Preston North End V Everton | Match Preview

Hello, welcome to Toffee TV. It is the match preview. Preston North End versus Everton in round two of the Carabal Cup >> played at Deep Dale. Still called Deep Dale. Hasn't got a silly >> sponsored name. Yeah, Deepale. Fair play to them. >> Fame at the root. >> Fair play. Although >> they did play the first round at this a park. It's just >> And when the draw was made, some people got excited and thought they were going back to go for the next. >> They did. They did. >> A taste of the medicine being in the OA end. That would have been interesting. >> Yeah. That >> that would have been very interesting >> being in the corner. >> Everton has been in the corner and finding out why people. >> Yeah. >> But they're not. And it is a Preston and Everton face. I suppose on paper looks like a trickier game than what what you want. You do want it at home Mansfield Town like that's what you want. So forever to get Jordan away in the champion against the Championship team in the first week of the Premier League season. Great. >> You know it's it could have been a little bit easier, couldn't it? Really? >> Even them at home would have been better, wouldn't it? Obviously, but you're right. Could have been me too shied away 100% or or at home. Um, and it will be tricky because obviously they're going to make big changes from what they did. I mean, the last round in the cup, the team's totally different than the league game, so they'll make big changes. But the big changes gives their lads the opportunity to stake a claim, doesn't it? >> Unless their managers minds closed off like other managers minds are. Um, you've got an opportunity, haven't you? as a player who's not in the squad, you got an opportunity to come in and and hopefully that's what Everton's players who who come in will do have got the opportunity to go, look, I am here. I deserve a go. That's what you've got to be wary of this early on in the season as well. You haven't got any rhythm going. You know, we won the game Saturday. Hopefully, we can carry it on tomorrow. >> Do you think do you think they care this early on? Like le championship managers, do you think they do you know what I mean? Just just the way football is. I mean, we've just listened to David Moyes's press conference and even he sounded so unconvinced about it. He was like, he has asked a question about how important is to win a trophy and he basically said, well, before giving Joe Thomas a bit of a hard time about it, he went, well, it's not as important to stay in the league. >> He did say though, >> words to those effect, >> he did say that. Yeah, I think J is just stupid when I heard that question. >> No, I know. But but what I mean by I know what a question is there just to to just to get an answer back opportunity. >> Um but I thank you >> and when when Premier League managers are saying when a Premier League manager who's supposed to be the manager of a club that is supposed to be sort of not really in danger but not really you know a Champions League team. So Europe is a really >> Mo annoying you at the moment. >> I found that feels like >> I found that a really annoying answer though. I felt like felt like that was picking an argument for no reason. He it feels like him and Joy after the press conference was done just after he's won on the first game of the season to throw a question back like that. I felt like so so if a manager of a Premier League team who uh sort of looked at it being in no real danger but no sort of can't look at this and god we we want to win this because this means you're getting into Europe and then you can go up and get into the Champions League. I think that's the answer Joe might have been looking for. So if a Premier League manager is looking at like that, what is a Championship manager looking at who who's also maybe in you know who's also Preston, you know, maybe looked at as a relegation team this season in Championship maybe. So how how would they be looking at it? >> It's a tough it's a tough one to answer for them. I mean last year they were the first half of the season they looked like they were going to be in the playoffs. They're the poor Harrison Armson left and they trailed off of it. So listen, I don't know. I do like Paul Hecken Bottom as a manager. So I don't I think that Preston will be fine. Um but yeah, it won't be his number one priority. They'll obviously it's a free for them, isn't it? They're just playing a Premier League team. They're more concerned with getting the league form right. Everton should win. So therefore, if they get beaten bottom and be like, "Well, it's a Premier League team, you know, and they beat us. That's that's so they should >> that if they get a positive result then it kickstarts them doesn't it in some respects but you that many changes >> it doesn't have the what it does is it gives the fans a boost but it doesn't really give the team a boost that made the last >> I wor not worry I wonder whether their fans or or fans in the championship actually care anymore in terms of like when the league you know cuz it's such early days of the league season like and there's so many games. Do they start caring about beating a team in the Premier League like now or do they you know or is it like if you get to the quarterfinals then you beat but do but do they but I don't know if they do though I I just don't >> if Evan got Man City in the next round at home. No, that's that's us. I'm talking about a championship team because I just I just don't >> I don't know if the I think the dream is that far away now for a lot of clubs, including Premier League teams >> that I wonder whether these these fans actually care anymore because it just seems so far away they care. Regardless, beating Everton will be a big thing for them. >> But in the Northwest, we're quite localish, aren't we? Really, we're a Premier League team. They beat us. Not saying it's the be all and end all for them to like FA Cup fifth round and you you know like when Southampton beat Arsenal last season in the quarters and got to Wembley. >> It's obviously that's different when you're playing a team like that. I think I think Arsenal beat Preston. Do >> you think they care if they get beat by Everton? >> Probably not. No. >> Yeah, that's probably more what I was probably they probably will just be like well they should beat us Premier League and it'll just be relaxed by it. But still think they'd like to beat Ev. From our perspective, we it's about momentum building now, you know, and I think got a good good result Saturday. We've got a real tough game at the weekend against Bournemouth. You keep everything just ticking over. We go to deep tomorrow, get a positive result. It keeps everything ticking over, doesn't it? Well, I think from that point of view, I mean certainly we we know last season again last season at this stage we were playing at home against and you don't mind change making the changes but obviously then we went to Wolves and we made a lot of changes. So for in that instance because this game is away and it's against tougher tougher opposition than we faced last year. What what are you looking for in terms of like making changes? Then again, I think I said on the final word, there's an argument for him making 10 changes, [music] but to keep everyone up to speed at the squad, but that's too risky cuz how many times do we see it? We've seen it. We've seen it a lot of times over the years where we've made that many changes and you should be able to make that many changes because they're all Premier League footballers, but they come in, they don't look like a team cuz why would they? They don't play together >> and you end up struggling, you know, and that Wolves game was really poor. It was really poor. We had a little bit of momentum and we went to Wolves and we made the changes and they they made as many but [music] they lad their lad took it on, didn't he? And won the game and we were all over the place. So we've we've been witnessed to that a few times. Remember Norwich at Goodson a few years ago under Kumman and he made 10 changes. We got most of them in the '90s. >> Loads of them. But what I'm saying is when you make wholesale changes. So personally >> the goalkeeper plays for me. Pigford. I wouldn't change Pford. Uh I think maybe but I'd have Jordan in goal. Uh maybe five or six because you have to I feel like you have to make that many changes because I think you've got to give Tyler Dibling deserves to play Ben and Johnson getting a start at the minute and you want him up to speed in case you need him. Um midfield is I said midfield's quite a tricky one to change because we haven't got the numbers >> really at the minute. Um maybe not maybe four maybe four changes but I would me personally I'd have I think it'll be keen in O'Brien you see and that's an interesting one with Jake after what's come out in the last 24 hours that you know it's definitely being pushed by Jake side that he he wants to leave >> if he's not going to be guaranteed 13 football. So it's an interesting one. >> Yeah. >> I'd only make three myself. I'd make three. I I >> I don't think there's any need for changes personally. I think this early in the season I don't think there's any need for changes. I think >> maybe two or three three four are an absolute push. >> Brandweight I think definitely would come out to the team because I think >> as you're managing and you're looking after them >> and I think you know you're looking for the long longer term I think he has to come out and then it's a flip of a coin going for a few others the wide areas maybe the left back but I'd only I'd only make them. I think this should be this should be part of the process of and then you try and win the game and you try and get subs on early and you give them a run and you try and get your James Garner on and give him half an hour and step him up and and Brenon Johnson exactly the same. Let's let's not forget he didn't have preseason. So let's not worry let's not go let's not worry too much about like saying he must start whereas Tyler Dibland did have a preseason probably does deserve to start >> but I would keep it mostly as it is cuz I just think it's a case of getting through >> and then you have brought in two or three and you don't get that thing of in the next round when you're making wholesale changes >> um and you've got people knocking on the door but I I just wonder I wonder how David Moyes thinks about >> that's what I'm saying personally when you look at it you can make the you want to win games so you're right? He probably make three at the most. But I'm looking at him and the way he'll be looking at his squad and think, well, there's an opportunity to build other players fitness levels up. So therefore, I it's all about trust, isn't it? And we're talking about substitutes as well and everything. >> You get the lads levels up and they're playing games, then does he trust them more with game? >> Football managers always like you you said it before about being playing together. football ma football managers will and we've seen this on loads of different managers will will always go that team is good enough to beat but it's like no no those individuals were good enough to beat that team but when you've just packaged the team together >> a starting 11 that have never played together before like why would you think that >> they're going to go out there and and put a performance together where you know >> and I think that's more the more the case of when players are just not playing together or haven't played together that's the problem isn't it and that's why I'd keep most of the team together and make those little subtle changes cuz I think I think you know Everton should win this game and if Everton was to play the team that they played on Saturday they would win they will win the game but it's when you start making those little change too many changes and then and I just wonder whether David Moyes even worries about like how it affects the fans and what the fans have got to say and I I don't I don't really think he cares or and and as a manager I suppose you you shouldn't care because that's your to to be above all that. But that that will make it interesting. I just I just think making wholesale changes would be would be just >> counterproductive at this stage. >> If you look at I mean we've got their form on obviously James put on there. I mean you know in the championship Bolton beat them day one. Wolves beat them last week. You know they beat um Huddersfield on penalties at Gooderson didn't he? And obviously >> we're beating Stockport in a friendly and Bradford. So they haven't had a great start themselves and he will make changes. So it's whether or not David Moyes looks and things just get through it. Yeah. >> Take the the sort of sting out of anyone moaning by, you know, making four, like you said, four maximum. Get the job done cuz a lot of fans will say the same. Get the job done by an hour or so and then then bring the changes on. And there will be those obviously there'll be those players >> that are close and it's a flip of a coin who you pick you know in the team and you mentioned one before like Dibblin. Um then feel like you said pick yourself you there aren't too. The funny thing is there aren't too many. You might look at right back and go well I was thinking maybe I might put someone else at right back. So then do you put I don't you know off top of me head I'm not really think Patterson. Yeah. new signing. Um, but apart from that, I just I I don't look at too many and think, oh, you deserve >> the two center backs will be Keen and O'Brien. >> I don't think Keen should play. I think O'Brien should I don't think Keen should play. I think it should be >> and he name checked them in the press. >> I don't think Keen and O'Brien should start. But I but again, they're two that you can sort of bring in and you know they'll they'll be they'll be all right for the most part. But then the problem with that is then once you've made those double chains then you're not going to bring as in >> cuz suddenly you've made three changes and your right back's not a right back. So suddenly you're looking at it and that's that to me >> that's why I picked one. >> Yeah. And that to me is like sort of where >> I don't like that because I'd rather go I don't want as to play cuz really out of the players you should be playing in a back four should be given opportunity it's as new but then soon as you change your back the center backs >> you're just not bring you're not playing as new are you? And I suppose that's the that's the annoying part of it. But but Everton should have enough and fans will just hope that we just get the job done. And it's it's one of those nights where you just go Evan have gone got a couple of goals, no force >> and a through and then it's on to onto Saturday and it's onto the next round. And you know the problem is is David Moyes can say things to journalists about how serious but football fans will Everton fans will just go back to WSN last year and go >> to us you didn't show respect for the to to that >> to the trophy and to us >> as a fan base and and and >> and really apart from what one semifinal under David Moyes. You know, I know we got to another semi-final under Roberto Mart, but >> apart from that semi-final, this trophy has been absolutely bleak for us. And we know that if you get through in the if you can win this, like we saw, you know, I mean, only really Newcastle have broken the pattern, haven't they? If you can win this trophy and you get into Europe, as we've said many times, it's like once you get into Europe, we've seen in the last few years, Palace, Chelsea, >> West Ham, Villa, you know, get into that first one, go and win that >> and then you're into the you're into, you know, then you push on to the uh Europa League and that the moment seems like the most viable way of getting >> but also not only the most viable way getting to the Champions League, but opportunities to win trophies as well. And as David Moyes said, expand your squad, start using your squad. >> And you can only you I think you the manager was right to be asked that question because ultimately >> there's no proof that we've really took this trophy very seriously. But what >> in our in our lifetimes, you know, >> what if we had a couple of semis in a final? Yeah, >> that's it. That's it. One final, you know, that was 40 years ago. We were robbed. But there you go. Yeah, the manager can say whatever. Fans will pick whatever they want out of it. >> I know, but come on. He had an argument with the journalist over it. >> No, no, but I'm saying but if he either said I'm saying it 100% seriously and he makes eight changes tomorrow, people will go, "What's he on about?" Or if he says, "No, I'm not really bothered about it." >> Do you know what I mean? It's a proof. Everything's all about results really. And he's he's got a show. He's he's he values it by making sure we win the game. And that's what we should do tomorrow regardless of the changes both teams make. Everton playing the Premier League, Weston playing the Championship. So, and I know it's decided on the night. Our players coming in have got to really go out and want to win that game. And >> it'll be a tough game cuz cuz it will be. But we should have enough >> and we have to we have to prove that we've got enough and then >> it's about, you know, building onto that squad then. But he he'll only >> he's got to demonstrate it by making sure the lads are fired up, ready to go and do it. Yeah. >> I know. That's absolutely absolutely. There you go. Let us know your thoughts in the comments on how you're feeling ahead of this game. How many changes should be made and those changes would you like to see brought in to the side? And who would you like to see go out to the side? Let us know your thoughts in the comments. I'll be doing my starting 11 show as well and we'll have all the reaction after the game as well. So, make sure you check that out. Give this video a like. Subscribe if you haven't already. We want more great videos. Join us over on Toffee TV Premiere. Link is in the description. QR codes come on screen now. See you later.