Master P Slavery Statement "YOU STILL HARPING ON THAT"

[music] >> Yeah, we on Boss Talk TV. Shout out to E heated reason you see >> And these doors will open up for you. Uh, building great relationships and I think that's the biggest thing for me. Trying to get that negative mindset out of our culture cuz they still going back to, "Oh man, slavery. They did us this." And And And I'm like, "You still harping on that, man? I never harped on that." Because I can't change the past, but I can change the future. And I think you got to get used to us being successful. And I think a lot of us, we block our own blessings cuz we don't think that we could do it because we looking at a color. >> Wow. Wow, guys. A- A- And if you hadn't heard that, that's Master P, man. He's giving you uh, pretty much letting you understand how things um, man, listen. Man, things can go crazy at times. Um, people mind can get caught up, man, and they can get It can be a major setback when you experience situations in your family and curses from generation come down from generation to generation. How are we going to stop this curse? How are we going to change our mindset? And I think uh, P spoke on it here and I want to get all the way into it. Now, listen, I wouldn't even spoke on this, guys, if it hadn't have been for my guy Drake calling me asking me, "What you think about that?" Oh oh So, all all all over the top, I I I have to speak on it uh, when Drake called me cuz Drake from around the way is on the phone right now, man. What up, Drake? >> E, what up? What up? >> So, talk to me, man. I seen the uh, I seen it, but I didn't really read into it as I I I normally would, but I did watch the interview, man. I'm a big Master P fan. Uh, I'm a big No Limit Soldier. Uh, you know, advocate when it when it come down uh, for to that movement. Uh It's under that Mason-Dixon line, man. Cash Money, UGK, Rap-A-Lot, Swishahouse. You know already how I roll. Everybody know how I roll, but this has become a big big uh conversation. I just wanted to get your insight on it after you called me about it. I didn't really read into it. I've heard this statement before. I believe it was something like that Kanye said, wasn't it? >> Well, Kanye said that if you still in that mindset, then it's like a choice. That's That was his concept. >> So, is that different or is that the same? >> It's a little bit different. Um I think that I think that uh both of them are wrong in one instance. Now, what I will say on being objective on P's behalf is look, in the in the one of my favorite books that really taught me a lot about business. One of my favorite books is How the Jews Bought and Built Hollywood. It's probably the most powerful book that you will ever read for the simple fact that they own television, they own radio, they [snorts] own music. Right? >> Right. >> For example, if you were to say something about them in a movie or on television, the first thing they would say to you was that's anti-Semitic. But then you have to ask yourself a question. Uh how was it anti-Semitic when you're the one that own the airways? I cannot come to E's house and say something about Miss Jamaica and E's kids inside of E's house because it's whose house? E's house. You're not going to stand for that, right? You'll be like, "Yo, get out of my house." Correct? I say all that to say there's a saying in their community called never forget, right? And what is that referring to? The Holocaust, right? They use those things in order to push a narrative constantly. Never forget. In P's case, listen, I'mma do business regardless, but in the back of my mind, I understand never forget what happened to my ancestors. King blood is in the ground and bones is in the soil. You understand? One Two things can be right at the same >> Did he Did he say that though? I don't I don't I don't remember him saying that. >> He said he said move past it. We can't think about it. >> Correct. So, I don't That is different from what you just said. >> No, that I didn't say that. I said I can acknowledge that it happened, but I'm still going to do business. That's what I just said. >> Yeah, but then you said that P basically said that like it was referring to like like knowing what our people went through, but I don't think he went that deep in the detail. I think, you know, he when he was speaking on it, he looked at the point of pressing forward, moving past all of the stuff that you've been through. You know, um and moving The The Bible say I press on toward the mark of the high calling, which is in Christ Jesus. You know, I'm a I'm a biblical person and and basically when you you know, one thing about when you I don't know if you ever shot a bow and arrow. We used to have bow and arrows when I was a kid. And And I'm not just talking about the one we made. We made some with fish string and sticks, you know. And I mean vines out of the woods. We would take one and we'd make a vine and we'd bend it. We find the right bow and then we put the string on there then we would make We'd go and get them little hay sticks and we'd shoot those hay sticks. But then my uncle got a a a a a one that was a real one. Like I was like, "Wow, it was hard to pull back." When you pull it, you had to have strength. It used to to back on you. My uncle I remember him getting that. But and and and to make a long story longer, um my absolute remembrance of that is, we set a target up and we we would shoot that target. We'd make it like a bull's-eye on the tree. But once we shot it, we shoot that arrow, we miss, or we get close to the mark, but we didn't hit the mark. But we never ever focus on the mark we didn't hit. We just reaching our bag, grab another arrow, and shoot again. And that one that had already [clears throat] not hit the bull's-eye, we never thought about it twice. And I believe that's what he's more pushing toward of of of pressing on, even though we went through a situation, but that's not as as easy as said than done for some people, and that's that's a challenge. Everybody don't have the same mindset. Everybody have the same 24 hours in a day. It's kind of you never get them back again after the day is gone, but I believe when he's making these statements, I believe, um, you know, he's in he's in a different place than most, and I think some people easily are are going to be offended by what you say when you're in a better position than them. A lot of times, or if you have a stage set, so you really have to be careful because when you say something, the power ignites of your voice because of you being, uh, you know, he put that work in. He created opportunity for himself. Um, I like to uh think of boss talk like that, like we got it out the mud, you know what I mean? Like we and I know people like, "Man, don't say you had No, we started from nothing." He took $10,000 and and went and made something out of it, you know? And and you get you can't take that from him. But there's some people that are not going to understand how to maneuver because of the the that they were done or the things they went through in their lifetime and their mental capacity. So, I think it's a little different for each and every individual how they heal because of what we've been through. I'll and I'll I'll let you speak, Dre. >> Yeah, well, you basically once again, you just said the same thing I said. You do that in spite of Look, at the end of the day, my mother's father, Frank Williams, sharecropper, his wife, Rosie Lee Williams, sharecropper. And that means that my generation is not far from slavery, right? So, but you know what my grandfather did in his sharecropping? He opened up a general store at the time, that's what it was called, a general store, right? So, he sold a little bit of everything. >> He bit off the Dollar General Store. >> Well, I think he was there before the Dollar >> I don't know about that. I think he bit, but go ahead. >> All right, yeah. And so, he sold everything from candy or as they would say in in North Carolina, pickles, right? Pickles, right? They sold everything. The point that I'm making is he didn't say Now, he was one generation separated from slavery, technically. >> Right. >> He didn't say, "Well, I can't open up this general store." The point that I'm making is Look, it exists totally. And it is a part of our lineage and our birthright, but at the same time, we have to be able to acknowledge what happened, but also move forward. That's what I'm saying. Now, the second hand of that is that with P, the bottom line is he's not hot right now, and he's trying to sell a culture. See, when you know this because >> Well, wait Well, let me let me stop you, right? Let me No, I got to stop you, bro. He's not hot right now. I don't know what the hot you looking for, but I've been on that damn stage with him, and I've been in them concerts, and I've been to those places. Those people filling them damn rooms up. So, I'mma be honest with you, what is considered hot because I've been on some of these younger people's stages with them, and they can't even get the damn room filled, and it's barely it's skittish out there in the crowd. So, when you talk about hot, I think he hot as fish grease if you look at it from that perspective. Now, how he deal with how he invest the money that he get, that's something totally different. But, for as his his credibility and the people showing up for him and the people rocking out with with with the way that No Limit is, there I mean, I can't I can't agree with you on that. I think he hot as [ __ ] I think he real hot, to be honest with you. I think there's a lot of older cats. I just was with Scarface. I think there's a lot of older cats that's way hot. When I go to these I go to these venues with these people, and I go to the younger people's venues, too. And I go to the one and in certain ones, they don't make the movement. When I was with Cash Money and went down there to Essence, or when I was with P on Versus, or when I was with P and them at the Toyota Center here in Dallas, these guys are are killing the game when it come down to people love them, bro. They're coming out with all black on. They're coming out with all camo on. They're coming out. They even even the the guys that came up and did the comedy from Louisiana, man. These people come out for these people. They love these people. So, when it come down to if they hot or not, I believe that's going to be a subjective ass statement that you just made. >> Yeah, uh so, I presume you have a pair of Mugati sneakers competing. >> I haven't got to meet P yet to even, you know, I'mma be honest with you. If I Let me Let me just say I'm glad you brought that up. If I had I hadn't got to sit down with P on my show yet. But, everybody that I've sit down on my show with, Eightball MJG, the coffee, um Bun B, the Trae the Truth, you see them on the shelf. Any of the guys that look at you see E-40, you see 50 Cent look on it. Anybody that I've had that that that engagement with to where we got to have a conversation, their stuff is on the shelf behind me and I and and the books and everything I I display those purposely because at the end of the day, those are the people that that that rock with me. So, the Menotti shoes, I've been seeing [clears throat] them. I've seen them take them on the Breakfast Club. I've seen them on a few places but I represent my people, man, down here under this Mason-Dixon line. So, if I had met him and if I that store that I've been have for 20 years, if if me and him had rocked out just like Kiki's stuff and just like Pimp C's son's stuff, everybody that come in my shop, all of their stuff is there and I pay money for it a lot of times. Sometimes like like Bun B and them throw me stuff and and 8Ball and them threw me certain things but even if they're selling it, I buy it cuz I've been buying you and I both know I've been buying for over 20 something odd year. I've been buying almost 30 years from people who don't look like us in some cases. I'd be damned if I wouldn't buy from the people who look like us. You know what I mean? So, most of the product I sold was people that look like us but when it came down to that dollar, that mighty dollar, when it came to different brands like Rock Revival or Ed Hardy or Christian Audigier, I went and spent 10,000 and and 5,000 opening them accounts up, 20,000 and and it basically was a thing that I always invested in our people and I always invested what we had at the time but you can damn well believe if I've been rocking with him and I tried and and it's probably still going to happen but just um the shoes, I would have put them in there and I would have hell yeah, I'd wear them cuz he these are people's shoes. So, and I would have promoted them and tried to sell them as well but at the end of the day, that that's neither here nor there but to your statement, hell yeah, I would have I would I would I would invest in them. That ain't that that goes without saying, but I never have gotten into them like that. I don't buy a lot of tennis shoes, Dre, as you already know, man. I'm you know, I'm a Coogi type of dude, you know what I'm saying? I'm I'm a you know, I'll buy a few tennis, but I'm more of a dope man Nike Cortez type of guy, you know what I'm saying? Like I'm not too caught up in it like these other people are. They all spend money on stuff that I really it doesn't really amaze me like that, you know what I mean? But I'll buy for the buy buy for a consumer for sure. >> Right. So, with all that being said, I respect the cereal P did. I respect Rap Snacks which you Rap Snacks which he was behind at one time. I respect it. Once again, all I said was you have to understand who buys our culture. >> Wait a minute. I don't mean to cut you, but do you right? I I definitely mean, you know, I put them cereal in there and I I definitely ate the cereal, did you know, little drops about the cereal and and and the Rap Snacks, all that stuff. I remember when we big court came in the store, he said, "Boy, you better not eat that, man. It was outdated, but I've been had them in the store." I always ever since I started, I kept the Rap Snacks and stuff in there before I even met any other camp. So, that that's just who I am, but you're right. When you said that, it made me think about that. A lot of that stuff has been in the store for over every I've been there 20 years, so I would always go purchase that stuff and put it somewhere in the store, but I think we all support P if you're really from down here. A lot of the guys who really rock with him, you know? >> Listen, I support P 100% in the fact that he is like me, he's an entrepreneur. Entrepreneur basically just in in layman's terms, you're a risk taker. >> Right. >> You're taking a risk to have your own time, work for yourself, and and pretty pretty much control your own destiny, right? That's why entrepreneurs usually get along with entrepreneurs. Point that I'm making is the simple our culture is we create it and everybody else purchase it. Period. So, with that being said, we also have to be cognizant of where we came from in that. And I'm not and listen, I will sell to a Eskimo. >> Oh, yeah. I know it. >> I I I'll sell solar power to the sun if I could. The bottom line is and but I also know where my ancestors came from at the same time. Two things can be done at the same time. That's all I'm saying. So, me taking the objective approach in this conversation, I'm just saying, "Look, homie. Look, sometimes we have to understand our audience, right?" And understanding our audience helps us be able to deliver the message without encroaching on somebody's feelings. See, sometimes I think he was more centered on the message instead of not understanding the emotional value. You just said it earlier, some people ain't over it. Some people can't get over that. I get it. So, for me, I'm I'm pro-entrepreneur, I'm pro-business. I don't have to bring up the fact that cuz I already know where we came from. So, I don't have to bring that up in that conversation is all I'm trying to say. >> Hold on. Let me Let me play a little bit more of it. >> Biggest surprise Biggest surprise of the start >> You've been in this >> Yeah. >> game for a very very long time. What's been the biggest surprise about it all? >> Our own culture don't believe that we could do it. >> Mhm. >> You know, cuz that that they they just don't get it. They're like how you could do this. I mean, like if I could do it anybody could do it. You don't have to be the smartest person in the world. You don't have to be a rocket scientist. You just got to have integrity and do good business and these doors will open up for you. Uh building great relationships and I think that's the biggest thing for me trying to get that negative mindset out of our culture cuz they still going back to oh man slavery, they did us this and and and I'm like you still hopping on that man. I never hopped on that because I can't change the past but I can change the future and I think Hey. >> I'm going to stop right there. Um I agree with him on the fact that that that that a lot of times certain people I don't think it's all people but certain people that that uh we um that that are in the culture uh it's tough for all of them to get over certain things. I don't I think it's it's it's it's subjective to who's doing that, you know, but far as uh that's his opinion on that, you know what I mean? And I think that's a the way that he looks at it um you know, it's it's tough man because you do run into people who you they they do man you got no I remember when I first started selling clothes man I was selling I was you you know I was selling clothes that was premium clothes, right? So you would see me sell I had a at one point I got a $700 True Religion suits. I got This is when it was really popping $150 Ed Hardy shirts uh Christian Audigier uh uh what's that what's that uh Dutch Von Dutch uh hats going for $100. Um uh Robins uh jeans going for crazy numbers man and and not only Robins jeans what was the other one that we was doing man them uh them belts uh man them them big old be that bedazzled belts I don't forgot. >> you I know you was talking about I know you >> I was charging five $600 for them belts man paying two and $300. >> I was paying two and $300 selling them, trying to double down, but giving 20% off the top cuz everybody that's in the clothes game knows half the tag times 2.2. So, I always I never I never would, you know, get out on my people. I'mma always just you take the 20% off the top. I'll hit get hit with the shipping. You know, I'm I'm sharing the fact that we got it to the store. People really understand business. We got it to the store. The people in the community I love those people. They've been supporting me for the last 20 years. Okay, now that I got this belt you've been wanting this belt, but you can't afford this belt. So, you I'mma knock 20% off on me, knock 20% off on you, and and and you know, I might make 10 or 15% something like that. You know what I mean? But, it's going to be fluctuating on what we make off of it cuz definitely I'm going to pay the price for the product. You know what I mean? So, this is what we was doing. And so, this is just this is the way the business go, man. You know, at the end of the day um but but the culture would look at me sometime and just just look at me like in disgust like, "Man, who you think going to buy that? Who you think going to do that? And that's too much, man." These are my people doing that. But, at the end of the day I'm like there's some people that don't think like that that's buying these damn belts as soon as I can get them in here. You know what I mean? Or buying these clothes as soon as I get them in here. So, everybody has a a thought product process that's different than others. Don't you agree? >> For every person that won't there's somebody that will when it comes to that. We We understand that. We understand the side of that business where somebody say, "I ain't paying 300 for no jeans." And you know what I usually tell them? Because you don't have the 300 to pay for it. There was an artist that you heard me tell the story before. There was a real artist. He had a big record 2006. And he was in our office. And he saw me wearing these Evisu jeans. And he's like, "Man, how much you think my jeans cost?" I was like, "I don't know." He was like, "$15." I said to that person I said this the more your record chart the more you going to be like, you know what? I'm going to buy these Yeezy Boosts. And you know what that man said on one of his records a year later? Yeezy Boost, we don't wear white tees. And you know who text him? Me. >> What you say? >> I said, well, ain't that a [ __ ] I ain't giving y'all no more. You damn sure wearing any Yeezy Boosts. Oh, oh, Drake. Oh, Drake, man, you know it's all I I know it's all love. I said daddy daddy understands. >> Man, and you know you're you're absolutely right, man. It's a mindset that I think you you pretty much seconding that emotion like it's the mindset. The mindset is something else, man. Everything starts with the mind. You know what I mean? The mass hysteria. Your mind have you saying this or thinking that. And your mind have you So, you have the battles is is in your mind. Your mind is what causes you to make it or not make it. Your mind is what caused you to reflect or not reflect. And I think that's what's happening. And I think P pretty much said something that it didn't get a lot you know, didn't go into a lot of detail. And I think that's where you start to see people, you know, saying this or saying that because they like, wait wait a minute, you know? But at the end of the day, it's mindset. You know what I mean? You have to get your mind wrapped around where you want to go in this life. So, everybody don't want to be a billionaire. Everybody don't want to be strive to be a millionaire. I know some people who don't even care to entertain that. And and them be the ones that a lot of times have the get the money and don't even really care nothing about it, you know what I mean? So, everybody's not even caught up on the same thing if you really be be real about it, you know what I mean? So, I've seen guys >> Man, let me just say this, look. You're a man of the Bible, right? You love your you love your book, right? >> Oh, for sure. I I read a lot of books, but the Bible is the one that I believe in for sure. >> that's >> your book. That's your book, right? >> As the book says, as a man thinketh >> in his heart >> shall he be. >> There you go. >> And so, at the end of the day this is my This is what I'm going to tell the people that's listening to you and I go back and forth. If I was in that position where I have a conversation, I'm simply just going to speak on group economics agency and nepotism. I don't have to even bring up the concept of slavery because slavery will always be in our history of the United States of America. But what I can do is not even bring it up and you and the Let's say that was you interviewing me and we focus on group economics and how we're going to progress our products, our businesses, our families. And guess what? Then this conversation don't need to be had. Do you understand where I'm coming from? >> No, I don't understand where you're coming from because I want to be honest with you. If you just talked about those things you just talked about and you said those things, nobody wouldn't even watch the interview. I think Master P did exactly what he posed to do and he getting ready to go on this tour and I think he knows already how to market and I think he knows he knows it He's been doing this long time, man. So, I think he says things that he knows going to get the algorithm going as well. So, I don't think I think he believes in it, but I also know that he's a he's he's a strategist and he wouldn't even be doing these interviews if he I mean, I just seen other guys on I think it was Sway in the Morning or or where that 45 station. I've seen Juvenile and BG, they just went on The Breakfast Club. So, everybody's everybody's making their rounds, man, and I think I think it was a superb thing to do and I think he's a marketing guru for doing it. You know what I mean? >> [laughter] >> Well, we'll we'll agree to disagree on that. I will say this, though. If that's the case, I'm I'm a I'm going to play your side of the street. If that's the case then he won. >> [laughter] >> We doing what we supposed to do. Getting We conversating. >> If that's the case, if your if your premonition and theory is true, then you know what? Forget everything I said in this conversation. He won. [laughter] But if I was in that position and I'm promoting a business, I'm not bringing up something that sensitive, especially talking to another person of my hue. In that position, I'm focusing on how do we make Boss [snorts] Talk the number one podcast or how do I make my brands the number one clothing within our own community without bringing up what we call in politics the vestiges and the advent of slavery, right? >> Wow. >> That's just me because I'm going to focus You know, my father used to say, he said, "Andre, you're fat. You don't got my green eyes. And you kind of ugly." He said, "You better learn how to talk to women in the way you need to talk to them and and he was right. I'm not going to bring up stuff then that's going to deter the conversation. I'm going to bring it up the stuff that's going to push forward. >> The conversation. All right. All right. Well, hey man, thank you for sending this to me cuz I got to tell you I wasn't even going to speak on it cuz I really know how how I I I really value these guys and and and the camps and and and these guys are dope. But I know these are conversations that are being heard. I see that algorithm. So I I definitely didn't it it didn't I don't shy back from nothing first of all. Ain't no shying back. We going to have this conversation. We going to talk about it. We going to give our our people what they looking for. The truth also how we feel about what was said. And rock with all these guys, man. But if you a brother and you're an entrepreneur, man, listen, man, get your money, man, and and and try to come up with strategies to win. I can tell you that much. Cuz at the end of the day you will be left behind standing if you don't get about that work. 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