“Poilievre Is Afraid!” – Maxime Bernier: The Truth About Trudeau, Carney & Canada’s PM Election

Polyv is a liberal light for Trump. You know, dealing with Carne or dealing with Pol is the same. Polv is more against Trump and he wants to go ahead and impose more tariffs. He tried to pender to that leftist electorate, but it is time to be serious. This country will be destroyed by mass immigration. Why is he loved by his party? because when he did campaign, he was speaking like a real conservative. The impression to me is like you're running to daddy to protect from a bully. If we want to have a deal, we need to put that on the table. Carne is the globalist in chief. What does it mean to be a Canadian? Saying that we are putting Canada first, it's not a a slogan for me. It's a reality. But for Polyv, it's an NP slogan. I still don't know what it is to be a Canadian. What is it to be a Canadian? That is that is just absolutely embarrassing. And I understand Trump and I'm ready to work with your president. We will do what is right. We are the only hope for Canada. [Music] [Applause] Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever sign. It's right here. My son's right about this. All right, so here we go. So guys, a few weeks ago, I went on a rant about Pierre uh Pivier in Canada and I called out the fact that he doesn't want to go sit with anybody. He's just waiting for this thing to happen to him and is automatically going to be handed everything over. And in the last couple days, he's made a few comments about Trump and retweeted a video that we'll watch here together and get a reaction to. While that happened, a lot of Canadians were not happy with me. A lot were very furious with me. But a lot were also in agreement saying, "You know what? Please hold them accountable and challenge them to get out there." But throughout that time, I ran a poll and a name was brought up to me and they said, "You have to look into Maxim uh uh Bernier and I said,"Okay, great." Uh, you know, I started watching videos, content, we started following each other and then next thing you know, we have Maxim Bernier here from the People Party of Canada. It's great to have you here. Thank you, Patrick. I'm very pleased to be here. That's a nice opportunity for me because as you may know in Canada we may be in elections you know couple in couple of days and so uh I'm traveling across the country and I'm I'm not afraid to do podcasts and very pleased to be with you. I respect the fact that you're doing it. I think one of the things we watched in the US what happened was uh that uh Bobby Kennedy went to all the podcast Vive went to all the podcasts. Trump with his son Baron saying, "Hey, dad, let's go." He went to all the podcasts, right? And Kamla didn't go. Yeah. And Ron DeSantis went on ours. We had a great conversation, but some would have said, "Maybe you should have gone earlier." Right. And a lot of the Nikki Haley didn't want to go. These guys didn't want to go. They thought they're above it. And and when I when I called out Pierre, a lot of Canadians says, "You don't understand if he goes on a conservative podcast what the left is going to do. The left is going to attack him if he goes on Rogan, if he goes on this, he goes on." That's why in Canada it's very different than America. So walk me through the fear that conservatives have in Canada being so frightened of liberals holding them hostage. You know PV and the conservatives and I said that long time ago that they are conservative in name only. They are the Reno Canadians. Conservative in name only. They're afraid. Why? Because also in Canada we are mainstream media Canada in French, CTV, CBC they are all leftist. So and uh actually we don't have a Fox News in Canada on the other side. So for me the Canadian population has been manipulated by the leftist media. So Polyv is afraid of the reaction coming from the leftist media. But you know you must understand as a politician we are in 2025 and the future is with with independent media podcasters and you must go out there and explain your platform but he doesn't want to do that also because he's afraid of the reaction yes of the mainstream media and also because he cannot have a discussion right now. We don't know what he believes in right now. um he's keeping secret his platform will know that during the election. So now he's speaking only with slogan and for me it's empty slogan and you know there's a lot a lot of people is real conservative base are not happy with him because now he's doing campaign not against the liberals but against Trump and you must know that in Canada they did a survey uh before the presidential election and 65% of Canadians said in that survey that they will have voted for aris and the democrats. So for polyv he um he he tried to pender to that leftist electorate and tried to have their support. By doing that you know is going away from real conservative values and the real conservative values free market values are not so popular today in Canada. So we need to be out there and to speak about our ideas and that's what I'm doing as politicians. And that's why I left and I you know I quit the Conservative Party of Canada uh in 2018 and I said that this party is morally and intellectually corrupt because they won't promote conservative ideas and by doing that they're g giving credibility to the leftist nar leftist narrative and that's what Polyv is doing now and people are not happy with him like you you're not happy with him because he's not doing his job as a real conservatives and he's not. Yeah. To me, it's a a a the reason why I respect Trump as much as I do, as well as Bobby Kennedy anytime, any place, anywhere, and not afraid of the leftist media. Yeah. And in America, you got to respect that. Yeah. And when you when you looked at Kamala or some of the other guys, it wasn't anytime, any any place, anywhere. It just was it had to be controlled. Here's the questions you get to ask me. You better ask this. Nothing more than this. So, I want to play the clip you you and I were talking about earlier. This is uh Pierre playing a clip. Rob, if you can go to my Twitter account. Uh uh uh go up a little bit. A little bit. Keep going. Uh I think it's the one two above. Go two above. Two above. No, the other way. Rob, go two above. Right there. Go down to Ben and Jerry. Go down to Ben and Jerry. It's right there. So go to Piers if you could and let me just first read what he says and then I want to get your commentary on it. So he says, "Last night, President Trump endorsed Mark Carney." Why? Because as Trump said, he's easier to deal with and knows that I will be a tough negotiator and always put Canada first. Carney is weak and would cave to Trump's demands just like he did when he moved his company headquarters from Canada to New York City. Canadians don't want a weak and conflicted leader. They want a strong prime minister who will put Canada first. So now, let me play the clip. Here's Trump. Rob, if you can play the clip of Trump, what he says here. Go for it. Isn't that going to be make them more hostile to us and possibly I'd rather deal with a liberal than a China closer to Canada and that would really put us in a bind. The conservative that's running is stupidly no friend of mine. I don't know him, but he said negative things. So when he says negative things, I couldn't care less. I think it's easier to deal actually with a liberal. Is that going to be So when I posted this, Rob, go go go back to my tweet because I want to show you what people said. Okay, just go to the bottom of the comments to show what Canadians said. So some people said keep the Yeah, right there. If you can go lower. Uh, I've been to Canada. I'm having Okay, Maxim Bernier is the only politician in Canada that can actually understand this. Pierre has never had an actual job outside of politics. He's a World Economic Forum uni party show through and through. He's a useless whatever whatever politician. He's no leader. You're wrong here, Pat. Trump is doing Polia a favor by saying he'd prefer liberals. This is an endorsement for the PP. His policies do exactly what Trump wants. Energy, pipelines, oil. Canada's got a lot of those things. Poly and Carney are hood ornaments. Do you have any suggestions? On a serious note, thanks for saying PM and not governor. Patrick, I think Trump understands this endorsement, especially framed in a term of being a pushover will hurt Carney. He is mitigating the side effect that his tariff policy was driving up liberal support. Pierre has to posture to keep that illusion alive. Who's right here? Yeah, I think that you know, President Trump is right because Podv right now and the liberals car are the same on the most important issues for the future of our country and we can go on on these issues later and right now you know for me it's a lib con party and so you know instead of and people in Canada now if you look in the polls again it's a bad news but the liberals are ahead right now and the election may be called as soon as in couple of days. Why? Because polyv is a liberal light and instead of you know voting conservative li liberal light they will vote for the real liberal and the real liberal is car. So for Trump you know dealing with carne or dealing with polyv is the same and so we are very different as a political party. We are the this populist political party a little bit like Trump and on a lot of policies. Our party is in line with Trump on tariffs like we can have a discussion about that. We have a different position than POV but PV is doing the the war against Trump using tariffs and you know imposing tariffs and taxes on us Canadians. And for him like I told you in the beginning because Trump is not popular in Canada and he's I think he think that you know by being against Trump that will help him in Canada but you know the most important is the policies and uh he's um very disappointing on that and okay so let's let's go go let's go through that so let's take what percentage of Canada are conservatives conservatives yeah specifically conservatives what would you say well you have western Canada Alberta you know Alberta Western Canada uh you know right now there's about a big you know 40% of the population that are conservatives that yeah are ready to vote conservative. Okay. So, of the 40 and by the way, conservative conservative including us, we are the real conservative for sure. You and Pierre, whatever party those two conservative party, you're saying there's about 40% of them. Of the 40% of voters in Canada that are conservative, okay, what percentage of them like Trump? If you look uh you know they did the survey in Canada for people who will who voted for the conservative and will vote for Pv 25% of his base like Trump 25% of his voters got it for me it's about you know 50% of my voters who like Trump so and now by doing that his goal is to split the liberal vote to go ahead and to split the liberal vote but it's at a big risk of losing his base, 25% of his base. And so for us, we can grow there. But for us, our growth will come from nonvoters. There's 40% of the population who didn't vote at the last election. If I have and they don't vote because they don't like these establishment political parties and polyv and carne and trio. So we are the option, the new option for them. So our growth can can be coming from these non voters that may come and vote for us. Okay. So for his base, out of the 40% you said 25% like Trump, 75% don't like Trump. Okay. From your base 50% like at least 50%. But we don't do any polling. We don't do any focus. You're assuming. So it could be 60 70%. Okay. from the conservatives that don't like Trump, why don't they like what about Trump do they not like and his policies? But now it's the tariff. You know, Trump because of the mainstream media, they're saying, "Oh, Trump is against Canada. Trump wants to, you know, invade our country. Trump wants to our country to be the 51st state." So they're they're nationalists and they said, "Oh," and and they believe that the mainstream media and the liberals and the conservative like that like the fact that Trump said we will be or we may be or that will be great if we are the 51st state. They like it because now they said no, we are defending the sovereignty of our country. But all that, you know, it's just when Trump is saying that for me, he's not serious. He's just, you know, having fun against our leaders. He knows that we don't like it. is using that uh telling our prime minister you know the the governor of Canada it's if you and I've did I did read his book you know the art of a deal and that's the way he's doing deals discredit his opponent and he's doing that and using that but in Canada it's good for the liberals they are saying we are the defender of the country but they are not their policy will be very bad for the country and I said politically and we know when I'm doing uh interviews that we are the only hope for Canada if our policies are not adopted are not be adopted in parliament this country is going nowhere you know we need to change that and we have bold policies that are in line and when I'm saying that we are putting Canada Canada first and our country first it's not a a slogan for me it's a reality but for polyv it's an anti- slogan so in 2018 when you left the conservative the party who was polier who was he at the time was he did he have credibility was he famous did he already have influence or no no so so for me I'm not a career politician I did work 19 years in the financial sector in Montreal I did good money over there 2006 I jumped into politics with Harper and I was a minister of foreign affairs minister of industry uh in and polyv was elected at that time polyv was elected at 24 years old never had a real boss he's for the last 20 years. His job is to be a politician and he's a lifelong politician. Oh yeah, absolutely. No private sector experience ever. No, no, no. Before 24, nothing. 24 years old. I think the first job was working in an MP office in Ottawa. NPR office in Ottawa. Yeah. Yeah. Working with a member of parliament in Ottawa in his office. Got it. So it's always been politics. He has zero free enterprise free market experience. Okay. So this guy is doing politics by survey focus group and you know he tried to please everybody but when you do that you're not able to win. Can you give an example of that? When you say he tries to please everybody what examples do you have on on mass immigration in Canada we have mass immigration right now and that's destroying our social fabric. You know we had more than 1.2 million foreigners coming to our country. that and you know for a country of 40 million people that's a lot actually you know the growth of our population last year was 3.2% and the average growth of population in the western countries was 0.2%. And 97% of our population growth is coming from immigration. So if you go like that for a couple of years that's the replacement you know terror but in practice in Canada. So for him he's not speaking about that is okay with mass immigration like the liberals and we are not. We are the only party that is saying we need to have a pause on immigration you know a moratorium on immigration because you know that is affecting economically Canadians. our standard of living is going down. Inflation is up. Uh you know and we have ghettos in our country. People are not integrating into our society. So it's a big mess and we need to have that pause. So uh what I'm telling you is pandering to the ethnic communities like Trudeau. So, Polyv is doing the same game because in some writings in Canada to win and to have a majority, you know, in Toronto for example, there's a lot of writings over there, a seat over there, more than in Alberta. So, and and that region there's a lot of immigrants and they want to have more of their friends coming to Canada. So, Polyv is pendering to them to be sure to win these writings knowing that the majority of the population don't want that mass immigration anymore. But he's not listening to them because for him he's looking writing by writing and he need to to seat by seat which seat he will be able to win to be in government. So it's interesting you're saying that while I'm pulling this up by the way in 2018 who was he somebody in 2018? Yeah in 2018 when you left the cons was he a upcoming guy or not yet? Not yet. Not yet. No. When did he become a superstar? uh only two years ago when he decided to run to because the other leader O2 was a real leftist you know I of the conservative party for so so you I was in politics in 2006 and 2015 Arper didn't win 2017 we had a leadership contest in the conservative party I did run I had 49% of the vote didn't win she was the leader at that time I resigned from the conservative party in 2018 And she was the leader. In 2019, we had a general election, the liberal wand. And after Cheer, they had another leadership contest, a conservative. They put Ul. And Ul was a real, you know, leftist guy. And after that, they put Polyv. And Polyv was a star because he was good on with videos. And I must admit, he's a good communicator. And so he was good. And during the leadership contest, he was speaking like a real conservative to be sure to win the base and to so he was speaking like a real conservative. But after that when he won uh you know he went to the left and to try to please to more people in Canada and so he answering your question he be uh became to be popular uh maybe only three three years ago. So Erin Otul yeah was a leader before him and then it was Andrew Shear. I lost my leadership against him. Yeah. In You lost your leadership against him in 2017. So when they chose him, you said I'm out and you're starting your own thing. Yeah. I'll tell you, you know, 49% of of me the members of the Conservative party did vote for me. So after that leadership contest, I did work 15 months for with Andrew Sheir as as my leader. But I had a private meeting with him and 15 months later, he told me and I want to I want him to take some of my policies and ideas. as they were very popular with the membership. So we had a meeting and he said, "Maxim, you're right. Your ideas are very popular with the membership of the Conservative Party of Canada, but I won't take any of your ideas because now I want to be prime minister of Canada and your ideas are not popular with the population. So at the next election in 2019, forget your ideas." So that's why I He's saying that to you face to face in the 101. Yeah. Is this public information when when he said this to you? Yeah, but I'm I'm putting that public. We have You've never said this before. So in 101, he's telling you you're because your policies are not popular. I won't I won't run. I won't take any of because he wants to be a prime minister. Yeah. And and they're doing politics by polling and survey. So So and then they say I don't have to waste my time here. They are not. And that's why I resigned in 2018 after 15 months when he when he won the leadership when he told me that I resigned. Congress, you know, and I took these ideas and we created the people's party based on these ideas and you know, this party is growing now. But they don't want to speak about something that not that popular today. So that's why they're conservative in name only. How close is he to Pierre Shear now? She and he's number three with him now. So they're close. They're close. Oh yeah, they're close friends. Yeah. Okay. So they're close friends. Again, I'm trying to get smarter. I don't know Canadian politics. Otul is he close with you or not resigning? He's not a member of parliament anymore. He's in the private sector. So forget it. He's in So is he any is he any name in politics in Canada or not really? Nobody mentions Otul. No, he doesn't have endorsement. He has no he doesn't carry weight. Okay. When when is the last time you and Pierre had interaction together? When I was a conservative. When I was a conservative. So uh 2015. How was that interaction with? Yeah. Good. you know, uh, Pierre and I, we, uh, we, you know, we had good conversation and at that time when I was a conservative, he was pushing in, in the caucus privately conservative reform, but, you know, now because he's the leader and so, you know, he forgot all that. But I must admit that you know Stephen Harper was prime minister and I was working with him. Steven Harper was a libertarian and less government, but he did the biggest deficit of the history of our country during the financial crisis. And so Steven had a majority and he didn't use the majority to implement bold reforms. And Steven Harper was a good manager of a big fat government and Polyv will be the same if he's prime minister. I is Steven Harper respected and loved in Canada or no? Yeah. now after yeah he resigned and I think so yeah with the with the conservatives in Canada and Steven Harper is giving advice to Pol right now and Pierre and so Polier is following his footsteps. Oh yeah, absolutely. Okay. So, all right. So, that's good to know. So, a couple things here when you said immigration. I want to show you something with immigration, which was shocking to me when I pulled up the data. So, I looked at uh uh what countries most residents, new permanent residents are coming into Canada because a number starts around 2022. Rob, if you can show up the data that shows the spike in immigration, it's the uh it's that one right there. So you look at this, the net international migration from 1952 to 2023, you're getting some people coming in maybe 200,000 on average, 100,000 on average. All of a sudden, boom. Yeah. 1.2 million. And I looked at the numbers in 2022. Yeah. The number one country that uh migrants, immigrants came in from, 27% was Indians, 118. Yeah. China's number two. Then Afghanistan, Nigeria, Philippines, France, Pakistan, Iran, US, then Syria. This is 2022. 2023 India, China, Philippines, Afghanistan, Nigeria, Pakistan, Cameroon, uh, Arteryia, Iran, US. 2024, India, Philippines, China, Cameroon, Nigeria, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, France. Okay. Then I pulled up a number just to kind of see. Yeah. Uh, in Canada in 1991, according to the Canadian census, the Muslim population in Canada was.9%. The Muslim population today in Canada is 5%. Okay, that's based on your uh uh census that you have. You're right about it. And then the other number that was also shocking is in 2023, population grew by 1.27 million in Canada. Of the people that grew, the number of kids that you guys had that contributed to the 1.27 million was only 2.4%. Yeah. 97.6% were people that came in from other countries. That's not necessarily a growth that some people would call that an invasion. So a replacement, right? Replacement could be one of them. So how different are your policies versus pol when it comes onto this? Pol is okay with mass immigration. His number right now is 250 foreigners every year starting when he if he's prime minister 250,000. For us it's zero. No more. We need we are not able to uh integrate them into our society uh you know and that's destroying our social fabric the countries that you just quote uh you know a lot of them are not sharing western civilization values and we you know we don't do any screening you know that's we must change that when we will reopen to immigration we need to have a face-to-face interview with them we don't have that anymore we need to be sure that they share Canadian values in Canada don't forget also So we have a legislation in Canada and the federal government is promoting multiculturalism. So we are saying to people come to our country keep your culture and you know everything is okay if you don't integrate into our society it's okay. So we have Indian ghettos in BC Bernabby. We have ghettos also in Brenton, Ontario. And there's no incentive for them to come and to integrate into our society. And actually before that we were asking them to speak at least English or French. We have two official languages in Canada, English and French. That was a condition couple of years ago to to come to Canada to be an immigrant. And now it's not anymore. So they don't speak the language, they're going in a ghetto, they don't integrate. That's changing the social fabric of our country. But Pv won't speak about that. He's pending to these ethnic communities to have votes in different writings and more seats. So that's what he's doing. That is part of his strategy because now you know all these immigrants that are coming, the foreigners, they will vote conservative or they will vote liberal. But if you do a big survey, you know, 65% of the population is okay to end mass immigration in Canada and also a majority of immigrants, but older immigrants, people who came here 15 years ago because it was tough for them to come here. They had to speak English and French and they have to prove that they will have a job. It was tough. It took them maybe years. And now they're looking at that everybody can come in Canada with no screening, nothing. It's unfair and they don't want that and they're right about it. Yeah, that makes sense. And by the way, when you're when you're speaking about to the audience uh in Canada, what what uh comparison are you making? What comp? Meaning, let's just say if I'm buying a house and I say, I'm willing to buy this house for $900,000, but Mr. Realtor, what are the comps on the property? The guy next door sold for $820. The house next door sold for $817. The house next door is that similar size to you sold 805. It's not really a $900,000 house. It's really an $815,000 house. Okay, great. I'm getting comps. What country when you guys are looking what Canada can turn into if it goes this way the next 5, 10, 15, 20 years? What do you see happening if they don't change their immigration policies? If we don't change our immigration policy, you know, our standard of living will go down right now. The impact of mass immigration on housing, like you just said, uh, you know, it's scary what's going on with real estate. Yeah, it's scary. You know, a young family cannot buy a house downtown Toronto, downtown Montreal or downtown Vancouver. And the solution for that, it's a question of, you know, supply and demand. And my solution, it's just cut the demand. You know, all these people need a roof and you need to stop that. But for Polyv, he said, we need to build more houses. But actually, you know, 10 years ago, we were building in Canada about 250,000 houses a year. 10 years ago. And now we are still building 250,000 houses a year. And Statistic Canada said that just to match the demand, we need to build 700,000 houses a year. So that's not the solution for the housing crisis in our country. The solution is to have that moratorium on immigration. And I'm not speaking about, you know, the the the fact that the standard of, you know, the pie the economy economic pie is growing in Canada because you have so many people, but the GDP per capita is going down. So our our piece of the pie is smaller. Yeah. Because the population is growing faster than the GDP. So all that mass immigration what all that mass immigration created you know the fact that we are poor for the next last 10 years uh we didn't are we didn't grow our GDP per capita didn't grow so that's that's why people are okay with ending mass immigration but I'm the only one who's speaking about that in Canada yeah and the question I I want to come back to this because Canada's number two country in lumber in the world I think you guys are behind Russia and the average house right now $786,000. Who the hell can afford that? Let's come back to that. But I want to talk to you still on case studies. When I was looking at what uh Poland did, Dominic Tarjinski Yeah. where he said nobody can come here. They're not for immigration and they don't want to go by the demands that EU has with what happened with UK of course UK Brexit. There's a fellow who had a video that went viral in Canada talking about Sharia law. I want to share this with you. And I want to get your thoughts to see how people in Canada feel about this. Is this even a concern that other families are bringing up? Rob, if you don't mind playing this clip, it'd be great. Go for it. By 2016, Muslims will be the biggest religious group the world over. What are you going to do then? Post Sharia is even then we have families. We are making babies. You're not. Our population is going down the slump. One day we can have a Muslim majority nation here in Canada. right in your face. You say that you want Sharia law to displace Canadian law. That doesn't sound very respectful. Not in majority. You wouldn't have any other option, my friend. Doesn't endorse gayism. Islam doesn't endorse homosexuality. The gay people are doing is against the commandments of God. We have Canadian law here and you say that you want Sharia law to displace Canadian law. That doesn't sound very respectful. Majority have any other option. Is this is this a concern in Canada that Canada can turn into the next UK of the west? Not now. Not now. But when I'm speaking I'm telling that to people you know you know like in France there's no go zone over there in UK also because of mass immigration and the the non-integration of these immigrants and uh but it it's it's coming more and more people are are fed up more and more about this specific topic because the Muslim population in Canada grown from 1991 till now from 0.9% to 5%. That's that's 500%. That's a big growth that they've had. Is that a concern because those it's becoming it's becoming a concern. For example, in Toronto uh you know now they're a pressure group. The Muslim community are pressuring you know provincial governments to adopt some you know laws that will you know financial law that will be in line with with their philosophy to be be as you know they cannot pay interest. So there's kind of an arrangement and some regulations at the provincial level to allow them to be able to have you know a mortgage without paying any interest. So the they are coming more and more influential politically. The the answer is yes. But in the main population uh that's not a real concern. The real concern is mass immigration. Now there's no focus. But we need you know radical Islam is present in Canada. That ideology is there. We need to fight that for sure. What is this, Rob? They just pulled up. This is this is a chart showing from 2001 to 2021, just in 20 years, that the Muslim population in Canada has more than doubled from 2.1 um 2.0% to 4.9% across the country. Yeah. How is crime in Canada? I'm curious. Oh my god. Very bad. the very bad because for Trudeau uh you know he was not tough on crimes and you know we did pass legislation when I was a conservative at that time to be really tough on crime but now you know crimes in big big cities are um I don't have the data but if you look at the statistic they're doubled at what they were 10 years ago so yeah you can see that in Canada it's doubled from you said from yeah the last 10 years yeah and this okay so is that a is that And that's a concern actually. And that's why I'm very pleased uh what President Trump did. President Trump decided to actually Wow. Oh, look. Look at that. Yeah. When did Trudeau get elected? 2015. Look at that. Yeah. 2015. Oh my god. Yeah. And Trump, what what I like from Trump, he said, you know, protect your borders. Be sure to fight crimes and all these drug traffickers. And now after nine years, Trudeau decided and the Liberal government decided to do that. But we needed Trump to push our government to work for Canadians. You know, the first role of a leader of a of country is to protect your population. You know, the government, the first role of a government is the safety of their own citizens. And and the liberals did zero net the last nine years. And now because of Trump, now the federal government is investing and fighting crimes. It's it's new but it's coming but look yeah that's the after and by the way to to be to you mentioned Stephen Harper right you said Stephen Harper so Steven Harper was prime minister was prime minister from ' 06 till 15 right go back to that chart Rob so if you go from 2006 declined from what it was to what did he do to lower crime the way that he did in Canada that's very impressive yeah no we passed legislation and actually but the the bad thing is all our legislation that we passed at that time uh you know minimum sentences and things like that the Supreme Court of Canada said it's unconstitutional so couple of years later you know these legislation are not in force anymore and Trudeau was happy with that and look what happened wow okay so let's go back to real estate real estate in Canada you said the current you know we've been building 250,000 uh on average the last houses the I I think the number was whatever it was 10 years ago, it's what you're doing today. It's the same number. It's the same number today. Yes. But the average property value right now in Canada, we looked at the number was is $786,000 for single family homes. That that amazes me. Yeah. In big cities, Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, not in little cities, but yeah, that's that's to say here, right there. So if you look at the average selling price of a home in Canada increased by 0.1% year-over-year 709 the average selling price of a single family home in Canada increased to 786 when you look at the amount of like supply and things that you have why why hasn't somebody in the last 10 years emphasized investing in building more to be able to lower pricing so when a new family is getting married having kids they can't afford to buy $786,000 And actually that there's a link also with our birth rate you know because they did a survey with young family and one of the reason why they didn't they decided not to have kids it's because they want to have a home before and actually that was personally I had two daughters and yes me and my ex-wife decided to buy a house before having kids so so they cannot buy a house and they're not having kids so that's another relations but why if you ask me why we must ask the liberal government there's a lot of regul regulations also in big cities and so there's no incentive for provinces to cut down on regulations and there they're there and it it's it's it's if you want to buy to to build something in a big city in Canada and to have all the permits it can take months. So that's another big problem that we have. Rob, can you pull up the birth rate in Canada? I just pulled it up right now. I'm looking at it. Canada's fertility rate is amongst the lowest in the world, placing it in the lowest of the low category. Yeah. With a rate of 1.26. Right now you have it at 133. I have it at 1.26 children born per woman in 2023. That's a 2022 rate. Joining countries like South Korea, Spain, Italy, and Japan. So the the logic for that's the logic for mass immigration. They're saying our birth rate is going down. Let's bring all these people. But you know these people are not young. Usually they're you know they're about you know an average of I don't know 30 years old or something like that. They're not so young. And so we that's not the solution. The solution is easy. Could cut that mass immigration, do all these bold reform, balance the budget, cut taxes, being sure to give more money in the pockets of these families and they would be able to have a kid if they want to. Yeah, that is um that is uh scary to think about the birth rate. By the way, I just pulled up a number to see if it can break down what percentage it's not breaking down percentage, it's telling me numbers on what age they are, the people that are coming in. But birth rate, let's let's go to that. Let's But they they're not so young. So stick Canada, I think they did a survey about that. if you like statistic Canada uh average um age of immigrants something like that Canada 25 to 54 the median age of middle wow yeah so wow 47 years old yeah that's not the solution they're not going to have kids 47 year olds no wow and and you told us the country where they're coming from. They're not coming from Europe or from you know America other countries. They're coming from third. That's why I I tweeted and I said that you know when you import third world uh people coming from third world countries your country will become a third world country and that's what is happening that's changing the social fabric of our country and that's why populist movement in in UK in France in Germany are growing because of immigration and that's the same thing here in Canada yeah I just pulled this up I asked the question saying why why does Canada have such a low birth rate and it says economic factors. Yeah. Housing in cities like Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal. Yeah. Job market. Many young Canadians struggle for job security, high student debt. But but now Yeah. But now with mass immigration, the we are importing cheap labor and so that's a problem. We said in India we had a lot of fake students coming from India. They came here. They had a fake diploma. And usually when you are an international student, you come here, you study and you leave after that. You're going back to a country of origin. They don't want to leave. They use that to be uh permanent residents. And after the diploma, they want to stay here. And Polyv and Trudeau said, "Okay, we'll give you the permanent residency." So these people are cheating. They don't want to go back to their country. And Polyv and the liberals are saying, "It's okay. We'll give you a gift. You don't respect our legislation, but we will give you a gift. we will give you permanent residency. That's the position of this. Is that really his position? Yeah, that is really po's position is permanent residency for anybody that's come the last three years of getting permanent residence. That's the to solve the the the international students that are coming to Canada they want to stay and they he's pendering to them and look you know international students from India and what's the title say Rob? I'm not sure if this right article cut liberal signing signaling immigration the radical out of control NDP liberal government has destroyed our son. Yeah. I want to know what he says about making them permanent residents. Yeah, he said that for the students. I don't know for the international student. So he said he's going to make uh the the India international students will they will have the right he said they will have the right to work here uh more than 10 hours a week and they will have the right to stay here after that. So that's what what he wants. But actually these and and I and you can find a video of me speaking with an international students in PI and I and they did protest all across the country and I said in his face you know after your diploma if you don't leave the country we will deport you and I said that you know uh I don't know a video from uh h this one here on pause it because I want to put the Go for it. Now you can stay but when they going to be expired we will see at that moment. Yeah but what I'm saying if some of you have their permit that are nobody standing there nobody is illegal. They have their permits. But in your group of 100 people nobody is expired. If they would have been expired they would have been deported. Okay. But they will be deported when it be expired. You no they won't be deported. You just said that when it's going to be expired they will be deported. They will be legalizing their stay. No deportation will be needed in that moment. Uh but we will need the That's why you need to have full knowledge. You are a leader. I think you should have a full knowledge before you get I have a full knowledge. I'm saying when the permit is expired, you must be the You are saying my permit is expired. It isn't. No, no. If it's not, but it will be in couple of weeks or in couple of months. I can extend it. But I I hope they won't because we don't need you. They will. No, we don't need you here in this country. How can you decide it? Because for example, if there's Canadians, there's young Canadians that can work at Tim Orton. We then they can I'm not working. Unbelievable. The level of audacity to say that they think that they have, you know, the right to stay here. Nowadays, more than ever, the brand you wear reflects and represent who you are. So for us, if you wear a future looks bright hat or a value tamement gear, you're telling the world, I'm optimistic. I'm excited about what's going to be happening. But you're a freethinker. You question things, you like debate. And by the way, last year 120,000 people got a piece of future looks bright gear with value tamement. We have so many new things. The cuff links are here. New future looks bright. This is my favorite, the green one. Just yesterday, somebody placed an order for a hundred of these. If you watch the PBD podcast, you got a bunch to choose from. White ones, black ones. 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So actually some universities are very happy with that. It's a way because the federal government and provincial governments are cutting funding to universities. So they use the international students to finance their operations. So that's also and I told you university no you know you won't use that that trick to be able to have more money just raise your fees if you want to. So okay so what is your solution on two things? What are you going to do to fix immigration and what are you going to do to increase birth rate because you you the economy is what you got to address for families to decide to want to have kids. How are you going to address those two issues? So first the moratorium on immigration, no more immigrants and so that's important. Second that's all about the economy. So we want to balance the budget in Canada. We can do that in one year. Uh we will cut foreign aid$8 billion. We'll save that. We'll cut corporate subsidies $10 billion. Our deficit in Canada this year is $62 billion. So we can achieve that. Polyv is not speaking about that because it's not popular to speak about cutting. We will cut. We'll have a smaller government in Canada. We'll have our Canadian dodge. You know, I I said that in 2020 that you know we need to have a a department of downsizing the government. I said that in 2020. So we will do that. We'll balance the budget. We'll lower taxes. We'll have a flat tax on business at 15%. We will we have five tax brackets in Canada right now on your income will go down to three and the goal is go down to one. So reforming the federal government, downsizing the federal government, respecting our constitution. Right now the federal government is a big fat government interfering in provincial jurisdiction and provincial autonomy. We'll do that. We'll be able and have you know we have also a capital gains tax in Canada. We will cut that. No more capital gains tax in Canada. uh so lowering taxes and we don't have a real free trade in Canada. You know this country has been built in eight 1867 and the reason that we exist as a country first was to have an economic union in Canada to be able to compete against you guys in the south. That was the idea to have an economic union and now we don't have that. There's trade barriers between provinces. So we need to have a real economic union. We need to work about that. We need also to develop our natural resources. In my own province in Quebec, there's a moratorium on the development of shell gas for example. And so we need to be real pro market and be able to develop natural resources. To do that, we need to withdraw from the Paris Accord, but Polyv is okay with that. Polyv, I must admit, he won't impose a carbon tax to Canadian consumers, but it will impose more regulation on businesses. he will give subsidies to the green industry because you know he will do everything to achieve the Paris accord targets. We won't we will withdraw from that like like President Trump. So yes, we need to have that big you know uh and bold reforms at the federal level to be sure to have a smaller government being able to lower taxes and be giving more money in pockets of families. H how how do you because when I watch how he manages the relationship with President Trump and then you see President Trump saying what he's saying about you know uh uh Mark Carney and how how are you uh able to manage working with the president when the president is saying Canada 51st state are you at all even open to the idea of Canada 51st state or that's just a you know he's just toying with you that's kind of how you view it but what is your approach on let's just say you end up becoming a prime minister What do you what is your approach going to be on dealing with President Trump? I'm not open to the 51st state. You know, I'm doing like Trump in Canada. I'm fighting for Canadians and for the sovereignty of our country. I'm putting my people first. So, the way to deal with President Trump, it's you know, you need to right now we have a free trade agreement between us, the US, and Mexico. And that that will will have to be reopened in 2026. We need to reopen that free trade agreement right now and we need to put everything on the table. For example, President Trump is the one who negotiated the free trade agreement when he was president at his first term and he wanted to for your dairy producers to be able for them to export their milk in Canada. But because we have a cartel, a system called the supply management, you know, our dairy, poultry and eggs producers are producing only for the Canadian market. They cannot export and they are fixing the price. They call that supply management. It's a legal cartel. So, and Trump was not so happy at the last negotiation because, you know, we said, "No, we want, you know, we have to protect the cartel and we won't open our borders to your uh milk, cheese, and eggs." So, we need to put that on the table. But PV and Trudeau, they want to protect the cartel. They're very influential. Actually, you know, they did uh they did buy membership cards of the Conservative Party of Canada when I was running to be the leader to be sure that I won't win because I I said at that time 10 years ago, we need to abolish that cartel. And it would be good for Canadian consumers because we are paying twice the price if we compare that price with prices in US for me, poulry and eggs because of that cartel. So let's put that on the table. I'm the only one who's saying that we will be able to have a good deal. And Trump said, you know, if you're imposing tariff, I will impose tariff. If you withdraw your tariff, I will do the same. I believe in free trade. Let's do a real free trade. But right now there's 300% tariffs on the milk and you cannot export your milk in Canada because you won't be competitive with that tariff for 300%. But it's not only with milk, it's a lot of other products. We don't have a free trade between Canada and US. We have a managed trade. We need Trump wants to have you know a a fair relationship. Let's abolish all these tariff. It will be good for us and good for you. So first put everything on the table. Be sure to reinvest to protect our borders. Be sure to reinvest also in our own defense. We are not doing that. We need to at least spend 2% of our GDP in our defense. We're not doing that. It's maybe 1.2% or something like that. We need also to have a new defense relationship with US. And you know uh Trump is a little bit concerned about the north, our border in the north with Russia. So and the Arctic. We need to be sure we don't have a base over there as Canadians. So, we need to reinvest there. We need to protect and have a new agreement, defense agreement with you guys. So, we can do that. If we do that, I'm pretty sure that we'll have a good deal. When Trump is speaking about, you know, Governor Trudeau or 51st state is for me, you know, it won't happen. It's not serious. But what I understand also he wants to bring back manufacturing industry in the US including you know businesses from Canada. So what we have to do as a country we need to have you know economic policies that would be more competitive. So our you know income tax on business is too high. So let's let the free market decide but I want to compete with US and I want our businesses to be able to compete with you guys. But now they're not able. That's why there's tariff. So we need to lower tax on business, cut capital gains tax, less regulation and like that's the only way to build our country and to be competitive. So with regards to him getting closer to uh Carney when he's talking about coming to uh tariffs, what what are Canadians saying that Mark did to get Trump to feel more comfortable doing a deal with him than with Pierre? Why is he feeling more comfortable with Mark instead of Polier? I think because first uh you know Polv uh is speaking about you know a bigger u uh trade war with us. Pv is the first one who said you know we must impose dollar for dollar tariffs and now Carne is going away from that. the we Carne and the Liberal did impose 25% tariffs on us on Canadians. Don't forget the 25% tariffs that Trump is imposing right now. It's on American businesses and American consumers. They're the one who will pay for that. Our products would be less competitive. But at the end, that's okay. American consumers who are paying for that. So what we did countered tariffs 25%. And that was a bad idea. I was the only leader to say you must not impose that. we cannot win a trade war with the US and you know that will be our consumers Canadian businesses and Canadians consumers who will pay for that. It's another tax on Canadians. So Carney did impose that with the Liberals. But Carney said recently he said you know I won't go dollar for dollar because he said what I'm saying right now you know and what I said before we cannot compete against the US in a trade war. But Pol is more, you know, antag is more against Trudeau. Uh, sorry, not Trudeau, but Trump and he wants to go ahead and impose more tariffs. So maybe that's why also Trump doesn't like him. And isn't Mark's background uh like was he with the Bank of L? Who was he with? He had a financial background, right? Goldman. Okay, there you go. Goldman Sachs, Bank of Canada. So he knows how to make deals. So maybe Trump feels more comfortable talking to a business guy than a guy that's a career politician like Absolutely. Yeah, you have a point there. Got it. That's interesting. So, but also Carne is the globalist in chief. Carne was the special envoy for the UN on climate action and finance. So Carney is a big believer in climate change. Uh so that and he's a big globalist also. We must admit that. But yes, he was in a private sector. He's a business guy. So maybe Trump think that he will be able to have a better deal with a guy that knows business. Does Pierre have a history of being able to make deals and be a diplomat and negotiate with others and sit get get people from across the aisle to want to talk to him and get deals done or no? No. He was what is his biggest accomplishment? What's biggest accomplishment? He was a junior. Can you put that on Pier Pv and you say he was a junior minister in the upper government. I was industry minister, foreign affair minister. I was dealing with Kandali Razar at that time and Pv was a junior minister you know look at it. Um Canadian he was minister for um Do you see it Robert? No. No. Junior Minister in the press Steph minister to for democratic reform employ you know he had a little and junior portfolio so he was not foreign affairs he was not industry minister big portfolio he was not finance minister yeah I'm just trying to find out what is his biggest accomplishment why is he love why is he loved by his party respected the way he is because when He did campaign for the leadership of the conservative party. He was speaking like a real conservative and did and he was very popular, you know, on social media. He was he's very good to do little videos and you know, so he was very popular there and they thought that Pv is a real conservative and now they're very disappointed. So, got it. Yeah, I just typed it up. It says becoming a leader of the Conservative Party 2022 68% opposition to carbon tax advocating for economy and housing reform is axe the tax and build more homes. Yeah, but ax the tax. It's funny because the liberals and car said okay we will ax the tax. Pv did ask for a an election based on the carbon tax. Ax the tax. He wanted that the main subject during the campaign must be axe the carbon tax. But now Carney said he did it. Carney said, you know, the carbon tax won't exist for Canadian consumers. And I'm saying, you know, no more taxes, no more regulation. We must withdraw from the Paris Accord. I'm the only one. But the election must be on immigration like you just show us. You know, everything that this country will be destroyed by mass immigration and that must be the subject of the campaign. So, you know, when President Trump talks about 51st state, making Canada the 51st state, I I sit there at first I'm like, is he trolling? Is he serious? Is he playing? Is he trying to get under your skin? Is he trying to make you upset your skin? Let's just say he is, right? And then I sit there and I, you know, don't put the tariffs. That's not fair to this. That's not fair to that. And you go to military expenditure. You said it earlier a minute ago. Canada's military expenditure is 1.2 1.3%. Nothing. Right. And we have a woke that's a woke Canadian forces. You know, they're promoting because of the color of your skin and your sexual orientation. The leadership of the Canadian forces is woke right now. Who is that? Who is the leader at the top that's woke? But it's a lady that was a lady couple of years ago. I don't know who is it, but they're woke. You know, they're promoting wokeism in that organization. Uh the lady before now it's a guy but Janine Carrian. Carrian is that one? Yeah. And she's still there I think she Is this the one? Jenny. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Jenny. So she was uh first lady the current chief defense and she was appointed. Yeah. The first woman there. She's there because she's a lady. That's it. You know she's there because she's a lady. Oh for sure. You know and so so but what do you do? So you reform the leadership of the Canadian forces first and you reinvest in in our defense. How how weak is your military? You don't have I mean Canada is not known for military right? No. You know I was foreign affair minister when we had that war in Afghanistan and you know I travel in Europe to ask my counterparts other foreign affair minister please help us in Afghanistan. We don't have any resources. We need more you know planes. we need help in Afghanistan and so we were, you know, asking for help in Europe and other countries to be sure to be at least efficient in Afghanistan. So, no, we don't have we're a very weak Canadian Canadian force. You're ranked as 28. You're behind countries like Algeria, Thailand, Singapore. Greece is right next to you. Uh meaning they're ranked 38. Singapore is 29. Thailand so much. So can I say so if I'm if when I hear that, you know what it makes me think about? It upsets me because it makes me think about that Canada just because they're neighbors with America and America is so strong in military, they don't need to invest into the military. So guess what? No one's going to attack us because America's our neighbor. They're not going to mess with us. So that causes me, if I'm Trump, to say, "Yeah, that's why you're going to become the 51st state or I'm going to put tariffs on you." So, I'm actually really curious to know how the negotiation's going to go with Trump the next 3 6 12 months because if everything you guys produce, if we can make in America and bring those jobs back and he puts his foot down and Mark, Pierre, somebody fumbles, this could be catastrophic for Canadians. Absolutely catastrophic for Canadians. But that's why I'm saying we are the last hope for this country. We have the right economic policies. uh you know I think I know what we can do to have a good deal with Trump but he's right about that we are taking for granted our defense we are saying oh the US is there let's not and and you know we need to be serious about that and I said that I don't know how many times but it is time to be serious and that's why we need to cut all these programs you know we are giving money in other countries to promote woke ideology the trans ideology we are we are spending money and money that first of all we don't have with our deficit. So let's be serious and you know I'm honest I'm telling Canadians yes we have to cut the budget we will be able to do that it can be you know difficult but let's do it if we want to go ahead and have prosperity in Canada. You know I I just had a conversation with Ron Paul like right before you. Ron Paul and I did a one-hour podcast together. Oh that's great. I I had the privilege had a dinner with Ron Paul when I was in parliament. He came in Otawa. You know, great guy. He's phenomenal. Yeah. And you know when when you ask him what is it to be a libertarian? Boom. Bum bum bum bum bum. You ask you know what is it to be an American? You know I'm proud to be an American or at least I know I'm free, right? And then you kind of you can sell America, right? What does it mean to be a Canadian? We are not American. What does that mean though? But but but not not what are you guys what is Canadian that's what maybe Canadians you know we are not American we are Canadians so okay if we are not American we are you know more for social programs you know we care a little bit more about people we have a socialist policies in Canada so we have you know the way that the the federal government or or our politicians are are you know speaking about Canadian identity they're speaking about the legislation they oh We have you know our health care system is good you know it's not like the US it's not a private health care system you know everybody you know has a protection but it's not going well you here you have you know privatization at least 100% in Canada it's socialism there so they are describing us based on social program the reality is we are different because this country Canada is different we have different culture you know the culture in Quebec in my own province is very different than the culture in Alberta. The culture in Alberta is very different than the culture in PI. That's a country that we are the only country. What is it to be a Canad I still don't know what it is to be a Canadian. What is it to be a Canadian? What it is to be a Canadian? We like you, you know, we believe in freedom. We believe in less government and more autonomy. We believe that if you're a Canadian, you have the opportunity to grow and to do what you want in life. And now it's not the case anymore. We have the big fat government that is taxing us and regulating us all the time. So to be a Canadian is to be a free man that we can do what we want. But right now it's not the case anymore. And with mass immigration, you know, you know, we need to know our history. And the majority of Canadian don't know the history of our country. You know, are these new immigrants? They're telling me that, you know, I'm a immigrants also. No, my roots are, you know, coming from at least 300 years, you know, I'm a settler, you know, we came I'm coming from France and in Quebec and same thing for people coming from Europe in Canada. We need to speak about our our country. uh we are not but we have different cultures and that's you know the franophhone part of Canada is the only place in North America that you have a franophhone government majority of franophhone try to speak French and and be prosperous so who's your hero who who are Canadians heroes if you give me three heroes like when I was in Brazil and I'm talking to Jer Bsonaro you would hear Senna you would hear Pelle and you would hear Jaer Bossonado and you would hear different names, right? Who are of course you may say Gretzky, but who are some heroes in Canada? Top three. Laurier, Wilfred Laurier in the beginning of our conferation was prime minister from Quebec and you know he was for free trades and he was very for a smaller government. He was a liberal but a classical liberal. Uh and also you know if you speak about sport uh you know Moraurice Rishaw was a big you know Canadian French Canadian uh hockey players with the can Montreal Canadians uh if you speak about music selenium uh she's very well known and you know personally uh I'm I'm not a fan of her music but you know I'm proud that she's successful around the globe. Um, yeah. But, uh, Leonard Co is Canadian. Leonard Co is Canadian. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, we have we have we have we have a a great, you know, franophhone anglophone culture, but actually we have a very bad government. Yeah. And so, so you know, a part of that with the culture, the stronger the culture is, the more pride there is to protect it. The weaker the culture is, the more it allows President Trump to come in and say, "Hey, if you guys are not that proud to be Canadians, why don't you become American?" I can see how he's doing that. Now, but let me ask you this question because, you know, a lot of times you'll hear, "Well, we're independent from UK. We're independent from UK. We're independent from UK. We're independent. We're independent. We're I'm sorry, from France. We're independent." You're right, with those guys. But then your carney just went and sat down with the king, right? Didn't that just happen? And I think sometime was did that just happen a week ago, right? He was in Europe, he was in UK. Why why is it that you know even though it's like no we are our own but let us go and meet with King Charles after Trump threats was kind of like hey King Charles can you protect us from Trump because Trump is doing this. Yeah we're not we're not part of a UK any but hey we kind of need because he's trying to bully us. Why is that? It's like because the impression to me is like you're running to daddy to protect from a bully. Is that the wrong impression or the right impression? No, he I think he went there you know to try to have you know our economy is 75% dependent on you guys. We are exporting as you know you have a trade deficit with us. The majority of the trade def deficit is coming because of oil and gas first. If you don't if you don't put that in equation you won't have a trade deficit with us. So it's coming because of oil and gas. So what he I believe what he tried to do is to be sure to be able to have maybe a free trade agreement with Europe or or and or with UK. Actually we tried to have a free trade agreement with UK a year ago. That free trade agreement didn't work because of what the cartel. The Canadian government said we have to protect the cartel and the uh you know the UK said we want to export the Stilton in Canada because of cheese. we were not able to have a free trade agreement and now they're saying oh you know now we need to look at you know having more you know opportunities for our businesses and let's go and try to sign free trade agreements with Europe and other countries and UK yeah when I see that uh how how does Canada look at Canada Canadians how does how do Canadians look at uh UK and France is it friendly what's the relationship ship there. It's it's a friendly one actually. Uh yes, but uh you know the reality is we are in North America. We need to have good relationship with you guys. I I fully agree. That's the basic you know we cannot go pro we cannot be and with the multi-olar world right now with China, Russia bricks countries. So we we are with you guys and we need to just have a good deal with you that would be good for you and for us. Yes, we can try to have other free trades agreement and uh you know being less dependent on your market but in fact you know it's easier now for business people to export to the US than to trade across the country. So we need to fix that like I said but let's have a deal and put everything on the table and have a real free trade. And Trump said, you know, you put tariff, I'll put tariff. You withdraw from tariff, I will do the same. So, let's do it. Let's be serious. There's a lot of tariffs that we are imposing to you guys. Let's put that on the table, please. Is Carney putting that on the table right now? No. Part Carney, Carney and PV are not putting the cartel on the table. And you know, Trump did win all the swing states, including Wisconsin. Your dairy producers are in w Wisconsin. sorry, they want to export to Canada and Trump is listening to them and we are saying and we said to Trump at the first free trade agreement that we signed together, no, no, no. But now he's coming back and he's serious about that. But for our establishment politicians, oh no, Trump is tweeting about that, but that's not ser that is serious. If we want to have a deal, we need to put that on the table. If not, we won't have a deal. Justin Trudeau, right? I mean, he we haven't even talked about him yet. Justin Trudeau, have you had any interactions with him? Have you uh what is how different is he behind closed doors than he is when the camera is on? Or is it the same person? You know, I had a dinner with him uh maybe two times when I was in parliament. I was in government. He was in the opposition. And at that time, you know, we had a dinner and um he said, you know, Maxim, a day you're going to be the leader of the Conservative Party and one day, sorry. And one day I'll be the leader of the Liberal Party of Canada. So, and that was maybe in 2009, 2010. Um, and this guy, you know, is funny. uh is a very a good communicator, a good actor, you know, he can cry on demand. I cannot do that. But he can. He just did that a couple weeks ago. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He can. But you know, there's nothing there. He's empty. Uh you know, you'll have a beer with him. He will chat and about, you know, culture and sport and things like that. But you know does this guy you know what what he did for the country he did destroy our country in nine years and we we so it's you immigration the economy the growth of our GDP is going down and GDP per capita like I said so personally you know uh you know we had a nice dinner chhat but u no the guy is a little bit also full of himself and he's that publicly privately also he think that you know he's running on the name of his dad you know his dad was very well known and I said it you know this guy was elected the leader of the liberal party because of his name Trudeau and his dad and also his look you know he was young and but now people realize and and that's why I believe that the liberal it would be very tough for them with carne to be reelected because of that record from from what was father known for? His father's was known for uh starting the multiculturalism in Canada. He's the one who and he did that to try to uh you know when his father was in power we had a separatist movement in Canada. You had Rene Levik at that time and and we had a referendum on the independence of Quebec and the way to fight that was with multiculturalism. So Trudeau said there's no two uh you know two uh funding nation Quebec Angophone and franophhone and he tried and and that was the beginning of multiculturalism and Trudeau put that at the extreme. So he was well known also to fight the separatist uh in Quebec. Uh he was well known also to fight uh um western Canadians and being against the oil and gas industry at that time also. So, uh, Tudo was a real socialist, actually. Yeah. His father to father. Yeah. Yeah. I'm looking at it right there. Liberalized divorce, abortion, homosexuality in 1967 as minister. Uh, very So, so now with the current state of things, I looked at the numbers. I called a couple different guys and one of the fellows I talked to, uh, he, let me see here. Okay. He asked to stay uh anonymous, but you know who he is. I asked him, I said, "So, what's the difference between Pierre and Max?" Curious to know what he's going to be saying. uh if I say who this person is, he was involved in politics. No, what I'm saying is, you know who it is. He says, um, short answer, Pierre will be prime minister. Max probably won't even win his own seat. But more fundamentally, Max is a true libertarian and has always been Pierre is a true blue conservative. Do you agree with him on the on the politics at the end? The libertarian and the true blue conservative. Well, Pier is is a red is a red Tory. He's not a blue conservative. Look at his policy. He's a red Tory like a liberal. You know, I said climate change. I said immigration. I said, you know, the war in Ukraine also polyv is for the war in Ukraine. right now he said you know Canada must help Ukraine and Trump is try is trying to have a peace deal over there so we are the only one who said that about you know yeah I'm saying that Trudeau won't win but you know we uh we are a small political party right now in Canada but our growth is going very well and uh maybe I won't be prime minister at this election but I may be prime minister at the next one in 2029 because we're doing politics on the long term and our ideas are becoming more and more popular. But, you know, I'm a Yeah. On economy, I can be a libertarian for sure, but I'm a I'm a real conservative. Family values, fate, uh, less regulation, more freedom. I'm the only one who did fight for freedom of choice during the COVID hysteria in Canada. You know, we had lockdowns, stay-at-home orders, vaccine passport. Polyv was okay with that. You know, if you're a real conservative, you must fight that. You must fight for individual freedom. Polyv was not fighting for individual freedom. I was so uh you know these look we are like a little bit the reform party in UK with Nigel Farage. Uh Nigel you know at the last election he had only 15% of the vote. He was able to elect six MPs six candidates. And now after a year after that election Nigel is ahead in the polls with the reform party. and the reform party it's about the same platform of our of our political party the people's party so what I'm telling you you know the growth can come but because of our parliamentary system it's a little bit more difficult for us there's no proportionality in our electoral system it's not like in France or other country where you have proportionality in your electoral system we don't it's a parliamentary system so it's more difficult to have seat but we will it's interesting because when I asked the polls How big is the People Party of Canada? Roughly 4.9% is what I see. 5% is what I see. 5%. That's the score that we had at the last election. Okay. So my goal for this election is to double that. Okay. So if we double that to 10, you know, we may have couple of candidates elected, but our goal is to push, you know, the government that would be elected in the right direction to promote our ideas, to change the the public opinion. And you know we were successful on immigration. Now you know our challenge is the mainstream media is not speaking about us. They know that if we have more visibility we will grow faster. And like I said in the beginning they're leftist. They don't want to. That's why you know I'm doing podcast and I want to thank I love that. I respect that a lot. But I'm I'm going somewhere with this. If you can show the poll I ran. I ran a poll. This is March 7th. Say 10 days ago 13 days ago. Yeah. Who is a better candidate for Prime Minister Canada? You had 34%. and he had 51. Yeah. And if you go a little lower in the comment section, Rob, just to kind of see uh these two uh uh party of choice. Okay. How are you not seen up here as just another globalist uni party who deserves to slither away and never be heard from again? I don't know who this person is. Rachel, Caroline, PL, I'm just trying to see how the audience responds. The PPC Max needs to be the party of our choice uh to remotely start to heal from the years of government abuse. Maxim Bernier, no contest. I mean, if you go through the com comment section, you have a lot of people that want you to, you know, be up there. Yeah. And and get the attention. You have a big support from uh the audience with Canada. What do you think needs to happen? And by the way, in Canada, is it is it similar to u uh Brazil where Pierre if it gets to it to win, he's going to need you to beat Carney or No. Is that how it works? But you got to kind of get in there to help him out or no? No. uh you know if like Trudeau Trudeau does didn't have a majority government he had a majority in 2015 but now that's a minority government so they had a coalition with the NDP and so if Pv doesn't have a majority he will need to do a coalition so we can have couple of MPs there and and be and and doing that deal with polyier for sure but we won't merge with the conservative party because the conservative conservative party is not conservative anymore. So that's the big problem. Look at every issues. They are not they are afraid to speak about conservative values. You know everything that Trump did, you know, working against the woke ideology, there's only two sexes. PV won't say that. He won't say that. He said, I must admit, he said that there's two genders. But after that, the journalist did ask, you know, if you apply for your Canadian passport, Mr. polyv you have male female and ex are you you're going to have only male and female for the application and he doesn't want he didn't want to answer that question so he said no the the preation is the economy stupid I want so for him you know walkism and the trans ideology it's not important for me it's important it's unfair and di you know diversity equity and inclusion we need to change that we need to have you know unity or you know promoting you know meritocracy and not inclusion but polyv won't go there polyv is not doing the cultural war that's why people are mad at it Trump is doing that in the US I'm doing that in Canada that's such a if that's the case that's such a lame and weak position I mean look at this here from January poly market look what pier was okay go to January Rob if you could you zoom it all the way back no way where you were right there zoom it a little bit pier according to poly market was at 90% carney was at 12%. That that was at that time Trudeau okay but Carney oh Trudeau is there as well 3.6% 6% to win the Rob is that what you're running and then now if you come to today poly market says what he went from 91 to 41 is this really true that he's dropped 50 points of popularity yeah right now in the poll car um have an evident that is what happened for him to drop 50 points because his branding was to be against Trudeau and you know and he didn't he didn't put out there policies and that's oper told him you So you are the leader of the opposition. Your role is to oppose everything that Trudeau is doing. Don't go out there with policies first because if they're good, the liberal will steal it and and run on your policies. And second, you know, if they're not good, they will destroy you. So don't run on any policies, just be against. So now the problem is Trudeau is not there anymore. So you have a new leader and so his branding is against Trudeau. And now you have Trump and no now you know people want want to have somebody that will fight Trump and uh and he's not that guy. It doesn't have, you know, any private sector experience and you can't and also don't forget the media also. The mainstream media did promote PV. I told you they're not PV. Sorry, Carney. They did promote him. But that's Pier's fault for not wanting to go and talk to other people. He just, you know, he cannot right now because it's empty slogan. He cannot, he doesn't have any any platform. So, he cannot have a discussion. I hope he does. he will have a platform during the campaign but it's a little bit late and you know it's all about you know he believes that if you want to win election you need to have good coverage from the mainstream media and said forget forget the mainstream media. So when he's doing a press conference it's all about you know he's speaking like you know by slogan and with no details because he doesn't want to give details. PV doesn't know what he believes in right now. He will know when just before the election when he will do poll and focus group. So that's why I said he's a follower is following the public opinion that has been manipulated by the leftist media. He's not leading and now you can show that that's why it's happening. People wants a leader with ideas and polyv is not out there. Rob, is this updated as of today, March 20th? Yep. It says up in the uh top corner this is poly market poly market. Yeah that that is embarrass Can you go to another go to Vegas odds? Can you just go to Vegas odds to see what Vegas odds are saying about prime minister in Canada Kennedy and prime Yeah. What's Vegas odds saying 2025? Uh are they doing anything or no there there's they did I think Vegas odds. Oh man, that is that is just absolutely embarrassing. Next prime. Okay, there's one here. Yeah, Poly Market. That's the one. So yeah, I mean you're No, you're on the one. That was the one Rob that sauce just sent. Wow, that's You can go. So 338 Canada 338 Canada. Yeah. Three 338. I'm on it right now. Yeah. Yeah. So they're going to tell you by Okay. by seats. So, which one will have more seats? And right now they're saying the Liberals will have more seat than the Conservative. Yeah. So, 178 130. Yeah. And to have a majority you need 162 seats. So, right now he's behind by 32. Yeah. Yeah. So, so you know the Liberals are very popular in Quebec. They have a lot of seats there in Ontario and Podv is a popular out west. Okay. So, I have a a CEO of a major insurance company in in uh Canada. And here's what he sent me to ask. His question was, "Will you commit resources to lifting interprovincial trade barriers?" Yes, I said that 10 years ago. Absolutely. And you know what? The federal government can do that. You know it's in our constitution that is under the responsibility and the jurisdiction of the federal government intern you know we need to have real internal trade and free trade across the country and yes you can do that you use the constitution to be sure to have that after 100 and more than 150 years we still don't have an economic union in Canada but the good news is the government of Nova Scotia two week two two weeks ago they said okay we will have a new legislation no more trade barriers uh in our province and that's an incentive for other provinces to do that also you know we are welcoming goods coming from other provinces and they were the first one to do that so I hope that other province provinces will follow if not the federal government can push that and use the power that we have in the constitution to do it. That's very important when you're because to us it may not be a big deal in America. We don't know what that means, right? But over there it's kind of like being in EU and you know you're trying to do business and it's a little bit complicated. It's easier it's easier for a business in New Brunswick to sell goods in Maine than it is to sell that in Quebec. So we need to abolish all that. That's crazy. Yeah. That's the reality. Well, Max, I'm going to give you final thoughts. This has been a pleasure talking to you. I appreciate you for coming out. I love your energy for the audience that's watching this. Uh he lands last night and this morning you ran 12k 12 12k this morning prior to coming to the meeting and we had a great conversation about Doug Fluty because he used to play football back in the days and Doug Fluty was a Canadian, you know, he went from Boston College to play quarterback. Final thoughts to Americans and Canadians that may be listening to this. Yeah, I'm telling to Americans, we won't be the 51st state. Just understand that we love you. We love you and we can have a better relationship. And I understand Trump and I'm ready to work with your president to be sure that you know we will do what is right to protect your own security by protecting our own security in Canada. Respect. Maxim. This has been a pleasure having you on. Thank you so much for coming out. It's been fantastic. That was fun. Thank you. Take care everybody. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Nowadays, more than ever, the brand you wear reflects and represent who you are. So for us, if you wear a future looks bright hat or a value tamement gear, you're telling the world, I'm optimistic. I'm excited about what's going to be happening, but you're a freethinker. You question things. You like debate. And by the way, last year 120,000 people got a piece of future looks bright gear with value tamement. We have so many new things. The cuff links are here. New future looks bright. This is my favorite, the green one. Just yesterday, somebody placed an order. 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