Nah, much less than that. But whatever
the story was, that part of my life,
they missed it. [music]
>> They missed it.
>> They're half a billion late, man.
>> So, I brought on Freeway Rick Ross. Was
he the reason why you named yourself?
>> He's a crackhead. What are you talking
about? Why would a crackhead inspire the
boss Rick Ross?
>> History with UN50. Is it better not?
>> That's a nice alley hoop you just threw
me. But
>> you going to take it or you going to
pass it back? I told you I'm a wimp
byama. This [ __ ] for
>> and a wimp. Yeah.
>> But nah homie wash. I took his younger
son fishing before.
>> This is when you guys were good.
>> I called him Bruce Lee. What
>> and 50 knew you're taking a fishing.
>> The important thing here is 50 Cent son
got to fish
>> at a great location. Star Island.
>> Miami has always been the spot. It's the
sunlight. It's the ocean. It's the
breeze.
The alkaline air.
>> You can keep selling it. By the way,
>> you throw me the alley hoop. [laughter]
I got you.
>> Hopefully one day I'll become a minority
owner in the Miami Dolphins.
>> Oh, really? The CFO is a good friend of
mine. Chris, text him right now.
>> Chris,
would you want to be actively involved?
>> What?
>> You think I'mma walk around and not be
involved? [laughter]
[screaming]
>> In ' 06, everybody was bidding for you.
>> It was a lot of people who understood my
direction. I just made it clear this
wasn't going to be regular. It's big boy
heavyweights. Rick Ross collaborations.
Shade is number one on the list. For her
to do a concert, all she has to do is
come out in a white gown, no shoes, and
just sit down Indian style.
>> If you're putting it out there, they're
probably going to reach out to you.
>> Oh my god. I would love to go get you a
cup of matcha.
[laughter]
>> Would you put Drake at your level?
>> Of course not. He's a minion.
>> You're not putting Drake at your level.
>> I can see it in your eyes. You might be
confused. PBD, come on now.
>> Yeah.
>> [laughter]
>> I catch your alleys. I'm telling you,
>> you can't be afraid of a response from a
minion.
>> Did you listen to Ice Man?
>> I listened to some of it. My engineer
was It was horrendous. This a
[ __ ] who always bringing up
Michael Jackson. Where the Billy Jean
at?
>> It's fair to say you guys won't be
collaborating anytime soon.
>> I don't know. Your son might want to go
fishing. [laughter]
>> Rick Ross in the house. How you doing?
>> Wonderful. Wonderful.
>> Yeah. This this this book of yours that
came out very different than the other
two. Very different.
>> Without a doubt.
>> Huh.
>> Without a doubt.
>> Yeah. It's it's a very obviously, you
know, from the outside when somebody
watches you, your your your song, your
hits, the stuff that you've had. But I
was not expecting for you to come out
and talk about a midlife crisis in this
book of yours that just came out. You
know,
>> why not?
>> Well, I mean, it it's good because it
relates to everybody. You know, a lot of
other people uh in business who go
through it, they watch someone like you
and they automatically think that you
have everything figured out for somebody
like you to kind of open up and be
vulnerable. It relates to everybody,
especially in business. But the part
that was the interesting thing for me,
100 car collection, is it true that you
got your driver's license at 45?
it it let's say okay when I was 15 you
get your little pre driver's license you
you know then you know you in high
school you get your license but my
license expired after high school and
I've never went and renewed them to you
know a few years ago
>> got it so you you did get the license at
15 16 but you didn't renew it
>> yeah in high school I did the little
driver's course boom they give you the I
forgot what they call
before your driver's license. You get
some [ __ ] [ __ ] like that.
>> You know what I'm saying? At 15. And
then at 16, yeah, driver's head. Boom,
boom, boom, boom, boom. And then, um, at
16, they gave me my license, but I never
renewed them. But I also went, you know,
a long time without driving. So,
>> a long time without driving. So, so
literally, you weren't driving.
>> Yeah, a long time. You know, I was using
drivers. You know what I'm saying?
>> So, you didn't need a driver's license?
>> I I didn't. That's what I felt like I
did. What was your first car, by the
way? What was the first car you ever
had,
>> man? RP to my grandfather. He gave me a
a 76
Caprice.
He knew he he he understood the love I
had for Chevys at a young age.
So, you know, he had a he had him a
little small collection, a little spot
where they used to work on cars at. So,
Yep. I had a two just like the blue one
right here. Yeah. 15 16
>> 15 16 years old. First car.
>> First car. Now, did you get your drive
and your, you know, competitiveness from
your grandfather? Was he one that was,
you know, also hustling or where did
that drive come?
>> He without a doubt was a hustler. He
was, he without a doubt, you know what
I'm saying? He was from Clarksdale,
Mississippi. And for you to have, you
know, automobile, motor shop or
something, you got to really be a
go-getter.
>> And And was he tough? Was it a close
relationship where he would toughen you
up or, you know, where did the toughness
come from? No, he was really he was
really softspoken and really just shared
that wisdom.
>> He really shared that wisdom.
>> What did he share with you at a young
age?
>> No, just a lot of different game. Told
me a lot of different stories. Just a
lot of different If you going to be
great, you got to be great. You know
what I mean? Just a lot of different
Okay, let me tell you like this. It was
you you could sit around and you would
hear stories like, yo, um they'll tell
you how
a big boy told them what they would do.
A lot of people, let's say if you was a
rich, you know what I'm saying? You
would put a piece of paper right there
on the floor, right? And if you you have
somebody come in, let's say if you
interviewing them for something.
>> Yeah.
>> And if they stepped over that paper,
they wouldn't even It's already done.
>> What does that mean?
>> That mean if I got to tell you to pick
that paper up,
>> you ain't on your aame.
>> Wow. Wow. So when you step into some
place, if you see that, you got to as
you go, you already
>> unbelievable.
>> Making moves.
>> Wow.
>> So that's that game you could get from
somebody. If you a youngster, if you 12,
15 years old and you listening to
somebody that's 60, that's the type of
game you get and that's what I absorbed
and that's what I apply to the way I
hustle now.
>> When did you know you were special? When
did you know you had something special
in you? Shh.
>> How early? Like you knew something was
different about you? You know, it wasn't
too early because I at first I had to
accept my weaknesses.
You know, when I first was in school, I
I damn near could remember the first day
when they gave us a paper and pencil and
we was tracing the letters. You know, I
would be A, B, and C.
>> Mhm.
>> I remember looking around when everybody
else understood the instructions,
the whole class, everybody else tracing
the letters A, B, and C. And I was
looking around like, damn,
I missed all of this. So that's what I
had to deal with the first beginning of
my life. Okay, I'm not good at math. I'm
not this. Okay, my strengths are
reading. And I love films. I love
showing me something on the screen
versus listening to this man talk in
front of me. I have nothing in common
with these people
>> in school.
>> In school.
>> And what grade? How early was that?
>> [ __ ] First grade.
>> Oh, wow. I knew it was a problem then.
>> So who now who is feeding confidence
into you? Cuz you're very confident.
>> My mother. Yeah. My mother.
>> What would she say to you? How how did
she develop the confidence?
>> They don't understand you, William. They
don't understand you. [laughter]
>> I'm talking about the whole school
telling me you don't need to be in
public schools.
>> She's telling you this.
>> No. The school, the principles,
everybody else, you know, the people
they send to your house to sit down and
talk with your parents and try to tell
them it's something wrong with this
individual. and she's saying, "No,
you're wrong."
>> And you would see this exchange she's
having with them.
>> Yeah. I've sat in the, you know, of
course, multiple times.
>> And I would watch her defend me.
>> You know who else was like that? The
documentary of Kanye. When you watch the
role his mom played, his mom was also
big on developing confidence in him as
well. I don't know if you saw the
documentary with Kanye.
>> I might have missed it.
>> Yeah. It was also a similar thing where
you know the role a mother plays in in
raising a son and what kind of comp. So
so you're getting that support now when
you're going to school are you you know
are you early on rapping? Are you
playing sports? What would a Rick Ross
if I was in fifth grade with you or 10th
grade with you? Who was Rick Ross in
fifth and tth grade?
>> I was the most definitely a class clown.
I was uh highly respected. I wasn't on
no bully type vibe, you know, but I'll
hit you with a two-piece real quick. You
know what I mean? So, give me a little
piece of that pizza you eating on. You
know what I'm saying? [laughter]
You know what I'm saying? But other than
that, you know, I used to crack jokes
and music was in my life by this time.
Cuz by this time, yeah, by the fifth
grade, you know, I have, you know,
friends now. We we we got homies. And
one of my closest friends, his name was
Avery Branch. Wherever he had, I've been
looking for him for the last few years.
He's been featured on two or three of my
albums, but he had what his mom would do
was like, you know, kids that have
problems, she would adopt him.
So, you know, it's almost like he had
five or six big brothers in his crib and
they were doing music and everything
else.
So I was introduced, you know, through
my homie. Boom. [clears throat]
To his big brothers and them who had
vinyl records, this that. Oh, so we a
rap group? Yeah, y'all a rap group now.
Okay, so we a rap group. [ __ ] it's all
good.
>> And so was that the first time you
freestyled or what's the first time you
freestyle, but you're like, "Okay, this
guy can hang."
>> You know, my freestyle skills was never
like that. I always wanted to put some
thought into it. You know what I'm
saying? I had homies who would start
just spitting, but that never really
impressed me. You know what I'm saying?
The dudes I was listening to, they were
saying things that was damn near
mindblowing. So if I walked up to
somebody and somebody was like, "Yeah,
my kicks on, hits on, dicks on, Rick
song." Yo, chill out, homie.
>> That's not you.
>> Nah.
>> Who Who'd you listen to in fifth grade?
Like at that age?
>> [ __ ] I was listening to everywhere.
East Coast, West Coast, down south. It
didn't matter. Because you got to
remember by the time I'm in the fifth
grade and I'm listening to Too Short or
if it's Easy E or if it's NWA, it's
almost making me feel like I've been to
LA. Of course, I've never been there,
but this is where I could sit in my room
and imagine, yo, this is what LA like.
The low riders, the cars, the paint
jobs, the gold dat.
>> Wow. They're painting the picture of
what LA is like through rap,
>> through music.
>> Wow. So, you're Okay. So, you're you
just turned uh how old you I just saw
that you just had your 50th, right?
>> Just celebrated my 50th. I did.
>> 50th. Happy birthday. Happy uh 50th is a
big deal, man. To go through it. I I
think after like 30 everything is by
decades. You celebrate every 10 years.
40, 50, 60.
>> Why not? Why not? [laughter] Yeah. Yeah.
[ __ ] it. Why not celebrate it?
>> But if you're in fifth grade, fifth
grade is what? You're 10, 11 years old.
So that's 39 years ago. 39 years ago is
late 80s.
>> Got to be
>> late 80s. So who's late 80s? Because
Tupac hasn't come out yet. Late
>> 80 is
>> No, no, no. Tupac hasn't come out yet.
So really it was about it was about yo
MTV raps,
>> right?
>> You know those videos. So after school I
would soon as we got out of school at
2:30, boom. I may have had 30 minutes to
get home before your MTV Raps came on.
Everything that was on there I was a fan
of. If if it's East Coast, if it's Tribe
Called Quest, Bust the Rhymes, Leader of
the New School, Public Enemy, LL,
whatever it is.
>> You know what I'm saying? Because I'm I
done fell in love with it for the music,
the creative expression, the fashion,
everything. The videos, the artwork, the
graffiti, the cars. That [ __ ] grabbed me
from every ang. It was like an octopus.
And it was it sudden like in fifth
gradeish or was it
>> it was already gone from you know me
first hearing music.
>> What what what are for me there's three
songs I listen to where I you know all
of a sudden I had to stop. I'm like I
cannot believe I'm hearing a voice like
this. But what was it for you maybe one
of the hip-hop songs where you listen to
you're like this is just different than
anything else I've ever in my life
especially when you were young.
>> It was phenomenal. It was amazing. So
growing up in my household, I my mom
played Johnny Taylor every weekend.
Every time we was in the car, we
listened to music. So I was just
exposed to music from before I could
even recall.
So when you listen to my sounds, the
Maybback music live instrumentation
feeling, that expensive orchestra
feeling sound, that's what that come
from. me listening to old soulful music,
R&B, that was before I could even talk.
So by the time rap music, you know, came
into play, it was I understood and could
blend them both.
>> Rap and R&B,
>> of course. So right now, if I go through
my playlist right now, you at the top
might be Fleetwood Mac. Then it might go
to goddamn DJ Quick, then it might go,
you know, it's just anything you could
imagine. R&B or '90s R&B.
>> Man, I I listen to everything.
>> Everything.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. '90s R&B in my opinion was the
best R&B.
>> That's easily
um I understand that, but it's easily
debatable.
>> What would you put comparable to the
'90s R&B?
>> Man, you got to go back to
>> old school.
>> Anita Baker. You got to go back to It's
like who do you put next to Anita Baker?
Who do you put next to? Who you who do
you compare from the '9s to to that?
When when I think about the sound of
Shade Day, who could you compare?
>> She's one of a kind.
>> Thank you.
>> She's one of a kind.
>> Thank you.
>> I wish you would perform more, but
that's why when she does it, I read
somewhere that she doesn't like uh
>> and I understand.
>> Yeah,
>> she she's one of those
>> pure artist.
>> Oh my god. We got to protect her with
all our
>> Have you ever met her?
>> Of course not.
>> Oh, you haven't? Of course not.
>> You answered that quickly.
>> Of course.
>> Intentionally you don't want to meet
her.
>> Intentionally. No, never. That Ros would
have had a collaboration with Shade if I
met her. Stop. I would have went and got
us a matcha.
>> So would that be at the top of the list
as a collaboration?
>> Of course in human life. [laughter]
>> Wow.
>> Shade. That's the music.
>> This what I'm trying to talk about. I
grew up to, you know, beautiful sounds.
sounds that if you close your eyes, it's
like you could see them in color. And
that's what Shade does for me.
>> I agree. What's your favorite Shade
song? I never thought we're going to
talk Shade today.
>> That was not in my top 50 list today.
>> It's too many to list for Shade. You to
me, you could just go Shade's greatest
hits and let it go. I fully agree.
>> Just leave that alone. Play that. That's
for anybody listening. I agree. You pull
up Shade's greatest hits and fall back.
Do yourself one by one. It's never as
good as the first time. Cherish the day
>> without a doubt. It's never good as the
first time. Number one. Never good as
the first time.
>> Never as good as the first time.
>> Greatest song they ever created.
>> And and she's telling you the story. And
I believe her. I believe what she's
telling me. But there was a part about
her where, you know, she gets
uncomfortable. Every time she would
announce a concert, it would sell out
within like the first, you know, few
minutes, you know, because the world
wanted to watch her. I imagine how many
babies have been born to Shade.
>> [laughter]
>> you know.
>> So, so, so who would be your two on the
list? If Shade is one, who would be two
or three that you haven't collaborated
with yet?
>> Well, I have collaborated with Mary J.
Blah, but most definitely what Shade
does. What Anita Baker does.
That's too easy. Anita Baker most
definitely for Ros is like, you know
what I mean? It's different. So, I just
listen to, you know,
>> you just listen to Anita B Anita Baker.
>> Yes, I listen, you know, like I say, my
playlist is is different. But when I'm
thinking of these voices and Rick Ross
collaborations,
without a doubt, Shade is number one on
the list. Her voice, her sounds.
Um, for her to do a concert, all she has
to do is come out in a white gown, no
shoes, and just sit down Indian style.
>> Yeah.
>> So, you already visualizing in the Oh, I
can see it.
>> video, the collaboration.
>> It's too easy. It's too easy. I see.
>> I mean, if you're putting it out there,
they're probably going to reach out to
you.
>> Oh my god.
>> Have you ever reached out to her?
>> Oh my god. I would love to go get you a
cup of matcha. [laughter]
>> [laughter]
>> It's true. It's true. Even though we we
we're smiling, shotty, um I mean it.
>> What was the movie that her song was a a
big hidden with Demi Moore and Robert
Redford?
>> Indecent Proposal.
>> Indecent Proposal. Have you ever seen
Indecent Proposal? Do you remember that
movie 30 years ago?
>> I'm not sure. I remember the title, but
that might have been out of Rosé Luke 30
years ago.
>> Yeah,
>> indecent proposal.
>> Yeah, there's a scene where I mean the
main song is Ordinary Love in the movie
and it's Shade.
>> It make it makes sense. Whoever scored
the music was very smart.
>> Yeah.
>> Right.
>> Yeah. Are you a movie guy as well? You
watch a lot of movies.
>> I love movies.
>> What are your favorite movies? [sighs]
Well, my favorite film, Quinton
Tarantino, was my favorite director.
>> So, Reservoir Dogs,
>> all of that. Kill Bill.
>> Reservoir Dogs was the first one he did.
You know, he did it for $400,000. A guy
made like 20 million bucks on Reservoir
Dogs.
>> He made more than that
>> on Reservoir Dogs,
>> of course. [ __ ] was legendary.
>> Yeah, Reservoir Dogs is is phenomenal.
>> Think about it. All they had was black
and white suits on the whole time. In a
warehouse.
>> Yeah, in a warehouse. I see
>> crazy. So my my uh sister's husband is
trying to impress my dad. So he comes
over to the house, I got a movie from
Blockbuster. You picked a movie. And he
brings Reservoir Dogs. I don't know if
you've seen Reservoir Dogs, Rob. I mean,
it starts off with 4 500 F-bombs. And my
dad's like, "What kind of a son-in-law
brings a movie like this for the first
time to impress me?"
>> He was smart.
>> He was smart. They're still together.
>> That's what I'm trying to tell you.
>> So he chose CMX. Shout out to you if you
remember that day. You brought the movie
Reservoir down.
>> It was smart, man. Nothing but success.
>> So, Quinton Tarantino
>> without a doubt.
>> Who else? I know you've called yourself
Renzel. So, are you a Denzel guy or
>> Oh, Denzel. Most definitely.
>> Favorite Denzel flick?
>> He number one.
I mean,
>> is he one of the guys that whatever
movie he does you just watch? It's most
defin I mean we've watched him be a
young man all the way till
he's you know him 70 70 years old still
you know having fights on the trains and
>> fighting the mafia and you know hits and
>> and there's not many people that could
pull that off and you actually enjoy
watching it. Yeah,
>> I can I I enjoy it. I I don't I don't
know if he's acting like I I think
Denzel was one decision away from being
a very different person in his life.
Somebody got a hold of him early.
>> Oh, he made he makes it clear though.
He's been very open and about open about
the life he lives. But
>> Denzil be Denzel at his age and still be
the equalizer. You're a [ __ ]
>> Yeah. Each one of them are better than
the other one.
>> I love them.
>> Yeah. American Gangster.
>> Two might be my favorite.
>> Two. Yeah. Equalizer two may be my
favorite.
>> Yeah. Is two the one where he walks up
to the guys that took advantage of the
girl and walks upstairs to their room
and knocks on the door and gives a card
and a one. That's two.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Two was
>> Yeah.
>> He's revenge.
>> When he was the Uber driver.
>> When he was the Uber driver. Yeah.
That's two.
>> I confuse it with one and two. Yeah. Two
is intense.
>> Two was the one
>> emotion. Like it's you know who's the
other guy uh uh Ros that does the
revenge movies? What's the guy's name
that's taken? What is the guy's name?
>> Nissan. Liam. Liam Niss. Oh, he just
revenge movies like
>> Yeah. He another 75 year old that'll
kick in the door and kill eight
[ __ ] Yeah.
>> You know, allegedly he's with Pamela
Anderson now. So they're they're I don't
know if you heard about that.
>> Pamela Smart.
>> Tell me why.
>> Why? Cuz she with Liam. She got nice
boobs. She keep her boobs right.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. She with Liam.
>> It's important. You got to keep them
straight.
>> You got to be smart.
>> Yeah. So Pamela smart.
>> Oh my god. She's smart. Shout out to the
smart women. [laughter]
>> She one time did an interview. It was a
very weird interview, but you know, it
was her son is I think sitting next to
her at the time. He was 28. And she's
talking about how at the peak of it when
she would go and date guys and they
would have sex as if they learned how to
have sex through porn.
>> Okay?
>> And she said she had to tell men, "This
is not how I like to have sex. I want
you to have sex with me. I don't want
you to think this is a porn movie." So
she said the influence of porn has on
young men confuses them what women
actually like. What do you think about
that? [sighs and gasps]
>> I think that was like I said she's
smart. She was expressing herself and
she wanted to be direct on what she
wanted. So she wanted to make sure she
enjoyed herself instead of someone just
joy riding around and she not enjoy it.
I like that. That was a great idea.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's an interesting uh
perspective. But when but when she's you
know with a boss you know
>> he's the shot caller
>> and Liam's the boss
>> you're saying you
>> Yeah. Yeah. Without a doubt me.
>> So shot caller is whatever the shot
caller says is is what we're doing.
>> Oh most definitely. Even though she's
going to be fine. You're going to be
happy, baby. [laughter]
>> Have you ever met Pamela Anderson or No.
>> I don't recall.
I've been to a few, you know, red
carpets, this and that.
U Ros your your book it's it's slightly
different. It's you know it opens up
with you know uh uh the flight you're
you know going through a midlife crisis.
You're going through a challenge at the
time.
>> So you know maybe share a little bit of
the insight of what got you to a point
of realizing you're going through
midlife crisis. What events led to that?
Because you've made the money, you've
had the house, you've had the cars, a
lot of them. You've traveled. You've had
hits after hits after hits. You know, a
source man of the year backtoback, nine
Grammy nominations.
You know, you live in one of the biggest
houses with 350,000galon
pool, if I'm not mistaken, one of the
biggest pools in America, the one in
Atlanta. You you've lived a big life.
So, at what point do you say after all
this, I'm hitting midlife crisis. How
does that happen?
>> That's when your life is not based on
your achievements. None of the swimming
pools, the 300 acres, that isn't what
you for myself base my life or my level
of success or that that doesn't
determine what I'm satisfied with. So
when you're a person like myself who
still has that that fire burning, you
still have to be creative and creative
in a way where you've challenged your
greatest work.
>> So that's where you me talking about uh
a rut or a midlife crisis coming in at.
That's me creating music. And you know
where music was at at that time. You
know, it was a lot of more rappers
singing than rappers rapping. The
sounds, the melodies, the production,
the 808s, the drums. You know, I love
heavy rap music. You know, this is
expensive dope boy music that Ricky Ros
I I you know, I rap for the ones that
want to, you know, that plush lifestyle.
>> That's the music that I was making. And
at the time it felt like the the game
wasn't ready for that. So that's when I
began challenging myself and what can I
create that the streets is going to
appreciate. And so that's where a book
come into play at. And you know I'm
releasing my album June 12th next month
set in stone because I've put together a
body of work that's going to challenge
every album I've ever released.
body. That's going to be tough. You
think it's going to challenge every
album you've ever released?
>> Without a doubt. Or I would not have
released it. That's what I'm talking
about for myself. I don't want to I
could just rap if I wanted to, but I'm
not here for that. Rosa boss, you know
what I'm saying? This is legacy. So when
I say set in stone, it's not just uh
paper and pen. No, this is something
that [clears throat]
be discussed hundreds of years from now.
What Ricky Rose doing? What what does
the 50-year-old Ricky Ros know that the
30-year-old or the 40-year-old didn't
know?
>> Well, the 50 year old Ros know, boy, you
on a hell of a pace. You know what I'm
saying? You going to hit a billion. You
know what I'm saying? The 40-year-old
Ros was just understanding what it's
like to be wealthy. Now, how do you grow
from there? What's next? Okay, you have
a a estate with a 100 rooms with the
largest residential pool on 300 and
where do you go next? These are all the
questions that myself I'm going down the
list and challenging myself. Okay,
that's when I bought another piece of
property on Star Island for 37 million,
put another 25 million in it. I had two
offers of of a hundred million before it
was even completed.
>> Right across the street from me, King
Griffin building something worth a
billion.
>> I saw that.
>> So once again, this we're talking about
investments.
How do you elevate? That's with the
music. That's with the brands, Luke
Bair, the potato chips, the books,
everything that I'm doing. I want to
challenge myself. So that's where I came
to where it's no more just being
comfortable being known as a top five
lyricist in the game. Now let's let's go
let's go higher.
>> So next is uh billionaire status for
you. That's the next phase
>> without a doubt.
>> What excites you at this phase? What
what gets you out of bed at this phase?
You got the money, you got the house,
you got the cars. What excites you now?
>> Of course, man. You you you once again
it's it's the challenges. I'm I'm loving
I'm accepting. I was just with the Miami
Dolphins. I helped roll out the the
schedule, this year's schedule. So, we
filmed a lot of content. I met, you
know, the coaches, the team, the staff,
the players, this and that. And, you
know, hopefully one day I'll become a a
minority owner in the Miami Dolphins.
>> Oh, really?
>> Why not?
>> Okay.
>> We thinking big, right?
>> Yeah. That's good.
>> Okay.
>> That's good. I think I think uh NFL the
CFO is a good friend of mine of Miami
Dolphins, Chris. He's a um
>> Tell Chris Ricky Ros ready to
>> I'll text him right now. I'm gonna say
Chris.
>> Chris Chris,
>> you want me to tell him you want to be
minority?
>> Chris. Yeah. Start in minority. You know
what I'm saying?
>> So, let's just text him right now.
>> Send him a text right now.
>> Yeah, I'm going to do it right now.
>> Let him know Ros got the money.
>> Okay. So, Chris, this is Patrick Bid.
got a friend of mine that says he wants
to be a minority owner of the of the
>> Dolphins, a guy named Rick Ross.
>> Rick Ross.
>> Shout out to Chris. [laughter]
>> There you go, Chris. He may want to
reach out and become a minority owner. I
know you guys, we talked about it last
time. Anyway,
>> so minority owner of uh uh Dolphins.
>> Oh man,
>> that excites you.
>> It excites me.
>> Okay. All right. Favorite sport? I never
imagined being a water boy, but hey,
what the hell [laughter]
for the Dolphins?
>> Yeah, they they I think they're a seven
billion dollar organization valuation
wise. They wouldn't take Yeah, he bought
it for a billion in ' 09. What is it?
Okay. L 1% of that 12.5 billion dollar
valuation today. So 1% on 12.5.
>> No, let's let's start at 3%.
>> So you want 3%.
>> Yeah, let's start at
>> So you need 375 million for that.
>> Okay.
>> To be 3%. Okay.
>> So, that's a that's a good start right
there. Now,
>> would you want to be involved? Would you
want to be actively involved? Decisions,
you know, players.
>> Ros, I'm I'mma I'mma interject myself
into the involvement. That's too easy
>> automatically.
>> What you think? I'mma walk around and be
involved.
[screaming]
>> What What would you say? What advice?
>> Okay. So, who do you like any? Would you
say let's go get XYZ? Let's go get this
rece. Is that how you involve? You want
to see? You're seeing more marketing,
you know,
>> everything.
Ros got a few ideas. Let's be great.
>> Any players you like?
>> Oh, man.
>> Current players.
>> Why not?
>> Who do you like today in the NFL?
>> The Dolphins.
>> Playerwise,
>> Malik, our new quarterback.
>> Okay. So, anything with the Dolphins?
>> Anything pro Dolphins? I'm glad you
caught that. [laughter]
>> Chris.
Chris, I know that.
>> So, you're you're uh you also know the
political game. You're you're uh
>> No, I don't. I know the Dolphins.
>> You know the Dolphins? Yeah.
>> Are you an OG Dolphins fan? Like uh you
know, Dan Marino
>> big time
>> OG receivers,
>> man. Mark Clayton, Mark Dooper. Of
course.
>> Of course. Zack Thomas.
>> Are you Zack Thomas is a stud of a guy?
Legendary.
>> 54, right? Was he 53 or 54? I think 54
>> legend.
>> Yeah, I just saw him the other day at um
we were doing a uh trick or treat on
Halloween. He's like, "Hey,
>> are you PBD?" I said, "I'm I said,
"Wait, are you Zack Thomas?" By the way,
he still looks the same.
>> That's Zack.
>> He still look How old is he? 52 years
old. He still looks the same.
>> Zack real deal. Real
>> stud of a guy. He The guy would run
around tackling people. Everybody was
frightened of this guy.
>> No, you're a real one.
>> Baby elephant.
>> Why not?
>> Yeah. So, uh, uh, by the way, are you
fully moved back to Miami or are you
still going back to Georgia?
>> I got No, I got real estate in a few
other states, but Miami has always been
the spot, you know.
>> So, over 180 days, you spend more in
Miami?
>> Without a doubt.
>> Is that tax purposes or is it because
this is home?
>> No, no, no. It's because it's the
sunlight.
>> Yeah.
>> It's the ocean.
It's the breeze,
the alkaline air.
Yeah,
>> you can keep selling it. By the way,
this is, you know, why not?
>> No, it's an easy place to sell.
>> Thank you. I'm You throw me the alley
hoop. I got [laughter] you.
>> So, you you sound like you could run for
governor one day in South Florida and
get a bunch of No thanks. No thanks. No
thanks.
>> Not interested in the Dolphins. Let's
get the 3%. [laughter]
>> Let's get the 3%
3% [snorts]
uh in. So, go going back to uh early on
when we're talking about fifth grade,
10th grade. So, uh, uh, first time
because when I see the story in ' 06 or
' 07, everybody was bidding for you
before your song came out,
>> it was it was a lot of people who
understood
my direction.
But once I released Every Damn Hustling,
that's when the bidding war turned all
the way up.
>> So, the bidding wars after Every Damn
Hustling.
>> Facts.
>> Got it.
>> Facts. And then and who who did they
like what was it was? So the leverage
for you was the fact that you earned the
moral authority that I got a hit because
you know 200,000
>> and not just a hit. This is one of the
biggest records of the year without a
doubt. And the streets felt that
immediately. H
>> how quickly did life change for you? Was
it an overnight thing?
>> Yeah, without a doubt.
As soon as the record came out, I
understood that's when every executive
in the industry reached out directly.
>> How did they treat you before it? How
did they treat you after it?
>> Well, you know, it it wasn't the way
they treated me before it because we had
no communication.
You know, I was a just an independent
local Miami artist. The day I released
Every Day I'm Hustling, maybe two weeks
later at the most, I had spoke to the
top 10 executives in the industry.
>> What are they telling me when they're
calling you?
>> We want to do business with you.
>> Open-ended,
>> right? Then what what do you mean?
>> This is what this is 08 06 06
>> 06. So who are the players at the time
that they're Is it Leor? Is it Is it
Cohen? Who's
>> Leor? Without a doubt. Leor, but I I
allowed Leor to manage me for a year
just because of the conversations we
were having
>> in ' 06.
>> Facts.
>> So, who else called? Who would the
Heavyweight Tech called?
>> Everybody. Tom Wall-E, Tommy Matah. Um,
LA here now cuz
>> Yeah, shout out to Tommy Matah. That's
my guy.
>> LA Reed. Tommy Matah.
>> Yes. The list goes on. Who was the most?
That's
>> Well, um, you know, I was pretty I was
pretty frank, you know, straight up.
I want the munan. Who's coming with the
most money, baby?
In the first conversations, we began at
seven figures. And then just from there,
you know, I went I met met a few people,
you know. Okay. Cool, cool, cool, cool.
When I sat down with LA Reed and Jay-Z,
rest in peace to Shaquille Stewart.
Um, that's where I closed the deal at
Death Jail.
>> Did they pay more than anybody else or
did they sell the dream big?
>> Oh, everybody had to It was clear where
I ultimately was going to stop at. It
was about the money, but everybody I
made it clear what um what I needed as
in supportwise and what my plan was
music-wise.
And I just wanted them to understand
this is not just a one record oneoff
type of thing. I'm going to have a
classic album. Then my second album is
going to be this way. So I need
everybody to see the vision. This ain't
just one record. I know how that [ __ ]
go. This is why I'm hot. This is what
you know all those records came and
went. No, this ain't that. This big boy
heavyweight [ __ ] and I made that clear.
>> Who Who was who was most impressive to
you where you said, "Man, if the money
was there, I may have gone with them."
Or was your mind made up? I'm going to
go with Jay-Z. I'm going to go with uh
>> No, I gave everybody that I sat around
with, I had an open door. You know what
I mean? We having conversations. We
talking business. we talking um just
moves, you know, how we gonna make this
happen.
>> Was anybody super like was did anybody's
approach was anyone's [snorts] approach
so memorable that you remember till
today or were we all the same way
>> cuz you're the you're the guy everybody
wants at the time. So they have to have
their unique presentations.
>> Everybody did. That's what I'm saying.
Everybody came the way they wanted to
come. But let's say Shakir Stewart,
Jay-Z, La Reed, we we spoke a lot more
than just music.
You know, they understand. You see the
potato chips, you see the champagnes.
It's, you know,
of course, music was the priority, but I
just made it clear this wasn't going to
be regular. Did I know it would be 20
years later and we would be having this
conversation? Of course not. But I knew
it this wasn't gonna be a one album
thing.
>> Did anyone say anything that turned you
off? We like I'll never do business with
those guys.
>> Not really. Not really. Because I was
just focusing on the things that I
wanted. And I'm sure a lot of people
ain't understand it. I'm sure when I
went into flew out to Cali and walked
into Tom Wally mansion, I'm sure he was
like, "Yo, this [ __ ] might be
crazy." Because I am borderline
delusional. Of course I am. And if you
coming from Miami and your record is
every damn hustling and you telling the
[ __ ] "Yo, right off the rip,
yo, I need seven figures. I'm in your
living room and then I'm I'm eating out
your snack bar and yo, pull me a drink.
Yo, this Ros [ __ ] need some tequila.
[laughter]
I'm sure they was yo this [ __ ]
Yeah. You got ribeye." Yeah.
>> Was Was Diddy one of them as well? That
was uh because it was everybody at the
time.
>> It was everybody at the time without a
doubt. One of my homeboys, Big Block, he
had a deal with Diddy for Bad Boy South.
And I was on a record. They released
that's Young Jeezy and uh Boys in the
Hood.
>> He had released the album Boys in the
Hood. And I was on one of the records on
Boys in the Hood. So that's what Diddy
heard, you know, heard my skills. [ __ ]
was really hearing my flow. It wasn't
about popularity. It was really about
talent. We didn't have social media. So
they they playing your records. Let me
hear what you talking about. And once
everybody heard me, [ __ ] I was popping.
They understood this was heavyweight.
>> Now, when when you're first releasing
Everyday I'm Hustling, who owned it? Who
owned that one? That specific track?
>> Well, the producers was the runners. My
homeboy Josh Burke. Shout out to Josh
Burke. He was um working along with Ted
Lucas and Slip and Slide Records. I had
signed a deal with Slip and Slide
Records. And so he brought me the beat
for every damn hustling.
>> And that night I wrote the first verse.
Trina had a show in Tampa. I drove up to
Tampa just to play that record and I
wrapped the first verse. And I just
remember the look that I got from this
one individual.
A guy looked at me and he had his mouth
open and he was just like,
"Damn, do it again."
And that's when I wrote the second
verse, went home and recorded it. A week
later, I released it.
>> So independently yourself?
>> Yeah. I'm still just It's, you know,
slip and slide, an independent record
label. But, you know, I recorded it,
released it, and [ __ ] everybody had to
catch up at that point.
>> What's the spread in uh split in the
revenue at the time? Um, I don't even
recall what the split was cuz at that
time I understood it wasn't based on the
split or the percentages then because I
was just getting in the door. I just
wanted to lock them in and make them
commit to supporting and investing just
a little bit and I knew once I was once
I released the music that I was capable
of making, the big money will come into
play. So that first song when Jay-Z and
those guys came and signed you, did they
get that song or the first song is owned
by someone else?
>> No, it was it was owned by me and Slip
and Slide Records.
>> Got it. Till today.
>> Facts.
>> And it's still giving you revenue every
year that song.
>> Facts.
>> Do you do you have an idea what that
specific song 20 years later is making?
>> [ __ ] No. It's still a hit.
>> It still shakes the arenas. It still
shakes
>> Oh, yeah. It's one of the greatest songs
of all time.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Without a doubt.
>> Yeah. It's not even close.
>> But once you accu once you accumulate a
catalog like mine is you're not just
looking at one record. You just looking
at the overall vibe, you know.
>> So So pre So pre that song coming out
are do you at the time have money in the
bank? Are you you know you at least have
100,000 in the bank? Do you have 50,000
in the bank or not yet?
>> I was most definitely you know that's
when I was riding around hustling doing
my thing. I had my BMW. I had my crib
already. twotory crib garage, you know,
just, you know, I was doing my thing.
But most definitely once I released the
record, I got the deal, seven figures up
front. Then that entire year I was doing
shows, three shows a day, five days a
week.
>> Stop it.
>> Yeah. And I was just stacking my money.
>> Three shows a day, five days a week.
>> [ __ ] I was on gold.
>> Good for you.
>> Everywhere wanted me to stop by. If I
got booked in St. Lewis, there will be a
someone else. Can you stop by here
before then? Can you come by here after
then? Can you come to our restaurant?
We'll have you, you know, would you come
eat some spaghetti with us? We'll give
you 15K just to have a plate of
spaghetti and take the pictures and, you
know, just all of that. So
>> that first year, I went crazy. I stacked
my money up.
>> What's the What's the first big thing
you bought and what's the one thing you
bought that was the first dumb purchase
you made?
Um, [sighs]
you know, my whole thing was I like to
dump lumps into real estate. You know,
that was some game. Like I said, my mom
been gave me that type of game. So, of
course, I always spent money. I always
indulged in jewelry and, you know, whips
and cars. But for me, it was it was,
believe it or not,
>> valuable investments.
>> Valuable investments.
>> Right. I got returned for my jewels. It
was it was it became one of those
things. People were paying me to come
and they it's almost like they just
wanted to look at me and take a picture
of me like, "Yo, this [ __ ] is really
real." You know what I'm saying? And
then when I get the rose, did you wear
that the d the the ring the this, you
know? It's almost like, yo, it was
different. It was different. It was
different. I was a different situation
>> before Everyday I'm Hustling. Who knew
in Miami that there's something that's
going to happen with you? I mean,
because Miami's got names as well. It's
got a lot of good names that came out of
here.
>> Right. Right. Right.
>> Who knew there's something special about
this
>> perform every damn hustle before? Yeah.
Luke knew, DJ Khaled knew. If you was a
local rapper, if you was a local artist,
they knew the big boy in the city is
Ros. Now, was the is the country ready
for this? Is the rap game ready for
this? Because once again, we come from,
you know, a party city. Beats that's 130
miles. [ __ ] got on bikinis. Woo
[screaming]
be, you know, just all of that [ __ ] And
I'm talking about getting money. I'm
talking about real estate. I'm talking
about mansions. You know what I'm
saying? I want jets and [ __ ] I want to
do a lot of different investments,
which was, you know, a lot different
from the norm. Would you say if Biggie
would have lived on, he would have been
a dream selling rapper instead of like
correcting an injustice like Tupac?
Because Tupac talked about the problems.
Biggie sold the dream. You know, they
both to me they both, you know, they
both was the greats at the end of the
spectrum and they balanced the game out.
You know, we we both they both made it
clear what the value of family was, also
what wealth was like. Big most
definitely, you know, painted that image
in that picture, those Versace
button-ups and, you know, but but at the
end of the day, it's about going to get
it. So, they both was telling you to go
and get it. You got to invest in
yourself. You got to make it happen. You
know what I mean?
>> Tupac apparently never really made money
when he was doing it. He made some
money, but apparently he never made uh u
a lot of money at the time. Hip-hop was
different.
>> Yeah. it. You know what was unfortunate
to me was the fact that they both were
really were kids, man. You know, you 23
years old, 24 years old, you know, and
I'm speaking for both of them. You know
what I'm saying? You you lose your life,
you didn't give you you, they they both
were priceless.
>> If they both lived a long healthy life,
they both would be I'm talking about
it's unbelievable how much money they
generated multiple billions. Both of
them. Billions and billions and
billions. That's a good point because
your yours first was 30. So probably at
that time your uh you know how the game
is played and how people get taken
advantage of. So you're probably tougher
to take advantage of than maybe they
were.
>> You most definitely got to learn. It's
no one that's with you when it's you.
It's time to talk about yo record deal
this that this that. It's no one yo you
just got to stress the important things
to you. Yo you going to provide the
studio. you going to do this for me? Yo,
just be ready. And in my mind, I already
know, yo, I'mma get a major label to
come step into and take over this
situation. And we going to tax them.
>> The local label is cool. I get it. I get
it. I get it. So, that 30K advance for
six albums, I wasn't tripping. I get it.
But what I'mma do is I'mma stir and
create so much disruption and create so
much value where the big boys going to
come in and say, "Yo, Rick Ross, boom.
We going to give you five million.
What you want to do?"
>> Who Who was Who was in your ear? Who was
whispering in your ear, "Hey, be
careful. They're going to try to do
this. Hey, ask for this." Who Who played
a critical role?
>> Nobody really Nobody cared about that
[ __ ] It was about the music. the for
one, first and foremost, before the
record deal even important, do you
really have something that's valuable?
>> Right.
>> Or you'll be like the other thousands of
artists who get record deals and six
months later
>> you never heard from them again.
>> You're talking about the one hit wonder.
>> Yeah. And even the ones that never had
one hit,
you get a record deal, but you don't
have one hit. Now what? You were
fortunate. The one hit wonders were
fortunate that they had one hit.
I know so many people that got signed
and never had a hit. Now you just move
on. So now that's the focus. When you're
a young artist, it wasn't even about the
record deal. I want to make get a
[ __ ] record
>> and I want [clears throat] to create a
record that the [ __ ] world wants to
hear. So So you are both on the talent
side and you're also you're a triple
threat because you have the personality,
you got the business experience, and
you're a talent. So Jay-Z's one. There's
not too many of you guys that you uh
also have an ear. What's the recent
movie that came out by Denzel where he
he was known as having the best ear in
the game? What's
>> he was a CEO in the game and it was ASAP
Rocky in the film,
>> right? ASAP Rocky.
>> I watched the film maybe a month.
>> What was it called? What was it called?
It's highest to lowest. Yeah. Which by
the way interesting cuz you know u and
and he talks about how he's but he was
not a guy that was a talent. He was just
an ear. He would be able to see it. So
for you Executive.
>> An executive. Exactly. Uh so how much of
it uh is personality? How much of it is
talent? How much of it is connections?
How much of it is work ethic? How much
of it is your fashion? How much of it is
your look? What where would you rank it
when you look at somebody and say this
is a guy? Because you've had who? You've
had French Montana.
>> You've had Meek. You've had a lot of
guys.
>> Right. Right. Right.
>> What do you look for? I think first and
foremost for me, what's most valuable to
me is
um [clears throat] how dedicated are
you? Are you willing to work 15 hours a
day when it's time to
are you willing to do that? Because you
could have the fashion, you could have
the style, you could have the music, but
if you're not really dedicated, it won't
last. You don't have many artists that's
talented and gifted and they're gone.
They're gone. And why is that? You got
to have a consistent understanding that
passion has to burn. Because when I
first got in the game, I wasn't the most
talented. I wasn't the most this. I
wasn't first in this. I was never the
perfect this that this that. No. But
what I was was the ultimate hustler.
We not going to stop until we get this
done. We not going to stop until we make
this [ __ ] amazing. We gonna stay in here
until this [ __ ] sounds like it's Yeah.
So that's what separated me from the
others. So that's what I look for when
it's time for me to really appraise
another artist or look at another artist
and the gift and you know how consistent
are they?
>> How long does it take for you to realize
these guys got it or not?
>> Not long. Not long.
Not what you look for.
>> I mean, once you present yourself,
>> yo, that's what I'm here for. This the
music, this the this, this, the Okay,
then the rest of the questions come with
it. Do you have a the video to go with
it? Is social media on go? Is do you
have a team? Is is it just you by
yourself? Is, you know, are you already
generating income? Can you buy your own
outfits? This that every It's a long
list.
>> You're asking all those questions.
>> No, it's just No, you have to I have to
see it. Ros don't got time to ask you.
That's just like if you walking into the
room and you step over the paper on the
floor. If you're not going to pick it up
and make it make the situation better,
there's no need for you. I'm not asking
you nothing.
>> Got it.
>> I have to see it.
>> Are you calling around as well to learn
about the individual or No.
>> No. I got to see it. I got to feel it.
The streets got to call me.
>> So, who who's the biggest risk you took
on?
>> [ __ ] Everybody. It's all a risk because
you never know who's going to really
break, who's going to really pop, who's
going to really work. You You might sign
a a super talented individual and guess
what? He has twins on the way now. And
he doesn't have time for the studio. He
doesn't have time for the interviews,
the podcast, the this to that. Guess
what? His call is over for him
unless he goes and prove otherwise.
But you have to be totally dedicated to
this.
>> Did you watch a game last night with WBY
and uh OKC?
>> I did.
>> What did you think about WY last night?
>> Um, he was cool. He was cool.
>> You're not a I'm assuming you're not a
San Antonio fan. Like that's not your
team. You're probably a Heat fan.
>> I'm a Heat fan without a doubt. But I
thought OKC was gonna pull it off.
>> I thought so as well. What do you think
about that three? the three he hit from
the I don't know if you saw the three he
hit in overtime we're in you know fourth
quarter WBY all the way from the logo
did you see that or no
>> I missed that
>> oh let me tell you he hit this he walks
up and he just hits it and they
interview him afterwards okay Rob can
you pull up the interview afterwards
with WBY and there's a reason why I'm
asking this question by the way the CFO
already responded
uh and he says small world I actually
sat with his son at Super Bowl several
years ago
The social media the other day was
incredible. He even made Stephen Ross
very funny.
Okay, have fun, my friend. God bless.
So, there you go. So, I don't know what
that means, but um
>> yeah, [clears throat] you'll text.
>> You know what he's talking about?
>> You'll text him again.
>> You want me to text him again?
>> Ros want to talk about the 3%.
>> All right. I just want to let you know
he wants to talk about 3% [applause]
of the Dolphins. That's what he wants to
talk about.
>> Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
>> All right. So, I'll put you guys in
contact.
>> Too easy. So there's an interview that
he does and I I want to get your take on
this when after the game there's a
question they ask him. Let me get Yeah,
that's the one right there. Okay. Can
you make that bigger rap and then turn
on go for it. When we set out to create
a shoe that blends [music] comfort,
function, and luxury. We had the choice
to make it fast. We had the choice to
make it cheap. We chose neither.
Instead, we chose Tuscan Italy. We chose
true Italian craftsmanship. Each pair
[music] touched by 50 skilled hands. We
chose patience, spending two years
perfecting every detail. And we chose
the finest [music] quality at every
step. Introducing the future looks
bright collection. Not rushed, not
disposable, not ordinary, rather
intentional, luxurious, timeless.
your mind at all knowing that Shay had
got that award and you were in the top
three for it and you know did any part
of tonight feel personal some of your
facial expressions kind of look like you
were really really going for it.
>> Yeah, for sure. Everything you just said
>> if that was in your mind at all.
>> So this guy had a chip because they gave
the MVP yesterday to SGA and he had a
pretty good season. How much does a chip
play a role in a guy willing to go until
he gets what he wants or you don't think
there's a
>> And when you say chip, what exactly do
you
>> chip on a shoulder? Like you're coming
up and somebody didn't believe in you.
Somebody said no to you, you know, uh uh
someone who maybe due to favoritism got
something that you felt you were doing
better. How much does that chip like
right here? We feels like he's the best
player in the world and he wants to keep
getting better. They're the champions.
He's the two-time MVP,
but he responds this way to say, "Look,
that was it." And then later on, he
says, "I'm going to I plan on winning a
lot of MVP trophies in my career, but he
wants to be a champion right now." So,
the DNA, how do you read the DNA of a
guy that's willing to pay the price and
he's super competitive?
Well,
Wimi most definitely
um played a major role in them pulling
it off without a [ __ ] doubt. So, he's
um exemplifying him really wanting to
chip, him really wanting to be great.
But once again, just like all ladders of
success, he has a lot more to prove.
Every room we step in, there's going to
be people in that same room that doubt
you regardless of how many points you
shoot, how many dunks you make, you
know, because the same way he hit that
three in overtime, those couple finger
rolls he missed, those Caruso took a
steal from, you know, it's a lot of
people that's going to focus on that. So
you still got to prove yourself to
everybody that's sitting back watching.
And most definitely when you on a global
platform, that's what it is. This is a
competitive game. It's called life. Who
Who's the first big name that targeted
you when you started getting momentum?
Who start because you know there's a lot
of beef in in in rap and you've had many
of them. You've had 50 Cent, Drake. Uh
>> it wasn't no one that really targeted
me. It was.
It's a good chance I initiated it.
>> Got it.
>> Right.
>> Intentional.
>> Yeah.
>> Have you ever read the book 40 Laws of
Power?
>> I have.
I know Robert Green personally.
>> Great guy. He's a friend.
>> He just posted my new book that I just
released for me. Thank you, Robert. Most
definitely.
>> Yeah. I mean, so do do you think there's
a lot of that going on in hiphop? 40
Laws of Power, the things he talks
about. Um, it may be a little bit of it,
but it'll be a lot more success. It'll
be a lot more wealth if they was really
focusing the way they should.
>> What do you mean?
>> I mean, it's a lot of it's a lot of
[ __ ] up things going on. It's a lot of
losses being made
>> in hip-hop,
>> of course, life period. But most
definitely in hip-hop, we see people
going to prison every day. We see people
losing their lives every day.
Talking about getting to the money or
they loss of power.
playing by the rules, being great.
>> So you you have a rare combination
because early on a lot of you know when
the story came out you were correctional
officer for what the 18 months or
whatever you did 16 months 17 months 18
months.
>> No it was [ __ ] much less than that. But
whatever the story was that [ __ ] they
half a billion late man
>> half a billion late.
>> Yeah.
>> But you have a street life and you have
a little bit of that. How does that
happen?
That's Ros being a hustler.
There's not many people that could
understand that.
>> I think I actually can because
there's an element of understanding the
law if you go to it. Was that the
intention originally?
>> Not at all. Not at all. Just hustling.
Just hustling.
>> [laughter]
>> I mean, look, I I I read somewhere that
you were making 23,000 28,000 as a as a
correctional officer. So, it's not like
it was paying very well.
>> Oh, man. I was hustling, man.
And you know, that's how hustlers
respond to that.
It's much deeper than rap, baby.
Much much deeper than rap.
>> Tell me more. Tell me when you say much
deeper than rap. I I'm letting you know
that's how hustlers a boss like myself
respond to that. It's not much more to
even say.
They missed that part of my life. They
missed it.
>> The the part about the hustling.
>> Oh man.
It's too easy.
>> Which which part? That they missed it or
the life was too easy?
>> Oh, they most definitely missed it. Now
what they could do is listen to the
music. They could read the books and
just close their eyes and just imagine
what it was like.
>> Oh man, what it most definitely.
>> Got it. And and how how important is
the game of hiphop? I came up in LA. I
lived in LA 20ome years. So for me, my
hip-hop was RBL Posi, Rappingforte, Too
Short, Master Ace. I don't know if you
remember Master Ace, the INC ride,
right?
>> It was uh um
>> Of course. Shout out to Master Ace, too.
>> Yeah, he's phenomenal. It was uh uh
who's the first Mexican rapper that got
a half a million dollars from uh Suge.
Uh uh the East Side rendevous. What was
his name? Um my god, I can't Frost. I
don't know if you remember Kit Frost.
>> I do remember Kit.
>> It was a lighter shade of brown. If you
remember Lighter Shade of Brown, maybe
you don't. It was It was these guys. And
on the R&B side, it was, you know, um,
>> this is Larasa.
>> Jodicy. Yeah. This is for Larasa. That's
right. That was a that was a great hit,
right?
>> It was.
>> And there was almost how how big of a
role does it play that you you have
street credit that you've you've had
that life. How big of a role that does
that play?
Um, I think first and foremost the music
is the most important part because
these, you know, the
I [clears throat] can only imagine I
don't see really a lot of street in the
ones that's making the music. They could
discuss it. They could, you know, speak
on behalf of they where they from, they
city, this or that. But as far as the
music, first and foremost, now what goes
on behind the scene and how you move.
Are you really a boss? Are you really,
you know, strong enough to be able to
make these moves and the streets accept
it? You know, that's something totally
different.
>> That's something totally different. So,
the street accepts
the street credit or not?
The streets for me will most definitely
play a role in
um
streets.
You understand? The streets going to
play a role in the streets.
And as if you're an artist, first and
foremost, your music, your craft, and
your gift
is what's most important.
How far you go after that, that's
between you and the streets. Uh, Ros,
who did who did you meet in the game?
Because you give me the vibes of a very
driven, competitive guy.
>> Facts.
>> Yeah. Who did you meet in the game where
you said, "These are the five real OG
players. These are the guys I'll be
competing with the next couple decades."
>> You know, for me, in the way I move, I I
necessarily don't even pit myself
against or competing against the the
legends. So to me that's like me saying
I would compete against Bigg. I would
never do that. You don't see that. I
would never compete against Pac. I would
never compete against Jay-Z. I would
never compete against, you know, Luke
Records in no kind of aspect because
that's where I got the game from. You
know what I'm saying? That's the love
and the respect that I have. But um
anybody else,
it's not really nobody that's on my
level for me to go against.
It's nothing to go against. No,
>> nobody at your level.
>> No.
>> So, you you're giving the praise to
Jay-Z, to
>> uh
>> the ones who raised me, the ones who who
showed me the game. You know what I'm
saying?
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. The ones who I I I really absorb
the most game from. You know what I
mean? when I was listening to two short
record, you know, when I run into these
dudes, when I I just I just announced
yesterday that Scarface is performing at
my car show
>> June 13th. It's like Scarface I would
never go against Scarface.
>> I you know, he got 20 records out. I
listened to all of them. I bought them
all.
>> Didn't he do something with Tupac?
>> Of course.
>> I got keys coming from overseas, right?
Cost.
>> No, that's all eyes on me with Tupac.
But uh Scarface and Tupac with they most
definitely
>> Oh, I remember this song. What's the
song with him and uh Tupac? Rob, can you
pull up the song Scarface did with
Tupac? The moment I hear the lyrics, I
know which one it is. Um Smile, Smile.
Oh man, smile. Is that the one?
>> That's it.
>> That's the one.
>> That's one of them.
>> Wow. Cuz they did a couple of them,
right?
>> Facts.
>> That's 97 30 years ago. So SC so so so
you would you consider yourself a fan of
the game as well like you said I listen
to his so who do you listen to who are
people that you listen to that maybe
they're even current players
>> I just told you my playlist is that Ros
is where is just the dope classic you
know I just mentioned I mentioned DJ
quick earlier so from the west coast to
the east coast of course all down south
>> but like did you listen to Andre 3000
Outcast.
>> Of course, that's crumbling nerve. You
can't It's nobody that could not listen
in Outcast. You know what I'm saying? So
that's
>> greatest albums. Those guys that album
was just It's another one of those shade
ones that you just just play it. Just
let it go and it just you can listen to
every song.
>> Of course.
>> Yeah.
>> Trick Daddy. That's everything. My
playlist jump from You know what I'm
saying?
My [ __ ] is Ros [ __ ] special. [laughter]
That's just my sound.
>> Is your playlist public or is it a
private uh playlist?
>> I don't even know.
>> You got to make your playlist public.
>> Of course.
>> Is this PM Dawn? Who is this?
>> Of course. That's
>> Wow. PM Dawn. You know what's my f What
a great song.
>> It's amazing.
>> You know what's my favorite PM Dawn
song?
>> It's uh Not that one. The other one.
>> What's this one you're playing?
>> It's EPMD. Please listen to my demo. And
for, you know, music lovers like myself,
>> I was young when I heard this and
realized there wasn't no
>> no kicks, no drums. It was just a loop.
>> I don't even know if it's producers that
know that.
>> You got to make your playlist public.
>> My kids love the song. Phenomenal song.
The kid's a genius.
>> The guy, remember the guy, the
skateboard guy with this guy? I don't
know if you know which one I'm talking
about. That's him, right? The He's
drinking the grape juice or what drink
was he drinking?
>> What a great song.
>> It's Rosé playlist.
>> 80s. Good for you. Wow. Phil Collins.
>> Of course.
>> Phil Collins. Yeah,
>> of course.
>> Yeah. Phil Collins just didn't he just
turned 80? I just saw something about
Phil Collins turned 70 or 80, something
like that.
Age
>> 76. Yeah. 75.
>> This is all This is my recent play.
>> This ain't
recently searched. This ain't this list
that I'm playing from. This is something
>> recent.
>> Yeah. This what I'm smoking and riding
to on the way here.
>> Folks falling like rain.
So the Rosé playlist is my musical
acronym is different. It is.
>> Who's your top five? Top five alltime
rappers.
>> Big Pop, Jay-Z,
Trick Daddy, 305 Miami, without a doubt.
He spoke for the, you know, spoke for
the kids. He spoke for the ghetto, of
course.
>> And we could, you know, we could debate
that.
>> It's too easy.
>> Who's your fifth? You put Nas in there
or you put uh Andre in there or
>> I'm gonna put um
I'm happy to say Nas without a doubt.
>> And when Yeah. And when I say Nas,
>> Nas spoke for
that that militant street, that wise
young hustler. You know what I'm saying?
He was fly with it. Getting to the money
young. You know what I mean? So, it's a
lot of things that go with when I say
top five. Even when I say it, my top
five usually change every week. I
[laughter]
when I'm smoking good and what I'm
feeling like. So it is like that.
>> Do you have a top five8s? Not even rap,
just 80s music. Cuz you just played an
80s song.
>> I played a lot of 80s song. When you go
EPMD, when you go rock Kim, when you you
know, it's just it's so difficult for me
>> because when I smoke and I lay back,
>> that [ __ ] is all magical to me.
It's magical in a lot of different ways.
>> Ros, the history with you and 50, is it
better now? You guys now friends? Like,
do you guys talk now or is it still no
relationship?
>> That's a nice alley hoop you just threw
me. But
>> you going to take it or you going to
pass it back?
>> Oh, I'm a wimp by I'm a wimp by
[laughter] that.
>> And a wimp by
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a one
by that [ __ ] for you. I got you. But
nah, homie. Wash. We've never been cool
>> from day one.
>> No.
No. It's big business out here. Big
money.
He not getting none of that. $1,500
episode payment check. That [ __ ] ain't
>> never collaborated together.
>> Nah.
I'm sure he would love a rose vibe.
I'm sure
I told you I'm a one byama. this [ __ ]
[ __ ] you. [laughter]
>> I'mma jump from the free throw.
>> That by the way, that would there ever
be um you ever saw the interview with
Shaq and Kobe together? Do you remember
the one where they sat across from each
other? I think Sha Magic did one with
Isaiah where Isaiah cried at the end.
>> What' he cry for?
>> Well, because you know Isaiah was upset
about some of the things that Magic said
and he felt like he was cut from the 92
dream team. That whole thing, you know,
>> he didn't make that dream. You didn't
make that dream because of Michael.
Special. That was a special dream.
>> Special.
>> Yeah.
>> That was the greatest [ __ ] ever put
together.
>> You ever seen this one with Kobe and
Shaq?
>> No.
>> Will there ever be a time where Ros will
do a sit down with 50?
>> No. This a nice alley. Go ahead, finish.
I'mma win by No. I'mma uh I'mma
[ __ ] shack this [ __ ] for you.
Go ahead and finish it.
>> Would it ever happen with you and 50
sitting down having a conversation? I
think the world would watch that. The
first thing I would want to know is what
is there to talk about?
>> This is this is a big business you guys
are a part of. You guys are two of the
heavyweights in the business.
>> I mean, what is there to talk about?
>> A lot of things to talk about. History,
the beef.
>> What kind of history that he couldn't
dress? That's all I used to tell him.
Yo, you can't dress. You're not really
getting no money. You don't own your
masters. Eminem saved you. Dr. Dre saved
you. All the big names. Ros did it
himself.
I came in through slip and slide. I had
to build this myself.
And I'm not I'm not speaking down on him
because he live in a two-bedroom
apartment. But
>> he lives in a two-bedroom apartment.
>> Two-bedroom. Catch the alley hoop. Now
you got to win by this [ __ ]
>> Two bedroom apartment.
>> Yes, he does. And if he does, what does
that say about him? Come on now. This
the alley hoop. [laughter]
>> Come on now. What does it say about him?
>> You're saying 50 lives in a tube. He
just did a big documentary on Diddy that
blew up. It was a number one documentary
for like weeks.
>> He just they just use him. They'll put
his name on there, give him 10K, and
that's it. He don't own any of that.
>> You think he's taking 10K for that
documentary?
>> What you thought he was getting for
Power? Google the the actors that was in
power. They spoke up. They was they was
getting minimums. [ __ ] is rough.
[laughter]
>> TV. Yeah, that TV [ __ ] is crazy. What?
>> Oh my. What did it say? Yeah. What did
he say? You let me know. This your alley
hoop now. Don't let me down.
>> Rob, you can't let me down, Rob. I'm
passing it to you. You got to do the
right research.
>> Don't let me down.
>> Can you go to the story? Let's see what
the story say. There's no way 50 is
doing stuff for 10 uh 10 grand.
>> Come on, man.
>> I do know they said they don't pay a lot
in this show. Go a little bit lower,
Rob.
>> No, this they talking about the power
pay complaints.
>> So, doing is more. These are the finales
and all that.
Come on, man.
But this what I'mma do for you. This a
nice alley hoop. Just cuz you you fa to
plug me with the Dolphins for you. Just
cuz of you. I let 50 wash the bottom of
my yacht.
>> You're going to let him wash the bottom
of the yacht?
>> Yeah. I mean,
>> you're going to be that kind
>> only because it's you.
>> Why? Your level of comfort is on a whole
different level reba. Come on, man.
That's
>> 100 foot reba.
>> Yeah. I don't like to see nothing green
at the bottom. He get the scoop the
goggles. Yeah.
>> The mouthpiece.
>> Yeah.
>> The fins on his feet.
>> And he could flap like flipper.
>> Wow. Yeah. Listen, I mean that would be
a
>> that would be a
good business, wouldn't it be?
>> And you're saying you would you would
pay?
>> He would get paid just like if it was
power.
He doesn't own Power.
>> Yeah.
>> He doesn't own none of that. His 10
million seller album. He doesn't own Get
Rich or die trying. That's why he
doesn't promote it. He makes nothing.
But 50 is a $200 million guy. Is he not?
>> Stop. Don't lie. Don't Don't lie.
>> Well, I pull it up. Maybe I'm off. I
>> People that really believe in you don't
threaten the [laughter] legitimacy of
what you have here.
>> I pull it up so we know. Omari said he
made 150 per episode.
>> Stop. Okay.
>> That's cap. All right. No, that's cap.
>> You're saying he didn't make the 150 per
episode.
>> He said it. I know him.
>> Got on power. Owed 50 cent money.
What's 50's net worth? I mean, I thought
50 did.
>> Don't Don't do that. Even though this is
a alleyoop for me. [ __ ] it.
>> Stop.
>> You're saying he's not worth 100
million.
>> No, that was before he you know the
bankruptcy and all that. [snorts]
Pull up the bankruptcy. Let's see what
the bankruptcy said. And how much did he
lose on his house? The Mike Tyson house.
Show me
consider ab Oh, 50 Cent bankruptcy case
reopened to consider abuse allegations.
Wow.
He's abusive. Mr. Alihoot. Come on, PBD.
Come on now.
>> Yeah. [laughter]
Why do you think he's loved? Why do you
think he's loved? Because you
>> loved by who, man?
>> Fans, fan base.
>> Come on now.
>> You don't think 50 is love? I mean, both
of you guys have had two of the biggest
hits ever in hip-hop.
>> Come on now.
>> Biggest hits ever in hip-hop.
>> Come on now. Let's talk about this abuse
and the bankruptcy. The abuse. They said
he abused his the mother of his uh son.
His son hates him. It's crazy.
pull up something that his son said
about him.
No, this was a nice alioop. We We 20
minutes in on 50. This good. I like you.
I like you. We [ __ ] on, homie.
[laughter]
His son, 27, is still asking for child
support. Okay. Okay.
>> This is who? This is his son.
>> I don't know, man. I don't know his,
you know, I know uh his the his younger
son. I met his younger son. I took his
son, younger son fishing before.
>> This is when you guys were good or
>> I called him Bruce Leroy. That's him
right there. The little Chinese looking
one.
>> Yeah.
>> Did you say the little Chinese looking?
>> Yeah. He looked like Bruce Lee. Like
>> Bruce Leroy.
>> That's what I call him.
>> And you took him fishing?
>> Yeah.
>> And 50 knew you're taking him fishing.
>> I don't know. He may have told his dad
like, "Yo, Ros, you know what I'm
saying?
>> Were you guys ever good? The two of
you?"
>> Who? His son.
>> No, you and 50. No, his his the son mom
used to over to be be on Star Island and
so little man been there.
>> I got it. Okay, now I know. I read that
story.
>> And when the mom be in the house doing
whatever she doing the little man out,
you know.
>> You got it.
>> Offers to buy 50.
>> So this is great. I mean it sounds
>> I offered to buy the son a puppy just
because I knew Bruce Leroy. What?
>> Catch that alley hoop now. Don't do me
like that. It is very obvious two of you
guys are going to collaborate on
>> I catch your alley.
>> I'm telling you,
>> you got to you can't be afraid of a
response from a minion. [laughter]
>> You cannot be afraid of a response from
a minion.
>> Well, listen for me remember
>> it was pull up uh what came up something
I saw yesterday I believe that what he
was trying to do uh yeah Daphne Joy was
Rick Ross calls 50 Cent Bruce Leroy and
says he took him told you. Yeah, not a
joke.
>> Bruce Leroy.
>> Isn't that kind?
>> Yeah. Very gentle for me.
>> Imagine if imagine if the boss Rick Ross
taught your son Bruce Leroy how to put
the worm on the hook.
>> Yeah.
>> [ __ ] dope, ain't it?
>> Yeah. Yeah. But but but it's fair to say
you guys won't be collaborating anytime
soon.
>> I don't know. Your son might want to go
fishing. [laughter]
>> I'mma put him on the boat. Let him go
fishing. Man,
>> you are.
>> By the way, how's your relationship with
Diddy?
>> I haven't spoken to him.
>> You haven't spoken to him?
>> No.
>> But you you guys never had issues,
right? There was no beef between you and
D.
>> Yeah.
>> I told you my homie Block, you know,
released music through Puff and that's
who introduced me really to the
industry. Shout out to Block.
>> Got it. So, you're you're
so to a guy as an outsider that's
watching in. But the important thing
here is 50 Cent Son got to fish.
>> Yeah.
>> On Star Island.
>> It's a very important skill set at a
great location. You could fish anywhere.
Star Island. Those fish. I mean, they
got to be
>> 100 million fish in the world.
>> Thank you. Thank you. Red snappers. You
get to see dolphins. The the dolphins,
you know,
>> Griffin's billionaire home. The dolphins
squirt at the top, you know, it's
almost, you know, they bust a nut at the
top of their brain. You know what I
mean? You get to see that
>> in live [ __ ] real time.
>> Yeah.
Yeah.
>> That was a nice alley. Who was
>> You think You think the market's open
right now for a uh hit him up 2.0?
>> Hit him up like what?
>> Like what Tupac did with that uh the
disc track that uh diss track that
changed the game when that came out. I
think I think no it's nothing like that
that's in that space because Big and
Tupac were both on that same level
right now. It wouldn't even be exciting
because you know
>> you don't put 50 at your level.
>> Of course not. He's a minion.
>> Would you put Drake at your level?
>> No.
>> You You're not putting Drake at your
level?
>> No. See, you might be I can see it in
your eyes. You might be confused with
the numbers and all of the fake numbers
flood the marketplace. 50 something.
That [ __ ] ain't nothing. Remember what I
told you? The streets are the streets.
If Drake was what he thought you what
you think he was or what he thought he
was, he would have been able to clear
all this [ __ ] up, address it, and been
moved on. He's still suing the label.
That's like him. He might sue you for
speaking of him on this situation. He
might sue you. He might send you a cease
and desist.
>> That would be a compliment.
>> This a nice alley hoop.
>> That's a nice alley hoop. Let him know.
>> But if it does, I'll definitely text you
and I'll say, "We got to share the legal
fees together."
>> [ __ ] Now
>> you We would share legal fees together.
We got the same lawyers.
>> No. No, we won't, man. He might sue you.
>> He sued Lucian Grange.
>> What did Lucian say?
>> I'm not sure.
>> Lucian is a heavyweight though. Lucian
is a
>> I know. I know. But it's got a little
bit dark when you diss certain people
and they can't deal with it emotionally.
>> They're embarrassed. They're humiliated.
That's when they sue
>> all of these people.
>> Did you listen to Iceman the the new um
>> I listened to some of it. My engineer
was It was horrendous.
>> What do you give it? Zero to 10.
>> Oh man, it was I mean Pitchfork gave it
I said it was mid. Mid meant five.
Pitchfork gave it a 4 point something. I
don't know. But it was like, "No one's
my friend.
You left me alone."
Oh my. It's that type of [ __ ]
Got to be a boss out here, man.
>> So nothing that would be in your new
playlist that you were showing.
>> Was it anything in my recent playlist?
>> And hear all of them. I don't know if
you got a You know,
>> I mean,
>> but have you personally listened to
every single one of this uh tracks in
the new album?
>> No, I couldn't do it.
>> You couldn't do it?
>> No.
>> By which one did you stop? Five. Did you
make it to five or six?
>> I'm not sure. You got to realize when it
was going, it's music people that's on
my team. That's I allow them to be a you
could be a Drake fan. If you like his
music, I don't I'm not going to tell.
No, I don't put we not on that type of
[ __ ] Listen to it if you want to listen
to it. And I had people that listened to
it by the fifth song they came out. They
was like, "Damn,
this [ __ ] whack." And they went back in
listen to it. I'm like, "It's not
nothing. That's dope. You you don't hear
nothing like Jay-Z and Alicia Keys in
New York. You don't I say you don't hear
none of that. You know this a
[ __ ] who always bringing up
Michael Jackson. Where a Billy Jean at?
What a thriller.
What a And my homies actually sat there.
They lost hour of their life for this
[ __ ]
>> Listen to it.
>> Yeah.
>> Are they recovering?
>> Yeah. Trauma. trauma. It's tough.
>> It is.
>> It's tough.
>> Yeah. When you when you've been waiting
after you seen people put ice blocks in
the middle of places and promoted and
marketed and the world knew what day it
was coming out and the [ __ ] came out and
and really, you know, folded.
>> How was it performing on the charts,
Rob?
>> Who?
>> I'm not tracking how Iceman performing
on the charts.
>> Ros don't
>> Yeah. Well, let's see. Iceman recorded
140.2 2 million first day Spotify
streams officially making the biggest
album debut in 2026 so far. The figure
ads place immediately pressure on
competitors and set a new benchmark for
opening.
Drake's Janice shut the has reached
number one on Apple Music. So that shows
it's doing okay. That's showing it's
doing pretty good.
>> I don't know what you're reading, but do
me a favor and pull up Spotify. Let's go
to the real streaming. Pull up Drake
Spotify. I don't that didn't even have a
logo what you was just reading. So you
might be an Iceman fan.
>> I'm not I've not listened to it just so
you know. Okay. So how do you go to see
where it's ranking?
>> I'm not I'm not sure. I'm talking about
the articles that look like the stream.
I don't know.
>> So Rob, why don't you type in uh Drake
Iceman then go to news review.
>> You like you like Drake. You like Drake.
You been talking about him.
>> Just so you know, I will tell you this
is the fun fact about me. I stopped. You
know, my hip-hop stopped in uh uh early
2000.
>> This not hip-hop.
>> His not hip-hop.
>> No, this not hip-hop. I like how he used
the Michael Jackson glove right around
the time the Michael Jackson movie came
out. You ride that wave. He know how to
ride a wave, but it ain't working.
>> He does not succeed. Pitchfork gives
Iceman a 4.8 out of 10. Okay, that's not
good.
Fans react as Pitchfork gives Drake. How
important is Pitchfork, by the way, when
they score you?
>> I don't get in the scores.
My music I've always made was in the
streets.
>> You quoted them, though. You said you
gave it a mid, but Pitchfork gave it a
48.
>> Facts.
>> So then that means Pitchfork has got
credibility in the in the market.
>> No, I just told you what was online.
>> Okay.
>> I said mid, which was higher five.
>> So you were being nicer than Pitchfork.
>> Oh, considerate.
>> Okay. Yes.
>> So, let me ask you, what uh to you, what
is the last hit? Like you said, we
haven't had a Michael J. We haven't had
a New York with Jay-Z and uh uh
>> No, we just haven't had it.
>> When we talking about big records, you
got to understand when you when you're
comparing yourself to Michael Jackson,
when you're comparing yourself,
>> deliver it.
>> He compares himself to Michael Jackson.
>> And and and when you you listen to
people and yo, play me the best five
songs you heard. this or that and you
hear it blah blah blah blah blah blah.
>> Does it show ranking on Spotify? I'm
actually curious now to see where it
ranks on Spotify how it's done. Oh, they
scored by
54 out of 10.
Clash 54. So based on weighted average
score 50 out of 100 from seven credit
scores. Doesn't look like a good score
to me.
That does not look so. So now yours is
coming out June 12th. June 12th, set in
stone. My new album,
Big Huge,
popping big boy [ __ ]
Rich Boy Raps.
>> That's a sick cover right there, by the
way.
>> Stone Marble.
>> That is a sick cover right there.
>> Thank you, OG. Thank you.
>> No, seriously, that's insane. That's a
sick. I saw that when uh Nigel, I think
it was Nigel that brought it in, right?
>> Shout out to Nigel. Nigel somewhere out
there. Yeah, Nigel came ready.
>> You already know. Yeah, Nigel came
ready. Uh, so what what should we expect
from the new album? Is there any te
anything you can tease us with?
>> He said te down. He te [laughter]
down. That's the first time we hear the
[ __ ] say. But no, ain't no tea.
You know what I'm saying? What it is
though is big boy [ __ ]
back on the throne. Ricky Ros, they know
what I bring soundwise, productionwise,
collaborationwise,
and then my the points that I make.
And once again, it's set in stone and
it's challenging to be my best album
ever. So, you could pre-order the album
right now online. Set in stone, June
12th. It's on the street.
>> Who to collaborate? Who Who's
collaborating on this? You will be
offended.
>> You will be offended.
>> Facts.
>> Okay.
>> Facts.
>> Any major uh collaborations in this one?
>> It's always major. Everything I do is
major. Big boy [ __ ] My next single
I'mma drop is Living Large featuring Big
X. The plug. Yeah. Yeah. And you know
the sounds. I had my brother DJ Khaled
and Dre from Cool and Dre. They was
over. I played a few records for them
and man, they were so excited. you know,
some of the things that we've done, you
know what I mean, in the past and the
music that I'm making right now, it's
just um I'm happy the streets get to
enjoy it, you know what I mean? The
music I make that [ __ ] for um the rich
minded. You got to have a certain
mindset.
Big boy. Yeah. But
>> by the way, what's the story with you
trying to climb Mount Kalamanjaro?
>> Yeah. I wanted to do something
different. So that's what we was talking
about at the top of the book. Me doing
something different like, yo, let's
let's challenge oursel and of course it
never happened. My doctor said you
crazy.
>> Did you start? Did you at least go to
it?
>> You know, I've been there. I've, you
know, but I've never went up. You know
what I mean? Shout out to the homies, my
homies. last time I went there and I
told them I was going to go up to the
the top of the mountain and my doctor
said, "No, you're not going to walk up
there smoke [laughter]
to smoke weed and your [ __ ] hip get
out or some shit."
So my mom and my sister, they co-signed
it and I was [ __ ] So we canceled it.
[laughter]
>> So never.
>> By the way, which do you prefer more,
you know, smoking grass or cutting
grass? Because I heard a story about you
guys when you bought the house, you guys
had your both friends just cutting for
two days.
>> Yeah, I love it.
>> Why cutting grass?
>> I I love being outdoors. I'm an
outdoorsman. I have buffaloos. I have
cows. I have dogs.
>> Did you say you have buffaloos?
>> Facts.
You see, I put on my cowboy hat.
[laughter] I got on AMX 95s with a
hoodie on with a G-Shock watch on. I
probably got 10 joints rolled up. You
see that tractor? I put tents on it. I
hook my Bluetooth two up. My Bluetooth
two up. That [ __ ] is over. Can you
imagine what it's like? I'm a John Deere
champion.
>> Did you say buffaloos? You literally
have buffaloos in your property
>> big time. One of my buffaloos done got
away.
>> Wait, your buffalo got away. Like it
left the property.
>> Yeah. Jumped the boom. Broke the top
half of the gate, jumped out. My
neighbors, they had to call, you know,
and I had to send my homies over there
to go get my buffalo.
>> How do you get a buffalo back?
That's it right there. That's my
buffalo.
>> Does he have a name?
>> Timbuktu. Timbuktu. It's a good name.
>> Come on, Mr.
>> Hey y'all. Look at this [ __ ] here.
[laughter]
>> So, look. Oh my god.
>> That's that's one of my cows. One of my
cows was with the the buffalo. So, I
love being outdoors, you know. So, I cut
grass. Joking about that. No, if I have
the time, I cut grass. ain't had time in
the last year, but I done cut trees
down, grass, all that [ __ ] [snorts]
>> Yeah. Jul Julius was telling me he's got
livestock. I'm like, what are you
talking about? Says, "Yeah, this guy's
got animals here." So, so it's a 328 22
acre property, 54,000 ft of living
space, 109 rooms, movie theater for 135
people, dining room to accommodate 100
guests, bowling alley, recording studio,
baseball field, tennis court, handball
court, sevenstar barn, and a
350,000galon swimming pool. Why buy such
a small house?
>> Great investment. Bought it for 5.9
million. Last time it was appraised, it
was over 30. I filmed over what, three
dozen films. It got to the point where
we we began charging the scouters just
to come look.
So, it's it's
>> three films on the property.
>> How many
>> It's been in three films, you said?
>> Over [ __ ] Damn near three dozen.
>> Three dozen films.
>> Facts. So many different places you
could film. different angles you could
film from. So
>> now this is Evander's old house.
>> Evander Holyfield's former crib that he
built for 25 million
>> and it's 54,000 ft or is it was it
46,000 ft or 54,000 ft?
>> 55
>> 55 I got to get these numbers.
>> Catch that alley hoot, man. You got to
catch it.
>> Yeah. You know there's another guy that
built a house in in Atlanta as well. His
name is Hubert Humphrey. I don't know if
you saw his house. He built it in one
say coming Georgia. If you go to the the
images, go to the second one, Rob. Yeah,
he's got another. So, there's a lot of
big houses there, but the one you're in,
you're saying is the biggest house in in
Georgia.
>> I'm not sure. I never even heard of this
crib right here.
>> Yeah, that's another one. Not that guy.
I don't know who that guy is. Maybe that
guy's the bankruptcy attorney or
something. But this was a I got a tour
of this house in 0708. It was a It was
also a nice house. Do you prefer being
down here or do you prefer being up
there in Georgia?
>> It depends on the time of the year. Once
the hurricanes come here, I'm different.
I'm in a different spot.
>> You head up to Rob. Can you go to his
house? Type in type in images of the
house. Rick Ross. No. No. Rick Ross
house cuz it's a ridiculous property.
That doesn't even look like a house.
How often you throw parties at this
place? I'm assuming you've had some
really big ones.
>> Oh, without a doubt. Without a doubt.
For my 40th, I know I spent a half a
million.
for my 40th. I had an amazing event. But
the car show now is that's what a car
show looked like at Rick.
>> Holy [ __ ] That's a car show.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. And this is this is it, right? Cuz
>> I've had over 10,000 people.
>> Yeah, that's the car show.
>> Facts.
>> 10,000 people come to that.
>> It's going to be crazy. June 13th. Get
your tickets right now. You better come
to Atlanta
>> for the car show.
>> Of course. It's going to be next level.
Big boys.
Big boy [ __ ]
>> Ros, now when when you're doing business
and you go into the room, like if you
were to give other business guys advice,
okay, how important is it building a
brand that drives attention to the
businesses you run?
That question almost sound unbelievable.
you was even asking me repeat that
again.
>> So, how how important is it to build a
brand, personal brand to help bring
attention to the businesses you're
running or owning? Well, it depends on
who's who are we speaking about.
Everybody's not great at being a
personal brand. You know, everybody's
not great or meant to be upfront leading
the charge. So, sometimes it's best for
certain people to fall back. But in my
situation, me being the voice of the
brand is always a great thing. Right
now, I have over 30 plus partnerships.
I'm celebrating 20 years in the game.
And I'm still excited about the music.
We still chastising the minions. We
still shooting threes from half court.
>> Yeah. Yeah. When I throw you to Ali
Hoop, you you got to win by Yama.
>> And by the way, I saw something. And I I
saw you said uh you have 3,500
songs [snorts] that you still have not
released to the Is that the number? Am I
saying the correct number?
>> I don't know.
>> I read it somewhere that you said 3,500
songs that has not been released to the
public.
>> I have laptops and laptops,
hard drives and hard drives.
>> How does the song selection work out?
How do you pick? How do you say this
doesn't make it? Is it like a process of
elimination? It it's whatever feels,
you know, who gives me that fulfilling
vibe. It's not about, you know, who
produced it. It's not about who's on it.
What do I play? And I stand up and I
jump up. Right. Then that's what we
keep.
>> But is it like 25 of them and then you
cut to 24, then you cut to 22, then you
go to 14? Is it kind of like that or It
is like that. It is.
>> Okay.
>> And then do you rank it? And is there is
there a number to pick the best song? Is
it the fourth song is typically the best
one? Is it not the first one?
>> No. Nothing like that.
>> No. No.
>> And that's just for the audience to
decide.
>> Yeah. It's it's for the audience to
decide, you know, what they love and
appreciate the most.
>> You know what I'm asking though, right?
Like do do artists pick the one like
let's just say you're doing an album and
every day you hustle and say is the best
song and you know it's going to be the
best song. Do you put that in six? Like
you know baseball there's cleanup hitter
and you put nothing like that with
music.
>> It's a body of work. What feels the most
natural? What feels the most authentic?
What goes together the best? What help
paints the picture of what we're trying
to do here.
>> It's bigger than just one record, two
records.
>> Yeah.
>> This is a full body of work. And that's
the way I approach it.
And then you let the audience decide
which one becomes a hit.
>> They ultimately going to determine
what's the hit. You can't tell them.
>> Do you already kind of personally sit
there and say, "I think out of the
record that's coming out June 12th, I
think these three are the ones that I'm
most excited."
>> Without a doubt. You most definitely
hear some [ __ ] and you say, "Boy,
>> this [ __ ] crazy. I can't wait to see
what the response is." Yeah. When I talk
like that, that's usually what that is.
So, there's going to be some diss tracks
that some people in the album that's
coming out, some names will be called
out in the album that's coming out.
>> It's a good chance.
>> Yeah, it's a good chance.
>> Is there going to be like a Leroy in
there? Bruce Leroy type of thing or no?
>> Oh, that was a nice ali hoop right
there. 50 Cent. You saw he threw me the
alley hoop about your son.
>> Yeah,
>> that's a that's a nickname.
>> Bruce Leroy.
>> Yeah,
>> that should be a song title. Could it
be?
>> Might not be too late. [laughter]
>> It might not be too [laughter] late.
>> It might not. Man,
>> the two two last questions before we
wrap up.
You ever see these guys online that uh
do watch reviews? You ever see these
watch review guys?
cuz you're a watch guy.
>> Facts.
>> What What's What's your favorite watch?
Like if you have a watch where do you
have one where do you have a big watch
collection?
>> I have a nice time piece collection. I
do
>> over 50 over 100 cuz you got 100 cars.
Is it the same with watches or not?
Really?
>> I got a lot of watches. I do.
>> Is there a favorite one you got?
>> The the vibes change.
>> Is there one that shows up more often
than others? Usually the ones that I
like most I rarely wear.
It's sometime pieces. It's sometime
pieces to me that just go with the daily
bounce,
you know.
>> Is there a specific brand? Are you a
Rolex guy or a Hublau guy? Are you a PC
guy or you an AP guy?
>> I got all of them.
>> What's the favorite one?
>> It's not really a favorite. That's what
I'm saying. It's kind of like, yeah,
it's it's a vibe, you know. What
restaurant are we going to? What we
traveling to?
>> Like, what are you going
>> How long will we be going? This is a
paddic.
>> Iced out.
>> Big time.
>> Big [laughter] time.
>> Bust down.
Uh, so, you know, it's funny. Uh, uh,
the guys earlier, they're like, Pat, you
know, this is the third Rick Ross you've
had on your podcast. I said, third? Who
are the other two? I know one of them.
One of them is Freeway Rick Ross. But
apparently we had a Rick Allen Ross who
was on the podcast about a year ago who
was a cult deprogrammer.
Okay. Where people who join cults, he
deprograms people from having joined the
cult. Okay. But there was about a a
period of my life that I kept bringing
people on because I wanted to find out
who killed uh Tupac. So I brought on
Free Freeway Rick Ross. I don't know
what it was probably 10 years ago. I've
did podcast two times with him and he
came on and we spoke and your name came
up.
When's the Because in the lawsuit he
tried to sue you twice. I've never seen
somebody try to sue somebody twice.
That at the end is it true that at the
end of the lawsuit he had to pay for
your legal fees.
He wasted a lot of people time.
I hope he's coping with the crack
addiction
that he been dealing with this whole
time. And
I hope your your your listeners I hope
you didn't disappoint your listeners
listening to that [ __ ]
>> Listen,
>> I just hope I just hope man you got to
keep you got to maintain a certain level
of quality and you've let you've allowed
it to dip
>> to to a few putting him on.
Um, I mean, you should go and look at
your go look [clears throat] at your
ratings. Pull up the ratings.
>> Type in YouTube Rick Ross Bed David.
Let's see how he performed. I don't know
actually how he performed, but let's
look it up.
>> Let's look it up.
>> Type in Bed David and Rick Ross. Watch
the cult guy come up first. 1.6 million.
>> The cult guy. You could
>> No, but right there, that's Freeway Rick
Ross was what, six years ago? Click on
that. I think it performed pretty well.
It did. Okay. 1.6 million. You want to
go to the comment section? Let's see
what the audience said.
So, I'm trying to see. I'm giving you my
last alley hoop and I'm trying to see
what you're going to do with this one.
>> It's not an alley hoop. This is
>> if you don't respect everyone, then
you're disrespecting yourself.
>> This is
>> like this many
>> informant/ crackhead.
>> Was he the reason why you named yourself
what you named yourself or not at all?
Was there any influence there?
>> He's a crackhead. What are you talking
about? Pull up crack. Pull up smoking
crack. Free race smoking crack. This
what you should be talking about on your
>> him. You you you letting me down. You're
disappointing me because
>> Where's the crack?
Pull it up. I don't see it. Pull up the
headlines.
You're saying now we're back in the days
cuz he he we know back in the days he
had issues.
>> We don't know nothing. I'm asking to
pull it up.
I'm asking to pull it up. Where's the
facts?
We talking facts. When he sued me, he
had to admit the facts about him being
an informant cooperating with this and
that.
>> We know that. We talked about that.
That's not something that we don't
>> Why you're not That's what people
>> Oh, that was the convers No, and we tal
that's why the interview did well
because we specifically talked about
that. He had a big role in that.
>> You ain't mentioning it to me as that he
was abusing crack.
>> I'm sure he came and lied to you and
told you he made $3 million a day and he
never did he ever show you a home?
>> No.
>> Did he ever show you a home?
>> Did he show you his car collection? Did
he show you his watch collection? What
the $3 million a day? Where was it going
to? Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. I mean,
thank you. Thank you. This PBD,
your listeners deserve better. This is
Ricky Ros.
>> Did he at all inspired the name though?
That's the only question.
>> I thought I've answered that three
times.
>> I don't think you did. I think you went
to crack and I know he had the crack
issue introduced to a lot of young and
it was a bad name.
Why would a crackhead inspire the boss
Rick Ross to want to be the informant?
That's not No, that's why the lawsuit
failed.
>> So, the two of you guys have never
spoken oneonone.
>> Brother,
you lowering the standards of the
interview. Now, we can't focus on crack.
>> If I ran a poll,
>> we can't focus on crack. I have a car
show coming out that's
>> so huge in the
>> if I ran a poll hustlers
>> if I ran a poll which we'll do that and
by the way we're going to plug every one
of those things every day.
>> Thank you. That's what we do.
>> The chips. I'm going to eat the chips.
I'm going to plug all this stuff in.
>> Thank you.
>> But if I did a poll,
>> Ros respectfully, okay, as a as a if I
ran a poll and I said, "Give me five
topics you would want me to ask Rick
Ross, right? the boss, you uh the guy
that has one of the greatest hits of all
time. One of the top five would probably
be the feud with 50 Cent, which you
delivered. You didn't hold back.
Respect. One of them would probably your
coming up and what you did with your
story of going from where you were at to
your winning done. Probably people going
to ask that name Freeway. I mean, even
if Rogan had Rick Ross on it, that
question was brought up. If I ask Joe
Rogan,
>> yeah,
>> the five questions about um
when it comes to
having guests and speaking on success
and not just trying to get black, you
know? Yeah, let me get some real one.
Yeah, man. Y'all got to have some real
ones really on your your platforms.
not no [ __ ] 40 years ago where nobody's
proven anything. It's time to really
That's the thing. That's the difference
about, you know, the social media and
what's real and what's not. These
[ __ ] will wake up and show you
they drip check and they jeans and they
jackets. No, show us what your TV sit on
the wall like. What you living like?
>> Yeah.
>> Show us that. That's what I want to see.
I don't want to see the imaginary where
your beer companies at. [clears throat]
Where your beers at?
>> We're gonna have some beer today.
>> Where the books at? Where's the It's a
difference between
the real deal
and when it's just cap.
So
I see it every day. I enjoy it. You see
it, you laugh. But when it's time for
the real deal, the real [ __ ] when they
want to know how Ricky Ross, you know,
how you really pull off the big boy
jets, the big boy moves.
My dentist, shout out to Dr. Mario
Mononttoya.
You know, there's people out here that
Freeway Rick Ross, he could have used
the teeth cleaning. Did you offer him a
teeth cleaning?
>> I should have.
>> Heavy plaque.
>> You think so?
>> Oh, man. That's what I'm trying to tell
you. I got But you guys never met
>> I got I got a dentist office. We we
actually was during a lawsuit.
>> Yeah. He reached out to shake my hand
and I didn't shake his hand. He said it
in an interview.
>> He said he called you in ' 08 and he
said he said sometime you guys
>> never called me.
>> He said and you offered to help him or
something like that.
>> That's
stop
big cap.
If I if I offered to help him, why would
he sue and not get nothing?
Come on, man. You got to be smarter than
that.
>> It's not even It's not even realistic.
>> He filed a lawsuit basing some [ __ ] on
some [ __ ] that wasn't even real.
>> But when you cooperate your whole life,
that's all you know.
We kicked him to sleep and we moved on
about our business and now we're
enjoying South Beach Brew beer.
>> Can we try some chips? Is that okay with
you?
>> Beer and chips.
>> Do it. Set it up. I'm good with that.
>> Thank you.
>> So Rick Ross sweet chips lemon pepper.
Rob, I want you to try it as well.
Come on, Rob.
>> He always call you Rob whenever he get
put in a tight space. No, this is not
I'm comfortable. You got a little
uncomfortable with Riff Ross. I was
asking that question. You got a little
uncomfortable.
>> No, this when you keep speaking on
minions
[laughter] when you speaking to a rich
boss and you speaking on minions and
>> Oh my god.
>> This [ __ ] is on minion time.
>> Oh my god.
>> At some point I got to say, yo.
>> Oh my god. Rob, come try it. I'm telling
you.
>> Poor Rob.
>> This is a sign that I'm getting nervous.
I want you to try some chips. According
to
you hear the sound? You know that Asian
girl that eats and she puts her mouth by
the mic so you can hear it. Rob, how
good is it? Really?
>> Pause. Pause. Pause. Pause. Pause.
>> So, I actually like this a lot.
>> Where can people find us? Is this at the
stores or is it a link they got to go
to?
>> Shout out Shout out to Rap Snacks. You
know, this was one of the the brands I
reached out to just letting them know I
like what they was doing and we did a
quick collaboration. Shout out to James
Lindsay Rap Snacks. [ __ ] shot through
the roof.
>> Must try. Delish.
>> Thank you.
>> Must try. So,
>> album coming out in three weeks.
>> Thank you. This is the real This real
boss's move. We We celebrating the um
part of Miami 20 anniversary tour. We
kicking that off. pom20.com
poom20.com
for more information on that.
So this is what so there's going to be
an event that people can go to for the
release of
>> live orchestra live orchestra live
choirs
>> go a little bit lower
>> big suits tuxes big diamonds then the
car show of course we have our beer
going on slippery soap
>> um the list man I just closed a deal I'm
now a part owner of Easy Field so we
what we do is pull up to your crib and
we bring the gas station to you that's a
jet. That's a yacht. Your cars. Go
ahead. Pull up that easy field for me,
please.
So, we actually closed this situation
maybe
um
last month and I began promoting it not
even maybe a week ago.
>> Can you put I actually want to see what
this looks like. Rob, if type in easy
feel. Is it is it with a Z or E A S Y?
>> EZ.
>> Not easy. E E It's easy as E S E A S Y
>> Z F I L.
>> Oh, easy. The letter E. There you go,
Rob. Rob was a spelling champion. Ninth
grade.
>> You see that?
>> Oh, wow.
>> Thank you. Thank you.
>> So, this is you.
Perfect teeth, beautiful home, nice
cars, great clothes, beautiful watches.
>> Now you get it.
>> All right.
>> And it's only one way you make it to
this. That's when you remove the minions
from the conversations. You see this? We
could fuel your boat up, fuel your fleet
up. Your wife doesn't have to worry
about getting a Chanel snatched at the
gas station at 1000 p.m. or being
followed home by, you know, it's it's
fun and that's what make me who I am.
I'm having fun doing this [ __ ]
>> I love it. And I'm going to make that
intro to the CFO of uh Dolphins. If that
ever gets announced, we know where it
started.
>> Of course,
>> Ros, appreciate you, brother coming out.
This was great.
>> Enjoyed it.
>> I can't wait to be back,
>> my man. I look forward to it. I look
forward to it. And if the the day for
the release was another day, I would
have been with you because June 11th,
I'm getting a surgery on my ACL. But I
wish you nothing but the best,
>> man. [ __ ] that ACL. Push that [ __ ] back,
man.
>> I've been push Honestly, I'm being
serious with you. I've pushed it back so
many times. It's not even funny. I was
at a meeting this morning. Like, how
much more time we got to push it back? I
got to get it done. Anyways, gang, go
visit. Go order the book. Go to All the
links will be below, Rob.
>> Uh whether it's the book, the chips. I
just had the chip. Honestly, I'm not
even sarcastic. It's It's incredible the
chips I just had. And you can also go
pre-order the album as well that comes
out June 12th.
>> June 12th. Set in stone
uh is everywhere. The book is out now.
The car show is June 13. The Port of
Miami 20ear celebration tour is kicking
off May 29th right here in uh Miami. So,
we having a lot of good things going on,
man. We can't we can't miss nothing.
>> There you go. Take care, everybody.
Bye-bye. Bye-bye.
>> Too easy.
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