Video summary
The parliamentary session focused extensively on critical issues within justice, health, and social care portfolios, addressing urgent concerns raised by various members regarding vulnerable populations and systemic inefficiencies. In the justice sector, significant attention was given to the protection of Southeast Asian children, with the government confirming over £2 million in annual funding for specialist support through Guardianship Scotland while emphasizing the necessity of partnership working. Concerns were also raised about counterfeit cigarettes undermining legitimate businesses; however, the Minister highlighted existing enforcement powers and ongoing reviews regarding closure orders and workforce planning for Trading Standards, acknowledging staff shortages but noting that deployment decisions remain with local authorities. Furthermore, the government outlined a robust strategy to tackle rural domestic abuse through the "Equally Safe" initiative, which includes a new multi-year fund totaling nearly £46 million to ensure equal access regardless of location, alongside plans to increase High Court capacity to 26 trials per day and invest £11.6 billion between 2026 and 2029 to reduce criminal court backlogs.
Health portfolio questions centered on innovative medical advancements and the equitable delivery of essential services across Scotland. The Cabinet Secretary confirmed that NHS Grampian's GRACE project, utilizing AI for lung cancer detection, is the first of its kind in the nation with a national rollout planned over 12 months, while also addressing challenges in IVF treatment by reaffirming that no eligible couple should pay for donor gametes or any aspect of NHS-funded procedures. The government committed to supporting neurodivergent adults through a new £7.6 million fund and adopting established clinical pathways, though acknowledged that the system is still in an early development stage due to vastly increased demand. Additionally, discussions on day centers for older people revealed that while attendance figures are currently below capacity, a review of financial sustainability is underway to mitigate the impact of potential closures on loneliness and isolation, complemented by a commitment to provide additional energy cost support for those with terminal illnesses.
Service delivery reforms and funding strategies were further scrutinized regarding specific medical technologies and long-term care accessibility. The government clarified that its 26-week waiting time targets apply specifically to elective inpatient and new outpatient waits across approximately 40 specialties, not all healthcare forms, and acknowledged the need for transformational change in gender identity services due to recruitment challenges exacerbated by polarized media discourse. Investments exceeding £7.2 million since December 2022 have been directed toward improving these services, with plans to decentralize care through managed clinical networks similar to the Highland clinic model. Similarly, while funding for hybrid closed-loop systems for Type 1 diabetes was not withdrawn, the government emphasized its role in ensuring equitable access across all NHS boards through baseline annual funding of £14.4 million and work by the Center for Sustainable Delivery to address geographical inequities. The session concluded with a strong emphasis on a "community first" approach to shift care closer to home, particularly addressing issues where patients must travel long distances due to local unit closures or recruitment shortages in dialysis provision.
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The first portfolio this afternoon is
justice questions. If a member wishes to
request a supplementary question, they
should press the rep request to speak
button during the relevant question. I
remind members that questions three and
four are grouped together and I will
take any supplementaries on these
questions after both have been answered.
Questions five, six, seven, and eight
have also been grouped together and I
will take any supplementaries on those
after question eight. Amanda Bland.
Thank you, presiding officer, to ask the
Scottish government in light of a recent
Police Scotland freedom of information
response indicating that there have been
342 referrals involving Southeast Asian
children since 2020, including cases of
sexual exploitation. What action is is
it taking to ensure that Vietnamese
children at risk of trafficking are
identified at an early stage, protected
from exploitation, and provided with
appropriate support.
>> Minister,
>> thank you, presiding officer. Child
trafficking is a horrific form of child
abuse that can have a devastating impact
on children and young people. In all
cases, the child's safety and well-being
must be paramount, and support is
provided through Scotland's child
protection system. Tackling human
trafficking requires a coordinated
response involving the Scottish
government, the UK government, Police
Scotland, local authorities, and
specialist support services. And the
Scottish government provides over2
million pounds annually to Guardianship
Scotland which provides specialist
support to all unaccompanied
asylumseeking children, victims of
trafficking and children vulnerable to
trafficking who arrive in Scotland.
>> Amanda Bland,
>> thank you for that response. What
assessment has the Scottish government
made of whether the current systems for
identifying and recording child
trafficking trafficking adequately
capture the specific circumstances of
Vietnamese children, including those who
may initially be treated as missing
children or immigration cases and what
action it will take to improve early
identification and information sharing
between agencies. Minister,
>> I'm grateful to the member for that
question and also for the focus that she
has there on partnership working. What I
would say is that that there is data
that tells us what the year-on-year
numbers of children from Vietnam are who
appear to be coming through um what
could be trafficking. Um and a lot of
that data indicates that the these
children may be subject to force
criminality specifically that has been
the primary reason for referrals in
since 2020. I would say though
regardless of the type of exploitation a
child who is suspected of being the
victim of trafficking or exploitation
should receive an appropriate protection
response and that work with statutory
safeguarding partners as she alluded to
is absolutely key in our um accounting
there.
Question number two, David Barrett.
>> Thank you. To ask the Scottish
government what action it is taking to
address criminal trade and counterfeit
cigarettes in local communities,
including what support it provides to
trading standards departments.
>> Minister,
>> thank you, presiding officer. I recently
met with the Scottish Groer Grocerers
Federation to discuss the impact of
illicit trade on legitimate traders and
I fully recognize the harm caused to
businesses by this kind of illegal
activity. We are committed to doing
everything we can to disrupt this
damaging activity. We work with trading
standards and law enforcement partners.
We are engaging with a range of
stakeholders as well as with the UK
government's high street serious
organized crime unit. And as we consider
what action can be taken to further
tackle high street criminality, that
includes reviewing the framework for
closure orders and any changes to the
law that may be required there to
strengthen enforcement.
>> David Barrett,
>> I thank the minister for that response
and for the ongoing engagement I've had
prior to this. I'm aware of one shop in
my constituency that has no planning
consent. They are selling counterfeit
cigarettes at a third of the normal
retail price, undercutting legitimate
businesses. Trading Standards are aware
of this situation, but states to me that
they lack the powers to shut them down.
Will the Scottish government's review
include giving more powers to local
authorities to allow these shops to be
shut down and take organized crime off
our high streets?
>> Minister,
>> I'm grateful to the member for that
question. The first thing I would say is
it's important that the member trading
standards, anyone who has these concerns
to please report these crimes to police
Scotland. Trading standards do already
have a wide range of enforcement powers
available. They can seize elicit
tobacco, take enforcement action, seek
prosecutions, apply for banning orders.
Um, working closely with HMRC and Police
Scotland to tackle organized crime. And
tackling elicit tobacco remains a
priority for this government and our
partners. For instance, through
Operation CC, H partners, including
Police Scotland, have seized more than
1.8 8 million elicit cigarettes and over
1,100 kgs of handruling tobacco in
Scotland during 2025 to 26 demonstrates
the significant enforcement activity
underway. Importantly, in addition, the
Scottish government is currently
reviewing antisocial behavior
legislation and that includes the
framework governing closure orders and
whether changes there would strengthen
enforcement. David London. I'm
>> very grateful deputy presiding officer
and to pay tribute in particular to the
minister who has been an advocate
particularly on the issue of vapes as
well as that of counterfeit tobacco. Um
but my colleague Mr. Barrett is
absolutely right that there is a role
here for trading standards departments
but the reality is that over many years
trading standards departments have been
hollowed out and we don't have as many
staff. So can I ask the minister to work
across government particularly with the
colleagues in the education department
to look at making sure that we have more
apprentices going into regulatory
standards so we can empower trading
standards officers to shut down these
type of shops that are selling
counterfeit tobacco.
>> Minister,
>> I'm grateful to Minister London for his
focus on this area. He'll know that the
responsibility for workforce planning
rest with individual local authorities
and with Cosa and their role as
employers. Nonetheless, I think it's an
important point um and that there is um
a conversation which has been happening
in terms of progress there. The former
cabinet secretary for public service
reform asked Consumer Scotland to make
proposals under section three of the
Consumer Scotland Act 2020 to help
inform the government's approach to
trading standards services in Scotland.
That report has now been received and we
are looking at recommendations in order
that we can be as effective as possible
in this area.
>> Mark Simpson. Thank you, Deputy.
>> Thank you, Deputy Presiding Officer. Um,
does the Scottish government accept the
growth of counterfeit tobacco as a sign
that organized crime is gaining a
foothold in local communities?
>> Minister,
>> organized crime is of serious concern to
the Scottish government and is an issue
which affects uh communities in Scotland
and further a field. That's why the uh
the the record funding which has been
provided to police Scotland by the
government is so important and that
ability that police Scotland have to
make the the best operational decisions
in order to to deal with criminality
where it exists. I think that that
connection which the member has made
between organized crime and the problem
of elicit tobacco is a very valid one
and I would assure him that that is a
matter of ongoing consideration for the
government. Julie McDougall.
>> Thank you, Deputy Presiding Officer. Um,
back in March 2024, F Council's trading
standards team made use of detection
dogs provided by Consumer Protection
Dogs UK. This resulted in the
confiscation of nearly 3 kilograms of
suspected counterfeit rollup tobacco in
one operation. Can the minister confirm
whether the government has considered
providing more detection dogs to all
relevant bodies who investigate the
manufacturer and sale of these dangerous
items? Thank you,
>> Minister. I'm grateful to the member for
that question and I must say to her that
um I visited some of these detection
dogs that she speaks of recently um and
was very impressed by the effectiveness
um and have been given other evidence uh
to indicate that as one of a range of
measures that is a helpful tool um in in
order to help us to detect and deal with
this particular kind of crime. the
actions of local government, trading
standards and and police Scotland in
terms of the operation are really for
them to determine. But I think that she
makes a valid point in the value of that
as one element that we can use.
>> Question number three, Andrew Baxter
>> to ask the Scottish government what
action is it taking to address any
barriers faced by victims of domestic
abuse in rural and remote communities.
Cabinet Secretary,
>> Presiding Officer, our equally safe
strategy recognizes that women in rural
and island communities may experience
distinct barriers to seeking support.
Therefore, our program for government
commits to ensuring that every woman and
girl, regardless of where she lives, has
access to safe and sustainable services.
That includes developing a new
multi-year fund for specialist
organizations responding to what they
need to sustain vital services and
deliver critical preventative activities
allowing them to respond flexibly to
local need and further details will be
set out in the next equally safe
delivery plan which will be published
later this year.
>> Andrew Baxter,
>> I thank the cabinet secretary for that
response. Victims of domestic abuse in
rural communities uh as he said can face
additional barriers in accessing
specialist support particularly where
those services are spread across vast
geographical areas. So, as part of the
cabinet secretary's uh plan, will he
commit to a specific rural domestic
abuse delivery plan backed up by the
secure long-term funding for local
women's aid that he's just mentioned and
other specialist services so that where
a woman lives does not determine the
support available to her? Cabinet
Secretary
>> presiding officer the um equally safe
delivery plan that comes forward later
this year will have at its core the
elements that uh Mr. Baxter is asking
for uh he should take some confidence in
the fact that the delivery safe equally
fund has benefited from a 5% increase in
funding uh this year this financial year
taking that total investment uh to
almost 46 uh million pounds that's 23
millions pounds a year and of that 5.6 6
million pounds is going to projects that
support women and girls in our most
rural and island communities. But I'd be
more than happy to continue that
conversation with Mr. Baxter around how
we can ensure that the delivery plan
meets the needs of women and girls in
rural and island communities.
>> Question number four, Karen Adam. Thank
you, presiding officer. To ask the
Scottish government how it will ensure
that women and girls in rural and
coastal communities who exper experience
domestic abuse and gender-based violence
have equal access to specialist support
and protection, including through the
criminal justice system.
>> Cabinet Secretary,
>> presiding officer, our program for
government commits to ensuring equal
safe provision for women no matter where
they are and recognizes the vital role
of the criminal justice system in
responding to such behavior. I welcome
the fact that more women are coming
forward to report crimes including
historical and an increase in prose
prosecutions and convictions especially
in uh current and historical sexual
violence uh through implementation of
the victims witnesses and justice reform
act. We will also establish a sexual
offenses court as well as introducing
statutory rights of anonymity and access
to independent legal representation.
>> Karen Adam,
>> I thank the cabinet secretary for that
answer. Parliament heard evidence that
Grampian's women's aid workers had to
make up to 60 calls just to find one
legal aid solicitor for a woman
experiencing domestic abuse. For a woman
already in crisis, that's another
barrier and another delay in accessing
justice. With the government now
consulting on legal aid reform, how will
the cabinet secretary ensure that women
experiencing domestic abuse can access
timely legal advice and representation
regardless of where they live? Cabinet
Secretary,
>> I thank Karen Adam for that question and
this was the topic of conversation um
that I had with Dr. Marshall Scott from
Scottish Women's Aid uh this morning um
where we were discussing the work that
Women's Aid Scotland Scottish women's
aid are taking forward in their projects
in Ortney and Shhatland as well as in
Edinburgh to embed uh legal advice uh
that the government is providing funding
support for and how this might be spread
wider and the fact that we are now
consulting uh on uh reforms to legal aid
for which I encouraged uh Scottish
women's aid to uh feed into h because I
do recognize the concern concerns that
Karan Adam has raised on behalf of
Grampian Women's Aid about the
difficulties some women experience um
around that have been experiencing
domestic abuse face in accessing timely
legal advice and representation. We
remain committed to supporting women
affected by violence and abuse including
through the funding of the Scottish
Legal Board and to the Scottish Women's
Rights Center amongst other
organizations.
>> Maggie Chapman,
>> thank you. The cabinet secretary will
know that the Scottish Greens and others
have called repeatedly for multi-year
inflationproof funding and fullcost
recovery for the life-saving services
that support survivors of gender- based
violence. Can he confirm whether this
will form part of his budget discussions
with colleagues? And will he also
consider the introduction of a set of
core minimum service standards that
every survivor of gender-based violence
would be entitled to access? Cabinet
Secretary.
>> This goes to the heart of uh the
violence against women and girls uh
section of the program for government
that uh I know Maggie Chapman has taken
a keen interest in. uh and we are
talking in there about ensuring we've
got multi-year funding available to uh
support services and also that we need
to shift our uh justice posture into a
more preventative approach that we do
have services available in the community
for women and girls but also um that uh
we have a better wraparound family
support and and uh public protection uh
posture to ensure that we are seeing
fewer victims uh occur in the first
place. And of course these will form
part of the budget discussions that I
expect to have with cabinet colleagues.
>> Question number five, Neil Bbeby
>> to ask the Scottish government what its
responses to the report by the auditor
general for Scotland criminal courts
backlog followup.
>> Cabinet secretary
>> presiding officer. We welcome the
auditor general's report and its
recognition that justice partners have
made progress in reducing the criminal
court's backlog since the original
audit. The report also highlights the
increasing volume and complexity of
serious cases entering the justice
system and the challenges that this
creates. We also recognize the distress
that undue delay can cause and the need
for further action to ensure victims uh
see justice happen as quickly as
possible. We accept the recommendations
and we will continue to work closely
with justice partners to strengthen
collaboration, improve delivery, and
support the long-term reform needed to
ensure Scotland's justice system remains
effective, resilient, and focused on the
people that it serves.
>> Neil Bee,
>> thank the cabinet secretary for that
answer. on recommendations. In 2023,
Audit Scotland recommended the Scottish
government and the Scottish courts and
tribunal service develop equality impact
assessments for all change projects
within 12 to 18 months. 40 months on,
despite a legal duty to carry out these
assessments and the importance of
considering in advance how reforms could
affect groups such as women and
children, the auditor general told the
public audit committee last week these
are not being carried out as they
should. Can the cabinet secretary
explain to the people that these reforms
are meant to be helping why the
government has failed to properly to
consider them and carry out this basic
legal requirement? Cabinet Secretary
>> Presiding Officer, the report recommends
strengthening equality impact assessment
arrangements and ensuring that they are
applied consistently across reform
programs. Assessments are routinely
carried out and published in relation to
new legislation. However, we do
recognize that the practice is less
consistent in other areas of policy
development and delivery and we
therefore accept that recommendation and
will continue to build on the existing
work to support best practice in this
area. Question number six, James Adams.
Uh,
>> thank you, presiding officer, to ask the
Scottish government what action it is
taking to reduce the backlog of cases in
Scotland's courts and reduce waiting
times for court proceedings.
>> Cabinet Secretary,
>> presiding officer, we recognize that the
shape of criminal court business is
changing and that places uh renewed
pressure on the system and that we need
to respond accordingly and in
recognition of the distress any delays
can cause. High court capacity will
increase to 26 trials a day compared to
16 at the start of the decade from
January. We also are we are also
responding through changes we are taking
forward with justice partners and
stakeholders supporting the delivery of
modern user centered digital services
and this includes expanding digital
evidence sharing capability and
providing targeted investment to support
a more efficient trauma-informed justice
system.
>> James Adams. I thank the cabinet
secretary for her response. Uh the high
court backlog has continued to rise to
over a thousand outstanding scheduled
trials, which is almost three times
prepandemic levels. And meanwhile, Audit
Scotland found that the Scottish
government's justice program board has
not met since summer 2024, and that its
own modeling shows high court backlogs
and waiting times are projected to
continue growing until around March
2028. uh in light of Oric Scotland's
findings uh that the progress on
criminal justice efficiency projects has
been mixed with some initiatives still
not started limited evaluation and no
equality impact assessments completed.
What urgent steps will the government
take to address these issues ensure that
victims, witnesses and accused
individuals are no longer suspect to
prolong delays?
>> Cabinet Secretary,
>> presiding officer, I've already set out
that the number of high court venues
will increase by four from January. So
in addition to the current 10 venues,
the high court will now sit in air drain
and firmland in Edinburgh and Glasgow
sheriff courts as of January. Uh I think
we've also uh got uh strong lessons to
learn from summary court management uh
pu uh improvements uh where the auditor
general has set out in his report
significant improvements that have been
made as a result in in reducing the
court backlog in in summary cases. We do
have more work to do in in solemn cases.
I'm I'm very well aware of that because
of the increased successful um uh con uh
prosecution uh and police investigation
work uh for which I pay tribute to
Police Scotland and the Crown uh we are
seeing more and more complex cases
coming forward that need to be dealt
with and I'll continue to work with
justice partners to ensure that they
have the resources required in order to
get through that backlog as quickly as
possible. Question number seven, Finley
Carson.
>> Government, what its response is to
reports that the waiting times for high
court trials are expected to almost
triple by 2028.
>> Cabinet Secretary,
>> presiding officer, as I said in my
earlier answers, we will increase to 26
trials a day compared to 16 at the start
of the decade from this January. I've
met uh on a number of occasions with the
Lord President and with the Scotch
Courts and Tribunal Service to discuss
the issues at hand and we'll work with
them and other justice partners to
explore what more can be done to address
the challenges that our justice system
faces. We will also invest 11.6 billion
pounds across justice from 2627 to 2829
to support frontline services, safer
communities and victims and witnesses.
Fin Carson,
>> I thank the cabinet secretary for the
response. Cabinet Secretary, one of my
constituents now been waiting years for
her case to be heard in the high court.
Despite facing multiple serious charges,
the accused remains at liberty in the
community on bail while my constituent
is left in limbo. When she sought
answers, the response from the Crown
Office and Procreate fiscal service was
that the delay was, in their words,
understandably disappointing.
But for victims of rape and serious
sexual offenses, this is not merely
disappointing. The offenses themselves,
the years of uncertainty and the
knowledge that the accuser remains
accused remains free are traumatic,
exhausting and deeply distressing. The
Scottish government repeatedly promises
a traumat traumainformed justice system.
Yet many victims feel that currently the
very system that is meant to support
them is letting them down. So will the
cabinet secretary meet with we me and my
constituent to hear directly how these
failures have affected her? And does he
accept that right now when victims are
left waiting years for trials while
accused people remain on bail that the
system is not trauma informed? It's
retraumatizing.
>> Cabinet Secretary,
>> presiding officer, I first of all
recognize the the trauma and distress
that Finley Carson uh outlines in terms
of a victim seeking justice. I of course
understand that. He will also understand
that theuling of businesses for the
Scottish courts and tribunal service,
the decisions around bail are for the
judiciary to take. He I I know he is
aware of that, but I of course be more
than happy to meet with him and his
constituent to discuss uh his that case
uh recognizing the uh independence of
the organizations that we're talking
about.
>> Question number eight, Carol Mockin,
>> deciding officer to ask the Scottish
government what its responses to reports
that waiting times for high court trials
are set to triple by 2028.
Cabinet Secretary,
>> presiding officer, as Miss Mochin has
heard, uh we are aware of uh the
potential waiting times um and predicted
waiting times for uh trials. Sexual
offense cases now make up around 70% of
high court trials, and the number of
cases continues to increase due to
increased reporting and prosecution,
which I think we would both uh welcome.
I recognize that it is vital that we
find a sustainable way of managing these
cases and to improve uh on current
waiting times as well as mitigate any uh
future delays. In time, uh the sexual
offenses court uh initiative that was
not supported by the Labor Party will
play a key role in helping us to manage
the growing pressure on the courts and
impact it has on v victims. Carl Mockin,
>> thank you to the cabinet secretary for
that answer. And of course, she did
mention that sexual offenses crimes
account for 70% of high court business.
A recent report by the Scottish Women
Convention found that only 8% of
surveyed respondents felt that women
have fair access to justice in Scotland.
And of course, we heard in last night's
debate on violence against women and
girls that access to justice and support
services can be extremely challenging
and geographical inequalities persist.
Given the government's commitments to
tackle these issues, can the cabinet
secretary tell us whether the Scottish
government will lodge a draft misogyny
bill in parliament before Christmas
recess?
>> Cabinet Secretary,
>> presiding officer, in direct answer to
the last part of Miss Mockin's question,
we will we've got a a program for
government commitment to uh progress uh
the misogyny bill as a year one bill. Uh
I will also continue to work to ensure
that women are well served within our
justice system. I I said in answer to
Miss Mockin's first question that I
think the fact that we are seeing a
higher rate of um police investigation
and charges being brought, a higher rate
of uh prosecutions being taken forward
and longer sentences demonstrates the
improvements that are being made in our
justice system to ensure that women are
being better served. There is more work
to do and I think the debate yesterday
absolutely highlighted that with some
exemplary contributions highlighting the
gravity of the situation that we face.
That's why the first minister has made
violence against women and girls such a
prominent issue of his uh time as first
minister and ensuring that it's central
to our program for government.
>> Alan Brown.
>> Uh thank you presiding officer. One of
the highlights of the report was the
summary case management project within
the summary courts which the cabinet
secretary already touched on. led to
earlier resolutions without trials,
18,000 fewer witness citations,
including 11,000 fewer police witness
citations. Obviously, frees up police
resources. So, is this something that
could be rolled out in so courts as
well?
>> Cabinet Secretary,
>> presiding officer, I I welcome Alan
Brown's question that highlights the
incredible measures that have been taken
forward by my predecessor to ensure
improvements in summary court
management. there are some areas that
can uh be taken as learning into the
solemn cases but it's a bit more complex
than that in in solemn business. Uh but
it is certainly an area that I am
looking uh to work with justice partners
to ensure that we can make uh similar
improvements uh to how we work in solemn
business as has been uh delivered
through summary case management.
>> Question nine has been withdrawn and a
reasonable explanation has been given.
Question number 10 Craig Hoy. Thank you,
deputy presiding officer, to ask the
Scottish government what plans it has to
increase funding for poling and
community safe safety initiatives in
rural areas in light of recent data
indicating upward trends in criminality
in dumpries and Galloway.
>> Minister,
>> thank you. Presiding officer, police and
police staff play a vital role in
keeping our communities safe. That's why
we're investing record funding of over
1.7 billion pounds in poling in 2026 to
27. And while decisions on the
deployment of officers and staff,
operational policing priorities, and the
allocation of resources across local
areas are matters for the chief
constable, Police Scotland continues to
place significant emphasis on community
policing and engagement with local
communities, including in rural areas
such as the um members. As set out in
Police Scotland's 2030 vision and
three-year business plan, community
policing remains central to keeping
people safe and our record investment is
ensuring Police Scotland has the
resources needed to respond to local
demands across the country.
>> Craig Hoy,
>> I thank the minister for that answer,
but overall crime rates in my local
poling division have hit 552 per 10,000
residents, 3.5% higher than in the
previous year. In 2023, police numbers
in Dfree and Galloway were the lowest in
Scotland. But in recent weeks, local
officers left by Chief Superintendent
Cla Doson have been touring towns and
villages with a recruitment van to
generate a pipeline of new officers, and
I commend them for this positive and
visible initiative, but does the
minister accept that it is more
difficult to recruit officers in rural
areas? And what more can the Scottish
government do to support police Scotland
both uh financially and practically as
they uh seek to attract new recruits in
hard to hire areas such as the precia
>> Minister
>> I'm grateful to Craig Hoy for his focus
on the importance of police officer
numbers and of course we have more
officers in Scotland than in England and
Wales per head of population. Our
officers also receive the best basic pay
in the UK at the minimum and maximum of
each rank. Really important when we
think of recruitment decisions. Our
record investment in placing does
continue to allow police Scotland to
recruit new officers with over 160 new
recruits in July 2026. Further
recruitment planned throughout the year
and Police Scotland has confirmed a
healthy recruitment pipeline. I do
commend Craig Hoy, as I say though, for
his focus and support for Police
Scotland as they go about that important
work of making sure that we have that
proper pipeline of recruitment in place.
>> David Green.
>> Thank you, Deputy Presiding Officer.
Recent months have seen a worrying rise
in reported incidents of vandalism
across my constituency. In Tain, both a
high street shop and the much-loved rose
garden suffered significant damage. In
Thzo, homes and cars were vandalized and
even the entrance of Thzo police station
was targeted. So what action will the
minister therefore take to ensure that
local officers have the resources they
need to tackle these crimes? And will
she heed calls from across the highlands
to restore the lost control the local
control loss to the centralization of
police?
>> Minister,
>> thank you presiding officer. The
importance of poling having a a local
focus in terms of uh more rural areas as
the member has described is really
important. Rural crime can impact on
individuals, communities and and
businesses and that's why that important
local focus that police Scotland has is
so vital as they go about their
business. Uh there's also the focus
which the Scottish partnership against
rural crime known as spark has the that
organization is chaired by police
Scotland and brings together key justice
enforcement and rural sector partners to
make sure that there is that coordinated
multi- agency approach to making sure
that we can prevent and reduce crime in
more rural areas. They also support
intelligence gathering as well as
enforcement in order that there is
practical crimerevention activity taking
place in communities such as his.
>> And for a brief question, Jamie Langan.
>> Thank you very much, Deputy Presiding
Officer. Would the minister concede that
the closure of over 200 police stations
has disproportionately affected public
safety in rural areas such as the
Scottish borders and South Lannshire?
>> Minister,
>> thank you. presiding officer. The the
important focus that that police
Scotland have on making their own
operational decisions so that the chief
constable is able to determine where
best and how best to deploy officers is
central to both prevention and uh
detecting crite. And I would say that
there is significant work going on in
all localities in terms of partnership
work with partners and police Scotland
which ensures that we have that local
focus whilst appreciating that
deployment is for the chief constable.
The next portfolio questions is health
and social care questions. Again, if a
member wishes to request a supplementary
question, they should press the request
to speak button during the relevant
question. I'll give the front bench a
moment to take their places.
>> Question.
>> Question number one, Jack Middleton
[snorts]
>> to ask the Scottish government for its
assessment of NHS Grampian's grace
project and its use of AI in detecting
lung cancer. Cabinet Secretary
>> Siding Officer NHS Grampion is
responsible for delivery and evaluation
of the Grace project which was developed
through the North of Scotland innovation
hub and it's worth putting on record the
NHS Grampion is the first board in
Scotland to use AI and a cancer pathway.
The Scottish government has considered
learning from the Grace project as part
of the development of a national
approach to delivering an AI enabled
chest X-ray pathway across NHS Scotland
to support earlier diagnosis of lung
cancer. This work is being progressed
through our accelerated national
innovation adoption pathway which brings
together Scottish government and NHS
Scotland partners to assess evidence and
take collective decisions on innovations
for national adoption.
>> Jack Middleton.
>> Thank you Cabinet Secretary for that
response. Given the obvious success of
the grace project and NHS Grampion as
you've touched upon and its integration
into the lung cancer pathway, can the
Scottish government commit to a full
national roll out of this
transformational project and give an
understanding to the chamber of what
phasing will be in place for that roll
out? Thank you,
>> Cabinet Secretary.
>> Siden officer firstly in July the
Scottish government and NHS leaders
approved a national chest X-ray AI
program. Work is now progressing with
NHS boards to establish the national
reporting hub and put the necessary
clinical digital and governance
arrangements in place over the next 12
months. So uh we're shortly moving into
that 12 month pre-implementation phase
to finalize the clinical pathways and
this supports that once for Scotland
approach uh to a wider roll out helping
to identify lung cancer earlier and
speed up treatment. And the Scottish
government and partners have also been
developing a policy framework for EI and
recently published interim guidance
following discussions with trade unions
and how EI can better support staff to
deliver highquality care in addition uh
to the plan to develop an EI hub to
accelerate safe adoption of EI and
health and care settings. Question
number two, Kate Campbell
>> to ask the Scottish government when it
anticipates the GP walking clinic in
Muselbrra will be operational.
>> Cabinet Secretary, presiding officer, as
a government, we have made a clear
commitment to expand walk-in services
including in Muselbrra that is part of
improving access to care and reducing
pressure on accident and emergency
services. While I have approved the
inclusion of a service in Musra as part
of the expansion of the pilot, it is for
NHS Lotheian to design and deliver the
walk-in service, including determining
when a safe operational date will be.
Kate Campbell um to thank the cabinet
secretary for her answer. I welcome the
Musl Clinic. It will be a lifeline to
the local community but access to health
care is coming up in other parts of the
constituency that I represent areas like
Trinent as well and it demonstrates the
huge demand for these type of services.
On Monday I met with Queen Margaret
University who are really keen to
support community health on campus. They
would like to maximize the use of their
facilities while also supporting
learning. So would the Scottish
government support this type of
innovative approach and will they
continue to look at opportunities to
expand community health care across a
range of settings?
>> Cabinet Secretary
Officer, Miss Campbell raises an
important point around improving access
to same day primary and community care
and in particular to respond to local
population health needs. I also very
much welcome the interest shown by the
Queen Margaret University and other
local partners. We are always willing to
explore opportunities that could improve
access to community-based health care.
And as the member suggests, it is
important that we continue to think
about how we make best use of community
facilities and local assets as set out
in the new improving flow plan. uh that
we are developing that national vision
for community infrastructure including
the role of community hospitals, GP
surgeries and other local facilities
that can play a vital role and we will
set out further detail on this uh soon.
>> Jackie Bailey,
>> thank you presiding officer. The BMA has
described GP walk-in clinics as
short-term headline grabbing
non-evidence-based initiatives. Now the
cabinet secretary has said that these
clinics will take the strain away from
acute services like A&E. Yet A&E data
shows that Scotland has its worst summer
on record for those waiting over eight
hours for treatment. So can the cabinet
secretary explain why she's continuing
to pursue this policy against the expert
advice of GPS when the money could be
better spent invested in improving
access to existing health centers.
Cabinet Secretary officer I am of course
well aware of the views of the the BME h
and I am aware that there are a range of
views um on this matter as well. What I
would want to stress it's not either or.
Uh we are investing uh heavily in GP
care 1.3 billion pounds core funding and
with the 531 million additional funds uh
over uh three years all of that part of
a bigger package of investment in
primary care and we have 900 GP
practices across the country and this is
about complementing the work of GP
practices h supporting them to do what
they do best in terms of quant continue
to care in terms of that family doctor
role. But same day access is crucial to
preventing problems uh becoming a
crisis. We have to respond uh to that
need and of course she's quite right to
raise the challenges around accident
emergency and that's why we're taking a
whole system approach looking at health
and social care together.
>> Question number three, Callum Carr.
Thank you, presiding officer, to ask the
Scottish government whether it considers
that its proposed reforms of NHS boards
will make it easier to access
appropriate assessment and support for
neurody divergent people, particularly
adults.
>> Minister,
>> the proposed reform of NHS boards
provides an opportunity to think
differently about how services are
planned and delivered, including for
neurodeivergent people. will work
closely with NHS boards during the
reform process to support joined up
approaches across health and social care
and community services ensuring that
patients remain at their heart. In fact,
just last week we announced a 7.6
million pound neurodedevelopmental
support fund for children and young
people to help to strengthen local
support for children and families as
part of work being taken forward with
local government and partners across
Scotland. Scotland. The member is also
aware that we've committed to adopting
the Royal College of Psychiatrists
National Pathway for
Neurodedevelopmental Conditions for
adults and we'll publish our root map in
the autumn setting out how that will be
taken forward so that adults with
neurodedevelopmental conditions with or
without a formal diagnosis can be better
supported.
>> Callum Carr.
>> Uh thank the minister for that
comprehensive answer. In NHS borders,
there's currently no pathway for adult
ADHD or autism assessment unless someone
is in mental health crisis. I also hear
from constituents who struggled to
access treatment after moving to the
borders because diagnosis recognized
elsewhere are not accepted. Now I
recognize the steps being taken to
address this including NHS borders
holding a workshop this month to look at
demand and capacity for neurody
divergent services but we really do need
that reassurance from the minister that
improving access to assessment and
support for neurode divergent adults
will be a priority as these reforms
progress.
>> I thank the member for that
supplementary question. I absolutely am
willing and happy to reaffirm our
commitment to supporting the needs of
people with neurode divergence including
adults here today in the chamber. I
recognize and I'm sympathetic to
concerns raised regarding access to
adult pathways in NHS borders and the
challenge being faced by the board. Um,
NHS Borders is responsible for taking
decisions on planning and delivering
services and we fund the national autism
implementation team to support all
health and social care partnerships to
help meet their responsibilities on
neurodedevelopmental pathways and
services and that activities
complemented by our plans on the
national root map. I also recognize the
issues around private diagnosis. I'd be
more than happy to correspond with the
member or to hear from with the member
of particular issues. These are clinical
matters taking account of patient
safety, professional guidance and local
governance arrangements. We have
published through through Nate, we
published guidance on prescribing ADHD
medication to adults following private
sector diagnosis in Scotland that was
drafted in consultation with
professional bodies and clinicians and
shared with all health boards.
>> Julong,
>> I thank Callum Care for raising this
question and the minister for comments
on this topic at the health committee
this morning. Um, what level of resource
has the Scottish government identified
as necessary for the sustainable roll
out of improved neurodedevelopmental
assessment support pathways and will we
see that in December's budget?
>> Minister,
>> so you'll certainly see investment in
mental health and investment in child
and adult adolescent mental health
services in December's budget. We are at
an early stage of development as we
discussed this morning at um committee.
We're at a relatively early stage of
building an entirely new system that we
need to respond to the needs from um the
the vastly increased number of people
who are coming forward um to seek
diagnosis and to seek support. I
mentioned some of the funding that we've
put in um to uh developing cohesive
services for children and young people.
The 7.6 6 million announced last week
and I look forward to updating the
member on further investments as we
develop the system moving forward.
>> Miles Briggs.
>> Thank you. Deputy presigning officer.
Charities and organizations supporting
people who are neuro neurody divergent
in Scotland have expressed their intense
disappointment that Eldam bill was not
included in the program for government.
But what we've heard today is no vision
for what the Scottish government
actually want to do. People across our
country have been left in limbo as
members have highlighted. So can I ask
the minister to confirm today under
government reforms whether or not we
will see the development of a pathway
for adults and children within the NHS?
>> Minister
um let me be absolutely clear the fact
that we are not progressing with the
Eldan bill does not mean that we are
deprioritizing either learning
disabilities or neural developmental
disorders. We are fully and absolutely
committed to responding to those issues.
Part of the challenge is that there has
been a really sharp increase in the
number of people who are seeking a
diagnosis and support and that's
overwhelmed our current systems. So we
are having to build from um quite a low
baseline an entirely new system that can
cope with a very high volume of
referrals. What we are absolutely
committed to is ensuring that children
and young people and adults get the
right support in the right place at the
right time at the point that they
request it. Now at the moment the focus
is very much on diagnosis because that
is seen as a way to get support actually
what people want to support and that's
what I'm focusing on building in our
communities.
>> Question number four Alan Brown.
>> Uh thank you presiding officer to ask
the Scottish government what assessment
is made of the availability of African
nature donor eggs for in vitro
fertilization IV IVF treatment within
the NHS.
Minister,
>> I recognize that there has been interest
previously in findings by the human
fertilization and embryology authority
in relation to the under representation
of Asian and black egg donors compared
to the donor population. The
availability of donor gates for use in
NHS IVF treatments a matter of for NHS
boards. I expect boards to meet the
needs of all of those people who are
eligible for NHS IVF treatment who
require donor gimmites for their
treatment. However, we are looking more
broadly at the availability of gimmites
in uh Scotland and I'd be very happy to
consider any specific concerns that Mr.
Brown is keen to raise. Alan Brown.
>> I thank the minister for our answer that
under representation he speaks about
it's been illustrated for my
constituents James and the catches whose
NHS funding IVF treatment is currently
on hold due to a lack of donor eggs of a
African ethn ethnicity
meaning an unknown weight for them
possib.
But they they've actually as a solution
they've come up with themselves. They've
offered to buy donor eggs. Um but NHS
Greater Glasgow is advising they can't
do a mix of private and NHS treatment
even though they want to use a partner
clinic of the assisted conception
service. So is there any way a
compromise can be found for couples such
as these and such events? Minister.
>> So I absolutely appreciate your
constituents concern and I can confirm
that the Scottish government expects NHS
boards to meet the needs of all couples
who are eligible for NHS fertility
treatment and who require donor GETS
whether that be eggs or sperm for that
treatment. We have always been very
clear that couples should not pay for
any aspect of their NHS IVF treatment
and that includes the purchase of donor
gummites. That is the responsibility of
NHS boards. I'm very happy to pursue
this matter further with the relevant
board if Mr. Brown would care to write
to me with more details.
>> Question number five, David Lindon
>> to ask the Scottish government what
discussions it's had with the Glasgow
Health and Social Care Partnership
regarding funding for day centers for
older people.
>> Minister,
>> I recognize the value of day centers for
older people and the important role that
they play in well-being and
socialization. I I understand there's a
review underway as part of a wider
program of work that Glasgow Health and
Social Care Partnerships undertaking to
secure future financial sustainability.
Staff and unions I understand are
currently being consulted and the future
shape of services but no decision about
these specific services has been made at
this stage.
>> David Lindon
>> I'm grateful to the minister for that
answer. Um, of the 10 elderly daycare
centers in Glasgow, two of them are in
my constituency in bailist and spring
boy and I visited them in in recent
weeks and the minister's right to
recognize this is a decision for the
health and social care partnership. But
given any decisions that might be taken
in terms of the future of these services
and the impact that it would have on
loneliness and isolation, not to mention
moving that vital middle step between
living in the community independently
and then going into the crisis of being
in permanent residential care. Would the
minister back my calls to the HSCP to
keep these things in mind as it makes
these decisions going forward?
>> Minister,
>> I note that he has two services in Bison
and Springboy. I also have Derek in my
own area. So I'm not
a averse to discussions on this. I note
that Glasgow Health and Social Care
Partnership have published figures
showing that 661 service users were
attending per month against a capacity
of 1500 places. Um but I I note what he
says around uh consultation and
involvement and the importance of these
services to the local community and I've
asked my officials to keep in close
contact with Glasgow Health and Social
Care Partnership to understand any
changes they seek to make.
>> Question number six, Arshad Akmed. Thank
you presiding officer to ask the
Scottish government what model of
financial support it is considering as
part of its program for government
commitment provide additional support
with energy cost for people with a
terminal illness including its plan and
timing for delivering this work.
>> Minister
>> I thank him for the question. Um, we're
determined that everyone receives
compassionate and high quality care and
there should be no different at the end
of a person's life. And in our program
for government, we've committed to
working with key stakeholders on how
we'll best deliver further support for
the energy costs of those with a
terminal illness. Supporting this
outcome will be a cross government
priority and delivery plans will de be
developed over the coming months and
parliament will be kept updated. Of
course, it's also important for me to
point out to the member that he may wish
to engage with his UK Labor government
colleagues on the steps that they could
be taking more widely to reduce energy
costs for households.
>> Thank you, Minister, for that answer.
The need for good palative care was a
rare point of cross party agreement at
the end of the last session.
What assurance can the minister give me
that the palative care delivery plan is
leading to better end of life care and
services are receiving more support?
>> Minister,
>> I I thank him for that. Work's already
underway to deliver on the actions set
on the strategy delivery plan. For
example, uh we launched Scotland's first
pilot of care learning hub in January
2026, which provides free palative care
education resources. uh and that
palative of care guidelines have also
been developed by a multi-disiplinary
group of professionals which are
available on the right decision website
and app and work is continuing to be
ongoing in this area.
>> Question number seven, Patrick Harvey
>> to ask the government whether the
commitment in the program for government
to ensure that by the end of 2031 no one
waits more than 26 weeks for treatment
applies to all forms of health care
including gender identity services.
Minister,
>> it's important to recognize that waiting
times to access gender identity services
remain unacceptably long and I'm fully
aware of the impact that this can have
on the people who are waiting and on
their loved ones. The 26-week target set
out in the program for government
relates specifically to elective
inpatient and new outpatient weights.
That covers around 40 specialty path
specialty pathways that patients follow
when accessing acute surgical and
medical specialist services on a
scheduled basis including orthopedics,
opthalmology, and cardiology. And to
support that, we've announced a further
90 million funding to help those waiting
the longest for elective treatment. We
continue to support specialist gender
identity services and have invested
almost 8.5 million since December 22,
including more than 7.2 million directly
to the health boards delivering those
services to improve service delivery and
to reduce waiting times.
>> Patrick Harvey,
>> I think many of my constituents who are
waiting years will be deeply
disappointed if an apparently clear
statement in the program for government
simply doesn't apply to them. The
minister will know that waiting times
even for a first appointment are
measured at over five years in Glasgow
and waiting times for treatment are
measured in the decades. It's simply
unrealistic uh to imagine that we can go
on this way. Does the minister accept
that nothing less than transformational
change is necessary and that this must
include decentralization of these
services. Minister.
>> So I do uh recognize the situation that
Patrick Harvey is describing and I do
agree that we need to think about a
different way of delivering care. We
recognize that the performance is not
yet at the level that we all want to see
at certain identity clinics and gender
identity clinics particularly in NHS
Greater and Glasgow and Clyde. I did
have the privilege actually over the
summer of visiting the Highland gender
identity clinic which is functioning
really well and I was delighted to hear
about the managed clinical network which
is now reconvening which I think will be
an opportunity for areas to share
expertise and good practice and increase
the performance across the country.
>> Questions and answers should be more
brief. Gary Bouse.
>> Thank you, Deputy Presiding Officer.
[clears throat] Can the minister speak
to the specific challenges with
recruitment to staff in these gender
identity services clinics? And does she
agree with with me that we should all be
mindful as parliamentarians with the
language being used to ensure people
accessing these services um feel
supported?
Minister,
>> the member is absolutely uh right in his
questioning this issue. Gender identity
health care services are specialized.
Clinics across the UK have reported
challenges in workforce recruitment and
retention. Since det as I said since
December 22, we've invested more than
7.2 million directly into the health
boards delivering these services to help
the address these challenges. However,
that is on a background on which these
services have been the subject of highly
polarized discourse at the center of
which are real patients and hardworking
staff who support them. The clinics have
cited toxic media discourse as a factor
in these recruitment difficulties and I
absolutely profoundly agree that all of
us here all politicians should be
mindful of this when speaking on this
matter.
>> Mark Simpson.
>> Uh thank you deputy presiding officer.
um to ask the minister, given continued
pressures on NHS services, um can the
minister confirm that reducing waiting
times for patients with life-threatening
and clinically urgent conditions will
remain the first priority in meeting the
26- week target.
>> Minister,
>> so there is not an eitheror here um at
all. We know that trans people continue
to suffer poorer outcomes relative to
the wider population, including in both
mental and physical health. We are
committed to promoting, protecting, and
realizing the right to health of
everyone in Scotland, including trans
people. In my first answer to the
member, I gave some detail around who is
included in the waiting list target and
where the funding is going.
Question number eight, not lodged.
Question number nine, Adam Harley.
>> Thank you, presiding officer, to ask the
Scottish government whether it will
provide an update on the provision of
services for people with type 1 diabetes
across Scotland.
>> Minister,
>> improving outcomes for people living
with type 1 diabetes is a priority for
this government. The health secretary
wrote to all NHS boards in May to ask
them for an update on their provision of
hybrid closed loop systems as we provide
baseline funding of 14.4 million each
year. I expect NHS boards to ensure that
they are delivering on national policy
and providing hybrid closed loop systems
in line with clinical guidance and
individual clinical need including for
children and young people living with
type 1 diabetes.
Adam Harley,
>> I thank the minister for that answer. My
constituent Christine Essen has been in
contact with me to raise concerns about
the withdrawal of central funding for
hybrid closed loop systems for those
living with type 1 diabetes and
migration away from support provided by
the national team. While Misss won't
lose access to the system, it does raise
questions about others gaining access to
it. Can the Scottish government reassure
Missan that those living with type 1
diabetes do not see a reduction in their
support and care due to these changes
and ensure that diabetic patients are
not subject to a postcode lottery of
care?
>> Minister,
>> so let me be absolutely clear on this
issue that we have not withdrawn funding
and we have not instructed NHS boards to
cease the provision of this technology.
Absolutely. Um the opposite in fact we
have um provided 14.4 4 million of
baseline funding from this year onwards
in order to support that um provision.
There is work going on in the um center
for sustainable delivery in looking at
expansion of access to hybrid closed
loop loop systems. But let me take the
opportunity to be clear to the chamber.
We have not asked anyone to cease
prescribing these systems while we wait
for their work to report. And the member
mentions the on boarding system which
has proved very effective at ensuring
that we have equity of access and equity
um of treatment across the country um
from the center of sustainable
deliveries work.
>> Filton McGregor.
>> Thank you for following on from Adam
Harley's question. can ask the minister
of what action the Scottish government
is taking to ensure that people with
type 1 diabetes who have been assessed
is clinically eligible for insulin pump
therapy have timely and equitable access
to that treatment regardless of which
NHS board they receive their care from
and this has been a bit of an issue for
some of my constituents and what
oversight it has in general of NHS board
funding and waiting times for insurance
pump provision
>> minister
>> so I I I recognize that there have been
challenges in terms of equity
um of access over the years for a number
of people across Scotland. Actually
baselining the funding in this way is
meant to provide certainty to every
health board area that that funding is
there and that funding will continue to
be there and that should iron out some
of the inequity of access. There are
also that we're using the center for
sustainable um delivery to improve on
the delivery and access to the support
that's required to onboard people onto
the system. and we've asked them to do a
further piece of work um around
introducing it and expanding access. I
have to say um actually this challenge
probably highlights one of the um most
um crucial issues within our NHS at the
moment and one of the strongest reasons
for reform of how we delivery deliver
our NHS to try to tackle these
geographical inequities and to try to
tackle this unwarranted variation that
we face in Scotland and I think our
opportunity of reform gives us an
opportunity to improve that. I would ask
for shorter answers from the minister to
allow more backbenchers to ask
questions. Benley Carson,
>> around 35% of adults with type 1
diabetes and free gallery are currently
using insulin pumps and a further 251
patients are clinically suitable for the
therapy with some waiting more than 12
months because demand is outstripping
available resources. Does the cabinet
secretary accept to be a false economy
to allow access to insulin pumps and
hybrid closed loop systems to stall
because of local budget pressures when
evidence shows these technologies
improve outcomes and reduce the risk of
costly long-term complications? And will
the government therefore guarantee that
the NHS boards have sufficient funding
to meet rising demand for type 1
diabetes technology?
>> Minister.
>> So, thanks thanks for the promotion, Mr.
Carson. I'm delighted to to be addressed
as cabinet secretary. Actually, all of
the um work that I've outlined already,
the 14.4 million baseline funding is
intended to ensure that health boards
have certainty that the funding is there
and that the funding will continue to be
there year after year to support that.
Now, closed loop symptoms systems are
now an established part of diabetes care
for people with type 1 diabetes in
Scotland. the that position has been set
out by sign guidance and Scott Scottish
health technology groups that the closed
loop system technology should be the
standard of care for people with type 1
diabetes who wish to use it and we are
targeting our funding to ensure that it
absolutely is in every part of Scotland.
>> Question number 10, Jenny Mento.
>> Thank youing officer. Thank you
presiding officer to ask the Scottish
government what discussions it has had
with the Argyland but health and social
care partnership and NHS Highland
regarding the provision of kidney
diialysis services to ensure that people
are receiving treatment close to home.
>> Minister,
>> I appreciate Miss Mento's campaigning on
this issue. We engage regularly with NHS
boards and health and social care
partnerships on the planning and
delivery of renalist services including
dialysis provision. decisions on the
location and configuration of diialysis
services are however for NHS boards. We
recognize the importance of providing
care close as close to home as possible
and support a range of approaches
including satellite diialysis units and
home dialysis where appropriate and our
program for government commits to
shifting more health care closer to home
through a community first approach
maximizing the opportunities for people
to get the care that they need in their
own home or local community.
>> Jenny Mento,
>> I thank the minister for her response.
As a result of the diialysis unit being
temporarily closed due to staff
recruitment issues in Campbell Town,
constituents are having to travel to
Glasgow for their diialysis. There's
also a campaign which I'm supportive of
to provide diialysis in Lauren and Isles
Hospital in Oben to avoid people having
to travel to Fort William. It concerns
me that crucial at crucial points in
people's health journeys, decisions are
being made that don't put people at the
heart of them. As the minister just
indicated, as the reform of of the NHS
in Scotland progresses, how will the
Scottish government ensure that concerns
about perceived reductions in care are
not ignored as we rightly move to a
sustainable health service? Minister,
>> I recognize the concerns that she's
raising of the people in Campbell Town
who've been affected by the changes to
their services and the impact that they
are having that this is having on their
lives. As we go forward with this, we'll
actively engage with patients, carers,
communities, and staff as the re reforms
are developed, ensuring that local
experiences help shape those future
services. And a key objective of the
reforms that we're going ahead with is
to strengthen the community- based care
and improve access to services closer to
home wherever it's safe and clinically
appropriate to do so.
The next item of business is a debate on
motion 1177
in the name of Patrick Harvey on hypers
scale data centers. Members wishing to
speak should press their respect to
speak buttons now and I'll give the
front bench a few moments to take their
place.