Submind YouTube summaries
Thumbnail for Red Light Therapy For Knee Pain: Ultimate Guide

Red Light Therapy For Knee Pain: Ultimate Guide

Watch on YouTube

Video summary

Knee pain is a widespread issue affecting 25% of adults, with the prevalence rising significantly as people age due to conditions like osteoarthritis, meniscus tears, or ligament injuries such as ACL damage. While red light therapy has shown promising results for many, it is crucial to understand that there is no single "one-size-fits-all" solution; treatment effectiveness depends heavily on identifying the specific structure causing pain, whether it be the joint itself, surrounding tendons like the quadriceps tendon, or ligaments. Current evidence strongly supports using near-infrared light within a wavelength range of 800 to 1070 nanometers and delivering doses between 20 and 30 joules per square centimeter for optimal results in cases involving deeper tissues like osteoarthritis. Although some trial and error is often necessary to find the perfect dose, this specific protocol generally offers a safe and effective starting point that can reduce pain scores by two to four points on a scale of ten while improving stiffness and overall function. The scientific backing for red light therapy in knee care extends beyond simple pain relief; studies indicate it helps lower inflammation, enhances blood circulation, and promotes tissue regeneration. Research involving tendons and ligaments suggests that combining high-intensity laser or LED therapy with exercise yields the best outcomes, significantly increasing range of motion and reducing disability. For instance, clinical trials have demonstrated that active treatment groups experienced substantial pain reduction and improved knee flexibility compared to control groups over short periods like two weeks. However, evidence regarding specific structures like the meniscus or ACL reconstruction remains less robust due to a lack of large-scale human studies, meaning while individual case reports are positive, broader recommendations for these areas should be approached with caution until more comprehensive data becomes available. When selecting a device, anatomical fit and power output are critical factors because the knee is not a flat surface but a complex joint requiring targeted treatment from various angles to reach deep structures effectively. Devices like the Knee On Move Plus stand out as top recommendations specifically designed for this purpose, allowing users to precisely target different tissues such as the kneecap or internal joints without needing excessive maneuvering. Other powerful options include high-intensity devices that can deliver higher doses beneficial for deeper inflammation, while handheld units offer affordability but require more time and careful positioning from multiple sides of the knee. Additionally, wall-mounted panels may serve as a secondary option to treat surrounding muscles in the upper and lower legs, addressing potential dysfunction linked to tendon issues, though this approach has less direct clinical evidence compared to focused joint devices. Ultimately, red light therapy should be viewed as one powerful component of a holistic management plan rather than a standalone cure for knee pain. To maximize benefits, users must integrate lifestyle changes such as maintaining a healthy weight through exercise and hydrotherapy, ensuring adequate protein intake, managing sleep quality, and supporting gut health to bolster the immune system against inflammatory conditions like rheumatoid arthritis. Nutritional support including Vitamin D supplementation and evidence-based compounds like glucosamine or creatine further complements light therapy efforts. By combining appropriate near-infrared dosing with consistent movement and proper nutrition, individuals can achieve significant long-term relief from knee pain while avoiding reliance on invasive procedures like joint replacements when possible.
Read the full video transcript
Hey, today we're going to talk about the best red light therapy device for knee pain. And yeah, that's a that's a topic that will influence many people when they once they get older. Unfortunately, I'm not affected yet at 8:39. But yeah, who knows? Maybe I need the video in a few years time because I injured my knee or I have maybe developed osteoarthritis, which are very different cases of knee pain and that's something we'll get into in a second. We are affiliated with some of the companies in this video. We earn a commission if you use a discount code or a discount link that is listed below. We got these products free of charge. All our opinions are our own and this is not medical advice. Now, my conclusion here, just to give you the basic information first, um as as I said, knee pain there's not a thing such as knee pain. It depends a little bit on whether you have like meniscus pain or knee osteoarthritis or the ligaments, the um yeah, medial cruciate cruciate ligament or the ACL for instance can be affected. But 25% of adults have knee pain and that number is increasing right now and yeah, the risk increases with age. So, even though at age 39 right now, I may not be affected, um yeah, at 50 or 60 and it the statistical likelihood that I personally am affected despite exercise etc. is goes up. Uh right now, the knee osteoarthritis which affect many people has a pretty good evidence-based and yeah, I refer to my video on that topic below or at least on osteoarthritis in general, so check that out if it's out already. Right now, the new infrared range between 800 and say 11 1070 is is has the best evidence with doses between 20 and 30 joules over centimeter squared. If you don't really know what that mean, uh check my content on dosing below in the description. And yeah, there's a little bit of trial and error warranted. That's the case. So, if that dosing range doesn't work out, maybe you need to do a little bit less, maybe you need to do a little bit more. And then other structures of the knee, such as the meniscus or yeah, there's very little evidence and also on some of the bands or ligaments, there's very little evidence on on the tendon that move from your upper leg to the lower leg of the quadriceps, the patellofemoral tendon and ligament later that there's there's more evidence there. So, it it will work well there with a combination of amber red and near infrared. But, I would say in general the treatment protocols are all over the place, but I think in general with near infrared with like a moderate dose, you cannot go wrong. And my conclusion then is that yeah, the Knee on Move Plus is probably the best device because it was originally developed for the knee. Um you can really target structures very specifically, like like the quadriceps tendon for instance or the the joint inside the joint of the of the knee. It's great. The Chrome Iron Force is great here in my opinion, especially if you need a little bit of higher dose or you want to target very specific structures, that that's great. And a handheld device is pretty good as well, but you will need depending on the knee, you will need to treat um yeah, from different angles. So, put it at the side of your knee, in front of the knee at at the at the other side of the knee for instance. It may take a little bit more time, but it's it's it's yeah, it's a very good affordable option in this case. And like I said, overall my recommendation here is a dose of 10 to 30 joules of cm² with near infrared predominance. But, don't forget about lifestyle and nutrition. I'll get into these in a in in yeah, in a second. So, if we look at the knee uh we can see many different structures such as live different bands or ligaments at at the side of the knee in the front of the knee for instance and in many different areas different bones. Yeah, the quadriceps tendon for instance that can be so the muscles above the knee with the tendon that moves over the knee over the kneecap the patella. With the ligaments attached so all of these structures whether it's the muscles which is a little bit more rare or the attachments of that muscle on the patella and the ligaments there yeah quadriceps tendon. Which is more rare to be affected the ligaments at the side of the knee can be affected the meniscus which dampens like the pressure. Within the. Femur the thigh bone and the tibia on the lower leg. So yeah all of these structures can be affected and depending on the condition the even the physical therapy treatment I've seen these patients myself as a physical therapist. Working in a hospital and in private clinics for instance. But also yeah the treatment will differ in physical therapy but also slightly in terms of light therapy treatment and we'll get to that in a second. So why does knee pain matter? Like I said 25% of adults are affected that number increases has increased by 65% over the last 20 years. It costs lots of primary care visits. The osteoarthritis affects 700 million people. And yeah other issues in include the patellofemoral pain meniscus issues in 12% of the population. So that is like the joint structure between the femur and the tibia there's a meniscus that dampens the effects it's a little bit of an oversimplification but it's like a shock absorber in a way. And that is tear torn in 12% of the population so. Together with knee osteoarthritis, meniscus problems, um ligaments or band problems, there's there's a big part of the population that develops problems here with age. And I will say with yeah, the intense exercise that I do, I'm also in that category. So, I would need to be careful over time. And the knee osteoarthritis mostly affects people over age 55. And yeah, in in for many people that is like moderate or too severe and rehab would would help. And many people walk around with knee osteoarthritis that's untreated. So, they need new solutions. And yeah, because of the knee osteoarthritis, knee replacements have also become very popular recently. I will briefly go over my other video on osteoarthritis as well, but many of the things are already mentioned. Uh there's great pain-lowering effects here. Pain scores generally are reduced by two to four points on a scale from zero to 10. So, zero is no pain, 10 is the maximum pain that you can imagine. And pain is reduced by yeah, by 20 to 40%, which is a lot. Uh so, if you're at at like a seven in the beginning, which is like moderate to high pain, you go to the to a four, which is um yeah, a low pain basically, which is a big improvement. There's better better stiffness, so less stiffness, a lower disability. We need a lot more research, but right now, yeah, there are many mechanisms such as inflammations, blood circulation, tissue regeneration that shows that for knee osteoarthritis, there are very good effects. Um yeah, here in knee osteoarthritis, the most important knee condition, it's best to combine it with exercise therapy or hydrotherapy where you're swimming or exercising in the water. And uh a brace the high intensity treatments do better here. And like I said, the newer infrared rays between the 810 and 1070 nm range works best here. There are many unknowns um around dosing still. Actually, here some heating of the tissues because you're using higher powers devices will will actually improve the treatment. And frequent treatments are best. So, yeah, if you can do like four or five five times per week, that that's probably better. And after a treatment period, I will say that the study showed that the results last for many months. So, yeah, you can treat for like a month or two or three and then get results for like three or four months after that. But ideally, you keep treating yourself just like exercise. You You shouldn't stop with it. Then there are some other reviews on arthritis. Uh for instance, yeah, they're very good effects there for overall um results uh such as uh lower inflammation in both animal and human studies. I will quote here. And yeah, here again, there are questions about the specific parameters such as wavelength, dose, power density, irradiation time, and treatment site. Uh but light therapy PBM photobiomodulation or red light therapy in common language has been shown to reduce pain, swelling, and morning stiffness indicating its ability to suppress arthritic inflammation. But yeah, not all studies show great outcome, but overall um the the effects are very good. And so, this review was from 2023. There was another review from from the year 2000, but um yeah, I decided not to include that because it's too old. Then that's I I'll go So, that's knee osteoarthritis and arthritis. Now, let's consider the the tendon that runs from the upper leg to the lower leg. And here there's a study with 1064 nanometers, 45 participants. One of them is the high power laser and exercise group. That's group number one. And here they say that group number one was found to be statistically more effective than other groups in reducing pain, increasing knee flexion, and increasing lower extremity function. So, pain, range of motion, and the function, the ability to use the knee all went up. There were 10 treatments over 2 weeks. And again, the message here for the knee is to combine exercise and lasers or light therapy in general. And again, the medium to high dose works Yeah. Pretty well here, but it's quite complex. And read the full study if you want more information. The citations are listed below, by the way. Then there's a study on the on anterior knee pain, on the front of the knee, on in combat officer in police combat and police officers. 26 participants. The groups are a little bit Yeah, complicated, but the active treatment, the the pain scale between 0 and 100, they it was reduced by 13 points in the active treatment groups. They used eight treatments over 4 weeks. So, that's two treatments per week. And again, the dosing is quite complex here. Read the full study if you want full info, but here again, the Yeah, the light therapy, a combination of red and near infrared, worked pretty well. Then again, a combination of in this case amber lights and near infrared lights, two groups, a light therapy and a sham group, three times per week treatment for 4 weeks. And again, better reductions in pain in the light therapy group. And yeah, high intensity lasers work well here again. Then there's a study on non-specific knee pain from 2014. Again, a very weird dosing protocol. Read the Read the full study again, but a combination of red light at 640 875 near infrared and 9 05 nanometer with super pulsing, so it's all complicated. But overall, yeah, there was a questionnaire used in the study, the SF-36 physical component summary. Uh that that Yeah, that distinguishes between physical functioning, health, bodily pain, general health, and overall health and functioning improved and pain was also lower after the 10th light therapy treatment. And then there is a general knee pain study from 2009, also 810 nanometer light. So Now, then there's a general knee pain study from 2009 where they used an 810 nanometer light. Again, complicated dosing, so it's not like straightforward, but again, the overall the results were very good for pain in this study. And then one last study from from this year that I missed, but it's yeah, it wasn't found in Floddy My Ice Cream's Excel sheet. 60 women of ages between 18 and 25 with lasers on very specific points. And both group Both groups exercised twice treatment per per week for 4 weeks. The intervention group had better flexion and extension, so that's the movement in the knee. And better pain levels. So then there are some other reviews on tendinopathy, so that's that's tendon pain. A review from 2022. Uh It includes 18 earlier studies and yeah, here this review which which contains earlier studies analyses and integrates earlier studies on the topic here they show again that light therapy reduce pain and disability in the lower extremity tendinopathy so which can include the knee. And yeah, I will say that some of the other studies from 2024 2025 also show very promising outcomes. Then I will lastly say a little bit about this. There are some yeah, individual studies sometimes in animals on the meniscus on some of the ligaments on ACL reconstruction which is the the ligament in front of the knee. I won't go into full detail here because there's just not enough evidence because it's often one one single study. I will say that it's generally positive with pain reductions etc. But I I cannot give it's not too actionable because ideally I want yeah, multiple studies in humans on these topics. So, yeah. Given all this evidence I just went through let's look at the criteria that we want in a device that I'll yeah, go into a little bit more detail here. I only give you the device that I think are best but let's look at this. Ideally we want devices that target the knee structures pretty well. So, yeah, something that fits the knee the anatomy of the knee because it's not like a flat surface. It is like a round structure. So, ideally you yeah, you want something that is able to target that. Uh you want you would want to target different structures such as like the the the tendon in front of the knee on the kneecap for instance or like the joints the meniscus inside the knee by placing devices on on the anatomy of the knee. Then there's near near infrared predominance because yeah, as we have seen near infrared works slightly better in this case adequate power especially for deeper tissues so stronger devices might be slightly better, especially with deeper structures such as the meniscus or knee osteoarthritis, you would want sufficient power. And a little bit of thermal build-up is pretty beneficial and not not detrimental. Which again leads me to the best devices, the Kemble Move Plus, because you can target almost any knee tissue with that. The Chrome Iron Far is pretty good because it's really powerful, near infrared based, and you can really move around the knee at any tissue that we would you would want to target, right? All of these devices allow for like my optimal dose between 5 to 10 J of cm squared at very least to up to 30 J of cm squared, potentially more if you respond better with more. You can certainly, yeah, test that and try it and then see if it works. Keep continuing it. If If it doesn't work, go back to my recommended dose here. And but panels will should work relatively well as like a second alternative, whether it's like a wall panel or body panel, especially for like surrounding tissues. Although this this hasn't been shown in studies, so yeah, don't hold me down to it. But with [clears throat] with a panel, the benefit is that like all the muscle muscles in the upper leg and the lower leg will be better targeted than with like a yeah, like a Kemble device, which is more aimed at the joint itself. So, yeah, and it's not hard to imagine why you would want to treat surrounding tissues too, because um yeah, if you have like a tendon issue at like the patella, the kneecap, then it's not hard to imagine that there may be some dysfunction with the muscle that's attached to the tendon as well, right? So that's my recommendation here. Also, again, don't don't forget about lifestyle and nutrition, movement, exercise, weight management, especially with osteoarthritis. So if If like overweight or obese, that's a problem. Uh the more and range of motion, so you need to move the knee a lot. Immune system, gut health, especially with uh rheumatoid arthritis. Sleep quality, protein intake is important. Vitamin D with any type of uh arthritis. And supplements such as creatine, uh adenosine, glucosamine, and chondroitin. These are all all have some evidence-based. So, don't just focus on light therapy, focus on other interventions as well. And lastly, yeah, I use light my ice guns my methodology lovely. I use light my ice guns and gel sheet on this uh on joint arthritis, joint osteoarthritis, and pain knee. Do it those were the search terms. You could check the studies yourself for that. And also, yeah, more broadly some other reviews on on knee health in general and PubMed searches for knee pain. Citations lastly, and yeah, if you have any questions, leave them below.