Video summary
In this interview with Rainwater regarding the tragic death of Mo3 (Pop Smoke), he addresses intense public scrutiny and conspiracy theories surrounding his role as a manager at the time of the incident. The conversation centers on whether Mo3's manager should have been present during the fatal shooting, challenging the narrative that managers are solely responsible for every aspect of an artist's life outside of music production. Rainwater argues against placing undue blame on him, noting that other high-profile artists like Michael Jackson and Tupac had complex entourages involving doctors, security teams, and partners who were often more involved in their daily lives than a single manager could be. He emphasizes that his job was strictly focused on the business side of releasing music to labels rather than acting as a babysitter or personal bodyguard for every moment of Mo3's life.
Rainwater further clarifies misconceptions about what he knew and did not know during those critical moments, specifically refuting claims that Mo3 failed to inform him about threats before leaving his home. He recounts being on the phone with Mo3 while the artist was running around a car searching for his weapon, stating clearly at the time that he had no idea who or where Mo3 was going because they were not in constant contact regarding specific locations or dangers. The interview highlights Rainwater's frustration with internet detectives and media outlets trying to play roles beyond their expertise, asserting that such investigations should be left to law enforcement rather than speculating on social platforms based on incomplete information about the chaotic events of that night.
The discussion also touches upon the broader culture of blaming managers for celebrity deaths, drawing parallels between Mo3's case and other incidents involving figures like Nipsey Hussle at his store or Pop Smoke at an Airbnb location. Rainwater points out that these tragedies often involve grown men doing their rounds with various partners, security personnel, and friends present, making it unfair to isolate the manager as the sole point of failure. He defends himself against accusations of mimicking Mo3's style too closely after the death, explaining his decision to get a distinctive mohawk haircut shortly after leaving the car incident as a personal choice rather than an attempt to copy the deceased artist, despite public speculation linking the two events directly.
Ultimately, Rainwater concludes by reflecting on how people tend to blame anyone they can find when tragedy strikes, often ignoring the reality of chaotic situations where multiple parties are involved and no single person could have predicted or prevented every outcome. He expresses a desire for peace regarding these pre-trial stages and legal proceedings, noting that he has not been paying close attention to the details because his focus is on moving forward with his own life after such traumatic experiences. By sharing his perspective as someone who has worked in the industry since its early days, Rainwater seeks to humanize the role of a manager while urging the public to stop assigning guilt without full context or evidence from official investigations.
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You was on the phone with him that day,
right?
>> How long?
>> When he ran around the curb, around the
corner, was you still on the phone?
Yeah.
>> When he uh when he got
>> when he ran around the car, he he run
comes out. He runs around. He's looking
in the door. Everybody on the internet
looking at this. You on the phone with
him.
>> He ain't saying nothing.
>> Saying nothing. Saying where you at.
They shoot.
>> That's it. And they said he was
searching for his gun. So you're telling
me he ain't said to you where my gun at?
Where my gun at? You know what my gun?
If I'm on the phone with somebody ask me
where gun at. I don't ride with guns. I
don't even be around guns.
>> But you his manag
manage no gun. Don't manage no where
heing at. Don't manage where he eat
today. Don't manage none of that. I just
manage what I need to tell the label
when the music come out. I don't manage
none of that.
>> Yeah, we on 101
>> me the whole time. I ain't know what
happened. I would have been attacked. I
wouldn't know. I I don't know what
happened with the situation. It shocked
the hell out of me. But the way they
talking about this and that, you know
what I'm saying? And people paying this
and paying that and all kind of [ __ ]
>> And you telling me that the day when M3
called you and you were on the phone
with him, he didn't tell you this is the
person that's after me or he didn't tell
you nothing like that.
>> How can he tell the person after him if
he and you seen how the dude jumped out?
>> He might have had a clue, but
>> you know what area you in? You know what
you're doing.
>> You seen the dude jump out. So, how he
going to tell me who that is?
The police just you some people play try
to play detective more than the police.
You got to let the police handle that.
You know what I'm saying? Uh the dude
half three can't tell who that [ __ ]
was. So sometime just sit back and let
the police handle that. Like I learned
this whole situation. It's a lot of
detectives on the internet.
>> Right. You just held your hand up and
you said you was going to tell the
truth. Nothing but the truth.
>> Right.
>> You was on the phone with him that day,
>> right? How long?
>> When he ran around the curb around the
corner, was you still on the phone?
Yeah.
>> When he uh when he got
>> when he ran around the car, he he run
comes out. He runs around. He looking in
the door. Everybody on the internet
looking at this. You on the phone with
him?
>> He ain't saying nothing.
>> Saying nothing. He saying where you at?
They shooting.
>> That's it.
>> And they said he was searching for his
gun. So you're telling me he ain't said
to you, "Where my gun at? Where my gun
at?" You know my gun if I'm on the phone
with somebody.
>> Why would he ask me where gun at? I
don't ride with guns. I don't even be
around guns. See,
>> but you his manager. You supposed to
manage.
>> You don't manage no gun.
>> Don't manage no gun. Don't manage no
where heing at. Don't manage where he
eat today. Don't manage none of that. I
just manage what I need to tell the
label when the music come out. I don't
manage none of that.
>> But managers on a whole what I
understand what I understand about
managers and I know how you get into
everything.
>> Managers are like their babysitters so
to say. Hold on.
>> They have to do with everything not just
the music. They have to make sure that
all their entire life
>> a little different though. Um, three had
partners that was around him more than
me.
>> So, you know, um, you know, I'm a grown
man. You think I'm going to be around
[ __ ] every day? Nah. Hell no. If I
>> You were at a different mindset back
then than you are now.
>> No, I was not. I was way worse mindset
then cuz I the mindset I was in back
then, I thought it was going to continue
for for the rest forever. I ain't think
he if if I knew he wasn't going to be
here, I would have probably been with
him every day. But you got to think
about me sitting at home with my kids,
you don't you don't think this [ __ ] a
person not going to be here. So if I had
the mind frame like I have right now, I
would have been with him every day. He
wouldn't been at no girl house. He [ __ ]
all that [ __ ] So you know uh
>> but that wasn't the first time he did
something like that. I guarantee you. I
don't know.
>> You tell me you didn't know that he been
at this girl house and not supposed to
be at all of that.
>> You got partners. You got partners over
there all the time. You got brothers,
you got blood brothers, you got
security, you got all these type of
people that that did that outside the
music as they say. You know what I'm
saying? Y'all put too much on the
manager. Y'all don't question no other
manager. Why y' a question King Vun
manager and say, "You should have been
the one who took the bullet for him. He
shouldn't have jumped out the car and
did this." Y'all ain't say this a
Michael Jackson manager by having that
doctor over there. Y'all ain't say this
about Tupac manager. Y'all ain't say
this about a lot of people managers.
Don't put that [ __ ] on me because it
going to get views.
>> But you're looking at the the managers
that you calling out are people who have
gotten way bigger than Mo 3 was at that
time.
>> Um, no, not really. Who King V wasn't
bigger than Mo 3 at that time. Mo three
got way
>> that's the only one uh uh that's one of
that's Pop Smoke Pop Smoke Pop Smoke at
when he died too at at Airbnb. We
talking about Nipy Hustle did too. Why
you didn't ask Nipy Hustle manager why
he was out there by why why he why he
why he was out there by himself in front
of his store?
I bet you the manager knew where he was
though.
>> The manager probably didn't know. That's
a grown man doing his rounds every day.
Nipy Hustle died the same time 03 died.
Manager a manager's job to go do their
personal life. XXX. Why y'all say why?
Why his manager go with him? Go buy go
buy go buy that vehicle. It ain't no
manager's job. That's that that's
relatives. That's that's that that's
people that's that's security.
Managers like to be in every aspect of
their life so that other people can't
get in their ears and distract them from
what they have to do. I wasn't that type
of person. I wasn't tim artist.
>> I am Rainwater. I've been around for a
long time. I've been around since the
first [ __ ] since the [ __ ] stood on
stood on the goddamn table and did the
douge.
>> But that was the only that was the only
artist that was bringing you the money
in at the time.
>> No, that wasn't really Listen, there
wasn't really no money at that time. I
made more money than I and I went
farther when the dancing era was there.
When when when when when when the party
boys stood up stood stood on that table
and say hit them with that flex at PV.
When Kirk Oang was there when when when
people was going to spring blings when
me and hit the ho was going across the
world this and that. I made my money
then
>> I was full of lot you know what I'm
saying? So you know uh I've been doing
this for a long time where I was already
I my ass my I don't want to hang with no
rappers all day. That was never my
stilo. Like straight up that was never
my stilo. So you know um you know um
one thing I have learned about that
manager job people go blame people
people blame anybody they want to.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> When you know some people blame Gazi for
it.
>> They blame you more than anybody else.
>> No they blame they blame Empire more
than me.
>> Really?
>> Yes. Yes, they blame power.
>> Do they do the insurance thing on them
and say all the people that it's
clickbait? People want to blame somebody
instead of the people that said we the
one who did it. We the one put them on
the shirt. We caught them hands down.
Hands down, man down. We caught them all
this. I ain't say nothing about those
that people blame me for [ __ ] that that
people raising their hand trying to get
recognition for what they did.
>> [laughter]
>> Do you think that the the do you think
that the state
um
how do you feel about the way they're
handling the pre-trial stages of this?
Are you you think everything's lining
out the way it's supposed to be in a
trial from your just you and how you
feel about it?
>> I really ain't just really
been in the in the
I ain't I ain't really just been paying
attention to it. Not full time.
Um, like I said, when I get out that
car, this my time, Sean,
>> you I know you gonna be suited and
booted.
>> Yeah.
>> Is that why you got this haircut now?
>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Right. You And braid.
Let me Let me say this. Let me say this.
I seen yellow bees cut his hair.
>> Uhhuh. A lot of people say that you was
pretty much mimicking his style when
y'all was wearing y'all hair the way
y'all was when with he now he cut his
hair and your hair is cut. Don't you
think people going to look at this and
say what is Rain doing of now? I had a
mohawk with with three braids. The hell
I was doing I'm ain't lying. What the
hell y'all ain't tell me I look crazy as
hell with this damn mohawk the little
braids on top of my goddamn head. My
head shaved to the side. Man, I was
looking crazy as hell. I had to wake up
and say, "Nigga, what the [ __ ] are you
doing in life?"
>> Yeah, we on Boss Talk 101. 101.