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In this special episode of their bridal era series, host Danielle and guest Brooke Miccio dive deep into their wedding planning philosophies while celebrating a unique family milestone with Danielle's 79-year-old grandmother, Birthday Dolly, who recently married Ken at age 89. The segment highlights the joy found in personal connections, such as couples greeting guests face-to-face, and introduces the concept of "Red Panic," a term coined to describe Brooke's chronic anxiety over trivial matters that has become a running gag on their podcast. Beyond the emotional anecdotes, the video promotes an upcoming needlepoint collaboration featuring canvases, tote bags, and ornaments, contrasting the long-form storytelling style of established creators like Danielle and Brooke with the more niche content emerging from newer YouTubers. The conversation shifts to practical wedding preferences where both women express a strong desire to avoid traditional stressors like large bridal showers, extensive wedding parties, and matching bridesmaid outfits due to logistical challenges with long-distance friendships and a preference for chill preparations. They plan to keep their dress shopping private until near the end of the process while prioritizing guest comfort through multiple drink stations, water availability, and custom note cards. Their vision includes capping speeches at three key people despite family preferences, utilizing a first look to ensure presence during cocktail hour and dinner, and incorporating unique touches like McDonald's afterparties inspired by their love for fast food or a potential safari engagement trip instead of an immediate honeymoon. When discussing the ceremony itself, the pair emphasizes keeping it personal rather than impersonal, with plans for private vows that include public anecdotes from their rabbi, though they acknowledge the challenge of matching quality if Charlie writes them. For entertainment and officiating, they suggest comedians like Nikki Glazer or Kiki Palmer for humor and even consider Olivia Benson as an iconic choice given their love of *SVU*, while preferring a live pop artist over a massive star who might overshadow the couple. The episode concludes with product recommendations for styling creams and body care items, alongside a reminder that the content may include paid endorsements and advertisements, wrapping up a comprehensive look at how they intend to manage wedding day energy without unnecessary stress.
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So, one thing about me is that I'm always I would just say I'm constantly like stressed about something. Like I don't have a ton of friends that are married either. I'm like really feel like a child bride. >> I could get behind some games, but it's like the who's like his or hers like I'm like why does anyone [music] care? >> It's like a 2-year engagement. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I don't I feel like that's like a normal time. Like we will have like around a year and a half and people were acting like ours was so long. >> The fact that we both would be showing up to an event in the same outfit like I to me I'd be like this feels weird. Dude, Brooke would like freak out. The best thing in a wedding is like when the couple's present in my opinion. Like that's the best experiences that I've had as a guest. Even if it's legit one minute, thank you for coming. Oh my god, it's so good to see you. Let's take a photo. Bye. Hi, house guest. Welcome back to my home. I feel like we haven't been here in so long. I've just been traveling non-stop. But oh, guys, before I forget, we do have a special guest. if you guys could could pan over to Birthday Dolly. This is the very first of my sewing projects. Now, did I touch that when it was getting done? No. But I have decided that I'm going to add a new hobby to my list and I am going to learn how to finish needle point pillows. Ma is teaching me and I think she's looking perfect and stunning. Now, this was a technically I didn't do this myself. Technically, it was in a class, but I do think she's looking fabulous. I need so desperately if anyone knows where the fabric is that these chairs if you guys are watching right now that these chairs like where the fabric is from or if I could buy it from Anthropology somehow if anyone has a hookup please let me know because there's nothing I want to do more than make house guest needle point pillows and put them on these chairs with matching fabric like I would absolutely die to be able to do that. So if you guys could just um you know send a little give me a little ring you know let me know. But um speaking of Ma. Oh my god, guys. Ma's viral. Ma, let's see what's happening right now. I spent the weekend at the lake house with my family. And if you guys don't know Ma, my grandma, she's an icon. She's been on the podcast a billion times. She is 79 years old and she met this man named Ken who is 89 years old. They fell in love. They had their first date in December. They were married by June and she is the happiest she's ever been in her life. She is the most She says he's the love of her life. He She is just like a teenager. She looks younger. It's crazy. Like she's acting like she's like a teenage girl in love. Like she's giddy all the time. It's the cutest thing I've ever seen. And he's 89 and is more active than anyone I've ever seen. Like it's crazy. Anyway, this weekend they went tubing on the boat. And I was like, "Okay." So I was sitting there, everyone's going tubing and I hear Ma, who by the way, they're wearing like clothes because they're not planning on getting in the water. She said that Ken asked like, "Oh, should I bring my trunks?" Like when they were packing. She's like, "Oh, no. We're not even going to get in the water anyway." So anyway, I'm sitting in the back with them. I'm needle pointing obviously. And I hear her start to say to him like, "You know, if I had my swimsuit, I would love to go out there." And she's like, "If you had your swimsuit, would you go out there?" And he was like, "Oh, I don't I don't know. Like that's not really my I don't know if we could do that." And then he realizes that she wants to go and he's like, "Oh, no. We're going." So, they go fully clothed, okay, on the tube, had the time of their life. She said it was the most fun she has had in years. Possibly the best weekend of her life when I called her to let her know that she's also viral, which probably, let's be honest with it. The woman loves the camera. Anyway, if you guys haven't seen the video, go to my Instagram or my TikTok right now and watch the video. I cried when I was editing it. I was on the way home and I literally like cried. It's the sweetest video I've ever seen. It's my grandma, 79, my Ken 89, and they fell in love and got married this year. She's acting younger and happier than I've ever seen her. And now, oh my god, look, they're giddy. The video was the cutest thing I've ever seen. And now 5 million views, 6 million total on Tik Tok. I mean, you know, Mike is loving this. So, I called her yesterday to be like, "Ma, you're viral." Which of course, like, leave it to her to beat me at my own game. Like, this is literally my job and she's viral, you know? And she's like, "Oh, I know. I've been refreshing the comments. Mind you, this woman used to not even have social media on her phone. Okay, so I'm like, "All right." She probably downloaded to like see her clips or something on the podcast. She's like, "Oh, I've just been refreshing all day. Isn't this just the funniest thing?" She goes, "Oh, I've sent it to every single person that I know, and they keep asking what's next, and I'm saying Mount Everest." It's it's just crazy. But in all seriousness, like if there was something that needed to go viral, it is that because it gives you hope. Like, it is just the sweetest thing ever. And you guys know I love older people. Like, that's just like that's my people. Like, those are my people. That's my group. like I love them and for those people who could have easily just given up on life and not in like a negative way but like not had hope for like the other things like finding love like they could have just been like you know I'm older whatever kind of thrown in the towel and just like lived not to the fullest they are living life to the fullest and it is just the sweetest thing ever he turns 90 in November it's crazy so anyway I will be having them on we do need to have a meet Ken episode he's the sweetest man alive and I have booked their timing I wish it has actually honest to god nothing to do with them going viral. I was planning on doing that anyway, but I need you guys to meet him and then for Valentine's Day we'll do a double date episode, but like that needed to happen. So anyway, first matter of business, MA is viral. Second matter of business, Brooke is on her way to Dallas right now and we are about to do a nice little stitch episode because her collaboration is launching today. If you guys are watching the day that this episode comes out at 10:00 a.m. Central, friend of mine, ex Brookroo Mitchio collaboration, the designs are fabulous. It's a little like sweet treat collection and it's perfect. Like it's just the cutest thing ever and you guys are going to absolutely love it. Let me check my little um thing. Oh, friendly reminder everyone. Friendly reminder that you guys do have book club and you do have house guest homework. Okay, if you haven't read Into the Blue by Emma Brody, we have her coming on the show in two weeks to recap the book and then we will announce our next book club book. But guys, this book is such a good read. It's so nostalgic. There's so many references. Like it's just such a like loving like a romance book that just like grips you and just you're in this new world. like she world builds in a way that almost feels similar to like fantasy world building which I feel like is the best of all the world building that there like ever could possibly be. It's so good. Oh my god. Wait guys, speaking of We need to chat. I finished The Calamity Club last night. [sighs] Oh my god. I had to finish it last night cuz I wanted to be able to come on the show and recap it with you guys. That is five star. Five star. Five star every which way that you chop that book. Five star. Now, might I suggest you need to listen to it on Audible? Okay, everyone was saying to me that that to me at first. I love a good audio book, but I'm definitely like between the two, I would lean more Kindle reader, but there's certain books that you just have to have on Audible. And really, just the truth of the matter is that I'm always needle pointing. Like I'm either always working or I'm needle pointing. And so that is what is kind of like hurt me with my reading because I used to read like a 100 books a year, but now anytime that I would been reading, I'm needle pointing. So now I've been listening to a lot of audio books, I can still read. You guys get the whole gist. Anyway, that book is one that needs to be listened to on Audible because it is so well done and the voices bring the characters to life in a way that I've like really haven't really felt about a book. I listened to the last probably like 25% on Audible. It I mean it's like a 27 hour long audio book. There's nothing like it. It takes place in Mississippi. There's so many different characters. It's the same author as the help. I actually like don't even really want to get into it because I don't want to I I don't want to like ruin any of this for you guys, but it's just the greatest book. Like take my word for it cuz everyone was telling me like you need to read The Calamity Club and I was like when I'm in the mood for that book, I'm reading it immediately. And I just finished The Calamity Club. So please let me know when I need to be reading. Also, I need good audio books. I need recommendations so bad. I'm having one of the worst book hangovers of my entire life and I really just need good wrecks this year. So far, I've loved The Correspondent by Virginia Evans, one of my top all-time favorite books. Atmosphere by Taylor Jenkins Reed, oh my god, The Women by Kristen Hannah, my all-time favorite book. Those have been like my top. Um, but God, I just need a good book wreck. So, please send them my direction. Also, speaking of recommendations, guys, we are doing a Halloween special. And by we, I mean it's the typical house guest special crew. So, it's me, myself, Harrison, Caroline, his sister, and then Charlie, my fiance. and we are doing a Halloween episode where you guys are gonna send in all your scary stories. We're gonna get around the campfire and we're gonna have a little like scary scary night. However, obviously we need costumes and we just like cannot for the life of us for some reason as someone who's so like spirited and like loves to dress up, loves a costume, loves the whole thing for a dinner party. I cannot for the life of me decide like what we're going to wear for our Halloween costumes and like no one is no one else can either. So if you guys have good things like maybe that are obvious, we can't do a garden. We've already dressed up as a garden for so many different things. Like what would make sense and like be timely for this year. Like I I really don't know. I need Halloween costume recommendations. Please let me know because we're we're shooting that very soon. So I need to like get on those costumes, but for whatever reason, I'm just having the hardest time and I just I need your help. So please let me know what you guys think we should be doing. So good catching up with you guys. But without further ado, let's welcome one of my oldest and nearest and dearest friends, Broo Pio, back on a house guest. for probably the 50th time in our lifetime. >> This is so official. >> This is so official. Hello, Brooke. Welcome back to Houseu Guest. >> Thank you for having me in your home. I don't think I've ever recorded in the home studio with you. I feel so But you've been here before. >> Of course. I've been I've been a house guest many times. Yes. Um but every time I come back, there's like new iter like I love it. It's like a new surprise, you know? Something's redone. >> Oh, I'm always working on something. You know me, I've got to I'm working on something. I'm ignoring the small details that are slowly falling apart like the faucet the the thing >> that's so homeowner core though like there's always something to improve upon and then just when that it's like a pipe burst or Yeah. >> I was actually thinking about that like right before you came over and cuz like our pool is messed up right now and I'm like god it's always something I was like Brooke gets it. Yeah, I I get and I just I just have a condo. I can't even imagine a home. Like you have a roof. Like you have to like [laughter] tend to a roof. Like that's crazy. >> No. And the roofs are like crazy. Like I'm really like there's always drama with a roof. >> I feel like the outside like I I remember like growing up hearing my dad talk about like siding and stuff of the I'm like I don't even know what that means. Like we got to fix the siding. I'm like what? >> I'm like what what is on the side? Like what what do you have a problem with? Like it looks good to me. >> And insulation. Like there's so many layers to >> You know what I know about insulation? >> What do you know? >> Recently, so a friend of mine, we just got an office and I needed some beautiful like fabric corkboards, but I don't know if you know this about a corkboard, a massive one. Those go for like $800 bucks. Like it's insane. >> So, I saw this girl on Tik Tok and she made a Tik Tok. Um I like linked it somewhere. I've been like resharing it, but she made a Tik Tok about how you can get insulation board from Home Depot and you just have them cut it to the size that you need and then you cover it with fabric. So, if you go in front of our offices right now, there's like fabric boards everywhere because I did it and it was like one fifth of the price >> and it looks good. >> Yeah. And look, look at me. I'm a DIY queen. >> Oh, that's I mean that's economical. >> I know. Look at me. That's money saving hacks right there. Yeah. But I can't wait to see the office and the iterations of the office. Um, I love that there's like a kitchen stuff cuz like you need it like for you need that. >> Yeah, >> it all needs to be painted though. >> And but can you paint like they'll or like it, you know? >> I know. Oh, okay. >> I know. [laughter] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Um, okay. Well, thank you for coming on the show today. >> Thanks for having me. >> This is a big week and this is a big day cuz it's our launch day. >> Happy launch day. >> So, what time? 10 a.m. >> 10 a.m. Central. >> So, it might be out by now, but we are doing the friend of mine. Well, you might be seeing if you guys are watching on video, Brooke and I are doing a little stitch with us episode. We are stitching. Should we show them what we're stitching? >> I think that we should. >> Okay, perfect. You can go first since you're a guest. >> Well, and mine's like on stretcher bars. Like, are have you advanced past that? >> No, no, no. And that that's not an advanced or not advanced thing. That's just preference. >> I love stretcher bars. Um, but I on the smaller ones lately, I don't know what it is. Like, I've always been a stretcher bar person, but I feel like I've like kind of broken free re recently, but on my big ones, I always do. I also got a scroll recently. Anyway, I'm still like more of a stretcher bar than girl than I'm not. >> Yeah, I don't know why I I guess that is my personal preference, but anyways, I'm working on right now the the gorgeous pickle lover canvas. I feel like it's the perfect size for travel. Um, you know, and then I have the I deserve a little treat needle minder right up here. Honestly, these stretch bars like don't really fit, but I like made it fit, you know, cuz it was like what I have. Like I'm not going to go out and buy new stretcher bars for a project, but like I have them at this point in my stash. >> In my stash. In my stash. >> Yes. I am working on I literally started this last night and I football was on so I like really got to I was also finishing >> started that one. >> Yes, Brooke I went crazy. I'm I was doing the background really fast. >> I'll be done. I'm a fast stitcher I will say. >> And I stitch for like an hour every morning. Like I wake up and I stitch from 6:00 to 7:00 every morning >> normally. Like unless I'm off my routine, but that's my like one hour that I'm like >> no phone like Yeah. >> Yeah. And like people don't need anything from me right now. >> I'm obsessed. I noticed that you were up early this morning cuz I flew here early this morning and you were like sending me texts early and I was like, "Oh, we love an early bird." >> An early bird. Normally, I'm not on my phone cuz I'm like, "Everyone please leave me alone. I have to stitch." You know, like I'm I'm busy. But also really um the real reason as to why I've been stitching up a storm >> is because I am doing a needle point Christmas tree this year for the first year ever. I don't know if you've ever seen the needle point Christmas tree that is my life goals on TikTok, but um I did have the hard real harsh reality of realizing that that was 600 needle point ornaments on the tree. Yeah. So I was like, "Oh, so I probably have like 20." And I also do massive projects all the time. Like if I just did an ornaments, I probably would have like 200 at this point. >> Yeah. I I mean I'm looking like in my eyesight right now, I see multiple projects. >> Multiple projects. No, I know. It's It's sad. So anyway, with that being said, I'm like, "Okay, I'm getting it together and I'm sending nine off to the finisher tomorrow and I did get guaranteed delivery back by the time my Christmas tree is going up." So, I will have more. And then then I think that seeing the Christmas tree not as full as I would like it to be will be good for me personally cuz it's going to push me to finish more ornaments. You know what I mean? >> That'll be good. >> Yeah. At first, I didn't really like I I feel like ornaments is a big needle point thing. Actually, we do have a gorgeous I I I lowerase finish, right? Isn't that what they say? I'm learning all the lingo, guys. I'm I'm kind of new here. But like, you know, I feel really included by the community. But this is also part of our collection. It's the >> ornament. It's a 4 inch round. It's an ice cream cone with the That's the 18 mesh version. This is the 13 mesh version. This is a bigger size. >> Cute. I mean, they're both really really cute and fun and colorful. I really like that the collection is very colorful and like fun. A little whimsical. >> A little whimsical. >> Yeah. Um, but at first with the ornament thing, I was like, I don't really get it. Like I what do you mean? But then I realized that you could kind of like use them as like door hangers or you can put it on a pillow if you like you can do other things with it cuz I I don't see myself necessarily having a full needle point ornamentry, but I would like to put a few on there. >> They're nice gifts to give cuz it's like a little something. It's I like the size. Yeah. >> I didn't either at first cuz I was like, look, if I'm giving all of my time and hard effort and money into this, you you bet your ass it's going to be out year round. But then as time has gone on, I'm kind of at the point too where I'm like, damn, I don't even have like I'm at the point where I will, first off, I've run out of doors for door hangers. That's problem number one. >> You have one on every door, you think? >> Basically. Yeah. [laughter] And then um in some of them we've moved to the office and then also I'm like I'm kind of out of pillows. Like I'm just going to keep going and going and going and but like it it gets to a point. >> It gets to a point. I don't think so. I think it looks lovely in here. It's so I'm looking at like the gorgeous wall of plates. That's new. I think that is new. That was new. >> Um and the hosting closet and just everything. I mean, that's what I wish I had room for is like more hosting. Like, I'm out of room. Like, I want to buy more McKenzie Child stuff like for every season, but I like we're at max capacity. >> Yeah. But so, your goals. So, >> no, thank you. That's just the pro of the living in Texas house thing. Like, you have the room. Wait, I think we should talk about like your We're going to obviously get into all things bridal because we are engaged at the same time, which is so fun. But I think we should start with your journey into Needle Point, your little foray to needle point. Can you give us a little intro on how this all how this all started? Can I literally think it was a manic episode? Like I I'm not even joking. Like I was having like Cuz you texted me and you're like, "Is everything okay?" Cuz I I picked up running and needle pointing in the same week. No, this was last October. >> No, I I really did. And someone else texted me. It was like, "Is Brooke good?" And then I was like, "Why are you asking?" I went to Instagram. I was like, "Oh, something something's going on at home." >> No, I just had a panic where I was like, "I I stand for nothing." Like I And I I do I stand for lots of things, but like I was reading. Yeah. That was like a recent hobby, but I was just like, I feel like I need things to keep me occupied. And I like I do like having a challenge. Like I work really well when I have >> a goal. >> A goal. Exactly. Like it was like, okay, I'm gonna run this half marathon or like, oh, I'm going to Well, that was my running goal. Now I haven't ran since that cuz I like did that, you know, now I need a new goal. Um, but then needle point, I was like, oh, I'll learn this new thing. And I just became obsessed. I needed something to get me off my phone. >> Um, I literally texted Kenzie like I was like, "Hey, I'm going to go to this Needle Point store in the morning. Like, what do I need to and you sent me like a little voice note and you told me what to ask. I went to Rita's on the Upper East Side in New York. Yeah, there's so I mean you literally walk in, you think you're in someone's kitchen. Like it's >> it feels like a me Ryan movie. >> It literally feels like a me Ryan. We just did I have this like new series that we just started actually this week on YouTube called The Crawl where I go to like different cities and we tour like we did like New York needle point stores, New York stores. We're doing a bunch of different things and I was there talking to the Rita's girls and they're like everyone always says me Ryan movie. I'm like no it's literally a merian movie. >> Yeah. No, you walk in and you're like, "Oh, like it feels like home." Like it does. It does feel It's not even kitchen. It's like living room, honestly. Like you feel like you walked in here like you're kind of like, "Am I in the right place at first, but then you look around, you see everything on the wall." Um the ladies in there are absolutely lovely. Um and they'll help you out. And I feel like I didn't really know what to do and they have beginner kits. So, I kind of like picked up a beginner kit and then I asked you for a stitching tutorial. I'm still stitching continental. Um so, I'm Look, I'm doing um Texas to Maine, right? That's what they >> There's nothing wrong with doing continental though. There really isn't. I was a continental girl for a very long time and like it was kind of annoying that everyone was pushing me. But now that you want to learn basket weave, I will give you No. And it looks like you're stitching fast. Like I do see the speed benefit. Um but I just >> Well, the speed benefit. Do you know about this thing called scooping? >> No. >> Okay. So tell me >> it would be a little hard the way that I'm doing this within a regular right now. >> Scooping you basically like the way that you you do like double the stitching. It like cuts your time in half because you would go through you basically don't go up and down. It would just be I can't describe it to you unless you can basket weave because it would be it just doesn't make sense unless advanced level. Yeah, >> it's just But I I did learn scooping over the summer. But I'm just not a big scooper because I'm a stretcher bars girl. You wouldn't like it cuz you're a stretcher bars girl. >> Okay. Well, you we'll we'll do basket weave first. Like some of these things I you do need to learn in person. Like I could watch a million videos of this basket weave and I literally like it won't click in my brain. I don't know what's happening. Um, so it does help. Like I, you know, it would have probably benefited me to like take a course or like do a little like group thing, but like this has been a very like individual hobby. I have to say I really haven't like >> I don't really know many like people in my life that do it. Like Danielle doesn't do it. Katie doesn't do it. I bought Katie a kick cuz I was like I feel like you would like like this cuz she likes like being off her phone and stuff, but I feel like it's >> it's it's kind of in New York I I hold down the hobby for it, you know, like with the needle pointing. Um, >> but it's just like a really wholesome hobby. I've never been like super artsy and I wouldn't say that this is artsy in any sense but like you can be a little creative with picking out the threads and >> and the more time goes on the more creative you become too cuz now I'm like now I see it as such a creative thing like I mean of course now with having the brand to do stuff but like at the beginning I was just it was kind of paint by numbers and now I'm like oh I'll do whatever I want. You know what I mean? Like >> just because it's blue doesn't mean you have to do blue. >> Yes, you can color swap. I didn't know that at the very beginning. >> Yeah. I mean it really is kind of just a guide. It is. It's by numbers. >> Yeah, exactly. You're so >> It's the best thing ever. >> Exactly. >> Guys, I know I've been talking about how my niece also loves this day like three and run. It's one run three in one. Oh, no. Can I speak? It's the cactus day is cactus fruit threein-1 styling cream. I love it. 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But you were just you were so quick. Like you were just going away with it. You and Molly were just stitch. >> It's really I know Molly's stitcher, too. It really It's so meditative. >> Like it's really just the best thing ever. Also, I feel like before we get into this, like we should >> because sometimes people will request like you guys to come on the podcast and stuff and we're like guest requests as if like we don't know each other and haven't done like 17 podcasts together and I forget that like there's new followers that don't know that we've been friends for like >> I think it's like >> how 16. >> Yeah. No, we were 16 or you were 16. I guess I was 17 when we did that first playlist live like in person, but we were friends before that. >> I know. >> Even cuz I remember YouTube video when you was it when you turned 15 or 16? >> 16. >> Yeah, that was such a good vlog. That was like one of my very first ones. It was like, oh my god, that was a crazy crazy time. It looks like it was filmed on like a toaster box. Like >> the fact that we even like were doing that back then is like so crazy because like >> it's crazy. And I used to like get cringe watching my old videos and be like, "Ooh, this is cringe." And now I watch I'm like I like feel bad for her. Like I don't know why. Like [laughter] >> No, I've grown empathy. >> Yeah. Yeah. Now I'm like, "Oh, she doesn't know." Like she, you know, it's okay. What? We didn't know. We didn't know. You know, >> she [laughter] doesn't know. She doesn't know. So >> that's that's growth, I think. >> And Brooke and I, for context, started on YouTube so long ago. I'm actually I was thinking about this this morning. I'm curious if you feel this way cuz I feel like a lot of creators that have come like come up and started in the past couple of years, especially like on TikTok or just started on short form in general. Like for me, I I just feel like because we started sharing our lives and so much about it, like I need to be filming and sharing my life like all the time. But there's so many people who are like, "Yeah, I film one dinner party a month and then that's their whole thing for the whole month." And I'm like, >> "But you're not going to film like your your workout. You're not going to film 100%." Or like or like I feel like I I'm thinking 10 steps ahead. I'm like, "I want to do this thing, but like I have to think about how I'm going to announce it." And like that's not even a thought that goes through other content. They're like, "You I don't know if I'm even going to talk about I'm like, "No, I have to do like a roll out of announcing my move or my like you, you know, you have to really >> we think through our decisions." Yeah. I mean, of course, the engagement drop, you know, you had to think about that. You >> of course, [laughter] of course. No. And I I feel that way, too. I think that we're chronic oversharers. I I feel like I've learned a balance with like other people in my life cuz I've realized that like certain people, >> my fiance doesn't like to be in my videos. He doesn't like to be like on camera. the most supportive behind the camera of course, but like I feel like I've learned boundaries with that stuff. >> Mhm. >> But in terms of me oversharing, I stay oversharing. >> Like it's just that's just how it is. We're used to that. >> But for other people, they just like have their niche and that's it. And I'm like, well, that probably would have been way smarter looking back. >> Oh, 100%. Yeah. Picking one thing. Yeah. Like there are certain people >> I just am not a one thing sort of girl though. That was never going to be me. >> I feel the same way. There's not one thing that I feel so bad. Like if I picked one thing back then, I certainly would not have stuck with it. >> 100%. I also feel lucky that we started on long form because it's so much harder. Like it's way harder. So now doing everything else is like, oh, it's a 30 second video. Like I actually feel very lucky and that we have those audiences cuz those audiences are so >> just like long form audiences just the best. >> I completely agree. No. And now everybody's like, "Yay, new YouTube." I'm like, "But we've been turning these out for like we have a backlog. We're literally with like action. >> Yeah. Like just look back on our channels. We've got a lot there for you. >> Yeah. >> If you're like a new follower, like imagine that you're like, "Yes." Like I've got >> Oh, I hope to god they don't go back and watch my old videos. >> Not the real old, but like you maybe two years to go on. Like you've got a lot you've got a lot to catch up on. >> You've got a lot to catch up on. >> How fun. >> So funny. >> What a journey. >> So when Brooke started doing her needle point, um that was obviously a really high a big high for me. I was so excited about this. And then as time went on and then friend of mine was developing needle point I was like hey so if you want to do a collaboration like we are doing that she was like done and so we designed the I mean this has been done for months. >> Yeah this was like almost beginning of the year I feel like we kind of like got this >> final ball rolling and then we were good to go. So well we had it like just in our calendar just for scheduling purposes and ended up being perfect. We have a ton of canvases. So you guys can just go to shopfriend.com and we have the canvases. We have a ton of needle minders. And then we also have the tote bag. >> Guys, I used this as my carry-on today um on the plane. I absolutely love it. It is a big old tote with nice thick handles. Um a nice pocket on the inside that says Brook Mitch, a friend of mine, but not on the outside, don't worry. And but on the outside there is a little motif, a nod to the collection. >> It's a little embroidered ice cream cone, which is super cute. It's the ice cream cone I'm stitching actually. >> So cute. I've gotten several compliments on this tote today. I have to say thank God. Yes, it definitely is like >> I see you at the airport. >> Yeah, >> like walking around like waiting for someone to like >> By the way, I just I'm pacing back and forth like waiting for someone. Um no, it really fits a ton of stuff. I really really like it. Um I saying that like I feel like if you live in like a city and you're like running your errands like it's a nice tote to be running errands with. >> It's just a fabulous tote. >> Yes. Like what else do I have here? Oh, we actually should tell them what red panic means >> because a lot of people are asking and this is that is a canvas that's for the girls. Like if you know, you know. But like Brooke is going to give you the Oxford Webster dictionary, whatever that name is definition. >> Yeah. Uh so one thing about me is that I'm always like I'm a chronic like I would say like is it anxious? Like I would just say I'm constantly like stressed about something like and little things will stress me out like a bug will stress me out or like if I am like thinking about you know someone's about to walk in in 5 minutes like that would stress me out like I'm just like you know pre-thinking about things that would stress me out. >> She's really honestly always kind of in a state of panic. Like that's really what it is. It's not anxiety. It's >> oh my gosh no my nervous system just has never been relaxed a day in my life. Like honestly I don't know what that's like. You know when people are like I relax my nervous system and I'm like I I I don't know how. >> You were like what you can do that? >> No. And I've done the deep breaths. I've tried the meditation. Don't tell me that. Like I, you know, I've tried. >> The closest I get to it is the shioasa in a hot yoga class. And I'm just I'm like, but then I'm just running through my day. >> That's cuz you're tired. >> Yeah. I'm tired. And I'm like, so what can I do after this? I don't do this. Like Yeah. Um but I was actually It started with my friends from home. Um I was on a bachelorette >> and I like we were split up at different tables and I was just like I feel like they saw it in my eyes and they were like, "Oh my gosh, Brooke, you are always panicked about something." saying one of my friends, she was like, and it literally is like, "How panicked is Brooke today? Is she like a green, a yellow, or a red?" And I took this bid back to Danielle, who I do my podcast with every week, Girls on the Go. >> Girls on the Go. >> Yes. Go listen. Um, and she loved it. She just absolutely loved this bed. She >> Because if you are friends with Brooks, it is the best way to describe her. There is no better way to describe you other than what zone of panic you are in. >> Yeah. And and maybe you don't know that. Like I feel like I show it my personality and stuff of course, but like if it happens in like normal interactions with things. Oh, I I said something awkward to the waiter or oh I tripped and like fell a little bit in front of these people like I you know said something weird whatever. So that's how Red Panic started because it kind of then it became a bit of our live shows honestly. Girls on the Go live shows like people ran with it there >> and it just became kind of like a nod to Gals on the go at this point like we liked it. >> Yeah. It's really like Brook's thing though. Like it's very much so like even in our normal life though if we're hanging out we'll be we'll something will happen. We'll look at each other we go red panic. >> Panic. [laughter] Yeah. >> It's just become a thing and like it's not even just >> the show like it it's just a thing. >> Yeah. No, it's just a thing. Like it's not It could be all over our bed. Like really? Yeah. Cuz people are like, "Why would I want a pill?" Like it's like it's kind of just like silly. It's like oh like panic like oh my gosh. It's like but it's like kind of funny cuz it's like you're not actually panic. Like it's you're panic about something so stupid. Like oh my gosh I'm like a weirdo. I was awkward before like Yeah. It's not that deep. I just am always worried about stuff. So [laughter] >> that's that. Yeah. >> Broo just lives in a state of panic and red panic is just like the worst that it could be. >> Exactly. That's like Yeah. That's the highest level. >> That is the highest level. People told said I didn't even like maybe I post on my story something about like if I did a needle point collection what would you want and people did say red panic and we'll see how that we'll see how it sells. >> Yeah, we'll see how it goes. We'll see how it goes. We just needed to explain it to some I think like newbies. >> Of course. Of course. Yes. And then all the other stuff is really like fun. And I feel like we didn't really go for like a specific like I mean the theme is like I guess treats like we kind of went for like that like candy pickles like ice cream just like I wanted like >> it's everything that like Brooke loves basically. >> Yeah. Yeah. No, literally >> when we do collections with people we are always thinking like when we did Harrison's it's like all of those things were modeled after like even like the grocery tote was like literally out of after his exact grocery tote. Like everything is based around like what they like. So, it was just like perfect, >> natural, great fit. Yeah, I know. And I tried to like think of some designs that were like not somewhat out of the box because I feel like, you know, you go into these needle point stores, you shop online, whatever. Um, and I feel like the big candy one is definitely like I have not seen that done at least. >> I love that one. >> Me too. Me too. And I feel like people are going to get really creative with the threads and stuff on that. >> I know. I'm excited to see those finished. That's the best part about releasing new collections is seeing everyone's stuff. People are so creative. Like the way I'm like, "Oh, I would have never even thought to do that." >> Really? >> With different types of stitches. >> Yeah, different types of stitches, color swapping, like the way that they have it finished. It's just like so fun. >> Oh, I'm so excited about that. Yeah, I need to get more creative with the finishing ideas cuz I've seen people do like trays and uh What else can you do besides just pillows and like door hanger? Like I need to get a little >> The one thing that I think I just like one day I'm sure I'll be looking back at this be like, "Haha, that's a joke." Cuz you have like 15 of these. But the only thing I'm like not dying to do is like a brick cover because I don't like use bricks. >> What cover? >> A brick cover. Have you seen those? They're like real like >> Oh. Oh. Is it like just >> like a doors stop basically, >> but it's like on top of a brick, but they have it for so many things. And I mean I'm saying that now and then I'll I'm probably like 3 months from now I'll be like So I'm obsessed with brick covers and I have them everywhere. Um there's just like so many different ways that you can have them finished. And also I feel like in wear as far as like wearable stuff we've been like I don't know. No, I just think like Needle Point is really heading in an exciting direction because things are like just getting a lot more creative as there's naturally as there's like a lot more people doing it. >> It's obviously at like such a peak. I This is thread from like this is how I know that this is thread from like three or four years ago is because it's so now I have an organization system. I'll show you what I do. I'll give you a tutorial. It's actually very easy. But that's how I know. I'm like, "Oh, well, whatever." Yeah, cuz mine is in I I kind of want to swap it to this tote bag, but I just have a tote bag in my closet that I like pull out and it's just a mess. >> It's a mess. Yeah, >> my actual project bag right now is a mess, but the way that I do the threads has gotten better >> cuz also I've like tried to actually stitch from my stash. >> I see. You know, >> well, that's good. I know cuz I I've been trying to like practice some restraint, too. I'm like I have so many especially now with this collection. I'm like, please >> let's do let's do some of the ones that you designed, Brooke. Let's not need to go to the store. >> Literally, I know I'm like I literally own a needle point brand and I'm still shopping. >> I really I will say like 95% of the time I'm stitching our designs. >> But that's also cuz we have like so many at all times. >> I will say also if you're new and you're like, "Oh, I don't know like what to do, but I like want to get into this." Like literally I would buy one of these and bring it to your LNS, your local needle point store, and literally just say like, "Can you help me?" And they will kit it for you, which essentially means like helping you pick out the correct threads. They could even help you with the stretcher bars. If you say like, "I've heard about these stretcher bars." They can help you with that. I Some are more helpful than others. I've been to like some needle point stores where they're like, "Oh, girl, we're going to do you up." You know, and they like literally just set up the project for me, which is so nice. The Splendid Stitch in the Hamptons, shout out to them. They like legit >> I went and it was like still on my newer >> Yeah. >> part of my journey and she hooked it up. >> No, it's really nice to find someone who's like very nice and they need a point space, but also like a lot of the time they'll just teach you a stitch on the spot too if they're not busy. Yeah. No, and it was so sweet like in the store there was like, you know, people that were like real like trying all sorts of like really funky stitches and like so community. I I do really like that even though I'm like not going to necessarily like events like the online community with it is really cool. >> It is very cool. Like it's very I've also made cuz like I didn't have any friends that were stitching until now. Every single friend of mine stitches like a whole group in Dallas. Every single one needle points. Like we are always needle pointing. But that's because I made the group of friends that I wanted to see. I converted them all. They all have been Kinsey Peeled is what we say cuz they're playing maong. They're needle pointing, you know, they're doing the whole thing. But I've made a lot of friends in the world, too. And it's just like fun. And you get to connect with people from like different generations. >> That is so fabulous. Should we get into some like bridal things? >> Um, yeah. I think that would be so because we literally got engaged like uh within a month of each other. >> Yeah. I think you texted me and it was I think I got engaged 2 weeks later. >> Wow. And you knew like you were like, "Hey, >> I like knew I was going to be engaged." Like I like didn't I wasn't like shocked, >> but also there was only one weekend that it would work logistically because of everyone's travel. So like then I just knew it would be that because I knew that >> he wouldn't do it without Dom or without my sister and they were both only in town that one weekend. >> So I was like obviously it's going to happen then. >> I get it. I get it. when you set certain parameters when you're like this person has to be there or this like you're kind of setting it up in a way for like less >> whim surprise I guess or like complete like shock. >> Yeah. And I had a date too that he couldn't propose before like I was like you literally have to wait until at least after this date and I knew it would be like right then. >> I kind of said that too now that looking back on it but then I like took it back and then he was like it's kind of too late cuz I wanted to wait till after. I had a bunch of friends weddings and I was like, "Let's just wait till they're over." And then like in the middle of them I was like, "You know what? We can just do it. >> You're gonna surprise right." >> And then and then he waited. And it was literally the week after and but I was still so caught off guard. I don't know why. [laughter] That was the parameter that I gave. I was like, "Wait till after these." And then it was I was like, "Are you serious?" Like [laughter] no way. I also It's like Charlie and I spent so much time together too because we live together and we work together. So it would just be so >> hard. Like there was just no world in which I wasn't and just my personality type. Like there was no world. And I also to be honest did not want to be surprised because like I don't my hair does not look good every day and I needed like the fresh blowout. >> Oh, I get it. Yeah. >> Like that needed to happen. I was just absolutely not. >> Mine was somewhat well timed. Actually, my hair does not look good every day either, but there was like a convenient timing thing with the day before I had like a video interview thing. So I had I had gotten like a spray tan for it and like a ton of things like so it was like really lined up. That's actually amazing. >> I know. I know. And then I remember like I had my makeup done and he had said something. He was like, "Oh, is this like the only time like now now looking back like he was like, "Oh, is this the only time like you're going to get your makeup done like this week?" I was like, "I get my makeup done like once a quarter." Like you know what I mean? Like I don't do that a lot. But I could tell he was like, "Oh, darn." Like I feel like she would like it would have been perfect so much better if Yeah. cuz that would have been like really lined up. But it was >> it was perfect. It was No complaints. No, I know what you mean, though. on the hair thing. I definitely would have tried harder on my makeup if I knew. I was like giving like I was like, "Okay, this is a no mascara day." [laughter] >> Probably would have added a little, you know. >> Yeah. >> Looking back, >> my favorite era of Brooke is you now on the treadmill with the like wedding old vintage wedding magazines, like the whole like I'm obsessed with this. >> I love leaning into it. I love >> You're so much more locked in than I am. You inspire me. I need to be that way. >> Yeah. No, I want to do everything. I I Yeah, [laughter] >> that's like literally how I feel though. And I used to be the antithesis of this and be like he loves you for who you are. And now I just am like I see like I like having a goal like I just talked about. I need a goal. So like >> it's something for you to work on. Like you can you can you know what it is? It's you have so much energy and that's where the panic comes from. And you can now channel your energy into this wedding instead of your red panic. And you'll have red panic during the wedding though. >> Exactly. into like bettering, you know, myself and to I and I I do have a wedding planner because I just I mean it would be a disaster if I tried to plan that thing myself. Let's be honest. [laughter] Like that would be really bad. Um, but I think with the balance of like having wedding planners or having like help on that side, then I'm able to like lean more into like myself like poor to that cup I guess, you know, so that it's it's all over the >> Well, we are in our bridal era as I'm sure y'all have heard on today's episode and I love Over the Moon. I actually loved Over the Moon before I even got engaged because it was a really great place to find like new and emerging and up and cominging designers as well as like a ton of staples that are household names of course. But that one necklace that I have, I always reference this one, but it's like the colorful ball necklace. 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The only reason the we did that it seems like we did it super quick but the only reason was because in order we wanted to I knew we wanted to get married next year >> and the only week that we had or not even week two days that we had that were open the whole summer because of stitch tour and all of our like work travels was like a month laterally. So we were like we have to go we were on the call with our planner she's like all right so we have to go next week like it was that quick. >> Yeah. So, we went and toured and then we decided on our venue and then she's like, "Okay, we can wait until basically this month." And she's like, "We have to get back to it." Like, I have meetings next week now. >> I've had my design meeting and I now I'm like I want to like I just feel like this summer was like the busiest summer of my life. So, I'm like I need to be >> I get that >> in it. Like I want to be like present and do everything and whatever. What are your thoughts on showers? >> I like I see the use case for it for like 99% of people, but I feel like I don't know. I can't speak for you, but I feel like I'm the 1% that like doesn't need it just because I I've been >> I think if you've been living with your person for a long time and you kind of already have like your home established together, all of your stuff >> like I don't there's I don't need more stuff. And I feel like the point of a shower a lot of the times is like you know new home together. Oh, we're going to get you all the and the registry makes so much sense to me. It's like yeah, literally it's the one time in life where you get to ask for whatever you want for your house. You could ask for all the nicest blenders and serving things. is like you could literally get a hosting closet like you know >> I think it's so smart but I I feel very blessed that like I uh >> you know kind of have that I mean I literally have no more room like you know and so so that's sort of how I feel on it but I would possibly get behind the idea of like getting everybody together I kind of like like a bridal lunchon maybe more. >> Yeah that's my Okay. So like when it came down to showers and how I'm like pretty like I just it's you know who had an amazing shower was Sierra. Sierra had an amazing shower and it was really small and intimate and it was like probably the only shower that I've actually like had the best time ever at like most showers I just feel like they're the the worst time of the day. Everyone's tired. You just sit there. It's like pleasantries. It's not very fun. Like I've never really had fun outside of Sierra's. I mean I'm sure I have and like people listening this offended but like I just think there's more fun ways to spend your time than a shower. >> That's how I feel too. And a lot of the games like I they're so not me. Like >> oh I'm not doing any games. That's another reason why Sierra shower is amazing. No games. >> Love that. I get behind some games, but it's like the who's like his or hers. Like I'm like why does anyone care? >> Yeah. I don't I don't want to do this. >> Yeah. It's like who wakes up, who's early, who's late. Like you know, it's like I literally don't care. Like I you know that's so great for you guys and your relationship. Like it's just like >> personally I understand the whimsy in it though. And I do like I just love gathering people together. So like that idea of it. And my mom just went to a shower and I know she's like eager to like want to do that for me. Like she's like it was really nice. It was like so wholesome and you know I'm like I let's do something but not >> that's that's where I'm at. I wanted to cuz then also I wasn't even thinking then my mom was like well you don't even need a shower and I was like I never had really like clocked that the reason people have shower like obviously to shower people with gifts but like I just >> you never really thought about it like that. >> I'm also like I don't have a ton of friends that are married either. So like I'm like really feel like a child bride. Like I am like wow. >> Is that like bad to say? >> No. Not people find if you find that annoying, I'm sorry. Like that's >> I I just feel like really young. Like none of my even like growing up in Texas, like I don't have friends that are married, so I didn't I have I've gone to like ironically had more friends in college who got married. I've gone to like some of that, but I just like I don't know. I've thrown showers, but it didn't really I just thought we were getting over together. It didn't like clock to me for whatever reason that obviously that's the purpose is for gifts. And I was like, "Oh, I really don't need that cuz we're so lucky because we get so much PR." >> So >> that was I don't know. So now I'm like trying to reinvent showers. It's been something that I've been wanting to do for quite some time because I just think that we need to and Harrison feels very passionately about this with me as well. Yes. So we need to think about something that we could do. I like lunchons better. I think that's better. Um I remember Pton Sarton did like a dinner party. I thought that was cute. But I just like don't know what I want to do. That's the issue. >> Yeah. And I I'm doing a longer engagement. So I like the idea of like spreading the events out. Like to me that sounds nice. like doing an engagement party next year bachelorette may and then like the following year like maybe earlier in the year shower and then wedding like kind of spacing it out so it's like >> more tent pull events I guess. >> Yeah. And you get I mean cuz you Well, I guess should we talk about how [laughter] >> Okay. Because apparently like you getting married in 2028 >> is like crazy. Yeah. >> Why are people acting like that was the most insane thing ever? >> I don't know. I mean, it was like so split. Like some people were like, "Oh, girl, like yeah, I'm doing that, too." Honestly, the venue that I want, like the venue that I'm about to book, the only date that they have is like a date in late October of next year. And I the place like it's like a summer wedding place. Like I don't I don't want to do that. So >> you can't do that. >> And I found the per like I'm very happy with the like I absolutely love it. No notes. So, I'm like this is I mean that even further solidifies my decision of like like I was already leaning towards 2028, but then it was like I mean if the place is only available then >> then what's a girl to do? >> Yeah, totally. Um I don't know. I I've kind not that I feel like a child bride. I definitely would say I'm like in the middle of all my friend groups and stuff, but I'm just not and this sounds bad because people are going to probably say like, "Oh, I just can't wait to marry my husband. I cannot wait to marry my fiance as well." Like I truly can't. But I just feel like we already live a very conjoined life. >> You're just in a rush. Like it's >> Yeah. I I think that's more so what it is. He's also extremely busy. He's a resident physician. So I think like it's stages of life, too. Like you know, I that's like his focus right now. Like we're both like in a very like career era. So we're like, "Hey, if we spread out, if we do a longer engagement, we're not going to be less stressed." Um I don't know. I just don't like I just didn't think anything of it. And then I realized that but what is there's no like right or wrong. >> No, but it was B. I just felt like it was actually insane. And like this is just me. I'm always like more mad like angry for Brooke than Brooke is. But like it was so crazy the way that people because what it would be at that point it's like a 2-year engagement. >> Yeah. >> I don't I feel like that's like a normal time. Like we will have like around a year and a half >> and people were acting like ours was so long. >> I'm like how is that long? I'm like I have to plan a wedding. Like if it were up to Charlie we would have been married like a year ago. and we had were barely dating at that point. Like he is so like just wants to be married and is happy with everything. So he was like, "Well, we could probably get married this year." I'm like, "Are you actually okay?" Like he doesn't understand what it takes to like plan a wedding and he will cuz he's so involved. >> But it was just one of those things where I'm like, "That is crazy." Like how is that a lot? Like >> how is it a long Yeah. And I don't like things to be on a rushed timeline. Like I I know the dresses it's red panic. And I just know for me personally like my personality like I like having that long goal. Yeah. I like that like I it doesn't need to be like one you know nine months let's get it together like I that would stress me more out than having this long time. People say that it's like more time to like you know ponder decisions makes it like more I don't I just completely for me personally I disagree like I think that it will also my opinions I know will change and that kind of like gives me time to like form new ones sort of >> cuz I don't know if I would have planned this the same wedding two years ago that I would today. Do you think you would? >> You're pretty like solid in your taste. I feel like you have >> like [snorts] where we're getting married though isn't like my favorite place ever in the world ironically even though everyone assumed that it is. It was completely venue dependent and honestly no because the the actual place that we're having our ceremony. I hadn't even thought about getting married in a place like that. >> Yeah. >> Until we were touring this pa this space and we passed it and I was like, "Wait, that's cool." And I went and I thought about it that or I didn't I saw a video that morning and I was like, "Oh, that's actually like really chic." And then I went in that morning and I was like, "This is the sign. We'll do it." Like that was kind of it. And the venue itself, like where we're doing everything else after is really great, but >> um no, probably not. But also, I'm trying like I don't want to get into this whole like timeless wedding thing. I just want to do whatever I want to do. Like that's just adding so much more stress to you. Just do what you like to do. >> No, I feel the same. I'm I'm doing color. I'm doing like, you know, like I'm having Katie Blotty help me with the font on certain things. Like I don't care about, you know, people are like and everything has to be crisp, clean, like whatever. I'm not. No, I don't. >> And it like doesn't even look like you like at least especially cuz there's a difference too between like going for the trends or going for what you like at that time. And honestly, I mean there's no right or wrong with anything, but if you're going at least with like what you like, even if it is trendy, like I'm ever I mean I always like things that are trendy. like always. Sorry. Like it's a reason point. >> Yeah. Literally in 2025 and not >> and not in 2015. Like Yeah. >> Yeah. Like >> I'm not as basic as they come for sure. [laughter] >> Yeah. Like that's why I That's why the wedding place I like is booked up for next year. It's pretty basic. Like it's everybody else likes it too, I guess. You know, [laughter] like >> they like it for a reason. That's why I'm always like everyone's like basic this, basic that. I'm like at least it's it's good. >> It actually makes me feel good. I'm like oh goody. Like I picked a good one. [laughter] Like safe. Yeah, >> Mark's safe though. Literally. >> Yeah, >> literally. No, but I'm trying. I don't want to be like so focused on the whole timeless thing and and like I don't know. I also just think it's not another not to bring up Sierra again, but my friend Sierra just got married, another influencer. She's the best. You're actually going to see her tonight by the way. >> Um she's the best. But she said to me that >> we might need to call her. Actually, let me see. Actually, she's at a hair appointment right now. Um >> you know, I love how you know her schedule. She texted me cuz she was trying to come here before. >> So she said that the wedding is different than the marriage that is different from something else and I I don't know what it is and I don't know what it was but basically. >> Yeah. >> I hope you guys like that really good piece of advice that I shared. >> That's beautiful. Uh thank you for that. No [laughter] >> a prime example of like to hide the mics from people. >> Yeah. Yeah. They're like okay who gave these girls? >> Yes. But she was basically saying that like my wedding is not my marriage which is different. I think she's like then my relationship like those are all different things. She's like so when I was able to kind of like like mentally visualize them as separate things and the wedding is a celebration because like the wedding will stress you out that isn't your marriage. That isn't your like rel. You know what I'm saying? >> For sure. No, I feel the same way. And also you and I like >> I mean you you have a hosting closet. Like you like having parties. I I too like having parties. Not even necessarily at my house, but I like I just like even renting out a bar and having a party. Like I we like doing this stuff. So, it makes sense that we would want to have >> weddings that are I mean it's not even that mine is big in numbers, I would say, but just like >> How many people are you doing? >> I'm going to try for 175. >> We're doing 200. >> Yeah, we were. >> Did you already make the list? >> Um >> like a loose list. >> Let's talk about lists. >> Okay. >> How are you deciding on who gets invited to the wedding? >> We're not doing like a hard and fast rule. Like we're not either. >> Yeah. No, I don't do the like anybody can get a plus one if they have a person that they like seriously want to bring or I think if a person's coming alone from like across the country like my manager will get a plus one% >> you can bring someone >> 100% for sure. >> Um I think we're kind of going to both make our lists and then see where we're at numbers wise and maybe work backwards. But we have a long engagement too. So like friendships change. If once again two years ago if I made my list there there would be differences. >> Totally. We made our list like before we got engaged because we were just trying to like go through numbers. We were just going through numbers and at first I was like I want like 115. I think I said 150 actually >> and then we made the list and like a list that was actually like very difficult for us to like and we were getting people off was 250. But the problem is that Charlie and I have both lived so many different life phases and have moved around and keep up with people and like are just people people. So it's really difficult. And also it's like Charlie went to Venova, then he went to the Army and all that and it's like I lived a bunch of places. I went to college. I went to like >> so that is hard. Um but I'm not doing the whole like I mean look so many of my friends live in different cities. I can't do the whole if we haven't had dinner in the past year, you're not invited. Like that cannot happen. I understand people who have like lived in the same place forever and like I get it. I actually do get that. But look, we just like logistically speaking cannot do that. >> No, I Yeah, I have a lot of most of my friends at this point are long distance, so like I completely agree. >> Um, someone said like a good rule is like could you call them in and not be weird? >> Yeah, I think that's good. >> And I feel like that's like just like a internal like concept to reflect on maybe with certain people [laughter] like I'm like, "Huh?" Like, yeah, would it be? But I don't know. There's like certain people that it's like long friendships that just like you know maybe we're not as close but like you're going to be at my wedding like you know who I'm talking family friends and things like that. >> So no I don't think we're trying to do like rules. We're not doing a wedding party. >> I know we should talk about that. I am barely >> I and do whatever you I don't also don't we don't have um like I don't have a sister. He doesn't have a brother. We each have he is an older sister and I have a younger brother. But we're like that. We're going to like get them involved that way. But we I feel like I don't have I mean Danielle's going to be my mate of honor. That's like who I have. Yeah. But it's not like I have like this big family where it's like, >> you know, we're all going to be in it. You know what I mean? I I guess I I didn't >> And I wasn't like in my cousin's wedding. Like I didn't have that. >> Yeah. I also think like with wedding parties, as someone who's like having one technically, but we're not doing a lot of the traditional things with that. But like I do think that they're cheoogy and outdated and it does feel weird to like rate your friendships and to like I don't like that aspect at all. But like I'm only doing six and it was like I either did six or I did 17 >> and it was three of her family and the other three are like Molly, Dom, and Macy. So it's like you're like I'm not doing it in that and I don't want anyone standing up with us. We're not doing I don't want anyone planning anything either because like I just feel like that's another job >> on them and like I know what I want and I just don't need that. Good for you. I don't want to do I just think that like the pressure that is added to people when they're in weddings is like miserable. Like I don't want anyone to feel that way about my wedding. >> I I feel that way too. I think I I've seen it done where people get jobs on the day of >> I'm like what what do you mean a job? Like we're we're at a wedding. Like yeah on a job. And of course I would do anything for my friends. Like don't get me wrong. Like if a friend was like, "You're on video duty." Like I'm taking that damn video and I'm doing a good job at that. Like >> and I'm locking in. I >> don't worry. It'll be the best video you've ever seen. No. But I think I also feel like we have planners which is really nice that relieves some of the stress load. I think if you don't have like a day of coordinator, I completely would understand like leaning more on the bridal party. I think cuz I think that's like a really chaotic thing with like the timing and like what to do. >> Um >> that's another thing though I didn't even really realized with bridesmaids until cuz again like this is how uninvolved I've been in weddings my whole life is that I didn't really realize that bridesmaids were like there to like help you. >> Yeah. No, that's >> I thought they were just there to like celebrate and hang out. Like I didn't know that they were like I'm like, "Oh, I don't need that. I just want them to come and like have fun. Like I don't need." And also I needle pointed each one of them a bag. So that helped me keep my number low cuz I was like I can't do that. I really can't. Like >> I was inspired. >> I couldn't do that. That was just not happening. >> No, I felt that way too. I mean, I literally have like like the group of people that I'm going to invite probably on my bachelorette like probably would be my like I I have, you know, I have that group, but once again, I wasn't I was never into the all wearing matching dresses or even the color palette for me. Like it's just >> you one thing about Brooke and like Danielle and I have like pranked her so many times. There's no one in this world who hates matching more than Brooke. And >> I know I don't know why I'm like it's like a weird egg I've always had. you. But you are like it's red panic to the max when there's m matching. >> I don't know. It feels embarrassing. >> Like I don't know why it does. Like if you walked out in the same outfit today, you could own it. You could wear it tomorrow. But like the fact that we both would be showing up to an event in the same outfit like I to me I'd be like this feels weird. >> No, Brooke would like freak out. That's why it's like imagining you with people like matching bridesmaids is like insane. Like that would never work. >> I don't know why. And you guys roast me for that. I don't know. I feel like that's like a that's always just been me. >> It's that and you need like me time and you can't sit next to anyone that you know on the plane. Like it's that >> No, I have like weird like internal rules, you know? >> Yeah. [laughter] Have internal rules. >> I do. Yeah. No, I run a strict program with myself. >> You do run a strict program and I respect [laughter] it. >> Like the stupidest stuff. Like it's not like I'm waking up at 6:00 every day. Like, you know, like I needed hour. I don't have my needle point hour. Maybe I should. >> It's just good for my mental. I have to. Good. I'll like pick up my needle point at like 2 p.m. though and then it's like all of a sudden I'll blink and it's like 5:00 and it's like oh shoot my work today I pushed that aside and then I like am up till mid like I I make no sense you know >> so maybe it would make more sense to do the needle point out in the morning then to avoid the like you know time problems later. >> Um >> but yeah I think it's like and I've been in weddings I think it's lovely I think it's so I do think it's nice day of if you're into that to get ready with your friends. I once again I feel very lucky because we've had a lot of like life experiences that have been like I don't want to say similar to a wedding but we've had live show. >> I completely agree. I think that that's a big thing is that I've had so many event like I'm over myself and I've had so many events that like had to do with me that I'm like I that's why I feel like >> and it does sound crazy to say but I'm like I get why this is the biggest day ever to other people and not that like anything isn't that big of a deal or whatever but like I don't really need another thing that's like about me. You know what I mean? >> No, I get it. Well, I I I feel like I just know how to run the show though at this point cuz literally it's literally a live show without but Danielle's still involved. So like actually on the go live show [laughter] basically. >> Um no cuz she's speaking so yeah like it pretty much is now I think about it. >> She'll have a mic. >> Yeah. And getting ready I know like when we're getting ready for live shows and like some of them we had like all of our friends and family there to get ready and it stressed me out so much and we both would get so anxious and that was like you know the time that we were like getting the most nervous. But when it was like just me, Danielle, Michelle, and my mom, like loved the best vibes, chill, you know? Yep. >> So, I just know the energy that I like and that's all like preference. >> Um like I think getting ready with like 20 people, >> I see the fun in it. But I for me, I would just >> I would be red panic. That would be red panic for me. >> Red panic. It would not >> Yes. So, you have to figure that out. Like I feel like for for yourself, I see I see really all sides. Um, I still feel like I'm going to like have my friends come early, but then again, I'm like, is that going to spoil the outfit? [laughter] >> I know >> cuz I want them to like take pictures and I don't want to be like taking pictures. I want to I want to be present in my wedding as well. >> I know. I really don't want to feel like it's a ton of like that. And I know it's like >> I'm someone who's like so nostalgic and I care so much about like photos and videos from the nostalgic aspect, not really like the Instagram. Even like I have every and it sounds crazy. He's like, "I have every dinner party shot, but I have that shot because I spend so much time and effort and we have the best nights ever and then I never have photos and I want those memories." Like I need especially it's like a grief thing. It's like I need those photos because like that's all you have at the end of the day. >> So, but it's like I don't want to spend like when I see people like they're gone their whole cocktail hour, which is normal. Like that's what you do. You take photos and they have a cocktail hour and I'm like but I wouldn't be at the cocktail hour. >> Yeah. >> I'm like wait what? Like that makes me like >> that's what that's why I think we I mean we definitely would do the first look. Like we'll do that. So, I feel like we would take our pictures before and then to be present at the cocktail hour. I mean, this is like loose concept, so like I haven't like, you know, sat and gone through it, but I think I've gone to enough weddings to be like, >> "Oh, I like that they did like I like that they were at the cocktail hour cuz I got to talk to them." >> Um, I like that they came over to our table dinner cuz I got to see them. Like I I the best thing at a wedding is like when the couple's present in my opinion. Like that's the best experiences that I've had as a guest. Even if it's legit one minute, thank you for coming. Oh my god, it's so good to see you. Let's take a photo. Bye. like it means a lot to the guests who come all the way out to see you. They're traveling. They're taking time off of their busy lives. They're, you know, getting a babysitter, whatever. Like, it's a lot. >> That's why I think a welcome party is great. >> Love a welcome party >> because then you can see everyone like I don't want to be stressed with having especially if it's like >> friends of family that like I don't know at all. Like I don't want to waste like not waste like that sounds rude, but like if it's my wedding day, I want to spend it with like the people that like I you know what I mean? if you're having to spend like an hour of a wedding day that you'll never get back like meeting people that you've never met before and you probably will never meet again which like I feel pretty strongly so does Charlie like we both are on the same page about invite lists and stuff but like that's something where I'm like oh that would actually set me off like that I know myself and that would actually like I would go crazy a welcome party especially I think if there's like situations like that that would be great >> cuz I want to have said and seen every single person and I'm sure you will at the wedding but just to like just for like security >> completely Yeah. And I also am a fan of uh some speeches. Like I love speeches at a wedding, but I think you you can't have like it gets to a point where it's like I need to give me a beat. Like I need a music to dance to. Like I'm itching to get on the dance floor. So I think you have to cap it and maybe have some on the welcome. Split it up. >> How many speeches is too many speeches at a wedding? >> That's a good question. Okay. Well, I think you have like a a parental figure. Give one. Maybe from both sides if you really feel inclined. And then I would say a best man and a maid of honor and then like so I would say three honestly. >> Yeah. You know Charlie wants like 10. And I think it's like so insane. He's like no well this person has to and this person has to I'm like cuz he Here's the problem with Charlie. Charlie's everyone's favorite person. So he was in everyone's wedding and he's given a speech at everyone's wedding. People that he doesn't even like really he's not like super close with this to this day. >> He gives a good I could see him. >> Oh he gives an amazing speech. Like the best speech you've ever heard. That's why he gets all these speeches at weddings. And then he's like thinks that he has to ask all of them back to do these speeches. And I'm like over my dead body are we doing >> you don't have to. You don't have to. >> Said no way. That's not happening. But that's been our only thing that we've disagreed upon. >> That's so funny >> for that. I'm like no that cannot happen. Like I've given speech like I can't you can't do that. There's no way. I'm like everyone will hate our wedding because there's too many speeches. >> I think welcome party you could give a lot. But I I know what you mean though because it breaks up like the party. I'm struggling with that too. Like is it rehearsal dinner? Is it welcome party? But I would like there to be some sort of opportunity for like more friends to give quicker speeches rather than like the long speeches, you know? >> Yes. My dad gave the most incredible speech ever at my sister's wedding. And he all week was like, "Yeah, I don't even have it written. I have no idea." He's like, "I I'll figure it out. Like we'll see." And he was like he was acting like I genuinely was like nervous for his speech because it seemed like he was so unprepared and like it was going to be bad. And my I forget my dad like spoke like was like led meetings his whole life. So I'm like, and it was the best speech ever. Like everyone was like, everyone was crying. It was beautiful and amazing and whatever. So >> did he have anything written down? >> Yeah, he did write it down, but he was just like I think he was just being hard on himself. >> Yeah, >> that or he was just like hustling us knowing it was amazing. >> You got to That's like a sales tactic. Like he was in sales. I don't I don't know about this speech and then it's like best speech ever. I love that. Maybe I'll go with that. Um no, I've actually never been asked to give a speech at what I'm waiting. So if anybody [laughter] I think I would give a good one. So, if anybody, you know, wants to, I'm available. Um, >> you're open for business. >> I am. Um, you know, whatever. >> I mean, totally. It's also like really nerve-wracking, though. Like, you can't I enjoy the weddings that I don't have to do like give a speech at way more than the weddings that I do. Like, not that I've given like so many, but it's like >> I gave a speech at my cousins and my sisters and then another and my sister my cousins was the rehearsal dinner though. So, but even then I'm like I just >> I don't know. Oh, it's so You have to think about it all day. >> Yeah. And you don't want to drink too much before. >> Exactly. And I'm like, you know, I want to drink. >> I I get it. So then you have to like And you're thinking I I get I completely get that. And then afterwards I feel like they get so drunk the people who give the speeches always cuz like they'll >> Yeah. Yeah. >> You're like, I need like 15 drinks and everyone gives you a shot. Um are you pro private vows or like ceremony vows? >> I think it once again depends on the couple. >> But for you, I mean the >> We're going to do private. I like I would have actually been shocked if you would have said public. >> Yeah. >> Um I think like the emotional stuff like I can be a very emotional person but like I feel like that's like private stuff and honestly public like I'm fine with the officient like throwing in a few like anecdotes about us. You know we're going to get married by a rabbi but he's like a cool rabbi. I mean they're always cool rabbis but like you know he actually knows us which I think is really cool. Um so he'll I'm hoping that he'll >> there's also nothing better than a cool rabbi. >> So cool >> cuz like they're cooler than other people. I can't really describe it. Like there's something about them that's there's this rabbi that the Foster sisters have on their podcast. I think they married Aaron actually and Simon. Um and I I don't even know his name, but I like love when they have him on the podcast cuz he's like so funny. >> We I went um I actually am like down to have a friend officiate. Like I >> I think it's personal. I I'm personally a fan of it. I think once again that's the couple >> if I was Jewish, I would have a rabbi do it. It's like that that was important to Ben and I feel like there were like I felt indifferent about it. You know what I mean? Like that was something that I was like I don't really care. Like it's not you know a give or take for me as long as it's like personal. My big thing was like I don't want it to feel impersonal. >> Yes. >> So this is some but this is someone that I know. I've met him before. Like it you know he's like and we have two years to like get to know each other even better. >> Yeah. >> I just don't want it to be the standard. Like I want to know a little bit of what he's going to say maybe. >> Yeah. You don't you want to you want to proof what? >> A little customization. >> A little customization. I actually think and I never thought I would be this person ever. But I actually think that we're going to do like ceremony vows, which is like I did not expect that. >> I could see you do you two together though cuz you guys are so in love. Like I see. >> But here's the problem is that like everything that Charlie says to me sounds like wedding vows and I know his are going to be better. So it's actually going to like piss me off. Like Macy said that if we do it cuz even Macy was like, "Are you sure you want [laughter] to do it? >> You should have someone review them." So Macy said she's going to read them before and let me know if I need to make mine better. >> I think that that's wonderful. I think that that's >> and he would like call Macy to like rehearse them anyway. Like he would like talk like that wouldn't be an issue with her knowing like he'd be like what do you think about this and whatever. >> So like if she if he needed help or something like she would definitely be someone that he would like trust her opinion. >> But I the only reason I mean there's two reasons. One the fact that his would be a lot better than mine cuz he's also a lot more emotional and a lot more romantic than I am. I'm like way less any of those things. And then the other issue would be the fact that I don't want it to be in the same way where I'm like I was nervous all day for like doing people's wedding speeches. I don't want to be like nervous and like but I kind of think I won't be like >> the more that I'm like saying it out loud. I'm like I actually like speak publicly all the time. Like I know it's like way more important but >> it's people that like I like it's going to be like y'all and like you know what I mean? People I've known forever >> 100%. No, I really I really think it's so couple dependent. I think it it's it's it's >> I just never thought it would be me. I'm like shocked >> really. But I feel like I see that for you just because of the public speaking component of it. And I feel like I see for him because like he is like more like emotional I think. And not that you're not, but I think he he like wears his emotion on his sleeve. Like I feel like I see that for him even in the limited times we out. >> Yeah. >> He's definitely way more and I'm way more like >> okay, you know? So as long as his aren't better than mine, like we'll be fine. >> I think that's great. And I think Yeah. Some couples like they're both like legit just so witty and so like you know I'm like you have to share with the class like I need to know your vows. >> Yeah. Like I need to hear this like not again not to bring up Sierra but Sierra's vows were beautiful too. Everyone was crying. >> I'm sure >> it was really beautiful. >> Um yeah >> she killed it. >> I Gretchen and Max's were my favorite vows that I've seen and they were like they they came from a notebook you know like they I was like oo this is going to be a good one. [laughter] >> You see that notebook come out. Woo. >> That's good. Yeah. Not I and I'm a fan of a typed speech, but for vows >> Yeah. >> Oh, that notebook is feeling good. >> That notebook is That notebook is exactly what we need. Let's see. Other um [sighs and gasps] Okay. Vibes, themes. Are there like what are you going to share about your wedding beforehand? Like are you going to share like vibe and stuff? >> Yeah, I I think enough of it. I I because I definitely want to show like the planning process um somewhat. I feel like I don't know if I'm going to show my linens per se, but like I feel like I would be like, "Oh, here are the options of the linens." Or like, "Oh, I'm going linen shopping today." Like, that sort of thing. Uh, just cuz as a consumer, I would be curious. I feel like a lot of times people say nothing about their wedding and then drop it and it's just everything. >> Yeah. >> So, I would say like a little hint, but I guess you don't want to spoil too much. Dress 100%. Obviously, not sharing. Yeah. And not even show like I I don't need to even show like where I'm shopping like or if I do share like it will be like completely so different than what I end up >> choosing. I'm fine with sharing shopping. I just wouldn't share something that's like close to the dress. Like I would just share the stuff that I didn't go with. And I when I go wedding dress shopping, I want to try on like a ton of different things cuz I've never I didn't grow up dreaming of my wedding. So I don't I didn't even know what I wanted for an engagement ring. So like I don't >> I I get I feel the same way. I know what Danielle keeps asking me. She's like the style. Like I legit don't like that's the one thing that I have no idea. >> No idea. I'm like I feel like you have to try on like so many different things and see. If I were to guess I probably could guess the general vibe, but maybe I'm so off. Like they say the same thing about like rings and like diamonds. Like once you try it on, which I tried on a lot of different stuff and um I I actually got exactly what I went in there to get. So >> Oh, you have to trust your intuition then. >> Yeah. Well, Macy picked out my ring. Macy was like, "You would do great with a round bezel." And I was like, "Wait, I like And then I was like, and then like as time went on, I was like, "Yeah, that's what I should get." >> Mac is kind of my wedding creative director. >> Is she like, cuz she's gone to a lot of weddings. >> Yeah. >> So, is she like, does she know like what type of ring she wants? Is she one of those people? >> No. That's not that she doesn't know what she wants. Like, she would have like a general idea, but she's not someone who's like wedding obsessed. No. >> Cuz I know those people that like are they're like, "And this will be like before they even meet the guy, like they're like and it's and we're going to, you know, have a pop of green." Like, >> she's not really like that. Like, but she just has been to so many weddings. I mean, she went to TCU and it's like all these girls got married really young. So, she's been in like she was in like five weddings her first year postgrad. I was like, what? Like, >> and half of them like are not even Texans. Like, it's like shocking. But, >> wait, where are they from then? >> Uh, most of TCU is like California. >> Like, a lot of TCU is California. >> That's so crazy cuz my college I think the ones who got married are probably not from California. >> Yeah. I didn't like a lot of my college friend group was like more recently which So, I'm like more 27 28. >> Yeah. Okay. You've been to a lot of weddings recently. >> Yeah, this was a this was a big year of weddings. I have two more and then I'm done. Um, yeah, two more backto-back weekends. >> What's your favorite thing you've ever seen at a wedding? >> Ooh, that's such a good question. Ooh, favorite thing that I've ever seen at a wedding. Like I I need to think like general direction cuz I'm like right now I'm like fixated on like the music or like the the drinks or the dessert or like what it is that like I'm doing. >> What you What's yours? >> I don't really have one now that I'm thinking about it. Like I'm like >> I'm like uh no I [laughter] have notes. No, no, no. I I think Bridget and Mitch's wedding was the best wedding I've seen in terms of like drink like drink availability and to me that was so intentionally done and so thoughtful. They had so many different stations for drinks and I just that to me I was like I mean that was like my favorite thing cuz they were thinking about the guest experience I guess in that way which I really liked. They also had the most insane, I will say, because now I'm paying attention to it, florals and lighting and those sort of things, like drapery and like literally like chandeliers in the freaking tent. Like it was insane. And yeah, so >> it's it's so crazy, too, when you like start getting like price tags for florals and you're like, >> "Oh, yeah." I'm like, "Okay, the floral budget's going to be pretty high." Yeah. >> Oh, perfect. Love that. I'm like, "Oh, >> yeah. Perfect." Yeah. I'm trying to think like favorite like unique thing though cuz that's what I'm trying to think of and I my favorite thing is when it's like something that the couple loves like >> Yeah, me too. >> very personal to them. >> I've seen like McDonald's done like afterwards like you know and that's like cuz they love McDonald's. Like I love like that. >> I love things that Yeah. that are just personal to the person. Like it's not necessarily like the actual act. It's just like what the mean what the mean. >> Of course. Because we always go on late night dates to McDonald's, you know. That's cute. I the connection to Oh, I mean, and Bridget Bridget mentions a frat party afterward. That was my favorite thing at a wedding. Sorry. Because they met in college. It made the most sense. Like, that's fun. >> That's That is top of mind. Very unique experience. >> Yeah, that's cool. >> I'm trying to like I love a unique experience. Gretchen and Max also had a wonderful afterparty. >> I Yeah, I mean, I'm all about like just having fun and like a fun guest experience. So, that's it. Do Are you going to do a band? >> Yeah, that's like the one thing that Charlie is really adamant about. M >> Charlie is very cuz you're going to do DJ. >> Yes. But we're we're DJ people though. Like >> Yeah. That you have to. That would be crazy. But Charlie like the one thing about the wedding that he has known forever is like he knows exactly the band that we want. >> I don't even know what the band is by the way. I actually has the same taste in like everything though. >> So, but it's been at like a lot of his friends weddings >> and so like I trust it cuz like I know those people. But that's the thing too. Like when I'm thinking about things with our relationship, like I need like an honor bar margarita, but like they'll just have to have that on the menu. >> Yeah. >> Because like we're not getting married in Dallas. >> Oh, but it doesn't matter. You could get the recipe. >> Yeah. And I have the recipe from But that will definitely have to have. >> Yeah. I feel like I have a list on my phone of like certain things. Let me see if I could say some some things without like spoiling cuz I've >> It's hard when it's >> I've just started taking notes at weddings like what to do and what not to do, which that sounds like, you know, [snorts] bad. >> I mean, everyone does it. Wedding. Wedding should do drinks upon entering the property. Water. Definitely water too. Like if it's an outdoor ceremony, get these people a water. Please, please. Drinks, drinks, drinks. So many bars, it's an issue. Bar and dance floor in the same room. This is a big thing. A lot of the time the bar is like so far away from the dance floor and then the party. Yes. No one's dancing. But I don't really care if people like do whatever you want. Like if you want to dance. >> Um Oh, I've seen this done a lot. A lot of my college friends did the custom note thing where you sit down and I love that. I'm going to do that. >> Incredibly thoughtful. Um definitely timeconuming but like so meaningful. >> Yeah. So worth it >> to have that phone free ceremony. Obsessed. >> Oh yeah. >> Yep. Um I wrote down no drones during the ceremony because it's loud. Have you ever been sitting in a wedding and there's a drone? >> Cuz a lot of the weddings I've been to, honestly, most of them have been indoor. >> Oh, okay. I've been to a few outdoor and like >> it's a beautiful shot. Don't get me wrong. That drone shot's so good. You hear that thing buzzing above me? It's really interesting. >> Yeah. >> I put photos quick. Welcome party. Disposable cameras. That's good for the welcome party, I guess. Oh, this was really like it's really nice when weddings like if it's outside and it's a little chilly that they have like the shawls. Yes. You know, or I like the flip-flops like offering that if if you can. >> Um >> Oh, I am so not a fan of a grand exit, but I also like I just like I just exit. Like I'm I'm a silent exit. >> Yeah. >> Like I just go like I don't need I've done this so many times where it's like we're going to like line up and like see them out, you know? And I just like it kills the vibe kind of cuz you're like party party and then it's like off and then it's like everybody line up. We're going to throw rose petals now. And it's like okay wait I have to grab my purse. Like I >> Yeah. Like it's like a really abrupt ending. >> Yes. >> Yes. I've been to a lot where it's like a hard stop ending and it's like almost like it's a shock to the end, but I'm like, "You knew what time this ended." >> You know, they're like, "Oops." >> I wonder if people do that, too, because like they've got to get people out for the venue cuz the rental ends. >> Oh, so it's a good way to get everybody out. >> Oh, that's a good point. I think a lot of people do it for the photos, honestly. that photo of like >> and it is once again great shot but >> I I'm all about the guest experience and that to me I'm just like I if it's not naturally happening it's not >> but I also don't see us like going in a getaway car and like fleeing the country immediately. So like I don't know if we need to do that you know like I feel like that was like a old like back in the day they used to do that cuz it was like go to your honeymoon. >> Are you going to do that right away? Um, no. And we can't anyway with like timeline, but I think I would do like I want to do a safari for our engagement. >> Love. >> So, I would just do it dependent on that. And it's not going to be right after. I would like for it to be a little bit closer, but just with like the way that was another thing is that I needed to have our wedding scheduled first before because we have so many things happening with a friend of mine right now that I like had to have that calendar done to be able to like I had to have that done. >> Totally. So, no, we're not doing an like maybe we'll do like a little trip after. Yeah. I just feel like many I just feel like it would be so weird that you just like get engaged and like what you get on a plane the next day and then you go home. Like I feel like that's crazy. >> I I could see that being like a like oo we're back. But I also like am such a get home person that I could see myself wanting to >> I could see myself doing the same too then >> like wanting to be home at least for a few days maybe. I But I also don't know. I feel the same. It's kind of like schedule dependent. >> Yeah. And I feel like I would be really stressed out if I went on the honeymoon like right after the wedding though. Like the actual honeymoon, I feel like I'd be like so stressed. >> You could prepare for everything all at once. >> All at once. No, thank you. >> All of those looks, all of those like packing. I feel like I would forget something. It would just be >> Yeah, >> that seems But once again, that's person dependent. Some people like the idea of like taking three weeks off of life and like being like these are my three weeks. But like I feel like we can't really I've never taken like Have you When When's the last time you took like >> Well, I like really couldn't now though. even your business owner. >> Yeah, I really couldn't. >> No, you couldn't. >> So, >> even with the Safari, like that will have to be like really intentional, I feel like, right? With like >> you'll still be reachable, but it will be like less. >> I'll be reachable, but it's hard. I mean, also like Charlie and I work together, so it's like two of us at one. Like, we really really I couldn't especially. We really really couldn't. >> That's so funny. >> It just like couldn't happen. Um, I'm trying to think of anything else for Do you have any other like strong feelings about the wedding? >> I just want everybody to have fun. I keep saying that. like, "Oh my gosh, I'd really like a good time." I feel like it's as much for like after going to a lot of weddings, I really think a lot of them you you definitely do things that you want to do, of course, like we're doing a DJ cuz we like a DJ for for sure, >> but I think a lot of the times the guest experience is like forgotten. Like I think a lot of the times it's like >> no, this is what what we want to do. But sometimes you have to think about the people that are like coming and traveling. So I feel like >> Yeah. I do think the wedding is like more for the guest. >> Y >> you know. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And like as a good host like that's good. >> Yeah. But hopefully the guests that you're inviting you like like and like care about >> you know so you want them to like enjoy. Um Yeah. Mine's my wedding like we don't we both don't have like huge family so it's definitely going to be like more friendheavy. So I'm thinking that more party vibes. I have no idea though. Like when I picture my wedding and all these people one room I'm like what the is this going to be like? Not to be like that [laughter] but like you know what I mean? Like it's such an interesting blend. >> It's going to be great. But like that's the one time in your life really that all people are in one room. >> I know. And I have a massive family and I'm like very close to my family too and my even like my divorce sides are close with each other and whatever. But even with that I'm like oh god like you know what I mean? I'm like oh yeah >> it's going to be No, it's going to be great. I feel like it always ends up being great and like such good like such good like family lore comes from like weddings like that where it's like oh god oh yeah >> I am the family lore. What's the word I'm looking for? scribe. I am the family lore scribe of my family. Okay. >> Like taking notes >> taking notes everywhere we go and they don't even know it. And then after the fact if anyone misses because now we're at a point where like someone's pregnant, someone's doing something, someone's whatever and they need the they need the inside jokes. I don't want them to feel left out. So every sing and they don't they don't know that I'm doing this. >> Kenzie, this is so smart. >> Every single trip I'm writing down so and so did this, crazy aunt Sharon did this, crazy uncle whatever. You wouldn't believe what they said here. so and so arguing at the bar, so and so whatever, and God, it makes you so much more present. And it just makes you so grateful because it's like, yes, your family could be crazy and you like it could be crazy like, oh, or they could be crazy. I love that. >> And it's like, oh my gosh. Yes. >> It's been a really great thing for reframing. Everyone in the family is really grateful. And we actually often times like we're going to the lake all together this weekend. We were together all last weekend and again at the lake and I'm sure someone, this is a different side of the family, they'll be asking for my scribe. They'll be asking for my notes. They'll be like, "What did so and so say?" >> You do it in your phone. You let me just put it in your phone. >> And then I put all the cousins on it and they said, "What did so and so say?" And I said, "Oh, let me pull it up really quickly for you." >> Oh, that is so smart. >> I started them at my cousin Alyssa's wedding. Cuz she was like, "Well, I'm not even going to like" She was like getting stressed because she's like, "Oh, she's missing. >> How am I going to know?" Yeah. I'm like, "Oh, I said no issue. I got you covered." >> Oh, that is so >> It was the greatest thing I ever did because it's really just brought me so much joy cuz it's like all the like crazy things that like you do or your family does or whatever and like you just forget them. And now you guys I think that's actually something that that's a good wedding tip. Honest to God, >> I would love for my friend like Yes. Oh, my wedding hot takeake is no brunch the day after. I >> Oh, yeah. You >> I do feel I feel that way because I just I But I'm team go. Like I take the first flight out the next morning. I want to be horizontal on my couch at home. Like that. That's just a personal preference thing. I I like But I like offering the guests something. So maybe like, >> you know, >> I've never gone to one of them like because we've always left like early the next morning or whatever. Um, I would do it like it's different with like family. >> It's really low energy. >> Yeah, >> that's the thing. The ones that >> isn't everyone hung over? >> Yeah. And it's like usually at like kind of an early time like it's not at noon. So >> I know. And it like sounds fun in theory to like recap it together almost like you're in college again. Like that's the part that sounds fun. >> But do the notes and then you have the same thing. >> Yeah. >> Or like call me later or like let's get dinner in two weeks and talk about it. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like I also just think it's like a lot to also like you host a wedding and then the next day turn around to host that. But I don't know. I mean I would like like personally I would like to do something if it was like closest friends and family. Like if everyone was together and it wasn't like forced >> like it wasn't like something that you were hosting. Like I would be fine if everyone was just like laying around on couches and we were hanging out. I think I would want to hang out with people. >> Yes. >> I think that's what I'm saying. I think I don't really want to host something. I think I want to just like hang out with people. >> Yeah. Are you gonna be staying in like a house situation for your wedding or >> We'll stay like where the wedding is. >> Okay, cool. So, everyone will be there. Oh, so then that's easy. >> Yeah, but that's not a wedding brunch. That's just like hanging out. >> Oh, so that's fine though. That could be like >> But I do think that like hang I think that hosting the brunch for it would just be if it was like an actual brunch, it would be like that's just like stressful. >> Yeah. >> You know? >> Yeah. No. And it's usually like not great. Like I feel like it's like really like put like it's because you also go from like the wedding where it's like >> you put it all on the wedding, right? Like you know you're doing the big dinner, whatever, drinks, like and then it's like the brunch is like definitely like >> you don't want to use your budget on the brunch. Are you kidding? Like [laughter] >> I can understand it if it's like one of the moms wanted to throw it like with her friends and they're handling it then it's like that's easy and whatever. But even then like I wouldn't want that. >> I feel like my mom would be way too hung over to >> Yeah. like my [clears throat] family wouldn't be the ones that are but also like my family's already together so they're not like dying to go. You know what I mean? >> Yes. No, I I feel that completely and that's like once again person depend so much about wedding is so personal preference and I >> really don't care either way. It's similar to engagement rings >> you know like your favorite engagement ring someone else could look at it and be like that is the most atrocious I've ever seen. Right. >> But it's beautiful to me >> and that's what [laughter] matters. Well I also like engagement rings depending on if they look like they should like like the bride. I agree with that. >> You know what I mean? Because like there's a lot of stones that like I don't like I wouldn't like for myself but I love for someone else. So I love the ring but I wouldn't want not in a way that's like I love it but not for me in a way that you're like actually hate it. I I don't I actually genuinely mean it. It's like I love it's so that person but it wouldn't it's not me but it's not about me. It's their ring. You know what I mean? >> I feel that way about weddings and like dresses too. >> Yeah. >> I feel that way about a lot of dresses. I'll see a lot and be like wow what a choice. but like looks >> Do you remember when you when we were like 18 and you would instead of Brooke saying she hated something, she'd be like, "Wow, that's funky." >> Funky. That was like a phrase that I said. Yeah, funky. I missed that. I know. >> Wait, bring that back. >> Norm I I I feel like I voice my opinions like too loudly sometimes. I've realized and I give it without being asked like a lot of times. Not to be like not in a way of like I would never say that to someone like oh my gosh if they show me their wedding dress that is the most gorgeous dress I've ever seen. It's jaw-dropping actually. >> It's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen in my entire life. Never >> couldn't be better. >> Nothing could top it. >> Yeah. [laughter] You know because it is so awkward when someone you know like I think I'll probably keep mine private because I don't really >> I could read people's faces and I could see that slight look where they're like you know but they're like I love it. >> But you know when someone shows you theirs and you're like what do you say? Like you literally just have to be like I love it cuz there's no you can't say anything. >> Yeah. There's nothing else. And also I think for me because I don't really have an opinion on wedding dresses because I don't have like a specific taste with them. >> But I just like oh everything's cool. Like it's just >> it's all cool. >> Yeah. It's all cool. I'm like oh I love it because I haven't really like thought about it. >> I really do feel that way though because I I'm a subscriber now to Vogue weddings. It's just >> it's great. It's great. I mean right like the articles are so and like the photos and stuff. So many choices I would literally never make. Like I don't want to get married in a slip dress. Like don't get me wrong, but like but these people >> I know st the most >> amazing looks amazing >> and it fits the venue and it fits them and you could just tell they're like an artist and I feel like an artist would get married and that type of thing and like >> 100% cuz it's so effortless. >> Yeah. It's like I just threw this little number on like whatever. Like I like I'm like getting married I guess. Like >> I guess I guess I'm getting married. No, literally. >> Oh my gosh. I feel like their vows would be so beautiful. Profound. Really >> profound. They would use words that like we would have to look up in the dictionary. >> 100%. No, I would have to be like, what what did they what did you mean by that line? Like, >> hey, Brooke. So, I have a question. What? [laughter] >> Yeah. >> So, what did you think that meant? >> Yes. You're like, it's like literally like English, high school English class, like where you're like >> the literary functions. >> That's probably like Taylor Swift's vows. >> Oh my god. >> Weren't their vows like 20 minutes each or something? >> They were. >> I don't know if that's true. >> Well, I know Adam Sandler was the officient. That's all that I know. >> Well, that I love. Like if I would kill to have Adam Sandler insane. If you could have one celebrity >> offici at your wedding, who would it be? >> That is such a good question. >> I would do Kiki Palmer. >> That is a great choice. Oh, that is a really good choice. Another great choice. >> Do you want to be more serious? >> Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm like Mel Robbins. [laughter] >> You [gasps] can just call her up. >> No. Um, no. I would want someone silly. I would go for the silly angle that I like was doing a celebrity. So, I have to think of like who I like as like a comedian. Like, who do I like? >> I don't know. Now that I'm >> now that I think about it, I'm like, who are the great like female like >> Nikki Glazer? >> Nikki Glazer would be a good choice. I feel like that would be more of a roast. And you have to say it's going to be that way. >> That's true. But I think that she could lock in. >> Yeah, >> it would definitely Well, I think any comedian officiating your wedding would be a little bit of a roast. >> But I love that. I love that self-deprecating humor. Like that's so funny to me. And like you tell them like kind of like habits the other person has or whatever and it's like Yeah. But like good habits, not like he leaves his socks everywhere like like real like deep cuts like [laughter] >> Yeah. Like Yeah. That time in February when you like >> Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Absolutely. [laughter] >> I think that's perfect. >> Who else? Or who's um Oh my god, why why is her name escaping me? Good Amy Amy Puller. I'm obsessed with her recently. So yeah, >> good hang. Obsessed >> like a Tina Fey. I feel like like these are not >> I think you know oh my god you know who would make the most sense for me and Charlie Marissa Harate cuz we watch SVU like every day. >> Oh so and I feel like that would be iconic. >> That would be I mean Kiki Palmer would be my number one number two but like if I would need like Olivia Benson and she is Olivia Benson like she really is in real life. Like she gives Olivia Benson. >> Yeah. >> That would be good. >> That would be good. Huh. Yeah. I've never really thought about that cuz I just was like >> I know [snorts] cuz like it's not happening. If you could have a celebrity perform at your wedding, >> cuz I just saw this celebrity wedding had Benson Boon. I'm like, good choice. Honestly, because like he's kind of like likable across the ages cuz you have to appease everybody from grandma who's 90 to you like that's hard. >> I feel like your answer has to like for wedding music, which is like something I would never pick would be like Bruno Mars. But I don't I would never want Bruno Mar. I feel like not my vibe. >> No, it would be on my no playlist, but honestly to him live. Yes. >> I would love that. You're so very like wedding. >> Yeah. >> Um, yeah. I feel like it would have to be, but like that's so >> But it would have to be like a pop artist, like someone that is like a top 40 person because we love Taylor Swift, but like I wouldn't choose her as my wedding performer. I I mean, she has like some pop bangers, but like >> Well, also she's just going to like outstage you at your wedding. She's Taylor Swift being there. It's like Okay. >> Yeah. Yeah. And I feel like you need someone who doesn't necessarily need like a full production. Like someone that can stand >> like a Why do I like like a John Legend? Like >> Yeah. It would have to be someone like that's also like >> it's slow though. >> They're like wedding singers. Yeah. But it's beautiful and he can do he can do other stuff. >> I feel like that's best. >> You think I could ask him to play? >> Just call him up. Brooke. I think you could. Here's the thing about Broo and I can't believe we went through a full podcast episode without me without me mentioning your burgeoning comedy career. Here's the thing about me. this this collaboration to really end today's episode. This collaboration has been a dream because one thing about me is that I think Brooke is the funniest person alive and no one is more passionate and about Brook's comedy career including Brooke than I am because I am always like I'll be your agent. I'll represent you. Like I really see potential here. We got to go. So doing the photo shoot which was like pouring rain. It was like it was like basically worst case scenario. Not worst case but bad scenario for a photo shoot. >> It could have been pouring worse is why I'm not saying it was worst case but it was like not ideal. It was still just the dream for me because I was like, "Well, whatever. I'm directing Brooke," which is like my dream come true. This is like what I needed. >> It really Kenzie would always say like, "Oh my gosh, you should do comedy. You should." And you would hype me up so much that I'd be like, "Wow, damn. >> I should maybe [snorts] I should another episode. Maybe that might be my next hobby." I'll be like, "I got to put together an hour set." Like, >> no. Absolutely. Remember when you were going to like learn how to DJ? You should go back to that actually. >> Yeah. No. Well, now I >> It was a co thing. >> It was a co thing. No. And I like tried once and I was like, I don't understand how to connect the speakers to the actual DJ board. Like it was so technically complicated that I was like, oh, this is so over my head. And I didn't even get to like the step of the mixing. I realized that the thing around that is just to find friends that do that. So I have DJ friends now. >> Yeah, that's perfect. Well, I remember seeing that and I was like, I could never figure that out. Like I was like, wow, Brooke, that's like But you're really smart. Like you're actually good with tech. >> Yeah, I feel like I >> So if anyone could, it would be you. >> I feel like I find like hacks and like workarounds. Like I'm good at like teaching my I mean we all are cuz of YouTube back in the day. >> Not me. >> No, but we all taught ourselves like how to edit and how to like basics >> use cameras and stuff like basics but like back >> I think I capped out though at like 2016 >> and you were like I'm done. >> I think I was like that I've reached my peak as far as >> this is all that I can do. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I feel like I I can do enough to get by and like if you hand me your phone and you have a problem with it like I could probably >> figure it out. >> Figure it out. But like usually it's just turning it off and turning [laughter] it back. >> But you don't tell them that. You just have to you just have to position yourself as a genius. >> Yeah. I mean I'm like my family's tech expert for sure. But I feel like that's not a hard role to like be given. >> Yeah. My family is definitely not. Should we show them that um our progress? >> Yeah. You made so much progress. I >> I've I'm going to have to make this straight over here. It was kind of hard. >> I'm almost done with the background. I'm going to fix it on the way. We're off to an event, our launch event, and I'm going to fix it in the car and then I'm sending it off to finishing tomorrow. >> Oh my gosh. But it's going to be cute. A cute little ice cream cone to commemorate. And forever I'll think a on my Christmas tree. Our collaboration. >> Oh, that is so sweet. Sweet. >> It's literally sweet. >> I really like the ice cream. Um this one I just did the blue. I I couldn't talk and that was really impressive that you were able to >> I I'm not >> It's because like when I go to like family's houses, which is like how we spend a lot of our weekends. I'm always needle pointing and talking. Like I do both. >> It's so wholesome. Like >> that's how I get so much done. I'm always doing it. Like I it's just it I think it's it it like >> regulated my nervous system in a time I really needed it and now I'm like very dependent on it. Like I like have to do it cuz it like >> Yeah. >> No, I like that. See, I break this out in front of my family and they were like, "Okay, grandma's here." Like like they don't get it. Like it's not And I'm like you just It's not clocking to you. Like this is my hobby. Like [laughter] >> it's not clocking to you. >> Yeah. It's not like Sorry. Sorry. I have a hobby. Like literally [laughter] um No, my family also I mean I've gotten a lot of them on it. They definitely like call me a grandma. Like my sister is like not that. My sister actually is take is hosting a majong lesson and asked me for sourdough tips the other day. I said Madison Piper. I said Madison Piper I would never call her a club rat but she loved a club for but but I wouldn't call it a club rat but I was like Matt I'm like Maddie are you good? Everything I checked for a fever. I had to. >> She she's having the Brook arc you know. >> No Madison Piper Instagram baddy. No, >> she's she got married and now she's Yeah, >> now she's doing >> That's what happens. I guess I know >> she's been indoctrinated. >> Now she's like, "Oh, I guess I have to be this person. It's mandatory. Once you get married, you have to start playing mine." Like, it's >> that's like how it works. I guess >> I don't make the rules. [laughter] >> It's so true. Um, okay. Well, this has been so fabulous. >> So fab. >> You guys can find the collection at shopfriend.com. And then Brooke, where can they find you? >> Uh, my podcast with Danielle Carolyn is Gals on the Go podcast, also on Deer Media. you love. >> We're co-workers. >> Yeah, we're we're associates. >> We're associates. >> Um and then I'm just at Brook Mijio micio on literally everything. YouTube, same as you, Kenzie. Everywhere. Everything. Always. >> Threads big. You Well, back in the day, she had like Twitter fingers. >> Yeah. >> They kind of have a comeback a little bit. >> Yeah. And then I like started spending more time on Twitter. I was like, I don't like this anymore. Like it really Threads is where it's at, though. Threads is a good community. I like it there. >> I agree. >> Threads literally. >> It's perfect. [snorts] Thank you all so much for listening. If you love this episode, please don't forget to leave a rating and review. It really helps the show grow. 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