Moretown Selectboard - August 18, 2026 [MS]

[music] All right, this looks like 6:00. Let's get going. It's the Northtown Select Board. It's Tuesday, August 18th. We're here at 79 School Street in the John Hog meeting room as always to John and we'll start with public comment. Who's here for public comment tonight? Travis. Anyone else? All right. So, we'll go ahead and move on to the 605 meeting agenda item, which is the library trustee. And come on up. Um, if >> you can pull your chair up the front. Uh, I'm April Sean, the chair of the library of trustees, and we are hoping to fill the empty trustee spot. Um, Don Hayward is offered to join the board to fill the space until March. >> Perfect. Is uh Don obviously she's from town, I guess. >> Yes. Yep. She's from town. She's on patio. >> Oh, nice. Way up there. Almost in Windsfield. Yes. >> All right. Well, I would move to uh appoint Don Hayward into the existing library trustee position until March. >> Callie second. Any other comments, concerns? All in favor? I I >> I. >> Very easy. April, huh? Is there anything else going on in the library you want us to check out or you can tell us? >> No, nothing else right now. We're going to start a community survey at some point to get more feedback on the library, but very very early stages for that. >> School is getting ready. >> Yes. >> And we talent couple of folks from the town hall committee met with some of the trustees just to loop them in and give them an update for where we are. >> That's what we are right now. just to get have them be know you know what's out what we're waiting to hear about and stuff so >> all right well good I'm glad well April thank you and appreciate and tell you we're happy to have her on board now will she run we hope in March >> I'm hoping so >> give her a good experience here in the next couple months >> I know she's got a couple meetings between now and then have her >> all right [clears throat] thank you >> all All right. Uh, are you Sam? >> Yeah. >> All right. Sam Jackson from the Green Mountain. >> Um, I just wanted to check in with you guys again before we run this orientation event that we've been doing for the last few years. We did it last year. Um, and we, you know, I came in and chatted with you guys and just gave you a heads up on the route. Um, and sort of the basic plan for the day. So, the date in question is September 11th, which is a Friday. Um, and typically, you know, the timing that we're coming through more town is kind of like between 1 and 2 2:30. Um, so that's when the circus will arrive. Um, and we'll have signage out on roads to let people know that there will be, you know, riders and runners on some of the roads. The impact here is really pretty minimal. Um the one thing that we asked for last year and you guys granted us was the you basically being at a park back here by the rec fields. um you know bunch of vans because that's where basically we end one leg over at the hardwood track and then rather than have the kids on the road we bring them over here in vans and then we begin basically from the the recre field the back of the rec fields they go up um the the pine needle trail there up to South Hill and then the one other change that I've proposed this year because the last couple years we've had them then go out to South Hill bike leg has gone up and over and across Dallas that was washable. I think you have the the landing over there. Yeah. >> Um but that's just it's proven to be from sort of a timing perspective and trying to the kids end up being faster than the van. It's just sort of a it's become more of a headache than it seems to be worse. So, what I'm hoping to do is instead when we hit Southfield, go right and go out and then connect eventually with Floodwoods over in Wigsfield and then get back over to the valley that way. And that's feels >> um it'll it'll shorten our day a little bit too, which I think actually for the kids energy levels will be okay. Um but also just simpler logistically. >> Yeah. >> You won't get you'll be meeting going around in the van and meeting on the other side. Exactly. Exactly. >> Yeah. It'll be my my plan is that it will be you and kids would [clears throat] do a run from here up to the up to South Hill, pop out and then tag off and bikers would go all the way across to um and it would probably go all the way out to Weightsville Common. So that'll give the fans plenty of time to to get there. So yeah, I just wanted to make sure that you guys were aware that we were meeting any requirements you guys had. Um >> well, no. Well, thank you for for making us aware. You're certainly welcome here. >> Great. >> Um you know, just be safe and have fun. I don't know if anyone >> Yes. Have a good time. We didn't have any issues. >> Yeah. Yeah. The last couple years Mike's going to bike the leg with with the kids and go through >> all the way through that way. Bike through there. >> Well, I guess I have, but I haven't gone all the way down, but yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, >> sounds good. >> How many participants do you have? >> Well, so it's the whole school, but on each leg they're broken up into into teams basically. And um so I think we have 10 or 11 teams and uh so each leg you only have you know 11 kids participating in that leg and then they tag out the next kid takes over. So and we'll start in Weightsfield and we'll go out to Lincoln and up on Lincoln Gap back over uh Jerusalem Trail back over to Mount Glenn. So there's plenty of room for everybody to get >> some work in. >> Yeah. So, it's divided up, but it is a bit of a traveling circus. So, I did want to just again let you guys know we'd be coming through. So, >> well, thank you very much. >> Yeah. >> Anything else you guys would need from me? >> I don't think so. >> Great. Well, thank you guys very much. >> See you next year. >> Yeah, we'll be looking for you, too. >> I test them all. Yeah, sure. >> Why don't we go ahead for reports? >> Um, I have a staff of paperwork over there. I have two warrants. Um, there's two amendments. One for the sidewalk project for Wayne King. Um, engineering services for the warbrook culbert. There's a for that. Stewart shop has their liquor and tobacco license to renew. Um, the boys and King has a um the Salt Lake shed. Salt Lake [laughter] shed works there. [clears throat] >> And then I wanted to ask about the fire warden thing. Do you want me to have Stephan to a meeting so that that could be talked about? There's a form that needs to be done. So I don't know if he's going to continue on fire that 162 or not. >> Right. It just folds an end to it, doesn't it? The fire into the fire marshal stuff. >> That's the chief. Yeah. So the chief just becomes the fire. >> Yes. I don't think that's that act 162 thing, I think. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yes. I don't know if I mean there's >> don't even need to do that. >> I [snorts] mean I'm sure he's aware of that. I assume I hope so. >> Let's just reach out to him and make sure. >> Okay. >> Congratulate him on his losing one position but his other one has more responsibilities. >> And Martin asked me about the tennis courts. Who's responsible for the meat whacking? Well, I guess um our I mean our guys that do we are going to be responsible, right? >> Mhm. >> Yeah. So why they don't >> I don't know why it was asked. >> All right. Yeah. Can you or or I'll I can follow up with him and ask him why, but I think I mean all the weed whacking should be done by the worker, right? >> I I guess I think I mean I >> I mean we haven't you know I mean there hasn't been any other change. I don't think the school does it or >> No, I don't think there's no tennis orational >> when we part of um part of who we brought on the fourth person which was um Stefon at the time. Um how we justified that if you remember was uh we were I think we were spending around 15,000 or so at the time for lawn services out here on an annual basis. And so we decided all right and there was a need and we were also spending some money I can't remember where it was in the winter for part-time job. Um, and so we found it to be better just to hire, you know, a fourth person, >> right? >> And and that person would obviously would be responsible for the lawnmowing or training that we had. So I don't see where that's changed, but we haven't done anything different. We don't think so. I know the wreck um the wreck department [clears throat] if I remember correctly had asked for some money for weed whacking. Um but I think at the time we even at that point we kind of raised our eyebrows a little bit. Why are you guys doing weed whacking? So I'll just check. >> I think that was for some of the trail work >> or some of the or the story walk or something. as well story walk and that someone should be out with the echo classes that were going on. >> Oh, trails. All right. So, that makes sense separate. But as far as the >> school story walk, I don't think is we wack cuz that's just like >> just natural. >> That's that's an addition to >> All right. Well, we can check that. But anyways, the the compound here, the the complex needs to be in the the um [clears throat] tennis sports room included in that. So, >> I I'll just check make sure there's no >> okay >> questions on that. [clears throat] >> Mike here over there on the end. What's she got anything for today? >> Um it's out into the future. Um, I think the Waitsfield staff board member told me that when the state replaces the bridge over uh Dallas Brook, which I think is 2028, um, Weedsfield is going to close the Meadow Road bridge. So, all the traffic will be going to Pony Farm and Trent Road. So, >> you guys, just a heads up. Well, except that the cover pine prime bro covered bridge not you know there's only vehicles going on that >> right but that's like but because I think isn't going to have the meadow road bridge fixed by the time that's what he made sound like by the time the state does the Dallasville bridgefield is just going to close it >> so it doesn't like completely fail >> I don't think they totally figured it out yet cuz one of the things said they were going to do a detour that you're going to detour to Waterberry and come around for the you know for trucks and such. >> Yeah, I think they have to because >> I know but that been I don't know. I don't think it's been totally sorted out. >> Well, no, I think he's just Yeah, >> he's just letting us know. >> Yeah. >> So, there'll be more car traffic at least on Pony Farm when they do that. I thought it was 2029 that they're doing the real >> might be. I thought you said 28, but yeah, >> that's Yeah, it's a little low. >> Yeah, the one that's kicked the wrong way. >> Yeah. So, it feels narrow. >> Yeah. >> But I think that's all I have. So, I guess. >> Yeah. When someone's coming when you're going up and someone's coming down that hill, a big truck in that corner. Well, there's kind of if you're coming from weightfield, you kind of go down in it. And if you're going a little too fast and just wants to like kick you sideways a little bit. >> So, yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Speed. >> Oh. All right. Well, um >> some time. >> What? >> I said we have some time tonight. Go ahead. Well, okay. Uh, I guess there's still some figuring out some mailbox stuff, but we're close. As you can see, it's looking pretty good. I think we might have to still add another box there. Um, there's a some question. I don't know if Aaron Hunts her whole box is at this town hall and you know what she wants here. >> No, no, she's going to be here as well. But um I don't know. There's um it's a work in progress. >> Is everyone getting their mail? >> Yeah. No, there's mail there now. Apparent I I talked to Mark, the postmaster, and he said Aaron actually isn't picking up her mail. And then I tried to see if she was going to be if she was around over the weekend sort of looking by just to go and talk to her, make sure she's all set, you know, and Martin still has on his list hopefully either today or this week is to put the drop box in the package, whatever it's called. >> So that's happening. >> Looks looks good out there. I think those guys a nice job. >> Yeah. Oh yeah. >> It must be much easier for the post. Oh yeah. And even the folks that are there getting their mail every It's safer. It's easier. >> Yeah. >> And [clears throat] um >> someone to talk to get their mail >> that too. Yep. So there's still a few little bugs, but it's it's happening. But then so then from the sidewalk into like So the crosswalks are are going to be you know there'll be signs crosswalk signs typical. Well, they're not going to be flashing. I mentioned about the flags. >> So, I have found out about it's called see me flags.com and they're like 200 bucks to do the flags, >> but so we can once the post gets up and we can catch up to that. >> Yeah. >> But, um, do we have a sense when the state's going to paint? I mean, would that be a question for Ken, I think, or >> Yeah. you know, uh, you know, when they're going to they going to come through and stripe it, you know, and do the stripes on the side and and do the cuz they were supposed to paint that crosswalk last spring, the one down here at the school, they they didn't. And apparently even Wville still waiting to get some crosswalks painted. So, I'm just wondering with on that. >> Okay. So, you know, so maybe if they're pushing up is better, they can get that done. Um, I pick on next meeting and we I'll have a hope to have some facilities decisions to make, you know, you know, like we carry this in the budget. Here's two prices. This is what I think we do with it type of thing for a couple couple of items. Um and then uh on the town hall as we're moving along or waiting, you know, waiting to see. So do we have any updates on the the resolution maybe would be the word? Ah, it's it's moving towards the resolution, but there's nothing. >> Um, yeah, there's stuff today, but it's nothing, you know, just [snorts] so I wasn't aware of uh I thought that the the buyout thing was sort of still, you know, a work in progress, but apparently a couple of build there's one building or so or two buildings that are under demo, right? >> Yeah. Went by the other day saw >> so which I didn't know >> was getting torn down. Yeah. Is um I know Larry's restaurant I think is next >> is Yeah. Across the street from Larry apparently is >> right that was the first one camp that's done. Yep. >> That was the first and then I think um drive >> the gam >> I believe. So and then then Larry's will be next. So, I had um a Morttown uh guy call me, Justin Lord, I don't know, sister lives over there on 100 on Route 2. And um he was just wondering like uh cuz he was actually over there and he was there was someone working in was looking inside or something and he said there's some pretty amazing equipment. you know that as we're going and doing this demo, he's like going, you know, there's like this two renai beautiful Rena boilers and there's, you know, the one that has four apartments is like, you know, [snorts] four decent shaped refrigerators, dishwashers, you know, uh, washing machines and dryers and, you know, like are they just going to be putting that in the dumpster? And then is there no way to >> there's no way to upcycle that stuff >> or someone needs it or in in in need of this equipment or >> that question was asked earlier on. >> Yeah. No, right. Or even like all the copper piping, you know, you know that there's no scrap, you know, in other words, they might just shovel it and put it right in the wooki. It's about the same as putting in the dumpster, >> you know. >> Yeah. Yeah, it's it's I agree. I think everyone probably runs table >> would agree that >> No, I imagine they get a price from someone to do the demolition and but you know Yeah. Okay. That's yes that question. Um uh well I was I'm going to send you something that I read in a that I've seen a couple of times in the Montilier front porch forum that I thought would be something for us to all look at. It's they post something about, you know, uh community service, right? >> You know, I think I brought it up once before. So, I'll resend a you know, posting that we I think could adapt to here in Morttown and just, you know, put it out there like, hey, you want to >> here some places that you can, you know, help or get involved in community. I know. We can put it out there right now. I know the direct department. >> Yeah, it's got two people. >> Like a couple people. >> Yeah. So, I'll send that along. Um and the only other thing is again town administrator. Um so I I I I don't know. It sounds like reaching out to the LCT is a a good one. So, um I don't know if someone how we want to I guess I could do that or if someone you know I don't know if someone in the town office should do it or you know I don't know um you know just to get I think they they give you some feedback and some information about it. So I get I'll ask Karen what we should talk to. >> Yeah. Well, I think that's a good step. First step to Okay, >> no, I'm good. I think that's Sam, you done quiet? Welcome. >> Do you have anything you want to share with us? >> Um, no, I don't think I have any updates. Um, school stuff. >> Yeah, the the school as it relates to more town the planning was there it's the building use and something committee for the district just met um they are I I was able to listen in and out on the meetings I was at work at the time but it's the the two things that we should know is one there's a building that's in consideration as the site for the new elementary school if the consolidation plan goes forward Cabbat is looking to sell that building to the district. So the district would potentially renovate the cabb building in I'm guessing that's we based in there or is it field where cabb is? >> Oh that's up at the industrial. Yeah. >> So that's the lines. >> It's right there. Yeah. Um >> yeah. So that that's under consideration. They're now going to sort of move forward with requests for uh they're putting out requests for architects to come in and actually start flushing this out and see what the cost would be. Um but that's proposals from from Sorry, my brain's fried. But >> yeah, so that's that's where that stands. And of course, all of this is just exploratory. The board isn't officially moving forward with any of this. It's not something they're endorsing. They just want to explore all the options that they have. So, that's that's where things get in there. >> Yeah. >> I think if someone's offering it up to somebody, it's it's worthwhile to take a look at knowing what that building is. I don't see it being converted into a school. But >> I've never been inside. I've just seen it from the parking lot from the park. >> But then [clears throat] the park seems like it raises its own complications. It's sort of jointly own the rec district owns that park. >> Yeah. >> So, we I know we pay share to be a part of that. >> Yeah, >> I'm on the board for that committee. Um, so yeah. Um, I don't know, [clears throat] a lot of questions, but everyone seems to be moving forward with the right sorts of questions. >> Good. All right. Here. Thanks. >> And you have anything for still on time. >> Um, the school's starting to be nice. had the sheriff make his way out to Hering Brook. >> There's a lot of kids getting on the bus and their parents like to fly down here in Brook. There's teachers that are going to work that fly down here in Brook at 6:30 in the morning. And >> so that's when you see him 6:30 in the morningish. >> Yep. Um I don't know who he is. There's a guy who lives all the way at the top of the hill and he just about hits me every morning. So, about putting a speed trailer up there to start with before school. >> Yeah. I mean, that can't hurt, but certainly >> what maybe it bring some awareness to, >> right? >> Yeah. I think the people the people who were out there are going to >> maybe actually that might not be a good spot to put the the speed trail. [clears throat] >> There's not a lot of room. >> Try to set some records. Maybe set some records, you know, target practice, all sorts of stuff like that. >> There was I just I had someone I'm looking on my phone here. I had a text from someone who wanted that that speed thing as we're talking about it. Um 100 talking. Uh, Carol Lombard. Lumbard. Carol Lombard. Uh, Camp Navajo. Camp. >> Yep. It's um where the tractor trailer accident was. >> Oh, okay. >> Just past it. Right there. >> All right. So, um, do you like to see that? It's >> right in the section where Brett wanted it. >> Yeah, right where Brett is as well. So I think there's a couple people. So if we can ask to to get it there, it's probably um >> it's more in the visible so less apt to beized. All right. So [clears throat] back and I don't think the class four committees met yet either. So, I don't know what's holding then the the road group. Not the big group. >> Yeah. What was the alternate date? Can't remember the email. I feel like enough people respond. >> No, it wasn't that one. It's the the one to go out and check the road. [snorts] >> The appointed three. Yeah, the appointed three. >> Oh, like you, Martin, and Sean, right? >> Yes. >> Doesn't the group have to No. Okay. Mm- >> Okay. Well, yeah. I think >> All right. Yeah. [clears throat] So, you got to go get together, right? >> Yeah. I think that's I think that's it. >> All right. So, >> the New England [snorts] Tax Collectors Conference is in Vermont this year as well in Stow. >> Are you uh going? >> Yeah. It's three 2 and 1/2 days. 2 and 1/2 days. >> So, are you using a sharing going to that? >> What tax collectors >> conference? >> It's going to be a busy September. >> So, what does that tell us a little bit about that? >> Um, so my phone I have the agenda. Yeah, I >> was going to say when I'm asking that's why I was asking whether it's something for Craig to go. Let's see. Northeast Regional. I know they're doing a bunch of stuff with AI and tax collection, internal controls. um forensic fraud examination, streamlining, tax collection, focused fraud prevention. Um >> that might be >> for AI for finance. >> You guys could be interested in that. I was thinking more was tax collector, but maybe do you mind passing that on to um Sasha? I should be take that. >> Yeah, >> Sasha and Cherylyn if maybe get together on that. Yeah, I just got the email cuz um the Vermont Governmental Finance Group sent it out. So, all right. So, we're right about next agenda item. Well, I have a few things that I can get to later is the Pony Farm Road parking issues. How you doing, folks? Put your chairs on. >> Michael, nice to meet you. >> Sam, Sam and Alex. Thank you. Thanks for taking the time to come in tonight. Um, I know Don has been in communication with you for a couple years now talking about this. And the reason we wanted to talk to you is because had several complaints over the years um some people have had personal experience um with trying to get off or on to Pony Farm Road with your cars being in the road. And so, you know, a couple of weeks ago, we uh as boards talked about it again, decided at that point because it hasn't changed and we've asked in a few different times, we made a decision, all right, going forward, we need to contact the sheriff and have them take care of it because it's becoming a liability and a danger um is actually >> and I've had interactions. I know the calling about it and I've had interactions with five you talking once. Yes. >> Your husband was >> Yeah. You can go first. >> Okay. 2012. >> Yeah. >> And I know part of that space that's now paved um was dirt. And then there was no confusion about what was my driveway. when the town put pavement on it then now all of a sudden people think oh it's not part of my land I can show you I measured it out and I have >> sure why she's doing that um the I was at the trans district 66 today and the legal um entry onto town highway is three rods 49.5 [snorts] from the entry the the turn off there. >> This is um the best to just stand there and show you like ft. >> So I just just so you have a little information. Um the regulations from town highway onto a state highway is 49.5 three rods measuring out at 42 ft. [clears throat] Okay. >> So, technically people are cutting that corner off and it's actually more [clears throat] dangerous for them to come down on an angle than it is that have marked pavement or travel lanes to where they actually come onto the road like this. They can see that way, they can see that way [snorts] as opposed to coming this way where all they're doing is look at the rearview mirror blowing through that stop sign and that's more dangerous than anything. And then you also have the issue that if you really want to get technical, that turn right off of 100 B up the hill is actually not um I don't want to say legal cuz that's not the right term, but that is not an actual >> um regulation. people go way over the other side by the stop sign >> to make that curve. >> The people at the VR said that's actually the regulations that turn there. >> It doesn't mean cuz it's a steep. >> So you're saying like people shouldn't >> technically that that should not be a right turn. >> Mhm. >> And but I for that I'm just curious. Yeah. I'm just saying I'm just saying I'm just saying that for opening a pony road is way past what any road opening is happen. So what I like to suggest is um if maybe two two members from the select board and Martin were to go and go to meet there on on site you know >> um because the you know I've been there and I've walked through this um with Phil and >> Sure and and I've driven it myself and I and now when you do come down on the the way it's angled you that That's what you do. You look in your mirror cuz there's no way you could turn your head, you know. >> But when you come down at a different angle into the road, you can then look, you know, so that you know, in other words, you >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> You don't come down, you come down like that, you know? >> Right. >> And and that would change, you know, like they're saying, if if it wasn't it's literally paved right into their land, you know, right? Do >> you have a way of property? We have a hand we [clears throat] have like a a hand drawn diagram of on our deed. >> Um >> or does it say does your deed meets some bounds? Does it describe like the >> uh I have wine distance >> when they put the yeah the well when the well was put in it. They do have like a hand in that but yeah >> come down and check it out. They show [clears throat] 14 ft and you can see where the >> the land post is too. >> Sorry, let me interrupt you. Yeah, >> it it's behind the the mail office. >> Yeah. Would you mind sending the like could you just take a picture like or bring it into the office and they could scan it or something so we have it so we can >> Yeah. And I mean, you can clearly see where they put the new pavement because I think there something about it was washing out or something [clears throat] off the road, but and technically that stop sign is so far back there should be a painted stop bar on that road. Anyways, if you drive any of these roads coming under 100 ft, they all have painted stop bars where people should be stopped. And I feel and I feel if you put the markers at the I mean 49.5 you know stay within the state regulation coming out of the room that would bring you far enough out and it would also stop people to make that stop >> and look [clears throat] on site you'll see >> yeah I mean I drive it I mean I think if and we I think Don just suggests maybe two of us come there Martin and then maybe from that and right we'll get your survey look at it but maybe from that I think you know cuz like none of us are surveyors so if we were going to mark out the 49 the three broads like then someone right has to like pinpoint the center of the road >> correct >> and then you can right okay we can put our paint outside of that but so like none of us including Martin could say oh this is the center of the road >> correct get a visual on on it and >> yeah yeah but what I'm saying is like we're the physical center of 100 ft is right now might not be the center of the actual survey road. Right. So I'm saying like yeah we don't Yeah. If we met and that's an option like we need to know where the actual center is, not just where the center of the current use space [clears throat] is. >> Right. You guys have record of when that last paving was done and where they covered the bottom of my driveway. >> Yeah. Well, actually I right here I July [clears throat] 2009 and actually I have August 2025 just maps and >> I'm not seeing a lot of difference >> but you know those guys Yeah. >> Oh but it's still dirt. >> It's dirt. Yeah. Then you have the paint. So what's the difference? cuz [snorts] that means >> and people wasn't part of the river. >> So, do you know is there a particular a better time? >> Is there a particular time that we could schedule uh coming there? You know, when we'll figure out which, you know, it might be myself or Mike or Tom. I don't know who elected, but I mean, you know, But we also want to schedule by 5:30 >> Monday through Friday. >> Oh, so that Okay. What time what's in the in the morning? What time could we do some we leave by like 7:30? Usually >> morning 7:30. >> Yeah. I mean, cuz that's not out of the question. Come at 7. I don't know if that marketing starts at 6, you know. I mean, if we reschedu >> most of this, >> yeah, I'm awake. >> Yeah, I mean >> Thursdays and Fridays I can if if there's a time before, how late does work? >> He doesn't work on Friday. >> Friday. Yeah. So, >> Friday, I can try to be home. I work on Thursday. [clears throat] >> Thursday. >> Yeah. He works till 3:00 or he starts at 6:00 and goes to 3. >> Oh, 4:00 4:30. We could make it with Martin. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I I couldn't do this Thursday. Uh I'm going to be gone for work, but I could do probably like any other Thursday. >> The following Thursday. That would be my time to schedule it, too. So, >> all right. I have your contact. So, we'll >> Sorry. I got a clarifying question on here. When you guys are going to go out, I mean the trying to figure out is the cars are either parking on town property or on their property, right? So, how are we going to determine that when you go and visit the site? >> I think we're just going to look and maybe decide some next steps cuz it seems like we almost need to survey it, right? It's either town property or it's not. It's not. >> Well, it's also it's also the angle, Sam. the way you come down off that road, the angle what they're it's kind of encroached the way the road comes down now. It's kind of kind of right into >> I totally get that the road doesn't affect whether or not it's town property, right? Like it's >> or it's in the rightway, >> right? It's either the rightway town property or it's their property. >> What is it a travel plan or is it a town property? >> Like I don't know the technical term, but it's either >> I mean >> time to figure it out. is the kind of ordinance for travel lanes versus town property. >> I think it's probably a right of way um >> right away versus traveled lanes. That's what we that's where you got to do a little research and and see the difference. >> Well, I think the bottom line is just come up with a a solution that's going to work and be safe for everybody. Yeah, we driveway and people coming flying past. They don't even You can sit there and watch our video tape it for you one day. >> Sure. >> Nobody even stops at that stop sign. >> And if we're backing out and they're blasting down that hill, it's just as dangerous for us. And somebody going on proper turn and being inconvenienced because they can't speed down the hill with their big ass truck or whatever they're driving. >> So, it's just as much safety to us. >> Yeah. >> For it to be All right. The whole point here is just as Don says, we're just trying to figure out how >> Yeah. It makes it safe. >> I was trying to be one at a time. Just want to make sure the plows >> I talked to the crew. We We won't win our band anyways from November to whatever. So I I don't want to make their job any harder, which will park up then, but we'll make it happen during winter. But you know during the summer time having work hard trying to do jocking. >> Yeah. And how would you say for everybody? >> Okay. >> All right. >> So hopefully a week from uh that would be what's the date? Um >> 27. >> That would be the 27th. So like 4 and I'll confirm with you. >> Also I had another issue since you were talking about the speed clock at your house. Um the jade breaking around those corners and and the speed and the speeds. I mean there's kids that walk to school that have to go over the rails every morning especially in the winter time but you know we sidewalks up to the >> Yeah. that corner is pretty scary. Yeah. >> Yeah. Don's on the safety committee and things and they were it was just uh last time we were last meeting you had our rep last time our state rep going over the noise. There's a bill that's trying to get off the wall that someone won't do anything on. >> Thanks a lot. And you in the meantime, do you mind getting like some your survey, you know, to us digitally or whatever somehow? >> Picture. >> Yeah. If that's an actual survey or even just a site plan just so we have more information. You guys did you guys had a historical survey too cuz when I was talking to two friends today, they're having the same issue over in Randolph Center and the guy said that a lot of it's not historically uh resolved. >> Yeah, there would be a survey of the road but I mean just to start like you know you can get us that site planner just more information >> just before we get to the meeting >> things are always important, >> right? Yeah. Cuz you might have cuz even if what you have as a survey might not be recorded in the town right in the town's office and if you guys have it handy then >> just yeah >> cool thank you very much anything else as far as >> a couple things one thing I had I have a guy um from CAI technology ology Rossi called me. Did any of you guys um ask Travis to call him or tell Travis to call him for information? No. No. >> Yes, there was an email from Michael said for you to this was meeting last year. Uh I think I Yeah, I can't remember what it's about, but I think probably I said if you have questions to contact him. I don't know. >> Yeah, it was >> I can't remember that even any question on that. Yeah, just because I didn't know I do and he's wondering why people are reaching out to him. So, well, we're reaching out to him because uh my parents survey uh was never included and it currently shows the rightway going through my dad's garage and that was resolved in 20122 and that information was forwarded to uh Carol Chamberlain and it was also uh he asked me CI technologies asked me for that information and I sent it to him >> also. So they asked you to call contact them. >> Well, no, he asked for the information of the survey, the centerline database, the uh certification from V trains. And I don't know why that's still showing. And Michael Brown has also uh delivered paperwork to Rachel Z for uh stream alteration that did not include the s the the paperwork that was included in that litigation. >> Wait, you're saying I provided paperwork to Rachel Zar or >> That's not true. >> You had had your email address on it. I've only ever corresponded with her by email. I've never provided her with anything and I've never met her in person cuz she kept canceling. >> You may have uh forward your information to another individual. Can't remember his name. Uh Butch Butch. And he may have forward it to her. >> Okay. So, >> I mean, is that pertinent to anything we're doing today? >> Yes. Yes, it is. Because um >> Well, no, hold on. Tom asked you a question and now you're bringing up an email that I supposedly sent to Rachel Zar. We'll just say that's how to pronounce her name, but that's nothing to do with tonight, Travis. I mean, >> uh, what it has pertained to is this legal right away that's been resolved in [clears throat] 2022 that is currently still being showed [sighs] >> [snorts and clears throat] >> uh four years later on a map of uh, CI. And that's why I originally asked you about CI and that's why you originally >> provided that information. >> So I guess do we need to circle back with >> Franco was it called back? >> Oh. >> So is that going to get resolved that uh that right away going through my parents garage right now? I mean can that get resolved through the town or not? very much >> Travis in the midst of some other communication with him did send that to me and [snorts] we need to send that information to CI to make corrections. We find different things on here that need corrections every once in a while. We send it to them. It takes some time. It's not an immediate fix, right? >> So, that information has been sent along and I'm sure will be adjusted when they >> Great. Great. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. All right. So, that's all I have as far as we have Carol. I said that's how the name is pronounced. You got that Sasha. >> Um I think that's it. >> Well, I I did have one other thing that I asked the question about that. So just in terms of the town hall [sighs] revitalization project, right? Um I know that one of those meetings that we had a month or so ago was to maybe also just circle back with the Mtown um finance committee. So, do we who would is it Cheryl Lyn who would know when the next meeting is or I mean is and I believe that was what one of the outcomes of the meeting that we had when they were here the board and we were talking about the town hall was that the select board thought that that the town hall committee should work you know with the finance committee so >> I follow the next I think I thought they said something about um bicep tumor or something like that. >> Oh yeah. So, okay. So we'll reach out to them cuz you know we're just trying to get a little organized so that you know if December is going to come quick and if we do make any sort of decision you know come December January that you know we we have you know we don't wait till the last minute to be working on getting the [clears throat] information we need to get and the community outreach and such. So, okay. All right. The other kind of, you know, old business or um getting old business. Um, we start I know I haven't given any dates, but we're going to start on our uh budgeting process a little earlier this year. So, if you can start just being this week throughout, you know, uh some email say look at we're uh start to think about the budgets. Um [snorts] >> yeah because that would help facilitate to have your saving. >> Yeah. Well that's the idea to have everything you know they're really any budget stuff is trying to um the biggest thing is the rope department. uh that and any other expenses that we have as far as um matches that we see coming um or any other projects facility projects >> um you know we've been talking administrator uh >> you know that's something >> you know so I think the sooner that you start with that >> cuz I don't and the storm later than on that grandmother. I mean, we're all experiencing it this summer. Um, things are really busy. There's a lot of stuff going on and there's we all have other things. We all have other jobs, but Don, but Don's got, you know, he does five or six committee things. So, he's he's busy, too. He likes to have a little retirement. So, you know, I'm all I, you know, try to figure this out. So, we have someone that can manage the place, oversee stuff. Um, and then whether it's an administrator or manager, which is probably a little strong at this point. Um, but you know, something to uh to coordinate and kind of oversee this, I think, is neat. Yeah, they would do most of the budgeting process. >> Yeah, they could get everything. Um, a lot of the stuff that even we were handling with the Piaza stuff, you know, running to court, doing that type of stuff. >> They do all, you know, all that stuff. I mean, Mike, you have pretty good [clears throat] experience with that talking to administrators and other kind of offices, >> right? You know, they saf, >> right? Right. Handle a lot of random stuff. So I think sort of that and then uh you know whether we need money in the budget for a position like that which might be a little premature but we might need to to hire someone to to figure that out for us. You know I hate to get into consulting and hire consultants and things like that but um I think it probably might be good to have someone come in and look at you know, and maybe BLCT off or something like that. >> Well, yeah. I I I spent some time talking with York, who's the town administrator in Weightsfield. I didn't bring my notes today. He g actually gave me a list of the stuff that he does. You know, granted, Weightsfield's got a lot more businesses stuff. So, but um but he did say the VLCT thing is a really good thing. And then there's a gentleman in St. Albins's um I can't think of his name but VLCT is works with or is someone that we can contact who helps towns just you know helps with this. >> Oh [snorts] >> yeah. Well no I mean I think he's the town administrator in St. but he helps or even helps through VLCT towns figure this out or something. I not quite clear but next meeting I'll try to have some clarity. You also have stone shore you know consulting what touch I don't know what is >> um I [snorts] can't forens >> yep so I mean he helps with all of it putting out stuff for staffing studies capital improvement plans all of that stuff I know he did he worked on the bits and information stuff for our staffing especially in Berlin. He did worked on the capital improvement plan and so he looks a bunch of stuff. He's fabulous to work with. >> Okay. And what was his name? Sorry. >> Ron Rejenski. >> Ronki. Ron. >> That's my I think there's somebody else too. Is that what it was? >> Yeah. Stone Municipal Consulting. Yeah, there's a couple little leads. Okay, great. >> So, hopefully I can give everybody an update next meeting. >> All right. Um, so Mike, you and Don, you want to be the other person that comes? >> Yeah, the ones that are gone. Yeah, we'll I'll reach out tomorrow. >> And so on the >> 27th at 4:00. >> Yep. >> August 27 with Martin, right? >> Yeah. >> Y >> Okay, >> we can do that. >> Make sure you do that after each. >> Yeah, I think we would do it after. >> Maybe you're going to go down to Sam's. >> Yeah, there we go. There we go. Get there. All right. Uh that old business. Is there anything else that we have there that's needs to be uh addressed tonight? Nothing. All right. So, we have this to the side >> minutes. I'll make a motion to approve this minutes of Monday, August 3rd, 2026. >> Any changes or questions on this? >> All in favor? Is there a second? All right. Um, if there's no questions or concerns about them, all in favor I >> I Okay. Thank you. All right. So, um, this first amendment, amendment number three, request is a, um, below is a request for amendment for a contract $3,500. We That's the This is from D Boyce and Baker. It's just their amendment to it's amendment number three. It's just adding on to what we've done. Uh current contract value is 84,000. Amendment if approved will increase the value by 7,000. Uh making the revised contract 91,853. Um this was uh sent to us by uh Ken and it's um behalf of Charles. This was this on I don't know if we had agility to approve. Is that something that we need to do or can we just go ahead and uh process this building? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So why don't we uh make sure this is not looking at we can do this at the next meeting. We just next meeting. All right. Um this is just revised um the color. Nothing we can do about that. They make it um that change to save the purpose of structural concrete. I [snorts] think the explanation is uh they found SC another 13,3 $13,512.50. Next we have the Department of Liquor Control. This is the tobacco license. Um, and the liquor license first class liquor license and the tobacco license and tobacco itself. What's that? >> There's three different licenses. Tobacco, liquor, and I think it's just their annual for Stewart. >> Yeah. [snorts] >> Yeah. It says that umbrella is >> Oh, the tobacco substitute endorsement like vapes and stuff like that. >> Yeah. This is the contract the salt sha that we moved last week or last time back to us. That's it. And then the just the regular watch there. Was [clears throat] there an email that we were did we need to go into executive discussion or something or >> No, Ron's out of time. Ron, everything's out of town. So, he's seems like it's going fine. Okay. That S curve down there. I was coming back into more town the other day and 100 ft. This woman was her dog. She was walking against traffic so her back to me when I came around the corner just like a miracle she didn't get hit. >> We had known by their house upstairs there. Oh, right around that corner there. She's walking on the wrong side of the road with a little dog. >> Yes. >> I don't know how people when I see people out walking. How how people walk is attracted to them, you know? Right. Yeah. >> Yeah. I mean, you think that's a given that everybody would I don't know how you don't know that. >> So, I will say on Haring Brook when I'm coming back down, I do walk on the wrong side of the road cuz there's a blind corner. >> Well, there's certain cases when you >> No, no, you just do what we Yeah. Blind really bad line corner. Well, >> yeah. Over here, the same thing. >> We did the same with the curve there walking the dog across like no one can see this, >> right? And that's how it is with that. >> Yeah. Okay. Good. Anyone [snorts] know who uh Ingred knows? She's know who she is. [snorts] >> Hi, we just moved on Farm Road. >> Hi, Ingred. How are you? >> Well, thank you. Good. You >> came out of nowhere. [laughter] welcome to come to the meetings live if you want to do that just down and come to the meetings. >> Come to the meetings. >> Yeah, we got some you can join [snorts] too as well. >> Thank you. I we have two little kids we have to put to bed. So, this is the best option for us right now. But thank you. >> Okay. Well, glad you joined. >> Welcome to town. Where did she move into? Um we are from Maine and New Hampshire originally, but we were in um north end of Massachusetts. I was working at a boarding school. >> Oh, nice. >> Yeah. >> No, so I'm on Pony Farm Road. Where what area this? >> Oh, we're at um 397. >> Oh, nice. [snorts] Well, again, welcome. Any um anything that uh do the town office? Sasha here is our town administ not administrator, town. [laughter] Is he already? >> Yeah, there you go. Come on in if you have any questions. >> Yeah. And do you know about Morfest? >> Um I read about it on from Portum. Yeah. >> Yeah. So that's on September 19th. It's I think what 2 I think 2 or 4:00 in the afternoon. >> 4:00. >> And uh it's quite a community gathering. You should put it on your calendar if you can make it. your kids is kids activities and all kinds of stuff. >> Amazing. Thank you. >> Yeah. Good way to meet people and all that. All right, well, thank you guys. Mike, why don't you come out with a watch? >> Oh, you're getting nothing. >> I'm keeping my stickies. >> Do you have anything else? I don't >> I only sign the front sheet. So, >> no, she's she's signing it off on, >> right? >> All the other stuff >> all the other stuff you you get out of >> and all the uh time she looks at the markers and that stuff. I try so I don't have to find keep an eye on flip through always amazing >> the money is the things that stuff we have to do you know you know a town needs to keep Oh. Oh Here. >> Yeah. School drop off. >> Yeah. >> Who do you have for the honor that's coming in? Yeah. Do you Sarah? >> No. Jordan's coming. >> I am not impressed. >> Have you ever had anybody? There was a girl that came in at the beginning, but I this year this year she's just Oh, I know. So this is all good. All right. [snorts] So I need to journal discussion. All in favor I I [music]