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The video centers on a deep dialogue between Preeti Upanishad and Maharishi Mahesh Yogi regarding the nature of spiritual dependence versus true independence within the Guru-Shishya (teacher-disciple) tradition. The guest, Monad, admits to a lifelong pattern of seeking external validation through various ashrams, relationships, and satsangs, often feeling unable to fully commit or fearing he is missing out on something better elsewhere. Maharishi challenges this mindset by reframing dependence not as a spiritual flaw but as a lack of loyalty and the inability to stick with one path due to fear. He argues that true independence comes from learning how to give without calculation or expectation, rather than measuring every interaction in terms of what is received versus what is given. A significant portion of the conversation focuses on the concept of *dakshina* (offering) as a practical tool for shifting one's consciousness from egoic measurement to flow. Maharishi points out that Monad has spent decades giving his time and energy to various gurus without ever making even a small offering, citing fear or waiting until the "last satsang" as an excuse. This hesitation is identified not just as stinginess but as a subtle form of attachment where one wants to take from life while refusing to give back, which keeps the individual trapped in a state of being "pinched." The teacher explains that giving without thinking creates a dynamic flow; when you stop measuring and start giving generously into situations—whether it is money, time, or presence—you naturally receive more than you expect. This practice dismantles the ego's need to control outcomes and helps dissolve the illusion of separation between the giver and the receiver. The dialogue also addresses the confusion many seekers face by conflating spiritual systems with God itself. Monad shares a painful experience where he felt rejected by an ashram after leaving, interpreting this rejection as divine abandonment because he had identified his system with God. Maharishi gently corrects this misconception, clarifying that no human organization or guru can replace the Divine within; rather, these systems are merely vehicles designed to help individuals connect with their own inner truth (*Antar Guru*). He emphasizes that respecting a system is essential for learning its rules and receiving guidance, much like one must respect university regulations to earn a degree. The teacher advises Monad, who has spent thirty years exploring different paths, to stop "guru tourism" and commit fully to one path or guru by the age of 36 if he wishes to avoid further confusion. Ultimately, Maharishi encourages Monad to embrace his inherent nature as *shishya* material within the Guru-Shishya framework rather than rejecting it due to past hurts. He suggests that while some gurus may not be meant for a traditional disciple path, others are specifically called by life's circumstances to guide seekers like Monad toward self-realization. The conversation concludes with an invitation to find joy and abundance in spiritual practice, moving away from the serious, floaty demeanor often associated with spirituality towards a grounded presence filled with laughter and love. Maharishi urges him to decide on one path, respect its rules, give fearlessly, and allow life's flow to guide him toward self-realization without the anxiety of constantly searching for something new or better elsewhere.
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If you wish to remain connected with Maharishika, independent of social media, sign up to our mailing list at maharishika.org/contact or scan the QR code. Welcome to the truth impulse movement. >> Things don't go according to how you want in Guru Shishya. It's not a psychologist who has certain rules of behavior. Uh-uh, it's not psychology. Guru will squeeze you and turn you around and throw you in the air and catch you again and all of that must have already happened to you. No? >> I was the guy who was running after every movement that was saying, you know, we have to to make it. I say, yes, I'm here. Here, hands up. >> And now you grace us with the end result of those failures, is it? Namaskar. >> My name is Monad. The question I'm having is between devotion and dependency. So, if I look through my life, it's like there was always a tendency to be depending. Sometimes was on an ashram or a on a practice, on an image, on a teaching. It was only very late in life that I started to rely more internally. Still again, an attitude of depending this time of the presence of a woman who was a friend, a relationship. So, that was always there. And when I find myself alone, I still tend to want to hook to someone. And maybe if not the person, maybe it's a satsang like like now. I come to the satsang. I love to sit here. I just want to come here and just uh my usual routine is less important. I I just love I always told myself this is beautiful, but there's there's also some aspect about my attitude that I feel I would like to resolve. In a sense, it makes me always um yes, be dependent, feeling reliant. >> You want to change it? >> Yes. >> Why? Why do you want to change it? >> Mhm. >> Is it something wrong to want to be with a person or be in an ashram or chant something or go to a satsang? It's okay. >> Yeah, sure. >> [laughter] >> You're all okay. It's a good thing. >> See, okay, if if I look at my history, it's like at a point I was on my own, then I wanted like a company, like a female company. I was projecting my desire on every person I was meeting basically. Then I was with the person, then conflicts were there and dissatisfaction on both sides. Then I'm again on my own, but I'm attached to a person, then the attachment phase. Then I come to satsang, then I enjoy every time an attachment phase and I get attached to something that I take as being an expression of the divine generally speaking. I feel that's good. I love to be in love with the divine. It's the only thing that saved me through my stupidity. >> So, the problem is that you can't really fully commit to anything in your life. Isn't it that more than anything else? I don't think it's a problem of dependence, it's a problem of not having loyalty, not having >> Yeah, maybe. Maybe. Maybe. >> Not being strict about something and holding with and staying with it. >> Possible. Yeah, sure. >> And that is a that is a the problem. >> Yeah, possible. >> So, that's what you have to change. Okay. If you go to an ashram, you go to a satsang, you have a relationship with somebody, they're all different things. You cannot put them all in one pot. To start with, but the fact of the matter is that there are people in this world who just cannot commit to anything because they're always afraid they're missing something out somewhere else. There's always that little fear that if I commit too deeply into this, then I miss out something else somewhere. >> Sure. >> So, if you never commit to anything, this is the result. >> Okay. >> So, maybe it's time to find something to which you hold, whether it's a practice or it's a ashram or it's a relationship or whatever it is, but if you don't commit to anything, then you will just be there in Italy in your village and come to India every year and do some guru tourism and then go back. It's not going to result in any self-realization. >> Mhm. >> So, you have to also stick to something. Even, for example, there are students, shishyas, their guru is very stupid. They know also that the guru doesn't know anything. But they decide, "This is my guru now. That's my guru. That's it." They're not there trying to measure, "Mhm, how much does he know or she knows? And does she know this agama and this veda? And okay, but no, but has she read this upanishad or has he how many disciples has he?" They're not sitting there calculating everything or how much do they know or the the the issue with you is that the moment you have to give something, you retract. That's the problem. >> Mhm. >> And and that's it how it will be. >> What [laughter] is the What is the solution? Because I I don't see it coming. >> Start giving. First, you put a dakshina and that that's the first step. >> Okay. [laughter] Sure. >> Then after that, we'll talk about the next step. >> Cool. Okay. Thank you, wish you well. >> The issue is the giving. The more you give, the more you flow with life. It's always a discussion in your head about giving. And I I don't mean like here, I mean everywhere. It's always measuring, you know. On a subtle level. That is also your inheritance. I mean, you come from that genetic imprint of everything being measured in give and take. The thing is that giving is something which has its own dynamic. You if you give without thinking too much, you also get without having to think about getting. So, there are a lot of people in their 40s, their 50s, and they are there very sort of pinched. You know the word? They don't have that vibrance of youth anymore, but because they've always been measuring how much Do you know this this auto rickshaw driver? He's charging me 10 rupees, but actually it's 8 rupee. What difference does it make? 10 rupees, 15 rupees, 20 rupees, 30 rupees. Just give him the money and move on. But no, calculate 1 rupee, 2 rupee. And then they become pinched. I'm not saying you are like that necessarily, but there is that possibility there in you to be measuring always. Okay? If I don't get this from him, then I will not give that. And always trying to get more and give less. On an energetic level, I mean also. Then the result is that you're not connected to anything. And there are nice old age homes then in Italy. And there you will be with very few people visiting you. That's how it ends. Millions of people like that. But it's only about learning how to give fearlessly. I'm not saying that you're not a giver, but you have an issue in that area. It's a pinchedness about everything. Don't start Don't measure too much. Just give in generous arcs. You will receive in generous arcs from life itself. Because you never know, you know. You give something today, maybe 5 years later you need something and there'll be somebody to give. Life is not so easily measurable. So, it's better to be on the You give more into life. And take less. Not the other way around that everybody is taught. Oh, I go into a shop. How much is this shirt? It's $20 or $200. Oh, maybe I can find the same shirt for $20 less. Then you spend 5 days looking for the same shirt for $20 less. And actually you've lost 5 days. You know what I mean? That giving without thinking too much is very important. Why do we need to get so much? We can also give more than we get. Just give more than you get. What happens? You're not going to die. You might actually live that way. Doesn't it make sense what I'm saying? Does it? But I'm telling you that it's not like that. So, you have to maybe look at yourself. I was saying that in general it is safer to give more in any situation. You know, there are people who come here, I give you an example. They come here, they come in last time say we were in Rishikesh. They will sit for 30 satsangs. Every day they'll come on time, they'll leave on time and everything. But and they will ask, "When is the next When is Maharishika ji coming again to Rishikesh? When is she in Tiruvannamalai?" And then one of the sadhaks will say, "Listen, please give us your email. We'll send you the message because we cannot answer questions like this to hundreds of people, you know?" But they won't give the email. It's like a sort of a holding back. They won't give the email, but they want all the information. And some sadhak has to stand and tell them for 10 minutes, "Abstain." And like that, it's it's an example of someone who is just taking and taking and taking from life and not even ready to make that small step to help us so that we don't have to spend time explaining to them. So then somebody would come and ask me what to do with such people. Then I said, "Then then don't give them any answers." I'm saying even on that level giving is so difficult for many people. I mean it that way also. Or you you meet somebody, a woman you want to spend some time with, you know? And I'm not saying you, but they will not walk her till the till the train station. It's too much effort. Even that giving is not there. It's a culture of people that are taught from childhood to take as much as possible from life and give as little as possible. But there's always that holier-than-thou attitude of you have to help the poor and I'm helping the poor. No, you're not helping anyone. You're just feeding your ego. We have to learn to distinguish. When are we feeding the ego and when are we actually giving? It's a very hard thing to hear. You know. It's called surrender. It's called bending. It's called tuning into the truth and living from that truth rather than from the loud and clamoring noise of the ego always making you measure everything. You know. It's not dependence if you if you feel the need to be in a path or go to a satsang or be in a relationship or the dependence is not there. The dependence is on the idea of taking as much as possible and giving as little as possible. That's the dependence. You become independent of that idea where your existence is about giving as much as possible wherever you can. No expectations. Give. And then you see what happens after that. It's hard to hear what I'm saying, but you'll see that there is truth in it. It's very subtle the ego when it makes you start measuring everything in life. It's so subtle. You think you're actually a very generous, giving, and loving person, but actually you're measuring all the time. And when you stop measuring, suddenly you won't feel you're dependent on anything. It's just flow. I'm going here, I'm doing this, I'm with this person, because you're in a giving state. How will you feel dependent? He's thinking. You can come here if you want to speak. Can't hear you. Do you want to argue with me? But you can argue. That's why I'm sitting here. I'm not sitting here to to just you know, if you have a if you have a valid argument, I'm ready to listen. >> As I listen to you, many questions arise and I'm happy to ask you and see what is coming and then call me to receive and absorb what has been said. >> You also have to come to give into it. Just surrender myself. And I I don't I I mean, it's not about I'm coming to receive and take. It's about I'm bringing my presence also to this space. You have to think like that. The thinking has to shift. >> The first part was this awakening of Kundalini. Although you say it's already awakened, but I remember when this event happened and I felt this energy and then I felt that everything was love. I felt then one day just and [snorts] it got you know, completely spacious and my nervous system was deranged and stuff. I didn't have the right understanding. I didn't have a one-to-one guidance. So I was doing what I felt was great and I almost destroyed myself. So this is a part of the story. Um luckily I survived. My life became simpler, more beautiful, more harmonious. It still is like there is an urge like to progress and on some aspects I I see I cannot progress because on some levels I tend to do the same thing again and again. And one thing is, I get attached to women, which is ridiculous because I was celebrate for 15 years. And that was easy. Then all of a sudden it's like I'm keep projecting on a woman that she is my savior, so to speak. This is my point that I want to understand that I try to work on. >> What do you want to understand? >> Again and again is like I have been told I should be alone, but I don't want to be alone. I've been alone in that way for so many years. >> Why do you want to be alone? >> No, I don't want to be alone. >> Do you have children? >> No. >> So then find a woman and have some children. Be normal. >> I never wanted children. >> Why? Because it's giving, right? It's giving. You can be a You can be one of those spiritual seekers you see in in Rishikesh, all floating about this much above the ground, and they don't even realize who's in front of them. They don't know there's a cow dung, they put their foot in it, and they are they are just in such a state. They are not sadhus. They're not sadhus. If you're a sadhu, that's okay. Put on the orange robes and walk away from society. You are living in society, but you don't want to have to raise a child because it's very difficult to do that. >> Actually, no. I mean, I'm 56 now. I'm not younger. I'm 56. >> So what if you're 56? So what? So what? You have an urge to be with a woman, right? And you think it's wrong to do that. That's strange. >> No, I see >> It's right to do because your ego will be nicely slapped by that woman. >> My attempt to do that is failing. The moment I try to relate with women, always that doesn't work. >> Because you have to learn how to give. I'm telling you the answer. You have to learn how to give. Giving. To realize, oh, this is a woman, which is already a Katana, dangerous character anyways. Then, now I have to learn how to give to her because you are not ready to to give. And giving doesn't mean emotional statements. It means coming to yourself to be powerful and straightforward standing in front of that woman so that she really respects you. Which woman will respect a guy who's floating in Satsang somewhere? That's why you don't get the woman. Those guys who get the women are the ones who are all like tough and straightforward and here and now and like that. They get the women because the women want to be with a guy who, one, is going to protect them, two, who's going to ensure that they are financially kind of okay. And three, who's going to offer them the world. >> [laughter] >> What are you offering her? >> Actually, I was in a relationship with a woman who was like that. It's like she had the whole world to give me and it was so difficult because I felt I had nothing to give her. Apart from my love and my presence, there wasn't much >> Love. What is love? >> She was financially very stable. She was very kind. >> What is this love? You had love to give her. Meaning, how does it express itself? Love, lot of people say, but I love my partner. But that's all in the head. What are your actions? The actions >> Actually, when I met her, that's when I started to paint. She loved that I was an artist and I was creative. So, I started to paint and paint and paint and all my paintings were my love offerings to her. So, it was like saying, I'm giving my energy to >> So, then fine, so everything is fine, no? But it's not fine. >> because at the end she's never satisfied. >> Exactly. >> she's a woman that she's never satisfied with anything. She's always complaining. >> No woman is satisfied. If women were satisfied, men would not create. >> Yeah, sure. Yeah, it's never enough. I mean >> No, of course not. Why should it be? Imagine if she said everything is you wouldn't do anything after that. >> Sure. >> The problem is about giving. You make a decision that you start to become more of a giving being. You are one of those neo advaitin people who are there observing themselves and observing the observer observing himself and all of that stuff which is all old spirituality. Last century. >> Here in Rishikesh in one month I made 13 new artworks. I mean, I'm very productive artist if I give myself to it. What is this giving at the end? It's just No, I'm trying to understand. You said something but they then I want to challenge you but you are not precise in a way. >> challenge me. I mean, why should you not challenge me? >> Okay, then what is this giving? >> I told you, no? First you make a dakshina. You didn't do it yet. So, first you do that. Then after that we'll talk. >> Sure. >> You see what you experience once you have done that. For me, this is a means of teaching you something. I don't need your dakshina. It's a means of teaching you something. Have you made a dakshina since you came? >> No. >> Why not? >> Because I am >> worth a dakshina? Okay, so So, then? >> No, I >> I knew that you haven't made a dakshina because I knew that that's the type of people who go to those satsangs, no? Those famous satsangs that happen in Rishikesh, then they come in and there's always this problem. They haven't learned how They are there very >> No, I will do this >> I mean, you're a you're a you're a beautiful being. Don't make any mistakes about that. I I I that strongly, no question. But why did you not make a dakshina? >> Because >> Why didn't you put 20 rupees in that thing? Why not? >> Because before my heart is your doors, I always was always giving to the guru. >> Ah, funny because all the people who come here say the same thing. All the years, 20, 30 years we've been now we've come here we're not going to give anything. >> I'm being more considerate. I was telling myself I will give dakshina when is the last satsang I'm coming. Same mistake like before is like I thought yes, I received everything from the guru so I will give everything to the guru. >> 10 rupees is everything? >> No. >> That's the point. I'm only trying to show you something. You came to a satsang four times. >> Sure. >> You and I'm not telling all of you to make dakshinas. If you don't want to, that's fully fine. These are free satsangs, nothing is expected of you. But you Why did you not make a dakshina? Why? Okay, I understand I don't want to give everything to the guru. Fair enough. A dakshina doesn't mean everything. >> [gasps] >> Why didn't you do it? What part of you is incapable of of expressing your appreciation? Every day you were here, you came and asked questions and every day I answered these questions and it was flowing. You got something out of it, but you didn't give anything then. No, no, now you have to sit on that chair till I get an answer. Why did you not give the dakshina? >> Because I thought I'm going to do this at the last satsang I'm coming. >> The last satsang? What if what if I die before that? Then? >> [laughter] >> What if I die before that last satsang? Then? After that you can't give a dakshina. Then what happens? Have you thought of that possibility? >> Yes, sure. >> Yeah, I became a bit selfish. >> Really? >> Yes. >> Why? >> Yeah, because I'm afraid, you know, just this stupid attitude of me. >> Afraid of like what? Putting 20 rupees in a dakshina bowl or or 2,000? Let's increase the number let's maybe putting 20,000 rupees in the dakshina bowl, you're afraid of that? Why? It's going to kill you or what? >> Sure. >> You have to question yourself when you take something from life and you don't give something then you don't get anything. >> Yeah, I mean, I know that the answer is not pleasant answer, but I feel like I gave 20 years of myself to this guru student system of my energy and >> Why you sitting here then? If you don't believe in guru vada >> I still love it. >> Ah, I still love to be entertained by the guru vada system, but I've it's not really my system. >> No, it's much deeper. >> That's what you say. >> No, I regard regardless an embodiment and an expression of the most universal thing that I love. No small thing. Now, we are just talking in a kind of easy way, but >> No, no, it's not easy. It's not easy. You have to answer the question. >> The question. >> [laughter] >> So, you are you you are saying that you gave 20 years of your life to guru vada, to the guru shishya system and somehow you've not got anything out of it. >> I did, but you're obliged to an organization. So, it's like, wow, I gave my full trust at the end the trust in God is big thing and you give it to someone which at the end is an organization. I said, why? I don't want to give my energy to an organization again. >> But then you shouldn't go anywhere where such things are. This is also an organization. I mean, look at it. There's like all this and that and that and this and that and that and this is all an organization. So, how are you in a place which you feel is anyway not a system you can relate to? Why are you sitting here? I I I'm not telling you not to sit here. I'm I It's a theoretical question. Why are you in a place which is actually a system which you don't feel is your thing? You know why? Because it is your thing. >> Sure. >> You have never committed to anyone fully, to any system, to anything. Full commitment means full commitment. It doesn't mean little bit here and then judging and then this and that. When there is truth in that motion or movement, unless that guru is some extreme criminal that's telling you to rape somebody or kill somebody, most of the gurus are quite okay. They're quite okay. I mean, there are criminal ones. That's >> Well, yeah. I mean, I was in >> I'm pretty sure you were not with a criminal one. >> No, I was in Tiruvannamalai in 2012. I remember I attended a course. I was the guy who was running after every movement as was saying, "You know, we have to make it." I say, "Yes, I'm here. Here." Hands up. >> And now you grace us with the end result of those failures, is it? It's not a failure. You have learned from all those masters. >> Sure. >> And you should be in that gratitude. If you listen to what you've said here, it's very funny. You've had experiences where you've given a lot to gurus or masters or systems or whatever and finally, it didn't work out for you. You left this system, then you move to the next, then you move to the next. Then you move to Then you come to a place which is clearly a system of Guru Shishya Parampara. First day you were here, you knew that, no? But you still keep on coming. So, you come, you want to be part of the system, but only when it's about taking out of that system. But when it's about giving into that system, for example, I give an example of a dakshina. It could be anything, actually. Then you hold back and you say, "No, no, no, I've had all these experiences." What bad experiences did you have, actually? Some guru took all your money and your passport and sent you back to your home country without food. >> first part, I remember I was sick. I left the ashram because I was not in a good health condition. And then when I wanted to go back, they said, "No, no, no, you're not going to come back." And that hurt me so much because I had given myself completely. That was >> Why did they say you're not coming back? >> I don't know. I couldn't never talk to the guys, then later on someone said, "You know, because you left, and people who end their commitment before the end, they end up on a blacklist." >> But that is the rule of the ashram, then. Of that ashram, the rule is if you leave this place, then you're on a blacklist. If you go to university and you don't complete your course, will you get a degree? >> No, surely not. But that wasn't nice because I said, "Okay, I'm back to Italy." >> That is the rule of that ashram. You're trying to break the rules of a given system. I give you another explanation. There are some people they come and they refuse to sit down where the people tell them to sit. They say, "No, I will not sit here." Then they tell them, "Then you have to leave." Because that's the rule here. Every system has its rules. Every system, even if it is a guru with one disciple and a dog. You know, sometimes you see sadhus, they'll have a young sadhu with them and a dog. That's a system. They have strong rules. You cannot You cannot just come and and and expect them to bend their rules to you. >> But anyway, that's a system. At the At the end I was so heartbroken because I identified the system with God. So, it's like I felt rejected by God. It's a system. It's not God. God has not rejected you. And this is what's very important for me and this is something that stays here forever. No system can take the place of God. >> Absolutely, I agree with you entirely on this point. And I also would like to remind you that the God you speak about is not something outside. It is the divine within you. >> Yeah, it's the one who gave me this life and said, "Okay, you have this life. I'm happy that you are alive and I bless you to be alive and well." This God. So. >> So, the system is there in order to show you the divine within. This system. I don't know about other systems. Here, the system is to show you that the antar guru. You're always thrown back. Thrown back. That is why I said that you have to learn how to give. It is not to give to a system. It is to give to yourself, but not in the way you think. If you If you stand up and ask yourself very quietly, bring quiet into yourself and ask yourself, "Is it the right thing for me to make that dakshina?" If you're done that on the first day, you didn't do it. You went with the ahankar. I'm not saying you would have maybe you got a no. Maybe the truth said no. "Simone, you cannot give a dakshina." Okay, then you go with the truth. But did you ask? Did you consult? No. That is what you learn here. You learn to consult the truth. That's all. Guru system, this one, that one, up, down, it's only the antar guru. >> I didn't even have this question. I thought it's fine that satsang is open and the day I think this is the last satsang I will give a direction. >> Because you base that on your ego and not on a sensing of the situation. >> Yeah, and is exactly >> That's what you are here for to learn. That's why you landed up here. You are saying the last day of the How do you know that you'll even come tomorrow? How do you know that? Did you ask? Did you ask the antar guru, will I be here? What do you base all these ideas on? Some idea, of course, some planning we all have. >> Yeah, but it's about my relationship with the system because I said yesterday I left the ashram. >> But you're taking advantage of a system. By even stepping inside this satsang, you are taking advantage of a system. Yes or no? >> Yes, I would say yesterday >> Is it yes or no? Are you taking advantage of a system? >> Completely. >> In a positive way? >> Yes, sure. >> Yes. You are taking advantage of a place where a guru is sitting and giving a satsang, right? So, by stepping inside here, you are accepting the system. But what you are doing is you're stepping inside, you're taking from the system, but you're not accepting it. You're not accepting it. You're against guru vada and guru shishya parampara. You You don't feel it's the way to go because you've suffered. You've been burnt, right? When you are burnt, you are still here because that is the system in which you have to in this life learn how to function. It's your system. Maybe it's not his system. Maybe he's not meant for Guru vada. He could be sitting here enjoying the satsang and it's a flow. It's all fine. Maybe he's not meant for Guru vada, but you are. You're 56 years old. You're still sitting in front of a Guru. Why? Because it's your system. >> Sure. >> It's like people go to university. They go, they learn, then they will go back and then they have two children, then they again study. There are people who study till the end of their lives. They go to universities. Your system is Guru Shishya Parampara. That's your system. So, wherever you go, you'll always end up trying to learn from this system. Otherwise, why are you here? You know? >> Sure. >> Because it it calls you. You're still You're trying to see did I make a mistake in my life by all that 20 years? Is it really a big mistake? No. There must be somebody or someone that is representative of the truth. You're searching for that and you won't find it if you don't give. in that system. And the first thing you give into a system is to respect it. You cannot come into a system and not respect the system, then you won't get anything, really. Are you Is it starting to make some sense to you? >> I'm trying to see the point. >> 20 years, no? You were with different Gurus. This and that. >> Oh, it's 30 years in general. >> 30 years. 30 years. >> Yes, or 10 years like a student of Guru and I was 1 year and a half in the ashram, 2 years actually. And I was for 10 years like the student of the son of another Guru. And I was 3 years in the ashram. The whole thing went, you know, to the mental institution. Okay? Then I was in a mental institution for 3 years, then I was out of it. I was again a cool guy doing his life. I started to be an an artist and stuff living a normal life. And I found your satsang and I started to listen. I go to sleep listening to your satsang, I wake up listening to your satsang. >> the on the YouTube? >> On the YouTube, yes, sure. And I will keep doing it until I'm satisfied because I'm sure I'm very hungry of this in this life. >> Why do you want to do all these satsangs and listen to all these gurus? >> Hm? >> Why do you want to do all this? Why you listening to all these gurus? For what? Are you listening also to self-help teachers? >> No. >> Why only gurus? >> Because that's my thing. >> That's your thing, exactly. First step is to say it's a it's an amazing system. Not to say I gave all my uh life to gurus and that's why that's why I came to your satsang and I didn't give a dakshina. It's the most ancient system of transmission on the planet. Guru shishya parampara, it's it's amazing. It has it has possibilities that most other systems don't have. >> Sure. >> Right? Step one. For now we made first step without even a dakshina. You understood something about yourself. >> Yes. >> Oh, you already knew that also, okay. >> It's but that was also your choice. I mean, in very simple terms, you in your you came here. We were allowed to enter and to sit and ask questions. So, I'm not doing something that is not allowed. >> I didn't say that you're doing something not allowed. I said that if you come into a system and you don't want systems, then there's a confusion and a contradiction in your thinking. To say that uh I don't want all the systems, I want the wisdom but not the systems. Do you know what a system is? It I'll tell you what a system is around a guru. You see that lady sitting there? 18-hour working days, year after year after year after year. You see him there? You see him there? These are all people that tough, physically tough people who from morning to night are running a machinery so that people who are in trouble, like that man who was here with the Kundalini, with the pain, with a ball in his thing, or people like even yourself or others who have real existential questions can get their questions answered. That is the system. So, to to be here, it is important to respect the system. Because it is the system that is allowing you to actually reach the truth of your own being. It's very important to respect that. Have you Have you actually looked at her? Have you Have you Look at her. Have you looked at her and seen what she's doing? Have you noticed? Because you've been in satsangs where people don't notice anything. I'm saying get down to this reality here and notice what's around you. Have you thought for a moment he's standing there every day for 2 hours? Plus from early morning to late night, that's what he's doing. >> Sure, and definitely >> No, have you Have you No, 1 minute. 1 minute. Don't say sure. Tell me. After you've come here, did you once think that these are people These are human beings. They're not robots. And that they are hard work What all they must be doing so that those YouTube videos are on, so that people like that guy with a Kundalini problems get answers answers, get quiet. People like you can listen to those Did you think about that? Don't say sure. Tell me. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. Because you have to become present now. >> No, I didn't. Um I've seen this in G Ashram and G Ashram, so I know. I know there are beings who devote themselves to seva is their life. I know for sure it's not my choice. I won't do that again. Not because I blame the system. >> Nobody's asking you to do that. It was because you said that all those systems, they were not for you. That the system took you away from yourself or took you away from God or you confused God with the system. And what I'm trying to tell you is that the system makes it possible for you to connect with the divine within. That's what I'm saying. And therefore it deserves your respect. Not that you have to join the system because say in our this framework, it takes years for a person to even get seva. Did you hear what I said? I said it takes years. People are applying since 5 years and 10 years to get the chance to do the seva. We don't give them that chance because we do not want people who don't respect deeply the system. You are not like a lot of people sitting or you have 30 years of of seva of guru seva behind you and you still haven't understood that you have to respect the system. You have to respect it. Otherwise you can't get that final answer. You won't reach the truth. First you have to respect. If I don't respect the university, how can I get a degree? The university will always stand in the way then I won't follow the rules. I will not listen to the professors. I won't write the exams. All of that I won't get my degree. And your degree in spirituality is to reach There's only one thing, self-realization, reaching the self. Your point is the self, self-realization. And this system is making it possible. The system is not the self. The system makes the realization possible. So don't confuse the two. Again. You are a you are shishya material. Otherwise you won't be sitting here or you wouldn't have been with other gurus. But things don't go according to how you want in Guru Shishya. It's not a psychologist who has certain rules of behavior. Uh it's not psychology. Guru will squeeze you and turn you around and throw you in the air and catch you again and all of that must have already happened to you. No? Just flow with it and understand that your your way and your path is through the Guru Shishya framework. Not this one I'm saying, anyone, but that's your thing. Accept it quietly first and then start to come to yourself and be steady in yourself. And it's better for somebody like you not to do guru tourism. You'll just get confused. If you go to Neo Advaita gurus, they'll tell you one thing, you come here, I'll tell you another thing. Somebody else will tell you a third thing. I say the exact opposite of what the Advaita gurus say, the Neo Advaitans. >> Yeah, in that some aspects. >> Don't do guru tourism is what I'm telling you. >> Mhm. >> It's not good for you. >> Mhm. >> Decide on something and flow with it. You keep on going here and there, it'll confuse you more and more and more. Different for her, she's not your age. She's she can still choose and go and do the check out 100 gurus, it's fully okay. But at your age, there's one point you have to take one path and stay with it, whatever it is. It will be better for you. Take one path, whatever is appealing to you, whatever it is, take one and stay with it. That is the way, next step for you. Otherwise, you'll be more and more confused and more and more pinched. I said no, pinched in the beginning. Today when you satsang is over now, today when you go home, you you just be a little quiet. Try to figure out, you know, what is your what is speaking to you really deep down. Of all the gurus you know and what you're watching on YouTube and whoever is speaking to the deepest, stay with that person and just stay. Guru vada has rules. It's not a rule-less story and one of the rules is in this framework, for example, I say after the age of 36, fix on one guru unless it's a criminal and rapist or something, fix on one guru and go the path. It's a risky business. You cannot have spiritual realization without taking risks. And you have taken risks. Give time, find out and decide on one guru and stay with it. See, maybe he's not somebody meant for guru vada. Understand, maybe he's somebody who just comes here, listens to the satsang and goes, but you have been in in guru vada since 30 years. A large part of your life. It's your thing. Now look for a guru and stay. Guru vada means you find a guru at one point and stay with that guru and go deep into everything. You know? Whoever speaks to you culturally maybe, you know, there are different masters in the world. Maybe somebody in your village, in your town in Italy. Italy has amazing gurus. There are lots of very powerful and amazing spiritual masters coming out of Italy. I even know of a few of them. Some have even come to my satsangs. Really loving and powerful beings, you know, who can really guide you. So, you have to decide on one person. That tourism It's not a supermarket. Have faith in yourself that you will know who is the right one for you. And stick. Stick with guru. I mean You know, it's also fun to have a guru. It's not just a big heavy thing. I mean, my shishas we have been laughing all the time from morning to night. In fact, just a few days ago I was telling them we are laughing too much. We have to be more serious. Be more like guru and shisha. We have fun. You also probably had fun with your gurus, right? But we have lots of fun. I don't think spirituality is all this serious stuff. It's not. It's It's joy. An abundance of joy. Do they look serious Does she look like some serious floaty creature? Does she look floaty? Does he look floaty? Look at them. They're all very present. They're here. So, I'm a little tough with you. But it is done out of love. It is not done out of wanting to put you down. You understand? >> Sure. >> Yes. I think that that will save you if you just decide on one guru and just go with it. You know. Whoever it is, it doesn't finally doesn't really matter that much. The point is not who is the guru. The point is how am I as a shisha? The bell has rung. So. >> We invite you to be in the presence of Maharishika. The 6-day Guru Purnima immersive will take place in Goa in July, and the 6-day Presence immersive will take place in Zurich in August. For more information, click on the links in the description box below.