Merimela Hit Song Has been relevant to date,i still receive testimonials about changed lives from it

Well, all right. Good morning. As promised you, I'm I'm back and I'm going to have a lovely conversation here. I've told you I'm going to host one of their favorite artists. I think everybody in Kenya, let's say everybody in Kenya knows him. It's go it go go goes by the name Ankaya. So you're just wondering who is this Ankai? If you ever heard about Mary Kipenzi Rafika Karibu the banger song. So we're going to to to to have an lovely conversation with the artist behind him. Of course we're going to talk about combating HIV and AIDS through arts. So just want to get to know the story behind this song. Mela is it a fictional story or is something based on real life uh experience or rather than and how he's using music as an art even as a medium to spread uh the campaign against campaign even awareness about HIV and AIDS. So just want to welcome in the building Uncle Konaya very well-dressed. You're amazing. Just want to even before we start the conversation really just give us a little bit of the Whispers. [laughter] Amazing. I really wanted to put the cuz I know I know even the the rhythm and also the melody the behind the song. It's a lovely song. Welcome in the building. >> Yes. Thank you so much, James. >> I'm glad to have you here, man. And I'm going to enjoy this conversation as well because I've been uh I've been one of you've been one of my favorite artists ever since I was a young person. Listen to me. I think I know the lyrics even when you're singing it. I just wanted to join in there. >> Really? Yeah. Yeah. But tell me behind the artist Anka even behind the name artist Anka people don't know know the other part the other side of you as a counselor. So are we going to start with the artist or we going to start with the counselor part? Um let me just uh start by the brief history about myself and the song. >> Mhm. >> Is by name some Jonaya >> official names Jonay [clears throat] Oo >> uh artistically or stage name is Uncle Kaya. >> Mhm. >> Uncle Konaya. Kaya is just the short form of Jonaya. >> Mhm. >> Then uncle was just an identity I used >> Mhm. [clears throat] M uh as the background as my professional background of counseling. >> Mhm. >> As you know we have aunties and uncle. So >> it was my identity as a counselor >> because professionally I am a psychology counselor. >> Mhm. >> I'm also a behavior change communicator. >> Mhm. >> So before I did this song Mary >> Mhm. I used to work as a counselor >> and especially in specialization in HIV and AIDS. >> Mhm. >> So during that period >> Mhm. >> I saw the need because talent >> Mhm. >> is in me. >> Yeah. >> It is inborn. >> Mhm. >> And it was before everything. >> Mhm. >> So in counseling I used to have most of the session with the youth everybody. Mhm. [clears throat] >> in regards to HIV and AIDS. >> Mhm. >> And during that period >> Mhm. >> being um talented in music >> Mhm. >> I made a decision because I saw there was a need >> Mhm. >> to develop a communication material. >> Mhm. to actually help the society >> in the war against the spread of HIV and AIDS. Maybe educate on issues to do with the theories >> and uh even prevention. >> Mhm. >> So that's where the dream >> of doing the song Mela came in because during that period HIV prevalence was in the peak. >> Yeah. and uh the awareness awareness knowledge awareness level was also very low. >> Mhm. >> So I said to myself okay I am having time maybe seeing 10 or 12 clients >> Mhm. >> in a day. >> Mhm. >> But there is something I can do >> Mhm. >> much better that can help >> Mhm. reach [snorts] so many people at a time. >> So that's why I decided to use music and specifically to use Mary Mela. >> Mhm. >> Um because uh sometimes it was affecting me so much >> coming across very young promising uh youths. Uh >> some turning HIV positive. >> Mhm. some maybe losing hope in life because >> at early age you are see being that stigma level was also very high. >> Mhm. >> They were seeing no future. >> Yeah. >> But as a counselor I decided to do something that could prevent >> Mhm. >> Uh could also give hope >> to the individuals who have already been infected. >> Mhm. and also to promote a >> yes. >> Okay. Amazing. Now talking about Mara before even you came to release the song do you think do you did you know maybe it will become one of the biggest eight songs in >> Ken? Uh obviously yes because uh just say I've explained >> Mhm. >> I wanted to do something that could reach the mass meaning that my expectation >> was so big. >> Mhm. >> Yes. >> Okay. Amazing. Now talking about some of the of the controversies behind the song you know uh releasing the song then people saying you have copied the song from another person how did you deal with all that and make sure that uh this your own creativity this your own authenticity this song is your branded as cocon um when I did this song >> I was working in home county [clears throat] >> and uh they wasab county >> mhm >> as a HIV and age program coordinator. >> So I did it while still working there. >> Mhm. >> So I came to do the recording in Nairobi. >> Mhm. >> Did the audio went back to Omi to do my normal >> job. >> Mhm. >> So after doing it >> Mhm. >> Um the song became so big >> Mhm. >> to the extent that the demand was so high. Mhm. >> And uh some people >> Mhm. >> and especially the DJs saw the opportunity >> Mhm. >> to do a video that could help >> uh spread this song. >> Mhm. >> Because uh people are transiting from the cassett to >> the >> now the CDs. >> CDs. Yeah. So a DJ or some DJ sat and >> decided to corrupt it >> by bringing in a video >> of another artist whom I can mention >> Mhm. >> Sudi boy >> of the song Banati. >> Mhm. >> So they combined the Banati video >> with the Mela audio. >> Mhm. And if you can remember that video there was a disclaimer that it was to be continued because the Bati song was around 5 minutes >> but Mela song was more than 8 minutes. >> So when the video reached 5 minutes >> they wrote there >> to be continued. >> So um in one way or another I can say >> it helped me. >> Mhm. because maybe I didn't have that capacity >> to distribute that song to the level that >> the demand >> Mhm. >> of it was. >> Mhm. >> So that video pushed it >> Mhm. >> very fast >> and very wide. >> But it was a misuse of copyright. >> Yeah. Because it was the Sudi boys. It was a breach of copyright for Ban for Sudi boy for his song Banati and my audio Mary. >> Mhm. >> Yes. >> Wow. Amazing. Well, the story but let's say by the end of the day we got the song and we got the message behind it. Now compared to what you did 10 years ago, of course with the the likes of CDs, now we have the social media platforms like Tik Tok, we have Instagram. Now compared to our message of course sending the message then people hearing about the song getting the message knowing about the fictional character Mela going to do the the stuff then getting heal at the end of the day but now compared to 10 years ago how is the how is the how is the industry right now and also how is the message do you really get your message out there >> actually I can say the song has been still doing well to date >> and Uh I can say it is among the songs that have uh qualified >> to to pass a positive message >> for generations. >> True. >> And I think there is no any other song that are managed for the entertainment part. >> Actually it's it it may not be about entertainment but the commercial aspect. >> Yeah. Mhm. >> Because if you see the content we are consuming today >> it's not really educative. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. [laughter] >> Yeah. >> Maybe for the young people now how is the now perverance of the some of these songs do you believe maybe they take they just love just having the rhythm just to listen for the sake of just listening really rather than really getting the message behind the songs. Uh trust me. >> Mhm. >> Among so many things that youths do today, >> listening to music >> takes the higher percentage. >> Mhm. >> So um I can say >> Mhm. >> that uh youths today are more into entertainment. >> Mhm. or the content creators are more into entertaining than educating. >> But uh educating and promoting or promotion uh may be positive >> or negative. >> Mhm. >> Like today you walk into many of these matus >> or entertainment joints. >> Mhm. Trust me, 70% or more than 70% >> content in those places >> they either promote drugs >> they either promote sex >> or they promote violence >> or rebellion. >> Mhm. >> Three things. >> Mhm. and uh because they are the things many of our youths consume today. >> Mhm. >> What are the impacts? >> Mhm. >> Because the three things that I've mentioned >> are negative and they must also bring negative impacts in the life of our youths. >> Mhm. And what are some of the evidences to prove that some of the contents these youths consume affects them negatively? >> One, don't we have the rising cases of rising cases of new infection among the youths? >> Mhm. >> Is it not happening today? >> Mhm. >> It [clears throat] is happening. >> Why? Because of the most of the things they consume. >> Mhm. >> Drug abuse. >> Mhm. comes in handy. >> Mhm. >> With the new infections because >> control. >> Mhm. >> Then when we talk about the violence rebellion >> Mhm. >> Don't we have rising cases of gender based violence? >> Yeah, we do. And don't we is do we do we have the connection between gender based violence, new HIV infections and high rising cases of teen pregnancies. >> Mhm. >> So you can see the impact >> Mhm. >> of what many of our youths consume >> today. M >> don't we have um uncontrolled youths within the society? >> Mhm. [clears throat] >> Mhm. >> The messages we are getting are about being rebellious are about drunkardness >> about sex. Mhm. Now where does now now arts come in to collide with some of these topics even some of these topics that need really a deeper discussion. Where does arts now come in? >> Um just as I mentioned >> arts music included >> can be used positively or negatively. >> Mhm. >> But the so the society is not for the negativity. >> Mhm. >> We are for the positivity. >> Mhm. What if we could be working hard >> to create clean content >> that promote positive things. [clears throat] >> Mhm. >> Uh >> Mhm. >> Mary Mel is one of them. >> Mhm. >> Is one of the contents I did so many years ago. >> Mhm. >> It has lived for so long. >> It's still relevant. >> Still a generational song. >> Yes. Mhm. >> So if artist many artists can can come come up >> and do the same I think many of these problems or challenges facing the society today >> can be highly reduced and we can have a safe society. >> Mhm. Now talking about mela you know uh right now how do you maybe balance between uh telling the story let's say making it more of a story rather than rather than something more more serious in a way that it has the melody it has the tune but still has the message a deeper message behind it and people have been asking about the Mela is it is she a real person or is she a fictional person so but I just want to get to know how do you even balance between now when you're writing down your lyrics and listen to the how do you come up with the with the the melody in a way that you're passing the message but the same way but same way you're entertaining us not really not really people when they hear about the song not really saying that okay this is a serious song I'm not going to listen to it because you know the youth of of this generation when something is more serious they're not really going to pay attention to it but if something is some something that can relate to them something that is catchy something that is has the melody into it they they they'll go and listen to it um they say knowledge is power. >> So I think uh content creation also needs a bit of knowledge and research. >> So if we do good research >> we come up with content that generation can relate to. >> Mhm. >> It can last long and it can do well. >> Mhm. >> Yes. >> Mhm. Now talking about also some of the things that [music] you passed the message about Mary Miller he talked about combating HIV that just I just want to know to get to know even now compared to what now in reality in the real life maybe someone stopped you in the road and said okay you I I usually listen to your song it really helped me in some situation I was going through this I was going through I was about to to engage in some of these behaviors but after listening to the story after connecting with it I It really helped me. >> Yeah. That is one of the things that keep me keep me strong. >> Mhm. >> And keeps my dream alive. >> Mhm. >> Because of the testimonies >> I usually get. >> Mhm. >> I've made so many confessions >> from the beneficiaries of this song. >> Mhm. I've heard stories of people telling me, you know, uh the first time I heard about this song, >> I was in a mat. >> Mhm. >> Heading to a clinic >> to a boat. >> Mhm. >> But when I listen to this song >> Mhm. >> the way it was bringing the message on abortion. >> Mhm. >> I made a decision decision not to >> Mhm. >> uh flash. >> Mhm. >> Today I have my twins. Wow. >> In fact, among the confessions I have >> Mhm. >> 10 years, twins, 8 years, those who made a decision not to abort because of the song. >> Mhm. >> Those who had already lost hope. >> Mhm. >> Because of the infection, but the song gave them hope that >> Mhm. uh there are people confesses to me >> that the song helped them to there and take treatment >> ser seriously. I I also even have the confession of the parents. >> Mhm. >> Who comes and tells me you know this song helped my daughter, this song helped my son. >> Uh some tells me you know this song before I slept my dad used to play it for me. So this song helped me a lot. So such like positive stories >> motivates a lot >> and [clears throat] gives us hope. >> Mhm. >> Yes. >> Now what do you believe maybe can be done now? Because we are talking about 8 years ago or down the line. What do you believe can be done right now so that we can even get this message out there even more vigorous than what what happened back in the 8 years ago? Um, one thing that I think should be done >> is the regulation >> of some of these content. >> Mhm. >> That are produced. >> Some are very unhealthy. >> Mhm. >> But because we don't have serious bodies >> uh maybe regulating or censoring some of this >> we see they're becoming out of control. >> Yeah. and they normalize >> immoral behaviors >> to the extent that even parents themselves can't control their children. >> Mhm. >> I think one we should have a body >> Mhm. >> that controls >> some of these content. >> Mhm. >> Like in Tanzania >> Mhm. There are some contents that can not be played in their mainstream media or social media. >> Mhm. >> Uh cannot be played anywhere. >> Mhm. >> Because they have bodies that regulate >> they can guide you, you know, like um this talent >> Mhm. >> there is no bad talent. >> Mhm. >> But they can be mentored. Mhm. >> The content creators can be mentored >> to use the talents they have >> positively to help the society >> because at times I listen to some of the contents you wonder >> Mhm. >> whether >> such a like content creator >> Mhm. have a vision of maybe having children one day or being a grandfather and maybe admiring listening to his contents or our contents >> when he's now old. >> Mhm. >> There are some contents you cannot listen to your parents >> but they try to normalize them. So >> so we need to have these things controlled >> or else >> mh >> uh we will not be in a position to do anything. >> Yeah. >> Yes. But do you believe maybe this generation maybe the reception will it be the same because I'm getting the message here you're trying to say we have normalized this type of song at least explicit song that of course get no get really the the morally upright message out there really rather than the opposite of what you did but do you think will be still the same compared to what we had eight years ago? >> It may not be the same because um things are changing. Mhm. >> Like the digital transformation >> Mhm. >> has made things become so complicated. >> Mhm. >> Uh you know like you may control the mainstream media. You maybe control what KBC or Y254 can give to the public >> but you may not control what is happening in the sites. >> Mhm. where some of these genses visit >> uh where they get some of this content. So >> things may not be the same >> but we can reduce >> Yeah. >> Yes. >> We can reduce >> if we can start by mentoring some of these content creators >> on how to develop messages that can benefit the society not only the society even themselves. For example, um if I say the song Mela I did more than 15 years ago. >> Mhm. >> But it still benefits me in terms of >> the name or the brand >> in terms of uh maybe the revenue >> Mhm. >> uh the royalties. >> Mhm. >> If it was just a song to pass, it could have not been helping me today. >> Yeah. But if you do good content, it can help you and even help >> your coming generations because there are good songs that we still consume but they are honors. >> Mhm. >> Uh passed on long time ago. >> Mhm. [clears throat] >> We had the lucky dub, we have the not there. >> Mhm. >> But the contents they did still lives and still help in shaping the society. >> Mhm. >> Yes. Now uh talking back now coming back to the the discussion topic about HIV of course stigma being one of the barriers of uh even treatment and even testing but what what can you say the heart as even your song has come to break this type of barriers? >> Yes. Uh I can say >> that um the war against HIV and AIDS >> has got gains and maybe uh losses. Mhm. >> We have encountered >> for one the stigma level currently is very low. >> Mhm. >> Uh maybe adurance uh is high. >> Mhm. >> But these things these gains also comes along with some challenges. >> Yeah. >> Like uh low level of stigma >> Mhm. has also come up with the another courage, another negative courage. >> Mhm. >> Where people do not care. >> Mhm. >> Because after all we have realized that somebody can live positively with the HIV. >> Mhm. >> We have also realized that HIV is no longer death sentence. So prevention level [clears throat] has also reduced. >> Yeah. >> And this why we are now encountering new cases >> of infection because >> Yeah. >> Because Yeah. >> Do you think maybe people are not treating it as more terrifying type of disease compared to what it happened back then >> what it used to be? >> Yeah. >> Yes. Uh-huh. >> In fact, even before we did Mime, I can remember some of the IC materials, communication materials. Some of them were so scary. >> But today you can find they are so appealing, >> they are too [clears throat] soft, >> you see. >> But uh the fact remains that is there something >> Yeah. >> coming up that we never expected. Mhm. >> Because we were expecting that right now we were fighting to move towards zero infections. >> Yeah. >> But what were we witnessing today? >> Mhm. >> We are witnessing cases of new infections especially among the >> the young people, >> the youths. >> Mhm. >> This means that there is a lapse >> Mhm. in some areas >> that needs to be uh we need to fill those gaps. >> Yeah. >> Or else >> we may not achieve what we expected to achieve. >> Mhm. >> One we must control the informations >> Mhm. >> these youths are consuming. I know there are even challenges of maybe supply of >> prevention materials like when we had the case during Trump's >> uh administration you saw so many support programs >> were cancelled >> this one could have also contributed >> to the rising cases but >> another thing my point of view. >> Mhm. >> Like today, many of the genesis, the youth [snorts] generation we are talking about today, >> many of them are college students. >> Mhm. >> University students, >> maybe secondary. >> Mhm. >> One thing we must accept is that economy >> is very tough. >> Mhm. >> And some of these uh comrades >> Mhm. are undergoing a lot >> of pressure economically. >> Mhm. >> Because it becomes so hard for comrade to balance between what to eat, >> Mhm. >> data, >> maybe paying phone, >> paying rent and the rest. So you find the some of these challenges >> Mhm. >> putting them to more risk. >> Mhm. >> Like uh if you can have somewhere huh >> Mhm. to get what can sustain you because even the parents >> are undergoing a lot of economic pressure. >> Yeah. >> They cannot maybe support the lifestyle or the life of these genesis. >> Mhm. >> So you find most of them being too much vulnerable >> to the extent that they can do anything as long as it can sustain them, give them money, >> pay their rents or pay their phones or pay their data. >> Mhm. >> Yes. Now why have we have we maybe normalized this some of these type of behaviors because we have seen it on social media trending people just doing anything for money get into unnecessary even um bad behaviors just for for the for the little money that they're getting there. Like uh we said uh these youth need a lot of guidance >> and mentorship. >> Mhm. [clears throat] >> But we don't they don't have that opportunity. >> Mhm. uh they like even today programs that support youth >> they're not there >> or they are minimal >> but [clears throat] these youths need information >> whether at the church at church level >> school level [clears throat] college level >> or anywhere >> because they can also learn that >> you can manage living with a little >> you have >> hoping to get the best out of your perseverance. >> Yes. >> I think people just want to to get the easier way out and even get >> that soft life. >> Yeah. That soft life >> which you can't afford. >> Yes. >> But now what's your view maybe on the vaccine? Of course the vaccine and vaccine that was put in place maybe. I don't know if it's it's working in Kenya but I heard it is there. What's your view on it? >> Yeah, it's working. >> But um still >> Mhm. We must just remember that prevention is better than a cure. >> You may not sustain the vaccine >> or the the preps or peps. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, personal >> care >> matters a lot. >> Yes. >> Yeah. Of course, prevention be better than uh even getting it and then going for the vaccine or even prepping before even engaging some of these unnecessary behaviors. But what can you say? Just finish it up cuz I see the time is not really on site. Just finish it up. Maybe a person there maybe has doubts on whether he or she has the has the virus or maybe someone living with with the virus had not yet come publicly or told his family or family about it. How can you say maybe as a counselor or both as an artist? How can you give them the best advice? was the first thing the first step that they can take so that they can even have an easy way of living this type of disease. >> Yes. One to anybody who has not taken a step >> Mhm. >> to know his or her status, >> I can say the strongest [clears throat] >> weapon >> Mhm. >> or the most powerful thing >> Mhm. >> is knowing your status. Mhm. >> It will help you a lot >> because if you are HIV negative, >> you will know what to protect. >> Mhm. >> If you are HIV positive, you'll know how to live with it. >> And uh >> just as we said, >> HIV is no longer death sentence. >> Um and uh for you to live, >> you also need live with it >> positively. One of the things is having a good support network. >> Mhm. >> Yes. And that is where the family, the friends comes in. >> Mhm. >> Yes. Because by the time you are also not being open. >> Mhm. >> It simply means >> that you still have >> stigma. >> You have stigma within you. >> Yeah. And stigma kills. >> Mhm. Yes. >> Of course. Uh maybe what's the message as we finishing up? What's the message that you can give the young people out there? Maybe a young man or even a young lady listen to you. Even a parent listen to you. Maybe what the best advice you can give them so that we can even stop this type of uh let's say uh let's say familiarizing yourself with this sort of behaviors using music in the right way rather than listen to some songs that are really not really mentoring our our young children. Maybe what's the message that can give the people? >> Yes. Um let me just finish by saying information is power. >> Mhm. >> And uh information can be both negative and positive. >> Mhm. >> Uh let us be keen on the kind of information and sources of information that we get. >> Mhm. As parents, >> we also need to have a free time dialogue with our children >> because there is a lot they learn from us >> and um the content creators >> or the message developers. >> Mhm. >> Let us consider the society. >> Let us have hope >> for the future of this society. >> We are not here to live permanently. Mhm. >> One day, one time Kaya will no longer be there. >> Mhm. [clears throat] >> But uh sometimes we find it tricky >> Mhm. >> fighting between fame >> Mhm. >> money >> Mhm. >> and maybe money. >> Mhm. >> But let me say that uh it is just important >> Mhm. >> to struggle or work hard to remain relevant. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. Because remaining on top or fighting to be on top sometimes me I do say it is God's favor. >> He chooses whom to be on top and who to not to be on top. >> Yeah. >> So fighting to remain or fighting to be on top sometimes exposes us to so many things [clears throat] >> that are dangerous to us. You have he had maybe people getting into cult. Mhm. >> You may have seen cases where people are fighting physically or maybe killing one another >> to remain on top of but if you fight to remain relevant >> Mhm. >> that is the best thing >> because even if I'm not a star or a celebrity today >> but my work is still relevant. Somebody can call me today come and share with us >> tell us this. How do we go about this? >> Mhm. Do you see that? So let them just fight to remain relevant >> but not fighting to be on top or maybe >> Yes. >> Yeah. Wow. Amazing message cuz I think I believe you know it doesn't take a celebrity or even a famous person so that message can get there start with the individual just get tell people be aware of it first then spread the message which is amazing but maybe tell us about the me and that is the nation maybe how people can vote for you and where they can find you on social media as we finish. >> Yes. So Mimea >> has been a good song >> and in mema award it was identified >> nominated >> as the legendary song of the year >> in the legendary song category >> because of how long it has lived >> how relevant has been >> and how it has been positively received >> by the society. Mhm. >> So people are voting. >> Mhm. [clears throat] >> And uh we have various uh ways of voting. >> Mhm. >> And each vote just cost 100 shillings. >> Mhm. >> Yes. So if you believe and trust that Mary me is truly a legendary song. >> If you know the song, [laughter] it's worth being legendary. >> Yes. If it is really worth huh. >> Mhm. uh maybe being crowned as the [clears throat] legendary song. >> Kindly >> kindly I'm requesting >> you support it through your votes by >> Mhm. >> one you can vote through USSD >> Mhm. >> which is star >> Mhm. >> 657 >> star 13 >> Mhm. >> star >> Mhm. >> 1078 hash >> Mhm. star 657 star 13 star 1078 hash >> Mhm. >> Or you can visit me awards >> Mhm. >> um platform. >> Mhm. >> Just select the legendary song category. You'll find Mary and another song there. >> Mhm. >> Just vote for Kaya. >> Mhm. >> Or there is also another very short way. >> Mhm. You can use pay bill. Mema pay bill. >> Mhm. >> Member pay bill number is 40. >> Mhm. >> 46 609. >> Mhm. >> That is the pay bill. Then account is 1078. >> Mhm. >> Account is 1078. It will automatically go to Konaya Marela. >> Mhm. >> Or if you think those those ways are complicated for you, >> Mhm. You can send your money to our team. >> Mhm. >> They will use the money to vote. >> Mhm. >> And you can use this Empessa number >> Mhm. >> to send your money. >> Mhm. >> So that the team can use to vote. The Empessa number is 07 >> Mhm. >> 24 11 92 >> Mhm. >> 80. >> Mhm. 04 0724 11928 to make any inquiry >> about me >> we believe >> through your support >> uh I'm talking to a parent somewhere >> whom this song helped >> [laughter] >> I appreciate your artist. >> Yes, you are maybe a millennial who benefited from this song directly. >> This is the way this is the only way you can >> prove that really this song helped you. >> Mhm. >> Um you are a genie >> who feels this song is shaping your future. Mhm. >> Kindly >> you can support the song >> through the mods we have >> indicated. >> And I think we will celebrate together because if we come out uh victorious >> it will also communicate something >> even to the new generation of content creators that really >> if we do good we can be rewarded even after so many after so many years. Clean content pace. >> Mhm. Yes, that's why I love Dr. Ezekiel >> Ma. He has been very firm >> on create creation of clean content, cleanness in content creation. >> So if you do that, I will highly appreciate >> and uh if I win >> Mhm. >> I believe a better part of the prize >> Mhm. >> will go to charity programs. >> Yeah. >> Yes. Mhm. >> Because I know there are so many vulnerable >> members of the society >> that needs your support and my support. >> Mhm. >> Yes. >> Now maybe what they can where can they get you on social media if they want to engage with you? >> Yes. If you want to engage with me >> my social handles >> Mhm. >> apart from Facebook >> Mhm. >> are all Ankai. >> Just search for Ankokaya. YouTube >> Twitter um Instagram >> or Facebook. >> Mhm. >> Yes. >> Amazing. Thank you so much for coming. >> Thank you so much, James. >> I highly appreciate and I believe, God willing, next time >> we'll sit again. >> Yeah. >> And maybe review, >> of course, >> the impact of what we have shared today. Thank you so much. And I hope the the the the Marla song will be crowned. We finally get the crown of the legendary status. >> My prayer, your prayer, >> everyone's prayer. [laughter] >> Yes. >> Okay. My good name is James John. Our social media James John. We had a lovely conversation. We talking about combat HIV and AIDS through arts. And of course, I was joined here by Uncle Kaya, the artist behind the song. If you missed this segment, make sure you rush to YouTube. We'll be upload this this section there. Then you can watch, maybe review, even comment and tell us your thoughts about it. But right now, I just close it. And closing it, I mean, give us a little test of Mela back again so that we can close this segment. >> [laughter] >> Thank you so much. Amazing. Amazing. Thank you so much for coming. >> Thank you so much. Okay, for now we are just going closing then I'll be coming up with sport. So make sure you stay tuned. # is still by in the morning at white for channel. [music] >> [music]