Member Q & A via Zoom (Aug 2026) 2 of 2

[music] >> Welcome to another WikiTree member Q&A via Zoom session. My name is Betsy Cow. We started the series back in 2022 to give WikiTreers a chance to ask their questions in real time. Screen sharing on Zoom allows us to look at and edit profiles while we chat. No topic is off limits and we always want to remind folks that no question is too basic. Now, let's get to it. >> Right. Welcome everybody to this our second um uh of these uh bi-monthly um members Q&As. Um and the first thing I'd like to ask is um has anybody got any questions? If you don't want to um actually be on screen to ask your questions, you're quite quite welcome to put them in the chat there. Um and um I shall introduce myself and and let other people in the my co-hosts introduce themselves. My name is Hilary Gatsby. I am I pro project coordinator for both the England and the Wales um WikiTree projects. And I have been on WikiTree since 2011. I uploaded um quite a large uh GEDCOM once when I joined WikiTree and I'm probably still in the process of getting a lot of that done. Um um you can't upload so much nowadays. Um you need you now have to do a lot more um comparing and making sure that these profiles aren't already on WikiTree. But when I joined, there weren't a lot of English profiles on WikiTree, so um I think pretty much most of the ones I've added are probably going to be the first ones for that for that particular family. Um I will now hand over to Murray and let him introduce himself. >> Hi everyone. I'm Murray. And uh I um I spend a lot of my time writing documentation for Ian B Cole's uh web browser extension. And uh I spend the rest of my time poking around um trying to make the tree bigger and brighter. And um and I spend 2 days a month uh well, two two hours maybe or four hours a month doing this, which is sitting and chatting with y'all and uh trying to help you figure out how to use this uh contraption we call WikiTree because it's really really hard to learn how to use cuz there's so many moving parts. And that's why it takes so many of us to help you figure out what the heck you're doing. And and with that, I'll turn it over to um to my colleague in arms, Stephen, who always has useful information about how to code things in WikiTree to make them look right and to make them do the right thing. Stephen? >> Hello. Thanks, Murray. Hi everybody, I'm Stephen Greenwood and I've been here since 2020 and uh yeah, just anything that really I come across at this point, uh I'm finding a lot of profiles that just need some good clean up, need some good narrative. Uh I apologize my voice is cracking cuz I'm I guess I'm not doing too well today um vocally, but I'll do my best to you know, be legible to hear on this call. Um >> [clears throat] >> but uh and you know, any kind of improvement to the tree is it improvement. You know, any kind of connection, any kind of direction that can be identified. Uh I'm still finding a bunch of profiles that state the parents, but they don't actually have the parents, or you know, the information might be connected, there's no information about it in the narrative. So, you know, if there any of those little things can be done rather than just simply connecting it, you know, and and simply you know, identifying information that can point people in the right direction. And like uh little breadcrumbs, you know, they those can add on to the story of the person. Again, uh trying to make these profiles less of data points and and more of stories because they were real people. Um that seems to be where my focus is right now. Um especially, you know, with with certain people that I probably even knew, or people that you know, a little of them are notable. Uh it really just depends cuz I float from, you know, place to place. Um but, you know, again, with your family, uh if you guys have situations where you're uncertain about, you know, how to approach it, or how to go forward with formatting, you know, those are questions that we can certainly field, and we can uh look at those profiles as examples, you know, and go from there. So, with that, um I suppose I'll hand that over to Denise. I don't don't believe who has talked yet. >> Yes. Hello. Good morning, every well, hello, everyone. Good morning, afternoon, evening, but whatever the case may be. Um uh I am a member of WikiTree US Black Heritage Project. I'm a co-project leader for that group. Um I'm also a co-host not only for this, but for the Saturday Roundup. And I usually attend the Genealogy Collaboration Hour every Saturday at 5:00 p.m. Eastern. Um so, there's a lot of opportunities for you to come and ask questions if you have any uh about using WikiTree, or whatever you're doing on WikiTree. We've We've got a lot of opportunities, so don't be afraid to ask. Um I've been a member of WikiTree since 2020. I started right at the height of the pandemic, so I had a lot of time on my hands since I didn't have to drive to and from work. And um I've been adding family members all that time. And of course, I've also been assisting with other clean-up efforts and participating on other activities. So, we're more than happy to help you with any questions that you may have. With that, who wants to ask their first question? No questions? Well, you know, this week was cemetery week. And um we had as a guest on Saturday Roundup, um Azure Robinson, who also does a lot of work behind the branches on WikiTree. She does a lot of different things and is very knowledgeable. Uh this week, there was also a kick-off of the um Azure and Aowyn Ask Anything to ask them anything. So, that was another opportunity where people could join them and ask questions and learn more about the functionality within WikiTree. Um Some of the things that I learned this week, um there's some tree apps that I was not familiar with um in in WikiTree. So, I I learned a lot about some of those cuz I used to just use the fan chart. And now I see there's other tree apps that are available out there. We looked at Ancestor Cemeteries. We looked at the uh Yeah, I saw that look, Ruth. Yes, we did. [laughter] That's one of those tree apps. It'll show you a lot of different cemeteries for your ancestors and break that down for you. >> [snorts] >> And then, of course, there's um a map that you can view if you go to the cemeteries page project page, there's a link to view all the cemetery maps and I >> WikiTree cemetery maps. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, something. >> mapping by Steve Harris. This is the the app, correct? >> That's correct. This is something that was developed by Steve Harris. And if you expand on that, you know, start zooming in, the the more you zoom in, you'll see in those green dots, there's numbers that indicate how many cemeteries have been found in that particular location or have been documented, I should say, in that particular location. And then, as you keep zooming in closer and closer, you get an idea of how much effort there's been going on in an area that you're interested in. >> Now, I'm interested in here. >> Yeah. >> Is that uh Normandy? >> And this one in particular. >> There's Normandy. >> Because there's 13 documented. This is my one-place study. >> [laughter] >> Wait. Oh. >> This is the This is the village that I live in. I've probably added most of these um on here. Yeah. I took some photographs. I took photographs of the headstones. Um and there we go. We got her her um >> [clears throat] >> her headstone, which is actually laying down, probably because it perhaps was um wasn't safe or something or they may have a lot of them are are on the floor a lot of them are laid down. Um uh some of them some they're not all upright. We've got a lot of slate um ones because we've got um slate mines near us. This is This is um this looks like it could be a slate one. Um yeah. Uh um and a lot of them are written in Welsh as well. I don't know if any of the ones I've got on there are are Welsh. Let's have a quick look if I can see um what ones it might be. I think they're mostly the English ones. Uh this one I know. Let's have a look. One in particular I'm particularly interested in but oh, I think that was it. It's gone. Somebody else. There it was, wasn't it? There we go. So there we go. You see this sort of um headstone is quite popular cuz it's a it's a slate one. Um and this family still got people living people in the village. So uh um there's descendants of of these I think that still living in the village. So uh but um Okay. That's first, isn't it? Yeah. I'm gradually trying to um um work on improving the profiles of some of these. It's uh we've got to have a lot of people that um that moved into the area from outside uh from from places in England because of what the industry that they had here. Had a big boat building industry. So yeah. >> Is Hillary a Welsh >> Yeah. >> Uh did you create a space page for the cemetery? >> Um I don't think I I'm not sure if I've got a space page for the cemetery. Um I will I'll probably have actually, come to think of it. Cuz I know we've got the category. >> Mhm. It would show up in the category if it existed. >> Mhm. >> Or at least that's where it's supposed to go. >> Mhm. I'm trying to think cuz somebody else set up set up the category, one of the um members of the um the Wales project that does a lot of categor- categorization set up the category for me. Um but I'm not sure if um I've actually got a space page cuz I was trying to I know I was trying to get a diagram of the of the actual um cemetery so I could work out put that put put it where they were all in. But it's a funny It's a funny shape where we've got two bits. We've got the bit round the church, and then there's an extension um across the road from that as well. Um I'm sure I've got something because I'm sure I've put a photograph up somewhere of it. So let me have a look. Um Let's see what can be that I can find. >> I have a couple of pages. I'm I'm just so far behind in uploading photos cuz I basically tried to document the entire cemetery in a couple of rounds. And uh you know, it's it's a lot, but uh then if I get them uploaded, I don't want to have them take up space on my computer. >> [laughter] >> Yeah. Yeah. Um this is the actual study itself with all the people. >> Right. This is the study of the >> round to. I I haven't got round to putting uh working out who everybody's headstones are or or even if some of them have got actually got headstones cuz some of them may have moved out of the village cuz a lot of this was done based on one of the I think the 1911 census. >> Is it a lot of John Jones? >> A lot of Evanses, Joneses, um >> They're all John Jones. >> Yeah, [laughter] yeah, yeah. Thomases and Williams and >> Any name Hugh Hughes? >> Those are few Yeah, yeah. He said you can tell it's Wales, can't you? >> [laughter] >> Okay, so these are typical Welsh names? >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They are. And there's a lot of quite a few Griffiths as well. And now some I I did come across somebody yesterday. I think it might have been this one because of that was um was actually a profile that I didn't actually um >> [clears throat] >> I didn't uh add this profile. Somebody else added it, but I've added it now. I added it to the One Place Study. Um they've got a headstone there, but I don't think it's the headstone for this particular person. Um that photograph doesn't that headstone doesn't look like you can't you can't focus in on it very well to actually be able to work out whose headstone it is, but I don't think it's the the I think they actually said they weren't sure what which was their headstone when I looked [clears throat] at the comments. >> Is there a Billion Graves or Find a Grave profile for that person? >> Um I don't think so. Let's have a Let's have a quick look. I've got WikiTree sourcer on here. Let's have a look. Can I look? Search Find a Grave. Who are they looking for now? >> And there's a question while you're looking for that. Um Kate C is asking by whom or why would a FSP be added for a cemetery? >> Okay, I was just about to type back to that. Uh so if you want to make a free space page for a cemetery, in addition to the category that already categorizes everyone alphabetically, in my case, I'm using this uh free space page to identify their actual locations within the cemetery by section and by row and by grave. So that if somebody was walking through the cemetery, they could identify the section on a map, they could go straight to that grave, and then they could see all the surrounding graves around it. Um you know, Find a Grave doesn't really do a good job of showing you the surrounding graves. It tells you where they're located if it's provided, but then that information isn't always visible, either. Um so I'm trying to add another step to knowledge for the cemetery as a whole, and if there's any history of the cemetery, you know, you want to provide the location of the cemetery. Um that that's stuff that you can enter before you you get to the people. So you can like do a little history section, and then you can do the layout. Um and then again, not every uh page has to be the same. It's totally how you want to approach it, uh but that's how I approach it. Does that help? >> Yeah. I found the I found the Find a Grave page. This is the Find a Grave page. Um I put up a uh copy Somebody's put up a copy of the baptism uh Oh, no, not the baptism, the burial there, I think. And the the inscription on that headstone is in is in Welsh. I have got a page somewhere which tells me what a lot of the commonly common things are. Um this John Jones lived at a place called There's a part of the village is called Graig Graig, and that's where they were living, by the looks of things. So um and um uh I think the husband died but in 1896 and she died in 1901. By looking looking at that. She [snorts] was 71 years of age and he was 69. So That's I think that's what that is. And they've got some a few other bits and pieces so I'll have to have a look because I might have a better photograph of that that headstone than what they've got because I actually went to the head to the went and actually took a lot of fairly close-up ones of of the headstones and things that might might actually uh be a better view. So I will go and see what I can find. Uh >> So and you've got other family members that need to have profiles created, too. >> Um all these ones got one and this one's got >> Yeah, but look at all the ones that don't have one. So yeah, those are the ones that profiles need to be created for them. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Um I noticed that some of these nicknames are these their Welsh names then? >> Um well, I'm trying to think that's definitely Welsh. That's definitely Welsh. Crossyard won't be but um that's a nickname. Yeah. That one's definitely a Welsh um >> Mhm. >> Um and that is as well. So >> So they had two names. They they had a a standard English name and then they had a Welsh name. >> Well, that might be a nickname. >> So the nicknames are Welsh? >> Yeah. That might be a name that they were known under. Because this one the WikiTree profile's not hasn't got much on it. >> No, it's all Jed gone built. >> Yeah, you know, it's just a first first information citation. Yeah. But remember by somebody who probably never knew them, you know. >> Right, born in 1829. Unless they're a time traveler, they probably weren't there first hand. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think um yeah. Now I'm trying to find out how to stop find it stop sharing thing. Oh, here we are. I'll stop sharing anyway. >> Well, thanks for sharing. We have new people. They entered in the stream. >> Yeah. They're about Yeah. It's it's Uh there are there is a lot more of it on the cemeteries than there was when I first started um deciding that I'd try and at least document the cemetery because if you live in a place, you might as well document the cemetery of the place where you live. Even if even if none of them are your relatives, you you've got good access to those. I mean, the the cemetery or part of the cemetery is literally at the end of the road from where I live, so it's not exactly a long way to walk. I've I've I've also photographed all the um the war men the war memorials. So, there is quite a few um people in the village that that um didn't come back from like World War I or then I think some of them might even be World War II. Um so, those memorials, so you know, they may or may not have had any descendants. Um quite a lot of the World War I um ones probably didn't even have any descendants. have descendants cuz a a lot of them were young men who'd never married, but um it is certainly it worth documenting those sort of things well so they don't get forgotten. >> Yeah. So, one of one of the things I mentioned earlier were the tree apps that we reviewed. Um and and so, on your jump bar, you know, you've got that little symbol that takes you right to the tree apps. Um this is one of those reports that I was not aware existed. The Annen Tafel, I could never pronounce that correctly. >> Ahnentafel. >> Ahnentafel. Yeah, the the ancestor list. But this actually produces it in a form where if I wanted to print it out, I could do that and share it with a family member. Typically, I use Family Tree Maker to generate heritage books or you know, list things or things like that, but this this makes it so much easier. I didn't realize that this was available in WikiTree and it's got your links and everything. So, it it's pretty cool. I can just I was just so excited to see this. And then we were talking about as I mentioned the ancestor cemeteries. That was something else that came up yesterday since we were talking about cemeteries all week, but this is obviously I have a lot of work still to do. There's there's folks that I do have documented in the cemetery, but this tells me I've got other work to do. Number one, I've got to find them because they're not in this cemetery. I don't know where they're interred, but I have to find them down there in Alabama somewhere all of these people. But I I just thought that was so cool. And then, you know, just so many different types of things that are available out here. You know, the the family group, family portraits. I don't have a lot of those either, I don't think, but but let's see what I've got here. Ah, I guess I do. I have some, but there's more that can be added. More portraits, more portraits. Pictures, pictures, we love pictures. So, this shows you what you have in your out there on WikiTree now for all of your pictures. I I know Murray has a lot. Um you know, one name trees, research that you're doing, and then one other thing that we um that we talked about yesterday. I knew these existed, I had just never used them, but we've got the clipboard. If you've never used that clipboard, that comes in handy. If you've got something that you want to um I I saw the examples where some people were putting in categories that they use on a regular basis and need to add to a profile, they'll put it here in the clipboard, and then when it's here and you're on that profile, all you have to do is click on it and you can add it to the profile. So, some people were maintaining this information on separate uh free space pages and just in different documents on their computers, but if you put it right here in this clipboard, again, it's there when you need it. You can click click on it and you can add it to a profile. So, that's how one of the examples of how somebody was using that. I thought that was really really cool. Um So, I I you know, I always say I learn something new every day, and yesterday I I learned a lot of stuff. Not not just one thing. So, um that's what I wanted to share. Mhm. >> Ruth has her hand up. Ruth, go ahead. >> Yes, I had a question for Denise. When you just showed all of those portraits of your family members. >> Yeah. >> Is there a way So, right now I'm going through several steps when I have a group photo and I just want to highlight one person for their profile. I can't seem to find the tool to I anyway, I I go to back to the original photo, I copy it, I clip out the one and then I put it in the profile, but I see yours are all individual faces, so is there a feature there that would allow me to zero in on just one person? >> Well, those are actually uploaded as individual photos like that. Yeah, I didn't take that from a group photo. >> Okay. Then I had one more question, so I guess there isn't a shortcut around that. >> Yes, there is. >> Okay. >> Yeah, I've done it on mine, but it's you have to go in the photo area and then um you there is a a way to just get the one face. I'll have Let me look at it. >> Okay, you're you're free to share if you'd like, Nancy. >> I need to look for it. You guys go ahead and talk and I'll look for it. >> Okay. >> My other question had to do with uh I'm just I'm still trying to wrap my head around I have all these plat maps, I have all of these class pictures where each individual photo is taken uh from my parents graduating class or anything else. Is that a purpose for a free space profile? page or or not? >> Sure. You know, >> Or what or I can I just put it on one person's page and reference it on cuz most of them are all related. I forgot to add that comment was this is a small town. A lot of these people in this photo are in my tree. >> Okay. >> So, do I create a free space? >> You can. Yes. >> But that's that's a very That's a very effective way That's a very effective way to handle the the data distribution, right? You're you're you're talking about a single picture as multiple people in it. Now, as you said, you could attach that to one of the people. And then and then point to that same picture from all the other people, right? That that's certainly one way that you could do it. But but in in terms of of the data management, that's not the cleanest way to handle it. The and the cleaner way to handle it is as you've suggested, you create a free space page. You you say that the the you could say that free space page is about that picture. Or you could say it's about that group. Or that class. >> Yeah, that class. >> Or that school. Right? So, how you how you categorize the the purpose of the free space page, that's kind of up to you in terms of what else you expect to ever do with that page. Now, so for example, with a class picture, I mean, I suppose that you could you could later find an earlier class picture of the same class in an earlier year, right? You might have want to have multiple pictures on the same free space page. But but when I think about that, I think no, that's probably not an effective way to manage the data. It's probably more effective to have a series of pages that shows, you know, through the years, here's how this class progressed. And then have have the each person mentioned on each page. Yes, go ahead. >> Was the tradition in this rural agricultural school to actually have a you know, they had about 20, 25 in their graduating classes, have individual senior pictures all in this this you know schematic with all of their teachers at the bottom, this display. So, what I could do is create that school and have their their photos from each year because I don't Yeah, I don't follow this class. This is back in '43. I don't follow the class because they were from all areas of the county. >> Mhm. >> But, uh yeah, so I might do that. I just I'm afraid to create my first free space page because >> I know, I felt that way when I did it, too. >> Yep. >> Yeah, fear not. You can't do it wrong, Ruth. That's number one. You can't do it wrong. If you don't like the way it looks the first time you do it, you can go in and change it. >> And what about for plat maps? I have a >> Ruth, do you have any pets? >> Plat maps would also do a free space page? >> Sure, why not? >> Yeah, okay. >> Ruth, do you have any pets? >> Do I have any pets? >> Yeah. >> Yeah, somewhere. >> Okay. So create your first space page. Take a picture of one of your pets. >> Mhm. >> And create a free space page and talk about your pet. That is a legitimate use of a free space page. You can't do it wrong cuz your pet. So, if somebody else doesn't like that free space page, tell them not to look. Right? Otherwise, you've got a free space page and you you'll get some confidence about creating free space pages. Like it's it's not really that hard a thing to do, but the but overcoming that obstacle the first time, I know I struggled to create my first free space page because it seems like everything's so regimented on WikiTree. Right? You got to do things the right way or or you you know, somehow you're you're flawed or and and and and somebody's going to scold you, but but really, there's all kinds of things that you can do on WikiTree that are really easy and you can just go ahead and do it. >> Mhm. So, even though I may never call it out in any person's profile, >> That's right. >> I might put my cat's free space page linked to my profile, but I don't know. I don't >> Yeah. >> Like I don't know. >> You could do that. Yeah. >> Okay, that's my assignment. I'll do it. >> I have an idea here. Um can I kill multiple birds with a single screen share? >> [laughter] >> Yes. >> I know. What what a horrible um phrase, but um since we were talking about cemeteries and since we're talking about free space pages, I can share one of mine just as an example. You know, I could go into other free space pages I own, too. To maybe give an idea of like what they can look like, not necessarily what they have to look like. Um also titles, I guess, are kind of a big thing because once you put a title on one it kind of locks it in, right? So it's not easy to change the title. You can change the displays, but you know, you're kind of stuck with like what actually it's saved as. You probably have to delete the page and start over on that again. Um, uh this is actually my personal category. This is where I put all of my stuff. It's saved under my profile ID, greenman-32667. Um, so I have a couple of uh random pages and I have a couple of cemetery pages. I'm going to actually go over here to Calvary Cemetery and Mausoleum, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Um, this is not too far from where I am, so I can go to that cemetery. Um, it's a very large cemetery, so obviously I don't have a lot on it, but if you can see, uh I've got a photo here that I took of the uh of the mausoleum itself, which is under uh reconstruction and restoration. It's a it's a very nice um so mausoleum with the classic uh Milwaukee cream city brick, I believe that's being used to build that building. You can see that. And uh I've put uh a bunch of the notable interments on this page, the ones that uh you can visit that that are historic to the city. They're founders or they're beer barons or somebody uh that was important to the city. Um, a couple of them about a year ago I actually went on a little tour at the cemetery, and a lot of these people were represented by reenactors. So you would walk to their graves and the reenactors would tell you about those people. They would talk as if they were the those people, like, you know, Patrick Cudahy or Solomon Juneau, and and you would learn through their perspective, you know, what their lives were like. And then you'd move on to the next. Um, and they had a series of, you know, groups that would go in a circle, so like another group would follow behind you, and they'd have somebody else to talk to. They're not just standing in a cemetery for the entire day doing nothing. Um, So, I I wanted to link to those people. You know, there's obviously a couple of Wikipedia links, so I'm not going to have a page on the Wisconsin state legislature here, but at least I can link to where, you know, that page exists elsewhere on the internet. The wherever there was a link to a profile, you know, I well, I guess I'm still working on that part. >> [laughter] >> And did I actually take this one over? I I honestly think maybe this one was somebody else's first and I made come ahead and assumed it later. But the idea would be that, you know, I'm going to try to break them down. This this one doesn't really show the distribution as much cuz this is such a bigger cemetery. But this one at least, you know, has a good photo on it. If I do go to one I did start for certain, that's going to be Where did you go? Where That's funny. Maybe it's nested. Okay, I guess I have to go through here to find it. That's funny. I'll be going to my old ancestral land here. Sauk County. This is another example of a free space page which doesn't really fall under one place study because there's places that are smaller than this. So, county will need get broken up into multiple free space pages here still. But like I drew a photo of the county and I uploaded it. I know that this is my copyright, I can upload this without an issue. So that just details some of the different municipalities, you know, the townships, the cities and the villages that we have in Wisconsin here. And within that, you know, I tried to break down like all the different people, what their surnames This is a very large page, so I was just going to skip the end here where the cemeteries are. So like if I go to online records and resources, there's a bunch of cemetery records that I'm trying to create uh still a lot of red links for some of these. And I do also have a section where I was trying to uh work on historical societies. Where did they go? Oh, okay. I have a spot for plat maps. I haven't uploaded anything for plat maps yet. Uh but I was going to take this link and I was going to go into the space page that I did work on considerably, which was St. John's Cemetery outside of Rock Springs, Wisconsin. And this is the category for it, but if you go to the page that's nested on it, now this opens up another space page. Again, I have another photo for it. I've also integrated this photo into the text. I've indicated the multiple names that it might show up as. There's another cemetery that it could be confused with, so I made sure to denote that as a a disambiguation statement here on the front of the page. And then I I went into, you know, what is the general layout? And I don't really have a history so much as the layout on this page. But I indicate where they are geographically, where section one, where section 10. And then I just go through and I just have them broken down. Here's section one. This person doesn't have a row identified, so I just threw them into the section in general. But the ones I did identify in the rows, I clustered those together by their graves. So they have grave 1, 9, 12, 13. So I still got some that I got to fill in there. And then I move on to the next section and the next row and so forth. And in this way, like I was indicating earlier, this is not a alphabetized list that you would see on the category. This is a geographic list of where they would be inside the cemetery, so you can go to that row. You can go straight to section two, row four, and find all the people that are on that row, right? So, and then if they had a find a grave account linked to that, and make sure that at least there was a a pathway between the two, so we need to cross-reference something, we could do that. Um and then, you know, some people I just didn't know where they were, but they were listed in the cemetery, uh a couple in notable interments and monuments that might be there, too. So, that that's an example of like what I'm I'm more detailed cemetery free space pages. Um and like I said, that the formatting is is how I've created it. It doesn't have to be like all the other ones. I mean, consistency is nice, but it's it's going to be impossible to corral cats across the entire Wiki, right? So, um and then uh just for goofy, just real quick here, I created a page called the Great Frog Invasion of 1952 because I thought, this is weird and it's related to the stuff that I like, so I want to talk about it. And I just said, this page is about the Great Frog Invasion of Oconto, Wisconsin in the summer of 1952. And then I talked about where it was located and why there was this frog invasion. It says that they lay their eggs in the marshes. And and so then there was that one year where all these frogs basically took over this city uh for 2 days. About 175 million leopard frogs hatched and took over Oconto. And I thought, man, if there were people that were there, I want to learn about that through them. I want to create profiles related to that as well. You know, so that's that's just a small little page um that I created. And again, it it could be literally anything. Cool? >> [laughter] >> Now, is Now, oh >> Yes, there's a >> to stay there for a second because it I want to know >> Yeah. >> Near the the of the profile, there's a button that says what links here and I what I want to know is uh whether whether anybody actually has linked to that page. >> So I have what links here visible to me. Um that is a toggle switch, right? So >> That's right. >> I have linked to it. >> [laughter] >> Because I have my list of free space pages on my profile. So currently no one else is referencing the Great Frog Invasion of 1952 except for me. But I'm still hopeful to find individuals that were there when it happened. So this this is my ongoing project. >> Maybe if you add a picture of the frogs. >> Yeah, that that would be good. I I don't tend to upload photos though because of copyright issues and I want to make sure that it what I'm uploading falls under that, you know, safe territory. If if this was 52, I mean that's that's what 74 years ago. Um so it you know, things could still be in copyright if they came from a newspaper publication. Um I I just I really need assistance with identifying what's okay in those situations. Um yeah. >> Nomina- nomina- nominative fair use is um is your one out. So Um if if if any newspaper ever referred to it as the Great Frog Invasion of 1952 >> Uh-huh. >> you can use that photo. You give them credit you give them appropriate credit. >> Of course, yeah. >> But you are naming the thing that they are naming. >> Mhm. >> Yeah, I don't I don't think I made this term up. Like this came across and there's this source page from Okanto that talks about the plague of frogs. So like it could also be called the the plague of frogs, but it's it's I don't know. I actually can't remember if I don't think that I just made up the name, but it's it sounded great. So I created the page for it. >> I think Heights got a question. >> night and I think Kate's trying to get our attention. I think she's >> Stephen, your your basic page >> Yeah. >> that you started with, can you put it in edit mode and tell me how you got columns um and headings like that? >> Yeah, yeah. So so in order to make columns, uh you just use the equal sign uh a couple of times to create this >> That's sections. >> section. >> Yeah, but you had No, your your very original page looks that that's everything you have. Greenwood this, Greenwood that. The very first page you showed us. >> Oh, oh sorry. >> That that that's a category. Um that that was a already set up like that because uh it was a category and not a page. So if I if I click on the uh here here's the category right here, it goes back to that. This this is a category that automatically clusters these things into columns. So I have nothing to do with that. >> So what is the category? How did you >> Uh again, this is a personal category. So you can make one for yourself, use your last name and your profile ID uh and then it would be nested within personal categories. So this is a category that can keeps up with everybody that has a personal category. >> Okay. >> And then that's within maintenance categories and and so on. Like you know, profile improvement categories. So so that's that's where it places on the category tree. >> So okay. >> Mhm. >> So I go to categories and I keep going down till I find personal categories and then I create one with my user ID. >> Um well, you can just create it right off your profile. So you would open up your profile >> Yeah. >> and you would add a category that is your profile ID. >> Uh-huh. >> Save it and it would create a red link to then create that category. You click on the red link and then it will ask you for information. What do you want to type on this page? So in in my case it's pretty simple. It's just this is the parent personal category for me. I link back to myself. Right? And then I save it. As as long as I put personal categories in as the um let me move this page uh the the faces are floating over the the uh edit button here. Uh so when I when I go in this is going to be simple. I need to make sure that I'm linking it back to personal categories so that everybody else that has personal category can see it. And then you know again just some text on the page. So I save that and then it creates creates the category and it will at least have your category in it. So like your because I have it linked off of mine it should link to my name. And I don't Oh oh here it is. Yeah, personal profile. So personal profile is where your profile will exist within the category. Now if this is a space page it's going to be this section up here that just says pages. But that's where going to be where all of your different items will show up that you worked on as long as you categorize them to your personal category. >> So will I put my pet under my personal category? >> Yes, you can put your pet under your personal category. Yes. >> Yes. >> So I think I actually killed three birds with this screen share. >> [laughter] >> Okay. >> Right? We talked about personal categories, free space pages, and cemeteries. Um and a couple of new comments here as well. >> Yeah, just an FYI, this is set up so that multiple people can share their screen. So you don't have to shut it down for somebody else to bring up another shared screen. >> Well, I didn't know we could do two screens at once. >> Yes, we have multi-share now. >> Wow. Multi-pass. >> Mhm. >> Uh Oh, Ruth, so I should go to the Facebook page, make an inquiry about the Great Frog Invasion. Okay, I might check that out. >> I say that because people who were around in the '50s are probably retired by now and have a lot of extra time and >> [clears throat] >> release these Facebook pages, so you know. >> Yeah. >> Spoken like someone who's familiar. >> [laughter] >> Do you happen to be in Wisconsin, do you, Ruth? >> Across [clears throat] the lake, directly across the lake. >> Oh, you're in Michigan? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> I'm not in Michigan now, but I grew up in there. >> Okay. Oconto is like 3 hours from me. I'd have to drive to the north a bit. >> Oh, so you're in Illinois? >> I'm in Wisconsin. And if I drive about half an hour south, I can get to Illinois. >> We don't hold that against them, though. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Um y'all, I was I was wrong about that photo. That's on Ancestry, not WikiTree. >> Yeah, yeah, you can do that on Ancestry. >> Yeah, part of part of their new functionality. So, I'm I'm just waiting for them to start charging extra for that. >> Oh, God. >> But we can always crop a photo. Doesn't cost anything extra to crop a photo and upload that. >> That's true. Yeah, I I've not used the version in Ancestry. I I have my own tools, but I I'm just, you know, anticipating. Just like with the pro tools. Yeah, go ahead. I'm sorry. >> My um desktop program, you can upload a photograph. You can put in a link a photograph, put a photograph on into your project. And you can actually highlight each individual in that um particular one to their particular um place in your family. So, it's really good. It's like so I've got a big family group photograph and I can go and just put a little box around each space and that will show on that person's um it's something called family historian which I have been using for years. So, >> Yeah. Yeah. >> [clears throat] >> Yeah. Ancestry does that with the yearbooks, you know, if you look at the school yearbooks. >> Yeah. >> Uh you may see multiple faces on the page, but it will hone in on the one person whose picture you need and it'll save it to their their profile on the Ancestry. Um when when you do that, but um >> It was great to have you with us today and we hope you'll join us again. We hold these sessions every second Thursday evening and fourth Sunday morning of the month. That's United States Eastern Time. You can always find the full details on the member Q&A via Zoom free space page. Or follow the new members tag so that you are sure to see our monthly post in G2G. In the meantime, see you in the branches. >> [music] [music]