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Tony Gaston addresses significant concerns surrounding Phillip Anthony Mitchell's podcast tour, specifically focusing on the ethical implications of charging high ticket prices and VIP fees for gospel-related events. He argues that monetizing ministry in this manner creates unnecessary barriers to access, potentially alienating those who cannot afford travel costs like gas or hotels, and risks having good work spoken against by critics. Gaston distinguishes between selling the gospel and legitimate business ventures such as consulting, coaching, or selling books, emphasizing that God provides for gospel work and that free online content is sufficient to reach the world without leaving one's household. While he acknowledges that some events may charge fees to cover venue costs with options for free tickets available for those in need, he warns against exploiting generosity or trapping people with guilt, advocating instead for a ministry model supported by church tithes or operated as a consultancy for other pastors.
Beyond financial concerns, Gaston highlights the serious spiritual dangers associated with touring and maintaining a high-profile celebrity status, particularly regarding sexual temptation and spiritual warfare. He shares personal anecdotes of having to physically push away women attempting to seduce him during VIP meet-and-greets, attributing such encounters to demonic influences or "Jezebel spirits." Consequently, he advises limiting access to such events and prioritizing family safety over fame, noting that touring often exposes men to exhaustion and spiritual drain. This perspective extends to his own decision to retire from touring in 2019 to focus on his family and YouTube platform, which he views as a more effective and safer way to reach millions of people without the high costs and risks associated with live venues and extensive travel.
To support those seeking deeper engagement without compromising spiritual integrity, Gaston introduces the "Purpose Pushers" community, an all-access membership focused on entrepreneurship with purpose rather than traditional religion. This paid group offers access to his "purpose formula," weekly calls, seminars, and retreats designed to teach systems for serving others while maintaining sanctity against energy drain as the brand grows. He clarifies that these gatherings are not church services involving prayer or laying on of hands but are instead structured environments for learning and connection, even though he personally prefers solitude as an introvert. The community aims to provide necessary support and networking opportunities for entrepreneurs who wish to serve others effectively without relying on guilt-based fundraising or packaged religious experiences.
Looking toward the future, Gaston announces plans for a relaxation-focused retreat to Malta in June 2027, which will not be framed as a Christian or prayer retreat but rather as an opportunity for rest and connection. He notes that while he does not personally enjoy large gatherings, he maintains these communities and events to provide essential support and networking for others who need them. The pricing for such exclusive events may increase over time to limit interaction with potentially harmful spirits, ensuring the sanctity of the experience remains intact as the organization expands beyond its current 3.5 million followers. Ultimately, his message centers on balancing purpose-driven entrepreneurship with spiritual protection, ensuring that ministry remains accessible, safe, and free from the burdens of commercial exploitation or spiritual compromise.
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Hey, hey, Tony Gaston's here. Now, seen
this right here floating around online
and wanted to touch on this because I've
spoken on this before
when some of the brother some of his
friends did a big event and they
charged, you know, $40, $50, $60 and
then like $250 for the VIP meet. and
being that he is friends with them, he
maybe knows the behind the scenes of the
financials and was able to see that. And
it's it's a couple things at play here.
One of the things that I think people
got to realize is
people have a desire for
fame and a desire for notoriety.
I think every speaker wants to tour at
some point in their career.
I don't really foresee it about being
like spreading the gospel because we
have the internet. So, you really don't
that's why I retired from touring and
speaking in 2019 because I have YouTube.
So there's no tour that I could do that
could reach a million people a month
like I do on YouTube. So the Lord told
me, "You need to be home with your kids
and stop being gone all the time cuz I
was gone sometimes five days a week."
And so I stopped touring in 2019. I
retired
and ironically 2020 the pandemic
happened. So I realized then that that
that was God kind of giving me an
advance, a heads up to go ahead and get
started and I got started in YouTube and
YouTube picked up the revenue that I was
making from speaking. But the thing
about it is with YouTube it made more
than me touring because
when you tour it does cost money. You
got to pay for the venue and you got to
pay for everything. You got to pay for
your flights, you got to pay for your
car service or your rental car, you got
to pay for your hotel room, all your
food. Like with YouTube, you just get on
here and talk. And so it is a cost to
what the brother trying to do.
And what I believe pastors and people
like that should do is
if you want to tour,
make it about something that is it's
almost like being wise as a serpent,
harmless as a dove. Like don't tour and
charge a ticket
for prayer service.
That's where people get confused. Like
make the tour about
the elevation tour, the
in my community that I got right what
you see purpose pushers, you know, like
make it about to where you still can it
still can talk about God. You still
talking about God. You're a Christian.
So, you can't ever separate yourself
from God. But when people see and they
feel like you're charging
for church,
you're always going to be scrutinized.
And that's why the Bible tells us, don't
let your good be evil spoken of. And I
think the thing that, and this ain't
even about Philip Anthony Mitchell and
just him, but this for all Christians. I
just finished our call in the purpose
pushers. And I told him, I said,
"Listen, the reason why this isn't
called, you know, like some church name,
and I'm not leading with God and leading
with scripture. I'm not opening up our
call with prayer. I'm not closing our
call with prayer. I am a Christian. I
don't have to wear that on my forehead
like, you know, I'm a Christian. I talk
about God. I'm going use examples from
the Bible, but I don't want this to be a
paid community where I'm selling the
gospel because you have religious nuts.
You have religious freaks. You have
religious fanatics. You have people who
have low intelligence. You have people
who have
social anxiety. They have community
problems. They have issues. And they
will latch on to anything religious and
anything about God. And
when you bring God into the equation, it
can be seen as a form of manipulation.
like you're using God to fleece people
out their money. And the way that we
look at it is if God told you to do it,
then God will provide. So
I heard the brother say his podcast
isn't supported by his church. And
honestly, I think he should reconsider
that because
if your podcast is a form of ministry,
then it's okay for your church to have
to support the podcast and it be an
extension of your ministry. It be an
extension of the church. And it's also
okay to have advertisements that are
healthy advertisements. Like if you
could be advertising my mentor.life,
life, which is a place where people can
go get life coaching or therapy, and
that's a healthy thing. That could be
paying your podcast thousands of dollars
per episode. And that's a fair exchange.
And
I would say this what I would say if I
was the church and if I was the brother
and I am and I feel like I'm called to
spread the gospel in person, I would
make that my church's 10% tithe. So I
would look at everything that's coming
into the church and if I'm bringing in a
million
a month to the church then 100,000
would go to this ministry tour. So that
way that 100,000 will get you through
five cities
and and at those places it's free for
the people to come and then they can
donate to the church or they can donate
to the podcast if you want that to be a
separate donation or they can come for
free
since it's ministry and since it's the
gospel and you spreading the gospel.
They could come for free and then let
God touch their heart to be a blessing.
And you will end up making more than the
$60 per ticket
and the $200 per VIP. And I'm And one
thing, you know, the the brother Philip
Anthony Mitchell, he he probably been
out here, you know, working and grinding
and in the shadows for some time, but I
just heard of him like the last couple
years. I've been viral since 2010.
So, it's been
2010 to 2020, that's 10 years. 2026,
that's 16 years. I've been viral for 16
years. I've toured and spoken on four
continents. I toured from 2012 to 2019,
every year,
almost year round. And that's just my
tour, not including all the engagements
I'm invited to speak at of other people
engagements. One thing I'll recommend to
any man of God,
limit access VIP meetups. It's going to
be all women.
I've been down that road. The spiritual
warfare
you're going to encounter.
I I I don't I wouldn't put that on
myself if I already have to encounter
that every Sunday at church
because I I guarantee you I never been
to 2819.
But I guarantee you they got some
lookers in there. That probably why they
have to keep them lights off. They
probably got some lookers
and he got to keep his wife close. But
guess what? On this tour, if his wife
not going on this tour and this him and
his homeboy,
and I'mma tell you like this right here,
some of the women you going to meet,
you can't ever be arrogant enough or
foolish enough to think that you've met
every Jezebel spirit in the flesh.
It gets higher and higher and higher and
higher and higher. That's why I I cut
off access because it it was like I'm
I'm touring. I'm doing these VIP meet
and greets and my tour was the real love
tour. So, it wasn't the gospel. I wasn't
spreading the the the Bible. I was
talking about healthy love and healthy
relationships. So, it was different. I
don't believe in charging for the
gospel. Like, if I'm going to do a event
and it's and I'm calling it spreading
the gospel, I would never charge a
ticket price. If I can't pay for it
myself, then I'm not going to do it.
that that's that's that God telling me
that I ain't supposed to do it. That's
me wanting to do it. If I I don't
believe in charging for the gospel in no
shape, form or fashion. I don't believe
in that. I I believe God is a way maker.
God is a provider. I believe that if God
is saying, "Go on this tour, he will
send a multi-millionaire to cut a check
to say, "Here is a million dollar for
y'all to do this tour."
It's It's people out there with it. Here
is a $100,000 for y'all to do two
cities. And that's y'all getting paid
out of there. 10 grand a city, 20 grand
a city, five grand a city. He go 100k
blow. I guarantee he got followers that
is on the Atlanta Falcons on the Atlanta
Hawks.
I don't believe God want us charging
anybody for the gospel because that puts
a barrier between them and God.
That just it just it don't make sense.
That's like that's like Jesus having a
ticket price to touch him and his
garment. Like Jesus having a like he had
venues. He had to travel. He had he had
12 people going with him. That's 12
miles to feed.
He ain't had no fee. He ain't have no
entry fee. So y'all have to rethink this
stuff to all the Christians because and
he not the only one that's trying to do
this. His friends did it and I had to
get on to them about that. that Acts 22
240 that Acts 242 conference the the
so-called prophetist Tiffany Montgomery
be doing
events that's basically a church service
that she charged hundreds of dollars for
to get in. Y'all have to stop doing
that. Even if your heart is pure, the
Bible say don't let your good be evil
spoken of. So when you have people like
myself
who
do not fear you,
do not envy you, do not have anything
against you, wishing you all the best,
hoping that you win, hoping that you
when people like myself are confused,
it's a problem because I am sober
minded. I love the Lord. I serve the
Lord. I walked with the Lord. I've been
walking with the Lord since six years
old. I backslid. I went to the streets.
I did a lot of dirt. But even then, I
ain't go too far cuz I knew the Lord was
c was going to call me home. I knew the
Lord was going to redeem me. And so, I
wanted to be known.
I I commend these Christian pastors and
all of that for trying to make money
outside of the church
and trying to make money
to put in their pocket
outside of the church so that they don't
have to take no exorbitant
salary from the church. But you just you
need to sit down and talk to somebody
like myself who has done it and done it
as a Christian
without it being without it appearing to
be selling the gospel. And so when you
got every Christian speaker
h feeling an uncction and a urge to come
to the internet and to speak on this
to warn the babies in the Lord because
this what y'all have to realize is like
when y'all say you spreading the gospel
and you charging a ticket price, you
open the floodgates. Like I believe the
brother is on fire for the Lord. I don't
believe his intentions are impure
and but I also know a hustle. I also
know a setup. I also know a parlay. I
also meaning I know that a person
will do free free free free for the big
payday.
A person will do free arena for the big
payday. Like I don't just look at it as
a thing of like, oh, because he does a
free prayer thing where they cost them x
amount of dollars, then that means he's
a he he's 100% innocent and 100% pure.
It's it's a the biggest scams in the
world is free entry.
And so that's what all of the sales
events are free. All of the the
publishing book publishing events are
free. The crypto events are free. The
real estate stuff is free. All of these
type of sales courses and sales I mean
sales conferences, they all free because
they f to blim blam you in the back of
that room. They literally tell you to
get on the phone and to call and to make
a transfer for 10, 20, 30, 40, 50,
$100,000 from your 401k to pay for this
product or this service that they
selling in the back of the room. and it
was free to get in. And so this the
thing a lot of times people will do free
so that they can come back with a charge
and
they eat like a king because they
already gave so much for free. And so
even if that's not his motive, he gets
lumped in with those scammers. He gets
lumped in with those people. And that's
why Megan Ashley and Jackie Hill Perry
got lumped in with the scammers. They
got put in the same category as Tiffany
Montgomery
because they want to charge for the
gospel. They charge to make disciples.
And
you you could look and and we all could
be guilty of it or seen as guilty of it.
But I try to be very clear and and I
don't charge for when you go to Tony
Gaston Academy. Not one of them courses
is prayer warrior course, disciple
course. None of the courses is
religious. It's all me teaching you
business, me teaching you systems, me
teaching you formulas, me teaching you
how I wrote a pitch to get on Oprah, how
I write pitches to get speaking
engagements. Entrepreneurship with
purpose. And purpose is not religious
because you could be serving the
homeless and you ain't even talking
about God, but just what you doing is
showing the love of God, but you not
selling the gospel.
And that's what people have to realize.
So I'm I'm coming at this thing with a
sober mind,
with no hate, with no jealousy. I You
couldn't pay me to trade places with
that brother Philip Anthony Mitchell.
I'm going be honest with you. I'm scared
for the brother. I'm scared for the
brother. Because when you got that many
eyes on you, I can't do nothing but pray
for the brother. When you got that many
eyes on you, you got that much clout on
your name, you got that many people
cheering you on, the fall from that the
fall from that grace, the fall from that
top. If you if you slip up at all, that
fall going to be so far, so long that
all I do is pray for men and women
that's in that type of light. But I have
a job to do to bring clarity to the
people who may be being prayed on or to
the people who are hanging in the wings,
hanging in the balance and are confused
by it.
Here's what I would say. If
you believe that the brother's heart is
pure, which I believe is a it's a part
in a portion
that is pure. We all are flawed to a
degree at some point and we all have a
past and our past could always be in us
and always haunt us. So if I'm not
mistaken, I think he did some prison
time. So the devil going that whatever
you did prison time for or whatever that
don't just go away. You you ain't just
redeemed once and redeemed for all. The
devil going to try you. He going he
going to tempt you. He going to tap on
that shoulder and he going to bring
different demons, different different
levels. Every level you go up, it's a
new devil. Every level it's a new demon.
And it gets more and more enticing. More
and more enticing.
And
It just as men, we're just not sitting
around all the time by ourselves just
having deep religious conversations. We
men, so we it's easy to fall into a
conversation about how bad this chick
was, about how beautiful, about how big
her booty was, about how it's easy to
fall into that stuff. Easy. And I'm
telling you, as a 100% faithful man, as
a relationship coach, me and my homeboy,
he was he was my O lineman in college.
He we played football together. And
after that seminar, after every seminar,
it'll be a conversation will come up. Or
if it was me, him, and somebody else, it
always a conversation will come up. Be
like, "Boy, you seen that one lady in in
that blue dress?
Woo.
That's the real that nobody gonna tell
you. I'm a man I know. And I don't look
at I don't look at no man higher than
me. I don't look at no man like, "Oh, he
just such amazing, perfect, never
tempted man. He is just blind. He don't
see nothing." No, that conversation
going to come up and I wouldn't even
bring up the conversation. It' be other
people bringing the conversation and
I'll be like, "Yeah, bro. I seen a boy.
I had a boy. I had to get her around me
fast, boy. Cuz boy, she tried to get too
close, boy. Oh, boy. And she had that
perfume on, boy. Hey, boy. Listen. And
boy, listen. Boy, she tried to rub that
booty on me. Boy, I felt that Buddha all
up on the side of my hip. I said,
look at this woman think she's slick.
They want to stand up there and talk.
And then that's the VIP meet and greet.
And I'mma tell you, man, after that,
after them seminars, you feel so heavy.
You could feel like the spirit's on you.
You could feel the spirits on you. It's
like
and you strong as you want to be. You
prayed up. You praying all day and it's
literally like you was in a 15 round
fight
with Satan himself, but he hitting you
with baddies with IG models. Yeah.
And you trying to you trying to beat it.
You you bobbing and we you
trying to get off yourself and he just
Oh, you got past that one. Here go
another one.
And it's just like booty booty booty
booty, breast, face, smile, lips, and it
just all that. And then and see the
thing about it is
a lot of women masturbate.
A lot of women got 10 inch 12 inch
dildos,
the rolls, the bullet. And so they
working they they working they spirit
up. Christian women. Christian women
masturbating, watching porn and
masturbating. I did a podcast. She
never, the lady never published a
podcast because I ripped her a new one
after the podcast and I ain't gonna say
her name. She prayed to start the
podcast and prayed to end the podcast
and then after the podcast told me that
she watches porn and masturbate.
And I ripped a new one. I said I
basically said, "Are you crazy?
Why would you pray if you know you
living in willing sin?
Are you absolute nut? Like don't ever
play with God like that. Don't ever play
with God like that. She never aired my
podcast. But when she met me, she
realized she met a real one. When she
met me, she realized, I don't get down.
I don't get down like that. I don't play
with the Lord, man. Don't have me
praying. Don't don't don't pray with me
and you around here joking off
intentionally on purpose. You around
here watching porn and masturbating. Do
not play with me. You just had me in a
seance. You just had me in a satanic
ritual praying with you. Don't pray with
me if you know you're going to live in
willing sin. I could see if you look up
at a guy and you he got on gray
sweatpants and you saw a meat leg print
and it and you had to catch yourself and
pray that that's different. Like we all
human but when you go through the steps
to sin or you playing in God face then
uh don't bring don't do nothing. That's
why I don't pray with people. Sometimes
people get on the phone and they said
Tony can we pray? I I let them know I
said listen I don't even pray with my
wife like that. Like I my relationship
with God is intimate. Like when I come
together in prayer, it's to cast out
some demons. It's it's it's really like
we really to going in. I don't play with
prayer. I don't play with God. I don't
play with the intimacy with God. I don't
play about God. I that is dangerous.
Like I was out there in the streets
playing with my life. I will go in I
will go in a blood neighborhood with
blue on before I play with God. And
vice versa. I will go in a
neighborhood with blood red on before I
play with God.
I literally will go on a eye mission.
I I scrap up AK-47 AR 15 that I got at
my house and go at it with the police
with crooked police and up target
practice before I play with God.
I'll be a one-man army verse the Navy
Seals the Green Beret before I play with
God. I don't play with the Lord. When
the Lord has spared your life, have
saved your life again and again and
again and again, you learn
when you experience the goodness of God.
You never ever ever
want to experience the wrath of God
ever.
And that's what these people don't
understand. A lot of people is playing
with God because they can't see God.
They can't hear God. They can't feel
God. So they will tiptoe and they will
play with God.
Like you can't even have the semblance
or the appearance of evil. Like you
can't play with God at all.
So, it's like if you getting ready to do
something
and the body of Christ reprimands you,
we're not hating on you.
To every Christian speaker, every pastor
out there, when you get reprimanded by
the body of Christ, we are not hating on
you. We are not jealous on of you. We're
trying to help you avoid
temptation and damnation. and we praying
and we begging and we crying out. Don't
let your ego go before you. Don't let
your ego get ahead of you. Don't Don't
be prideful.
Don't be don't don't feel like you're
being attacked.
It's just that we don't have access to
you. We can't reach you. So when I go
public, when I go online, it's because I
don't know the people. I can't reach
them. I can't text them. I can't tell
them. If I if I can, I do that. I reach
out. I have a conversation. I talk to
them. I talk to them. And then if they
don't listen, then I got to go above
their head. And it's no longer about
just them. It's about the people they
trying to impact and the people they
trying to affect, then I go to save
those people and say, "This person right
here is not right. They ain't doing
right. They they they don't listen to
the to the spirit of the Lord." and be
careful cuz you about to get led astray.
And I don't think the brother is there
yet. I I we all could end up there. I
don't think he there yet. But I think
that
spreading the gospel
for a ticket price
and making yourself accessible as like a
celebrity for a higher ticket price
under
the guise of the gospel is dangerous.
It's dangerous.
I would I I would say I I honestly think
it would be more
I honestly think it it would be more
fitting to do a
a tour on
church building
and charge a
$1,000 fee to pastors
to come out to the Marriott Ballroom.
room.
50 to 100 pastors in that county
all come out and learn from the brother
on church building because now you're
not selling the gospel now. Now it's
basically like you're a seminary school.
Seminary school cost money. You
basically now are being paid as a
consultant
on how to build structure on systems and
formulas and structure and and you still
strengthening the body though. You still
strengthening the body. You still
spreading the gospel because you
teaching these men and women how to
build a ministry, how to build a church,
and they already being paid from the
church and their church could paid
$1,000.
So now you get $100,000 every city you
go to. You can do
so 10 cities you made a million. You're
going to get more than that though cuz
you may you going to have some cities
with 200 250 300 pastors and
the $22 million you need to build your
church. You can make that in a couple
years by being a consultant instead of
being a celebrity.
So instead of being a celebrity charging
a VIP
because what the VIP does, it creates
classism
and it creates separation. And here's
the thing, when you're in that pull pit,
when you on a platform, you're a
celebrity.
That's it. I experience it on a daily
basis. There's it's women that it's
certain some women that see me as a
celebrity and they want to be in
proximity to me because they see me as a
celebrity. And I understand that. I'm
not blind to that fact. So
you got to think about it. A woman who
is soberminded
and a woman of God, she understand that
God has no respector of persons. That
God is no respector of persons. That
Philip Anthony Mitchell is no different
in the in the eyes of God than the
homeless man sitting outside of the
7-Eleven.
So, a woman who is sober minded, she's
not paying $200 to meet men.
She don't care because she don't see you
as a VIP. She she doesn't see you as
anything special because she knows God.
She loves God. She doesn't believe in
celebrity. She puts no man on a pedestal
or as an idol. So, she not paying that
$200.
That's the kind of woman I married. She
She not paying no $200 to meet nobody.
And she always tell me, she say, "I
would never be one of your clients." She
said, "I would never pay
to tell you all my business and to get
your input on my life. She was like,
that is to a stranger
and and it's it's women like that who
they just are confident, they
comfortable, they in their skin, and
they don't want no no
type of male influence or interaction or
what have you like that for pay.
And there's and there's nothing wrong
with seeking guidance. There's nothing
wrong with that. But the thing about it
is the the women who do it purely and
say, "Well, I'm going to pay this 200
not because I'm worshiping in him or not
because I see him as a celebrity,
but because I want to sew into his
ministry and I want to tell him what his
ministry has done for me and how it has
blessed me."
It doesn't benefit us
hearing a line of a hundred
women
and metrosexual and homosexual men tell
you how amazing you are is of no
benefit.
I've been there. I've done it. I've had
to stand and wait for lines of 200, 300,
400 people who want to take a picture
with me. It is the most draining thing
in the world.
It is the most draining thing in the
world. It is absolutely meaningless and
it does absolutely nothing for you
because you can't take none of it of the
praise because you know all glory is due
to God. So it don't do anything for you
if you truly a servant of God. It don't
boost your ego. It don't build your
self-esteem. It don't build your head up
because it going in one ear and out the
other. So you basically just standing
there for nothing. So I said when I if I
go back to touring and stuff like that,
I'm not doing meeting and greeting. I
ain't doing I'm not doing paid meeting
and greeting and all of that. Like yeah,
I'll sign the books or whatever like
that, but it's going to be very small
audience is very limited and to be
that's why my seminar November 28th is
$500
on my my book, The Purpose Art. Realize
it's not it's not the Christian ark.
Realize it's not the Holy Ghost arc.
It's not the religiosity arc. It's the
purpose arc.
And it's a book that I wrote. But guess
what? The ticket is $500. And guess
what? The ticket going to go up to
a,000. You know why? Cuz I don't want to
interact with every single spirit. I
don't want to interact with everybody.
And even with that ticket being up there
and half of them already being sold, I
know it's still going to be a couple of
spirits in there. And I'm going tell
you, sometime them spirits hit you, you
got to go to war. It don't matter how
Christian you is, how saved you is, how
prayed you up is.
The devil is the devil for a reason.
That's how David fell for Ba Sheba.
That's how Samson fell for Delilah.
Like this how men fall
by introducing temptation that is not
necessary.
Nobody needs us to tour. They could hear
us online.
Nobody needs us. Nobody need us to tour.
We could pray online. We could speak
online. Nobody needs us in their city.
When we tour, it is for our own desire.
It's what we want to do. God has made
the internet.
God want us tending to our household.
God want us up under our wife, not in a
cold hotel bedroom.
And I'm telling you, I'm telling you,
you not fixing
to stand in front of
a woman
in that VIP line
who is 6 foot tall,
no stomach,
teardrop booty,
perfect skin, perfect teeth, perfect
hair.
professional
work for CBS or Google
and is having a conversation with you,
looking through your soul,
sucking the life out of you with a with
a corporate Jezebel spirit. You're not f
to stand there and be like, "Uh-huh.
Yeah. What you want?" Uh-huh. Yeah. All
right, ma'am. Yeah. All right. Go ahead,
ma'am. You have to stand there and be
like, "Oh, okay. Yeah." Really? Okay.
Yeah. Okay. Yeah. All right. Yeah.
Uhhuh. Yeah. Uhhuh. Yeah. Yeah. Then
she's like, you know, "Can I get your
contact, you know, or your assistant
contact because we have an amazing
opportunity for you?" And all she trying
to do is get proximity cuz she know she
got to get on that phone with you. She
got to get on Zoom with you. And she
dangling opportunity that she ain't even
got. I done been through it. I done been
through it. women wanting to talk about,
oh, I could do this, I could do that.
Just to get on the Zoom, just to look
you in your eyes for an hour, just to
soak up your energy
and just be the fake.
And then we could think we have all the
thing, but it's it's always you going I
met one lady, she said, "Tony, I don't
talk to assistants. Bosses talk to
bosses." So eventually you gonna meet
somebody like that that like I don't I'm
not talking to your assistant. If you
want this opportunity, if you want this
donation, if you want this worldwide
tour that could put millions in your
pocket for your church, me and you need
to have a conversation.
And she could be slapped from Satan.
And I'm going tell you like this right
here. It don't matter how much you love
your wife.
Your wife ain't the end all be all.
That's how men fall all day, every day.
If David, the apple of God's heart,
ain't a ain't no ain't no man living
today closer to God than David was. If
David could look out there and see that
booty on Ba Sheba
and sin against God and have Uriah
killed,
all of us is capable of that. And I'm
I'm I'm going tell you like right here.
I I've been saying this for the last few
weeks. I done did over 4,000 one-on-one
sessions and I never met a woman I would
leave my wife for. But that still don't
make women unattractive.
That's that don't make a woman booty no
flatter. That don't make a woman breast
less supple. It don't change none of
that. It don't take away the glow on her
skin. It don't take away the smell on
her perfume.
So, if you're not a virgin and you done
slept with more than one woman, just the
scent on her perfume could trigger a
soul tie. Just the look in her eye can
trigger feelings and emotions. And the
way the male body works, you could be
prayed up and if a certain woman talk to
you or get close to you, your penis will
get hard
against your against your will. You
didn't will it. You didn't desire it.
You didn't ask for it. And that's when
you know that that spirit right there.
That's when you know, oh my goodness,
what in the world have I been sucked
into?
Oh my goodness. You start to contort
your body start, you start to what the
and you could feel it like it's like a
it's like a magnetic field.
I had a client that I met on the phone.
She knew
she had to see me in person.
She took and paid $500
to come to a seminar.
She sat in the front row with a one
piece shorts bodysuit on
cloth or cotton
thighs out
cameltoe
booty jiggling.
When I tell you I've never felt
a Jezebel spirit stronger than that in
my lane,
I say this how every man that come into
her grasps falls. You know what? You
know what that young lady eventually
created an offense in her mind
to unfollow me and get from around me.
And you know what it really was? It's
cuz I never bent to her. I never bowed
to her.
I never got out of character.
She tried everything she could. She
tried to strike up an argument with me.
She tried to flirt. She she she asked
for money. Asked for a loan into the
thousands of dollars. Like she tried
everything she's ever tried with any
man. And I passed that test. It was not
easy.
It was not easy. It was the hardest
thing I have been through. One of the
hardest. I done I done met a few women
like that. And I've had to pass physical
test where women literally throw
themselves on me, their physical body to
my body, and I have to push them away.
So that's why I'm trying to warn these
men that ain't been on that level, that
ain't been on no real tour before, that
ain't toured around the world. I done
toured four continents out of the seven
and tooured from 2012 to 2019.
What you going to see and what you going
to experience, you don't need that. Your
wife don't need that. Your marriage
don't need that. The body of Christ
don't need that. God don't need you to
tour. If he gave you a church, that's
where he want you at. He don't need you
to tour. Now, you going to tour cuz you
want to tour. But you gonna see what I'm
telling you is true. Especially if you
letting women get in your proximity. And
it ain't just women. It's going to be
homosexual men, too. It's going to be
men who posing as heterosexual. And they
just the they just the gay is all out
those. And they want to get up close to
you, smell your cologne, hug you, be all
up by you, and be and be gay as all out
those because they done met a lot of
Christian men who is gay, who is down
low. They they they already poked the
booty of some pastors, some speakers,
some teachers, some leaders, and they
want to get close to you. I had a couple
of them hire me. I didn't had a few of
them shoot at me through the DM.
Listen, I done seen a lot, been through
a lot, and had to overcome. That's why I
try to tell y'all like listen, stop
chasing, especially if you're a
Christian, stop chasing fame. Stop
chasing notoriety. And stop trying to
cover it up and gloss it up as impact.
And we don't need you to be that
impactful.
God got several other qualified
ministers. We need you to focus on on
your demographic. We need you to focus
on your city. We don't need you around
the world. We don't need it. Get on the
internet.
That's what the internet is for. So you
can reach around the world and back and
you ain't got to leave your wife in no
cold bed by herself.
You ain't got to be standing next to no
scallwag
with a demonic spirit on her that unzip
your pants and pull your ding lane out
your pants without even touching you.
Yes, it's real.
The people talk about this suckabus and
incubus and all of that. That stuff
real.
I'm trying to tell you that stuff real.
And and it'll make you get out of
pocket. It'll make you get
disrespectful.
It'll make you ruin your brand because
now people saying I remember I never
forget celebrity woman. She was talking
to me and she said, Tony, she literally
said to me, she said, Tony,
you need to be nicer to women.
What she was saying is, "You too cold.
You too you too shut off. You too like
you don't flirt. You need to be nicer."
And I'm like, "No, I don't. I'm having a
conversation with you. I talk to you
regular. Like, what you want me to do
here? Keep keying?" Like, "No, I'm
married." It's like, you got to realize
who you talking to. What I come from,
child. I I used to I was the type flip
and toss you in day one. Like I got to
keep this right here. Like I uhuh stand
offish. I know what I come from. You
hear me? Like I'm not f to play with
that. No, I ain't f to play with that.
And so I had to realize that. Had to
make that known. Make that clear.
And and I'm telling you, I can't tell
every story because it's it's the
worldwide web and you got dummies out
here that think they whistleblowers and
don't be blowing nothing but the whistle
you gave them. And Tony got
this. It's like woman you don't know me.
You don't you ain't got no story on me.
You ain't got nobody ain't told you
nothing about me. Cuz if it was, you
dumb behind would have done came out and
said it cuz you broke, busted, and
disgusted and need some clout. You're
not f to have no story on me and be
sitting on it. So shut that mess up and
tell what you got then. If you got so
many stories and so much tea, tell it.
Go right ahead. Tell it. You ain't got
nothing.
And so hush. So that why I can't tell
every story to try to help the way I
need to because a lot of the stuff is
too real.
It too real and people will weaponize it
and use your servantthood against you.
That's why I created the purpose pushers
and that's why I had to put it behind a
payw wall because I know
that the demons don't like to spend no
cash.
But see, think about it though.
If I was the false prophetist,
she would have called a group
the prophetic push
and then would be selling
prophecy would be selling the gospel,
would be selling speaking in tongues,
selling the Bible. And and that's where
we got to be careful with that. And I'm
telling you, the world
is looking at us
and they losing faith in God more and
more every day because they are looking
and they feeling like
that too many Christians are monetizing
God and selling the gospel. And that's
exactly what God does not want. He
doesn't want our good to be able to be
evil spoken of.
And I'm gonna tell you like this right
here. If you have to take to the pullpit
to rebut
online critique,
that's a red flag
because
I'm with you when you're right.
If
see I went on a podcast with a with a
gentleman who has lived we have some
similarities in our life but I would
venture to believe his story is far more
than my story as as far as the street
life is concerned to the point he don't
even tell his. And I'm okay telling mine
cuz it was just that small or
insignificant in my in my mind.
And I sat down with this gentleman
and I had saw a interview he did with
another Christian.
And when I tell you they was going back
and forth and arguing like cats and
dogs.
When I sat down with that gentleman,
it probably was one of the most mild
interviews I've ever had. And I'm
sitting across from a OG
with a with a with a rap sheet in the
streets, a resume, a street resume. Like
I'm I watch him go back and forth with
killers.
I watch him go back and forth. And we
sat down and it was all respect.
All respect. It was no rebuttal. It was
no refuting. It was no arguing. It was
no nothing. And I was like, "Bro, like I
said to him one time, I said, "Bro, I
want you to ask me the tough questions.
Like, ask me the questions that guys
like you from your demographic really
really feel about me and really think
about me." And he said, "Bro, I I asked
you, bro."
He said, "I don't ask you, bro." He
said, "I just can't argue with the
truth." He said, "I can't go BACK AND
FORTH WITH the truth." He was like, "I
agree with everything you saying."
And that's that is how the spirit of God
works.
If God gives you a message,
he's it the only
spirit it's going to disrupt is demonic
spirits.
If if God told you to do this what you
doing or all this right here, it ain't
going to bother us who is in the body
and praying and fasting and seeking the
face of the Lord. It's not going to
ruffle our feathers. It ain't going to
bother us. We're going to be like, "Hey,
go ahead, bro. Hey, go ahead, bro. Do
your thing." But see, I'mma tell you.
I'mma tell you like right here.
The Lord told me,
I can't remember what year it was. It
could have been 2014, 2015.
The Lord say, "It's a lot of people now
that come into your space, the love and
relationship space, and they frauds."
He said, "I need you to separate
yourself, and I want you to do a free
tour."
I did LA
in a theater.
I did Chicago
in a 2000 seat room and I did Atlanta
in a 2000 or something like that seat
room.
I had
over 750 people register for LA.
I had
thousands register in Chicago. thousand
registered in Atlanta
free.
I I paid for my flights for my hotel, my
food, my homeboys that I took with me
paid for their stuff. And then what I
did is I sold my books and my t-shirts
in the back of the room. And each city,
the rooms,
a lot of people don't know how to book
venues. So the room, none of the rooms
cost me more than 2500. that seat all
them people
and that's still to this day like you
still now now I got a room at the grand
high now ballroom at a grand higher on
the water for five grand
and that's food and beverage so it ain't
even the room fee that's that I got to
spend five grand in food and beverage so
I actually get to use that five grand
not just paying for empty walls and so I
say that to say y'all people don't know
how to build venues and the venues need
you more then you need them. So they'll
give you I I done wrote venues and say
my budget 600 and it's at the Hilton in
downtown Miami and they say, "Okay,
cool. Come on. It's open that day. We
need you, man. Come on in here. Maybe
your your people that's coming will buy
a room and they'll go to our restaurant
and eat." Like these people starving.
Like these people need to make money. So
it don't cost as much as people make it
cost. It's just when God didn't give you
the vision, then he ain't gave you the
wisdom.
to do it because he ain't tell you to do
it. So you spending an arm and a leg to
make it happen because he didn't tell
you to do it. But when he tell you to do
it, he going to make it simple. He going
to make it plain. He going to make it
easy. He going to provide. So I was able
to do those stops for free. And then
guess what? It turned into coaching
clients, consulting, ghostwriting, book
sales, all of that. All legal, clean,
good, healthy
business. No scam, no nothing. What in
Chicago it was so many people signed up
for a course and my homeboy thought that
that meant they just want to that I'mma
charge them when I get back home. I
said, "No, bro. You supposed to charge
them right there." He left thousands and
thousands and thousands and thousands on
the table.
and for course sales, all legitimate
courses from real life experience. And
so that's what I'm trying to tell you.
Like
I done heard three or four different
Christian speakers say if they was going
to spread the gospel, they would not put
a ticket price on it. When you got
Christians saying that,
you can't just sit and feel like
you're above every other Christian and
God talk to you in a way that he don't
talk to the rest of us and he's showing
you something he show the rest of us.
Will it be successful? Yeah, it'll still
be successful because you got a lot of
people just don't care. You just a lot
of and and I don't care. It's like, will
I will I pay for a for a ticket for a
revival or for a prayer service or a a
church service? No, I wouldn't I
wouldn't I wouldn't pay for that. And
then some I've seen some people say,
"Oh, he not selling the gospel cuz
church is free on Sunday."
Well, he said he going to spread the
gospel. So, if he say he going to spread
the gospel and there's a ticket price,
then you're selling the gospel. It just
you're not selling it on Sunday.
So, it's free to your city and your
members, but then it's a charge to
everybody else around the world. And
it's like, yeah, you got to pay for
production, you got to pay for venue,
you got to pay for flights, you got to
pay for all that, but that's between you
and God. That that's that's not the
person's expense if you if you trying to
spread the gospel. God foots the bill
for the gospel
because the purpose of the gospel is to
reach everybody.
So, if you have a ticket price, you
can't reach everybody.
You only can reach the people who can
afford the ticket price. But it's not
just the ticket price. They also have to
afford a babysitter,
gas, parking,
food,
or a flight, a hotel.
So
they're all spending a minimum
of
unless they single with no kids.
But but even at that, you still spending
a minimum of $100.
And right now 70% of Americans can't
touch $100.
So the people you reaching ain't even
the people that need what you bringing
because the people that need the gospel
the most can't afford a $60 ticket.
So you have to to reassess and you got
to think about it and you got to say,
"Okay,
let me just not say I'm spreading the
gospel and let me just say I'm doing a
podcast tour. I'm just doing a podcast
tour. We're doing a podcast tour with a
live audience
and because there's a venue cost and all
of this, we charging a ticket price or
it's a donation
for the audience, we asking that you
donate 60, but if you don't absol if you
absolutely don't have it,
we asking that you don't take advantage
of us and you don't scam us. And that's
between you and God. God knows whether
you have it or not and you just getting
over. Or we got X amount of tickets that
are donation tickets of $60 and we got X
amount of tickets that are free tickets
for the people who are just down bad and
all they can afford is what it's going
to cost to pay a sitter to watch their
kids, the gas money and the valet
parking or the self parking cost to get
in. And they just need to be in the
room. they need to be in the room. And
none of that has been said. Now, after
this video, it probably will be added
because
if you wise, then you listen to wise
counsel.
And and that's what it needs to be.
And I honestly believe that's why them
disciples didn't do another Acts 2:42
because of the backlash that they got
because they're wise
and I think they made a mistake. And I
then I recently saw I think one of the
speakers that was at that conference
they had one the the man I I recently
saw somewhere if I'm not mistaken that
he had to sit down that he taking like a
break that he stepping down or something
like that. I don't know what that could
be about. Maybe just need some rest or
something. But I didn't look I didn't
look into it too much.
But that's kind of stuff start to happen
when you step outside of the will of God
or you stop seeking wise counsel and you
stop listening.
But hey, want to pop in. I need to get
on. I just got done teaching our class
with the purpose pushers. I made that
name up. Just something something just
came to me while I was creating the
community. Creating community. Um
counsel the bless tribe. You need to
council the all access membership on
Tony Gaston Academy. It's all going down
in the Purpose Pushers community because
that's where we really going in on
entrepreneurship with purpose
and stepping into your purpose and
serving the people that you call to
serve. And the reason why I did that
behind the payw wall, even though it's
7-day free trial, is just for the
sanctity of it. It's not church service.
I don't pray with you. We don't speak in
tongues or nothing like that. I'm
sharing with you a purpose formula. A
purpose formula that I created while I
was on my three night, 4 day sbatical,
if you would call it, and wrote the book
in two days, published it. So, it's a
textbook and a workbook that you gain
access to when you become an official
member. And then we'll have a call every
week. Some weeks it'll be multiple
multiple calls and everything will flow
from there. So eventually the only
people that will be able to text me will
be in that group. The only people that
will be able to do a one-on-one call
will be in that group. The only people
invited to the seminars will be from
that group. The only people invited to
to the retreats will be in that group.
Because what I'm doing as my brand is
growing and it's over three and a half
million people across line. I have to
create different boundaries um to keep
the sanctity and the safety and the
sanity because the the larger
your territory gets, the more spiritual
warfare, the more demonic play out there
and just the more energy drainers and
just people just pulling on you and just
draining you and just taking from you
and depleting you so that you can't
fulfill the work that God has given you
to do. So
by having the purpose pushers community
where we diving into the business
structure and formula for when you want
to do something more than just push a
pencil on a deadend job and you want to
be impactful and you want to serve a
community or a demographic from maybe
where you've hurt or maybe where you've
caused pain
and that's why I created that. And
although some will say, "Well, Tony,
ain't that similar or ain't that this?"
You got to check it out and you got to
see. We're not selling prayer meetings.
We're not selling speaking in tongues
sessions. We're not selling laying
hands. It ain't it ain't none of that.
God God is the through line. God is the
foundation, but it ain't selling the
gospel. And that's what I'm trying to
teach all Christians of how you can
serve your purpose full-time and earn a
good living without packaging
and monetizing
the Bible. Like without monetizing God,
you still have a purpose to fulfill
where you can teach formulas and systems
without having to lay hands and speak in
tongues to make people feel trapped in
your community. Like if they leave,
they're leaving God. You could join my
community and leave any day. And when
you done getting what you came for, when
you fulfilled, when you got your whole
idea and mission and vision and
everything sewed up and you don't like
community, you no longer need community,
you're free to go because I'm not
praying over you and praying on you
before our meetings and at the end of
our meetings to put extra guilt on you.
And that's why the church is losing so
many people because they're starting to
guilt trip people into paying tithes.
They're starting to guilt trip people
into staying in the church instead of
just letting God speak and letting God
be God and letting the evidence of God
be prevalent and prominent and present.
So when I'm speaking on a call like I
did tonight, they could feel the Holy
Spirit without me saying Holy Spirit.
they could feel the flow and the
presence of God without me saying it. So
you don't have to pray on people and you
don't have to wrap people up in a bunch
of, you know, scripture and all of this
to make them feel like just like people
doing podcast on the Bible because
they know that it's going to draw people
in and people going to feel like sucked
in and like, "Oh, I got to listen to
this cuz it's cuz cuz she got a Bible
open." So, I gotta be here. And it's
like booing somebody at Apollo who's
singing a gospel song. And and a lot of
people starting to play with God like
that. And it's like, listen, find
something else to play with. Like, learn
how to live for Christ on your own time.
And let your your energy and your
meaning your demeanor and your attitude
and your service be a representation of
that without you having to package
and monetize
God.
And it's a fine line and it's hard to
understand. It's hard to see the
difference. A a layman may not see the
difference. A baby in the Lord may not
see the difference. But for those who
are called, but at battle and at war and
in spiritual warfare, you know the
difference. You know the difference. And
you got to take heed. You got to take
heed. So hey, this Tony Gins, all the
important links in the description. Join
us. Seven days on me. Check it in. See
the community. See all the amazing
people in there. tap in the in in the
little chat on the purpose pushers and
share what purpose is to you. Um, listen
to our first call. It's in the
classroom. You'll see the classroom. If
you miss call one to hear the overview
and everything we're going to do, we got
a retreat to Malta.
My retreats are just relaxation. So, if
you work really hard, you you making
good money and you want a vacation, but
you just don't you don't know like who
to vacation with or or your friends and
family can't afford to vacation with you
on your level, then my retreats is for
you. So, it's June 2027 to Malta. Um, so
mark your calendars. I I'll get the link
for it and we'll I I'll share the link,
I'll add the link to the description,
but mark your calendar for now. And um
and if you really really really want to
go u right now, you want to claim it. It
it' be about 5,000 I think um all in not
not your flight. No, I think it's three
or 4,000 and then your flight on top of
that. But if you want to to go then
send me a email or something like that
or in the comment and I'll grab their
link and share it with you. But God
bless you. Keep your head up. And again
the retreat is not a Christian retreat.
Meaning it's not a church retreat. It's
not a prayer meeting retreat. It's not a
prophecy retreat. It's a relaxation
vacation with likeminded people. I don't
like to be over there doing no coaching.
I do answer questions and all of that,
but I try to tell y'all talk to God.
Like, I'm not a guru. I'm not an expert.
Don't put me on no pedestal. Let's just
get out the country and just relax. And
I and I do it just for community. I
don't want to do it. I do not enjoy
them. I will be honest with you. I don't
enjoy them. I don't like being around a
lot of people. I am shy. I am an
introvert. But I do it and I sacrifice
and I put myself out there for other
people because I know other people need
that community. And that's why I started
the purpose pushes community for that
very reason. And so, hey, God bless you.
We'll talk soon.