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In the third episode titled "Outcast," John Stewart is chosen as the new Green Lantern following a misunderstanding about Hal Jordan's status, sparking significant online debate regarding the show's focus on race and equality. The hosts defend these themes by emphasizing that John Stewart's comic book origins have always centered on racial identity, arguing that ignoring such issues reflects a lack of intelligence rather than valid criticism. While the episode is praised for its execution, it faces some critique for its non-linear storytelling structure, which delays revealing John's origin story until this installment instead of placing it earlier in the series. The narrative heavily features the hosts' strong dislike for John's mother, Bernadette, and Hal Jordan initially, citing Bernadette's behavior as that of an unfaithful wife and neglectful mother who prioritizes her newborn over her husband and son. Specific grievances include her refusal to believe John despite proof of his powers on the news, her dismissal of his alien visitors, and her attempt to kick him off the ring; similarly, Hal is condemned for dishonorably discharging John after a nine-month mission in Russia where John survived on minimal resources only for Hal to intervene and ruin John's record. Additionally, favoritism toward John during a birthday scene, where he receives a Green Lantern suit while his siblings are ignored, leads to sibling resentment, though Bernadette eventually redeems herself by encouraging John to choose himself and supporting his artistic dreams. The discussion also delves into the unauthorized use of John's ring on Earth, debating whether his reconnaissance mission justifies the action or if it constitutes overstepping jurisdiction. Hal Jordan's hostile reaction upon returning home is interpreted as a standard "tough love" training tactic common in comics, although one host speculates it might be a misdirect to set up a future conflict where John must defeat Hal after he turns yellow. The hosts express disagreement on whether Hal will succumb to Parallax or become a Yellow Lantern, noting theories that Parallax could be an evil alien or part of the Yellow Corps, while also highlighting questions about the Guardians' trust in Hal due to his continued respect for his former mentor Sinestro. Despite these initial hostilities and relationship flaws with John's parents, the episode concludes with hints of John's growing power, allowing him to create constructs without the ring. The segment wraps up by acknowledging that while the episode had specific narrative drawbacks, it was generally well-received by audiences. Viewers are encouraged to subscribe to the hosts' various channels for more content, and there is significant anticipation for Episode 4, which is expected to feature the introduction of the Yellow Lantern ring and further developments in John's journey.
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Hey, what's going on? Me and Lamont are back. I'm screaming for lanterns. Episode three, titled Outcast. When his father, what does that say? Oh gosh darn it. When his father misinterprets the Guardians contact, Jon becomes the next choice for Green Lantern. After years of preparation, he finally gets to interview with the Guardians. Now, of course, we are talking spoilers over here. If you haven't seen the episode, turn away. Go watch it. Come back. Get all this spoilery goodness. But this episode came out a few days ago. We're just now giving you our recap. And that's all good. Lamont, um, this episode has strung up a lot of ruckus online in the comment section, in the threads. Some people love it, saying, "Man, this is the best episode of this season." Uh uh HBO Max, they can't miss. We got Lanterns. We got Welcome to Dairy. We got um what was it? A Penguin. You know what I'm saying? The Clayface is coming out soon. Oh my god. But some people like, "Oh my god, why you got to bring up race? Why you [ __ ] on Hal Jordan? Why are you saying he's privileged? Oh, whoa." Anyway, uh how are you feeling about the episode, man? Are you um you more on the right, you more on the left? somewhere in the middle. How you feeling, sir? How you feeling? >> I ain't never going to be in the middle and I damn sure ain't going to never be on the far right. This was a fantastic episode and the individuals who are always complaining about whenever stories go into equality, the issues black people deal with, oftent times they obviously haven't read the source material. And I'm not saying that you need to read the source material to understand the plight of black people in today's society, you dumb asses. You are the people that ruin TV and movie experiences because you're so worried about anything that you feel is woke, which highlights your stupidity because being woke means you are of knowledge. You're intelligent. And you sitting up here calling somebody not woke shows how stupid you are. But in the comics, one of the main story arcs for John is his fight against racism in the military, in his home life, he introduces to the Guardians the issue that we have race problems in America because they are obtuse to it just like they did in this episode. I am loving the actor playing John Stewart more and more and more. And this was a fantastic episode. HBO usually don't miss and the show is still great. And if you got a problem with them introducing the issues that black people go through because you want to hide it, then go watch something else. Go watch Barbie cuz that's what it sounds like y'all want to do. Get your panties in the water. Go watch Barbie. >> Yeah, man. And uh as you just mentioned, uh I just went to Google John Stewart's origin and comics having have race issues. Uh let me make this even bigger. Yes, John Stewart's comic book origins and history have always dealt directly with race and black identity, a theme that recently sparked heavy debate following a unique backstory adaptation in the TV's lanterns. Debut in politics when John Stewart first appeared in Green Lantern 87 in 1971 before most of you cryb babies were born. his creator Denny O'Neal and artist Neil Adams explicitly designed him as a headstrong raceconscious architect. So you can read and Google that yourself. Uh but that's just a little context um for meaning that your argument doesn't make sense. And so, um, you know, >> even if even if they don't know that, the fact that you have an attitude that we are bringing up race issues, whether you know the backstory or not, it's still a problem for them, >> right? >> That's a problem. >> I agree. I agree. I just wanted to add some more gasoline to the fire. Um, you know, and torch their ass. Uh, but that's one thing, Lamont. Um, how did I feel about the episode? I thought it was fantastic as well. There was one character that I hated pretty much until the very end. I I couldn't We gonna talk about it. Oh, they were driving me up a goddamn wall, grinding my gears. I I I It really was disgusting to me. >> I know who it is. >> Um they turned over a new leaf towards the end of the episode, the final two scenes they showed him. I was like, "God dang, filing, you came around and has some senses. Do you have a heart?" Apparently, you do now. Uh, but I was upset and I do have I'm going to go ahead and give my nit that's a strong criticism I have even though they kind of save theirelves at the end. Um, but my one nit even though I I I probably give the episode a nine out of 10. Um, but I still have a nitpick. My nitpick is the order of episodes. I wish we would have got this in episode one and then episode one would have been episode two and then episode two would have been episode three. Um maybe they didn't want to do that because they're like, "Okay, if this is episode one, it will turn off too many people and they won't come back. You know, we won't get the 9.3 million views or however they did." So maybe that was a strategy. I don't know. I'm making it up. I'm speculating. But towards the end of this, I was just and with all the jump cuts and the timelines and the the 1980s 90s, uh, 2016, 2026, I was like, man, even though I really did enjoy this, I would have liked it much more if they would have put this episode as instead of this being episode 3, it would have been episode one. Another thing is, and it kind of ties into it, is I don't mind uh backstories. Um, I don't mind nonlinear stories, but at the same time, this episode to me did not necessarily push the story forward at all. We just went backwards. It was still executed nice, great with precision, but again, it's just the order of episodes because at the end of episode two, it's the last scene is how flying off Earth, going across the galaxy to planet OA, going into the prison cell of Sinestro. He's like, "Hey man, what's up with the uh the manhunters?" And then Sinestro is like, "Well, hey, tell me about who is this John Stewart guy?" So, I'm like, "Oh, snap. How in the world is Sinestro across the freaking galaxy locked in a cell? How do you know about John Stewart? So, I'm thinking at the very beginning of episode 3, we're going to be diving deep into the lore. We're going to be getting into the trenches and finding out all this about Sinestro and the Galactic Empire and whatever, but we don't get any of that. we go backwards in the story to get John's um his origin, which again was great, but the way I just explained it, I I just would I wished it would have been in a different order, more uh more linear. Um do you do you see what I'm saying? You understand where I'm coming from? You agree? You disagree? Uh how you feeling about all that? You you're muted. You're muted. audience. Uh, B, forgive me for that. I'm halfway in the middle. I would have liked for this episode. I'm fine with where it's at, but if I would have placed it, I would have placed it number two. And for me, it does push the story forward because we know the deeper, darker motivations of Jon at this point. We know why he's going to be one of the best Green Lanterns ever. We have an idea of why this man is going to be able to wield the power without even needing the ring because of his backstory, because of what he went through, because of the torture and the lies from his mama, because of what how Jordan did to him. We have a great understanding of that. And in the future when he's able to overcome certain things because of his will and his lack of fear, we know what that was all about. So, I was fine with all that, but I would have liked to have had some of those questions answered that you just mentioned. Um, you know, maybe they could have done a cut scene to some of that stuff in this episode. But I'm not knocking the episode. I'm with you. I give it a 9.5 out of five. And I love how they weave the title of the episode with the big homies in Atlanta, Outcast. >> Okay. I thought you was about to say something else. Um, I I do too. That episode does have I mean the episode the title does have dual meaning. What I was smiling at just now is you notice when they pulled up the title call for lanterns it wasn't green it was yellow. Did you notice that? Yeah. >> I haven't heard anybody else talk about that you know and yellow is the the the color of fear. And I was like oh and it kind of makes more sense why the show is called lanterns instead of green lanterns. But uh you told me that you know who I'm talking about. Who am I talking about that I didn't like in the show or the the character at first? >> It's only two people. It's only two people it could be. >> Either John Stewart's mama or Hal Jordan. It's the only two people it could be. >> It was uh yeah, Bernardet. Uh John Stewart's mother. I could not stand her. I thought she was a horrible wife. I thought she was a horrible mother. Um she she got I I was furious, bro. I was like, "Woman, you are disgusting." Like, and it was making sense to me because I was watching the episode and I'm like, "Okay, she's here now, but where was she at the very beginning?" Now, I thought that John killed her on accident because I'm I'm jumping forward when she was like, "Okay, let's go practice again. I'm going to go get your daddy so you can shoot the apple off." And he was like, "No, I want to shoot it off you." I was like, "Damn, since she wasn't in the first episode, she's probably dead. He killed his mom right here on accident. I'm glad that didn't happen. And we got those answers later. But the reason why I did not like her, first of all, as far as her um her spousal responsibilities, excuse me. I'm so sorry. Excuse me. I couldn't help it. I couldn't reach the mute. But I'm so sorry. Excuse me. Excuse me. Excuse me. Why do you not believe your husband? Why do you not have faith in your husband? You are supposed to be your husband's number one cheerleader and have his back no matter what. And you going to jump on the bandwagon on the train of everybody uh reprimanding your husband, calling him crazy, and you don't believe him. Okay, y'all are in the bed. You, the one of your sons, Marcus or the other one starts crying. You go out and try to tend to your child. He is scared by the the ring of the lantern floating him up. You come back, he on the side of the bed hyperventilating, sweating and stuff. You trying to wonder what's going on. We cut to the He said, "Oh, baby, the all that stuff." We cut to the next scene. He's shooting TVs and stuff like that. Okay, Bernardet, I will give you some grace. I will give you the benefit of the doubt here. And like, yeah, your husband can't be shooting TVs in the house with the kids around. That's dangerous. That's problematic. I will give you that. But and even if your husband did sound crazy when he first tried to explain it to you, I'll give you that, too. But Lamont, the proof is in the mother freaking pudding on the television that he shot. When he was when when when he was going through it that night, baby, I don't know what happened, but an alien or a green ring or green bubble floated me out, asked me if I'm scared. I said I was scared and it flew away. So then later on, how Jordan is debuted on the news and discloses information, the exact same information, the exact same dialogue that your husband described, and you still don't believe him. It's on the freaking news. He's in costume with the mask on showing the powers. At that point in time, you should have been like, "Oh my gosh, baby, I am so sorry. Uh, please forgive me." How is that not proof enough? You know that your husband does not know this man how Jordan that they're not pulling some farce or joke or anything like that. That alone him popping up on the news and saying I'm a new hero. The ring came to me and asked me if I'm afraid. I said no. I'm fearless. I am as steadfast now as I was then. The exact same thing your husband explained to you happened to him. But you don't believe him. I I I was I was like, "What the crap? What the f is going on? That's one thing, Lamont. On top of that, a white lady pops up at your house in the middle of the night, giving you diamonds as big as our fist, explaining everything. And hey, you know, uh, I'm an alien. I'm a guardian, and we heard that our process is not perfect. We never had a lantern on Earth, and we heard that our process is kind of sending people, you know, giving them PTSD. That right there should have been the second confirmation. I don't believe you. You just seem like some unfortunate random white lady on my porch. She grows up. I mean, yeah. Um, the lantern gets big and shows you that she's a lantern. And then what makes it worse when she fin she is, she kicked John off. Okay, they're going through marital issues right now. They beefing. John is not sleeping in the bedroom. He's sleeping on the couch. Why the f you got your husband sleeping on the couch? And she said, "Hey, the alien came over a few days ago. Why is it taking you a few days to tell him? Like, are you [ __ ] serious? Are you I'm I'm like, I try to keep you PG-13, but I'm This is insane. And we haven't even got to the way that she's treating John yet. That's three strikes right there, Lamont. Am am I crazy? Am I missing anything? You know, did I turn my head and it was a a thing of dialogue that popped up that explained her whole mindset and psyche or something? Did I watch the wrong Did I watch the the the rough cut and I didn't get the final version where they had an extra scene explaining all of her BS? I I hated her, bro, for that, bro. Horrible, horrible, horrible wife based off that. We And again, we haven't even got to the mother. I'm I'mma calm down and take a chill here. But am I making sense? Do you understand where I'm coming from? Please let me know. >> I understand where you coming from. And there's so much to unpack in what you just said. I think the writers did a good job of dealing with the fact that in our society for a woman to do the things she did in this story makes it feel more heinous than what a man would feel doing almost as if it's expected for a man to behave like she's behaving, not a woman to do it. And then on top of that, you add in that she's of minority race doing this type of craziness. It really drives the dagger in your back. However, I want to give a shout out to the actress playing badass Bernardet. Sis, this is my first time seeing you. And all I can say is you is a top 50 finest that ever walked planet Earth immediately. Your acting fantastic. Your dramatization of being a psychotic parent. Fantastic. Your facial expressions in moments where we needed to know that you were scared. Fantastic. Everything you did made me hate you about as bad as Be Avery hate you. I'm just being honest with you. Your finest can't get you out of this one. Sorry. You took a household of boys and a man. You got the R&B group Boys the Men in your house and you basically was trying to get rid of all of them. You was trying to off all of them if not physically mentally when your husband needed support from you instead of being there for him. You wasn't. And maybe it was because you had the new baby. Maybe it was because your hormones was off. You was busy worried about the new baby and the other kids. Either way, when times gets tough, you still have a relationship. you have to commit your all to no matter what the circumstances are. This is your family. You don't abandon them. And you abandon them and then when your feelings got hurt and you find out that your husband was right, he didn't get the opportunity. Now all of a sudden you want to put this burden on your kid and basically force feed him into not having fear by doing all these eccentric different things to make him become tough. You ruined that boy's childhood. And what if he would have never became a lantern? >> Yeah. Yeah. I I I agree. And not not only that, man. Uh going back to the husband when she came when he was on the couch and they made the decision like, "Okay, we got to train John." Before that, man, she gave him some whack ass halfbaked apology. I'm sorry people are seeing you like this. And I'm I'm I'm sorry as well that I didn't believe you, man. I I I'm I'm the same. You need to be on your knees serving him up for breakfast, lunch, and dinner while cooking him breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Bending over, you know, uh uh giving him breakfast, lunch, and dinner in every room on the house. I mean, it it this is awful. Um I could have sworn it was divorce, but we see that they was to still together at the very end. Uh but she was awful, man. Um I I didn't like her. Now, so if I pissed anybody off, oh well, she did redeem herself at the end of the episode to where um she tried to ex I can't remember the scene. Well, it was so many scenes where well, not so many, but basically when um she was telling John that he needs to choose himself basically like, you know, as a black person, you got to raise your own hand and choose yourself. Don't let them choose you. Now, that was a beautiful scene. I was saying to myself, "Thank you for being a loving, caring, nurturing mother." Okay. Um, also when John was grown and she was like, you know, you wasted my electricity and all that. That was he was an adult then. Um, that was a nice scene between them, too. But prior to that, bro, even when um John, not John, the father shot the apple off of his head the first time. We first of all we see that that was John's idea and not the parents. So that made me feel an infinite amount of times better. Um but I was critical of the father uh played by um um uh John Senior uh Mr. Jay Alons I was critical of him as at first in the first episode when I when he was shooting apples off the tree. But I remember in our recap in my in our review, I said to myself, but at the same time, he has some redeeming uh qualities because as soon as it was done, he was like, "Hey, I love you, son." Or and and kind of gave him a hug and a pat on the head and like, "All right, great job. Let's go get a cheeseburger." You know what I'm saying? So, I'm like, "Okay, at least he showed him some type of love and affection there." But his mom never hugged him in the episode. Never kissed him. Nothing nothing like that at all. She was just mean, cold, and everything. Even when they dropped him off in the bad neighborhood, when John came back in the house and he saw all of his brothers playing and and pillow fighting and stuff, she was in his room like, "John," she didn't say, "Good job." She didn't say, "I'm glad you're safe." Anything like that. I left you a pork chop. It's in the microwave. And then just going to leave the room. Don't give him a hug or nothing. And he jumps on the bed and starts crying. I mean, you you're a horrible mother, man. You're you're horrible. I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. I I I'm feel like I'm justified in saying that. Thoughts? >> This is helicopter parenting from hell. You want to live vicariously through your son, him being a guardian. And your feelings are hurt because you ruined your husband's dreams by not believing him and standing by that man's side. So now in your mind, if you can't get this job done for your son, this is not about this this is not about the safety of the galaxy. This is all about that mom's ego and re and you know her not wanting to let go and admit to the mistakes she made. That's what this is all about. And in this type of game, it's the wrong place to be all about yourself, lady. >> Yeah. What do you think about this right here? Um when Liliana played by Laura Lenny uh was having this exchange I saw with Bernardet explaining who she is um her mission the um her being an a blue of course we know that she's blue uh but she was tall like probably 7 feet the Guardians in the comics and the cartoons have always been no taller than three feet. Uh so what do you think about this scene right here the diamond and and all that stuff? Uh how you feeling? First of all, shout out to the actress. I love her. I loved her in um golly, what was that show she played in? Anyway, I I love um Ozark. Loved her in Ozark. She is fantastic everywhere she goes. I love the scene. I love them transitioning, showing her as a guardian from the back of the head, kind of leaving the face in mystery. Us folks that do reviews, we know why they're doing it like that to save some money. But it still was good for TV. >> It was still very good for TV. And I'm sitting here saying, "Why don't Why don't you tell us where you got that diamond from, lady? Because if you just handing folks out diamonds like that, why don't you go get a truckload of them? Make everybody on planet Earth rich." Qua. >> Um, and I just felt like when she revealed all that, mom should have ran in the house, put the baby away, got right on her knees, and got between her husband's leg and said, "I am so sorry, baby. lay back and relax. But she didn't. >> She did not, man. Um, she didn't. That's that's that's unfortunate that she uh didn't right there. I was about to say something else, but you made me laugh um about uh making making them rich. Um I I I I will say I was a bit uh turned off by this at first. Like I'm like, why are they still showing like the human form? I want to see some aliens. But it it makes sense. Um, so I I don't really have any complaints there. Um, how did you feel about the conversation though at the table? Uh, at towards the end of the conversation, Bernardet was like, "Man, y'all don't even notice us in space." And, uh, I I I'll give some the aliens, the guardians that some grace as well there. Um, you know, cuz they've never really interacted with humans that much before and they realize they made some mistakes and they're trying to fix it. Uh, but to give Bernard Death some credit, I will admit she do look good right there. Um, she says, "Do you realize how unfair it is to ask the black man, is he afraid in this particular climate?" You know, and I didn't even think about that until she said it. And, you know, I thought that was um a pretty accurate question to ask. Um, you agree or disagree? >> Oh, 100%. But like I said, the aliens are obtuse to the issues we're having on planet Earth. But they shouldn't be obtuse because they claim they've been observing her for so long. And I like Bernardet admitting that fact. But the problem with her admitting that fact, she did not express admitting that fact to her husband with actions. when this man tried to tell you what was going on, you shot him down and now all of a sudden he's been validated. You want to uplift him. And I I do like that they're having this back and forth, alien towoman, and she's giving the Guardians a great understanding of what it's going to be like to have John in their service and what he has to deal with just here on planet Earth so that they can kind of understand what is going on on our planet that shapes us. So, I enjoyed the convers. I thought it was a good job. >> Right on. Right on. Something that did kind of confuse me uh during the scene towards the beginning of the scene the interview. Well, first of all, we got to talk about like John sat there for like 12 16 hours, bro. Like my goodness gracious, that is uh that is some dedication, but that also may be conditioning from uh his horrible childhood cuz again, he never asked to be a lantern. Um they just kind of forced this on him. But >> John said in this scene right here, he was like, "Hey, I have a question. the rings usually pick the next user or or the next uh ring bearer. So why are y'all conducting interviews? And she says because of your condolences. He gave his condolences in that meeting. So they made the decision for him to have this meeting before he before he arrived. So that didn't really make sense to me. If you can shine some light on that, that would be cool. Um, but you know, I I don't understand that. Do you >> I I think that they're they're keeping him in the dark because there's a lot of stuff they not telling him from the manhunters to the real reason why they want him to become the next lantern over Hal Jordan. I mean, she basically did everything she could short of saying, "If we kill Hal Jordan or if Jordan gets killed, would you be willing to kill him to take that that ring?" She basically came short of saying that. So, I think that they're just trying to tap dance around a lot of issues with John Stewart to make sure he is number one loyal and number two. Um, he's ready for the job and they don't want him to know everything because keep in mind these Guardians be Avery. >> While they their mission is to serve and protect the galaxy, they have done a lot of dastardly stuff trying to fulfill that objective. and they probably want to keep as many innocent people in the in the clear as they possibly can. And John is no different. >> Right on. Y'all let us know what y'all think right here. Um for John's birthday right here, um this bothered me, too. It made me upset uh for both of them. I'm just like, this is a horrible uh scene between y'all being parents. The reason why I say that is you're clearly showing favoritism to your uh to a certain child, to John. Um whether it's intentional or not, and that's going to affect the other kids. We don't know the relationship that John has with his siblings when we get when they get older, we'll find out. But during this scene, Lamont, they wasn't talking to the family or the other kids at all. They were just talking to John, not including him, not including them at all. I felt like the other brothers shouldn't shouldn't he excuse me shouldn't even have been in the room. One of them ran out. Marcus was like, "You always pick him." And the other brother said, "Uh, oh, you had him going to school by himself and sleeping in another room. I thought you liked him more." So, the kids at a young age are clearly under the impression that their parents like John more than them. So, the fact that they never gave the kids a conversation about this whole thing like, "Hey, this is what the deal is. This is a situation, uh, they chose your brother or your brother chose this or we did this. We we we're making the decision together. He's going to be a lantern. We're going to support him together as a family. You know, if you want to aspire to do something, we're going to support you, Marcus. We're going to support you other brother, too. We're always going to support each other, you know, and love each other. When your brother When your brothers do good, you you have their back. You support them. You cheer them on. It was It was just none of that. None of that at all. No line of dialogue saying, "Hey, I know it looks like this, but you know, I love you all the same." It It was none of that doing this scene. And then talk about trying to live through your child vicariously like the life you wanted. I mean, it would be different if John >> if if if John was a little boy. And actually, he was a little boy at the very beginning of the season one. He saw how on TV and he aspired to be a superhero like him. Hey dad, I want to be a superhero. Okay, then you can go down this path that you created. But you know, y'all kind of forced this on John. Well, before that, uh, I just didn't like it, man. I just thought it was horrible parenting. Um, how you feeling? >> How about that? >> Number one, the boy wanted crayons for his birthday and they they done brought his ass a green lantern suit. Yeah. >> I mean, because deep down on the inside, he's got this talent for drawing and architecture. And instead of catering the things he needs to be a young child, all that they're doing is pushing adulthood on them. And if there's one thing that you should never rob your kid of is the opportunity to be a child, where they don't have to worry about bills, where they can be curious and learn, where they can have fun. That's you only get one of those in life. And these people are basically robbing him of that because they want to push not just an adult themed issue on him, but an adult themed issue where he's going to be having to carry the weight of a whole sector of the galaxy. And so I just felt like that whole thing was just horrible. And it just it kind of seems like um dad is a little panty draws whip if you want my opinion. >> I ain't mad at you for saying that though. Um I'm not. So, y'all let us know. Is the Father Penny draws whipped? Um, maybe just a little bit. We'll see. Uh, when we started this recording, this uh breakdown, you talked about the title of the episode, Outcast. Uh, why does that stand out to you? I'm curious. >> Because they play Outcast music like three or four times in this episode. They even did it on the outro when it when it was going off and that was I felt like that was pretty good. They play Atlantanss in it. So, you know, it was a parallel for me. I really really love the music um this particular episode and I thought it fit. >> Yes, cuz they did treat um John like an outcast. So >> Mhm. >> Good good stuff right there. I'mma let you drive this scene right here. I want your interpretation of it, sir. You know, John is pulling up to um one of his superiors >> and uh explain it to me. What are your thoughts here? >> Aaron, first of all, Aaron Pierre Paul, you rocking the hell out of that suit. you rocking the hell out of this this season, brother. You is doing great work. Excellent work. And anytime you have the the government engages in what they did with him all the time, we have allies which on paper were supposed to be their buddies, but sometimes our allies are harboring dangerous people for whatever their reason. And we decide we want to take those people out. But we can't with the military force because then we might be breaking treaties. We might be breaking clauses. We might be breaking deals we have with our allies. And so we have someone that they need taken out in Russia and they can't send the troops in there. This has got to be a covert mission. And they need someone who is a sniper and a head hunter. And there ain't nobody in the business better than John. And so John is sent over to Russia to take this dude out. And he's made aware by the the cap the I think the colonel that was sitting across from him that you might be over there for a hot minute to get this guy. John was like, I can do this. Well, what we didn't know be able was that I can do this would turn into nine damn months and my man grow a beard. And when he had the opportunity to get him, who comes and steps in his way? None other than how racist huxable ass Jordan. Right on. Right on. Yeah, man. Um, I would have been pretty hot about that, John. His response for being dishonorably discharged when he did nothing wrong is [ __ ] >> Um, >> yeah. >> I mean, I liked them. I like him as far as, you know, he respects authority and the chain of command, etc., but this is just too much, bro. I'll be damned, >> right? >> If I'mma sleep in the freaking woods for nine months off of berries and bugs and you going to dishonorably discharge me? >> No. No. >> You better You better slide these people on the side. >> Yeah. At the least. At the least. I mean, this is why people have crashs >> and and and and then they want to get mad at the person. Oh, they're crazy. What are we gonna No. Are you nine months? Not God. Lamont, think about that. Nine. I couldn't even last four days. Nine months, >> bro. I probably couldn't even last four Well, four hours, man. Like, >> dude stayed in the woods. Not He missed Christmas. He miss birthdays. He miss his brother's birthday. He probably miss his own damn birthday. N >> I couldn't even done it if I was catered food every day outside like that. Maybe if I'm if I'm catering I get a tent. You know what I'm saying? But no, that that's uh that that's too much, man. Uh he should he should have been flipping tables uh flipping buildings. You know what I'm saying? >> The thing is that's next level discipline on his part. >> There's no TV. There's no internet. You ain't got no panty draws. It's not like you like you eating gourmet food. You having to do hand jobs to yourself if you want to do that. And then how often are you sleeping because you got to keep one eye open and one eye closed. >> Yeah. >> Bro, no way. And then and then how Jordan gonna pop up and do the wrong thing to cause you to be honorably discharged. Oh no. you at some point in time you're gonna had to discharge one of his eyeballs. >> Yeah. Yeah. Um definitely, man. Um that that that's crazy, man. You know, he was doing push-ups and sit-ups and you know, all this stuff. Um you know, that that was uh pretty impressive. But however, about the scene, I don't know why this was funny to me, but it just was. Maybe it was, excuse me, intentional, unintentional. But um the guy was like, "Hey man, you don't got no extra clothes outside, no gym bag. All right, I got you some a beer in a steak. But the point of meeting at the Outback, man, is to be discreet, you know. And we got Mr. uh Stoic Face over here with no personality at all. U just like, hey, I don't I don't need a panic button. I don't panic, sir. You know, that's cool. Um I was going to Some people may disagree with me about the bad parenting because they'll be like, "Well, Brandon, it seemed like the parents worked. The parenting worked. You know, John is not crashing out. He's actually meeting with the lanterns, training, you know, he's doing this, he's doing that. Yeah, but we don't know what his relationship is with people or if he's able to maintain them. Now, yes, he did smash a grandma in the first episode. So, he has a degree of social skills, but at the same time, it's a grandma and that's not necessarily a flex. You know what I'm saying? And just because you can smash, you know, if just because you can pick somebody up at the bar or wherever just like this, that don't mean that you know how to keep somebody. You know what I'm saying? And if you want to just, you know, have some some fun real quick, you know, you just got to go to the weight room. That don't mean that you got some game or some heart or some character or personality. Am I making sense or am I tripping? >> It makes sense. I mean, this now the only the only place I got to I got to kind of pump the brakes is, you know. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. >> That grandma fine, you know. I mean, Holly Berry is a grandma, and all of us is going to let her jump in a slingshot and fling herself at us the same way this lady did. >> You know what I mean, though? >> This lady did. >> You know what I mean? >> I know what you mean. I know what you mean. But still, >> okay, I'll give you that. I'll give you that. >> We don't We don't discriminate over here, lady. We love our geriatrics. Okay, y'all find geriatrics nowadays. Okay, but I what what he's really trying to say is we still don't know the man's mentality. She threw herself at him. And the reason she threw herself at him is because me and B Avery got this little theory. >> We think she's probably the manhunter or she's the one representing the manhunters and she sees that Jon is the one based on some conversations Sinestro had with Hal this episode. I think that she is trying to figure out her way in with John to get information to take down Hal and probably the whole lantern corps. >> Yeah. What do you think about the relationship that Hal has with Sinestro? Um she asked him uh Lyanna Lyanna whatever her name is the guardian like you know hey what do you know about Sinestro? Um and she says that hey Sinestro is the one that trained Hal and you know how Yeah. And John was like, you know, told what he knows, what he heard on the news. And what do you feel about how do you feel about that exchange, that exposition right there, and her disgust or her disdain that even though Sinestro is evil and betrayed him, that Jon still, no, not John, but Howal still rever him to some degree. >> If it don't mean nothing, that's fine, too. I just, you know, I just curious. I think for her they're frustrated that that she she wants Howal's she wants Hal's loyalty and other lantern's loyalty to remain with them. And although Hal does not like what Sinestro did because Hal is the one that arrested them and threw his ass in jail, he still respects the man for teaching him how to be a guardian. I mean, how to be a lantern. It'd be no different if, god forbid, whoever taught me and you how to do YouTube. They were YouTubers. They taught us how to do YouTube. And now all of a sudden, we done had to take their place because they done went and robbed the bank. We don't dis We don't agree with them robbing the bank, but we still can have respect for the way they treated us when they was on the straight and narrow. And that's probably what Hal feels for Sinestro. And if I were the guardians, I would be a little concerned because it's kind of like if this man was doing bad behavior that we got to lock him up for eternity. It does make you question what is he still saying to you that keeps you coming back. >> Yeah. >> Cuz I can I can respect somebody from afar and be thankful, but if I keep coming back, that says something totally different. And I understand what the Guardians are saying. >> Okay. Okay. Um, I was going to ask you a follow-up question to that, but it'll dive too deep into my personal life, and I don't I don't want to open up a a can of worms, but this is coming back to my memory. Uh, it was a flashback scene in this episode where John was in bed. He was drawing the apple >> and his mom came in and she was like, "You don't have to do that." And she was like, "Man, you really are skilled. I know that you want to, you know, be able to draw a little bit more, but you can't do much right now." John was like, "But we got to train." and she was like, you know, uh it's normal not to want to hurt the people that you love, uh etc. That was where the mother redeemed herself. And I was like, goodness gracious. Cuz prior to this, you know, you was awful. Um it really sucks though that she lied to him or they lied to him, excuse me, about the birds. Um I kind of thought that John would hate her for that, but he didn't, you know, because they had a a relationship towards the end. But yeah, that not the episode, but that scene right there where she was like, "You got to choose yourself." And, you know, all that. I I was so thankful for that because uh I was severely uh pissed off um prior to that. Um and I'm surprised that, you know, John still loves his parents. He said that and you can see it towards the end of this episode. But when he shot the apple off her head, I I thought she was going to die. Uh I I I I really did think that she was going to die. And um that would have been horrible. That that would have been horrible. I think the I think the bigger story for me was you was afraid to do it with your dad, but you not with your mom. So, are you basically saying you harbor more resentment and hatred toward your mom and more love toward your dad? Because he could not do it with dad. He was so fearful. But with mom, he was like, "A [ __ ] it." >> Yeah. >> If I shoot apple, I shoot you in the eye. >> Yeah. Yeah. I I'm not u I'm not mad at that at all. Um I'm not. So I I agree with you 100%. And so um and again I think it was cool that maybe they g she kind of gave up indirectly uh didn't speak on it and admitted John into our school which is great. I love her for that as well. Uh because that's what he wanted to do as a child. He can draw his ass off. Um you know so that that was cool. And I do like Do I have a picture of this? I don't I thought I No, I do have a picture. I do like this scene right here how they did this. I wouldn't I thought he was really well he is in art school but you know a guardian infiltrated and pretended that there was a professor and was like hey we in recruit mode right here you know uh conjure up your daddy's watch Lamont that he didn't just conjure up a watch bro he he conjured up every nut bolt widget anything you can think of in that watch man down to everything all hundred pieces thoughts there sir thoughts >> fantastic man is just showing you why he's going going to be the greatest lantern ever. He has that much thought and control and you already seen last episode he was able to conjure up a bird even without the ring which is what we kind of talked about earlier in this review that he winds up becoming so strong with his will he don't even need the ring to do constructs and all that. So, I think that this was just kind of, you know, the beginning of understanding why he was able to conjure up a bird and be that far away from a ring and the bird still follow him and why there was a lot of hype about how powerful he's going to be. >> Yeah. I can't wait for him to say the quote, you know, in bright and black, what was it? In brightest day and blackest night, no hero shall escape my sight. Uh something something um >> beware of my power green lantern light. >> My bad. Fans, don't don't rip me up in the comments. Um, but yeah, I I like the fact that they had the little bubble at the end and you know, it showed him how he fell through the ceiling until the mattresses and uh all of that. And so, uh, why do you think the Guardians want to have Hal replaced cuz he's been doing this for decades and they >> trust him? >> What did he do for them not to trust him though? Cuz he's been doing this for a while. He continues to go and visit Sinestro who tried to overthrow the Landon Corps. And if he's a bad guy, and I know we know he trained you, but he's also a bad guy that you took down. Why do you continue to go visit him? >> Why you continue to go rogue? Because they were saying that he does a lot of he does a lot of things, use his ring in a way that they don't want him to use it all the time. And so at the end of the day, what I want to know is if y'all are the Guardians, why don't y'all just take his ring? Why why are we playing these games? >> That's actually a good question. Um I didn't think about that. What I I was going to push back and say that well the only reason he went to go visit Sinestro was for reconnaissance, for information on why the manhunters are on Earth. So that's a just cause. Now, if if he's going around continuing to use his ring and powers on um humans or non-aliens, terrestrials, that that's a more valid argument to me. Um you know, just kind of stepping out of your jurisdiction causing a ruckus. So, I'm kind of 50/50 on that right there. But they they make the deal. John has the job or you know, he got he's an intern now in training. Goes home. Mom, dad, it paid off. 18, 25 years. Cuz I don't I don't think when John went home to tell his parents, I hopefully he was a more he didn't look like he was 18 years old. He looked like he was I don't know how he looked, but he looked much older. Uh but um Hal shows up and he's there. I guess the Guardians gave him the news and he's putting on the front like, "Yeah, I'm going to train him." But when he gets outside, he cussing out John like, "You're not going to get this ring over my dead body. It's my job. It's my ring. Leave me alone." and and he he flaws off. Um some tension there and he was trying to talk crap. I don't know what happened to your mic, but I'm hearing some background noise now. But um what do you what do you think about that exchange that Hal gave him at the end and that attitude that they had? It's not really the a good first impression in my opinion, but what are your thoughts? I think that this is just showing how pretty much in the lantern core, everyone who trains newbies is tough as hell and they hate them. That's just part of how the comics go. And I think they want us to believe that probably before this season is up, there's going to be a knockdown dragout fight between Hal and um Jon and maybe even a fight with with Powers. But I think it's a misdirect and Hal know what the deal is. But at some point in time, Hal is gonna wind up going to the yellow power of fear and then it's going to have to be Jon to take him down. And who better to do the job than John? Nope. You're on mute. We can't >> My fault. My bad. I thought you were saying that you was muted. Uh I was saying no. I disagree with you. Um I don't think that Hal is going to go down the dark side and and turn into a yellow lantern. I was also saying that um I've heard some theories that he is got infected by Parallax. That is um is Parallax just an evil alien or is he part of the yellow lanterns as well? And now you're muted. Now you're muted. >> He could be both, but he could be both, but most of the time they associate him with the the the yellow the yellow light of fear. >> Okay. Um, great episode other than the bad parts I mentioned, but at least Bernardet did have some redeeming qualities and it seemed like, you know, John doesn't hate his parents. Sades loves them and they did a good job, but it was, you know, a bunch of luck in my opinion. Uh, but it was great. I cannot wait to see episode 4. Uh, Lamont, what are your final thoughts, sir? Stay tuned for episode 4, folks. This thing is just getting better and better and better, and I want to know when are they going to stick the yellow light of fear ring in this? Because remember, it's not called Green Lanterns, it's lanterns. >> Correct. That is correct. Well, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, we want to thank you so much for tuning in to our Lanterns recap for episode 3 titled Outcast. Let's see if there's a title for episode 4. And there is not. But guys, go ahead and subscribe to Lamont's political channel right here uh called Lamont Tyson. And also subscribe to his movie and TV breakdowns uh channel right here as well. If you're watching this on Lamont's channel, subscribe to my reaction channel right here. 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