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Dave Ramsey addresses the ongoing cost of living crisis, arguing that it represents both a spending and an earning issue rather than just one or the other. He contends that viewing economic conditions through isolated snapshots is misleading because life functions like a continuous film strip where circumstances constantly evolve. Using his own career trajectory as an example, he notes that while individuals may occupy specific roles for periods of time, such as middle management, they do not remain static; on average, people hold 14 different positions before retiring. Ramsey illustrates this dynamic by calculating compound interest scenarios based on a hypothetical $70,000 household income saving 15% over decades, which could yield millions in retirement accounts. However, he emphasizes that such calculations often assume stagnant wages for an entire career path, whereas reality dictates that most Americans experience fluctuating incomes with an overall upward trajectory by the time they reach their peak earning potential at age 35 or 40. The discussion shifts to how individuals can navigate current economic headwinds like high interest rates and housing costs compared to previous generations. Ramsey asserts that while it is mathematically true that wages have not kept pace with inflation since the "boomer curve," this does not mean a young person in their twenties will remain stuck at those levels forever. He points out that income changes are inevitable over time, allowing individuals like himself and others to eventually outpace wage stagnation through personal growth and career progression. This perspective suggests that despite current difficulties where houses seem too expensive relative to wages, the future outlook for a 30-year-old will differ significantly from today's snapshot because rates, house prices, and incomes are all subject to change. Ramsey encourages listeners to focus on their ability to drive this upward mobility rather than dwelling on temporary economic snapshots that define them as losers if they do not immediately see massive wealth accumulation without raises. Ramsey introduces a broader geopolitical context by referencing Gary Stevenson, a former top trader at Goldman Sachs who has recently adopted an aggressive left-leaning stance in the UK advocating for super high taxes on billionaires and non-domiciled individuals earning over 20 million to 50 million pounds. He notes that Stevenson's YouTube channel garners millions of views and he frequently appears on major British news outlets like BBC News Night, attributing this shift partly to economic pain and unmet expectations in the UK regarding unemployment among youth and high living costs. Ramsey expresses interest in facilitating a dialogue between American and British perspectives, highlighting how these differing approaches reflect fundamental debates about capitalism versus socialism. He acknowledges that Keynesian economics, which emphasizes government spending funded by taxing the rich to stimulate recovery from depressions like the Great Depression under FDR, has heavily influenced modern education and political thought, often overshadowing Adam Smith's free-market principles in college curricula. Despite the prevalence of Keynesian ideas in academia, Ramsey maintains a strong preference for market freedoms over government-maintained lifestyles as the primary engine for wealth creation. He argues that while he respects figures like John Maynard Keynes historically, relying on state-run systems does not offer the same opportunities available to individuals today. In his view, starting from nothing and building wealth is currently more achievable in America than at any other time or place due to accessible markets and information, provided an individual possesses drive and intelligence. He clarifies that this advantage stems from access rather than redistribution of existing resources taken from others. The conversation concludes with Ramsey promoting Element electrolyte drinks as a personal staple for his morning routine over the last three years, praising their science-backed ratios of sodium, potassium, and magnesium which help reduce muscle cramps and optimize brain health without artificial ingredients or sugar. He highlights the brand's risk-free refund policy and offers viewers a free sample pack link to try all eight flavors themselves.
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Is the cost of living crisis a spending
crisis or an earning crisis?
Um, it's probably both. But the solution
is to understand the when people look at
that uh and frame something up the way
we're talking about there. It it's a
it's not an accurate portrayal of life
because all we're doing is taking a
snapshot in the moment. And if you had
taken a snapshot of me right before I
filed bankruptcy, right after I filed
bankruptcy, I mean, and and said, "Okay,
we're going to analyze the economy based
on the macro economy based on where Dave
sits right now." I mean, he's a college
graduate. He's a father of two. He's 28
years old. And uh look at where he is.
Uh that snapshot was would give you zero
hope. But snapshots aren't how life
works. Life is a film strip. It's a
series of snapshots strung together and
the next frame something's different,
better or worse, the next frame
something's different, better or worse,
the next frame. And so the film keeps
running and so that guy in middle
management is not there
uh for 40 years. He didn't get there and
stay exactly in that place and never
move. That that average American doesn't
stay there. They they move around. I
mean, the average person now has 14
positions before they retire. So, he's
not going to be there. We know that. And
um and here's the thing. I I'll run some
numbers sometimes. I'll say, "Okay, if
you saved 15% of your household income
and you had an average household income
of $70,000 and you rent it out and and
you did that for um uh 14, 15, 20 years,
whatever, you'd have $7 million in your
401k." Okay? you just run the compound
interest out on the average household
income saving 15% of their income. It's
easily north of $5 million. And I'm
like, but that is based on the fact that
over that 15 years, the guy never got a
raise. So he started at average and for
15 years never got a raise, which by
definition is a
loser. How do you start at average and
not go up at all? You know, I mean that
by definition. So this is not how humans
work. They go down, they go up, they go
down, they go up. And but there's an
overall trajectory of up. Very few
Americans end their career making less
than they made at the beginning of their
career. You take a 35 or a 40-year
career path and you go, okay, in and out
of jobs, in and out of careers, maybe
change complete directions, but at the
end at the at the apex of my life, when
I'm at my maximum earning potential, am
I making less than I did when I was 22
years old and I just got out of school?
No. almost zero. You can't find them. I
mean, now you could have the exception
be a medical problem. You could have all
these other things, but I'm talking
about just in general terms, that's a
fairly easy set of assumptions. So,
bottom line is if you're in your 20s and
houses are too expensive because
interest rates are 6% and your wages
haven't kept up with what the boomer
curve was, which are all accurate
mathematical statements, you'll be okay.
Cuz when you're 30, it's going to be
different. It's going to be different.
Rates will be up or they'll be down.
House prices will be up. Your income's
going to change. And I don't know what
the average income is going to change,
but your income's going to change
100%. Your income's going to change. And
can you outpace can you personally
outpace the uh fact that wages haven't
kept up? Well, I did and you did. So uh
and John Deloney did and other people do
and we do it all the time. So go do
that. That's your thing.
Are you familiar with a guy called Gary
Stevenson? It's Gary's Economics on
YouTube. I'm I'm sorry. I'm I don't keep
up with things the way I should. I might
not have I'm gonna uh I'm going to send
it over once we're done. I would love
for you to have a look at at this guy,
British guy. He was a trader uh I want
to say for Goldman. I can't remember
where he was, but he was one of the one
of the top traders for a while at
Goldman. um and is now campaigning from
a very aggressive left-leaning
perspective in the UK for uh super high
taxes on high net worth individuals. Uh
and he's talking he's talking
like 20 million to 50 million and above.
He's particularly trying to target
billionaires uh non-domi people that are
able to come and not pay tax on their
global stuff. But he is on fire in the
UK. Uh, every video that he puts up on
his YouTube channel is a million to two
million plays. Every debate that he
does, he's on BBC uh, News uh, Channel
4's News Night. He's on BBC Question
Time. And um, I would be I'd be very
interested I would be fascinated to try
and work out a way to get you and him to
have a sit down and have a discussion to
see what America versus the UK because a
lot of people in the UK now have this
perspective. I think it's a an outgrowth
of pain. And it's an outgrowth of um
expectations not necessarily being met.
Cost of living is very bad there. Lots
of unemployment especially among people
under the age of 25 which you may have
seen. Um and then a very different sort
of message uh coming from the other side
of the pond. But I'll send you I'll send
you some stuff to to have a look at. Uh
I I think you'd be very fascinated to
see what's going on in the UK at the
moment. Sure. It sounds like a you know
quintessential argument just between
capitalism and socialism. Uh I mean John
Mayor Kanes was British obviously and
Keynesian economics uh you know came in
with FDR and was arguably uh some people
say one of the things that turned the
America around out of the great
depression was government spending and
taxing the rich uh to do that and um so
the Keynesian economic mentality has now
invaded all of the American colleges as
well. I was taught it as fact as opposed
to Adam Smith free market uh you know
capitalism as fact. Um, but I had good
critical thinking skills and so I've
gone past that and I don't I think John
Maynard Kanes was a Um, and so I
really have no use for that. So you're
saying that you're saying that the
British don't have an illustrious
history of providing you with uh Well,
not that guy. I mean I don't, for all I
know, Adam Smith might have been
British. I don't know. But the uh uh he
probably was. But the father the father
of capitalism. But uh uh I'm it's not
about Brits. That's not the for me. I
mean, I I uh uh I don't have a problem
at all with that, but it's just a matter
of okay, do we believe that
governmentrun and governmentmaintained
lifestyles give us the answer? And uh
the truth of the matter is is that
probably in America today uh the little
man, the guy starting from nothing has a
better chance of building wealth because
of the freedoms and the ease of access
to the markets, the ease of access to
information. uh if he has drive or she
has drive and has two brain cells to rub
together, you probably have a better
chance of becoming wealthy in America
today starting from nothing than and in
any place at any time in history. And it
wasn't because we took it from someone
else and gave it to you. It's because
you have access to go get it. And that's
the difference. That's the difference in
the mentality it sounds like. I don't I
don't know this guy at all you're
talking about. So, I'd be interested to
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