Michio Kaku: AI Will Help Us Discover Genetic Immortality | AI Podcast Clips
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Michio Kaku posits that artificial intelligence will serve as the catalyst for achieving genetic immortality, a feat previously sought in vain by historical figures like emperors and queens who chased the mythical Fountain of Youth. He argues that within coming decades, humanity will possess billions of genome sequences from both young and old individuals, which AI systems with advanced pattern recognition capabilities can analyze to identify specific "aged genes." By locating these genetic markers associated with aging, technology could effectively reverse the biological clock, offering a solution that transcends mere digital preservation of human essence. The core mechanism behind this potential immortality lies in understanding the fundamental nature of aging itself, which Kaku defines as the accumulation of errors within our genome and cellular activity. These accumulated mistakes cause cells to become sluggish or enter senescence before eventually dying; therefore, death is essentially a result of genetic degradation rather than an inevitable fate. To combat this, future technologies like CRISPR will be utilized to repair these specific genetic faults. Kaku draws a direct parallel between mechanical aging in cars and biological aging in humans: just as the engine contains moving parts where combustion occurs leading to wear and tear, the mitochondria within cells are the site of metabolic activity that eventually succumbs to error accumulation. Fixing mitochondrial mistakes could theoretically render human beings immortal. However, Kaku introduces a crucial philosophical distinction regarding what constitutes true immortality by referencing the Greek myth of Aurora (Eos) and her lover Tithonus. In this story, Aurora successfully petitioned Zeus for eternal life but neglected to request eternal youth, resulting in Tithonus aging into decrepitude while remaining unable to die. Kaku uses this narrative to illustrate that quality of life is paramount; immortality without the vitality associated with youth would be a curse rather than a blessing. He suggests that any future breakthrough must ensure that individuals retain their physical health and vigor alongside extended lifespans, preventing the tragic fate depicted in mythology where one suffers eternal decay. Ultimately, Kaku expresses his personal belief regarding how humanity might approach this ultimate goal: by allowing descendants to reach an age of thirty before halting the aging process entirely. At thirty years old, individuals would possess a blend of wisdom and maturity derived from decades of life experience while maintaining a healthy body capable of living forever in that prime state. This vision suggests a future where humans could enjoy the benefits of full adulthood for several centuries without succumbing to physical decline or death, effectively solving the problem of aging by freezing biological time at its most optimal point rather than attempting to reverse it from old age.
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do you think one day technology will
allow individual human beings to become
immortal besides just through the
ability to digitize our essence yeah I
think that artificial intelligence will
give us the key to to genetic
immortality you see in the coming
decades everyone's going to have their
gene sequence we'll have billions of
genomes of old people
billions of genomes of young people and
what are we going to do with it we're
gonna run into an AI machine which has a
pattern recognition to look for the Aged
genes in other words the Fountain of
Youth that Emperor's kings and queens
lusted a ver over the Fountain of Youth
will be found by artificial intelligence
artificial intelligence will identify
where these aged genes are located first
of all what is aging we now know what
aging is aging is the build up of errors
that's all aging is the build up of
genetic errors this means that cells
eventually become slower sluggish
if they go into senescence and they die
in fact that's why we die we die because
of the build up of mistakes in our
genome in our cellular activity but
you've seen the future we'll be able to
fix those genes with CRISPR type
technologies and perhaps even live
forever so let me ask you a question
we're just aging take place in a car
given a car
where does aging take place well it's
obvious the engine right a that's where
you have a lot of moving parts B that's
where you have combustion well where in
the cell do we have combustion the
mitochondria we know know where ageing
takes place and if we cure many of the
mistakes that build up in the
mitochondria of the cell we could become
immortal let me ask you if you yourself
could become immortal would you damn
straight
now I think about it for a while because
of course if the term it depends on how
you become immortal you know there's a
famous
myth of Tiffany's it turns out that
years ago the in the Greeks mythology
there was the saga of Tiffany's and
Aurora Aurora was the goddess of the
dawn and she fell in love with a mortal
a human called
Athena's and so Aurora begged big Zeus
to grant her the the gift of immortality
to give to her lover so Zeus took pity
on Aurora and made Tiffany's immortal
but you see Aurora made a mistake a huge
mistake
she asked for immortality but she forgot
to ask for eternal youth
so port Athena's got older and older and
older every year decrepit a bag of bones
but he could never die never done
quality of life is important so I think
immortality is a great idea as long as
you also have a mortal youth as well now
I personally believe and I cannot prove
this I personally believe that our
grandkids may have the option of
reaching the age of 30 and then stopping
they may like being age 30 is you have
wisdom do you have all the benefits of
age and maturity and you still live
forever with a healthy body our
descendants may like being 30 for
several centuries
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