Ministerial Statement: Ferguson Marine: Planned Investment and Future Business - 17 September 2026
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The Ministerial Statement by Steven Flynn addresses the critical situation at Ferguson Marine, emphasizing that nationalization was essential to prevent the loss of Scotland's last commercial shipyard on the Clyde and to protect hundreds of skilled jobs. The government has reaffirmed its commitment to the yard's future by planning a program that includes contracts for four new vessels: two ferries for island communities, a marine protection vessel, and a marine research vessel. These projects are designed not only to serve immediate national needs but also to modernize the facility, enhance its competitiveness against global rivals who benefit from lower costs, and ensure the long-term sustainability of Scotland's maritime industrial base.
However, the path forward is complicated by significant legal and financial hurdles that require careful management. The proposed support package involves a mandatory referral to the Competition and Markets Authority (CMA) under the Subsidy Control Act to ensure public funds are used appropriately and that the policy aligns with economic justification. While the government acknowledges the uncertainty faced by workers, particularly regarding the lack of contracted work scheduled for 2027 after the delivery of the MV Glen Rosa, Flynn highlights that immediate challenges stem from global market competition rather than a lack of technical capability at the yard. To bridge this gap and maintain productive activity, the government has agreed to support a proposal for building a small number of tugboats, which serves as a commercial interim measure to retain skills and workforce momentum while awaiting final decisions on the larger vessel contracts.
During the subsequent question period, opposition members expressed deep concern over the lack of concrete timelines and the potential for job losses, arguing that previous promises of a secure pipeline of work have not materialized. The Cabinet Secretary defended the government's position by explaining the complexity of complying with UK-wide subsidy control laws and the CMA process, which dictates the timeline for final awards. He clarified that the previously announced £14.2 million in capital investment remains on the table but is contingent upon the successful delivery of the four vessels and necessary infrastructure upgrades. The Minister also addressed concerns about workforce stability, noting that voluntary redundancy schemes are being managed to transition the yard toward a more efficient operating model while actively seeking ways to secure further direct awards for routes like Dunoon and Gourock to support local communities.
In conclusion, the statement underscores a dual objective: delivering essential vessels to island and coastal communities while simultaneously transforming Ferguson Marine into a commercially viable entity capable of competing in the open market. The government's strategy relies on a combination of public investment, strict adherence to legal frameworks, and commercial initiatives like the tugboat program to provide certainty during a transitional period. Despite opposition criticism regarding perceived delays and lack of financial transparency, the Minister maintains that these steps are necessary to safeguard the yard's future, preserve critical skills, and ensure that Scotland continues to play a vital role in shipbuilding for future generations. The session ended with a vote on an amendment related to health misinformation, marking the conclusion of the debate on Ferguson Marine's planned investment and future business.
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That concludes the debate on addressing
the harms of health misinformation. The
next item of business is a statement by
Steven Flynn on Ferguson Marine planned
investment in future business. Questions
will be taken at the end of the
statement. There should be no
interruption or interventions. I call on
Steven Flynn to 10 minutes, please.
>> Thank you very much, presiding officer,
and I welcome this opportunity to update
Parliament on Ferguson Marine. Before I
do so, it is important to remember how
we arrived at this point. Ferguson
Marine entered public ownership
following the collapse of its previous
private owners. Without intervention,
Scotland could have lost its last
commercial shipyard on the Clyde along
with hundreds of skilled jobs and an
important industrial capability.
Nationalization
protected jobs, retained skills, and
safeguarded a significant part of
Scotland's industrial base. Today,
Ferguson Marine remains a major employer
in Berkeley and an important contributor
to Scotland's maritime economy. It has
built vessels that operate in Scotland
and around the world and has a
well-earned reputation for the skills of
its workers and the quality of its
apprenticeship scheme. I'm aware of the
strong public interest in the yard and
know members across parliament recognize
the importance of retaining industrial
capability, preserving vital skills and
supporting Enver Clyde's future. Our
program for government reaffirmed our
commitment to Ferguson Marine and today
I will update Parliament on the work
being undertaken to support a
sustainable future for the yard. Now in
March this year we announced our
intention to award contract for four
vessels to Ferguson Marine subject to
detailed due diligence and assurance
processes. These comprise two fairies
from the small vessel replacement
program, a marine protection vessel and
a marine research vessel. The fairies
will serve the sound of Harris and the
sound of bar roots supporting vital
connections for island communities. The
marine protection vessel and marine
research vessel will support Scotland's
marine environment and wider national
priorities. We expect that each vessel
will serve our country for many years to
come and therefore is right that our
technical and procurement experts take
the time to conclude robust due
diligence. The proposed vessel program
forms part of a wider package of support
intended to modernize the yard,
strengthen its cap competitiveness, and
improve its long-term sustainability.
Ministers must be satisfied that the
program provides value for money,
complies with procurement and subsidy
control requirements, and represents an
appropriate use of public funds. Since
March, alongside procurement activity to
develop vessel designs and the
governance needed to support timely
delivery, Scottish government officials,
Ferguson Marine senior leadership team
and external adviserss have worked
intensively to assess the the viability
of the wider transformation program.
This has included reviewing and
challenging the yard's business plan,
testing assumptions, delivery proposals,
and financial projections, and analyzing
Ferguson Marine's contribution to the
local and national economy to inform an
evidence-based case for public
investment. Like everyone who cares
about Ferguson Marine, I want this work
to move forward as quickly as possible.
It is equally important that decisions
are evidence-based, transparent, and
capable of withstanding scrutiny. That
is why we are taking the necessary
specialist advice and doing everything
we can to protect public funds and
ensure decisions are made transparently
and responsibly. The chamber would
expect nothing less. Presiding officer,
there has been considerable interest in
the role of the competition and markets
authority in this process. To establish
that a subsidy is lawful, the Scottish
government must prepare a detailed
principles assessment demonstrating that
the policy rationale, economic case, and
commercial justification align with
subsidy control requirements. The
technical requirements for each vessel
must be developed sufficiently to allow
Ferguson Marine to prefer designs,
delivery plans, and cost estimates.
Those estimates are then assessed
through independent technical,
commercial, and financial scrutiny.
Due to the nature and value of the
proposed support package, the subsidy
control act requires a mandatory
referral to the CMA. The CMA does not
approve or reject proposals. Its role is
to independently assess the evidence and
publish advice which ministers must
carefully consider before reaching a
decision. This is an important safeguard
that helps ensure any support package is
supported by credible evidence and
robust analysis. Scottish government
officials continue to engage closely
with the CMA and under the current
timetable we expect the principal's
assessment to be submitted for formal
pre-referral assessment in the coming
weeks with a final submission following
thereafter. The resulting report will
inform the will inform the decision
ministers ultimately take and I will
continue to keep parliament updated on
key milestones. Presiding officer in
planning for Ferguson Marine's long-term
future, I am also conscious of the
immediate challenges facing the
business. MV Glen Rosa is the final
vessel currently under contract, and
once delivered, the yard has no
contracted ship building work scheduled
for 2027.
Without a future pipeline of work, the
business faces significant challenges in
retaining skills and securing long-term
sustainability. Let me be clear, this
issue is not technical capability.
Ferguson Marine retains a highly skilled
workforce. The challenge is competing in
a global market where many overseas
shipyards benefit from lower costs and
greater scale. That is why vessel
opportunities, business transformation,
and capital investment are being
considered as part of a single program
to modernize a yard and strengthen
competitiveness. Investment to date has
focused on essential repairs, health and
safety improvements, and targeted
equipment upgrades. Any future
investment will remain subject to the
wider business case and subsidy
assessment process and will be directed
towards supporting a more sustainable
operating model. Presiding officer, I
also want to address the voluntary
redundancy consultation currently
underway at Ferguson Marine. No
compulsory redundancies are proposed and
participation in the scheme is entirely
voluntary. The company considers that
these changes will support the
transition to a more modern, efficient
and competitive operating model. As
shareholder, the Scottish government
sought assurances that the proposals
have been subject to proper governance
and oversight and an appropriate
business case before consultation
commenced. Having received these
assurances, I have agreed the workforce
changes are necessary to support the
long-term future of the art. Separately,
officials continue to work with Ferguson
Marines leadership team to manage the
periods between completion of MB Glen
Rosa and the proposed direct awards. As
part of these discussions, the business
has requested working capital to enable
it to build a small number of tugboats
for subsequent sale into commercial
markets. I have agreed that this
proposal should be taken forward because
I agree with the board that it
represents a sensible commercial
approach to maintaining productive
activity within the yard following
delivery of MV Glen Rosa. It has the
potential to retain critical ship
building capability and workforce skills
during an important period for the
business. I have therefore asked
officials to work with the company to
progress the necessary commercial,
financial and governance arrangement as
quickly as possible. This work is
separate from the broader program of
vessel opportunities, investment and
transformation currently under
consideration. Presiding officer, I want
to place on record my thanks to everyone
who has taken a constructive interest in
Ferguson Marine, including trade unions,
local communities, industry partners,
and members across parliament. Above
all, I want to thank the workforce. I
recognize that this remains a period of
uncertainty for many employees and their
families. Despite that uncertainty, they
continue to demonstrate professionalism,
resilience, and commitment while
delivering MV Glen Rosa and supporting
the future of the yard. The skills they
possess are of enormous value, and they
matter to the future of Scottish ship
building. I believe Ferguson Marine can
have a strong future as a modern and
competitive shipyard. Our ambition is
not simply to preserve Ferguson Marine.
is to strengthen Scotland's commercial
ship building capability, retain
critical skills, and ensure the CLI
continues to play an important role in
our maritime and industrial economy. I
also want to be clear to island and
coastal communities that delivery of
these vessels remains every bit as
important as securing a sustainable
future for Ferguson Marine. The
communities they rely on that rely on
these services need modern reliable
vessels and they need them as soon as
possible. The work we are undertaking is
intended to achieve both objectives
because this is about more than a single
shipyard. It's about retaining the
capability needed to support ferry
services, protect our marine environment
and sustain commercial ship building in
Scotland for future generations. Thank
you presiding officer. Thank you,
Cabinet Secretary. We're in 20 minutes
for questions on the issues raised.
Members wishing to ask a question should
press the request to speak buttons
now. And I call Gem Simpson. Thank you,
presiding officer, and can I thank the
cabinet secretary for advanced sight of
the statement. However, um it will come
as no comfort to workers at the yard.
There's no contracted ship building work
for 2027.
We've known about the legal issues
around a direct award for years, but in
March, Kate Forbes announced the
intention to award four vessels to the
yard. She called it a watershed moment
and said there was a clear pipeline of
work. Now there's no contract, no
watershed, and no pipeline of work,
apart from maybe some speculative tug
building. Steven Flynn appears to have
rode back on that announcement. He told
us today um that the government doesn't
know whether the program provides value
for money. That needs to be assessed.
That's what's in his statement. uh
whether it uh complies with procurement
and subsidy control requirements or
represents an appropriate use of public
funds. So when will workers uh be told
uh whether there will be a direct award?
What happens to the yard without the
direct award? Where will the work go if
it's not offered? How much working
capital is being requested for the
tugboat program? How many vessels are
envisaged? Are there customers out
there? And after years of public
ownership and substantial public
expenditure, what is the government's
timetable for Ferguson Marine becoming
genuinely competitive and capable of
winning commercial contracts?
>> Gavin secretary.
>> Yes. Thank you, Presiding. Officer, I'm
a little bit unsure as to whether Mr.
Simpson supports the additional
proposals in respect to Ferguson Marino
whether he wants the yard to simply
close because it would be closed if it
wasn't for this SMP government and
decisions that we took in years gone by
and I will come to his points because I
think he has confused presiding officer
me explaining the process that legal
complex legal process that we must go
through in relation to the the CMA as me
putting doubt on in relation to the four
vessels I did nothing of the sort and he
should listen more clearly not just in
relation to that but in relation to the
points I've made with regards to the
tugboats because we want to offer
certainty to the yard to ensure it has a
pipeline of work into next year which is
why I have agreed that the proposal for
the tugboats should be taken forward
because I agree with the board that it
represents a s sensible commercial
approach. It would be good to hear from
Mr. Simpson and his party whether they
support investment in Ember Clyde or
not.
>> Neil Bby
>> the
>> the cabinet secretary stated the
government's actions have been driven by
the need to protect jobs. That's why I
and others on these benches supported
the nationalization of the yard. Yet now
up to 70 workers are set to lose their
jobs on his watch. and not one of the
many ministers responsible for the
ferious fiasco have lost theirs. Why
does the cabinet secretary support these
redundancies when the GMBB have warned
the yard risks losing vital experience
and it goes against the government's
previous stated aim? The GMBB are also
warning it will take a year to cut the
steel for the four vessels designated
for direct award. Does the cabinet
secretary therefore accept the urgency
of this situation for islanders and
workers? And is he confident that he
will deliver on the government's promise
of direct award to the yard?
>> Cabinet Secretary,
>> thank you. Uh thank you presiding off
and I'm glad that someone uh within the
chamber on the opposition benches
recogniz recognizes the the purposeful
and right decision that we made to
nationalize the yard in order to protect
it long into the future. With regards to
the point that I think Mr. Bby was
making in respect of what happens next,
I have outlined very clearly the process
that we must comply with in relation to
the subsidy control act and the CMA
moving forward. Those are requirements
that are set down by the UK Parliament
and we are responding to that
accordingly and I will update Parliament
as swiftly as I can as outlined in my
statement once I know the specific
answers to the points that the CMA will
likely make in respect to the desire to
take forward the direct award. With
regards to the workforce, I think that
the announcement I've made today in
respect of the opportunity to move
forward into a commercial space with
regards to the tugboats will be
something that is welcomed by the
workforce because it will give them the
opportunity to put their expert skills
to use and to evidence that this yard
can be turned around and can be
commercially viable long into the
future. So through the tugboats, through
the four future vessels, we are
investing in Ferguson's to make sure
that this yard can deliver for Ember
Clyde and deliver for Scotland long into
the future. And I'm sure Mr. Bby would
agree with those sentiments.
>> McMillan,
>> thank you. Thank you, presiding officer.
First of all, I do welcome the
announcement regarding the funding for
tugboats and see this very much as an
interim measure towards a brighter and
more sustainable future for the yard as
the cabinet secretary spoke about the
the four vessels previously announced.
But quite frankly, any work going to the
yard is something that is very much as
good news if it helps to maintain
experienced workers but also the
apprentices so that when we do get more
work, we actually have a workforce that
can deliver. But on the statement that
the cabinet secretary has spoken about
today, does the and I quote the future
investment uh mentioned in the statement
does that include the 14.2 million
pounds of capital investment previous
announced by the government or is that
additional monies and also with regards
to the CMA principles assessment once
that is submitted or the pre assessment
is submitted what is the time scale for
that information to come back from the
CME? Thank you
>> cabinet secretary. Thank you to to Mr.
McMillan for for his questions. I know
he has been a fierce advocate for
Ferguson's over very many years and
that's reflected in the support he has
in his local community. With respect to
the 14.2 million pounds of outstanding
investment to to upgrade infrastructure
within the yard, that is obviously very
much still on the table and is directly
related to the future delivery of the
the four vessels that are going to be
taking place as part of the direct
award. It's important that those things
happen in tandem to support productivity
at the yards. In relation to the CMA, I
I think it's important that I be very
clear with the chamber that I don't
decide the the timelines or the answers
that the CMA can give us. But what I can
do is advise the chamber very clearly
that I will take the response from the
CMA very seriously, which is why we are
putting a significant amount of work
into making sure that we provide them
with all of the relevant details that
they require.
>> Patrick Harvey,
>> the uh Greens also welcomed the action
that was taken to save the yard and we
want to see modernization work so that
this uh yard is not only viable but
thriving into the future. But I remain a
little unclear about the long-term
intentions of the government. Is it the
cabinet secretary's view that a business
like this should only remain in public
hands while it's struggling and in need
of support? Or should a future vibrant
and successful future for this yard
remain in public hands so that in the
long term it operates in the interest of
the public sector and the workforce.
>> Cabinet Secretary,
>> I appreciate Mr. Harvey's desire to talk
long into the to the future in terms of
what the future of the yard could look
like um a a date unspecified in time.
He'll he'll appreciate that my focus
right now is very much on making sure
that we're working very closely with the
the board at Ferguson's to deliver upon
the the tugboat proposal that they've
put to us and also to get on and deliver
the four vessels that are required in
order to make sure that the yard can
properly evidence that it has a a viable
vibrant commercial future going forward
and I'm sure we can revisit the the
wider discussion uh in the future
>> steer
this is either gross minister ial
incompetence or a con by the SNP spin
machine because we knew all of this six
months ago. 6 months ago, just before
the election, it was made to sound as if
the orders were in the bag. The yard
future was secure. As has been
referenced earlier, it was a watershed
moment. Not one contract's been awarded,
as many of us said would be the case. No
submission to the CMA, no work for the
yard in 2027, and now redundancies have
been announced. So what exactly has the
SNP government been doing for the last 6
months apart from conning the good
people of Inenver Clyde?
>> Cabinet Secretary, I
>> I'm not sure uh from Mr. K's uh Steven
Ker's uh remarks um as to whether he was
supportive of the of the proposals that
I've put on the table today in order to
ensure that the yard has work next year.
I think that was missing from his
comments. What was also missing
presiding officer was the reality that
we must comply with the UK's substate
control act and we also must comply with
the CMA. I don't know if Mr. care is
intimating that we should ignore those
aspects just as we should ignore the
good news that's been announced in
relation to tugboats. He seems very
angry on both those points, Mr. Speaker,
presiding officer, but I'm sure he'll
clarify in future.
>> Mr. Speaker, presiding officer, I'm
confused. Will there any?
It it is now clear that the government
had failed to carry out all the
appropriate legal checks before it told
this parliament before the election that
would make a direct award to the
Ferguson yard. It failed to do so and
the consequences are being felt by the
the third of the workforce that have
lost their jobs at Ferguson's as a
result of this government's negligence.
So at what point
at what point because the minister must
have some clue about this. At what point
does he think a decision will be made by
this government cuz the workers deserve
not to wait another minute.
>> Secretary officer I I I contend
furiously the point that Mr. Rene has
made because he knows as an esteemed
member of this parliament and a
parliamentarian of very many years that
when it comes to direct awards we must
comply with the subsidy control act and
the provisions set out by the CMA. If he
is suggesting that he was unaware of our
duties in that respect then that is on
him that is not on us.
>> Okay we've had a member from each party
ask a question and we're 12 minutes in.
Uh a lot of members are just not going
to be able to ask questions unless we
get short on sharp questions and
responses. Thank you. Call Alan Brown.
Uh thank you Mr. Officer. Obviously we
hope um we hope everybody here does want
to see a sustainable future for Ferguson
Marine. Back to 14.2 million pounds of
capital investment.
Will that money be able to be invested
and have the yard modernized while we
await the CMA recommendations and get
that in place before hopefully the four
direct awards are made to Ferguson
Marine
>> cab secretary
>> Colin Brown for for his question and his
and his interest in this very important
topic as I sought to outline earlier and
as has been outlined on very many
occasions by my predecessors is
important that those two things happen
in tandem because the productivity
benefits that will be gained from the
14.2 million pounds of investment are
directly linked to the delivery of the
four vessels.
>> David Smith.
>> Thank you, Presiding Officer. Now, most
of the workers at Ferguson Marine are on
temporary contracts. Can I ask the
minister if reducing the number of
full-time employees and replacing them
with temporary contractors is a clear
statement from Ferguson Marine that they
do not have confidence that this
government will award the contract?
>> Cabinet Secretary Chief
I I'm I'm afraid that when it comes to
the the issue of of individual contracts
that that's a that's a matter for the
the board that Ferguson Marina and I'm
sure the member will take that up
directly with him to get the the clarity
that he surprisingly needs. The
important point I would like to make so
maybe I didn't make in relation to to
Mr. Bibby's question to me which was
perhaps unfair earlier on because I had
an officer was the fact that when it
comes to the voluntary redundancy that's
been put on the table. This has been
done in a position we didn't want to be
in this position. We want to see this
yard successful. And it's because we
want to see this yard successful that
I'm making the announcements today in
respect of moving forward with the
tugboats, moving forward with the direct
award and safeguarding the jobs of the
people of Inverly is paramount to the
future success of this company.
>> Jamie Mento.
>> Thank you, presiding officer. I thank
the cabinet secretary for his statement
and absolutely agree with his point that
the delivery of vessels is is as
important to our island and coastal
communities as ensuring we secure a
sustainable future for Ferguson Marine.
Can the cabinet secretary please advise
whether in order to support that
pipeline of work he mentioned? Might the
government consider further direct
awards given the points around uh the
subsidy control act for example for my
constituency like the Denoon and Guruk
route and the Campbell Town route.
Cabinet Secretary,
>> I I thank Jenny Men for her question and
for raising a very important point as to
what happens next. And I I can advise
her and the chamber that we will
continue to monitor where we can make
direct interventions to support the
yard, but also incredibly importantly to
make sure that the communities that she
represents and indeed others in this
chamber represent have the fairies, the
reliable fairies that they need in order
to get around on their daily lives.
That's important to me. It's important
to this government and we'll continue to
work to that end.
>> Katy Clark,
>> in announcing the Scottish government's
plan for direct awards in March, the
then deputy first minister Kate Forbes
said that a lot of the work on scoping
out and legal advice had already been
done, but an application needed to be
made to the competitions and markets
authority. Was that correct? Because the
cabinet secretary today seems to be
going backwards. We were told there
would be a pipeline of work. Will the
cabinet secretary commit to fighting for
these contracts to be awarded and that
the promise made in March will be kept?
>> Cabinet secretary.
>> Presiding officer, I I appreciate the
members might have pre-prepared
questions, but I cannot keep reiterating
the same point when it comes to the
substate control act and the CMA. This
is a complex legal process that we are
working through. I I cannot be any more
clearer with parliament than I am being
in respect of that. But what members
seem to be ignoring in the opposition
benches presiding officer is the fact
that we are seeking to provide certainty
for the yards during the gap between the
Glen Rosa um be between the delivery of
the Glen Rosa and the award of these new
contacts by making sure that we have a
commercial alternative in place with
tugboats that is to be welcomed but
there's a shortage of welcoming coming
from the opposition members. Jack
Middleton.
>> Can the cabinet secretary tell me more
about the expected timeline of delivery
for upcoming vessels and the benefits of
this pipeline of work?
>> Cabinet Secretary,
>> I thank Jack Middleton for his question.
And I think it's important once again to
reiterate this government's commitment
to delivering these four vessels, which
is why we are putting the effort in to
making sure that we can comply through
the subsidy control act with the
provisions that are going to be put upon
us potentially by the CMA. We need this
to be as robust as it possibly can, but
it's not enough in and of itself, which
is why I am very pleased to have been
able to come to the chamber today to
outline our intentions and respective
tugboats. Christopher Leisk. Thank you,
siding officer. Ferguson Marine must
remain competitive, and I welcome the
cabinet secretary's commitment to that
principle, but it must also be able to
tender for contracts at a bare minimum.
Longer term, its lack of activity and
track record of build history will only
hamper the yard's ability to tender for
work, and we saw that directly with the
ineligibility to tender for the Lord of
the procured by Semouth. Does the
cabinet secretary acknowledge this
liability to Ferguson Marine? And how
will it overcome this barrier to ensure
it is competitive beyond government
contracts?
>> Cabinet Secretary,
>> I think the government contracts give
Ferguson Marine the opportunity and the
ability to say to the wider commercial
market that this is what we can do and
this is what we can deliver. And when
they do that and they deliver that, then
they'll hopefully secure those
commercial orders that are going to be
absolutely essential to its vibrant
future going forward. And I believe that
the tugboat's proposal can play a key
part in that process, too.
>> Dawn Black.
>> Thank you, presiding officer. Uh, can
the cabinet secretary provide further
information on the Scottish government's
latest conversations with the Ferguson
Marines workforce and the trade unions
in light of the outlined investment in
the shipyard's future? and also how he
can how the Scottish government is
taking um steps to ensure good planning,
cost control and delivery on site.
>> Cabinet Secretary.
>> Yes. Can I thank Don Black for her
question and the very important point
she raises because it is vital that we
have continued positive discussions with
the workforce and indeed the trade
unions. I met with the trade unions on
the 8th of July when I was three in
Glasgow and the first minister had the
opportunity to speak both with unions
and with the workforce on the 24th of
August. It's my intention to get to the
yard in the very near future to meet
with both and I'm sure that they'll
welcome the announcements that I've been
able to make in Parliament here today.
>> Paul Sweeney,
>> thank you for presiding officer. Does
the minister accept that the fundamental
issue is we don't have competitive ship
building finance in Scotland and that
hampers any shipyard in Scotland from
winning commercial work? Does he also
agree that we should be exploring
section 45 of the subsidy control act on
the national security provisions? Will
they write to defense ministers on that
issue? And has the peame paneline been
ordered yet? because that is a critical
piece of machinery with a long lead time
for installation.
>> Cabinet Secretary,
>> I can assure Mr. Sweeney that my
officials remain in constant dialogue
with the the UK government in respect of
a whole host of matters of which the
subsidy control act will most certainly
be one. And if there's an opportunity
for me to explore a discussion with the
UK's defense secretary at a certain
point in the future, I'm more than happy
to to take uh the defense secretary up
in relation to that particular order.
With relation to to finance, I'm
assuming this relates to the questions
that Mr. Sweeney has posed to me um in
written form in respect of the regimes
that exist elsewhere, particularly in
Spain and the ability for them to uh
procure contracts through the Canary
Islands. I would gently say to to Mr.
Sweeney, I have looked at this matter in
a great deal of detail and I'm not sure
that the decision or the ability for the
Canary Islands to operate at a
significantly reduced tax rate is one
that his colleagues in Westminster would
welcome us seeking to pursue.
>> And Malcolm offered
>> presiding officer, this is the only
shareholder statement I've ever read
with zero financial information
included.
>> Yeah.
>> Can the cabinet secretary please explain
why?
Cabinet Secretary,
>> I'm sure I'm sure Lord Offford will get
the opportunity during the budget
process to look at the numbers that the
government operates under.
>> Thank you. That concludes the
ministerial statement on Ferguson Marine
planned investment and future business.
We now move to decision time and there
are four questions to be put as result
of today's business. The first question
is amendment 12000.3 in the name of
Helen McDeade which seeks to amend
motion 120 in the name of Angel Constson
on addressing the harms of health mis
information be agreed. Are we all
agreed?
>> We are not agreed. Therefore, we'll move
to a vote. It'll be a short suspension
to all members to access the digital
voting system.