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In this recap of *Lanterns* Episode 4, titled "The Weenie," hosts Lamont and Brandon analyze the episode's intense pacing and the evolving dynamic between John Stewart and Hal Jordan. They praise John's shift from a stoic figure to one displaying humor and confidence, particularly highlighting his dry wit at a pawn shop and his physical strength in lifting heavy weights. The discussion also covers Sinestro's manipulative tactics on planet OA, where he admits to fostering Hal's arrogance while hinting that John is his intended replacement, creating immediate tension between the two Lanterns. Additionally, the hosts critique the Guardians' controlling nature, noting how a Guardian named Lyanna warns John against visiting Sinestro, reinforcing the view of the Guardians as forces that prioritize obedience over critical thinking. The episode introduces significant moral ambiguity and plot twists regarding the Manhunters and Zoe's apparent death. While Zoe seems to be killed by a satellite explosion after an encounter with John, the hosts theorize this was a misdirect, pointing out that John showed no shock, suggesting he suspected the truth beforehand. This mystery is partially unraveled when Hector, the Manhunter, reveals he cured Min's cancer and lied about Zoe being his nurse, complicating the villains' image as they appear to save people from disease while remaining antagonists. A major revelation occurs when it becomes clear that Zoe was actually a Manhunter who tricked everyone by exploiting their fears, a truth dramatically exposed during a car crash. The hosts also address nitpicks regarding John's limited use of his ring constructs, debating whether these restrictions were due to budgetary constraints or necessary for covert operations within the narrative. The climax of the episode centers on an emotional breakdown for John Stewart after Hal Jordan reveals that his parents are still alive, causing John to panic before Hal stands firm on his instincts as a seasoned space cop. The tension escalates when John ejects from the vehicle to stop Hal from pursuing the Manhunter, leading to a heated argument where John admits he never trusted Anton and the other aliens because they are likely working alongside Sinestro. This confrontation sets up a looming conspiracy involving Sinestro, rogue Guardians, and the Manhunters, with the hosts anticipating a future team-up between Hal and John against these combined forces. The recap concludes with high expectations for Episode 5, where viewers can expect significant ring usage and intense conflict as the group hunts down the deceptive Manhunter, potentially involving a Red Lantern ring wielder connected to Sinestro's past.
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Hey, what's going on everyone? We are back, baby. Episode 4. It is me and Lamont Lanterns. This is the weenie. With the 48 hour deadline about to expire, John develops a new theory about the whereabouts of the cosmic hunter, which leads him and how to present their next plan to Sheriff Cain. Meanwhile, Howal's visit to Sinestro has consequences. Da da da. If you did not know, this is going to contain spoilers. Episode came out a few days ago. Lamont, this was another great episode. It It doesn't matter, you know, if I wanted to rank the episodes, but this one may be my favorite. It was really intense. Uh, we got a lot of personality, a lot of charisma from John because I was calling him Captain Stoic for the first three episodes and I thought that that had to do with his upbringing from his parents since they were so difficult. But I really did enjoy this episode. One being the acting as well. I love the score. I mean, ooh, when the these scenes when they were screaming at each other and they had it in the background complimenting bringing the scene to life, I was like, "Yes." It's like I want to jam this when I'm in my car. I do have a few nitpicks though as and it's just really one but a couple it happened a couple of times in the episode and it is the usage of the ring or the lack thereof. I just don't understand why they aren't doing certain things especially not not only with my small knowledge of the Green Lantern and how they work from animated shows, the comics, etc. But from what we saw in Superman 2000 um with with Guy Gardner, I hopefully you can correct me and shine some light on it. But overall, man, it was a fantastic episode. What are your thoughts? Did you like it? Did you hate it? Are you somewhere in between? Where you at, sir? Where you at? >> This is a great great show. Great change of pace from some of the things HBO has done in the past in terms of like their tent pole event shows such as Game of Thrones and House of the Dragon. This has something for everybody. You don't have to be a comic book fan to really enjoy this show. It is so well done, so written. This episode was juicy. It was spicy. It was sweet. And I loved it. The only thing I gota the only jokes I really have is what do we say about John Stewart's sexuality? Is he alienite? Is he sleeping with a man? What do we say about his sexuality? Because my man done been banging some AI booty a couple of times. >> I don't know. I I don't know, Lamont. We We may have to pump the brakes on there, man. Because like this is a recap, right? And it says that on the on the thumb the title of this video. Lantern. And so usually what that means is that you're going to recap the events that happened in the episode, correct? Is is that okay? I just I just want to make sure. I just want to check because I don't I mean you just talked about the sexuality. I don't know if we can talk about that because the last episode or you know when I was talking about sex, you know, it offended people. You know, one commenters was like, "Hey man, you know this is you know I'm only 20 minutes in Brandon and and you're talking about characters serving each other up." You know, I I I I don't know. I I I don't get it. I mean, in episode one, characters are having sex. In episode four, characters are having sex. And mind you, these characters are having sex are not married. Zoe, who we definitely going to be talking about, you know, she's married, so this is this is infidelity. But when I talk about sexual acts between a husband and a wife who are supposed to have sex, it it just I'm a sexist and I'm approved and I need to grow. So, I I I don't know. I don't know. And the show is TV MA. Hold on. Let me let me make sure. Yes, it says TVMA right here. A mature audience. But I I don't I don't I don't know. Lamont. May maybe you can teach me something. You know, I I I just don't get it that, you know, like the characters can have sex in the show, but I can't talk about it. You know, I maybe you can you can shine. I'm I'm serious, but I'm joking. But I'm joking, but I'm I'm serious. Um, yeah. We g we we gonna we gonna come to that though. Um, but but starting off the I mean, hold on. Am I tripping? Am I am I looking at this the wrong way? I'm being genuine. >> I know I said I was >> just let it go. >> You should just let it go because nothing that you have said or done is misogynistic. No one is going no one who's been following you for so many years is going to ever accuse you of such things. um whoever are making those accusations are being a little sensitive because the show includes sex. What we're not supposed to talk about why are you watching the show if you don't want sex discussed? >> I mean so yeah, you got to let that go, man. Those are not criticisms in support of your work. >> You know, I I try to be myself, you know. Uh I usually have my reviews, recaps, etc. PG-13, but I try to match the show. Like, if a show or a movie is PG-13, I'm gonna keep my dialogue, my my vernacular to PG-13, but if it's Reddit R MA, you know, I'mma match that. They they dropped about 20 fbombs in this episode, so I may drop a fbomb in this. You know what I'm saying? So, that's just the way I I I look at things, you know. Um, I I'm I'm being I'm I'm my commentary there the last 60 seconds or so was a mix between me actually being genuine and sarcastic cuz uh I was very confused by that. So, uh I'm not trying to sound like an ass and at the same time I understand that even if I've been doing this for 20 years, every video I produce is an introduction to somebody else. So, I don't know. But I just kind of had to uh address that. Um, but I also let me ask you this. Um, I had a nitpick because I said that episode 3 should have been episode 1 and there's some people was like, I love the placement of the episode and that's fine. I mean, it still worked out, but you know, from the end of episode two where was visiting Sinestro on planet OA, we're assuming, and then episode 3 jumps back to Jon's origin as a child. And then we get to follow up with him visiting Sinestro at the beginning of this. I still feel like it would have been better overall if it was all told linear. But, you know, that's just my two cents. Do you agree or disagree? Do you like the placement of the episodes the way they are, or do you think that the end of episode two should have went right into the events of episode 4 with Howal visiting Sinestro? And also, I'm sorry, also tell me your commentary on that meeting at the very beginning of this episode too, uh, with Sinestro telling how that, hey, you got to kill um, John Stewart, you know, do you respect him? Um, you know, the manipulation and, you know, Hal was Hal is mad. Hal is clearly upset that uh, Sinestro went to the dark side. Uh, you know, he can tell by the way he's talking to him. So yeah, if you can break down all that and uh I I would love to hear your thoughts, sir, cuz I thought this was an amazing opening scene to this episode. >> It was it was a great opening scene. They could have put they could have put this scene anywhere after episode one really. Um I'm I'm I'm fine with the way the sequence went. I might would have switched episode three and put it in place of episode two, but other than that, I've been perfectly fine with it. I do like that they're having open with Sinestro because that was his mentor, >> right? >> You know, he he he was one of the people Hal looked up to. Absur is the one that gave Hal the ring, but guess who taught Sinestro? Absur, right? And so there's a bond with those two and a level of respect be because that person was someone close to both of them. And the fact that Sinestro is basically telling how they're going to replace you. The reason I'm basically in here is because I didn't want to do everything the Guardians wanted me to do. And at the moment, it seems like Sinestro has the same goals as the Guardians, but he wanted to take it more of a Malcolm X approach versus the Martin Luther King. He wanted to go by any means necessary, even if I got to use the yellow fear element. He even said a line of that, you know, fear is one of the strongest uh motivators in the world, blah blah blah. And you could tell that Hal was a little rattled. And I like seeing Hal a little rattled because he's oftentimes trying to be the wise ass and seem like he's all in control. He even said, "I'm always right." Well, you won't right this time or you wouldn't have went to Sinestro for answers. >> That's true. >> And not only that, but you got answers that you wasn't expecting to get. You didn't go there to hear about John Stewart. You went there to hear about Manhunters. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and man, that was a hell of a reveal uh at the end of this. Who do you think is leaking the information to Sinestro because it's like, how the hell do you even know about John Stewart? He was like, my, you know, my trainee has a trainee, so don't you think that information like that is going to make its way back up to me? I mean, cuz how many aliens are on planet Earth right now that could, you know, provide this information? Um, I have no idea even with the episode ending with the reveal that we're going to get to. That does get me excited to, you know, see how the rest of this season or this new DC universe is going to unfold because there has to be other players on the earth that we are just not aware of right now. And so um I I mean every as any show each episode is peeling back a layer, but this is just seems so in much more interesting uh than the average cuz I mean this is just like show is just freaking fantastic, man. I'm I'm just like at the edge of my seat, >> you know, with with everything. And so um I I I love it. I love it. And also we find out that Hal is not an idiot. He knows that he's not training just a traininee or a backup. He's training his replacement. And that could usually uh throw a wrench in between Howal and Jon's relationship. But it seems like well until the the the actual end of this episode cuz I think that episode 5 uh when Jon comes too, he needs to be whooping How's ass for, you know, running into that pole. But they really did bond in this episode. uh which I didn't expect because I I kind of just thought it was going to go in a completely opposite direction with the way it started off with uh Sinestro telling him that uh you know you need to betray your um you know your your counterpart you're a trainee and I also like the fact that Sinestro was honest just like hey he's like how was like hey is this the you know you I'm sorry Sinestro was like uh no how was like does he listen to orders or no all he does is follow orders. Sinestra was like, "Well, he can be easily controlled. You know, he's going to be overly confident and arrogant and you can manipulate him." And he said, "Is that how you manipulated me?" He's like, "No, no, no, sir. I kept it real from Jump Street. I was always who I I was. My ambition was to be a threat. You just failed to see it." And that that I know that hurt how's feelings as well. But I still like the honesty right there. You know, even though Sinestro is evil and he's a bad guy, I still have a level of respect for him because he's just being so honest and upfront and transparent. Uh that may change if we get into some more backstory with him later on in the season or future seasons in this new universe. But um I'm I'm like I'm Sinestro is coming through. He he's coming through and I I feel like we barely scratched the surface uh with his character. So um you know within the first five minutes I'm like hell yeah. This right here is good. you know, uh, [laughter] reminds me of the the black guy from, uh, Coming to America when, uh, they was at that that banquet. But no, man, uh, right after that, we get John going into like a a pawn shop store trying to get a scope. And this is where we get a little bit of his personality, you know? He's like, "Hey, man. I need a scope, you know, we it's a package deal. Oh, all right. I I'll get the scope and the gun." And as he's walking out, he's like, "Okay, you guys are great." I was laughing like, "Where is this personality coming from?" Um, is that is that working for you? Do you like the personality, the charisma that we're starting to see with John? He was on the water tower as well, cracking jokes and stuff like how how you feeling about this this new uh face of John Stewart uh that that we got to see in this episode so far. >> Yeah, I like it because it's not like it's bust your gut humor. It's dry humor and he's been dry for the most part. So, I'm perfectly fine with it and I think it fits and let's let's just keep this thing 100 even though MAGA don't want to hear it. That scene in that store was clearly a tinge of racism. Simple and plain. Just simple and plain. You could have gave that man that scope and made more money than making a man pay for the whole gun >> and then he grabbed that sandwich and you know he's a vegan so he ain't going to eat the meat. And I thought that was pretty funny. kind of in your face and I was waiting for one of them to do something stupid and try to, you know, pop him in the back of the head or something, but we ain't getting none of that kind of action. Maybe that's in the outtakes. But I'm liking this. I'm liking the way John is becoming. He's starting to get a little confidence in being a lantern. And um there's just going to be more to come, folks. More to come. This is one of the best Green Lanterns that they ever had. It's one of the best black comic heroes we've ever seen. And the more they do with him, the more I can't wait to see how they push this character. DC might have found their Black Panther. >> Right on. They might have. They might have. They might have. Now, if you go over to Google real quick, I typed in Well, we got John right here at the Watchtower with the scope. And I a the episode is titled The Weenie. And John explained it, but I want to go even further. A weenie is an architecture and design in a prominent visual landmark or structure intentionally placed to draw people's attention and guide their movements through a space. Of course, they did reference Disney Walt Disney idea. Walt Disney coined the term after noticing how he could lead his family dog lady around using a hot dog as a treat. Applying it to design, he realized that a large eye-catching architectural structure could act the same way, acting as a visual carrot on his stick to coax visitors through the theme park. And I like how they used it as well. Um, also we got another joke from uh John Stewart here uh when showed up cuz he's like, "Wait a minute. You've been to Disneyland?" He was like, "Oh, no. I I've never been to Disneyland. Uh, it's the happiest place on earth." And they said they wouldn't let me in because they said I would it would kill the vibe. Um, I I laughed about that. Uh, h [laughter] how did you break down this scene right here? And like what are your thoughts and things that stood out? Cuz we also going to get to my first nitpick after you uh give your two cents. >> Um, I thought the scene was okay. Um, I just, you know, he was doing his thing. Here comes Howal Jordan playing his white ass right in front of his scope when this man is doing everything the hard way. And, you know, I just kind of feel like you. There's things you could have done with that ring instead of having to use the scope and all the planning they did, but I think this scene was more so to kind of go through the dialogue between the two, break down the weenie, which was the name of this episode, and I thought it was I thought it was decent. And then, of course, they had the little joke in there about flying. Now, normally when Green Lanterns fly people, they don't let them get on their back and none of that. So, they put them in a little bubble and they fly with them. Um, so I was wondering why couldn't we had just got that? Like, you know, go ahead. >> That's my That's my nitpick right there. I mean, I cuz I want cuz at first I was like, man, they are really going out of their way to save money by not using a bunch of effects. But later on in the episode, they did. And I'm just thinking to myself, you don't need to carry John like a baby to go over there. He doesn't need to be in your back. you can just fly over there and create a bubble and and have John fly next to you and Jon doesn't have to be in some compromising beta position with his ass in the air, you know, he can be standing like a Power Ranger as he's so I didn't understand that. >> But also later on in the episode when they um so I'm I'm we're going to be jumping around because that's just the way I want to do it right now. when the satellite came down and supposedly or allegedly killed Zoe. Um, they called Sheriff they what's her name? Sheriff um the the woman was it Carrie I forgot her name. I had the >> I had the freaking thing. Uh Sheriff Carrie Kane they called her. John is uh trying to figure out reverse engine reverse engineer the satellite. They said they're making uh that there was these three companies. All of them had NDA signed over 10 years ago. Two of them was over 30 years ago. And they linked up the slaughter houses to Hector and said, "Okay, hey, this is where he's at. This is not just a kill shot. You know, this is an invitation. It's 95 miles away." They did say 95 miles. So, I'm thinking, why are y'all driving at least an hour and a half to this fac? Well, I I mean um I I don't get it that I mean maybe because you wanted to have some dialogue in the show, but y'all can have dialogue when you flying in the sky. Like why what I mean and what am I missing here? I don't understand why they just want to fly over there. And and same thing, this is my only nitpick. It's just the the lack of the ring is um when John when they figured out, okay, we need to go to Min's facility and >> Mhm. >> uh before John was talking to the Guardian, uh he went and knocked on he was talking to Hal and he said, "Okay, yeah, we got to we got to go over there and talk to him." And he said, "Look, I'm not trying to tell you how to do your job. I'm sure you just want to go over there with your big green fist and smash things up. But there's three watchtowers and they're going to have some snipers and this time they're going to aim for your head. This doesn't make sense to me because yes, they did shoot him in like episode one or two in the shoulder which made him end up in the hospital. But that's because how was being cocky at the time and he also did not have any power in his ring. So you telling me that a Green Lantern, somebody that can compete with Superman, is not able to shield himself from three men with a sniper rifle? Going back to the Superman 2025 movie, at the very end, God Gardner had his ring and he was making constructs, flipping tanks with the flip of flick of a wrist. And so I'm ass Gardner anyway. So, how can God Gardner and Superman, you know, have be so powerful and take out tanks and armies and squadrons with such ease, but they have to dig underground because they are afraid of the three sniper rifles? Like, I I just don't understand that. Um m mind you, after the satellite k allegedly killed Zoe, he put a whole force field over the whole motel. when they was in a slaughter house. He put a whole force field up to stop the blood from getting him, but they're afraid of three, you know. Yeah, they were trying to sneak in there. But still, man, if I had the powers of a Green Lantern, I wouldn't give a damn. You can't do nothing to me if I got a powered up ring. I don't know. Am I missing anything? Let me know, bro. I'm I'm very, very curious. >> Well, the fundamental is they're trying to save money. That's the fundamental. But the way they try to covertly do it with TV is just try to make it seem as though in that scene they wanted to do a couple of things. Number one, they wanted to show you just how powerful John Stewart is going to be because of his intricate detail and making constructs. And then number two, they wanted it to be covert. They didn't want to start the fight outside. And remember, the sheriff pretty much told them, "Don't go in with your fist." So, those are the plot reasons why they did it, but the real reason why they did it is the money. >> I got you. I got you. Um, what do you think about um what do you think about the Guardian showing up in uh John's hotel room? You know, first he's on the phone with his mother, no, with his father and he's like, "Hey man, you know, they want to talk to you talking about the Guardians. I'mma pat you through on the cell phone." And and then, you know, the guardian just ends up teleporting there. They had a conversation. And later on we find out that was recorded. But she's like, "Look, man. Uh, your boy John is tripping. He's going against his oath. He talking about he's smashing aliens in space." No, he went to go see Stinestro and that is problematic. He gives you the ring. So once you get the ring, say the oath, you will be the Green Lantern of Sector 2814. And John hesitated. What do you How do you feel about this scene? How do you feel about this exchange? Do you trust the Guardians? Are they being transparent enough? Are they holding information back? Like, how are you feeling about all that? >> Oh, hell no. They ain't being transparent. No, they want good little soldiers. They just want people that they can tell what to do and they'll do it. Which is one of the problems with people who have ultimate power. They don't want any critical thinking. They don't want you to be able to think on your own. That's one of the problems we have with a lot of folks who vote in America and they vote Republican. You just want to be told what to do and the people who are telling you what to do don't want you to question them. And obviously Sinestro introduced to us that the Guardians can't really be trusted. That everything that they do is not right. And obviously she's doing to John Stewart what Sinestro was doing to Hal. She's pitting John against Hal. in essence telling him, I want you to take out John Stewart and take the ring. But I like the way John Stewart handled this. John Stewart is a even though he's he's a he's he's a follower, he follows command and all that. He obviously has a little respect for Hal or he could have done it and he didn't. >> He could have done it. He did. >> Yeah, he he could have. He could have. Um he had kind of has every right to as well. Um, but I I don't trust the Guardians either. Uh, or maybe I don't want to say the Guardians. I don't I don't trust Lyanna. Um, you know, because I don't I don't know if the you know, the Guardians ever defected like one of them or two of them or all of them. Uh, there's only 12 in the show. I think 11 are left, but I think in the comics of the Lord there's like over 30 or something like that. Um, but yeah, Le I mean, all the Guardians may suck or it may just be Lyanna. I don't know. We're going to see. Uh, I I can't wait to find out. I notice a lot of the times when she's conversing, she she turns her face away. She doesn't keep eye contact that well or as much as I would like. And so, um, I don't I don't I don't think we can, uh, trust her at all. Uh, but we're going to see. We're going to see. I could be wrong. And also, another thing, bro, I love doing these things with you because, you know, to me, you will say something that just seems cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs and then you you'll always end up right. We don't know this yet, but you know, I thought you was like like Lamont, Hal is clearly dead at the end of the first episode. There's a bullet in his head, you know, and there was blood coming down, but as each episode progresses on. I'm like, wait a minute. He still, you know, it may be a fake body, you know, it may be, you know, rip out the heart is crystallized or something like that. I don't know. We're going to have to see. Uh, but I just have to give you some some props, some accolades right there. Uh, but they're at the facility right now trying to sneak into Mon's ranch, going up underground. They're getting to know each other. We already knew the house father passed away. Uh, but this mother passed away as well uh from cancer. And uh Hal is dealing with it. He's just saying that's it's best that way. You know, people die. You have no attachments. And so, you know, you have these two uh teammates here. Hal doesn't have any parents. Uh John does have both of his parents. And it was one question that how I asked that Mayhem lose his concentration in the construct, you know, almost went away. So again, I when we started this recap, um I was saying that they was really bonding um in this episode. Here is a a good example of that. And I love it. Um I do. I do. Uh I don't think that they like each other just yet, but I think that they do uh respect each other. And um you know that's just kind of fascinating to see especially uh you know with one of being black, one of them being white uh with two completely different lifestyles. Um I know some people going to get upset about this but I don't care. You know how it's it's privilege. That doesn't mean that he did not have any struggles. That just means that there was some obstacles that he never had to worry about uh growing up that John did. And you know that's just uh that's just the uh reality. You have any thoughts sir about that and their their tunnel walk their pillow tunnel walk talk? I enjoy man. Look you know sometimes too much exposition gets on my nerve. This show has been spot on with the exposition. I mean spot on. And I enjoyed it because at some point in time we need to see these two do more bonding. And this was the episode that we finally felt as though or seemed as though they was getting on one accord, then they going to ruin it at the end. >> Yeah. Yeah, they really did. Uh Lamont, you work out, man. Do you think you can lift a uh 145? No, not 145. Um but 185 pound kettle bell, >> you know, I knew we was going to talk about that cuz John picked that up and was moving around with it like he's the winner of the CrossFit games. Yes, I can pick up a 185 lb kettle bell just like he did. But I do like that they tried to show he got a little got a little strength in them. I mean, a little bit. And I'm not going to I'm not going to sit here and say >> 185 pounds ain't a lot of weight. You know, there are >> plenty of dudes who can't even do pick up the 150s kettle bells. But I was glad to show that, you know, John, you know, he it's not just that he could pick it up. The way he was handling it lets you know that that boy got some shrimp. >> Yeah. And I as soon as uh as soon as house said he how much you weigh? 185 185 each. I'm like bro stop lying. You know you well over 200 lb. You are not no 185. My my goodness gracious. That's that's silly. Uh right there. Uh y'all let us know what y'all think about that. How do you think about this facility though, man? They had every rifle in in America. They had every technology. They had uh guns with goggles and and black clouds that can that can dampen the Green Lantern powers. Man, they they are ready. Making is ready. He was like, "I told you, man. I am not about to get colonized. My benefactor has been taking care of us." And while while I'm telling this story, here's my penis. I want you to draw me real quick. Oh, you got a good memory. Won't you draw my wife, too? I was like, "Oh, shit." Awkward moment. Uh, break all that down, man. And I I this is one of the scenes I was really looking forward to talking to you about. Go ahead. Go ahead. >> Normally when we have these scenes, bro, we like to talk about the panty draws, not the Spider-Man under roots. This done took off everything. He's sitting up there. Well, what medium do you like to use? You like Charles? What do you >> Bro, >> now shout out to the actor. He's in great shape. And as people in the gym, we recognize the hard work that goes into being in great shape. But bro, we don't need to see all that shape naked. >> You didn't need to have to force this man to draw you naked because at the end of the day, remember, >> he didn't know your wife was married. >> He didn't know. She didn't tell him. So, you can't really blame it on him. And the when she came in, I was wondering how was she going to handle the situation, >> right? >> And she played really, really cool, really, really koi. And I'm thinking to myself, I actually was thinking you you felt more about John Stewart than what you did. And I think me and you figured out in episode two review we did. We've been figured out she had a secret. We we figured that out. She had a secret. >> Yeah. >> I don't know. I didn't Oh, my fault. Go ahead. My fault. >> I was thinking to myself, you know that though when they had the ring, but you do know that those rings, you can summon them like Thor summons his hammer, right? So, that was a nitpick of mine, like, yeah, y'all, you know, just because you put that ring on the table does not mean he can't summon it. >> And I actually thought that um they did a good job of masquerading the power of the ring by having it on John when they came and apprehended them with the black smoke because that wouldn't have been no big deal for Hal Jordan. >> That wouldn't have been no big deal. >> I like put them in a bubble >> and got on through it. But because John is just getting familiar with it, it was something he probably had to think about and before he could think about it, they broke his concentration. >> Right. Right. Yeah. Of course, you know, John is skillful, but you know, Hal does have that experience um in in the field. But what also stood out to me is the reaction to everybody in this room. Um Min, Will Min, he was not worried about them at all. Uh, I mean, my goodness, just to strip down naked like that and be comfortable and just draw me, you know, that just shows uh his level of confidence. How was uncomfortable looking at the naked man, but um John was not. He was like, "Bro, be still, bro. I'm trying to do a good job. Okay, you asked me to draw you. Relax your shoulder to sit down. Stop moving." That's interesting. But but we also got a little bit more of how things have been going down in this Rushville, Nebraska because uh Min says that I had cancer. The benefactor or the boss while they arguing over semantics or the manhunter came in, cured him of his cancer and and lied at the time and said that his wife Zoe was the nurse and she just assisted. says that the crops were growing. Nobody's in the hospital at all. You know, he took care of us. And I'm just like, okay, is the manhunter good or bad? You know, they've been painting him as the bad guy, but if he's, you know, saving people from cancer, like, what is the real end goal here? You know, we know that that's going to play into uh that's going to pop off into um some big reveal um later on as well. Um and they kept saying he he he he. Do you have any other thoughts there about, you know, how that played out and what it could, you know, turn into later on in the season or is this just it right here? >> Well, no. There's going to be some more ties to this because you mentioned something that a lot of people are probably overlooking. Who is the connection to Sinestro in jail? >> Yes. Now, the person the person or persons that I think are the group connected to Sinestro are the folks trying to track down this manhunter because they are going about this by any means necessary and they've got technology to kind of handle the business. So, I think that they're probably the ones getting information to Sinestro. Sinestro's, you know, back and forth with them. And one of those individuals that's threatening to blow up the manhunter winds up becoming a lantern in a red ring. >> And him and Sinestro was buddies at one point in time. So I believe that's who's pumping information back to Sinestro. And when ultimately the showdown comes, if it seems as though they couldn't handle the threat, those two are probably going to team up and that's when you're going to see some more Lanners pop on the scene of different >> and it could be atrocities. Uh I know there's been a lot of speculation there. >> Um and also the last two episodes the the title card was not green when it said Landers. It was yellow. And I never I don't I don't see anybody else talking about that. So, um, that's quite interesting as well cuz I don't I don't like to watch other people's reviews or reactions before I give mine because you can subconsciously kind of talk like mimic what they say. Um, you know, so I try I try not to do that. Uh, but I I did dip into uh some other a couple of other recaps. Uh, you know, just cuz it's just such an entertaining show, you know. But they leave uh Miss uh uh Sheriff uh Carrie Kane, she comes and saves day. She's pissed off like, "Y'all need to stay your asses here. I will tell you what to do." She gives John a shotgun. That's some true trust right there. Hey, I'm I'm going to give you my the biggest gun I have in the truck. How you don't need one, you know, cuz you're a superhero. Y'all need to chill out, okay? Y'all doing too much. And then guess who pops up? Miss Zoe. Miss Zoe. Miss Zoe. Miss Zoe. And she doesn't want to just talk. She wants to do something else. Um, I don't like this relationship between them. One, because she's married. Two, because I I I mean, I don't want to sound like a hater, but I just think they could have did a much better job. If John is going to have a love interest, I I just think they could have been more realistic. You know, it be it'd be different if it was just kind of wham bam, thank you, ma'am. But he apparently really likes her. Am I tripping or or how you feeling about all that? And they Yes, they had sex. >> Yeah, I don't think he really liked her. I just think he likes having sex with it. I mean, if you are an if you are a robot and you're designed to please and comfort, you know, whatever your I don't want to just say humans because they've done other aliens, too. If you are designed to do that, that experience is going to probably be the most out of this world figuratively and literally experience of sex you're going to have. So, I don't think he was in love with her. He didn't even Well, I ain't going to say that yet, but I don't think he's in love with her. I think he's in love with the sex. And she basically told him it's okay because my husband knows I'm doing this. um that still don't mean it's okay, you know, really on his end. But if a spouse says, "My husband knows, he's okay with it, and you just went to the spouse. He didn't tell you no. He just made you draw his penis. I mean, what is he supposed to do?" Um, you know, and you've been dealing with Howal Jordan. You need to get your rocks on, bro. You need to get some stress out of there. But at the same time, at the same time, I think John was playing the intel game, too, >> you know, cuz he put a little in her tail >> and he get some intel. >> So, I think that's a little bit of what he was doing on top of getting his rocks off and she was trying to do the same thing. And that dialogue they had while in bed about he don't trust nobody, not even her, spot on, man. That's exactly what a woman want to hear after you done got her petty draws. >> Are you being sarcastic or for real? >> Very sarcastic. No woman wants to hear you don't trust me. >> Okay. Okay. Yeah. Okay. [laughter] >> After a woman, unless she's doing it for money or for a gain, and that's what Zoe is doing it for. No woman wants to hear after that moment of vulnerability, you don't trust me. >> Right. Right. Right. Yeah, man. So, she she pulled up, man. did her thing and she dipped like, "All right, I'm not going to spend a night, you know, I just I just want a little something real quick." And she goes outside and we think that she blows up. One of them of my favorite scenes is how just fast it happened. Howal comes outside. Where did it come from? 45 degree just point and then he just flew up. I was like, "Oh, this this this is nice. This is nice. I like it. I like the the the sense of urgency here, man." And then he comes down uh with this satellite right here. this badass all around. Uh, I love it. I love also also right after that they got he got the whole force field over the over the whole motel complex. I'm like, yes. >> Excuse me. I'm sorry. This is the this is the usage of the ring that makes sense and that I want to see, you know, uh, full powered up. And so, I'm I'm loving all this right here. I mean, it's making a whole bunch of sense. And so, uh, what was your thoughts when you saw Zoe blow up? I was thinking to myself, man, that was staged. I knew it. Like, yeah, there's no way that she's blown up. And and the fact that they let that happened to her was the the was the answer for me because, you know, I already had my suspicions about who she really was anyway. >> And when that happened, just after she came and gave up the the the draws to John, I said to myself, this is a complete misdirect. the husband would not dare blow her up. Either they figured out she's the thing and they got her for real or she escaped and it wind up being the latter. >> Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Yeah, man. Um I thought she was actually dead. Um I was like, man, that's kind of easy, but um and John's reaction was quite interesting around that, too, cuz I was like, why are you not like you're not shocked? You're not like, "Oh my god." You're not like running over there trying to see if >> you know there's a body, even though it was an explosion. So, but I I mean, honestly, I mean, I was suspicious, but I still wasn't able to put it together um until the end of the episode. And even when they're in the motel, I like the detective work like, "Wait a minute, man. Do you think that we can just solve the case this easy in a motel room? You know, this is an invitation." So, I like that. Now, we already talked about them driving there, which was stupid and and didn't make sense. They could have flown over there. Um, >> I know, man. They killing me with that. >> Yeah, but they but they show up to the Oh, and I I got to touch on this, too, just more on John's personality. Sorry. after he got done talking to the guardian in the hotel room when she was like, "Hey, uh, Hal has been giving reports about you saying that you lack creativity, but then when he showed up to John's motel door and gave him the drawing of the drill, he was like, "Oh, you just drew this real quick." He was like, "Yeah, I'm creative." That little jab in his face right there, I I did laugh. I liked his personality. But [clears throat] anyway, they they show up to the slaughter house, man, and these workers are being weird. They like, "Hey, man. I got to, you know, I got kids to feed at home. I can't be messing with nobody. I got to mess up these cows. But when they get into the room where the cow is destroyed, you notice that the cow came through in that black portal on the wall that expanded like some clay. That was the same piece of technology that I think was in episode one or two where John jumped, no, episode two where John jumped through the floor and fell on the mattresses through the mall. And so what how do you think those two are linked? cuz one of the guardians was using it and then and then uh Hector or at one of Makin's slaughter houses they was using that too. Like what? And also laughed about the joke that John made like, "Oh, that's why I'm vegan." But h how do you feel those things are connected? Because it did seem like it was the same technology. Oh, it's definitely the same technology and they are interconnected, but you got to keep in mind the Manhunters were created by the Guardians and a lot of the technology that the Guardians had, the Manhunters have. Now, it's just a matter of do we have a rogue guardian secretly working with a manhunter. I could see them twisting that story like that because we've had rogue guardians in the past that hated the manhunters, tried to destroy the manhunters. Then we've had rogue guardians go off and try to use utilize other lanterns to do the same job but wind up becoming evil. So it it crosses those bounds and I just wonder will they meet in the middle and it be a rogue lantern working with this rogue manhunter. >> Right on. Uh we we'll see. We'll see. Y'all let us know of course what y'all think in that comment section. But Lamont, this is my favorite scene in the whole episode right here. This was intense because I was nervous. >> I was nervous because, you know, you got you got a marine and a lantern walking in unscathed and then you got this nerdy poexter looking character right here with so much confidence just going away on his computer. Haha, here's the code. Up, down, up, like refight babba. Yes, your address. This is your your parents address. Uh yeah, I'm going they're going to be blown up in 3 minutes. You're already seeing what I'm capable of. And he was just so sure of himself. Like I I got this in the bag. If y'all don't do what I'm going what I'm saying, you know, you're all going to die. But then how just didn't give a crap either. He was just like, I think you're crap. I think you're BS. I think you're uh a decoy. And just the dialogue going back and forth and the music, the score. And then he's like, "There's like 60 seconds left or something like that or his parents are going to die." And he said, "You know what? I'm fine with that right there." You know, uh it it wasn't an issue. But after I heard the recording of John talking crap about me, you know, hey, f his parents, they do need to die cuz that's what he gets. And also, I think a hero's journey begins when a parent dies anyway cuz that's a lot of motivation. I thought about Batman as well because that's how his parents I was like, "Oh my gosh." Like, you know, you're right. This is crazy. And then uh uh John uh believed him like, "Bro, what the f are you doing?" You know, if you don't tell me this in 10 seconds, I'mma kill you. F the clock over there. And then John is screaming at him like, "How stop." I was like, "Stop. Stop." And like every everybody is so serious. John is serious uh telling him to stop. How is trying to stand his ground? Hector's trying to stand his ground. I'm like, "Oh my gosh, how is this going to play out? I don't know." And it it was it was incredible. Favorite scene of the whole episode. How you feeling about it, man? Do Do you Oh, not only that, as soon as he put the code in, John is like, "Hey, what if he was wrong?" He's like, "Man, I'm never wrong. My instinct is right." He took a deep breath. All right. Okay. Who are you? Speak. And slammed his head on the table. I was like, "Oh shit." This is the most emotion, the biggest reaction we have seen from John this whole series. This is fantastic. I loved it. How you feeling about it, man? How you feeling? >> I loved it, man. I was right there with you. It was very intense. Um, I like the acting from everybody in the room and I love how Hal just put his foot down and they always go back to show you that even though they they bent him a little bit to have us thinking, should we second guess Howal, >> Hal really knows what he's doing. He's been on this he's he's been the space cop on the beat for so many years. His gut is usually right. And this was another instance of that and I was glad to see it. >> Yeah, I was too, man. I I was too. And they uh they was getting their bonding on at the end uh while they was riding the car. Um I liked how everything came out because it's like, "Wait a minute. I I had to put my my I had to think about this, John. You got real freaked out when you thought your parents was going to die, but you did not get freaked out when you thought Zoe died. You You don't think that she's dead. You think that she's alive. And I trusted you. I forgave you, but why aren't you telling me? and are you communicating with the guardians? He was like, "Well, I thought so, but I wasn't sure and I didn't want to say anything and jump to conclusions." And he says that the guardians, not the guardians, but the the uh the benefactor or the manhunter comes in and exploits people's weaknesses. Can you think of anybody that has done that to you? We know that he was talking about Zoe and we know that John was thinking about Zoe, but he still lied and said making cuz he just wasn't sure. And um I I I like how that came out like no it's not Will, it's it's Zoe over here. She is the she's the manhunter. Um you know, she kind of tricked us all. We we kind of figured it out. Um but then he smashes into the the telephone pole. Uh what are your thoughts there and how everything was revealed and and came out um you know to reveal itself. What are your thoughts? >> Amazing way to do it. And and then after it seemed like it was a kumbaya moment. He was basically like f you negro and jumps out the car >> because he doesn't want him to follow. He wants to slow him down from being able to pursue what he's about to do. I just like man wow. Like, and I'm with Be Avery audience. When John Stewart get his stuff back together, it should be a ass whipping coming to Hal. He should take that ring right off of him and beat him with his own damn ring. >> Yeah, >> that was I mean, come on, man. You can do better than that. Like, stop all this hazing hard le bull drive when I just told you I could have took the ring from you if I wanted to and I didn't. That should give you a whole lot of grace, but it didn't. >> Yeah. Yeah. He definitely needs his ass whooped. I still don't fully understand like what he was trying to accomplish with that other than being a dick. Uh but I would love everyone's two cents. Also, in the car, he called Anton and was like, "Hey, man. We figured out who the man hunter is. You know, meet us outside the cafe. Uh it's going down." And you know, they probably had 30 hours, 24 hours left. And so I I can't wait to episode five, man. And do do you trust Anton and the other aliens that are actually looking for the the manhunter? How do you feel about them? Cuz we just heard them on the phone. >> Uh I do I do believe that they want the manhunter, but I don't fully trust everything they up to. No. Um and like I said, I think they in cahoots with Sinestro. So no, I don't trust them. And that's one of the points of why did what he did. So there's, you know, he's going to go and wind up meeting um that group of that group of manhunter searchers and John Stewart is not going to be there. And that was one of the points of what how why did what he did. So it's about to be it's we about to get into some a lot of ring use coming up my brother. So just batten down the hatches. >> Yeah man. Batten down the mother freaking hatches. Uh Lamont, are those your final thoughts sir? >> Those are my final thoughts man. HBO and FX do a good job of finding some of the best TV shows we've ever seen. >> Yes sir. I do agree. I do agree. Well, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, we do appreciate you tuning in. Uh, but that is going to wrap it up for our lanterns, uh, episode 4 titled The Weenie, and we will be here same time, same place for the next episode. Let's see if they put it up. They did not. Uh, but we will be back. 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