Lisa Bilyeu on Getting Radical Confidence & Finding Strength Through Adversity (BOOK LAUNCH SPECIAL)
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Lisa Bilyeu, author of *Radical Confidence*, joins her husband and business partner to discuss how she transformed from a stay-at-home wife feeling trapped in eight years of mediocrity into an entrepreneur leading Quest Nutrition with 40 employees. The couple recounts their early days when they decided to finance their own film projects but fell into a pattern where Lisa managed the household while David handled business, believing it was for the "greater good" of their marriage and dream. This arrangement led to what Bilyeu describes as "purgatory," a state of numbness where she suppressed her unhappiness by overusing gratitude, convincing herself that being grateful meant accepting an unfulfilling life rather than addressing the root causes of her misery. The turning point arrived when David realized his partner's suffering was damaging their relationship and urged him to change course, prompting Bilyeu to finally step out of her comfort zone despite years of hesitation. Central to the book is the concept that radical confidence does not mean ignoring fear but rather having a concrete plan and toolkit to act anyway. Bilyeu emphasizes that one cannot simply be told to "be afraid and do it anyway"; instead, individuals must identify specific tools to overcome paralysis, such as practicing skills repeatedly or using self-signaling techniques like wearing special clothing. She introduces the metaphor of her "bad [__] boots" and Wonder Woman necklace not as signs of arrogance but as armor that helps shift her mindset from an ordinary woman struggling with anxiety to a superhero ready for battle. This process involves creating an alter ego, similar to Beyoncé's Sasha Fierce, which allows one to separate their shy self from the confident persona needed to tackle daunting tasks like public speaking or launching a business while feeling terrified. The discussion also addresses how to find and sustain a personal mission when facing inevitable struggles. Bilyeu explains that she discovered her true purpose was not filmmaking but helping people through protein bars, which allowed her to pivot from saving their house to serving a community battling eating disorders and mental health issues. She argues that while success is never guaranteed, the struggle is often necessary for growth, and one must be willing to experiment with different paths until finding what pulls at their heartstrings. A key takeaway involves separating self-worth from external validation; Bilyeu shares her chapter "Validation Is For Parking," asserting that she can feel proud of a book's creation regardless of its sales figures because the value lies in the effort and truth poured into it, not just the outcome. Finally, the episode touches on balancing compassion with toughness to achieve significant goals. While acknowledging the need for softness and empathy, Bilyeu insists that pursuing big dreams requires getting off one's ass and working hard without letting sensitivity derail progress when necessary. She clarifies that her advice is personal and not an admonishment of others who may choose different paths or prioritize relationships differently than she does in a business context. The conversation concludes with testimonials from listeners whose lives have been transformed by these principles, ranging from starting businesses to overcoming trauma, reinforcing the idea that failure is merely a learning tool on the journey toward becoming the hero of one's own life.
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I wear this Wonder Woman necklace.
And I wear this Wonder Woman necklace on
purpose. Now, we talk very much about
leaning into the thing that we want.
Nothing happens by accident, right? We
cultivate meaning to certain things, and
they can be either extremely beautiful,
or it can actually be detrimental to us.
So, how do we actually do it on purpose?
So, I took my Wonder Woman necklace, and
over time I would see in the mirror, and
I was like, yes, I'm Wonder Woman.
You're the superhero of your own life,
Lisa. And I repeat that. And repetition
becomes habit. So, I see my necklace, I
repeat what it means to me. I do that
enough, it now actually starts to mean
something to me. And so, what I did
before I got on stage is I suit up. Like
Wonder Woman does with her cape, like
she does with her cuffs, I put my on my
big watch, I got my necklace on, I do my
hair, and it becomes this stepping stone
of I repeat to myself, you're Wonder
Woman, you got this.
Lisa Bilyeu, welcome to the show. Wait,
you called me Lisa Bilyeu? But you are
author, Lisa Bilyeu, and I feel very
confident in saying soon-to-be
best-selling author. The book is
amazing. I told you that privately, but
I was very impressed. This really is so
radical confidence, it really is the
book one of us had to write a book about
the impact of your mindset. And when you
started, I didn't know if that's what it
was going to become, but it really
became a powerful instruction manual for
how to move through life well. Uh so,
I'm very impressed. I want to start at
the end of your book so that people can
understand what radical confidence is,
and then we'll dive in. This really hit
me, this is very powerful.
So, this is the literal last chapter of
the book. With radical, or sorry, the
last paragraph. With radical confidence,
you can try new things despite the
embarrassment, shame, fear, guilt, or
any other emotion that may be paralyzing
you. With radical confidence, you can go
balls to the wall and risk falling on
your face and you can do it knowing that
even if you do break a cheekbone, you
can get back up. With radical
confidence, you don't have to fear
failing or fear whether you're the only
woman or the only one with no experience
or the only one who [ __ ] themselves in a
bathroom stall at the Beverly Wilshire
Hotel. Because homie, with radical
confidence, you can zip up your bad
[ __ ] boots, remember who the [ __ ] you
are and be the hero of your own damn
life.
Now, I know that it is a long road
between who you were even when you and I
first met, but even before that to
writing this book.
But for somebody that wants to walk in
your shoes, what's the first step to
being afraid and doing it anyway?
Woo. What is that first step?
Having a plan.
Because
I don't want it to feel just
motivational, right? Like, oh, you know,
be afraid and do it anyway. When you're
afraid and you have to do something that
scares a life out of you, like step in
front of the camera or start a business
or be a leader when you don't know how
to lead at all, all of that is really
scary and just telling someone to do it
anyway, it isn't enough. So, to me, you
need an actual plan.
a plan or a toolkit?
So, you need a plan with the tools that
you're going to use. So, for instance,
let's say you want to step in front of
the camera. The plan is, okay, I want to
start a YouTube channel.
So, I'm going to shoot five videos in a
row without releasing it just to watch
myself. Okay, what skill set am I going
to build
on that? And that becomes what tools do
I use to build those skill sets so that
I can do five videos. So, for instance,
the tool, let's say if it's just
stepping in front of the camera, it is
how on earth can you stare at a camera
and talk for 30 minutes? Like, practice
that skill. And so, what's that tool set
that you're going to use if you can't
even bring yourself to step in front of
the camera?
Do you look at your clothes? What music
do you play before you step in front of
the camera? These are all tools to get
you to actually step in front of the
camera in the first place.
Now what's interesting to me and because
I know your story intimately but also
you go into great detail in the book is
for you it wasn't a plan.
And you struggled mightily in the
beginning.
And so I want to go back to when we were
starting Quest. So give people a
thumbnail sketch of basically what
happened. So you were a huge dreamer as
a kid. You had big dreams when you and I
met.
And then something went horribly wrong
after marrying your husband. Um
what happened?
So actually what happened was we had
said we want to make movies and we'd
both dabbled in um trying to work in
film industry and we both hated it. So
our conclusion was if we wanted to make
our own content, we needed to finance it
ourselves. So we decided that we were
going to go on that path and you were
going to go to work every single day and
I was going to what we called the Steve
Jobs effect where I was going to make
all other decisions outside of business.
I was going to make you were going to
handle business. You were going to try
and make enough money. I was going to be
president of Bill You Enterprises.
you CEO of Bill You Enterprises?
Um
and so that would felt good. And so I
was like I'm going to do this for a
year, me and you baby.
did it as well. Like you didn't just
sort of ho-hum your way through it. You
took it really seriously.
Reading the book though was devastating
for me. Like it I wept openly the first
time I read it. Other people won't react
that way cuz it's not their wife. But
for me reading what a dark period that
was for you, like it really was
wasn't the death of a dream because you
never
gave up fully but it was sort of that
dark night of the soul where you have no
idea how you're getting back
to the dream.
When did it go from I'm CEO of
Billionaire Enterprises and this feels
good to oh my god how wrong have I let
this go? Babe, this is the thing that
freaking haunts me. I can't It's not one
day. It becomes that slow stepping stone
pattern that you just keep repeating. I
kept saying to myself, it's only going
to be 3 year. It's only 12 to 18 months,
right? The the famous story. Just 12 to
18 months tending to over 8 years.
And that's the problem is that it
becomes this slow knock-on effect. And
it's like, I can do this and you have
the right mindset and you have the right
framing and you're like, I'm doing it
for the good of us as a couple, of our
marriage. We want to make movies
together. So, you can freaking convince
yourself. You can convince yourself of
why you're doing something every single
day. And that's the problem. Before I
knew it, I was deep 8 years into it and
I was like, what the hell happened?
But the truth is it never freaking
happens overnight. It becomes one little
decision that you make time and time
again in the wrong direction that you
end up going, how the hell did I get
here?
Um and so for me, it wasn't that I was
hiding it from you. It wasn't that I was
just like at the beginning. It wasn't
like I'm a god I've got to [ __ ] suck
it up and this is miserable. It really
did feel like I am doing it for the
greater good and every day you keep
telling yourself that until you almost
become
numb to how you're actually feeling is
what I refer to in the book as purgatory
the mundane where my my life was just
mundane. And every time I started to
question, what the [ __ ] am I doing with
my life? What happened to the movies
that we said we were going to make? I
would soothe myself. And the soothing
would be to remind myself that um it's
for the greater good that I made a
promise to you that um I'm taking care
of you. I'm a good housewife. Like that
was the belief that I was given as, you
know, as a child that I'll be a good
Greek housewife.
So, you just convince yourself every
day. And when I started to um question
it,
the ungratefulness would come up. Well,
how ungrateful am I? I've got a husband
that loves me. Babe,
you I know how lucky I am to have you
who loves me as much as you do.
And I'm so freaking grateful for that.
And for me to look around and be like,
I'm miserable. Like, I would tell myself
how ungrateful. You You're living in
America. You always wanted to live
there. You're married to literally the
man of your dreams. I didn't have to
work. Right? We had a nice little
apartment. You were going out on work
and you were paying the bills. I didn't
have to work. And so, every day I was
telling myself, I'm so freaking
ungrateful for me to rattle the cage.
And this is a thing that is really um
haunting me. That we talk about a lot of
gratitude, right? In the space that
we're in and motivation. It's like, we
need to be grateful for what we have.
Making sure that we're using um we're
thinking about things in a positive
perspective. So, every time you may feel
bad about your life, it's like, no, look
at gratitude. I get it. The problem is,
it kept me there. Because I kept using
gratitude as a thing to go to every time
I felt sad or numb or like, what has
happened to my life, it filled the hole.
And that
Wow. And that's how you blink and in
eight years, you just go, I didn't
I'm not even living the life I want
anymore.
All right, my friend, I have a big
announcement. My incredible and talented
wife, Lisa, is about to launch her new
book, Radical Confidence. In it, she has
managed to perfectly capture the process
of how to go from feeling lost and
insecure to taking control of your life
and doing amazing things despite feeling
fear, sometimes a lot of fear. Now, let
me tell you, nobody knows Lisa better
than me. But when I read Radical
Confidence for the first time and heard
her describe what it was like for her to
go from having these big, exciting
dreams as a kid to then as an adult
scheduling her life around the TV shows
that she wanted to watch or how lonely
and isolated she felt instead of
pursuing her dreams. It was brutal for
me. I would never say though that it was
worth it for her to go through all of
that just so that she could write
something down that allows others to
avoid it, but I will say that at least
she was able to capture the strategies
that she used to break out of that rut,
find her voice, and begin doing
incredible things despite her
insecurities and fears that she wasn't
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Then, once you've done that, we'll get
back to today's episode. All right,
guys. Read the book and get ready to be
the hero of your own life. Peace out.
That's really interesting. I've actually
I totally get that, but I've never heard
anybody say that gratitude ended up sort
of bamboozling them into living a life
that was less than they could live.
What do you think about that now? What's
your relationship to gratitude? Are you
cautious of using it because it
gratitude is certainly a
I have an interesting relationship to it
as well. It's really powerful, and it's
something that can help you like
remember to focus on the right things,
but it can, like you said, it can be a
salve that maybe keeps you somewhere
less than where you could be. How do you
think about it now? I think that you
should be grateful for things, and when
you are and you identify them, they're
beautiful. But it doesn't negate all the
things that are miserable in your life
and that you're unhappy with. And so for
me, if I'm actually unhappy with
something in my life, I just address
what am I going to do about it, right?
So being ungrateful is like
I can't believe, you know, like all this
[ __ ] keeps happening to me, and then
going, "Oh, hang on a minute. Look at
the amazing things." That really helps
me pivot from a negative mindset to a
positive one.
But when I look at certain things, when
we deal with business and goals and
actually achieving something, I look at
it and say, "Well, can I change
something here? Is this in my control?"
And I never asked myself that in
back when I was a stay-at-home wife. I
never asked myself, "Well, hang on a
minute. Just because you're absolutely
head over heels in love with your
husband and you're very grateful for
having such a wonderful life with him.
I'm freaking miserable over here and I
absolutely have every right to highlight
and say, "Hey, this doesn't feel right.
This isn't a fulfilling life for me and
it doesn't negate how grateful I am as
to have you in my life as my husband,
but I want more over here and I can do
something about it." I never told myself
I could do something about it or gave
myself the space to allow myself to then
make a change.
The big thing in reading the book for me
was So, I know how I interpret what you
went through. I know my half of the
equation. I remember coming home and
saying to you, "Don't ask me about my
day."
I was so profoundly unhappy
and was just really trying to make
something magical happen for us and of
course anybody that knows us sort of
post success doesn't understand where we
started.
Did not have money, broke, clipping
coupons, like the whole nine and
the success ends up coming way later. I
mean, we were married for 13, 14 years
before we really had any
like a real appreciable success.
And
obviously I know what it was like to be
on my side but not yours.
One of the times that I've been most
emotionally distraught in my life was
before you stepped in front of the
camera. I said, "No one's going to ever
understand" like I started getting
accolades. I'm like, "No one is ever
going to understand
how much you have contributed to my
success."
And now that you stepped in front of the
camera, I don't worry about that
anymore, but I really did at one point.
And what I want to know is
you started the chain reaction that
ended up leading to the big change that
ends up becoming Quest, where
I'd come home so many times and said,
"Don't ask me about my day." that you
finally said, "Your unhappiness is now
starting to damage the marriage. You
need to make a change."
And that
snapped me out of because I had been
telling you
12 to 18 months for years that like 6
and 1/2 years by the time you laid that
down.
And how did you get that courage? Was it
because you were doing it for my
happiness? Because in the beginning you
weren't self-protective. You've become
self-protective.
Mhm. Did you leverage me as a way to
get to that like you wouldn't be able to
do it for yourself because I think a lot
of people are stuck there. Like if
they're they feel selfish doing it for
themselves. They feel ungrateful doing
it for themselves. But you found that
little thing that you could peel away,
which was he's unhappy. Mhm. Yeah, it's
interesting in looking back because the
truth is is that yes, 100% for years and
years and years it was
we're doing it for the dream, and then
that dream ended up turning into I
started seeing you loving business and
getting stronger and more confident and
you working on your mindset. So I saw
the progression being a positive effect
on you. But then that that positive
effect ended up being um destructive.
And so you were coming home hating your
work, hating your life. And it got to
the point like I can I could coach
myself through it. I can
I find pride, and you know this, in
being the freaking strong badass behind
you. I don't I'm not like I don't see
that as a negative. I love being your
support system and you being out there
and me being like your cheerleader and
like hell yeah.
And I always have. And so A, when you
first started, I was like, "This is, you
know, I'm your cheerleader. We're going
to do this together, but you know, we're
doing it for a cause
and it makes you happy and then that
makes me happy."
But over time, I started to realize it
was no longer bringing you happiness and
we were no longer working towards our
goal.
But you kept saying, "Babe, this is
important. I really want this." And the
one thing I always said is I know I
married an ambitious man.
And
I remember seeing people divorce as I
got older
and I always thought like
who's changing their pitch up halfway
through the marriage? And look, I
changed my pitch up in our marriage, um
which we can talk about, but I was like,
"I know who you are. You're so
ambitious. You've told me your dreams.
You've told me your life goals. And so
just because I've got a ring on my
finger does not mean that all of a
sudden now you need to be home at 6:00
p.m. and you know, living the life that
I want." We were in this together. It
was a partnership and I always saw it as
a partnership until it got to the point
where it no longer felt like a
partnership. I never no longer felt like
my supporting you was actually doing you
any good. You were still freaking
miserable.
And then the final piece that I swore I
would
This is where it's interesting. This is
where I'll put myself first.
Don't mess with my relationship with my
husband.
Whether it's my husband messing with it
or somebody else.
Yeah. And that almost became that fine
that that line. And I said
"I will support you, but you have now
crossed the line where you're messing
with my relationship and the thing that
I pride the most is me and you. Money
can come and go. Anything like there's
no prediction of the world.
But my relationship with you is by far
the most important thing. And when I saw
that it was now being messed with and it
was becoming dangerous and now me and
you were pulling apart and I could start
to feel like I don't If we don't do
something now, are we going to get to
the point where there's no coming back?"
And I had let my life do that, right?
With the 8 years of just going with the
motion, I won't do that with my
marriage. And so I think that that's
where it came from, the last straw where
I was like, if something doesn't change,
me and you are in trouble.
And that I pride myself on, that's my
responsibility as well as yours.
I need to fix your hair.
And then
Oh, so sweet.
I tried to pause to make sure we could
Oh, so
sweet. I love that. All right, of
course. So, now for me, what gets really
interesting is So, in there's like a
fumbly bit in there where neither of us
really know how to make good on this.
We're planning to move to Greece. We're
going to do what we love and what fills
us up. We get obsessed with this idea
that the struggle is guaranteed, but the
success is not. So, like what would we
The funny thing is, it's all the things
that we talk about now, but we had to
suffer for us to put these pieces into
place. But the whole idea of what would
you do and love every day even if you
were failing?
And so, we were going to move to Greece
and I was going to write. And but my
question is, so
you have this dream of, okay, we want to
become filmmakers,
but you end up going on an
entrepreneurial journey. And how did you
begin to piece together all the tools
that you outlined in the book? Like, how
did you begin to bring those together?
Did it Did you Do you feel like you
already had a growth mindset? And so, as
you got drawn into the business, that it
was like, oh, I know what to do here. Or
were you stumbling one foot in front of
the other? Stumbling one foot in front
of the other.
Um and it's actually really important
because this is something that I want to
credit you for. So, anyone watching
right now, if they've got a partner,
like if you've got a growth mindset and
maybe your partner doesn't or isn't
there yet, the one thing that was
amazing with me is you were just the
proof The proof was in the pudding. You
were reading all this stuff. You were
looking into mindset stuff and I saw you
change and I saw you grow and I saw you
being someone who was a little sensitive
sometimes and would maybe get annoyed
with me over little things.
And complain. I didn't want to say it,
but yes, you were a bit of a complainer.
People do not understand where you and I
started. So, okay, can I be honest then?
Okay, so you were a bit of a whiner. You
would complain about things and you were
a bit sensitive and
like I remember once I whispered in your
ear something sexy as we're playing a
game and because you you missed it,
which was obviously my strategy cuz I
wanted to win the game, you then got
annoyed with me. Um So, for the record,
my wife whispered something
extraordinarily sexy in my ear so I
would miss a shot at pool, which I then
missed, and I got angry. Yes. That's
ridiculous. But given context to who you
were is so important. So, because people
don't know that side of you. So, I saw
that The former side of you. The former
side of you.
Um and I saw the change and I saw the
growth. And so, you weren't forcing me,
you weren't putting it upon me and so
that's just a big tip is like if anyone
wants to help their partner, be a
beautiful example of how it's changing
your life. And then you would make these
little suggestions to me that didn't
feel pressure. It's like, "Oh, babe, I
actually think you'll really like this
book. Oh, no, you'll hate that." So, it
wasn't like you were throwing things at
me. So, I think slowly I started to gain
a bit of a growth mindset, but I never
had words to it. And so, actually
this takes me to
a year ago.
Bear with me. I This will I'll bring it
all together. A year ago
you came to me, COVID, you got a call
from a literary agent. And they asked
you, "Hey, would Lisa be interested in
writing a book?"
And you came to me and you came into my
room office and you're like, "Babe, can
you believe someone's just said, 'Would
you like to write a book?'" And I was
like, do you remember what I said? Yes,
of course. I was like, "Oh, that's
nice."
You said something far more terrifying
than that. But then you're like, "What
the hell is wrong with you? Like, did
you just hear what I said? And I said,
who would buy a book from me?
Now, the reason why
That was a year ago.
a year ago. Just so people don't think
that that voice goes away.
Right. So, I ate the negative voice, and
in that moment, because I'd done so much
work on myself, I was like,
aw, bless her. She's still there. Like,
I didn't beat myself up over it.
But, the thing that was the fear was, I
was like, I don't know what I would
write about. I'm not an expert in
anything. Like, literally, that was what
I was like, babe, I don't have anything
to teach. Like, I kind of just do my own
thing. I get in front of the camera and
I
say what I think, and that's it.
From my perspective, that's hilarious,
but I get how people can be blind to
their own
skills. And yes, maybe. So, but I was
completely insecure. And so,
in writing the book, I realized all the
things and tools that I used. So, going
back to your question of was I
stumbling, it took me
to have to write the BOOK TO GO,
OH! Because I'm literally just trying to
stumble. You You fall on your face, how
the hell do you get up? You have 40
employees, with some of them that are
ex-convicts, they're 6'5, and here's me,
little British girl, that's trying to
command a room. I don't freaking know
what I'm doing. So, I'm just figuring it
out. So, I'm like, oh, okay.
Um well, just shouting at them doesn't
work. No one can respect me. I tried
that, didn't work. Um I freaking love
hip-hop. I love Tupac is like my
favorite rapper. And these guys were
just talking about Tupac. What if I just
played the song on the system, and then
like have a like a whole like
competition, and like give free Quest
bars away to the team on who can pack
quicker. So, I walk into our Quest
facility, not knowing what I was doing,
I blast the music, and I remember you
guys are all just like, "Daisy, we can
hear the music from next door." But I
was like, I don't care. And so, I blast
the music, and I'm like, "All right, who
wants to win a box of Quest bars? Who
can pack faster? Let's go. And then by
the end of it I'm like, that was a great
motivational way of like getting
everyone motivated and getting everyone
excited. But I just freaking figured it
out because I tried other things. I
thought, okay, well if I'm all official
like the you know, the business books
say like maybe I'll do that and nothing
worked. So I just figured it out. And so
when I started to write the book and
write each chapter, I was like, these
are the tools. There are 10 things of
ways that of the things that were
getting in my freaking way that would
stop me from living the life I wanted.
And these 10 things are exactly what
took me from being a home supporting you
day in day out and my life's mission was
do you have clothes when you wake up you
have lunch when you go to work and when
you come home do you have dinner on the
table? That was where I started. And
then literally in, you know, this time
that we've had together,
I figured things out but not
traditionally. And that was the key
because I'm like, I just have to say
what's real. The messiness of thinking
about how you know, the the negative
voice in my head that's always mean to
me. It's just a messy situation of how
on earth do you stop her from being so
cruel so that you can take those steps
forward. And I just tried a bunch of
[ __ ] and saw what stuck. And the thing
that stuck is what I wrote in the book
and just like, this is how you explore
it as well. It's not just this is what I
did and that's exactly what you should
do. It's the hey, meditation didn't work
for me.
But lifting in the gym did. So what is
that version of meditation for you? So
I've taken things and I've said, this is
how you think about it and this is how
you move forward to live the life you
want.
How do people get the courage to dream
their real dream?
Ooh.
How do you get the courage?
Yeah, so when you're starting out and so
one of the things that I love about the
book is So, for people that don't know
the thumbnail sketch of the the
biography is so you train as a filmmaker
and you end up generating wealth as a
protein bar manufacturer. Like the gap
between those is pretty bizarre.
And you you ran shipping. Like if they
could see what you did in terms of being
in a hairnet all day, working around
forklifts. You had a bunch of
ex-convicts as employees. Things you
detail in the book, but it's
it was it's just dramatically removed
from what they know you as now or where
you started, what you trained as, how
you grew up. I mean, it's just as far
away from that as possible. So, you get
dragged into it slowly, right? So, it
starts with hey, we're going to make
protein bars nights and weekends. Help
us manufacture in this kitchen that we
rented by the hour. So, you would weigh
ingredients and you would come and help
make the bars. Then it was hey, we need
somebody to ship these, but it's like
one a day. You start doing that. And
then it's hey, we can't even do this out
of our house anymore. You're going to
have to do it out of my partner's
garage. And then it was like we can't do
it in the garage anymore. We have to get
a facility. And then it was like you're
not going to be able to be by yourself
anymore. We need racks and forklifts and
employees. And all of a sudden, what a
year or two years later, you've got 40
40 employees. You've never had an
employee before ever in your life. You
have 40 employees. We're doing By the
time you left shipping, we were doing 80
million in revenue. So, I mean, it was
like
like this monstrous machine.
And
you never got overwhelmed.
I'm sure you were tempted. I'm sure
there were times where I mean, I know
you go to it in the book where you were
just in over your head. You've no idea
what you're doing.
But you kept solving problems. And you
call that out in the book and this is I
mean, for me this is like the life
stance.
Figure out how to solve problems.
If you can figure out how to solve
problems, then you can dream your dream.
But how did you get yourself in the
mindset of solving problems? That for me
when I started noticing how you approach
the world, I was like, "Oh, shit." Like
some switch flipped in your head at some
point and you stopped, and this of
course is a chapter.
Um oh, the chapter title is no one's
coming to save you, basically. There's a
a better title than that, but that's the
idea. You have to save yourself. When
did that click for you?
So, there's a lot of questions in there.
So, first of all, I want to go to
the
the reason one of the biggest things of
why I wrote this book was really the
thinking of the people that are stuck in
purgatory of the mundane, where every
day and they don't realize, like me,
what if Quest hadn't come? Babe, I live
in utter fear that if Quest hadn't given
me that reason to step out of my comfort
zone, to step out of what I was already
doing,
and put me in uncomfortable situations
every single freaking day, that then
taught me, "Oh my god,
I'm actually pretty good at this. Like,
I'm actually I'm actually not doing it
so that other people give me accolades.
I actually can feel good about it
myself."
Quest was that thing for me.
It was the thing that forced me into
seeing that. But, what if that didn't
happen? And that's what I'm trying to
get with this book. So,
how did I break it? It was literally
every day. So, first of all, you come
home, my wonderful hubby, he's like,
"All right, babe,
we're going to do start protein bar
company and our house is up for
collateral." And that was the big That
was the first thing. Oh, crap. It's do
or die.
It's do or die. We lose our house or,
you know,
We make it work.
Yeah, we make it work. And in that
moment, I had the mindset of I was a
good Greek housewife that doesn't let my
husband down. And I go all in on stuff,
whether it's good or not. And so, I went
all in on basically I I felt good about
feeling needed. So, So, you turn to me
and you're like, "Babe, I really need
your help to help [ __ ] balls off the
living room floor to help make I felt
good about it because I was helping you.
And over time, I started to realize what
I was made of. I started to realize the
skill sets that I was learning. I
started to realize what kind of effect
that had. So, it all started with being
uncomfortable, just doing it to be make
you proud to save our house. And that
started to evolve. And that evolution
became instead of doing it save my
house, it became a mission for me. And
it became
I mean
I grew up with a mom who was op- you
know, anorexic or borderline anorexic.
And when I had that
Britney Bergandry send us an email where
she had been in the hospital, she was 40
lb.
She was 40 lb.
That's terrifying. And she was on her
deathbed.
And she managed to get to get herself
back to somewhat healthy. And she said,
"Quest bars made me okay with calories
again.
And thank you for building a community
that can accept me."
This is one of many, many things letters
that we got.
And I started to realize all these
things that I was doing, like figuring
out how to motivate my team so we get
get orders out on time, figuring out how
to do shipping to um Dubai for Justin
Bieber
figuring out how the hell I build um
racks to put put protein balls on, how I
do first in first out. I had no idea no
idea what I was doing.
But as I started to learn I started to
go
well, would you rather be stuck here and
not figure this out or would you rather
be uncomfortable, figure it out, and
help the anorexic community? Would you
rather go, "Well, I don't know." because
now I've hit a brick wall and I'm
feeling uncomfortable because my skill
sets have taken me as far as I'm going
to go. And do I throw my hands up?
And if I did, that's okay.
But could I live with that idea that I
would rather be comfortable than help
the anorexic community? I'd rather be
comfortable than have the help the
diabetic community. I'd rather be
comfortable than help the obese
community. And that just wasn't okay
with me. And every time that I felt like
I was hitting a big brick wall, I
started to realize, "My god, this is a
mission. I have a purpose. This is
actually bigger than me."
And that was so thrilling and opened up
a world to me I never thought existed.
In the book you call that making your
mission possible.
Little play there. Like your style.
Um but
did you
start putting pieces together? Was it a
conscious choice that, "Okay, I'm going
to let this mean something to me?" Like
how for people that are listening to
this that don't have a mission, how do
they get one?
Well, we know that you can't find your
mission, right, baby? Agreed.
Um But why can't you find your mission?
Because it's not just like under a a
cushion. It's like you have to try new
things.
Um I mean, you have to experiment. I
never would have thought I mean, to your
point earlier is part of your question.
You were like, "People you you're
talking about making movies and all of a
sudden you're talking about protein bar
and that started this life journey for
you." And it's just like I never would
have thought it. And what I started to
realize was what was really impacting me
even as a kid was that I was doing
something that was affecting people and
that I had an ability to affect people.
And so, when I say that, filmmaking is
beautiful. You can use sound and visuals
and editing and all of that to make
someone cry, to make someone laugh, to
make someone laugh with tears. Like you
literally have that ability just with
content. And so, what I started to
realize is having an impact on people
and actually giving someone a feeling
was what I was looking for. And I
freaking love that. And so, as I started
to assess what I was doing and the
filmmaking part of it, I was like,
"Actually, that isn't the thing that was
pulling my heart. The thing that's
pulling my heart is helping people." And
I think I got there because I ended up
stumbling into it. So, I think anyone
that maybe doesn't have a mission, you
just got to try stuff because even think
like the book I never Literally, when
you came to me about writing the book, I
didn't know I was like, "I've never even
dreamed about being an author." Like
that hasn't It wasn't on my bucket list.
So, I was like, "Well, do I really want
to write a book?" And it's like, "Try
it. You never know." And now I'm like,
"I freaking LOVED WRITING A BOOK." BUT I
NEVER would have known if I hadn't tried
it. So, I think if people don't know
what is pulling at their heartstrings,
you have to try a bunch of things and
then assess what is the thing that's
going to literally pull you out of bed
in the morning when you're feeling
tired, when you're facing your
inadequacies, when you're falling on
your face and you don't know what you're
doing, and you're getting people saying,
"I told you so." What is that thing that
is going to pull at your heartstrings
that is going to get you to keep going?
And if you don't have that, you have to
try a bunch of things until you figure
it out.
So, now that you've gone through this, I
mean you've done it many times, but the
book is a really concrete example of
late in the game, somebody presents an
idea to you, who am I to do that,
negative voice,
uh you've no confidence in it.
The reason that
that the whole idea of radical
confidence is so interesting to me is
look, maybe there really are people like
maybe Elon Musk just does not doubt
himself. He's got so much intellect.
He's like, "I know I can do whatever I
set my mind to." But that has not been
my experience that I have to have a
belief system that even though I don't
feel the emotion, even though my
negative voice is kicking in, that I can
lean back on this belief system.
What do you use when you encounter
something that you doubt yourself on?
You don't have confidence on. What's the
mechanisms that you use to get yourself
into the position of radical confidence
where despite that fear, you're able to
move forward. All right, can I use you
as an example?
Please. All right. So, you're amazing in
front of the camera I mean you're
amazing anyway, but in front of the
camera and look um I'd bet my life on
that.
Um so, you're you really truly are next
level and look a lot of people say it
you're not new to hearing that.
And so, when it came to me being in
front of the camera, the pressure I put
on myself and I'm like, you're so good.
Everyone's going to expect me to be as
good as you. I need to be as good as
you. And then I realized, hey, that's
the pressure I'm putting on myself. No
one freaking said a word. Now, maybe
they were thinking it, but that's me in
my own head because I so admired you.
Now, that feeling can actually be
paralyzing cuz it's like people are just
going to compare with you to him, Lisa,
you shouldn't get in front of the
camera. Right? There's that. Or can I
use you as the best guide and motivation
on how to keep going forward? And so, I
decided to use it as motivation. So, A,
I've already seen you behind the scenes
work through your own anxiety about
going on stage, speaking on camera, and
things like that. And you've spoken
about it openly. So, A, you are a
wonderful
um
proof. And I think that's important,
right? Someone else who has been there,
someone else who has done it.
So, that was the first thing.
The how the hell do I actually get in
front of the camera? Because even if I
coach myself, even if I say, "Okay, I
really want to do this,
but I'm scared.
I can let you get in my way, but I
won't. I'll use you as motivation. But
how do I still get in front of the
camera? How do I shut that negative
voice up? And that's where we go back to
like you've got to have a plan. You've
got to have a strategy of what I'm
actually going to do.
So,
in fact, can I take you through a TEDx?
Please.
So, TEDx,
I was petrified. I started doing more
more content, but I was always petrified
to getting on stage. And you were the
one that was like, "Babe, if you want to
impact people, you know, the stage is a
really powerful place to do that." So, I
started to address that, and I was like,
"Lisa, give yourself grace. You don't
have to get on stage, even if you want
to create impact, but you have to
acknowledge that you were choosing to
not go on stage, which will actually
have an an effect on how much I can
impact. That's okay. Maybe I prefer to
keep myself comfortable. I just have to
make that decision. But I have to do it
with my eyes wide open. Instead of in 5
and 10 years looking back and saying
like, "God, why haven't I impacted that
many people?" I know. Oh, it's cuz you
didn't get on stage, Lisa. So, I just
decided getting on stage is a must. But
how the hell do you do it? I've seen you
on stage. You're so freaking
mind-blowing. And so,
how the hell am I going to get on stage,
not compare myself to you,
but use you as my tool?
And so, I said, "Okay, step number one
is I've got to just accept to getting on
stage." So, I made the commitment to
myself. The very next person that
reaches out, that once we did do public
speaking, I'm just going to say yes.
Because I'm scared, babe. I'm so
fearful.
And I just have to say yes. I can't get
in my own head. So, I made that rule.
And of course, the very next person that
bloody reached out was TEDx. So, I
wasn't expecting. I was like, "Oh, crap.
Couldn't it have been like a high
school, you know, small class?" Um but I
made the commitment. And so, if I'd said
no to that, now I'm just not I'm letting
myself
at this point, you're anchoring off the
mission. So, I've got a mission. I want
to impact people. So, that's like the
tugging of the heartstrings. Then, okay,
I'm going to make myself a promise, and
I'm the type of person that's high
integrity. So, I make this promise, and
you of course told me, so now it's out
in the world.
So, you're building this momentum,
basically forcing you. Cuz what's
interesting is I'm beginning to get this
thread of like, you need a bit of do or
die. You need the house to be online.
You need to be a good wife, I must do
this. To get myself on stage, I have to
be thinking about the people that I
could help that and I know you. You're
holding like real images of real people
in the amount of suffering and
struggling that they're going through
and you have ideas that might be useful
to them.
So, that's like how you're building this
Yeah, that's interesting. The do or die.
It's true. Yeah, because I get in my own
head. And it's in those moments where
it's do or die, it's like, all right
Lisa, what's more important to you? No
judgement. Like literally no judgement,
but just ask yourself, what is more
important to you? Helping the network
exit community or helping people who are
depressed. Right? That's that's our big
thing. Like the creating impact with
people who who struggle with mental
health issues. And so, what is more
important? No judgement, no pressure,
but is it more important to help this
person over here who may be your mom,
Lisa, because I can very much relate to
that?
Or is it more important to make sure
that you're not uncomfortable and
petrified in going on stage? Because
what if if your own, you know, my
insecurities
are just too crippling and that's
actually more important to me right now
than helping people? Just own it.
I don't want that crippling anxiety of
like, oh my god, but I should be in I
should No, no.
Look at the situation with your eyes
wide open and make a decision. And so,
in those moments, I just ask myself,
what's more important? Helping these
people
or and you know, the anxiety I'm feeling
about getting on stage? And I was like,
this doesn't sit well with me to not go
on stage. So, I'd made that commitment
to myself. Thank you for breaking that
down.
Um
and now how the hell do actually step on
stage?
Cuz going through the stages is one
thing to say yes. It's a whole other
thing to fly to the event,
prepare for a speech,
get on stage and give it.
And I I just the crippling feeling. I
mean, even now my stomach's doing those
just talking about it.
And so,
I had to have a plan. So, it basically
is what are the tools that are going to
help me get on stage.
And so, a few of them are the way that I
dress,
my hairstyle, I wear this Wonder Woman
necklace.
And I wear this Wonder Woman necklace on
purpose. Now, we talk very much about
leaning into the thing that we want.
Nothing happens by accident, right? We
cultivate meaning to certain things, and
they can be either extremely beautiful
or it can actually be detrimental to us.
So, how do we actually do it on purpose?
So, I took my Wonder Woman necklace, and
over time I would see in the mirror and
I was like, "Yes, I'm Wonder Woman."
You're the superhero of your own life,
Lisa. And I repeat that.
And repetition becomes habit. So, I see
my necklace, I repeat what it means to
me, I do that enough, it now actually
starts to mean something to me. And so,
what I did before I got on stage is I
suit up.
Like Wonder Woman does with her cape,
like she does with her cuffs, I put on
my big watch, I got my necklace on, I do
my hair, and it becomes this stepping
stone of I repeat to myself, "You're
Wonder Woman. You got this." And then
you
that idea come from? So, you refer to it
as your bad [ __ ] boots.
Mhm.
When did this start becoming a thing for
you? The idea of sort of armoring up and
signaling to yourself, cuz in the book
you refer to yourself as ordinary woman.
Mhm. In reference specifically to Wonder
Woman. Yeah. And you're saying, "I'm not
Wonder Woman. I'm ordinary woman. I
struggle with this stuff, and I wish
people could have seen you." Because I
think they would be more inclined, cuz
here's here is my big fear with radical
confidence. So, people will glance at it
and be like, "I'm not radically
confident. Sure, it's fine for her. You
know, look at she's got this crazy bold
hairdo and these tight pants and these
you know, insane boots. People like
that, yeah, of course, like things come
easily. But, if they could have seen you
in the bedroom when you were practicing
your speech for TEDx and you were
terrified."
When it was just you and I
practicing over and over and over,
that's what makes it dope is that you
were scared. Yeah. And so, walk us
through this idea of these bad [ __ ]
boots.
So, yeah, again, I I called them that
because I needed something to keep
motivating me. You're a Sasha Fierce.
Yes. Right? Isn't that what Sure, yes,
I'm Sasha Fierce.
But, uh Beyoncé, that was her alter ego.
Her alter ego, yeah. And that's the
thing, it's like it becomes a
And thinking of the superhero language,
it becomes this part of you that is kind
of a little shy and embarrassed to say
it. Like it becomes this alter ego, this
like superhero thing, which is why I use
that language. It doesn't actually
become embarrassing anymore.
And so, even talking about my cuffs and
building up, it's language that I use on
purpose. I say it on purpose. I'm
putting on my cape because saying
otherwise like, "I'm putting on my my
shoes because I'm petrified to get on
stage." doesn't quite have a ring to it,
right? Like But, to say like, "I'm
putting on my cape, so I got this."
It makes a difference. I even do the
face.
Um and so, with my boots, it became a
like as I walk, to A, I think it started
with you. You probably saw them and were
like, "Oh my god, you look so sexy."
Right? So, it's like someone says
something to you. You actually feel it
as well.
And so, when I feel it, over time, when
I would go and put on these boots, these
ones here, when I was going to put them
on,
it would would usually then be on
nights. I was trying to be sexy and we
were having date nights. So, now I'm
reinforcing what they mean to me and how
I feel when I wear them. I feel hot. I
feel sexy. I feel confident. So, now it
becomes a tool.
And then, how do I lean into it more?
Give it a freaking name that makes you
feel badass. And it's like, you got my
bad [ __ ] boots. It just has a ring to
it. So, I started to say it and then it
became a thing and then now it gets
repeated and now it becomes everyone's
like, "Yeah, the bad [ __ ] boots."
So, how do people at home really lean
into the things they need? The alter
ego, the the design, the things they
wear.
But, it absolutely works in the
opposite. Like, all these are tools to
help you feel a certain way. So, if you
don't know which your bad [ __ ] boot or
your version is, go into your closet,
try a bunch on. Go to freaking Target
and go in their shoe section and
literally just try shoes on. Go into
their clothes section and try on. You
don't have to buy stuff. Like, just try
it and see what works.
And then, lean into it. Hello, my
friend. You know that I believe success
requires you to see failure as the
ultimate learning tool. Success requires
you to be disciplined and gritty and to
never ever quit on your dreams. I say
all of that because one thing is
certain, the road to achieving your goal
is not smooth or linear. I wish it was,
but it's not. It's going to be bumpy,
sometimes scary. Some days you'll take
two steps forward and slide 10 steps
back. And that's why success also
requires you to know how to pull
yourself out of a rut and get unstuck
fast. Life is short. You can't be
messing around with your goals. You've
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So, I pulled a class from Impact Theory
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So that people understand you're not
going to feel
invincible. The people that you look at
do not feel invincible. It's the people
that are able to overcome that
hesitation, the fear, by either okay, I
have to put myself on the line. I know
if I don't do that, I'm not going to
move through. I have to hold myself
accountable. I need to make this about
integrity. I have to practice. I have to
make peace with my negative voice. In
fact, one of the chapters in your book
is make your negative voice your [ __ ]
and your BFF, right? And to understand
that relationship, that you're never
going to be able to make it go away, but
you have to be able to understand it, to
work with it, to leverage it, to find a
way to still take the steps. And that
That's why I wanted to start with that
end quote of this really is This isn't
about getting rid of fear. This is about
coexisting with it. Uh there's a John
Wayne quote. Um courage isn't the
absence of fear, it's saddling up
despite it. And so that idea of like I'm
putting on my bad [ __ ] boots
because I need to construct this
mindset, right? I need to build my way
of thinking, my way of feeling. I need
to understand what are those things that
are going to bring me together in this
moment so that I can figure it out,
right? And that's the punchline. I'm
going to figure it out. It isn't I put
on the boots or I wear a cape and
suddenly I am you know, just magically
have all the answers. It's that I'm I'm
just not going to quit. I'm not going to
give up. I'm going to have the courage
to stand in this discomfort long enough
to learn. Mhm. 100% and yes, the boots
alone don't do it, and sometimes they
may not work if you haven't got all the
tools and you don't know where you're
going or what your your purpose like
your why. And how the hell do I just
keep moving forward? It's not about
feeling good about myself every day.
It's not about how do I get rid of the
fear? How do I overcome the fear?
It's about how the hell do I impact that
person?
And what are the skill sets I need to
build along the way so that I can get to
it. And the fear sometimes comes along
with me. The insecurity sometimes comes
along with me a lot of the time. The the
negative mindset of who the hell do I
think I am is always there.
But I just don't let her stop me and I
use her now to my advantage to help me
get to where I want to go. And I think
that that's the biggest thing with um
many people is identifying what is that
end goal.
What are you actually moving towards?
There's two ideas in the book that I
think most people would consider
contradictory,
but I think are so important.
One is something that people have heard
you say a lot today, which is no
judgment, no pressure.
But the other is one of your chapter
titles is toughen the [ __ ] up,
buttercup. Yeah, buddy. So, how do I
reconcile those or how does somebody
that maybe is new to a growth mindset,
how do they
make those make sense together?
Um all right. So,
why do you say no pressure?
Cuz it's your life.
And I think that
we feel the pressure of judgment by
others,
how other people are going to react or
how I'm going to be perceived, that we
make judgments based on the the the
worry, the concern.
And to me it's like it's your life. If
you don't want to do this, there's no
pressure. Like it's your freaking life.
So, I say it to almost shed all the
expectations and the shoulds and musts
that we've so been um you know,
programmed to have. So, I think it's
just so important to say, when you ask
yourself these questions, you can't put
the pressure on yourself about the
judgment, the shame, or what will come
from answering it. You just need the
truth. So, by removing the pressure, you
to me, I was able to answer a lot of the
hard questions in my life that I was so
worried about asking. Because then
you're able to steer towards what you
really want.
Yeah.
So, then why toughen the [ __ ] up? If
it's really just about, "Hey, live your
life, be honest, be authentic. Uh it's
okay if you don't want to do that." But
now imagine someone says, "I do want to
do it,
but it's really hard." Toughen the [ __ ]
up, buttercup. Like it right? It's like
again, it's if this and I say that in
joking, but the truth is is that
if you have something you really want to
get to, a goal, and you're just
deciding, "Yes, it's going to be
uncomfortable, but I'm going to do it."
The whole point of the chapter is you
can absolutely toughen up. Like who you
think you are today, all your
weaknesses, you've got this. You can
freaking get stronger. But also, the
buttercup side of it is actually a
beautiful side that I try to keep. And
so, there can be moments and I talk
about like um caring about what people
think, right? It's so
And so, I do care what people think. And
that's I think the beauty of me, the
soft side, the thing that like I do want
to be liked. But the toughen up is I
want to be liked, but not to the
detriment of my freaking goal. So, you
better believe I got to get tough, I got
to set boundaries, I've got to um really
own what I want, I've got to speak up,
and I can't be too sensitive. Because
all of those things will get in the way
of me getting to my goal.
And so, it's about embracing the beauty
that can be you, but also not telling
yourself that you're too weak or that
you can't do something and that I'm tell
like the the the chapter supposed to
have utter compassion with a whole fire
and a kick up your ass all at the same
time. Because to me sometimes I need the
compassion. Sometimes I need the
softness, but I can't stay there. And
what happens is if I stay there too
long, I think something's not possible.
And I like to take ownership over it. So
the toughening up is to say in moments
where maybe I feel sensitive in a
meeting with you, I don't have to be
sensitive. I don't have to take that to
heart. I can actually look at the
situation and actually identify emotion
and say this doesn't have a place here
right now in this business meeting,
let's say.
And that's just something that it
doesn't have to be one way all the time.
I think you can have the beauty of being
um compassionate and having a heart and
caring about what you do and you can
also be freaking tough as nails and step
up to the plate, bat in hand, and
freaking call your shot and swing as
hard as you've got because you're
freaking tough.
And so that's where that comes from.
Kim Kardashian burned the internet to
the ground by telling women to work
harder.
I think that this idea is reminiscent of
that.
Do you agree with that? And what's the
nuance that you want to make sure that
people understand when you say that you
need And one, I think it's important
that people understand that when you're
writing this stuff, you're writing to
yourself.
Yeah.
Like this is these are all the things
that you have had to tell yourself in
order to have the success that you want,
that this isn't you admonishing anybody
else. This is you going, "Okay, I was in
this situation. I was scared out of my
mind.
Let me tell you how I got to the other
side and and actually
built the life of my wildest dreams."
But, do you do you worry that people
will misunderstand that idea, or is it
like, "Man, I wish it weren't so, but
you really do have to get tough. You
really do have to put in the work."
Like, how do you read that?
it all comes with intention. So, I think
she just may have a reputation. I don't
want to speak for her, but I had that
one line. I just had that one section
where she was like
what was it like, "Ladies, if you want
to achieve something, you're going to
have to work hard." or something. Yeah,
I don't think people want to work these
days. Like, you got to get off your ass
and work hard.
Yeah.
I thought it was fire.
So, the part about get off your ass and
work hard, word. Like, absolutely,
absolutely, absolutely. We did not have
this everything we have by sitting on
our ass.
And I freaking busted my I busted my ass
so damn much that I ruined my entire
health. So, I'm not actually advocating
for working that hard, but 100% I still
work very hard. And that's beautiful. I
love that about myself. I love that
about saying, "I don't deserve that."
Like, my YouTube channel, I have to
freaking work hard. I have to show up
every single freaking day and work hard
for every subscriber, and I'm willing to
do it. And I don't expect people to come
to my channel for no reason. I only
expect them to come to my channel if
they see that I bring value. So, that's
on me. That's not on anyone else. So, I
absolutely own that.
Now, with the Kim Kardashian thing, I
just think it comes to intention. Now,
maybe people don't see her in a certain
light, and I did really worry about that
with the book. And I said, "All I can do
is be truthful."
I can be truthful about what happened
with me. And so, even earlier where I
said, "Don't be too sensitive." There
were moments where I let my emotions
take over.
And being sensitive in that moment
didn't serve my goal. And it ended up
not serving the meeting. And so, when I
think about women say, "No, you should
own your sensitivity." 1,000%
But, sometimes there's no place for it.
If you want to achieve your goals.
That's the thing I think that has to be
said out loud so people can get it. It's
like
hey, no judgement.
You don't need to go after big goals,
but if you want to go after big goals,
there's just a reality. Can I give you a
Churchill quote that I think will [ __ ]
you up when I heard it? Now, this is a
mashup of Ray Dalio prefacing a
uh Churchill quote, but I think you need
them together. So, put together it goes
like this. By and large, we get what we
deserve and as Churchill said, "Deserve
victory." Mhm.
You got to deserve victory. Now, that's
a word that's going to spin people to
[ __ ] out of control is deserve. Now,
that's me and Churchill saying it's not
you, but I want to get your read on that
idea. I think it just comes to
what life do you want?
Like
if you don't want to work hard and you
don't want big grand things,
have the life you want. I'm not telling
anyone to go out and work hard. Like I'm
really not.
And so, but if
you want a to run a business, for
instance, if you want a successful
relationship, the only way I, Lisa
Bilyeu knows how to do it, is to put the
tension, time, and focus, and priority.
That's what I've done with my business.
That's what I've done in my relationship
and that's where how we've gotten to 20
years. Now, some people say, "I don't
think relationships should be work."
Okay, cool, then don't work on your
relationship.
I I I I I I I Let me know how it goes.
Hopefully it works, but I actually mean
that. Hopefully it works for you. I just
couldn't find that work for me. I
couldn't find that not paying attention
to you and not caring how our
relationship or not giving time to it.
I haven't seen how that leads to me and
you having a successful relationship.
So, I had to remove the worry about what
people think about my opinion because I
have my North Star. Going back to what
the book's about, the fear and doing it
anyway. Of course I have the fear. Of
course I have the fear of someone
picking up the book and saying, "Who the
[ __ ] does she think she is? It's all
right for her. Whatever Whatever words
they're going to use."
I can't worry about that.
All I can do is focus on what is that
goal? Impact.
Am I being truthful to my story, to what
I've learned along my journey? Yes.
Do I think it's universal? No. And so I
can't worry about
whether everybody likes me or not, cuz
the truth is no.
Not everyone's going to like me. Just
let me just set myself up for success
right there.
But
if what my advice is true to me and
exactly how I have gotten where I am
and I do actually try and frame it like
this is just what worked for me, but now
you have to find that version of
that version for you. So yes, I'm fully
prepared that people may pick up the
book and hate it.
And I just said I poured my heart and
soul into it. And this is actually a
really powerful thing that because of
all the mindset I've done in the past
allowed me to do this for this book.
I knew I would be devastated if it
tanked and didn't do well. Like
anything. Everyone puts their heart and
soul. You put a year into working on
something and no one likes it, I would
be crestfallen.
But I wrote a chapter called Validation
Is For Parking.
And so my point being that I can't get
my validation
Thank you.
And so the point being I cannot get my
validation from whether this book
succeeds or not.
And so as I was writing the book, I even
spoke to you about it and I was like, "I
need to make sure that this doesn't
knock me to my knees if if it doesn't do
well." And so how do I do that? How do I
get my validation? But um how do I feel
good about myself in writing the book,
but not get the validation out of the
outcome on whether it succeeds or not?
And so I made a commitment to myself and
I said, all right, Lisa,
give the book everything you've got.
Like, give it everything. Leave
everything all out on the table.
Don't like take, you know, of it I took
time off for my own health, but like
don't just be like, ah, it's fine. Oh,
we've got an audience, they'll buy. No,
no. Give every ounce of your being to
this book so that before it even goes
out on sale, you can be bloody proud of
it.
Because that pride before it goes on
sale is the thing I have to hold on to
for god knows how long.
Um
and so, I processed it. I
went all in and I literally by the end I
was like, I'm freaking proud of it. And
so now, however people perceive it, I
obviously really hope that it creates
impact
um because that's my North Star, but if
it didn't, I'm still okay with the fact
that it failed. It will still sting. I'm
not going to freaking lie, but I won't
then take it as my validation, my value,
or my worth. I'll be proud of it and
I'll just say, all right, if your North
Star is still impact, you shouldn't
write another book because no one bought
it.
No, I I would not take that message
away. Interesting. The book is usable.
It is so useful. You've encapsulated the
ideas of how you approach success in
getting what you want in life. I
guarantee whether it sells or not,
you've captured the ideas.
It's usefulness to me is the thing that
you should be most proud of. Now,
whether we're able to sell it is a whole
different question. I think it's going
to sell like [ __ ] hot cakes because
it's unbelievably good. But and and I
really mean that. Like it it So, when we
started this journey,
I thought I was going to write a book as
well and realized that wasn't the path
that I wanted to walk and maybe one day
I'll bring a ghost writer and however
good they can make it, just take Impact
Theory University and turn it into a
book. But when I read this, I was like,
oh my god, like you've captured the
ideas that this company was designed to
put out into the world. And so, yeah,
let that be. You poured your heart and
soul into it, and so the sincere pursuit
of something to me is far more valuable.
You obviously, at least between you and
I as as husband and wife and business
partners,
you clearly put everything into this
book, uh but you've captured
extraordinarily useful ideas
extraordinarily well.
Thank you, baby. I would could think I
was just saying that
um
if something succeeds or fails, it
doesn't necessarily equate to how much
time and energy and heart you put into
something. And so,
I used to though, that sort of thing I
would take very personally. I would take
it as a reflection of who I was as a
person and what I have to offer the
world and oh my god, I'm no good. I
can't believe it. I just embarrassed
myself. Like all of that used to be the
mindset that I had. And so, being able
to very easily say, "I'm freaking proud
of it, no matter how well it does or
doesn't do." And if it doesn't do well,
like
maybe I don't write another book because
maybe it doesn't create impact and maybe
now I just reflect and go, "I really
enjoyed it, but I don't want to spend
another year of my life on something
that doesn't actually, you know, create
impact." And that's okay. And I think
that that's the point that I was making
is that
doing something back to what you were
even saying about mission, how do people
find your their mission and their
purpose in life?
It's trying things like that and then
seeing. If I wanted to write another
book, I would just say, "Okay, now that
I've written one, what am I going to
learn from it? And what am I going to do
differently so it actually does create
and I assess. So, failure is just an
opportunity to learn, and so how can I
learn from this? And if I want to keep
going, I will.
Um but making sure that I'm not tied my
um
self-esteem to it. That's the key.
All right.
The team has put something together for
you that I want you to see
to make sure that you understand that
these ideas that you've put out verbally
up until this point. I'll let them move
that I guess
so go ahead and wheel that bad boy up
here.
Yeah,
you have a view on that. Okay, so
um
you've been putting these ideas out into
the world and so we wanted to reach out
to people who've already been impacted
by the ideas that you've outlined in the
book.
Because hearing how people are using
this and how they're using it to start
businesses and to change their lives is
pretty amazing. For people watching this
you had no idea that we were putting
this together at least as far as I know.
know.
It's pretty cool. All right, take it
away.
Hi Lisa, I just wanted to pop on and
give a big thank you. I cannot express
my gratitude for all that you do and
what you stand for. If you didn't step
into your purpose and this journey, I
would not be the mom business owner a
woman that I am today. I found you years
ago after obsessing and binge watching
Tom on Impact Theory. But it wasn't
until I found you and Women of Impact
that I really started to find and define
myself. Listening in everyday to Women
of Impact not only changed me but it
literally transformed how others saw me.
I want you to know your hard work is not
overlooked. I want to give a moment of
appreciation for all your efforts.
Because of your impact, I show up each
and every day without guilt, fear or
doubt getting in the way. Because of
you, I have learned to turn off the
noise and live my life free to explore
with excitement and confidence.
I can live in confidence because I know
whenever I begin to feel that doubt
creeping back in, I can always go to any
of your platforms for accountability.
So, thank you Lisa for being you, for
going first and being the example, for
working your ass off for women like me
who believed we couldn't come back from
our trauma and loss. I cannot wait to
get your new book and leave it on my
nightstand. It will be a great constant
reminder for me to show up for myself
with radical confidence each and every
day. So, congratulations Lisa on your
success and good luck on all of your new
and upcoming achievements. May you
embrace and enjoy the journey in good
health and abundance all year. Hey Lisa,
I'm Katie Moran. I asked you a question
on ITU Live about self-confidence and
you told me about self-signaling. It
changed my life. My confidence was so
low from anxiety that I couldn't speak.
My voice would crack or I would be
completely in auto pilot. I started
self-signaling and created an online
store Equanimity Boutique to share
uplifting messages through
self-signaling with others. Now I've
started a podcast and recording audio of
my three books, voiceovers for NFT
projects on suicide prevention and lucid
dreaming,
and spoken word for music album.
Thank you so much, Lisa. You've made a
difference in my life and every life I
touch. Hi Lisa, Shelly here.
I am so excited right now.
I never thought in my lifetime that I
would get an opportunity to express
gratitude for everything that you do and
the impact it has on my life.
It's amazing.
I remember once I got an opportunity to
ask you a question in one of the live, I
think,
coaching sessions.
And I asked you on how to set boundaries
and how to deal with past relationships.
And the guidance that you gave me, it
helped me so much. I found the courage
to deal with the past. I am so focused
on the present.
And most importantly, I am learning to
prioritize myself.
Thank you so much for that. I can't
thank you enough. I'm like a different
person. I have never felt this way.
So, thank you so much for that. And a
special shout out for all the Women of
Impact episodes that you do.
It's so amazing, so powerful.
It's like a daily reminder for me to
believe in myself and keep working hard
to be the better version of myself and
to believe that I can achieve and I am
capable of doing.
So, thank you so much for everything
that you do.
I can't thank you enough. I can go on
and on about everything.
But, thank you so much. Keep doing what
you're doing. It's just so inspiring.
Thank you.
Hi Lisa, my name is Eva and I am an
entrepreneur who lives in Calgary,
Alberta, Canada.
I'm one of the OGs from Impact Theory
University and I wanted to congratulate
you on the releasing of your book, but I
also wanted to let you know um about a
situation where I got advice from you
and it was amazing. I was brave enough
to ask you about a critical
self-narrative in an Impact Theory
University Q&A session.
And you told me that
A, I should be kinder to myself, but B,
that critical voice never goes away, but
I can leverage it to be better. And I
have a screenshot from that conversation
that I keep at my desk at work.
And I've been really going out of my way
to be a kinder and better friend to
myself.
So, thank you on behalf of myself and
all the Impact Theory University
students for holding space for us
and for answering questions and taking
the time to give us tremendous advice
that's meaningful. Thank you so much for
your time.
Hey Lisa, it's Renee. You know, it was
just a little over a year ago where I
came to you cuz I had no confidence. I
wanted to start a YouTube channel on
making handbags and you encouraged me to
do that and sure I did it. And I grew
that channel and wow, what a difference
that made in my life.
After that, I started facilitating a
goal-setting group in Impact Theory
University.
I released 30 lb in um a 100-day
challenge, won the challenge,
then I um
then I got certified with Tony Robbins
and Chloe Madanes as a life coach. Loved
it so much.
Now I'm learning how to trade um
trade crypto and stocks.
It's just amazing, the difference in my
life. I am not the same person, girl.
It's just a radical confidence, radical
confidence. The skill sets I have
learned and I'm getting to teach others,
it's just incredible. None of that would
be possible had I not had that
conversation with you. You have no idea
the difference this has made in my life.
Thank you so much, Lisa.
Thank you.
Aw.
So, what I love about the video is that
you get a chance to hear people that are
actually using these ideas in their
lives, and you know, Renee at the end
really sums it up. Like, she's learning
things she never thought she would learn
from, you know, starting the handbag
business to the YouTube channel, to
becoming a certified coach with Tony
Robbins, to learning about crypto and
NFTs, all things that she wouldn't have
had confidence before because she
thought, "Well, if I have a negative
voice, that's a sign that I shouldn't
pursue it."
Mhm. And so, for people to be able to
get the toolkit to have the process that
they can run to actually move forward,
to stand in that long enough to figure
it out. Like, that to me is why this
book is so incredible.
Why I'm super glad that you wrote it.
So, at this point, where can people
follow you? Where can they get the book?
Oh, that was really emotional. Um
So, I just need to take a minute.
Take a minute.
me at Lisa Billieu on Instagram and
pretty much everywhere else, I think.
Um and radicalconfidence.com where you
can get the book and there's a bunch of
amazing bonuses over there and um You go
ham on TikTok. Don't forget that.
yeah. And the book my partners over at
Amazon and Target and Barnes & Noble,
whichever one people want to get, so.
There it is.
Guys, obviously I am insanely biased,
but I will say that I don't think she's
amazing because she's my wife. She's my
wife because I think she's amazing and
this book is an encapsulation of the
Impact Theory ethos. Man, woman, doesn't
matter. Regardless of your age, this is
a book that everybody that's gotten
value out of this channel should read.
I've read it multiple times. It is
amazing. It succinctly puts together all
these incredible ideas in a way that's
going to be highly usable for you in
your life so that you can make the kind
of changes that you want to make. I
promise you this book will change you
forever if you let it. All right, guys.
Thank you so much for joining us and
speaking of things that will change you
forever if you let it. If you haven't
already, be sure to subscribe and until
next time, my friends, be legendary.
Take care. Peace.
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for us to check ourselves before we
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I'm upset, if I'm angry, if I'm cranky,
it is my responsibility because it's
what I'm doing up here that's making me
have that reaction. And if I'm the
problem, I am also the solution.