Leave The USA Before 2030? - CIA Spy On World War 3's Timeline | Andrew Bustamante
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The conversation begins with an analysis of Ray Dalio's economic theory regarding historical cycles, which posits that empires follow a predictable 100 to 150-year trajectory ending in collapse and war before a new order emerges. The speakers note that the United States appears to be at the end of its century-long cycle, characterized by internal division, massive debt accumulation, hyperinflation through money printing, and the rise of a competing superpower. This framework is contrasted with Kondratiev's wave theory, which identifies cyclical patterns in economic expansion and conflict occurring roughly every 25 years that are expanding over time. According to this model, humanity is currently approaching or has reached a peak period of global conflict around 2024–2025, suggesting that the era of relative peace following World War II may be concluding as nations compete for dominance in an evolving geopolitical landscape. A significant portion of the discussion focuses on potential flashpoints for future wars, specifically centering on China's strategy regarding Taiwan and Hong Kong. The speakers argue that while traditional military invasion is possible, a more likely scenario involves China utilizing legal maneuvers similar to those used in 2019 with Hong Kong to legitimize an administrative takeover of Taiwan without immediate large-scale bloodshed. By altering laws within its jurisdiction, Beijing could establish the legal foundation for enforcing Chinese law on the island and deploying police or military units under international cover such as UN resolutions. This approach mirrors historical "bloodless coups" seen in Southeast Asia like Thailand, where political shifts occur through administrative control rather than direct combat, potentially exploiting peak division within American society during an electoral cycle to minimize resistance from a confused public. The dialogue also addresses the complex economic entanglements that complicate any military response to such events, particularly regarding Taiwan's dominance in semiconductor manufacturing. Although China designs its own chips and possesses significant market share in production facilities, it relies heavily on Taiwanese technology for advanced chip fabrication, which holds approximately 98% of global market share. The United States' current strategy involves initiatives like the CHIPS Act to bring manufacturers such as TSMC back to American soil to reduce dependency. However, the speakers highlight that business interests with mainland China are significantly larger than those tied specifically to Taiwan, creating a dilemma where economic cooperation might persist even if political tensions escalate. This reliance on technology and trade suggests that future conflicts may be fought through sanctions and legal restrictions rather than purely kinetic warfare, challenging traditional notions of national security. Furthermore, the transcript explores historical precedents for American unity during times of crisis, drawing parallels between World War II successes and past internal fractures like the Civil War. The speakers emphasize that Alexander Hamilton's concept of "American primacy" was rooted in maintaining a unified nation from coast to coast as essential for long-term global influence, noting that previous conflicts were often unpopular but necessary to preserve national integrity against monarchical oppression or fragmentation. While modern media narratives focus on condemning Russia and supporting Ukraine with weapons and training, the speakers point out that resources like trained soldiers are finite and cannot be replenished quickly enough to sustain a prolonged war effort indefinitely. Additionally, they observe fractures within NATO alliances, where countries like Belgium and Hungary have not fully condemned Russian actions, indicating that global unity is far from absolute despite Western rhetoric. Ultimately, the conclusion of the discussion shifts focus toward long-term legacy planning rather than immediate political events over the next two years. The speakers encourage individuals to prepare their families, businesses, and financial structures for a world where China may become the economic superpower by 2033 according to various economists. They warn that while the United States might retain its status as an economic and military power in some scenarios, the nature of conflict will evolve alongside technology and human thinking, making predictability difficult despite established cycles. The overarching message is one of caution regarding a potential decade or two defined by intense geopolitical competition, urging listeners to safeguard their legacies against uncertainties that could arise from shifting global orders and escalating international tensions involving major powers like China, Russia, India, and Brazil within the BRICS bloc.
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This This to me is goes back to what I
did not expect to be the theme of this
conversation, but how hilariously
predictable humans are.
So, Ray Dalio takes a very economic view
of the world, and he's like, "Oh, hey,
by the way, what he calls the big cycle
is so predictable that he broke it down
into six phases,
and every empire has gone through these
six phases. They last for roughly like
100 to 150 years. America's basically at
the end of the 100-year cycle,
um and phase six is total collapse, war,
basically, and the old world order falls
apart. There is usually a violent war,
and then a new world order is
established. And
we're like clockwork on the cycle from a
money perspective, from a division
perspective, like everything just lines
up. So, you have to have an internal
populace that is divided. Uh you need to
get yourself over your skis from a debt
perspective, which we've done. You have
to start printing money like crazy, and
there has to be a new superpower on the
rise. Like, it's the the stage is set,
and the stage was set in World War II,
which is how we became the dominant
power, to your point about waking a
sleeping dragon.
Sleeping dragon woke up, but now
uh we're in trouble. So, that's my
overly simplistic view of why this
worked. It was sort of a fluke, uh not a
fluke, but it was we we hit the cycle at
just the right moment when the British
Empire collapsed at the end of World War
II,
um because of our geography, we weren't
destroyed by bombs, so we come out of
the war pretty much unscathed. So, we
ramp up all of our production
capabilities. We absolutely um crush it.
We help win. We create the nuclear bomb.
Like, just a lot of things come
together, and so then we're established
as the world reserve currency.
Um
because it's not like we weren't divided
before then, but we got to really enjoy
a a hot minute of prosperity.
Mhm.
Does that seem like the right breakdown
of why we could overcome our differences
previously and now we can't? Like, how
do you Yeah, I don't think it's wrong. I
don't think it's wrong at all. I think
that it's interesting to me because it
sounds like Ray Dalio, uh one of the
reasons you respect him so much is
because his analysis is based in
economics. And he he's put his money
where his mouth is.
Economics and economists have long been
viewed as the true predictors of future
prosperity. At CIA, we lean heavily into
economic studies.
Economic experts, economic analysis, the
the law of economics, cuz the law of
economics is that of the law of
scarcity.
One of the first and most underrated
economists out there was actually a
Soviet economist, a guy named
Kondratiev.
Kondratiev created what's known as the
Kondratiev wave, the Kondratiev
Kondratiev cycle. That cycle essentially
puts us uh it explains the pattern of uh
interstate conflict or intrastate
conflict, where where countries compete,
actually go to war with each other.
And it and it puts it on about a 25-year
cycle. 25 years to a peak in conflict,
25 years to a a drop in conflict. And
then as the wave continues, like most
waves, the actual uh
peak of the waves expands. So, it goes
from being 25 years to 25 years to then
32 years to 32 years, and you start to
see this longer, slower wave, right?
But, it's still a wave uh it's still a
wave form.
The next peak of conflict, according to
Kondratiev's wave, against the United
States' point of view, happens in about
2024, 2025. Oh, great. So, we now have
multiple economists basically saying
that there's a peak coming, a peak of
conflict coming. And that conflict for
the Kondratiev wave is a peak of popular
conflict and unpopular conflicts. So,
we're coming off of an unpopular
conflict, right? Afghanistan and and
Iraq largely turned into an unpopular
conflict at the end, right? And the wave
between when that started and when the
next wave is coming is right in that
25-year mark, right? So, according to
Kondratiev, we are very we are not only
coming up on a period of conflict, but
it will be popular
inside the United States. So, people
will rally behind that conflict. That
doesn't mean we're going to win. That
doesn't necessarily mean it's going to
be in our best interest, but it does
mean, to your point earlier, that we
might see that moment where everybody
kind of comes together again.
I think part of the reason that we were
able to be successful was because of the
same rules of economics that you laid
out from World War II.
Our country Well, uh hugely unpopular.
Western expansion was hugely unpopular
at the time. The Civil War, nobody wants
to see the Civil War again. Most people
would say the Civil War was a traumatic
and horrible, you know, loss of life.
At the time, there was no other option.
Abraham Lincoln had no option except to
pursue Civil War because he knew that
the presidents before him had been
working to create a single solitary
nation that had national security from
coast to coast.
We can say it was a fight for states'
rights. We can say it was a fight for
slavery. We can say it was a fight for
lots of things. And those are all so
true, but they may not be the number one
reason why the why the Civil War was so
important. The Civil War was so
important because we needed to remain
one unified country from coast to coast
to have American primacy in the long
run. American primacy is a concept that
was created by Alexander Hamilton.
Really?
American primacy is not new. Mhm.
There's an entire society out there
called the Alexander Hamilton Society
that's focused on on preserving the
ideals of Alexander Hamilton and the
founding fathers who all believed that a
strong United States meant a strong
world. Because they saw and lived
through the oppression of living under a
monarchy, right? If you look at the top
five wealthiest countries in the world
right now, the top five wealthiest
countries in the world,
two of them are democracies.
The other three are monarchies.
Right?
So, the idea that democracy is the
solution to all wealth and success
hasn't really been proven yet. We're
still outnumbered by monarchies, right?
So, what is the future hold?
The future will be will be conflict is
coming.
Multiple economists have pointed to it.
You can see the writing on the wall,
what my wife and I call the writing on
the wall.
Conflict is coming. What will that
conflict look like is the bigger
question.
You talked earlier about how, you know,
you and I might be of the same ilk when
it comes to are we already engaged in
World War III? Is World War III coming
up? What will that World War look like?
There is conflict coming. There is no
reason for us to think it will look like
it looked in World War II.
If anything, conflict has proven to us
that it evolves and changes just like
technology and just like human thinking,
right? But it's still predictable
because it takes human beings to wage
war.
I don't think I'm answering your
question very well here, but these are
all This is where my brain goes.
So, my question is
do you see this
uh as a a conflict with China? Does it
become open warfare? Is this going to be
over Taiwan? Like
or the Russia-Ukraine thing spills over
into something? How do you see this
playing out?
So,
my honest my honest anticipation, what I
expect will happen, is that China will
make a legal move on Taiwan. What China
did in Hong Kong was legal first. They
changed the laws in Hong Kong. They
changed the laws in China, which then
changed the laws in Hong Kong, which
made it legal for them to go in and and
take Hong Kong by force. In 2019, right
before COVID hit, the whole world
watched and it happened.
And the whole world complained and threw
a fit and leveraged sanctions and said
it was unfair and unjust and everything
else. And then the Chinese did it
anyways. And now here it is 2023 and
most people don't even remember what
happened in Hong Kong just 4 years ago.
Now they're watching what's happening in
Ukraine.
Now in Ukraine,
some people say that what happened in
Ukraine is that the world rallied behind
Ukraine by giving them weapons and
giving them training and giving them
resources.
The most limited resource in Ukraine
is Ukrainian soldiers.
It's not tanks or guns or howitzers. The
thing that will run out first
is Ukrainian fighters. That's like it's
been it's a shame to me to watch what's
happening because the Ukrainian fighting
force is putting up such a valiant
fight. They're doing everything they
possibly can to equip every war fighter
to be worth 10, 20, 30, 50 Russian
fighters, right? But that's their most
limited resource. They're not going to
be able to create more Russian fighters
in the next 3 to 5 years.
You just can't You can't turn a
5-year-old into an 18-year-old.
So the that's the resource. That's the
the clock that Zelenskyy knows he's
fighting against he's racing against is
not a clock of fighter jets or or
missile defense systems. It's how am I
going to find enough fighters?
And NATO and the West know that they
don't want to put their boots in Ukraine
fighting the Russians because that's all
it would take for the Russians to
basically say, "Hey, NATO allies are
killing Russians. So now Russia can kill
NATO allies." And because Russia is a
nuclear power,
they essentially have the same
part the same trump card that we had in
World War II.
So, nobody in NATO wants to mess with
that Trump card.
Because when you have an animal
cornered, Yeah.
it does amazing things, right? So, what
I see happening is China will make a
legal move on Taiwan. What legal play do
they have with Taiwan though?
They
They have a number of legal plays. First
of all, do you know what the American
official American stance is on Taiwan?
It's something like um
we're we're not going to do anything,
but don't like touch them. It's so like
bizarrely vague. Yeah, it's called the
one China
two systems policy.
Essentially, in the eyes of American
policy, Taiwan already belongs to China.
Interesting.
So, then China
also has acknowledged with Taiwan, you
have your own system, but you're still
part of the mother country. This is Hong
Kong 2.0. Hong Kong 2.0. And over the
stretch of like what is it, 80 miles
from coast to coast between between
southeastern China and Taiwan? So,
it's it's sticky, man. If If China makes
a legislative move that basically forces
the Taiwanese system to then say, you
are now communist, right? They could
have the legal foundation to do that.
And then a legal attack is very similar
to what they did in Hong Kong. That goes
to court systems. That doesn't go to
bullets, right? And then when the legal
system starts to go in their best
interest or in their favor, now China
has legal grounds to basically have
Chinese uh police officers enforce
Chinese law inside Taiwan. This whole
process, what the hell is the United
States going to do? There's no missiles,
there's no guns. You can drive through
the straits all you want.
It's a legal issue. It's not a military
issue.
So, I anticipate China making a legal
move on Taiwan that will be supported by
key members in the UN. Why? Because how
many of the BRICS are in the the the
leading countries in the UN, all of
them. Right? If you look at the
Ukrainian conflict now,
the news media oversimplifies
everything. So, media says that the UN
passes resolutions that condemn Russia.
That's true. And the UN
passes resolutions with a large
majority. 140 countries, you know,
condemn Russia. That is also true. What
they're not telling you
is that the countries who are not
condemning Russia are the largest,
wealthiest countries in the UN. Mhm.
China is not condemning Russia. South
Africa is not condemning Russia. India
is not condemning Russia, right? Even
inside NATO, you have Belgium and
Hungary who are not condemning Russia.
Really?
So, even NATO is not unified on this.
Wow. Right?
China's seeing all of this, and China's
seeing it for what it really is, not for
what American media is telling the
American people it is. And the American
media isn't They're not trying to, you
know, they're not trying to lead us
astray. They're just trying to run a
business. They're trying to get people
to read their newspaper, click their
links, see their ads so that they can
have They can pay their employees the
next pay cycle. That's all media's
trying to do. It's not They're not
trying to lead us down the wrong path.
So, once there's an administrative
takeover in Taiwan, China has all the
rules that it like all the cover it
needs to basically just shipping to
start shipping National Guard troops,
police officers, even military units
over to Taiwan. And now Taiwan belongs
to China in a bloodless war, very
similar to the bloodless coups that
we've seen multiple times in places like
Thailand or all over Southeast Asia,
right?
That's how I see it happening, and I see
it largely happening in the lead-up to
the 2024 election because China is going
to benefit from a very confused American
base.
peak division. During peak division in
an electoral cycle. Wow. That's so
distressing because that feels very
plausible.
Uh okay, so we have a lot of business
interests there.
So, what will our reaction be? Cuz my
first thought was our reaction will be,
"Oh, maybe that's the best way for this
to happen. We can be like,
"Ah, we don't have to go and commit our
American lives to it."
Uh, they did it just like Taiwan, or
sorry, just like Hong Kong, where we'll,
you know, rant and rave and say this is
a problem and how dare you and
sanctions. But ultimately be glad that
we're not sending people to die, but do
we have enough business interests there
that, especially in in, you know,
sensitive areas like chip manufacturing,
where we can't let it go. Our business
interests with China
are
significantly bigger than our business
interests with Taiwan.
Wow. Taiwan has the market cornered on
semiconductors, but that's not just for
the United States. They have the market
They have 98% of the market share
in semiconductor manufacturing. Who
designs the semiconductors?
We do. Mhm. We have all the IP. They
just have the plants. That's why one of
the big initiatives in Biden's CHIP Act
is to actually bring, uh,
T- TSMC, TMSC, I forget the name of the
country, or I forget the name of the
company, the main manufacturer in
Taiwan, to actually bring them to the
United States. So, they're trying to
build manufacturing plants for the
Taiwanese company
here in the flyover states in the United
States. So, that we can just bring that
tool God. This is going to be a
fascinating 10 to 20 year period.
Absolutely. You just nailed it right
there. It is going to be a fascinating
decade to two decades in the future. So,
that's what I want to focus on. That's
what I encourage my clients to focus on.
It's not about what happens now or in
the next two years. It's about what are
you going to do
so that your family, your business, your
financial legacy, your individual legacy
is safeguarded
for what the world could look like 10 to
20 years from now. The the world could
look like the United States is still the
economic and military superpower. It
could look like that. So, you may not
have to change much.
But, according to economists, by 2033,
China will be the economic superpower.
That's not far away. Guys, if you like
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