Video summary
The speaker introduces themselves as a self-proclaimed mystery thriller expert who has curated recommendation lists annually based on the Goodreads Choice Awards, setting the stage for their reaction to The New York Times' list of the 50 best thrillers of the 21st century. They note that the compilation was created by asking various authors to submit their own top ten picks rather than relying solely on critics or sales data, a method they find intriguing but uncertain about in terms of genre representation. Before diving into the specific titles, the speaker expresses concern that the list might skew heavily toward highbrow literary fiction and spy thrillers while underrepresenting modern domestic suspense authors like Lisa Jewell or Riley Sager, as well as traditional mysteries which often get excluded due to semantic distinctions between "mystery" and "thriller."
As they review the entries, the speaker tracks how many books are already on their reading list versus those that have slipped through the cracks of their knowledge. They express mixed feelings about certain inclusions; for instance, while praising Lisa Jewell's *None of This Is True* as a perfect quick read with great twists, they criticize Anthony Horowitz's *Magpie Murders* and Blake Crouch's *Dark Matter*, citing predictable plots and poor character connections respectively. The speaker also highlights their strong preference for atmospheric Southern Gothic works by authors like Stephen Graham Jones (*The Only Good Indians*) and Edward P. Jones (though the transcript focuses on SA Cosby), noting that while they haven't read everything, they appreciate how these books define modern sub-genres even if some feel too niche or dated to them personally.
Reaching the top of the list reveals a mix of genre-defining classics and controversial picks that challenge the speaker's personal taste. *Gone Girl* by Gillian Flynn is placed at number one, which the speaker accepts as inevitable given its massive cultural impact on changing demographics within the thriller genre, even though they feel they read it too late to appreciate its originality compared to later imitators. Similarly, Tana French dominates with multiple entries including *In The Woods* and *The Witch Elm*, while Stephen King's non-fiction work regarding JFK is included alongside heavy hitters like Dan Brown's *Angels & Demons*. Despite the presence of these icons, the speaker laments the near-total absence of pure mystery novels from authors like Richard Osman or Agatha Christie-esque writers, arguing that the list leans too heavily toward espionage and police procedurals rather than the cozy mysteries they enjoy.
In conclusion, while acknowledging that some selections feel outdated or personally unappealing—such as *The Girl on the Train* which they consider a bad book—the speaker ultimately respects The New York Times for highlighting influential works that shaped the genre's evolution over two decades. They appreciate the supplementary recommendations provided under each title and express interest in future lists covering fantasy, romance, and horror to provide better diversity across genres. Despite feeling like an outsider looking in on certain "classic" thrillers from before their time, they conclude that discovering these books could lead them to new favorites, though they maintain a firm stance that *Gone Girl* deserves the top spot regardless of whether it was ever their personal favorite read.
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So, I would say I am somewhat of a
mystery [music] thriller expert. Okay. I
read a lot of mystery thrillers. I put
out recommendation lists for mystery
thrillers. I read the Goodreads Choice
Awards top 10 in the mystery thriller
category every year. I kind of know my
[ __ ] a little, a little, a little, a
little. And just this week, the New York
Times put out [music] a list of their 50
best thrillers of the 21st century.
[music]
and I want to have a look at it and see
what I think of it. I believe the list
has been put together by authors. We'll
have a look at that as well, but I've
already seen like [music] Lucy Foley,
Ruth Wear put out their top 10s. I
believe authors were asked to put out
their top 10s to contribute to the list,
which I find very interesting. But yeah,
I'm intrigued to see what the New York
Times thinks are going to be the [music]
50 best century. Is it going to have
genre thrillers or is it going to be all
very like highbrow literary thrillers? I
feel like that wouldn't be a good
representation [music] of the genre. So,
shall we just have a look through the
list together and see what we think of
it?
[music]
Okay, here it is. The 50 best of the
21st century. Oh, they're already giving
us a tease as to some what's going to be
here. I mean, if I had to take a guess,
I would have said like Gone Girl is
going to be here. [laughter] I mean, I
think something tells me that's going to
be on the list somewhere.
Wait a minute.
I'm figuring this out. I also, if I had
to predict, like I don't know. I think
like Dan Brown's going to be on here. I
feel like it's difficult cuz it's the
21st century, right? So, it's since
2000. So, if you think like early 2000s,
there's stuff like the girl with the
dragon tattoo, things like that. But
then modern day, are we going to have
like a Lisa Jewel, a Riley Sager, things
like that? And another question,
[laughter] sorry to be yapping before I
get into the list. Another question is,
are there going to be mysteries on this
list? I think there could be, [snorts]
but I think mysteries are going to be at
such a disadvantage because I think
there'll be people who don't
differentiate, [laughter]
unlike me, between mysteries and
thrillers. And so we'll put mysteries on
the list on their top 10. And then I
think there'll be other people probably
like 50/50 split. There'll be other
people who go, "No, that's a mystery,
not a thriller, so I'm not putting on
the list." So, I think there will be
some mysteries, but like will there be a
Thursday Murder Club by Rich Dosman?
Will there be a Lucy Foley? Do you know
what I mean in terms of modern day
stuff? I don't know. So, let's get into
the list. I might not have thoughts on
every book. There'll be some books I've
probably never heard of. And I also want
to track how many I've read. How many do
I think I'll have read out of the top
50? I think it'll probably be less than
you think cuz I haven't read a lot of
2000s, 2010s even thrillers. I've read a
lot of like 2020 post that big thriller
releases, but in terms of older
releases, I haven't read a ton. So,
shall we get into it? I'm not going to
look at what's here. Spoilers. Spoilers.
Spoilers. Oh my god, there's so many
spoilers. I'm not looking at that. Okay.
Sent ballots to writers of every kind of
crime fiction from legal thrillers to
spy to cozy mysteries. Wow. Are we going
to have them? Rita McFaden took part.
>> What are you doing here?
Well, there's no accounting for taste.
You know, we've got some we've got some
heavy hitters. Stephen King, Alyssa
Cole. Hell yeah. We've got some heavy
hitters here taking part. We'll have a
look at that. Actually, I want to have a
look at some of maybe my favorite
author's lists. So, we'll have a look at
that afterwards. Are we ready? ARE WE
READY? OKAY. OH, INTERESTING. None of
this is true by Lisa Joel. I have read
Let's add it. I'm going to make a little
tally here of how many I've read. I
think it'll only be 10 to 15. But the
fact that we're already on one, that's
pretty cool. This is a tricky one
because I think I gave this five stars.
Can I Oh, wait, wait, wait. I can mark
it as have. Okay. No, I don't need to do
a tally. Close the notebook. [laughter]
Chuck it away. I gave it five stars. I
said we might have a Lisa jewel.
[laughter]
My mind. My mind. I gave this five
stars. I read this in an evening. Do I
think it's the highest quality book
ever? No. Am I kind of surprised it's on
this list? Yes. But I think if you
literally need like a book to read in an
evening, great. Great twists. Like I
think I want to read more Lisa Jewel. I
think she's a great thrill author. Great
twists.
>> Great uh great gowns. Beautiful gowns.
>> So anyway, moving on. Magpie Mur. Okay,
we've got a mystery straight off the
bat. Many of you know how I feel about
that. I don't think we should have them
on here. Have I read Magpie? I read an
Anthony Horowits. Did I read that one?
And I didn't love it, which pains me
because Antie Horitz is one of the most
like popular mystery authors these days.
Oh, I read it and [laughter] I gave it
three stars. Yeah, I didn't love it.
3.5. Oh, here we go. The splitting of
this book into half didn't work for me
and I feel like the they didn't
intertwine well enough to justify it.
Very disappointed. I thought this would
be a five plus star. Oh, Megan. Well,
it's obviously not great if I haven't
don't remember [laughter] reading it. It
didn't work for me. But like I say, it's
very Agatha Christie. They are right.
You can't beat a good Who done it? Well,
who done it isn't a thriller, but like
let's
let's just separate that. Let's just we
I got to get rid of that opinion because
obviously there's going to be mysteries
on this list. Um yeah, not my favorite.
I I'll be interested how far we need to
get into the list for a book where I'm
like this deserve to be on here.
Interesting. Interesting. A lot of
modern books. so far, but I feel like
the older books will be like the top 15
because they're the classics, the modern
classics, you know, All the Girls of the
Dark by Chris Whitaker. Now, here's the
thing. I started this and soft DNFed it,
but so it's still on my TBR. I'll say
want to read, although technically I
have read, I think, like 100 pages of
it. It was really good. I just remember
I wasn't in the right headsp space to
read it. It's one of those books that
I've put down and like I'm going to
enjoy this, but I'm not going to enjoy
it right now. So, I remember feeling
like it was very high quality writing.
Interesting. But again, I don't know if
I would call that a thriller. When I
think of a thriller, I think of Well,
there's none of this is true. [laughter]
I think of No Exit. I think of Taylor
Adams. I think of Riley Sager. You know,
you know what I mean? I feel like,
listen, I dunk on Riley, but I feel like
we should have a Riley on this list.
Interesting. Next one. Oh, another one
that is on my TBR. Not surprised it's on
here. This was very very buzzy when it
came out. I think the baby hates me. She
confesses days after birth. Yeah, a
parenthood kind of thriller. I'm very
interested in reading this. I'm actually
going to be doing a video soon where I
read a lot of thrillers. Well, not soon.
Probably by the end of the year. And I
would really like to get to this. I
would really like to get to it. So, I'm
not surprised to see that here. But,
okay. I feel 2011. We're getting into
not expert territory here. [laughter]
>> You are the biggest fraud that I've ever
met. Before I go to sleep by SJ Watson.
Haven't heard of it. Haven't heard of
it. Diagnosed with forms of amnesia.
Memories start to return. Okay. Yeah. I
was thinking, listen, I was about to say
a thought and it Riley Sega voted for
this. Okay, Riley. I was about to say a
thought where I was like, that sounds a
bit it's been done, you know. But then
it it corrected me. Okay. So, in the
world, an amnesia diagnosis, a sinister
husband, and an unreliable shrink may be
all familiar. Two familiar tropes, but
Watson definitely exploits them.
Goosebumps, right? Interesting. I don't
know if I I don't like I hate the cover
design.
Shiver me timbers. Like, that is not
Next one.
I have real problems with our
characterization [laughter] of Chris.
This is horror. This is horror. This is
[ __ ] up. This is not a thriller. This
is like supernatural horror. Lucy.
Lucy Foley. Lucy, get a grip, babe.
That's a horror. I've read it. Loved it.
Gave it five stars. Great book. Should
be on a horror list. Should be on I I
just I'm quite passionate, I think,
about genre classifications more than
the average person. I need to stop
making it a big deal. Great book. Great
like Sil Garcia like pen on fire. like
like really special. We read this in my
in person book club and a lot of people
didn't like it. A lot of people it was
too weird for but I love it. I love the
sicko. I love the mushrooms. I love it.
It [laughter] was so good. But shouldn't
be on here. Jar of Hearts by Jennifer
Hillier. I've heard a lot about Jennifer
Hillier as an author. Never read her.
I've heard of this one. I've heard good
things about this one. Esso Cosby very
well. Maybe so Cosby. If you if you like
it, I should read it. Oh yeah. I think
it's like someone's in prison in this
one. interesting. I wouldn't be adverse
to reading this. I'm debating. We'll get
into this maybe further into the video,
but if I want to do a reading vlog based
on some of this list, whether I read the
top 10, the ones that I haven't already
read, whether I, you know, read maybe
some of the picks from my favorite
authors, I think any of those could be
fun. Maybe I do both. Who Who knows?
Interesting. Haven't read it. Not on my
radar necessarily, but interesting pick.
[laughter]
I hate to say it. I hope I don't sound
ridiculous. I don't know who this man
is. Lush Life by Rich Price. 2008 C. Liz
Moore. Isn't that the author of God of
the Woods? Generational book. God of the
Woods. Liz Moore. That is that is okay.
Maybe I can trust her judgment. Okay.
So, this is like New York detective. Not
on my radar. Again, this is this is
there's got to be books like this on
here. I'm only going to be like, "Woo!"
when it's like a 2020 release or later.
But, and thus, there'll be some of you
who are like, "Call yourself an expert,
babe." And everyone begins somewhere.
Okay. Be nice.
interesting you. Okay. Not a book I
would want to read. Not a book that's on
my radar, but I kind of thought there
was a world in which this could be
higher, right? Because like it's so been
so influential with the series, the TV
show and stuff. I'm not a big stalker
thriller girly, you know? So, I don't
know if this would be for me, but I feel
like it's a book that probably without
having read it, right, seems influential
in the genre that should be here. Harlen
Cobin. I feel like maybe we have might
might have more than one Haren Cobin on
this list. Who knows? Tell no one.
haven't read it. I would really like to
read a fantastic first line. There
should have been a dark whisper in the
wind. Oh.
Oh. Wait, this one sounds kind of good.
I would love to read a Haren Cobin is
what I was about to say. I've never read
a Haren Cobin. I would love to give him
a go. David Beck fell in love with his
wife Elizabeth in second grade. He's
still giving her loss eight years after
her abduction and murder on an
anniversary triple H Charmaine. When a
coded email that could only have come
from her arrives in his inbox and two
more bodies discovered in the lake with
evidence that incriminates him, he's
forced to investigate. That sounds good.
You know, that sounds good. I like that
they also are giving recommendations
based on if you enjoyed this. I think
that's really fun. I might have to pay
attention to as well. This is fun. This
is a fun collation of, you know, a love
for a genre. I'm enjoying this. Dark
Matter by Blake. This is sci-fi.
[laughter] I get that you could have a
sci-fi thriller, but I just personally
would not be putting a sci-fi on my I
mean, Freda put it on here, so not read
it. Would be intrigued.
Okay, moving on. Sarah Waters
Fingermith. I feel like this is the
first on the list where I have not
heard. No, I'm trying [ __ ] There's been
others where I haven't heard of the
book. It's Victorian
London 1862.
A I love a good twisty gothic melodrama.
Wait,
interesting. Never heard of it. Never
heard of it, but would be intrigued. Oh
god, this isn't very good. We've we've
hit a we've hit a part of the list where
my expertise is. Okay, I feel like I am
Pilgrim is a pretty well-known. This is
very This is so This is so far from my
ball game. This is honestly I am not
into espionage, spy, secret agents,
biochemical threat. Oh, sorry. Sorry
[laughter] that that ain't me. But
again, I feel like you need this is all
part of the genre, right? You need books
like that to represent it here. The
house your house will pay 2019. Why have
I not heard of this? The murder. That
sounds super interesting. I could be
tempted by that. That sounds
interesting, but I hadn't heard of it.
Oh lordy ity. Oh my god. Okay. Oh
[laughter]
god. Number 36. Blake crouch. Babe
have read
less than [laughter]
hated it. DIABOLICAL
EVERY
BLOODY KILL.
>> I wonder whether I wrote anything in my
good readads review for this. I don't
think I did. I think it was in my ear of
not writing good readads reviews. But I
could have been so insensed that I did
write something. Let's see. Two stars.
Oh, here we go. I did write something.
I'm actually angry. Yeah, the anger's
never faded, babe. Didn't feel connected
to the characters. The writing was me
and the ending was so predictable. I
don't understand the hype. Vlog coming
Thursday. Everyone's waiting with baited
breath. Me. [laughter]
I I hated it. I hated the twist. It felt
I read it not even long after it came
out. I probably read it in 2020 [snorts]
and I was so excited about it. Like I
remember thinking, "Oh, I might buy the
American cover and get it shipped over
cuz I love this cover. I hate the UK
cover is like a chair in a room." I
mean, that should have been a bad omen
already. I
It was just like [laughter]
it the twist was the kind of thriller I
hate hate hate hate. So, I have read it.
[snorts] I don't think it should be on
here, but there you go. Oh. Oh, The Sims
Bleed by SA Cosby. Read it, baby. Read
it. I think I gave it four stars. Essay
Cosby is a writer that I would love to
get more and more into. I think this one
is my favorite of his that I've read.
You're following this town's which is
quite I think a racist town in many
ways, but it's their first black sheriff
and there's a killing of a teacher at a
school by a student and there's
questions about could the town basically
unravel over this murder. It was really
interesting. A really interesting
character study of the main character
and also a really interesting character
study of the town and this the dynamics
in the town. It was really good. This
deserves to be in here. Yeah. And the
humid southern atmosphere. Hell yeah.
Loved it. Tana French. I've never read a
Tana French girly. The likeness. Body of
a young woman in the Irish. Oh, I do. Do
you know what? I don't think I've read
many books set in Ireland. And I am
Irish. Let you know. HalfIrish, babe.
Half Irish. Um,
I would love to read some some Irish
thrillers. So, this intrigues me. This
intrigues me. Both voted for by Julie
Clark, author of The Ghost Writer, but
haven't read it. Oh my god, two Tana
Frenches. Oh, I'm scrolling. Uh, back to
back. The Witch Elm. I don't think I
have heard of that one. That one's 2018.
A human skull hidden in the hollow of a
centuries old elm tree. That sounds
good. Big Sky is about identity,
provision, memory. Oh,
that sounds good. There's a lot on this
list. It do sound good. Notes on
execution. Not surprised to see this on
here either. This was super buzzy when
it came out in 2022. I feel like I don't
know if I'd want to read this today. It
feels like a very 2022 book. You know,
there's this guy who's set to be
executed for serial murder and he's
guilty. And I think we're following Yes.
We're following the voices of the women
in his life. So, we're following
perspectives of the women like his
mother, his ex-wife, stuff like that. I
remember it being super popular and
super well reviewed, but I don't know if
I would What's the first line then? You
are a fingerprint.
Interesting.
Interesting. Not surprised to see it on
here. Oh, lordy. [laughter]
Sorry. When the cover design is bad, I
just can't I just can't. I I can't.
>> No, it's just ugly. There's nothing
positive. There's nothing good.
>> Defending Jacob. Simply great writing.
The truth was not going to be found. Not
with the evidence this untainted. Not
after everything that had happened. I
mean, sure. District attorney. His son
may have stabbed a classmate to death.
Moving on. This is fine. The
sympathizer. I don't think I've heard of
this. 2015 debut novel. Pulit surprise
winner. Spy thriller. Political satire.
That sounds very intriguing as well.
There's been a lot on this list that
sound intriguing that I have never heard
of. This is probably a book I should
have heard of, but it seems more
literary. I got in it. I'm like I read a
lot of um no-brain
thrillers. The plot, another one I
haven't read but have heard of. Oh,
yeah. He steals his student's idea after
student dies.
Hell yeah. Okay. Not surprised to see
this one on here either. The Perfect
Nanny. Oh, I have read this. I don't
think I liked it. I read this a long
time ago. I read this for like my uni
book club, maybe even before I started
my YouTube channel. Let's see. I think I
gave it like three star. Yeah. Three.
I remember it feeling quite meh. I
remember feeling
[laughter]
[gasps] this. Jessica null. It always
shooks me with an author who I love. I'm
like, babe, [laughter]
are you sure about that? Didn't love
this. I think there was something about
the translation from the French in this
that I just found quite bland. And it's
like it nothing really happens. It's
it's very much like a an examination of
all these tensions that it's laying out
here rather than
things happening. And also IT'S VERY
SHORT. OH, [screaming] Big Little Lies.
I feel like this should be higher. It's
pretty It's pretty iconic. Big Little
Lies.
>> Mother
>> has arrived.
>> Hell yeah. Five stars. Five stars. I
talked about this a lot. I read this
when I had CO and it was perfect. It was
perfect. It was everything I needed. I
had no brain space. I didn't want to
look at screens, but I wanted to read
about these women and their lives. And
I'm very excited for them.
It was so good. And there was so many
interesting elements of it, like the
Greek chorus of the women in the town in
between chapters, like everyone's kind
of giving their opinions in these
little, you know, scripted lines. Oh.
Oh. Oh. It's so good. It's so good. It's
a perfect for me suburbia thriller, you
know, between, you know, I'm not a big
fan of like husband and wife stories or
family kind of thrillers, but this is a
peak peak peak peak peak version of
this. I wonder whether we're going to
see like Celeste Ing on here with like
Little Fires Everywhere, Everything I
Never Told You. I feel like Celeste Ing
deserves to be on this list, so if she's
not, I'll be mad. Oh, there he is. I
feel like Am I Are we going to see
another Dan Brown? Oh, there it is. I
haven't read it. I'm going to read soon
Secret of Secrets at some point. Well,
not soon. Maybe not even before the end
of the year because I think I've planned
all my vlogs the end of the year and
it's not among them. But I want to do a
vlog where I read the books I've soft
DNF because this was another one. This
and All the Colors of the Dark were ones
that were like on the Goodreads Choice
Award towards list and by the time I got
to them, babe. I was burnt out. Like
[laughter] it was just I needed to soft
DNF them. I just don't I don't think I
would want to read this. Did I read it?
Did it win the good choice? No. No. No.
No. I think one of them I did and I
DNFed it. I just don't know if Dan
Brown's for me, babe.
>> It's not for me, Mark. I feel terribly
ill all of a sudden.
>> I'm going to give Secrets a go, but I
mean, it had to be on here, didn't it? I
feel like we're getting into had to be
on here territory. Winter's Bone. I've
heard of this, but I don't think I've
ever known what it's about. Caretaker
for two younger brothers and heavily
medicated mother. Sheriff's deputy
arrives. A meth cooking father who put
their home up for sale. Interesting.
Again, that sounds like a, you know,
classic. the
I'm kind of shook to see this here. It's
on my TBR, so I should say want to read,
but I just feel like I don't remember
this being so much of a thing. I can
remember it coming out, but I don't
remember it being so hyped that it
should be number 24 on the list above
Big Little Lies. Come on.
>> Oh, let's be realistic.
>> Come on. Big Little Lies is is genre
defining. The Da Vinci Code is genre
defining. You know, The Dry by Jane
Harper, that ain't genre defining. I
feel like at this point in the list, you
should be genre defining, babe. It's on
my TBR. I want to read it. I'm just
surprised to see it that high. Oh,
Donna. Donna Babe. Donna Babe. Ruth
Wear. I knew I could rely on you, baby.
Oh, Ruth Wear. I knew it. The Goldfinch
by Donna Tart is a great book. Now,
where is she? The Secret History. Can
you see her? Yeah. One of my favorite
books of all time. One of my favorite
books all time. The Goldfinch. I think I
gave four stars. I think people probably
put this on here because they're like, I
can't put The Secret History on here.
Now, this isn't what you think of when
you think of a thriller necessarily.
It's long. It's slow, but it is good. I
remember I read this like in a summer,
the summer before I started my channel
and I was like raising Mo. Ma was a
kitten that we had and I read it slowly
over like a week or two and I just sat
in the book and there's just some really
like iconic if you've read the book
there's some really iconic passages like
the part we're in the desert in Vegas
and stuff or like the part to do with
art. It's really good. Donna Donna we
are coming we are overdue the next book
10 years 2023 we're three years overdue.
Where's the next book Donna? You are a
literary genius to if you're out there
watching. John La Ka. I've never read
anything by this man. The Constant
Gardener. Never heard of it. It's 2001.
This is, you know, it's before my time.
This sounds interesting, but it sounds I
don't I would never read this, right? It
It's intelligent. It's an [laughter]
intelligent thriller. I I Okay, I never
read it. Room by Emma Donghue. Not
surprised to see this on here. I would
like to read this one day. I feel like
I've seen the film and I thought the
film was incredible. Again, this feels
genre defining. This was iconic. This
feels like the kind of thing that should
be on this list. An important story to
be told. Yeah. Another Tana is Tana
French, the author with the most books
on this list. Also, we're in the top 20.
Riley ain't getting on here. Let's be
honest with ourselves. Riley, [laughter]
[gasps] Riley, Ruth, they're not they're
not getting on this list [laughter] for
the top 20. Tana French. And I mean,
Dublin Murder Squad. So, she said that
she must have many books set in Dublin.
Maybe I need to read one, but I'm kind
of surprised for her to have three on
this list. That's crazy. Oh, here we go.
Sharp objects. Is it Gideillian or
Jillian? I think it's Gillian for her,
right? I'm I I can't pronounce names, I
fear. I think this is not going to be
the only Jillian. Gillian Flynn we see
on this list. Gone Girl has to be on
here somewhere. I haven't read this.
Would I? Maybe. Maybe. I mean, the
girlies seem to love it. Stephen King,
112263.
Stephen King has made his way onto the
list. I This is Yeah, this is about the
murder of of John F. Kennedy, right? And
like kind of reimagining it. Oh my god.
A school teacher has to go back in time
and stop having Oswald. [gasps] That's
crazy. I would like to read more Stephen
King. I've really enjoyed a lot of my
Stephen King that I've read and I've
only really read like the Mr. Mercedes
trilogy and then all the Holly kind of
spin-offs which I don't think is even
his strongest work. So I feel like in my
life I'm going to read a lot of Stephen
King's you know that seems right to me.
Like I want to read Carrie. I want to
read The Shining. I want to read other
ones. [laughter] Like when I listen to
people who are maybe a bit older than me
who like reading Stephen King was a big
part of their like maybe teenagehood or
something that seems kind of iconic to
me. So I would like to read that one day
probably. Shutter Island.
Was this made into a film? Shutter
Island the film or are they different? I
don't know.
>> It's almost hurtful to me to watch her
be so dumb. Again, that seems genre
defining them as well. So, it feels like
it should be here. There has been a
distinct lack of mysteries on this list.
Can I just say, but there's been a few.
And it's all down to the classification
of what a thriller is. And it I mean
like the fact that there's going to be
miss some mysteries on this list but no
Thursday Murder Club genre defining pin
on fire that makes me angry. Michael
Connelly the Lincoln lawyer
[laughter]
I'm afraid when it's a man and like very
manly topics like lawyers or police
detectives I'm kind of like
sure. What does it say? Oh John Gisham
but I mean men will support men.
[laughter]
I'm not being serious. I'm not being
serious. That does not entice me. Dare
Me by Megan Abbott. Never in my life
have I heard of this book. Steven Graham
Jones voted for it.
Okay, Stephen. Okay. Cheerleading Squad.
How have I never heard of this? How have
I never heard of this book? Never heard
of this author. And she's number 15.
Big Little Lies was number 25 or
something. I call [ __ ] Okay, we
need to talk about Kevin.
I mean, if I [laughter]
if I was making a top 10, no shade to
Miss Ashley or Drain, but I don't think
I would be putting a book by this woman
in my top 10. I just don't I would not
be doing that. I would not be doing
that. I get though that this is again,
like I'm saying, a genre defining book,
right? And genre defining books do
deserve to be on this list. I would
never read it. I'm not interested in
reading this. I think there's been a lot
of, you know, discourse around the book
and stuff, but just more than anything.
Let's scroll. Number 13. We're getting
high up now. Kate Atinson. Okay. I've
read a few Kate Atinsons and enjoyed
them. I've never read one in this
series, the Jackson Roadie books. It's a
detective. I don't love gritty
detectives. I like parro detectives.
There's a difference. gritty,
you know, in a dirty city of a cap, you
know, that's one thing. I parro gray
little cells inspired books is another.
I am I'm on this side of the fence.
Okay, this is not my thing. But I think
Kate Atinson, from what I've read from
her, is a really remarkable author. So,
we'll allow it. Number 12. We're getting
Oh, okay. Security,
can you please escort this lady over
here out?
>> Did I finish this? I might have DNFed
this. Let's check. I can't remember.
It's not a good sign. This There's
probably going to be quite a few on the
top of this list actually that I read
for a video um where I read the winners
of the Good Reads Choice Awards for
mystery thriller throughout all the
years. There were multiple Paula Hawkins
on the list and I didn't like either of
them, but I like I finished one of them
and I DNFed one of them and I can't
remember which one this was. That's not
a good sign. I DNFed it. It was bad. It
was This is This is so far from my kind
of thriller. Unreliable narrator, mental
health as a twist,
um domestic thriller,
bang, bang, bang. Like
double homicide. Like there's just many
things there that are not my kind of
thing. I DNFed this. Oh, wait. But I've
read it. Number 11. Oh, another SA
Cosby. I haven't read this one. I'm
like, [laughter] I haven't even really
heard of this one. I've heard of many of
his other books. This is his
breakthrough. Interesting. I would read
this southern noir crime novel. Hell
yeah. I think Essay Cosby is even the
book his I need to stop starting
thoughts before I finish [laughter]
that. Even his one that I didn't love,
which I read last year, which I can't
remember the title of he is still an
incredible author. I think the way he
creates atmosphere, the create the way
he creates like claustrophobicness,
feeling like he I feel like he creates
temperature in his books, if that makes
sense, which I feel like I can't say
that about a lot of people, but the way
he, you know, examine social dynamics,
the way he has character development, he
is an incredible, incredible author. So
happy to hear. We're in top 10. I could
read the top 10. That could be a video.
So let's see. Atac, I've never read
Atalok. I know a lot of people I believe
Mara really enjoys some of her stuff.
Bluebird. Bluebird. Rural Texas. Texas
Range has been suspended from his job
and without a bad was just a black man
traveling the highway alone. Still can't
resist chasing the case of two bodies
found in local bayou. Investigates race,
identity, and secrets. Interesting. I
mean, that sounds interesting. I've
heard so many good things about Atalok.
One of those thriller authors I've
always meant to get to. Like there's
certain authors that you're like, "Okay,
I should probably read a book by this
author." like you're one of the most
iconic authors [laughter] in a field and
I just never got around to one of her
stuff. Number 11. No. Number nine, Slow
Horses by Mick Kerin. Mick.
Mick. Slow Horses. No, actually I heard
a lot of people enjoy the show.
But I really British intelligence
about the intrigue and dignity of modern
office work with gunplay and terrorist
threats. Okay, listen. I'm sure it's a
great book.
>> [laughter]
>> I'm sure. I'm sure it's wonderful. Does
that intrigue me? No.
No. No. It does not. I fear. Number
eight. Razor Blade. Essay Cosby's had
like three on this list. So, him and
Tana French are the icons of the list.
This is what I was thinking is like one
of his most iconic books. When I saw the
other SA Cosby, I was like, "What about
Razer Blade Tears?" I just didn't say
it. I would love to read this. It's
about two friends. Yeah. excons whose
sons are getting married but then
they're brutally murdered and so I think
they're like quite homophobic and then
so they're having to unpack the fact
that like their sons who they love but
mistreated because they were homophobic
got murdered because they were gay and
so I think it's them unpacking all of
that. I would love to read this. Seems
like a deserving top 10 pick for me. Oh
yeah yeah yeah.
I didn't think I'd see this on here. I
thought it would maybe be too modern.
The God of the words spells more. Did I
give this I either gave it 4.5 or a
five. Great book. Great book. Great
book. I remember I was so happy when it
Can we say no Freda?
It might be too soon to say, but no
Freda.
[screaming]
>> This beat Freda in 2024, the good choice
Awards. It's a really good book. It
balances these multiple multiple
timelines really well. multiple
perspectives, all examining this summer
camp and these kind of murders/d
disappearances that have happened there.
Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Interest in exploring
the timeless figures of class and social
status and the depths of pornography.
Yeah. Really good. Really good. But we
should have had more mysteries on this
list. Like where the [ __ ] is Richard?
You know WHAT I MEAN? OH, I don't know
why I wasn't expecting to see this here.
But like this was big. Read it. Read it.
Read it. Read it. I really enjoyed My
Sister This Killer. It is. It is. Yeah,
it is a thriller, but it's a very
interesting thriller. Yeah, it's these
sisters and one of them Yeah. keeps
killing her boyfriends. It's a very It's
an interesting book. I feel like I I
mean, I read it so long ago. I read it
in 2020 that I feel like I would do a
disservice to kind of try and sum it up,
but I do think it's the kind of book
that kind of everyone should read and
see what they think of it. So, again,
happy to see that on here. No Country
for Old Men by Cormack McCarthy. Sorry
to Cormarmac, but I've never read I've
never read one of his books. Most direct
and relentless piece of storytelling.
Nearly impossible to put down. Set in
1980 across the Texas Mexico border
about the aftermath of a drug deal gone
bad. Interesting. Like, call Mike
McCarthy should probably be on this
list. I'll take it. Number four.
Didn't I say The Girl with the Dragon
Tattoo would be on here? I said it not
surprised to see it's on here. Was
absolutely iconic when it came out. Now,
is it a book that I really want to read?
No. Like, do I look at a lot of this
books or this top 10 that I haven't
read, they are very much not my this
book. This I feel like this list has
leaned towards very like detective.
There has even been many domestic
thrillers which still aren't necess I
have a very specific kind of thriller,
right, that I like, which is not
domestic and not cop the other ones.
[laughter]
But I feel like this hasn't even had a
lot of domestic thrillers. It's been
very cop or spy or espionage. Well, this
one's obviously like there's a there's a
computer hacker, isn't there, and a
journalist. Yeah. I mean, it should be
on here. It should be on this list.
Number four, sure. Gone Girl has got to
be in the top three. If Gone Girl is in
the top three, it's absolutely crazy.
The girlies are going to have voted for
Gone Girl.
[cough and laughter]
[gasps] Consider me gagged and goop.
Tana French with number four. Tana
French got the most. Have I got to read
a Tana French? Have I got to read In the
Woods? Have I got to read the top 10?
Edgar award winner.
Suburban island. Three children walk
through the woods. Only one comes out.
He remembers nothing. Now he's a
homicide detective with survivors guilt.
I mean, sure. Yeah. [laughter]
Maybe I need to read a I've never read a
ton of French. Is she that [ __ ] Not
derogatory. Is she that [ __ ] Hell
yeah. Tana. Very interesting.
Huh?
Who is she? Who is she? Where did you
find her?
>> Okay, like I really I shouldn't have
opened up this video saying I'm an
expert. I think I kind of am, but I'm
not because what the [ __ ] is Mystic
River by Dennis Fain?
How many people How many rings has this
got? Is this like you know that just to
help me judge? 170,000. Okay, I feel
like I can't be mad at myself that I
don't know this. One of the most
naturally cinematic writers in the
genre. Three boyhood friends in
working-class 1970s reverberate across
decades. One of their teenage daughters
is murdered. Sure. Never heard of her.
Never heard of her. Lee Child voted for
it. I'd like to see all the authors that
voted for it. Pretty please. Okay, let's
just say Gone Girl is number one. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep.
Yep.
>> Excuse me.
I'm a genius. Look, I've read it now.
Unpopular opinion. I don't think I love
Did I give this four stars? I read this
for that winners video where I read read
all the winners.
[laughter] I gave it three. Whoa.
I gave it three stars.
Okay. I remember feeling like I've come
to this book too late. Right. It came
out in 2012. I read it in 2022, maybe
like 10 years after it came out. And I
remember feeling like this is obviously,
go back and check the video, cuz I bet
you I'm kind of about to say the same
[ __ ] This is obviously a beyond genre
defining book. Like, this changed the
game. This changed the demographics of
the genre. It changed who is writing
books. It changed what they're writing.
It changed everything. Like, this is
beyond beyond influential. But I
remember feeling like I've come to this
book too late because I've read Gone
Girl ripoffs before I've read Gone Girl.
I've read books that are playing on
similar twists that are playing on
similar ideas that I enjoyed. But it
meant that by the time I came to Gone
Girl, I think what's so special about
Gong Girl is what it did. What it did
before like anyone else did it. So by
the time I came to Gonga, I was like me,
[laughter]
you know, this book deserves absolutely
without a shadow of a doubt to be number
one. To be number one. It it deserves to
be, but
wasn't my personal favorite. Okay, that
is the top 50 best thrillers of the 21st
century according to the New York Times.
A very interesting list. Some on here
that I think are great books. some on
here that I think are bad, [laughter]
but a lot on here that a lot on here
I've never heard of, right? Because they
are before my time and they are not.
This list is really not leaning to my
kind of thriller or mystery for that
matter. It seems like mysteries could be
here, but I'll just move on. Mexican
Gothic being on here is crazy. You know,
a lot on here that I can accept. I can
even accept The Girl on the Train being
here, right? I think it's a bad book,
but I can accept being here for the role
it plays in the genre. And there's a lot
on here that I think I can accept for
the role that they play in the genre.
And this top four, other I've never
heard a Mystic River. I'm so sorry.
Shoot me. Like, I'm sure this man is a
genius. And this is a great book. Gone
Girl should be number one. No questions
asked. Gone Girl should be number one.
So, yeah. I really enjoyed looking
through this list. I mean, I love
anything that kind of plays homage to a
genre like this. And I think the New
York Times have done a great job with
like the kind of recommendations under
each book. So like what would I like if
I liked God of the Woods? Heartwood.
Heartwood's a great comp. I remember
when I read Heartwood, I'm like this is
God of the Woods 2.0. That's a great
comp. I think that that's great. And I
think people could discover more books
through this list that they really
enjoy. So yeah, I'd love to know your
thoughts on this list. I'd love to know
your thoughts on maybe some that I
haven't read or future videos you would
like to see based on this because I'd be
down. I think this is super fascinating.
You know, I'd love to see them also do
like they mention here, maybe doing more
of these across genres. I'd love to see
a fantasy one. I'd love to see a romance
one. I'd love to see a horror one. I
would love to see a mystery one because
you did in my opinion the mystery genre
like beyond dirty here. beyond dirty,
cruel, [snorts]
vicious
pain. Okay, that's how I feel about
that. Yeah, thank you so much for
watching this video. I hope it was
interesting and I'll see you very soon
in another video. Bye.