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Navy SEAL Reacts To "SEAL Training Has Become Too Harsh"

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The podcast host begins by addressing recent statistics indicating that 76% of American adults aged 17 to 24 are ineligible for U.S. armed forces service due to obesity, medical issues, or criminal histories without waivers. He expresses serious concern over this trend and critiques the modern push for inclusivity when it is pursued merely as a political statement rather than based on operational necessity. Drawing from his own military experience, he argues that standards must be rooted in battlefield reality where failure can result in death. Consequently, he believes the military should remain extremely exclusive to ensure only those who meet rigorous physical, intelligence, and educational benchmarks are selected, warning against opening doors too broadly which would compromise mission effectiveness based on meritocracy rather than ideology. To illustrate his point about the dangers of prioritizing representation over capability, the host references a conversation with Heather McDonald regarding her book *When Race Trumps Merit*. He uses the example of Alzheimer's and Parkinson's research to demonstrate how excessive affirmative action that disregards merit can slow down critical scientific progress, directly impacting human healthspan and lifespan. While he acknowledges that industries differ in degree rather than kind from military operations, he insists there is a distinct line where safety becomes paramount; if an individual cannot keep up with their platoon due to fitness limitations or conditions like diabetes, they endanger the entire unit. He posits that most sane people would accept incredibly rigorous entry standards because understanding mortal danger on the other side of failure makes meritocracy essential for survival. The discussion then shifts to a viral video showing Navy SEAL candidates being sprayed with tear gas and forced to sing "Happy Birthday" during selection training, which some critics claim is too harsh. The host initially dismisses these criticisms as uninformed but acknowledges that specific instructors involved in the incident may have exceeded their limits by using five or ten times more CS gas than authorized on an evolution sheet. He explains that while exposure to tear gas and forced breathing exercises are standard procedures designed to simulate real-world conditions where candidates might face chemical agents overseas, the primary issue was not the training itself but the lack of oversight allowing non-instructors to film the event for social media platforms like Instagram. Defending the necessity of such extreme measures, he details how forcing recruits to sing "Happy Birthday" or perform other tasks increases respiration rates in a toxic environment, simulating scenarios where holding one's breath against irritants could be fatal. He notes that while tear gas burns intensely and causes significant mucus production and respiratory distress, it is unlikely to kill someone without underlying medical conditions; however, the psychological impact of feeling like you are dying serves as a crucial cognitive test before facing actual combat. The host concludes that any instructor who deviates even slightly from the established evolution sheet violates safety protocols and should be punished, emphasizing that while public perception might view these events through an Instagram lens, those unfamiliar with the job cannot judge its essential requirements or risks accurately.
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I saw I quoted this in my newsletter this week about these stats of how few Americans can join 76 of percent of American adults aged 17 to 24 either two obese to qualify or have other medical issues or criminal histories that would make them ineligible to serve in the U.S armed forces without a waiver I wish that number was higher I'm being dead serious I hear people I'm all about inclusivity like I don't have a problem with inclusivity it bothers me when it's inclusivity for inclusivities purpose and just for just so we can say we're inclusive I think that the military should be very exclusive I think it should be extremely difficult to be able to join and proceed down a pipeline that you want to go down because at the end of the day you I look at what is it that you want to do and what are the standards for that job what are they based off of and I can only speak through the lens of my own previous military experience the standards that are that our job was based on and that we were held to came from a Battlefield and I don't give a [ __ ] about your woke ideology because none of that matters when you're covered with your friends brains not a single stretch of that [ __ ] matters whatsoever all of those ideologies and all of these platforms and and ideas that people want to put on to the military just so they can say that they did I think that they should be removed I think it should be super hard to get into the military we should exclude most people from it because they don't meet the physical standard the uh whatever standards are listed with the intelligence standard the educational standards all of those things that's a good thing um I think we are headed down the wrong path when we just start opening the doors up and letting all of those people in because that is not a military that is based to operate in the environment that the standards are based upon I had a conversation with Heather McDonald who has written a book called when race trumps Merit and she's talking about how affirmative action for different ethnic groups is causing meritocracy to kind of be thrown out of the window and it's it kind of it's really uncomfortable actually to to kind of go through because there's a lot of pretty sort of harsh and and disquieting stats that you start to learn but the main thing that I realized was most people most sane people wouldn't have a problem with the military having an incredibly rigorous standard for entry because they understand that if you get this wrong mortal danger is on the other side of it right if you have somebody that is unable to keep up with the rest of their platoon because of their physical fitness or because they've got diabetes or because they've got a gluten intolerance or whatever that person puts themselves into everybody else at risk but really almost all Industries are just a difference of degree not a difference of kind away from that so she used this example of underrepresentation within Alzheimer research or Parkinson's research but the problem that you have if you start to do an excessive amount of affirmative action in that especially if you completely disregard a mostly disregard meritocracy is that you slow down Parkinson's and Alzheimer's research which is directly impacting people's quality of life yeah so okay it's not mortal danger but it's like Health span and lifespan and it's mortal danger for some precisely so you go okay and then so where at which point all the way down to the checkout operator you know like at what point do we say that this doesn't have a operating based on Merit doesn't have a place to be within this system it's really hard to find a line at which you go yeah it's about there it's about the person that professionally does croak crochet or [ __ ] bakes cakes or something like that you know I mean I I think that the the conversation should be had and it's probably going to be a shifting scale depending on what you're talking about um you know should it be as difficult to join the military as it is to work at a Dunkin Donuts no right like we need to be able to have a sliding scale we're an advanced species we have the ability to think let's use that skill a little bit more did you see that um criticism around Navy SEAL selection being too harsh uh as seals was sprayed with tear gas and forced to sing Happy Birthday yeah you see this video is [ __ ] awesome what's your thoughts on that um I mean I say that a little bit tongue-in-cheek first off anybody who's been through that pipeline has experienced that and there's a few ways that you can look at it from my understanding what I will say is this from my understanding from what I have heard from other instructors that were there those particular instructors instructors were a little bit off the reservation and this can happen because instructors again you wear this blue and gold t-shirt in your hat and your shorts and you roll your socks it's a super dumb way and it's just people they might all look the same to the outside perspective but just because you're an instructor or even a seal doesn't mean that you're a good person by any stretch you get the wrong person in the wrong role bad [ __ ] is going to happen so the amount of Cs gas that they were exposed to from my understanding exceeded what the um what do they call it it's a of course I can't remember right now it's every it's an evolution cheat so everything that happens in Seal training that the room for imagination is almost non-existent it's basically like pull the three ring binder here is what we are trying to accomplish it like you know the mission statement here's what we're trying to accomplish here's our boundaries this is the evolution this is what it is this is how long we're going to do it for the students don't know this so as a student it's very chaotic I didn't know this until I went back as an instructor like holy [ __ ] like basically every day limits to this the limits are unbelievable and the safety net should be incredibly robust but also invisible to the students there's a portion of that training I'm like yeah maybe you should feel like you're gonna die you're not going to die we're not gonna we're gonna do our absolute utmost to prevent you from dying even though it does happen um but there's a psychological test there as well it's a physical and mental Crucible so I have no issue with people being exposed to CS gas because I was exposed to CS gas uh the third phase of training occurs out on San Clemente Island which is where that video came from the problem I have with it is the training and those Evolution sheets and again those standards you can draw a very precise breadcrumb trail to the why why do we expose people to CS gas and training well because one it's very common and the first time that you're exposed to it probably shouldn't be for real so what do we need to do we should expose it to people in a training environment where we can have a robust medical staff problem is from my understanding they involve people in that that actually weren't necessarily directly involved in the training pipeline they exposed them to far too much gas and one of the biggest issues I have with it is that there was some [ __ ] idiot there filming it with a cell phone do your job because I tell you right now filming it for your Instagram page is not your job and I don't know what you think is going to come from that and the reason they make you sing happy birthday is that requires you inhale and exhale it's the same they do that it's is that what you did uh we didn't they didn't have a sing Happy Birthday they like there's all these like frog Man songs that you sing when you're in training and they'll just have you do something that increases your respiration because there's some people out there that can hold their breath now that holding your breath in an environment will like it's still it's on your clothes it's it sucks what's it like what's it what's it burns um have you ever uh well I was my sister one time had like a little uh mace spray thing and I had I don't mind I had it in my pocket I sprayed it on myself and then wiped my eyes I was gonna say hey have you ever done that but most people haven't because they're not idiots no so it would be it's uh it burns you it it really burns your eyes water an unbelievable amount um within a few seconds you'll be questioning how it's possible that your body creates as much mucus as coming out of your body um you cough it can make seem like people it's hard to breathe for some people they describe it as they're inhaling like Flames from this like very hot is it is it going to kill you unless you have an underlying medical condition I think it's so highly unlikely does it feel like it's going to kill you probably to some people and that's the point we have to expose students to those things that they may be exposed to overseas I would rather have a student have that experience and know the cognitive decline the physical decline the emotional Decline and the impact that it's going to have on their ability to do their job in training before it happens in real life now if the instructor staff went one percent beyond what is on that Evolution sheet then they are wrong for doing that because that evolution is based on that real world requirement they used 5x the gas or 10x the gas then they should be punished for that particular activity but the the evolution and of itself is essential now somebody looking at that on Instagram could be like oh well that looks like torches like you don't know anything about this job you're I'm not saying your opinion isn't valid I'm just not going to pay any attention to it because you don't know what you're talking about what's happening people if you enjoyed that then press here for the full unedited episode and don't forget to subscribe peace