Patrick Bet David on Andrew Tate, Corruption, and Getting Rich

we have a choice to make good decisions and bad decisions that's not going away anytime soon it's on us it's not him it's us doing it you got to go through it and pay the price 88 of SMP 500 companies their largest shareholder is either State Street Vanguard BlackRock why does God allow pain and suffering and evil to exist in this world although before we go into that you might have noticed that our intro today was on fire it was so good the background music was crazy and you're probably thinking to yourselves holy moly Graham where did you get that music well thankfully your sponsor epidemics so no joke guys we've been subscribed to epidemic sound for over three years now and we use them across multiple channels on a regular basis and they're our go-to for copyright free music as a Creator having copyright free music is crucial and epidemic is the only place we trust to have the exact type of music or sound effects we're looking for they have a massive library of over 40 000 tracks 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love the work you guys are doing so you were just on Rogan too yeah the second time right yes which is absolutely incredible like that is that is the Hallmark of being basically at this point a very important and impactful person can you walk us through how that invitation went how the experience went and you're also very gracious to give him a bunch of very thoughtful gifts on the on the podcast well to me Joe's the goat you know in the space of if you look at the wall right there the wall of fame and all the names that we have there with Elvis Tupac JFK Marilyn Monroe Frank Sinatra Tiger Woods Kobe Tom Brady Ali Dave Chappelle Cena Michael Jordan M Joe Rogan I think Jose go to what he does the last three years he showed it was more than just entertainment it's enlightenment he's getting people to think he he was I think one of the most if not the most super necessary voice uh the last three years but in regards to how it happened I mean I've been following Joe for a while I'm a fan of following Joe's content and I messaged him a few years ago we were just just complimenting on the work he's doing about a year and a half after that he messaged me says hey Pat I want to do a podcast with you I went out and this time around it was more around me wanting to give him a gift after he opened up his new comedy club and if you've not been to this Comedy Club this was a movie theater before the place is sick it's insane the behind the scenes the rooms the weights set up uh everything has a message and he's got the wall from back in the days the people he bought it from there's a whole story to it there's two different clubs that goes at the same time he performs there I think three times a week two times uh uh on the nights but three times a week and uh this time it was just hey if you're coming to give me the gifts let's do another podcast to get I'd love to and boom it led to the conversation that it did that's fantastic I heard he only has four employees right now running the entire podcast it's not a lot of employees so four or five employees facilities let me tell you the facility is insane you know we we came he gave us a tour to back and Vinnie accidentally steps on the floor where they practice Jiu Jitsu Joe's like what are you doing when he takes his foot off and you see all the artwork just visualize I would say a hundred two hundred pieces of art laying against the wall because he has no more room for wall are you serious yes it's a it's a good fish it's a massive facility full-blown gym he's got a room just purely for archery and then his guys are there you talk to his guys they love working for you absolutely love uh working for him but it's an incredible facility so it's interesting going on different podcasts because I was on yours yesterday and I was shocked at the amount of research and the attention to detail that you put into these podcasts how much goes into that prior great question so it depends so for example for the first I don't know eight years of me doing podcasts I'm the researcher nobody researches for me so I'm the guy that's reading the ball I'm doing this I'm doing that I'm reading the watching the videos taking notes I have a format of how I take notes and whether I start off with facts then I go to topics and I go to questions I want to ask that is the format I like having facts and I like having topics and issues and then I go to questions that I want to ask and then now we have a whole research team that gives us content you know whether if it's if I'm interviewing somebody and it's more of a valuetainment interview it's just more stuff that's related to you and then other items that I may want to bring up to get your opinion on that maybe we haven't heard your comment on yeah there's a lot of preparation I'm sure you saw we now have 74 full-time employees that are working at the entertainment a part of it is with the Consulting from consulting firm is growing uh extremely rapidly right now minute are apt right now you know our app right now we got 70 000 downloads the last couple months with minute where how familiar with minute what it does have you I got a 10 minute pitch and I downloaded it okay so minute is think about uh seven years ago or so lawyer of mine I talked to we had a seven minute call he charges me for 30 minutes and I call him up and I said why do you charge me for 30 minutes we had a seven minute call he says that's what lawyers do I mean it's roll up I said not to 30 minutes he said well you know what do you want me to do about I said you got to charge me for seven minutes says I can't do that I said what are you worth by the minute he says no lawyer charges by the minute I said what if there is a technology where I get to pay for people's time by the minute so that's when we came up with do you have a minute to connect let's connect connect is the app so on minute if I send the DM to somebody if I want to get a question answered by somebody most people don't respond back to DMS about 90 of DMS get unanswered on my neck you're gonna get an answer back because you're paying Graham 200 for a question he responds back you make 80 percent of that my next keeps 20 of it if they want to see a video being responded back from me in a video format answering the question hey Graham you run a YouTube channel with 4 million subscribers a video maybe 400 but if I want to do a 15 minute face time with you you get to pick and choose what you want to charge about a minute 50 bucks a minute you do face time your face is up here their faces down here it's done well so we have a whole team from an act then we have Product Development Division and then we have our Cutters editors shredders we have our production team here we have the folks that are running our Cigar Lounge our buildings the next projects that we're working at about to buy 10 acres to build a campus that we'll be doing our docs movies all that stuff so it's grown I think within a year year and a half we'll be at around 250 employees if our HR Team Speed can catch up we'll be at 120 employees right now I hear Andrew Tate is doing quite well on there Andrew Tate did very well there I want to say their first month they made a hundred thousand dollars on minute oh my gosh yes I think they the 93 000 occur it may be between 90 to 100 000 their money on minute you can go ask questions from them on manectrist and Tate but you can ask questions of Chas palm and Terry can ask questions from bodybuilders can I ask questions from Consultants those who raise money it's a lot of different people yeah and you also recently interviewed Andrew Tate for the second time yes 14 million views in one month which is absolutely astounding I know for that podcast extra amounts of research went into it can you walk us through maybe like the prior three days before that podcast great question so here's what we do when we do big interviews it is extra amount of research that we do you're looking at topics issues questions current events but you're looking at top three five angles you can't be a you know regular person that's asking the same exact questions give me the keys to success or give me the keys so tell me what happened here it has to be angles if your angles aren't unique no one's interested people are interested in unique angles right when I get interviewed on different podcasts I'm like okay here we go again this is another question that's penis that's been asked a million times right when we did the podcast lifetime last time a lot of Clips took off for you guys because you guys did the right job asking questions to get content that maybe hadn't been heard before that's what the audience wants to see right so with when we got to Romania the night before I don't know how many hours it was I would say we sat there at a table for six hours to prep on what angles to take with the interview and when we did the interview we were all going on probably a couple hours of sleep and uh it was done we stayed with them till 12 o'clock one o'clock in the morning but yes you're looking at Angles and I'm not only interviewing him so I interviewed Andrew and right after us with Andrew we went to Tristan without a break so it's boom boom the university seven hours of doing interviews yeah back to back to back but uh yes lots of preparation when what angle did you settle on for the Andrew Tay interview and what other angles were you thinking about so BBC to me Mr Mark with him when they came out trying to do a gotcha interview they look disrespectful they look like clowns to be honest with you and they look like Hypocrites meaning you have a guy who is working for your organization who texted a minor and followed a minor on Twitter at 15 years old the guy ends up becoming a intern for you then you end up hooking up with this 19 year old kid whatever age he was when he did you're married for 27 years with two daughters then he tells the story of what happened with you that's public you step away some are saying that you get together with this boy when he was underage or what happened to it the interview that's done with BBC with this guy and they say so you've had a rough week how are you feeling you know that's the opening question of a guy that followed another man on Twitter a boy 15 years old on Twitter right and what's the first question with Tate are you rape see when you do stuff like that you lose credibility this is why people don't trust mainstream media today back in the days Ted Turner when he started CNN he said news was the talent it was the news that you looked up to today it's flipped it's not the news it's the anchor it's the individual right you used to watch CNN and they would give the news to you you used to watch Walter Cronkite we just got news that our president very unfortunate news today President John F Kennedy has been boom it was just news being given to you right the news what we wanted to get so a lot of these guys have Mr Mark unfortunately unfortunately for BBC CNN MSNBC many of them the market is changing people want long form they want to talk to human beings they want to be asked questions that those guys are thinking about not what you're thinking about what are they thinking about you could ask a question you're thinking about but what do they want at they don't have access to me or they don't have access to Tate they want those questions so if you ask the questions that they're wondering and people are going to sit there and say that's exactly what I've been thinking about this in terms how is it that BBC asked this and then so all these different angles you think about and then you try to be fair to like even yesterday's interview would be vacuumed the town hall that we did opening question was what world economic Forum it's not a friendly question it's a question hey you're tied to World economic Forum what do you think about this hey you're Indian is a part of what you're trying to do to go away from China your relations with India is that kind of like trying to help your Homeland are you vaccinated did you take the vaccine you heard at the end what he said right it was kind of uncomfortable right hey how about how you going to handle this you're 37 years old you're 38 years old you've never been there before how are you going to hire people want to have those questions being asked at the same time why do you think you're doing so well why do you think as a young age you know your you know Twitter account has grown the way that is and your competitors are not why do you think America's file on your content so much we need to kind of give a little bit of both sides even the viewer question about religion I was like I was like Heather right the lady that asked the question yeah very impressive question I knew it uh it knocked vivec back what do you think about his answer though I thought it was great I thought it was great he's a great he's a great speaker of course what do you believe him with his answer do you actually believe him I do I do as well but here's the thing I also I tend to fall for stuff like this you can trust me I'm honest you know like yes about it no it's true it happens time and time again and so with him I'm like this is the guy this is the one I trust yeah so you know it could just be me being naive you know but you know you know what it is as well there's a part of it where he's here last night with us is there shaking hands I said where's your wife at his wife was doing a surgery last night she's a surgeon while he's here he's got two kids the guy's worth a few hundred million dollars started a company raised 2.2 billion it's valued at nine billion dollars today he doesn't need to do this he lives an incredible life but he's still working his wife is still working let me get this straight your wife is still working while you're worth this much money it's more than just money when you're doing something like that so it's not like we're above you we're better than you there was a good feeling about now we're gonna see it's going to be rough competing with everybody else but it was interesting talking to him again the point being you got to ask all the questions that are the good questions as well as the tough questions and then let the audience decide now let me ask you this do you think that's a bit of an ego play because it seems like sometimes when people have a certain amount of money then they go for power and that might be in the form of going to congress senate presidency do you feel like that's maybe a thing that's going on I think what you're doing some could say is an eagle play sure how many more subscribers do you need Graham you got four and a half million Mr Graham right why do you need to get to 10 million I'm running a small YouTube channel out of Arkansas with 2 800 subscribers and I'm happy although before we go into that as you probably noticed one of the things that 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good for society is good for society I'm trying to think at what level does being selfish benefit others if the if the point is to help others at what point is being selfish help so picture somebody who's 100 selfless they do everything for who everybody else right so there's an element of Conformity there's an element of trying to please everybody there's an element of constantly worried about what other people think those types of people don't typically do net positive good for society because the first thing we want you to do is we want you to take care of yourself okay a few things with me I don't mind if you smoke weed I'll shake your hand I don't mind if you smoke cigars I'll shake your hand if you smoke cigarettes I can't deal with it okay when I shake someone's hand to smoke cigarettes I go like this I'm like give me a flip and break I'll go like this too next time I don't like cigarettes right if you don't take care of your body and you smell you can't be around me too much I got a big nose and I can smell everything okay I can smell if you took a shower I can smell if you don't brush your teeth I can smell it and I don't like it I ran a sales team and one of the things happened when you run a sales team you have to have a lot of awkward conversations so when a young guy gets started and you want to sell I would sit there and I would say hey you don't yet have credibility to have beard if you're going to be selling Insurance you got to kind of fix your hair a little bit you got to get your cut on the side a little bit you got to shave if you're going to sit in front of other people asking them to sell their million out of home with you you got to dress up better now you guys are on a YouTube channel you don't care what I think about you there's an element that that's your look you got like the Steve Jobs look but I would sit down I would tell guys and I would say hey Johnny yes do you know you smell you're serious yeah you smell bro and it's not good and about 20 people have brought it up to me and here's what I want to do with you do you want to continue smelling or do you want to do something about it I want to do something about it I don't know if you have a father figure in your life that's having this conversation with you but I'm going to have it with you and we're doing it privately behind closed doors so you don't need to be embarrassed but I'm hoping for the rest of your life no one ever needs to have this conversation with you fair fair let me give you the starter kit here what do you use when you shower at night what soap do you use what shampoo do you use tell me what razor to use can you actually show it to me go on the website and show me what you buy you use that kind of shampoo are you sure how do you wash yourself do you blow your blow dry your body afterwards do you blow dry down here down here down here in your toes because that's where fungus is how do you blow dry what do you do here's what I do okay how do you shave do you shave up do you shave sideways do you shave down what are you doing Pat no one's talking about this kind of stuff I'm 23 years old I totally get it but it's my job I'll do it the first time but it happens second time you got to figure something enough for yourself because sales is not going to work out so here's an option for you with deodorant okay here's the toothpaste here's the toothbrush here's the spray here's a cologne go start working on this this is a soap you can use this is the ax you can use I would give them the starter kit and they would come back because if you're 100 selfless you don't really care about you know taking care of yourself all you care about is well you're hurting everybody else now let's flip the question do you think a person that's 100 selfish is a net positive to society no do you think more than 100 selfless makes you think yeah so what is it think about a person that's 100 selfish what do they typically do make money great that's a positive to society what else does a hundred percent uh selfish do they take care of themselves right they're clean they probably don't donate right that's fine volunteer but the Mohan selfless one probably doesn't make any money because that guy doesn't have any dreams or Vision or goals so when you think about this element and you say do you think vivek's doing it for ego and all this stuff I think you're doing it for ego sure but I don't think it's 100 so the number we found that's reasonable that's a good amount to be that a guy's still driving is 70 30. if 70 of you is driving for your goal your dreams your vision 30 is for him the people around your audience yeah you're a net positive because you're constantly in search of something if somebody is 50 50 they're typically a good advisor because they don't want anything from you you know the only thing they want from you is a little bit of credit to say hey John thank you for that price so that is an element where anybody that runs they're typically around the seven seventy percent selfish thirty percent what would you say you are I think I'm around the 65 35 70 because for me so my wife and I when we have a conversation about vision and I say to her I said babe if you want somebody to be home every night at six o'clock to have dinner I'm not the guy if you want somebody to be in town every single week for the entire year I'm not the guy for you if you want somebody that's going to sit there and say oh my God I'm so sorry I'm this I'm that I'm this I'm not that guy I'm not compromising my vision because that vision is a commitment I have to my father my Heritage my family and my God I'm not compromising that Vision I'm not compromising my values and principles these are things that I'm fighting for if you're okay with that let's roll if you're not let me introduce you to some of my friends that may be in better match for you than me this is when we were dating okay so if I see relationships husband and wife I'll typically talk about this and you know I'll talk to someone I'll say oh my God this guy's a real good talent I like him a lot so let's just say you want to have a good meeting tonight and you leave like Pat I'm on fire we're gonna go do this and let's just say we have a god conversation or we have a health conversation or we have a political conversation and you're like this is fantastic that's a good point and then you go home and your wife says you explain to babe you won't even believe what I just I was over here Vivek was talking and Patrick was saying this and yeah that's a good point that's stupid that doesn't make any sense you know you're not that you're not like them that's not you you don't think so babe no those are just a bunch of egotistical people yeah you know what I thought about that yeah I think you're right babe I love you and you go to sleep versus you go babe I saw this debate and I've said Vivek and Patrick yeah babe that statue that's stupid those are egotistical people what are you talking about babe yeah those are egotistic these are people that only care about themselves I'm sorry babe you care about you take care of yourself I'm glad you do I do I love the fact that they're driven I like being around people that are doing this they inspired me tonight babe you know we want to live a different life baby I don't know what life you want to live this is a life I want to live I'm hoping you're brought in see if you can't have that conversation you don't have a backbone then you're the one that's going to be bitter 5 10 15 20 30 years down the line looking back saying I compromise my vision for this girl and now you're upset at her you're blaming the wife you're seeing your kids and you're saying if you only know what your mom did to me it's not the wife's fault it's your fault because the way you compromise your vision that you have for what you want to do that God put on you you know if there's something you keep thinking about that's a vision that's important to you and if you can't have the backbone to pursue it then it's not a last appointment issue you're not fully committed to what you want to do you can be fickle and people can change your mind constantly I notice God is a topic that comes up frequently with you what role does God have in your life and do you think that everybody needs a relationship with God to some capacity or could some exist without a relationship with God everybody has a god okay my God for from 14 years old to 25 was women they were my God okay it was everything I wanted I couldn't get enough of it I wanted all of them I wanted every ethnicity every background in every place in every Club I wanted them all okay some kids their goddess video games some people their goddess food some people their God is the amount of likes they get on social media everybody has a God so there's no such thing as you look at these people who believe in God they need God they're weak that's what they are no no look at you who your God is your god is porn your God is women your God is money your goddess everybody has so there's no such thing as I don't I have a gobble you don't have a God you have a God as well I said we have a different god so let's set that part aside about who has a God who doesn't have a god for me you know my entire life I had a big uh conflict with the man upstairs because you know when you're living in Iran and your mom and dad have taped the windows because when the explosion of a bomb comes you don't want the window to you just want it to fall and it doesn't hurt the kids and I'm just my bed is right underneath seven eight windows in in Iran street name is hojat and we're right there that's not a good environment to be raised in you're going outside you've seen holes in the ground and the places used to play right across the street you're hearing this whistling sound and your parents get divorced twice in 20 years they get married your sister is born to get divorced then they get remarried then you're born then they get a divorce and the visual that I had as a kid when every night on the fourth floor my dad would walk up at 8 30 and I would see his head first step boom boom I knew my dad is he had run up to the door open it up give him a hug that the last time I I experienced that I was 10 years old boom gone I don't see that head climbing at 8 30 animal when he come up from work it was the best moment of my day that's the last time that happened the only vacation I ever took as a family with my Mom and Dad we went to a city called esfahan and Estefan is like an old city with a lot of different things there's a song by a man named Moen he sings a song called them I'll sit there in my backyard and I'll listen to that song for two hours straight it just he's saying my heart wants to return to esfahan okay my heart wants to return to S1 because my entire family was together it was me my sister my mom and my dad okay so then you go to Germany at a refugee camp for two years there's no father figure you don't know what to do you're experiencing bullying fighting out there you know fighting with afghanis pakistanis Germans you know all these other people from different ethnicities like who are you from Iran you're in our country here right now that's exactly why Germany is being ruined because they're letting too many of you here and maybe they were partly right and why would why are we coming in your Homeland you know we're dealing with our own mess and then eventually we'll make it to the states and I go to the Army and I get I'm like don't even talk to him about God or anything and then eventually I realized with a couple moments a man give me a Bible uh when I was in the Army and he said you need this Bible more than I do his parents gave him that Bible December 24 1974 I have the Bible until today in my office so I don't know man you know I like office I like Rumi these uh famous poets from Iran and Rumi had a poet I'll butcher it but you can kind of see how he says where you know God uses human beings as a flu to sink through which means in a way God talks to you and I through people and then one day A friend of mine who was a tough guy in La we went to school together him and I both had a 1.8 GPA and neither one of us were going to do anything so when we went to college and we're at Glendale Community College me and Armond were the ones that told you you're an idiot if you go to class we would make fun of you we were those friends we'd be like look at these idiots they're going to class what are you going to do going to class man who cares about a college degree stay here let's play spades let's play Hulk stay for another hour and we would influence kids to drop out of their class that was us okay so I go to the Army he does what he does this is the same guy that one time punched a guy in the face with a brass knuckles he punched a guy in the face breaks the guy's jaw was telling the story to you guys he breaks the guy's jaw the guy can't eat he's eating out of a straw for 30 days and one day he tells the story to me the father comes to his house he knocks on the door opens the door the father's looking at him saying I'm not here to do anything to you I'm only here for you to see the pain of a father going through for what you did to my son and the dad is crying he says I don't ever want you to feel the pain I'm I'm feeling right now when I watch my son John I can't talk to my son I'm in pain and you brought that pain to my son he says that day messed me up right guilt all this stuff and it was I go to the Army I come back 24 years old and I go to rafi's place and I said so how are you doing this as well Jesus has changed my life I'm like I'm thinking he's joking with me he says no I'm telling you I said come on man what are you talking about you yeah stop it you're pulling a prank because we were both pranksters big pranksters he said I'm telling you you got to come to Bible study with me so I go to Bible study with them Friday night in uh paznaz with this guy named Mano and would sit there from six o'clock in the morning at night till two o'clock in the morning we're debating and I'm just trying to debate debate debate debate debate anyways eventually I make a decision I become baptized January I think it's 21st of all four and I realized I don't want to live my life alone I'm not alone right now I'm around you guys when you're together you're around each other you're around your girl you're not alone right but you're going to be alone who do you talk to when you're alone I want a relationship with God when I'm alone because if if my vision is Big of what I want to do in my life for me to think I can do it by myself that is so arrogant and it's so much pressure on an individual when things don't go your way sometimes you need to just say look man I'm going to pray like it's up to you but I'm going to work like it's up to me there's a man named Greg that told me this 20 years ago and there's so much truth behind it right God has played an incredible role in my life um I'm I'm a guy that's very honored and grateful for the life that he's given me I look at my kids faces and I tell Dylan I say Dylan do you realize I can't imagine life never meeting you he says what do you mean Daddy I said June July of 2002 I'm at Thomas Mack Center with Lou Holt speaking I'm at that event with my girlfriend sitting to my right and a girl named Jennifer sitting to my uh my left is my girlfriend a girl sitting to my right a girl named Jennifer we're all the way in the back Lewis is speaking I said if I don't go to that event that day the girl on my left ends up becoming an ex the girl on my right five and a half years later when we wrote single becomes my girlfriend she's your mother I would have never met you I cannot imagine life never meeting you Dylan never meeting Patrick Tico never meeting Sena or never meeting Brooklyn if that meeting and appointment never happens I'm devastated that meeting is scheduled by the man upstairs so for me uh if your vision's big if you want to do something massive with your life you almost need Faith but if you don't believe in a god trust me you have a God you just don't know what it is yet now I'm curious because I've heard a lot of different answers to this and I want to know your opinion on this sure but why does God allow pain and suffering and evil to exist in this world you know it's a good question you ask it's a question you know I ask for a big part of my life with the things that I saw that's the Free Will part man it's our choice he doesn't make us do anything he leaves it to you and I on what we do and how we live our lives if God was a micromanager that would be a different story he's not he's like look here's what you've been given with here's the talents we're giving you here's the life go do good with it and find a way to be better to my guys my people my kids and then you get to choose to make bad decisions okay he doesn't now if you go back and you know some can say well you know that's When sin happened Adam Eve Apple that's when we started sending prior to that we were this we were that great we have a choice to make good decisions and bad decisions that's not going away anytime soon it's on us it's not him it's us doing it so what I heard also I love that answer but what I heard also that I really liked is that if he showed himself every single time evil occurred and let's say like cancer was given to a child or something like that then it wouldn't be Faith anymore it would just be fact it would be what is and the power about belief is that it's faith and you need to be able to believe in something that is in fact because like I said it would just be what is let me ask you a question was your father in your life growing up as a kid he was okay how old were you the first time you got bullied I wasn't really bullied that much when I was did you ever get into a fist fight no never I was a pacifist I would always like run away shy away from that did you ever get bullied yes how old were you the first time you got bullied kindergarten preschool people call me graham cracker graham crackers oh well I would get both yeah I would get bullied like that sure people because I'm Jack and my last name Selby so they abbreviate jackass so so how often did your dad go and beat those guys up never why not why would you let that happen to a son because they're minors I never told my parents but let me ask you another question when you grow up did a girl break your heart when you were 18 years old I had my heart broken a little bit okay did your mom go and slap her in the face and say how dare you break my son now why wouldn't she do that how dare she break your heart why would a mother let their son's heart be broken what kind of a mother do you have you know is that a good mother of course it's a good mother you have to go through it okay you got to go through it and pay the price have you done any wrongdoings you ever got caught stealing you ever got caught cheating on tests you ever got caught doing something I was wrong you ever got suspended you ever got referrals you ever gone to you know something you shouldn't have done yeah and it hurts your parents you know one day my son um is uh in in soccer practice this is my oldest and he calls my wife calls and says babe they just kicked him out of the camp so what do you mean babe they kicked them out of the camp [Music] so what are you talking about babe why would they kick him out of the camp he knocked the kid out I said what do you mean he knocked the kid out in front of the coach he punched him the kid fell he knocked him out they said he can't come back here anymore so when I hear my son in the back screaming screaming dad you know I'm not afraid of the truth you call me honest Tico you say I'm like honest ape I'm not afraid of the truth I said what happened he punched me first is it Tico I'm telling you he punched me first I said come on I said put the phone on you in his face and put the phone on his head I said I'll go fight for you but you better be telling me the truth I'm telling you the truth and you see the tears coming down so no problem all good I call the owners I said hey I heard you guys kick my son out we did he punch a kid in the uh and he knocked him out and parents were right there and we we can't go back we can't have that kind of behavior I said you guys have cameras there we do I want you to go watch the camera and see who hit who first okay how soon can you get back to me give us an hour in practice sense no problem two hours nobody calls three hours they call me how you doing good so what happened your son is right he got punched first and he reacted and he knocked him out we've asked the other kid to be gone for a week your son is welcome to come back but I personally wanted to call you to apologize I said you know to apologize to me I don't care you didn't offend me you need to apologize to my son I'm gonna bring him in and I need you to have a conversation with him I take I take him to practice his mom typically takes him I take him to practice I said go ahead the guy coaches a Venezuelan phenomenal classy guy gets on his and he says son I just want to tell you we messed up you were in the right we were in the wrong okay and he goes in and he plays this game and he does his practice and all this stuff it's a great practice that he has but you can tell like somebody had his back right now in life sometimes when you're right and somebody does something to you it may take five years till you get your Redemption 10 years 15 years till you get your Redemption but these are the types of moments where you know at times we have to go through our mess at times God's going to use somebody to come and defend you and at times No One's Gonna show up sometimes you're gonna like you're like I never told my parents sometimes you know if you're not praying talking to God he doesn't know who to send you ain't praying sometimes you just gotta the best way I started praying is the final I just my first prayer was like this at 18 years old I said God I don't believe you exist I think it's fake I think it's for people that are weak but I'm going to pray and if you're out to great I'll see what happened here with the prayer if not I'm just going to talk to you that's how my prayers were for three years I prayed like that so the exercising of praying if somebody's watching this you're doing it yourself you don't have to tell people you're praying test it and see what happens go do that for about three six months see what happens and then test it for yourself if it doesn't happen it is what it is but at least take the first step to start praying to a god you don't believe exist and see if he responds now I'm curious in your son's case going back to that fight I was always taught that if someone were to hit you you don't hit back and you should walk away go tell a teacher or something like that how do you balance that and standing up for yourself and punching back harder if you get punched first those are the standards you're gonna have to choose when you have a kid but to me think about the profile of a bully what is the profile of a bully the profile of a bully is he finds targets and what does a bully theme weak targets targets that he's not afraid of targets that back down targets that don't come back at you right do you watch UFC at all not really do you like boxing at all I like watching and I don't typically though no no do you watch any UFC any of that yeah casually watch it what do you think about what do you think about fighting not for me but I appreciate the sport does it entertain you at all or no it does it does entertain you do you know 90 of these guys when they started fighting why they started fighting they got bullying they got bullied and look where they are now so I mean you know there's an element of that where if somebody comes and Bullies you once and you don't do anything Second Time Around third time around fourth time around now you have a reputation you know what the reputation is you can bully them I remember when I started my own insurance company September 23rd of 09 a month later I get sued 400 page lawsuit comes to me okay from a 400 billion dollar company massive company and they sue me and they sue five other people which means we have to represent five pieces like they sue me only we'll have to get illegal for me they want to make sure everybody depletes their savings and they skip scare the crap out of everybody and all the insurance companies didn't want to give me contracts that they're like Patrick's got a big lawsuit he's going to go out of business at that time I could have either sat there and taken it from the bully or I had to make sure they also knew where we stood we had multiple conversations the moment they realized where we stood and we were not going to take clients we were not going to defame and start saying this and this and that and you know they're trashing them and all that other stuff nope I'm a I'm a guy that was going to wait to see what you say about me then I'm going to come at you hard but if you don't say anything about me I'm not going to say anything bad about you at all we're good to go we move on so he finally said look man if you don't say anything we won't say anything no problem good to go so we go We Roll I don't at all talk about the company I don't at all trash nothing if you go ask any of our sales guys did Pat ever train on trashing other insurance company they'll tell you Pat's never trained on that never got 45 000 agents Nationwide then one day I get a letter from the CEO of this company cease and this letter there was an image going around on Facebook that a guy created named Tony and he was comparing our comp to them I don't like doing stuff like that but he did this and then it went viral and the CEO sends me a letter and it's comparing our company says well you know we just want to let you know we paid this much commission last year this much is this much that and you need to have your designers not put this out there and I'm like okay no problem comes to my house so now I'm getting ready to send a response back to him with a letter to his home office then all of a sudden I noticed 50 100 people post that letter on social media from their company and these are all leaders so I noticed the letter wasn't just sent to me he sent it to me and to all their vice presidents to say we are not back in Donna we're gonna bully this guy no problem now I have to react at 2 30 in the morning I react with a letter I write open letter Facebook post that you gotta go read okay and I post the image and I say first of all I want to say whoever created this image I want to thank them because it took us seven years to have a meeting together I've received many different love letters in my life but yours is one of my favorite love letters of all time I thought this was only going to me but since you chose to send this to every other leader in your company I figured it was better for me to write an open letter to you and I went through the whole thing I said I notice you golf three four five times a week at these two different country clubs I noticed what your work is I notice what you're doing as a person who's a Founder we work at a different level I've noticed your company got started in such and such year the founder got their insurance license in 1977 I was born in 1978. I wish I could sell insurance as an infant but I couldn't I got out of the army and this and this sometime and I put that out there that goes viral one guy he knows who is and I know who you are creates a burner account and starts acting like his name is this girl's name and he accidentally switches again his name post and then he deletes it so we know exactly who this guy was he got caught it was so embarrassing and beautiful at the same time but you know what happened in that moment our company after that post grew 75 percent that year because everybody in the company realized you can't bully us we will stand up there's different ways to stand up but if my kid there's a kid in school that's bullying my kid if my kid's being bullied First Step you tell them hey don't do it second step you tell a teacher if he continues you've been instructed by your dad to use your abilities of jujitsu to show him don't do this again and make sure you do when there's 20 people around because there are 20 people will be your publicist they're going to go tell everybody and you will not be fighting while you're at the school so there's these elements where you have to stand up if you don't the bully is going to keep showing up I love the theme of like being a powerful dad and teaching your son powerful values I know it was in an interview that you did recently you were talking about how wealth goes away after a few generations and how you actually had a team that was studying Vanderbilt and a bunch of other generationally wealthy people yeah to make sure that this doesn't happen with your family what did you find out from these studies and what strategy are you going to employ to teach the right things in your children to make sure that the wealth stays yeah you know this whole thing got started when I interviewed this guy I keep forgetting his name so this guy his job is to deal with families that are worth a hundred million dollars and higher to make sure their kids turn out well that's his job think about what an interesting job that is and he's in Seattle why is that important Amazon Microsoft a lot of billionaires a lot of Hector millionaires definitely a lot of deca millionaires right and I said what was the common theme you realized with when you when you got got there to help the families what was it Patrick 99 of the time it's too late they call me once their kid is already a drug addict they call me once their kid is already a alcoholic they call me after they already got their kids three Lamborghinis they already gave them you know flying all over the place on a private jet it's done there's nothing you can do about it at that time 20 years ago I read a book called Ultimate gift I don't know if you've ever read the book ultimate Guild by Jim Stovall who I believe is blind and deaf he wrote this book ultimately give second 100 pages I read it I bought a thousand copies I sold it to all my guys I said you guys all got to read it this is the book of the month the story is about a guy who moves to Texas works for this guy who when he dies the guy leaves them the land and this guy I think his name is Rex in the book or rent something like that the land that he gives to this employee of his ends up being a land filled with oil so he strikes oil so he becomes a billionaire and when this guy becomes a billionaire he's got massive accounts companies oil thousands of employees beautiful big house properties all over the place and then he realizes he spoiled everybody he spoiled his wife his kids everyone his best friend is his lawyer of 40 years so he sits with his lawyer and he says look I want to do a couple things he says what's that I want to make a video that I want you to play the day I die when everybody shows up to get their inheritance and I want you to play that video for them so can we shoot that video together he says great what do you think I should say in the video they make a list spray and the old video starts right he's talking to them in the video he says if I ever play this video it's because I'm dead then he creates 12 other videos so anyways let me first tell you what the first video is the day comes when he dies family shows up his sons his wife with two young men and you know all these guys are showing up I think his daughter with two young men and you know all these guys are gonna it's like oh they're smiling all this hey hey and they're talking to the Lord because the Lord is the guy he trusted the most and the lawyer knew everyone's drug addict you know habits everything plays the video hi if you're watching this video it's because I'm dead let me tell you what this is all about today you're here you're happy you're probably smiling because you're gonna get your inheritance this is a big day for you you see them they kind of feel like uncomfortable but they're smiling and he says to you my such and such daughter or son I'm Gonna Leave You my 600 million dollar account that I have with you know my investments however you're going to live off the interest that money is not for you my advisor makes all the decisions Financial you don't get to tell them anything what to do the money is hopefully going to go to your grandkids if they behave and if you can show that you can manage this money well to my other son I'm gonna give my real estate portfolio whatever half a billion dollars but guess what the cleaners have more say about the house than you do the property manager has more say than you do it's kind of going through that and he says you're going to get this this the company but you don't get to run the company my board runs the company you're not even the chairman of the board it's just the shares and all of this is written with the lawyers and they're going through everybody's pissed off walking up pissed off walking I'm pissed off walking out and he says to my nephew I don't have anything to give you well one thing you're not going to get a car you're not going to get a house you're not going to get stocks you're the only one here that I haven't spoiled you're the only one that has a chance at life what I have for you is The Ultimate Gift The Ultimate Gift is going to take 12 months for you to realize what it is I have 12 videos I've created just for you every Tuesday if you choose to find out what the Ultimate Gift is you come in to my lawyer my best friend's office he plays one video you watch the video then you have 30 days of what you need to do 12 months later you get the Ultimate gift and you see the nephew is like all upset you know pissed off he says you're probably not happy right now and I understand and you're probably going to walk at it to see that he's walking out he says however son I just want to tell you you have a shot I live in a fulfilling life if you choose to come back on Tuesday to find out the Ultimate gift that book motivated me I was 25 years old when I read this book 24 years old when I read this book so this thought I've been thinking about for a while you know and so when you think about some of these families that did it right they spoiled their kids they weren't there for their kids they didn't manage their kids they bought their kids love with gifts you know it's like I don't buy gifts for my kids if you ask my wife how many gifts I bought for my kids I'm not a guy that buys gifts for my kids I'll say things like hey Daddy can we get that Lego that Lego is 10 bucks hey Daddy can we get that video again that video game is 20 bucks hey Daddy can we go buy the new FIFA you finish Atlas Shrug you'll get it hey Daddy I want to get a right now uh my uh youngest son picked up Fountainhead by himself he's reading he's on page 250 or something he knows if they finish Fountainhead and a few other things this guy's been working on this for two years they're about to get their tree house but the Treehouse they've been asking for four years it's been four years till they get their tree house what is the Treehouse if I buy 10 grand 20 grand 50 Grand it's not a lot of money I don't have a problem with that part but I want them to earn it everything for me is with them busting their asses my son's schedule every day after he gets off school three to four he swims four to five is soccer five to six is Jiu Jitsu six to seven is baseball by the time he comes home he asked me a question the other night he says Daddy do I have a busy schedule or is this a normal schedule for all kids I said that's very normal this is because when I talk to my friends they don't have my schedule I said they don't want to tell you the truth everybody has this kind of a schedule I said but listen here's what I will tell you so what's that you're a bit David I don't care what the Joneses schedule is I don't care what the Jackson schedule is this is the big David's schedule okay and this is the schedule you're going to go on but Daddy loves you I'm here for you we're going to celebrate victories we're going to do this we're going to do that I think it has to be something you think about but even with parenting you can do everything right and the kid can still screw up you can do everything right they still have the choice to make they can still hook up with whoever they want to they can still choose to have sex without a kind of with a girl they met at a club and get that girl all of these things are still possible they can still be tempted on one day they're pissed off at their daddy and they walk away and say you're just too much my girlfriend is right you are a capitalist all you care about is money that's your God you don't love us you could buy me this car you could buy me the house like the other person is doing but you are so cheap because all you care about is your money I know that moment is coming I know this coming but I'm good with it and I'm going to Stand My Ground because I'm banking by 25 30 if they get through that ugly phase of hating that the three phases you got to go through with your father you idolize you demonize you humanize I'm in the idolized face right now the demonized face comes next that's not gonna be pretty for me but I have to be stronger enough of a leader to be able to handle next phase so it's a tough job but you never know what's going to happen as long as you prepare early you got to fight you let them watch TV go on the internet social media how do you control that or do you how everything is structured my kids so don't have a phone all their phone all their friends have phones they don't have phones what are the ages of your kids just 11972 okay um in our house when you turn six years old you have to read 20 pages every day okay and the books there's steps on what you go through next and then when you have to read a serious books like you know whatever that was something of fire or you know hunger not a Hunger Games there's a couple of these books like uh Harry Potter or you know some of these serious things that you need to go through for your imagination to kind of see the different stuff that's out there and then you're going to read some real books when you're nine years old a thousand page type of books to kind of go through it but video games there's no iPad throughout the week zero iPad throughout the week Saturday Sundays if you have a c in your class there is no iPad at all ever zero if you have one C you get no iPad not on Saturdays not on Sundays nothing so my son one of them has a c guess what there is no iPad for him however Saturday Sunday you wake up this morning my daughter woke up at seven o'clock she read her book King Daddy I read the book what'd you learn about it here's what I learned about the founding fathers I learned that this I learned that this and I learned that this President is this seven-year-old daughter I said great babe you can go play iPad for an hour okay because she's made up all her assignments for the week when it comes down to uh TV TV if you haven't read you can't watch TV same thing on the weekends I pick movies return on we take turns on movies and all that stuff on what they can do and that's kind of what we do with it now let me go to the seaside I need leverage to get my kids to get smarter and read the content and study the material that I want them to read I'm watching my son he hasn't played iPad for three months and I'm like you're wasting an opportunity because he doesn't have a desire to learn he's just waiting for the C to become a b so he can play iPad so we got to figure something out that's here's what we're gonna do for every documentary you watch that I choose in our documentary you'll get 30 minutes on the weekends and this is during summer season so guess what you watch 40 documentaries you got some hours but if you watch three documentaries this week you got an hour and a half over the weekend so my sons have watched the entire man in the arena Captain the Last Dance Pele all these documentaries you know the plane that went missing JFK assassination all of this stuff for their brain to be vibrating at what happened here what do you think happened here what do you think happened there but that's the system we've created you have to exercise you have to take care of your body but that's the system how do you balance between being a free thinker an entrepreneur who forges their own path or having a very structured outline because For Me growing up my parents were very much you could do what you want to do and we're not going to get in the way of that if you decide that you just wanna do nothing all weekend you could do that if you decide you want to be productive you could do that and I feel like that sort of Freedom allowed me as an adult to do what I thought was best in the moment even if it's not structured or what everyone else is doing how do you balance the two yeah that's that's good for you uh kudos to you for doing that that doesn't work out most of the time with a lot of people uh as an outlier as a exception to the rule that's great now think about this give me one system that produced a lot of great leaders without any structure give me any system hear me out what I say like if you if you're going to a place where they produce leaders right by the way this thing is structured here just so you know everything is elon's got the whole system on what he's doing he runs a show yeah okay last night for things not nothing happened I didn't even think about AV last night and typically when I'm doing stuff I'm thinking about why don't I think about AV because things were scored away with him he's running the show he's telling people what to do their systems here when we came in to walk through the preparation the questions their systems if you played under John Wooden guess what they're systems Bill Walton comes in as a hippie with a beard and he says hey I'm not shaving my beard for nobody John Woon says you don't have to but I don't have to play you really you wouldn't play me I'm the number one Prospect in the world you ain't gonna play you can keep your beard hippie goes back to practice with everybody else Bill Walton gets on the bike goes cuts his hair his beard comes back to practice he starts playing what did John wouldn't do to Bill he gave him high expectation high standards Bill Belichick High expectation high standards military High expectation high standards Jack Welch High expectation high standards fire the bottom thirty percent your employees every year Elon Musk you don't want to be at Twitter 50 fired 37.50 go home you still don't want to be at Twitter the other 1250 quid as well now we got about 2200 employees at the at the test at Twitter almost anywhere you go where you see a person coming out with the level of discipline that others don't have there was a person there with high standard High expectation Kobe Bryant when did LeBron become the Beast that he is most people are like well LeBron James LeBron went to the Olympics and they recruited Kobe to go to the Olympics go study Lebron after he went to the Olympics with Kobe because he noticed Kobe was a maniacal about his training nobody ever had the standards of Kobe including Michael Michael had better god-given ability but Michael wanted to party and do all the other stuff Kobe was a maniacal everybody who ever played with Kobe realized this guy's a monster Alan Iverson one of my favorite players to watch he tells a story one time he says hey one time I'm playing against the Lakers let's go to dinner we go to dinner and then Coach like what are you doing now so I'm gonna go to the club you want to roses now I'll take you he goes drops him off at the club Kobe does he says where are you going he said I got to go back to the gym to practice Kobe's got five championships hey guys got zero okay so yes a person like you can go out there and do what they're doing but structure increases the chances but I'm going to say this final thing now turn it back over to use the following don't assume our house everything is structured everything is not structured don't think it's a setup where hey you better do this you better do that you better do this you better do that they're free to do a lot of things it's a system that you have on how you score points YouTube doesn't tell you what to do YouTube will tell if you create good content good SEO good lighting good camera good this good audio and you keep doing it consistently we're going to reward you our family is the same way we're the ultimate capitalism family you do this you earn this you do this you earn that you don't you don't that's capitalism you don't have to do it you don't have to watch the documentary you don't have to read the book but you also don't have to play iPad so there is that element of capitalism in the house where you got to earn or else you don't get I'm curious what books do you recommend that every parent have their child read some of the books I have my kids have read you know my oldest has probably read 500 who HQ books I was interested in buying who HQ the brand which is owned by penguin they won't sell it but I I I watched some of the stuff they add in who HQ which is politically motivated and there's other competitors to who HQ I was going to buy another book brand uh that was out there I will tell you I like my kids to study individuals so studying individuals they got to study the founding fathers they got to study why America is the greatest country in the world they got to study the musks of the world the Teslas of the world the Franklins of the world the um Lincolns of the world I want them to study great leaders on what happened there okay with them great presidents I want them to study John F Kennedy Reagan go study those guys I'll tell you what happened the other day there's a frame in my office I don't know if you guys went into my office there's a book that's on the wall and they send me the book and it's about a guy named Thomas Seoul I don't know if you know who Thomas soul is Thomas Sol is uh probably one of the smartest men we have in America today he's 91 years old uh 91 92 93 years old came up with Milton Friedman I don't know if you guys know Milton Friedman is Milton Friedman is the maybe the greatest Economist we've ever had outside of Adam Smith and all these other guys Milton Friedman was if you want to really get into the space go watch Milton Friedman with Phil Donahue it's 43 minutes and just watch that for yourself and you'll be fast I think he's wearing a yellow coat or a yellow shirt incredible if you go there and then you watch Thomas Soul debate just type in Thomas sold debate it's an older Thomas sold with glasses he's debating a lady you're going to the rabbit hole and watching this stuff forever my kid book comes in he reads the Thomas Soul book okay I come home he says Daddy what are we doing I said what do you mean what are we doing I have to go make money so you have to go make money yeah I gotta go make money I don't know how I'm gonna go make money I'm gonna go and knock on the doors here in the people in the neighborhood and I'm gonna see how I can make money with them so what are you talking about he says no I got to go as a capitalist I gotta go make money but I can't take credit from I've never told him to go out there and find a way to make your own money you read this book so he goes out comes back nothing happens sweating it's 100 degrees outside next day his brother joins him and his sister joins him so it's him 11 9 7 they're out and an hour later somebody calls us hey are these your kids yes they're out here knocking on doors saying they want to find a way to make money do you mind if I teach them how to walk my dog because I need somebody to walk my dogs I said no problem It's a 65 year old lady so they walk the dogs they come back sweat totally sweaty messed up and they come back and they say um yeah Daddy this lady gave us twenty dollars I said she gave me twenty dollars yeah I told him whatever you make I'm gonna match it so if you make 20 you get 40. I said so what do we want to do with this twenty dollars I said who's the CEO of the company he said well that's me my oldest I said so what what amount of this 40 you want to pay yourself he says I'm gonna pay myself you know 20 or whatever okay I said what amount you want to pay the second best employee he says no Dylan worked really hard I'm going to pay him 15 or whatever the number and Senator came and she was Supporting Cast and she was sweet so we're gonna give her five dollars so she's all happy we're doing a video by the way it's a great video I take the twenty dollars the first one and I frame it in my office I take a picture of them walking the dogs into my office and I put the book the first book that they read that caused them influenced them to become capitalists so for me it's less about what brand book they read it's who they read if your kid reads Thomas Soul oh my God if your kid reads innovators creators founding fathers of America what these guys went through to create the greatest country in the world that's going to inspire them in weird ways these guys have written more books than I read the amount of books my oldest son has read I did not read until I was 28 years old this guy's read at 11 years old imagine the imagination with this kid on how you know how he's wired so I think it's more names and individuals than it is like certain brands how do you know someone is ready to have kids yeah it's a good question so to me I think the wrong people are having too many kids and the right people are not having enough kids I think the the wrong people are Reckless when it comes kids they don't think about it a lot they're like hey government's going to pay me money or hey you want to have unprotected said oh I'm pregnant oh versus the right people who overthink it guys like you it's like well you know if we have a kid it's going to cost us around 280 000 between 0 to 18 and if we want to have three that's about a million dollars and if we're going to put them in our private school for us it's probably not going to be 280 it's probably more like 600 000 so babe if we're going to have this at 12 interest on this fund with American Funds Investment Company act you're overthinking it right where a guy like you know how many kids you need to have do you know how many kids you need to have you need to have five kids I was about to say one or two no no no see a guy like you yeah I want to see a guy like you have five kids because I know you're gonna if they're gonna be like you we need more use in the world but if you have one kid you're screwing up the ratios think about what I'm saying to you the rate of the people who have money who are resources you're gentle just looking at your energy you're an incredible father for a girl your girl's gonna love you she's gonna be all over you you're going to be like her hero for the rest of her life right but one kid two kids oh man we gotta go back to having four five my wife and I and if we were I I I'd have 20 kids my wife would be pregnant every year and she'd have a three month vacation every year of not being pregnant and then you you got your vacation babe you're done boom next one here next one here we'd be going 20 20 years straight but no I think the right people need to have more kids and they're overthinking having kids and the wrong people are under thinking having kids so if we can get those ratios down properly then uh Society will be in a better place so on the the topic of the ESG ratings I know that you said that when you sold your company you had a really high rating now did you do that methodically what was your rating at the end what is a typically good rating and did you try to raise your rating before you sold the company we should explain what that is if you wouldn't mind going into that yeah so the ESG they score your company on environmental social governance so how much are you helping out with the environment social like how many women do you have on your board how many gays do you have on your board how many people from colored people all this stuff that's the hey do you want that score to be there and then how much back are you given to environment just to tell you how pathetic this ESG score is is that a government agency no not at all no private it's a private agency funded by some interesting people there's an organization out there called open Society Foundation started by Soros whom he gave 32 billion dollars to by the way 32 billion dollars you can Google this to see how much money he's given to open Society Foundation since I think 1994 the number is 32 billion dollars so ESG you get the score here's how pathetic yes she is the score which company do you think has done more for the environment in America Philip Morris or Tesla probably probably Tesla okay Tesla has a much lower ESG score than Philip Morris Philip Morris has a plus rating what a great environmental social governance company out there Philip Morris great job guys no it's because Elon Musk thinks the snesg stands for satanic and he doesn't want to abide to the scoring system that these Soros and Finks and some of these guys in the world are doing that Larry Fink is like I feel ashamed I think the word ESG is being weaponized you do not feel ashamed you know exactly what you're doing you're running a company with 10 trillion dollars of assets under management you're crushing the EFT game you're of course you're you're the one that's managing other people's money but at the same time you're influencing where that money goes to you know it's not like you're they're doing it you tell them where the money is going into yes you need some approval but you get to do the influence so for me the ESG side that's a little bit concerning is they are the largest shareholder themselves Like Larry finkus BlackRock State Street and Vanguard these three companies are the largest shareholders of 88 of s p 500 companies let me say that one more time you got 500 companies S P 500 88 of those companies their largest shareholder of those companies is either State Street Vanguard or BlackRock okay so whose phone call do you think you have to pick up when they call you BlackRock State Street and Vanguard who do you fear if you're to see all those companies State Street Vanguard BlackRock you better answer those calls who are you going to hire you're gonna have to hire whoever they're going to want should hire because you want the high score so now let's go to other Industries Department of Defense Raytheon General Dynamics boink Northrop Grumman three out of the four top shareholders in almost every one of those companies guess which companies they are State Street Vanguard BlackRock so the commander-in-chief is not who we think it is it's the CEO of BlackRock Vanguard State Street it's people like Larry Fink and George Soros they have influence we've always been like oh my god look how rich is it is it good for a guy like Elon Musk to be as rich as he is Elon Musk is nothing compared to what these guys are doing collectively together they have got I don't know how many people that have signed off to the numbers here I think it's 60 something like that or 51 people that have signed off to this would be part of the CSG Community they have access to 66 trillion dollars of assets under management you know how much total money there is in the world circulating you know the total money it's around 430 trillion dollars 440 trillion dollars they they control 66 trillion dollars of the entire world's wealth when I say control I mean if influencing is what they can do so when you're seeing some of these companies making the kind of decisions that they're making you're asking yourself why would they do such a thing that is so stupid you know right now if you wanted to go be nominated for an Oscars I don't know if you guys know the data with the nominating for Oscars what percentage of your employees need to be part of a lgbtq community what percentage of your employees actors editors Cutters the percentage needs to be from Native Americans disability LGBT black if you don't you cannot be nominated which means almost every single movie in the history of oscars that won an Oscar would have never won with today's guidelines that's how pathetic this is getting right now with the direction they're going to influence what you're going to be doing with whatever company or project you're running now you haven't said this explicitly but I can kind of read between the lines if your theory on all of this turns out to be true is this stuff that you're nervous to be saying online no I'm not nervous to be saying online we know what happened to other people that potentially had knowledge all I'm saying to you is the follow-up everything I'm saying to you you need to go to your own due diligence type in 88 S P 500 BlackRock Vanguard State Street are you okay with that that's what you got to ask yourself for example there's not a single other phone I want in an iPhone I've had an iPhone since 2008 okay I've had an iPhone since 2008. I love an iPhone I love the iPhone okay if I look at what a Droid looks like in an iPhone and I use a Droid I'm always going to come back to an iPhone okay if your Droid what's the annoying thing about an iPhone person texting a Droid person green green when you're on a flight I can't talk to you or if I'm creating a group text and you're a Droid person you screw the whole thing up do you know I often think about not adding the Droid person in the group text I'm sending because you're annoying me I can't communicate with you so watch this there are now 58 of market share is this the Monopoly law in America is 50 percent we don't have another phone company that's competing with these guys I was a die-hard Nextel person I love the next step the Nextel Blackberry that they had was phenomenal you know the old next though you guys are too young to remember but there was an EXO Blackberry we need somebody to want to compete with this we need others to want to compete with this so if it doesn't concern you don't do it but if you have three companies that have influence in 50 different industries that ought to be something we should be concerned about okay because they're going to be around for a while the president's going to come in one term two term eight years there's not a lot they can be doing but these guys are going to be around for decades but for your own personal safety you're not nervous about saying any of these things intentionally I'm not I'm not uh not for my personal safety at all who do you think is the most powerful man on the planet some of those names I gave I don't think it's the president I think president is one of them I think the people that run any of the virtual governments they're for sure one of the most powerful men on the planet uh Facebook Zuck is on that list you know Elon is now on that list uh I think the Google guys are more low-key but they're also on that list on what influence they have Bezos is on that list with the control that he has but it's the Finks it's the Sorrows his son Alex that's going to take over and then next comes some of these guys that are the media Moguls you know Rupert Murdoch is still on that list it used to be Ted Turner but Ted Turner is not running CNN anymore when they sold time when they screwed him over he should have kept running that organization that man would have been the most powerful man in America if not a top five power powerful man in America but uh yeah these are some of the names you have to be really really careful with and by the way think about how most people learn what do you think most people learn about Oppenheimer how do you think most people for the first time ever learned about Oppenheimer you think they read a book on it you think they went and studied Oppenheimer you think pre the movie coming out if you ask the average person who's Oppenheimer they're like man is that a beer from Germany what is this is no no it's not a beer it's a guy that it's the nuclear bomb and Einstein no way yeah most people learn about Oppenheimer through what a movie right most people learn about Howard Hughes through what movie most people learn about you know a lot of these stories of people through movies so you gotta also put a lot of influence of these people that are making the movies and how they're feeding the messaging and persuading the younger generation that's too lazy to go read their own books because they're too much on Tick Tock and Instagram so universities for people after they're done with high school and college it's movies so media's got a lot of influence uh those whoever's telling the story has got a lot of influence over people so you gotta also give some kind of power to the people that are telling the stories couldn't that also be social media and what they decide to push and how their algorithms rank virtual governments is what I said you know the social virtual government to me is Zuck Facebook you know Twitter all those guys they control the algorithms you know RFK just sued Google yesterday and YouTube for censor again so Kennedy right now who's running for office he's saying he's being silenced they're taking his interviews down etc etc so no question about it they're also some of the most powerful people kind of a random question but do you think that you need to be a U.S born citizen to run for president see I actually don't know if I agree with that entirely because I think if we're trying if we're basing it off of Merit and what you can do for this country limiting the pool of people from people like Elon Musk from people like you I don't think it's a productive thing if you ask me to question and somebody says you know for example I went to a restaurant in Beverly Hills it's called Crustaceans my favorite restaurant in in Beverly Hills that I would go to Crustaceans has two kitchens okay one of the kitchens you have to be part of the on family to go in that kitchen okay so they could hire you and there's that secret kitchen you cannot get into because they make this garlic noodles that you think they spiced it with every single addictive drug in the world because when you eat these noodles oh my God it's unbelievable you've got to go you gotta go there okay and now they have these cigar uh thing that they make that you eat with smoke comes out and they got these crab legs that they make and anyways when you go there you'll walk in and say what was this all about insane beautiful food I respect a brand that says the recipe that's been passed on by generation is only if you're an aunt you can't come in here and steal our recipe and go do it elsewhere I salute it I respect it everybody else that works here you go in the other kitchen is it a form of discrimination a hundred percent you are discriminating so America can say Hey you can only come in the kitchen here and make decisions for America at the highest level president if you're part of the on family if you're not we discriminate against other people that are born here it is an element of discrimination that is a discriminatory policy that they have in place but I fully understand it now if they wanted to kind of amend it or change it and you know you've been here for 35 years and you know now you can run you know you you've had to serve you've had to you know pay on a certain amount of taxes if you have to create jobs or you certain ways you had to go get the degrees from this this that or certain ways to get in there that you've contributed to society you've been a net positive to society to America in ways others haven't been then maybe you get the car to be able to run but the concern for me is the following there are people who love America way more immigrants who love America way more than those who are born here you know a person who lost a father young who sits with their best friend who's bitching about his father because he discipline him too much the friend says can you please stop bitching about your dad that's challenging you who's alive I wish my dad was alive to discipline me stop complaining oh my God you're such a crybaby I'm sick of your of complaining about your dad right and then that kid walks up and saying man I'm so glad my dad is alive what a perspective right there's an element to it there's too many Americans that are bitching about their dad that's alive where other countries wish your founding fathers cared about their country as much as they did they wish they wish and these Americans are sinner well I think I'm entitled to this I think I'm entitled to this I'm entitled to this you're a Founder you've ran a company before you know what it is when you work your ass off for that money and you make that money and as a Founder what do you do if I'm going to buy 20 cases of this water for my office and they're going to say well it's uh 628 uh you know what here 628 but if it's you spending that money you're gonna be like wait a minute what does Costco sell it for 542 let's buy from Costco you'll go save that 80 as a Founder but one of your employees going to be like just pay the 628 who cares right the founders mentality wants to save the 80 you know what America is today America is today filled with a bunch of spoiled brands who are spending daddy's money that they never made how much debt do we have right now is it 32 yeah 32 trillion dollars why do we have 32 trillion dollars because the kids the grandkids the great great grandkids are using Daddy's Money not caring at all who worked their asses off prior to them to make this money make it the number one country in the world so you have some good habits but no yeah pay those guys this much ah send 70 billion to Ukraine even though Russia's annual budget is 65 billion dollars who cares send it to them yeah send this thing over here I think uh a little bit of people from America would be very interesting if Elon Musk was a president you know what's interesting is that Jack mentioned earlier how wealth is usually squandered in three generations and couldn't we say now that like Jack and I are almost that third generation of America and we're somewhat squandering it in a sense that's what you're that's a good point yeah that's exactly the point so for me I think if if uh you know one would wonder like yesterday if Yvette is speaking your first generation and you're hearing him sell America in a way that most Americans can't sell America you know what's my simplest question I want to ask a candidate sell me America can you sell America sell America like if I ask you right now sell me why somebody ought to create content on YouTube you could sell it if I said sell me on the idea of making money at a young age sell me real estate sell me why I ought to be in a different industry most of these candidates don't even know how to sell America they don't know how to sell America how do you sell America sometimes to sell America property you have to know what is the opposite of America and the only way you know what the opposite of America is you have to have lived in another place you have to have experience what it's like to give a perspective some somebody's not paying attention to it so is it a lot that I think they'll eventually amend I think they'll eventually amend it do I think it's going to happen next 5 10 20 48 years I don't know where do you think America went wrong because it seems like for the most part people are spending more time on drama uh Stupid arguments Petty things where do you think that began uh because it seems like from my perspective that there are much bigger issues at hand the people just don't care about yeah they just ignore so let me ask you this so so let's just say you got two kids and your kids are going to come and hang out with my kids at my house they're seven eight years old okay um what's the first question you're going to ask from your wife about where your kids are going I'm not sure what would you do you want to know who your kids friend's parents are yes okay what do you want to know about them what do they do for work okay what else where do they live okay um maybe what what they're teaching their kids okay so let me let me give you which one of them gives you a red flag okay um yeah babe it's a good family the mother is a teacher at a Christian private school in the community and the dad is a real estate guy whose father was a senior pastor at XYZ that's one family let me give you the next one yeah it's the the they're raised by their father it's an interesting it's a single father that's raising the kids and uh yeah you know so I think he runs the nightclub one of the biggest nightclubs in Miami is what he runs yeah so that's what he does okay I'll give you another situation yeah uh you know uh the the the mother one of the girls told me that the mother you know sometimes smokes weed you know uh in the backyard and they've smelled weed in a house before but I don't know apparently she's sweet which one of those three families do you say I'm a little bit concerned about the kids being there without me being there and which one of them are you like okay cool let them be there probably the weed one I'd be concerned about okay uh first one I'd feel more comfortable okay why though I feel like they're probably more structured more disciplined um and would teach values that I think would be conducive to raising someone who's wonderful and I agree okay so watch this but you're playing odds yes are you converting to believe in Jesus because those guys are you know no but you're playing odds to see which one you're going to feel your kids being safer is it 100 no well you're playing the odds game right okay we went wrong the day we took God out of school it's just period we went wrong kids standing up praying I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation but under God you know invisible we went wrong when that was gone we went wrong when it's like hey let's wake up heavenly father thank you for this thank you for this please give us the you know thank you for the nourishment and today allow me to stay focused to study and learn and get better with the teachers okay there was nothing wrong with that with us praying Woodrow Wilson kind of messed it up a little bit but taking God out of school was a big mess not because the fear was well I don't want my kid to be a Jesus loving person that's not it there is a the fear of God plays a very big role one of the reasons why I didn't do uh uh you know as a kid I did a lot of stupid things and I you know wasn't a kid that you know you would have wanted your kids to be around but if there's one thing that worked even though I didn't believe in God I was afraid of God because my mother would say the one line Hey listen you can lie to me you can get away with me not finding out what you're doing but trust me everything you do wrong God is watching you she probably said that to me a couple thousand times so every time I was about to do something wrong my mom's not gonna find out but God is watching right the fear of God prevented me from doing a lot of bad things a lot of kids are the same way as well now some people say well that's exactly why I turned out so messed up and I have anxiety and panic because there was the fear of God right okay fine you can go and complain about your parents putting the fear of God in you but I think it's more good than bad so if we're playing the odds game taking God out massive problem massive so think about this you don't believe in God you believe in God but you don't have a God where it's like you don't Jesus or Christianity or any of that stuff right okay so if you have to choose which of the two things to put in school and you have to have one of them which one will it be you ready for this technical question would you rather have your kids have to learn about God and pray every morning and to pledge allegiance to the flag but they don't get lgbtq learning you know all the different Sexes and all that stuff or would you take God out of school and add they have to learn about what it is to be gay lesbian bisexual queer trans and they have to know at an early age because it's part of us being free and not being discriminatory what you do is too would you want your kids to learn about and you have to give up the other one I feel like there has to be a balance because you don't want to be oppressive or let's say your your kid is gay you don't want them to feel like they can't be accepted and they can't be themselves but at the same time there's got to be some sort of you got to pick one of them I don't know man I I don't so that's a problem but that's a problem yeah and the reason why that's a problem is the following thing um are you gay me yeah no what do I need to do listening what do I need to do to convert into being gay I don't think you you can you don't think I could convert you to being gay I don't think so okay yeah so let me ask you this uh who converted you into getting a real estate license I did who influenced you though how did you learn about real estate I saw a TV commercial for a Million Dollar Listing perfect I got in my mind and you were influenced to be a realtor you weren't born with wanting to be a realtor Bingo yeah did you get it let me explain to you what I mean by this sure please show stats came out that shows which generation is the gayest generation of all that's part of the lgbtq community do you think you care more about what I think at this age or when you were 14 years old definitely 14. no problem me too right so do you think it's easier to convert you in a way of thinking at 14 or 33 14. of course right okay I became a Christian because somebody talked to me about it I got into Insurance because somebody influenced me to get into Insurance okay I got into bodybuilding because I was influenced by Arnold Schwarz I went to Santa Monica Community College because I was influenced because that's where Arnold went in from somebody influenced you right four generations five generations traditionalist you got the Boomers Millennials Gen X and you got gen Z you ready traditionalist point eight percent of our gate point eight percent of traditionalists are gay Boomers 2.6 percent then you go to five percent then you go to ten percent you know what percentage of gen Z identifies as lgbtq 21 percent 21 so who do you think cares less about what you and I think traditionalists or gen Z's traditionalists you think if you and I are 70 years old and we're gay do you really think you and I care about what other people think what do you think no you're coming out you ever seen a grandma or grandfather drop f-bombs and it's like get your butter out of my because that you understand I'm 10 years away from living and dying like I don't give a what you think about me but if 21 of gen Z is gay they're being influence just like you were influenced to be a realtor just like I was influenced to go into SMC influence that's a problem so the fact that you a very smart guy a super successful guy at your age cannot tell the two apart that means you're you're not really putting a lot of thought into what's going to influence who because God faith that's going to influence you to do what completely different thing don't you think that some of that though is a bit of that overall people are on somewhere on a spectrum and if you're let's say a two out of ten or a three out of 10 that maybe you're more open about that whereas in other Generations you weren't and perhaps it's somewhere in the middle no I think lgbtq is a religion and you choose which religion you want to be in front of your kids okay uh you choose if a person is gay you're eventually going to be gay you're gonna be gay you're not gonna be if you're gonna do what you're going to do like for example I I thought about I interviewed a guy who was a um uh negotiator FBI agent who would sit down with people that killed um uh uh that were you know murderers that killed their own family members and I said so what gets somebody to get to the point of wanting to do something like this and he explained how there's a difference between what you're born with what's your influence with and then to take the action right there are some people that are born who are dark human beings period that they enjoy it they're born that way you know if you look at the Iceman I don't know if you've ever seen interviews of the Iceman have you ever watched any movies of Iceman yeah that guy is cold and he enjoyed what he did what percentage of the world is like that what would you say point one percent okay so are we going to say no he was influenced to be that way there had to be a darker person in his life to get him to be that dark no he's born that way okay are some people born gay maybe maybe okay but if we take a thousand gay people what percentage of them are gay because they were born gay what percentage of our gay because they were influenced to be gay or life influenced them to be gay that's a real question we have to talk about I understand it's very uncomfortable I think it would be just attraction or like like I am attracted to certain people and a certain type I'm not attracted to another type no problem so I feel like that would be the same thing with gender I'm like if you're attracted to men or women that would be Graham yeah do you think you need to learn how to give a to another boy 11 years old no that book is in schools recommended teaching by many teachers in America do you think that's a problem sure do you think it's a better usage of my time to learn how money Works yes or how to please another boy at 11 years old right so then you have to decide your values and principles between the two I think these values being taught to kids are kids typically more liberal or conservative liberal liberal are you kidding me I'm all liberal like let's try drugs let's try this let's break the law let's break this hey let's sneak into the swimming pool have the cops chase us hey let's test this out we're liberal right so we don't need to teach more liberal policies to kids they're gonna do we're gonna do stuff we need to balance it out with what with this okay so now watch this do you think Rich greedy people who have a lot of money do you think they need to be taught more conservative stuff or more this stuff liberal stuff what do you think do you see how this is working out so to me it's the other way around I think we've mixed it up so be understood this guy's 28 years old he's gay no problem I got plenty of gay employees I have plenty of lesbian leaders in my company plenty of them and see how my relationship is with them you chose to do that as an adult salute a couple that were here yesterday just watch how they hugged me when they see me we love each other we have an incredible relationship then later on we need to learn and say hey man can you be a little bit kind to these people dude relax they just see things in different way than you do all good I think we need to give conservative values to kids when we're liberals and I think we need to inject a little bit of this when we're older successful to be a little bit more understanding I think the education is out of whack you know maybe the lgbtq stuff can be taught to people that are older to be a little bit more gentle to them but it's outside you're asking a question I'm gonna go back to God is one of them what's being taught in school is one of them not enough money Finance is one of them the way we turn our heroes into here you know who the hero-making machine is in America is a problem today we recognize complainers today we recognize who posts more naked pictures on social media gets the most likes today we recognize that more than somebody like you is responsible makes his own money works his tail off you're you seem very kind you seem humble you seem likable yet you're doing your research yet you're willing to talk to people so we've confused kids on who the hero today is oh my God poor person look at this person they came out of the closet at 14 years old let's do 28 articles on them but that 14 year old kid who made 28 000 independently that's whatever it's not a big deal but let's highlight this person what are you doing which one do we need more for society more people coming out of closet or more 14 year olds that are making twenty eight thousand dollars on their own we're turning the wrong people into Heroes and it's confusing the F out of kids so to me those are things that we've been doing that's kind of messed up America how do you decide who is welcome on your podcast versus who isn't you've had a lot of controversial people I saw recently had Anthony Weiner on who had sent uh sexually explicit photos to a minor if I'm not mistaken how do you decide what is crossing the line versus what is it I have to be interested in the story of the individual if I'm not interested I'm not interested so for example if you talk to Sam and you ask how many people have given us offered a hundred two hundred thousand dollars to be on the podcast we would never do it okay you're not going to give us money to be on the podcast because I know I'm lying to the audience and I'm gonna be fake because I don't care about your story I have to be interested in you if I'm doing it because I'm doing a favor or you paid me money I'm forgetting who the priority is you have to make sure you're you're honest and straight up with your audience so Alex Jones and then jenk those two guys hate each other when I asked Jake would you ever do a podcast with Alex Jones oh my God absolutely not no no this Anthony Weiner then I'm bringing a Catholic priest okay Kris Cuomo then I'm bringing you know Jordan Peterson so to me I've interviewed Samuel gravano he killed 19 people you kidding me like what's he doing there I mean what are you interviewing him for right I want to know motives I want to know why I want to know why you think the way you do I want to know what influences you to think you're that right about your philosophies and ideas what got you to the Tipping Point of make the decisions that you made but my best guess are the people that I'm interested in their stories and I like misunderstood people I like complicated people um yeah I'm typically interested in complicated and misunderstood people and Anthony Weiner different story when he came in we were having a podcast prepping a bag and I said look guys uh he was pitched to me by my uh producer and he had a book coming out I said yeah I'd love to talk to this guy for one reason not because if I'm interested in him I want to know your wife was Hillary Clinton's right-hand person this is a person that knows everything about Hillary Clinton good about ugly and that's a very complicated individual Hillary and Bill I want to know about these guys so for me I want because I'd like to interview Bill and Hillary Clinton and publicly I tweeted out and I said I'd like to publicly extend an invitation for Bill and Hillary Clinton to be on the podcast you know over the years your legacy you're known as the most powerful couple in the history of politics in the last 50 years and there's a lot of rumors about you and there's a lot of things said about you whether true or wrong I want to discuss it if you're open to it let me know and boom we got a bunch of commentary Pat's not suicidal Pat's not dispatch not that I want to talk to the clintons I want to talk to Putin I want to talk to some complicated people in the world I want to have these conversations with Maduro I want to sit down and talk to some of the folks from Iran uh because it's complicated but we're sitting in the back about Anthony Weiner and I said look if he's respectful we'll have a respectful discourse but if he's disrespectful and he wants to you know come in and pig and wrestle and all that's I have no problem wrestling with a pig for two hours I'm all game you know we'll have a good time and obviously I don't know if you've seen it or not it was a very intense conversation from beginning to the end because he came in disrespectful and then let's play Let's play ball and it was a blast we had a good time together for two hours I love that philosophy and I wish I could expand on that more but I I appreciate the fact that it's just about satisfying your own curiosity oh yeah who would you like to talk to and there's certain people I would love to talk to you know Martin shkreli for example but I know he's very controversial and bringing him on some people could say oh you're platforming somebody with this ideology he's like no I want to see very interesting I know that's he'd be very interesting yeah but I am concerned I would watch it if you guys did it okay we're gonna we're gonna try for it but I think he could be a very misunderstood person but having him on and are you kidding me you know what things he can teach about big Pharma yeah you know what things he can teach about how if he was able to charge it for five thousand dollars or whatever he was doing what can you leak about what about the patent laws there's so many different good questions to ask us where do you draw the line in terms of your guest is there a guest you would not choose to have on I'm trying to think who I wouldn't like give me an idea of who give me a name white supremacist for example oh and I'm not interested in that you know a full-blown like a KKK the Hat on all of that I'm not interested in that I'm not interested in that um who else ask me who guys I've had a lot of people that people would say you should never have that person on every time I have a guest politically the other half is upset with me every time well I can't believe you had them on I can't believe you had them on but now we've had so many people from left and right on that they're both eventually they're immunized they're like listen this guy's gonna have them on we can't tell them what to do like a cartel leader I would have them on absolutely really absolutely I would interview uh I would absolutely interview cartel are you kidding me you know the types of people I interviewed in the mob and cartels those are some of my favorite videos yes by the way and and I love those interviews uh first time I called Sammy the bull I'm like Sammy uh who the is this this is Patrick are you the guy that did that interview with Michael Francis and you put the title mafia boss you know he was never on Mafia Boss he was a couple what the you doing if you're gonna do I'm the only person that interviews me as a professional like Diane Sawyer three hours later me just listening to him I said Sammy can we just meet face to face let's have a meeting if you're comfortable then let's do an interview let me think about it nine months later I'm in Phoenix we go to this building I'm walking all the way in the back I want to like a warehouse type of place and we sit there for three hours and you just talk and talk and talk and talking talking he said okay I think I'm ready let's do the interview then we did the interview and now boom 20 million views I don't know I think it's a 19 and a half 20 million views today but yeah I'll definitely interview cartel leaders I wanted to get your reaction to this clip before we end this is a bit more of a current event that we're going to be posting sure this is a clip from Mia Khalifa and she said that if you marry the wrong person early there should be no shame in getting divorced if you're with the wrong person get divorced and this clip is going viral and it's this if you haven't seen it I have not seen it married at 18 divorced at 21 second marriage married at 25 divorced at 28. third engagement engaged at 29 ended it at 30 but I kept the ring I'm still keeping Tom Brady on his toes we should not be afraid to leave these men we are not stuck with these people marriage is not a sanctimonious thing it is it is paperwork it's something it's it's it's a commitment you make to someone but if you feel like you're not getting anything from that commitment and you're trying you gotta go you gotta go you have to go I know it's difficult to fill out paperwork and to make appointments and to do all of these things but this is your life do you want to be stuck with someone period do you want to be stuck with something is this girl okay yeah it depends on what she's saying here on a couple different things one one of the most important books I read on relationship was 101 questions to ask before you get engaged I read this book and the woman I thought I wanted to marry I was like no that's not what you're looking for you you want this like wow out of 101 questions like 54 of them were important to me so then I was talking to four girls at that time I gave them all the books and I said I need you to read this book and let's have a meeting together go through the answers I knew three of them wasn't going to work out my wife and I had a six hour meeting with that book and then I'm like okay cool let's date for a year and a half then I'm gonna marry this girl we date for a year and a half we have a bunch of fights you know and then eventually I'm like nope I'm gonna marry this group but I knew after I read the book this could be somebody I can invest my time into but most people don't marry based on values and principles most people marry based on nice breasts based on a beautiful butt based on a beautiful face based on an incredible chemistry in the bedroom sex was great you went to a nightclub you dance good together you have a blast together you laugh together all of that stuff aren't the reasons to marry okay those are great reasons to date I dated two girls whom one of them I knew from the beginning I was never going to marry this girl and by the way I love this girl we had an incredible time together but I knew we were never going to marry each other that we have fun unbelievable fun did we do crazy things together out of control was it a blast yes yes was that going to marry her no was she going to marry me no eventually we sat down and we said look this is not working out and I want to get married and I I don't think we're going to be together I said I'm not going to date anybody until you date somebody first because I want to be respectful to you boom she goes date somebody first I said now you're a dating boom now I got no and I started dating another girl I was dating eventually one day after being together for two and a half years we had the awkward moment uh sex is amazing we're having a lot of fun uh we're like two kids every you would see us you know you'd see us at Venice Beach she's on top of me you were just wrestling we're having a blast we're laughing of course we're having a fight and some couple unfortunate events happened that you know took away life out of the relationship and we lost a lot of momentum but it got to a point one day by the way I'm an atheist at the same when I'm dating this girl one day I'm like I want to know if we're together because we actually have substance and things to talk about or if it's sexual and fun I said look I want us to go a month without sex and she says what see I want us to go a month without sex are you joking no I'm serious with you you're joking there's no way you can do this I don't know if I can do this I'm saying let's try to see if we can do it to see what we do late at night great first time we go out hey um movie's done at an expedition you wanna ah I'm gonna drop you off now you got to realize my pants they're about to blow up I mean I'm like ready to do something with her I'm like babe we got to spend some time I'm freaking on fire with testosterone I'm a high testosterone type of guy and I'm dropping her off and I'm just cursing myself out you're more the hell is wrong with your man you should have done this next night same thing next night same thing two three weeks later we don't have anything to talk about I'm like great relationship I don't know if we can be married should I say let's go to church together see if we can figure something out here are you being religious no I'm just trying to figure out if I want to get married you want to get married to me no yeah I want to get married to you I got a ring but I don't know if we can make it work I don't know what marriage is all about we need something to have a basis and we go to church one time so uncomfortable for her I'm like I'm not going to make you do this and then eventually we broke up she's happily married she's got beautiful kids we're still in contact I'm very happy for her and the other one is also happily married got kids all that stuff why is this person getting all these eyeballs she's saying some opinion that people want to hear apparently is that you can break a marriage in her space What is marriage in her space there is no meaning in marriage in her world why should even anybody react to that video you're talking about a porn star who goes around and marriage after marriage after marriage in that world what is the basis what is the standards I think the worry is that she is teaching people that getting married is not that big of a deal and if it doesn't work out just divorce oh so you don't like that what do you think about that I think in a sense well my parents are divorced I think if the marriage is not working I think it takes two people to equally want that marriage to succeed and I feel like if one person doesn't or if one person has checked out one person gets addicted to drugs and there's nothing that could be done I think there are circumstance or cheating I think there are certain circumstances where divorce I think is the right choice for people to separate so do you think uh she is potentially influencing others to leave their husbands do you think she's potentially doing that yes I do you do to a certain degree got it and do you think that bad to influence I think if someone's influenced by that they probably shouldn't be together to begin with so but I think do you think she's also influencing some other girls to maybe not be doing the stuff that they're doing and now they're leaving their husbands and be Reckless who cares if marriage doesn't work out go have your fun live your life it's about you do you think she's influencing some young girls to ruin their lives yes possibly possibly Graham you're a smart guy it ain't possible she is she's a diplomat okay he is a diplomat but he's he's kind of uh getting in his own way instead of just being straight up with it you know you're right it goes back to my point okay where the wrong people are becoming Heroes and they're influencing and converting and baptizing younger generation to live dumb lives that's the problem we are turning the wrong people into Heroes so if that person has that kind of influence do you want even more of that influence in schools in high schools in junior high schools no you're validating my point from earlier on on why the content we're teaching in our schools is ruining our younger generation by confusing the hell out of them and that girl right there is a hero today to many people because she's getting the eyeballs she's not now what would happen if she all of a sudden came out and she says I've lived a terrible life I've made a lot of dumb decisions I've been selfish my entire life I've changed my life I'm now going to church I found God or I want to live a different kind of a life I'm no longer drinking I'm no longer smoking I'm no longer doing drugs I want to figure out a way to be a mother one day because I want to invest into something that's got high rate of return and I want my daughters to be proud of me I'm not proud of my past but I want to change and I want to set the example for my kids to know that even a person like me one day can choose to chain so can others there is an element of hero making machine in that story we need more of those stories not these types of stores thank you for being so gracious with your time as well this has been absolutely incredible and thank you for your generosity you invited us last night to this amazing event I mean that was incredible with Vivek so that was great and I just got to say thank you very much anytime you guys keep doing what you're doing I I like your style and I'm excited to see what you guys do next and when you do do the interview with Martin make sure you let me know I want to see it I'm looking forward we could do this every year we could plan for uh this time next year I look forward to I'm going to be in your city in two days that's right so cool sounds good thanks guys thank you guys awesome cool uh thanks it's not usual that we have an audience oh