La Chat Explosive Interview: Three 6 Mafia 20 Years Not Speaking! Gangsta Boo Passing, Cardi B +More
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In this exclusive interview from *Boss Talk 101*, hosts Eco and Mr. Jamaica welcome Little Chat to Memphis for the first time in two decades to discuss her profound history with Three 6 Mafia and the stark cultural differences between the gangster mentality of Memphis and the club-focused scene of Atlanta. The conversation delves deeply into personal tragedies, including Chat's early experiences with her father's death from cancer and her mother's subsequent struggles after losing her husband and becoming paralyzed. Chat reflects on her rap career beginning in 1994 alongside Juicy J, the formation of the group, and her enduring friendship with Gangsta Boo, whose passing in January following an overdose left her grieving the loss of a partner she never got to marry or have children with. She honors Boo's legacy through music and birthday tributes while addressing the unique challenges women face in balancing careers and motherhood within the industry, even touching on her distinctive gold teeth choices and her observations regarding Cardi B's recent dental work.
The dialogue expands to include insights from Chad, who shares his journey with Gangsta Boo and the group, noting how she introduced him to social media platforms like MySpace and Twitter before he eventually deleted that content due to spiritual opposition to industry beefs, especially while his son faced severe legal challenges. Chad recounts the painful separation from Juicy J and Paul Bee, which was inadvertently caused by legal disputes over unpaid checks and label restrictions that prevented direct contact between members for approximately twenty years until an emotional reconciliation occurred during a VladTV interview. He also reflects on his complex relationship with Crunchy Black, whom he did not speak to for years before collaborating on the album *Hood*, and shares a touching story about Dolph, who once declared Chat his favorite female rapper only to cancel a song release because Chad's verse was deemed too good.
Throughout the discussion, themes of faith, accountability, and redefining success permeate the narrative, with Chad emphasizing how God guided him during his son's trials by revealing inconsistencies in witness testimony regarding a gun case. He argues that many female rappers mistakenly blame men for their struggles rather than taking accountability for their own choices, asserting that true success is defined by continued work and income rather than radio play or sales figures. The interview concludes with practical details, as Chad provides contact information for his manager, Big F, and social media handles for booking inquiries, while both Chat and Chad offer a poignant reflection on the toxicity of the music industry and their ultimate triumphs in overcoming personal and professional obstacles to find peace and reunion.
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cuz we gangster. We ain't You see what
I'm saying? They going
It's a different
Atlanta. They going to go in and be
like, "Yeah, throw it up in the club."
And we going to be like, "Walk up to
your door, knock on your door, and blow
your ass off. Drop it off." [ __ ] we
got a salt off.
>> It's a difference.
>> So it ain't the same. That's what you
saying.
>> It ain't the same. We made people catch
charges. Yeah, we on Boss Talk 101.
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>> Hey, listen, man. And I'm down in
Memphis, Tennessee for the first time.
Boss Talk 101 is at Memphis, Tennessee.
And I couldn't First of all, let me do
my thing. You never taught me how to do
my thing. I do my thing now, [ __ ] I
might not move. I might not come back to
Texas. I'm I'm down here now. I'm in the
building with little Chad, man. And I'm
so excited about being here with you,
man. What up?
>> Hey. Hey.
>> Welcome to Memphis, too. I know this was
your first time.
>> Yeah. No, this the first time the show
boss talking. We came here 20 years ago.
Me and my wife,
>> we came down here. I surprised and
brought her down here to Bill Street. 20
years ago, we My daughter's 20. We
didn't have at the time. So, about 21
years ago,
>> right?
>> Okay.
>> And and we this the first time we
brought the show here and the first time
we came back.
>> Okay then. Well, we glad to tell y'all
back,
>> man. Hold up, man. Listen, man. Little
chat, man. I ain't going to lie to you,
man. Since I've been here, your name
rings like a telephone. This is my city.
>> I can tell.
>> Memphis to the bone,
>> man. Oh, love. Listen, man. I'm from
Texas, man. I I'm going get them Texas
mans all night, man. It's going down,
Miss Jamaica. Let's do it how we do it.
>> Okay. So, you're born and raised here in
Memphis. What part of Memphis?
>> I was born and raised in South Memphis,
but I grew up in Westwood.
>> Okay.
>> So, how old were you when you were in
South Memphis?
>> My out the womb. And you moved at one
time? I mean, how old were you when you
moved?
>> I could have been like 12, 13.
>> Okay. So, you were there for a little
bit where you remembered all of that?
>> Yeah. Yeah. Really?
>> Okay. So, what's the difference between
South and where you moved to?
>> My South Memphis hood. South Memphis
gutter.
>> South Memphis. Uh, ratchet. South
Memphis. Dangerous.
>> Really?
>> South Memphis was real real hood.
>> Wow.
>> And you moved for a better life.
>> Hey, we moved on up, you know. And then
we moved on up from there. You know,
like the Jefferson.
>> Moving on up.
>> Yeah.
>> Two good times.
>> Yeah. But you know, I can go in all of
them.
>> Okay.
>> Today.
>> But were you living with your mom and
your dad?
>> Well, I was living with my mom. My uh
dad was uh sick. He died when I was 11.
>> 11. So before you moved, that first
move?
>> No, I was still one with him. Uh they
were separated, but you know.
>> Okay. But he passed away because you
said you moved when you were 12.
>> Yeah. So before you moved that you pass
what he passed from?
>> Uh cancer.
>> Cancel. Were y'all close?
>> Yeah, we were close. Yeah, I used to
spend nights over there with him and you
know go home on the weekend and you know
come back.
>> So was he suffering from cancer for a
long time? Like did you see him go?
>> The crazy part about it which I'm really
mad at him cuz I didn't know he had
cancer.
>> Oh, you didn't?
>> I really didn't. And um the the last
time that it's crazy. It's crazy story
because I got it's me and two brothers.
I'm the baby. I'm the only girl. And
before you pass, you know, the the last
weekend he was like he just want his
daughter. He I just want my daughter
this weekend. I just want my daughter.
You know me. I'm like I ain't going over
there by myself. You know, I ain't know
what was going on. I was like, "No, then
you know next I know that Monday he was
in the hospital. My mom like your dad in
the hospital. I think it's just a normal
>> something right." And then you know four
five days later, you know, they was like
that quick. He gone. And
>> so he never did the chemo. Did he do the
chemo and all of that? Did you hear?
>> I didn't even know he was sick.
>> So he didn't
>> he didn't tell us. My mom didn't he
didn't tell us he was getting all of us
on the weekend.
>> Mhm.
>> You know, and and letting us go back
home.
>> He just wanted to spend time with the
kids.
>> Yeah. And then this last particular
weekend, he just wanted to spend time
with his daughter, which was me.
>> Right. I remember you saying,
>> "Yeah, I I ain't, you know, I don't know
nothing about I ain't going by myself. I
never went by myself." And um I don't
know what why, but it was it was
strange. Like five days later, he was
dead and he killed me. And
>> how I was about to say, how did that
affect you when you found out?
>> It hurt me. It hurt me so bad because I
was like, man, he was trying to spend
his last days with me. But I still
didn't understand it. But at the same
time, by me being a young girl, it hurt
me cuz I I was so He was like, "I'm your
daddy. What you think I'm going to do to
you? I told you I wanted you to come
home." And I was like, "No." Oh yeah.
>> So you didn't end up spending that
weekend?
>> No, not that last weekend cuz I you know
I ain't know. And then I was just like
he was trying to spend his last he I get
my boys all the time. I was his only
girl cuz he got five uh five boys and I
was the only girl. He got two by my mom
and three by another lady.
>> So that haunted you for a long time,
didn't it?
>> It haunted me. It hurted me.
>> I can imagine how you probably was mad
at yourself.
>> Yep. It hurted me.
>> How did you get over that? Did you ever
get over that?
>> I really didn't. You see that's that's
the memory I got. That's the last memory
I got of me. So when I went to his
funeral with it hit me real hard cuz I
was like man dad I know.
>> Wow.
>> I'm think you going to the hospital and
yo come on like your dad in the
hospital. I'm like okay then this you
know they like go
>> man.
>> But you know what I say I said
everything happens for a reason. And in
that case, I would use that as a as a
learning lesson because everything you
go through is a learning lesson to say,
you know what, when somebody asks you
for something, especially somebody that
you love,
>> don't put it off cuz you don't know what
other people going through.
>> Yeah.
>> Cuz you don't want to ever live your
life in regret.
>> Yeah.
>> So, just do it whenever you can.
>> You're right.
>> Wow.
>> That's how I look on life.
>> Well, life is uh like a box of
chocolates. You never know what you're
going to get.
>> Mhm. See, I lost my mama early and I
lost my daddy
>> at the end of the day. My lost my mama
to cancer and in in 1996.
>> Well, it was tough.
>> But at the end of the day, it broke the
family up pretty tough cuz everybody was
used to mama holding everything
together.
>> Yes.
>> When somebody died, mama go get the
money up. She go try to help. We got to
bury that boy.
>> I never forget LC, man. RP to LC. my
mama, he had got shot in the back and my
mama wouldn't just try to get the money
up for this guy. She kept trying to get
the money up to try to get this boy
buried.
>> And stuff like that I remember about or
she always brought the weirdest people
home. People who people who I was
ashamed of, let's just be real on Boss
Talk 101 one time for my mama.
>> I take her. My older brother, he
paralyzed from the neck down.
>> Oh wow.
>> Yeah.
>> Wow.
>> He took a foul when I was on tour.
Really?
>> How long ago was that?
>> Man, he been paralyzed 15 years.
>> And I used to tell him, "You go either
go get well or we going to get used to
it." And um you know, they they they
took him to a nursing home and it was it
was like the morg to me. I was like, you
know, every time I went in there, it was
sad. He they had him lay in the back cuz
he couldn't move his head. And that one
day I just said, "Why y'all got him in
here?"
>> And cuz I thought that was the
procedure. You know, he hurt this where
he go. I don't know. They said, "Cuz
y'all ain't got nobody to take care of
him." I said, "Yes, we do. I can take
care of them, you know." And so I've
been taking care of them for the
longest. And then I end up finding out
that uh 5 years later that I that I can
get paid for taking care of cuz we had
two different last names and that made
it even better. So now I split the money
with him and we just be living out.
>> Well, you talking some real stuff cuz
that's what my uncle do too. Same thing.
>> That's that's that that's a part of just
trying to making it work.
>> Yeah. And when I slowed down two years
ago, I told my uncle, "Go get my mama,
move everything up out of there."
>> And it took her a minute. She stayed in
her and she stayed in her room. I ain't
care long she was took care of
>> like I was doing fine till you moved me
here. I said, "Yeah, right."
>> But some sometimes also um the older
ones I always said once a man, twice a
child. But at the same time, they're so
used to doing everything for themselves
that now they when they're dependent on
you, sometimes that can also send them
in some sort of depression, too, because
they want to get up and go when they
want to get up and go and do what they
want to do, but they're realizing that I
can't just do that anymore.
>> You know what I mean? So, did that
affect her?
>> My mom,
>> yeah,
>> she just want to be a baby.
>> It's like she been waiting and don't
have to do nothing.
>> She retired as a sergeant. She was a
sergeant at at the uh correction center.
So,
>> so she did a lot. Was she strict on you
growing up?
>> No.
>> No, not at all.
>> Well, tell me about a a memory of your
mama.
>> Something that she instilled in you when
you were a young person that you still
stick with you right now.
>> I used to always be in the kitchen with
her. You know, I used to want to uh do
the cornbread, whip the cornbread. I
wanted to whip the cake mix and I wanted
to butter the cornbread.
>> Yeah. You can hungry now.
>> Yeah. I can cook just like that. You can
throw down
>> just like a
>> Okay.
>> Like she got her own specialty taste
that she do stuff and my brother be
like, "Damn, you got that same taste
mama got." Like on spaghetti. She put mu
in it and and um
mushrooms and olives and bell peppers.
But the thing, you know, she put like a
thing of uh what it is the little bit of
cans.
>> Not tomato paste, but it's something
else. It's tomato paste. Well, yeah,
it's tomato paste. It's tomato paste.
put a little good thing to my face. But
the
>> get that twang to it.
>> The twang is the sandwich.
>> I never even I never heard of that.
>> She say
that was the funniest thing because
coming down here, you know, everybody
talk about coming to try y'all barbecue.
Memphis barbecue. But I hear somebody
talk about, oh yeah, when you go to
barbecue place, certain ones have it,
certain ones don't. But you got to get
that spaghetti with the barbecue in the
spa. I'm like barbecue and spaghetti.
Who eat that?
>> Not me.
>> Have you tried it?
>> No, I eat the sandwich. My mama raised
me up. So,
>> yeah, because they do barbecue like the
brisket and the and the spaghetti and
and I'm like,
>> I'm sure it's good though.
>> Since y'all been here?
>> Not yet.
>> Run is down here. Run.
>> Run.
>> Is it really good?
>> Yeah, it is.
>> Okay,
>> man. Man, you you so special to me, you
know. I You know what? I I'm just keep
thinking about Girl, you I don't like my
outfit. How did you come up with that?
I'm just going to skip. So, could you
give Do the first part
do you like my outfit? Don't even make a
deal. I thought you said you had a girl
on a light beard and I gave him that
little
listen boy. You just made my day. You
don't even know.
>> I'm crazy. You don't
when it come to music.
>> He love me.
>> What? You just made my day.
>> Shout out Project.
>> How did y'all I'm I'm jumping right into
it. How did y'all How did y'all come up
with that?
>> Uh Project P just like, "Man, Chad, I
got a song, man. We call chicken. I want
you to roast me on it." He was like,
"Man, I'mma talk bad. You talk bad to
me." I was like, "Okay." So, he end up
just dropping his verses like we people
think that we wrote them together. We
didn't
>> really.
>> He dropped his little balls and then I
came in and I filled in my bag
>> and I loved it.
>> We never knew that it'll be still going
today. That keep me booked right to this
day.
>> I know it, man. I love it. I'm telling
you when they said that cuz I already
been looking for Project Patch for 2
years.
>> Yeah.
>> I I don't know how I'm going to get to
him. So, I was like, man, I'm going to
get I'mma get him because of the prison
ministry. I just told you I've been
through a lot. So, it makes sense for me
to talk to him. And I'm like, I don't
know how I'm going to get to him. I know
God going to make it happen. Of course.
And so when I thought about it, then
your name kept coming up. I kept
thinking about that song. I said, "Boy,
she ate on that thing, man. It wasn't
like he just came through and it always
my man, I was loving that song." And
then you got to understand my biggest
flex. I'm a pimp fanatic.
>> So the way that y'all all he used to
love, you know, y'all
>> listen. I was so I'm a How am I about
pimp?
>> That's this whole show is really like
that. Like that's all I They get sick of
me. I just talked to son. I always
That's my thing.
>> Great memories of pimp.
>> What's Give me a great What was
>> Oh man. Okay. I can never forget this. I
Well, I got two. I remember uh we was in
Miami. We was doing a sipping on the
scissor video.
>> Mhm. And um I was so hungry. I was like,
"Mom hungry." Everybody else was hungry
too. They was like they were hungry.
Pimp didn't say nothing. But soon I said
I was hungry. He was like, "Oh, Chad,
you hungry?" He went in the microwave.
He had steak and shrimp. He was like,
"Man, this is my plate right here. You
can have." He said, "Man, where they get
you at? Where they find you at, man?" He
said, "Man, you going to say some stuff
that going to make you go?" He made that
little face. So, that was one thing,
>> man. Oh, Lord.
>> Another time he came to Memphis and he
had a show. And um we was in the VIP,
you know, I had to come see Pimp. He was
uh we was on the other side of the road
when he was coming up the steps. But you
know we waiting our turn. We in Memphis
and he like what's that? Y'all need to
MOVE ALL THAT. GOD DIDN'T move chat.
This [ __ ] man come on move all that. He
made them move the ropes which they was
going to do anyway. But you know he made
them move the ropes. He took me to VIP
and he wrapped his whole segment with
his arm around me.
>> That's hard. How
>> when the relationship first started,
what was the did how did it start? Do
you even real know how to start?
>> How did you meet him?
>> Yeah.
>> No, I'm talking how did they how did he
start just driving with y'all like that?
>> When we was doing the sipping on the
scissor video, he was like my little
chat. He was like, man, he like he did
the little face
was like
>> and it was from that point on it was
love.
>> It was love. Big little big
conversation.
>> He he credited that crunk music to
y'all. Do you know that?
>> Man, this girl
>> he was serious about it. M.
>> So, so you didn't know he credit? That's
who he said. He said y'all started Kunk
Music cuz you know they were trying to
say it started really it was more like
ATL or something. But he said y'all
>> and he was serious. See, I'm a fan. I
know what he said. And guess what? I'm
riding with him. I'm in the car with the
window down. You heard?
>> See, my thing is I say that, you know,
I'm going say ATL, they they start to
crump.
>> Okay.
>> Why? Why? Why did he think that?
>> Cuz we gangster. We ain't chronic. You
see what I'm saying? They going to go
in. It's a difference.
>> It's a difference. Talk to me.
>> The Atlanta, they going to go in and be
like, "Yeah, throw it up in the club."
And we going to be like, "Walk up to
your door, knock on your door, and blow
your ass off."
[ __ ] we got a salt off.
>> It's a difference.
>> So it ain't the same. That's what you
said.
>> It ain't the same. We made people catch
charges.
>> You see what I'm saying?
We shut clubs down. We It was no no uh
we shut them down cuz they were crunk.
We shut them down from fighting. We were
banned in certain places type [ __ ]
>> That's hard man.
>> There a difference between crunk and
gangster. So we let them out at Krunk.
We the gangsters.
>> That's why it was serious man. I'm tell
you something. I was just up on that
stage man. Me and T and all us tonight
at earlier today. And I'm going to be
real with you. A boy that that beat the
way that they would man I said this man
this is crazy. You know, we be with
everybody, but this trade, man, they
were boom. That it's that base. It was
just hidden. Like I'm like like I'm in
Memphis just like it make me think about
Hustle and Flow. I ain't going to lie.
>> To bump a Memphis album, you got to have
10, 12, and 15s in it.
>> That's how we record. That's how they
made the beats to make sure the woofers
was
>> wow. You know, shout out DJ Squeegee, DJ
Paul, Juicy J.
>> You name it, man. You have to have that
energy cuz let me tell you, I saw Al
Capone and the way how he was hyping
everybody up and he keep going and he
was going I'm like and he was doing I
think it was the gangster walk he was
doing start a fight.
>> Yeah, he was doing it all across the
stage and I'm like
about to start a fight. See why I said
they was we was gangster. We gangster.
>> Y'all real gangster with it.
>> Who gave you the name little chap?
>> I gave it to myself. Hey,
>> you did you know my real name Chassity.
So I was name my daughter name.
>> Okay.
>> Yeah, that's crazy.
>> Yeah, my real name Chassity. And u I was
battling between what my name was going
to be. I started out with uh little oimo
cuz everybody smoke back in the days.
Then I started off with Cha Cha. C H A C
H A. And then one day I just said little
chat. And I spelled the L A C H A T
because everybody was L I L. So I ain't
want to be. So I made the different in
my name like little chat. You still wait
>> because when I heard I'm like okay do
you like to talk a lot? Why they say
call you little chat?
>> Yeah.
>> I was trying to figure it out but Okay.
>> It just I came up with it.
>> I wanted to know how how did you Was it
Was it Chicken Head that made How did
you meet 365? Was that what brought
y'all together? Was it before that?
>> No. Yeah. Um it was a guy by the name
Little. Shout out Little No, you know
just Jay and DJ P used to do a lot of
mixtapz. Okay. And uh this is way back
like 1994, 1995.
>> Okay.
>> And um
uh I ran across Little Noah. He was one
of the ones that was on Juicy J mixtape.
>> Okay.
>> And we was going to summer school.
That's how long ago it was. And u
>> let me see. 8th grade summer school.
That's how long ago it was. And um I was
telling him I can rap. I was like I can
rap. I can rap. It's like man. Okay. So
we end up having a talent show. He end
up winning first place of course cuz he
was known. I ain't winning second place.
So man, you can rap for real. I'm going
to tell Juicy you can rap. I was like,
"Yeah, right here. I ain't going to tell
Juicy I can rap."
>> And then one day I got a phone call. I
was like, "What's up? This this Juicy I
heard you can rap."
>> I was like, "Yeah." He was like, "Spit
some." And I'm like, "Well, my mom at
home."
Cuz I was like 14, 13, 14 years old.
>> He was like, "Oh man, I thought you
wanted to rap, man. You don't want to
rap?" And I was like, "This
chance." He called me back at 12:00
midnight. I'll never forget. He said,
"Hey, how you doing?" This Jordan, he
kind all juicy and Jordan.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> He said, "I heard you can rap." I said,
"I can." This time I walked out the
door, walked up the street, around the
corner, around the corner, and I just
wrapped. I wrapped my ass off. Wow.
Like, damn, you can rap. And I was like,
"Yeah." He was like, "Man, I want to get
you on something." I said, "Okay." And
uh he came like 3 days later with the
little uh recorder thing that you hit
the record and play and the microphone
and the headphones in the living room
and he dropped Pop Chey drop. And when
it came out it was me and Crunchy Black.
It was like a Juicer J 16. That was way
back in 1994.
>> Oo 1994.
>> Mhm.
>> And and you know I just but like I I'm
so amazed at at at what you guys were
able to accomplish. You know what I
mean?
>> Because you know, really rap, hip hop,
that's entrepreneurship. You know what I
mean? Of course, we having a good time
with it. Our culture, we dope. Our
people, we dope. And it's like, man,
when I seen that, I just thought that it
was just the dopest thing to see that
movement with you with you guys. You
know what I'm saying?
>> Cuz of course, Chicken Head was the
biggest break, but I had been rapping
with them on Mr. Styles and
>> really stuff. But when Pat put me on the
Chicken Head, that went platinum.
>> That went platinum. And it was up from
that's when everybody knew. What was the
crazy What's the craziest thing a fan
ever did when they seen you?
>> Cry.
>> Boy, don't trip.
>> They make me cry. I'm like, "Don't do
it." I was going so many cities and they
was crying. I'm like, "Where did y'all
think?" And they make me cry,
>> man. And And what did your mama think
about this? Cuz you was young.
>> My mom You was young.
>> I'm tell my mom. My mom used to do like
I was in junior high cuz I used to do
shout out my brother make the one last
when they down do karaoke rapping and
stuff. And uh my mom used to always
search my room and then she'll find my
raps and be like, "Who writing these
nasty letters? WHO YOU WRITE THESE
LETTERS TO?" LIKE, "MOM, stay out of my
room." But all the time she didn't get
it. She didn't know. And then all a
sudden she found out I was rapping. She
like my biggest fan.
>> Wow.
>> She want to go to the neighbors say this
my daughter. She need my daughter. I'LL
BE LIKE, "MOM, YOU CANNOT GIVE ME PEOPLE
my music."
>> She she telling them everything,
>> man. and she wanted to tell everybody my
daughter rap my mom my daughter rap want
to pass my CDs I'm like no mom you can't
do it
>> was she listening to rap before that or
she never she never listen my biggest
fan so you know I used to take her to
shows and take her to arenas and she
just love she's my biggest fan that's
crazy
>> well one of the things that that
happened out here is um Gangster Boo
passed away and
>> how was you how was you and your
relationship
>> yeah in the mid in the beginning
>> let's be
in the beginning. Okay, you already know
um Buu was a DJ Paul rapper and I was a
Juicy J rapper
>> and so DJ Paul and Juicy J came together
and they put the group together and um
>> you know Boo was used to being Ganga Boo
and I was a fan. I'm a Boo fan, you
know, because she sold Memphis.
>> That's right. And uh when I came around,
you know, she
>> she she thought that we was want, you
know, thought competition. Yeah. And
then she end up realizing that I didn't
want to play. You see what I'm saying?
And um
>> one day um cuz she used to come to my
house a lot and uh we used to bump heads
a lot at first.
>> Yeah.
>> But we we still was we still the only
ones who understood each other.
>> That's dope. And so one day um she was
like I had to tell her like boo we was
in the car together and she you know she
made a little statement and I said boo
I'm not in competition with you. I said
I just want to get some money in this. I
said that's all I want to do. I said I'm
not in competition with you. And then
she thought about it. She said
you know what you ain't in competition
with me. Now first she was like no Chad
everybody every female want to be that
one. Everybody I said but not me. not
me. I just want to get some money in
this [ __ ] That's all I want to do.
>> And then she started thinking. She said,
"Well, yeah, you know what? You right.
>> You right in competition with me." Cuz
she with me every day. And she saw my
life is still today.
>> Wow.
>> Is life, not music. Music is a hobby.
Always been
>> music always been a hobby for me. That's
probably why
>> priorities are straight.
>> Yeah. You know, so she she she saying
she said, "You know what? You're right.
You you you don't want to be in
competition with you don't you know and
from that point on we've been best of
sus I got her name tatted on my
>> chest right here Lola that's her name
>> and you put it on your chest
>> how did it affect you when she passed
>> oh man you know she was here in Memphis
and um me her drama boy crunchy was
doing a video that's the only reason why
she was here
>> and it was um around Christmas time and
she really was supposed to have been
gone but she wanted to stay over for New
Year's cuz AB her favorite rapper Aball
MJG.
>> Yeah.
>> And they had a New Year's Day uh show
and she wanted to stay over for that and
>> you know she actually text me that night
because her brother had overdosed first.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> And she was mad. She was like girl Eric
he he gone to the hospital somewhere. He
took some bad stuff. And I'm like what?
Oh man.
>> So she called you?
>> Yeah.
>> How long before she passed away did he
pass?
>> He didn't pass.
>> Oh okay. He just overdosed and went to
made it to the hospital cuz he was at a
club the night eightball them was doing
their show.
>> Okay. Okay.
>> It was in the club when he overdosed
>> and the ambulance rushed him to the
hospital so he was a to be saved.
>> Okay.
>> And so you know I talked to her and she
was mad at him. She like oh he made me
see woo woo. And then it was like,
"Okay, got it found like 3:00 a.m." So
the next morning I woke up because we
supposed to been getting back in the
studio doing some more music uh the
second day of New Year's and u I was
like, "Hey, how e you know that's our
brother night." I ain't no respond. I
like I'll boost your sleep maybe. And
then Crunchy called me was like, "Yeah,
chat. Boo just passed over." I'm like,
"Wow,
>> you just told
>> Just right after that like no she dying.
Yes, she did." you know, like I couldn't
believe it. And so, you know, me and
Crouch went over there and Yeah. she was
she
>> Y went over where?
>> Went over to her auntie house where she
was at her.
>> Y'all went there right when she was
there.
>> I had to cuz she was in Memphis and I
you know, her body was still there. I
had to.
>> Really? How was that for you though?
>> M killed me. Killed me. And then they
left her out so long. They left her body
out so long.
It hurt me, you know. I couldn't
>> Was she in the bed? was sh
>> she was slumped over um on the porch
like she probably got hot they said by
looking on the camera like you know she
had some bad stuff and she went outside
and when she went outside she tumbled
>> she was there you know so
>> this is during the summer time when you
say she got hot it must have been was it
during the summer time
>> well uh it was January but you know the
stuff probably made you know yeah I just
I just say you know I don't I don't know
where it came from, but I know it was no
other deaths.
>> That's correct.
>> Around.
>> You see what I'm saying? So,
>> I don't know where it came from, how it
came from. You know, she stayed in LA.
She was just here to be
>> just here to be
>> busy. And it bothers me because I feel
like if it was a bad batch, she would
have been other depths, too.
>> You're right.
>> Why? She was the only death. You see
what I'm saying?
>> But I never know, you know, where it
came from, how it came from. I mean, you
know,
>> when you hear stuff like that, people
always think of as a conspiracy, like
>> somebody did that purposely.
>> Yeah. But it's all good. You know, we
just glad nobody didn't just, you know,
hurt her. She
>> She went out doing what she wanted to
do,
>> you know. Um
>> I just hate the fact that she didn't get
to be married, get to have kids. I've
been married twice. I divorced twice.
Just let y'all know. I divorced a [ __ ]
twice.
>> And you have a child. So she ain't had
no time to be married, you know, um have
no kids.
>> And that's something that she wanted to
do.
>> Yeah. And that's all she wanted to do.
>> You know, we were so caught up in
rapping. That's why now, you know, with
my relationship, I've been public with
my relationship about four years now.
>> We always hid our relationships because
we always wanted to be female rappers
and we wanted to just focus on us
rapping and we wanted to keep our fans,
but if you our fans, you going to love
us anyway. So, you know,
>> but that was the thing back in the days.
Men and women did that. It's like they
hid relationships because they felt like
they were going to lose,
>> you know, fans and stuff because
>> and we do and we do lose them and you
know, but they ain't real fans though.
>> Yeah, that's right.
>> So, yeah. Yeah. She wanted it. She
wanted it real bad.
>> How hard is it for a woman though um to
chase her career, especially in the
music industry, and have to put off
kids? Cuz one thing I realized that
women when they start having kids, they
tend to back off from the music and time
passes and when time pass that can mess
up your career cuz you as a mom, not
like a man that can still do their
career, you got to spend time nurturing
that child. Plus the body, you got to
get a body back and it's a lot have to
go with being a mom. Great question
because I always say the industry or
entertainment is not for a woman to
chase. You know, it's all for you to get
your money, get in it, and get out of it
or, you know, balance it out because the
children always come first,
>> you know. Um, my my my son was um I want
to say he could have been about
two, three when I started and then I
kept on doing it. But he spent a lot of
time with my mom.
>> Okay. So he's like a grandma baby cuz I
was on the road and you know we think
cuz we send money and
>> we make sure that they good. My son tell
me the day he thought my mama was buying
all this stuff he had
we think we doing something but all the
time you know they going off who they
see raised them and then you know we
missing out on their lifetime. Uh my mom
was writing letters like uh he couldn't
do his homework cuz he fell asleep like
he fell asleep you know at the time you
know my son
>> going to take up for him too.
>> Yeah. My son was behind in school you
know it was a whole lot going on. So I
really think that you know you shouldn't
it's not for a woman to chase. You know
it's very hard because you got to be a
mother to them children if you going to
have them. don't have no children and
think you going be put the industry
first or entertainment first because it
don't work that way.
>> But then sometimes you put it off and
chase the career and by the time you
turn around you too old to have start
having the kids.
>> Yeah.
>> You know what I mean? So it's like it's
a catch 22. Like which one should you
do?
>> I don't know cuz I just feel like if you
get pregnant while you in time let it
go. And you you you basically um you was
in you in the um Player Fly.
>> That was early on.
What was what was that like? Was that um
>> Was that your first? That wasn't your
first um
>> No, no, no, no.
>> Okay.
>> No,
>> my first what?
>> No, I'm saying the legend player fly.
Not your first name. That's a guy name.
That's Listen, baby. She don't listen to
music like that. No, that that's she did
some music with them.
>> Yeah. Play by my home. And that's a
homeboy and they did a song. I was just
saying how early the music. Let me get
on. Okay. I'm just saying how early the
music was.
>> No, do what we talking about here. So So
we talking ABOUT
>> So So but but how I'm talking about far
as music wise, how was it? And and was
that was that was the that was the first
start of your music career?
>> That's what I meant.
>> That's what I meant. You made uh working
with Player Fly.
>> Working with Player Fly. Yeah.
>> Well, really working with Leno. I met
Player Fly. I think he was on DJ Paul's
side. Okay.
>> Like I said, DJ Paul and Juicy J end up
putting their rappers together.
>> Okay.
>> DJ Paul and Lord Infamous um Crunchy
Black, Ganga Boo, and Player Fly.
>> Okay,
>> I want to say I might be wrong. Juicy my
hair player apply but Juicy Jay had me
little
um
project.
>> Yeah.
>> And you know they just had and then when
they came together it brought us all
together.
>> Okay.
>> Okay. You did you did Gangster with
>> Tommy Wright.
>> Yeah.
>> That was Tom Wright. Yeah. And people
love this town.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You like I said you
you a dope dope dope man in Memphis man.
Like do you feel like was it like once
Ganga Boo she she passes on do you feel
like more of a low people like depended
on you to like you the music girl down
here?
>> Well they was you see what I'm saying?
See what happened was boo been dead like
3 years and I actually took the three
years off. I'm just getting back to my
music. I got a new album coming out
gangster girl. uh grown gangster. I
mean, because I'm still gangster. I'm
just grown with it now. It going to be
produced by DJ Squeaky. Uh I'm just
getting back to work. I took three years
off on purpose because
>> a lot of people was expecting me to just
start running with the torch and doing
this and doing I'm talking about
everybody. When I tell you Foxy Brown,
when I tell you uh my a lot of big big
people hit me up and and they they want
to express that you know she loves you
don't you know you I was like I know you
know
>> they knew that I was her sister they
knew you know by her talking you know
and she'll tell you and she please y'all
better not compare me and boo together
front of boo going to get mad.
>> That's right.
>> Boo going to cuss you out. They want to
be like you better than Chad Chad better
than you. She don't do that. You know,
we got to that point
>> that
>> she didn't want to hear it. And so, um,
>> yeah, I know people expecting me. So, I
died it down because I'm like, y'all got
to be crazy. This is my friend. This is
my sister. I'm not trying to
>> I don't even know how to go on without
her. You know what I'm saying? It was so
hard. It used to be a lot of times we
couldn't have this conversation.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Like soon her name brought
up it instantly brought tears to me. I
instantly had to stop and because I
can't believe it.
>> I've been knowing this girl. I was
13. She was 12 when we met.
>> Wow. That's a long time.
>> 3 years from now I want to say so
I was 45
and she was 44
>> when she died, you know. And um
>> we were best of friends. Like we weren't
we weren't even wrapped up in boo and
chat. We was chassed and logo.
>> Hey.
>> And it was to the point that if I didn't
contact her, she'd be like, "You ain't
call me today. You need to check up on
me." Like I I might say like I'm okay,
but I'm not okay. Like I used to catch
myself explain to her like she was my
dude.
>> Be like, "No, boo. I had to do this."
You know, like what the you know,
because I cared about it and I cared
about the way I made her feel. I never
want her to feel like that I was um
>> too busy for her,
>> too busy, neglecting. And um she end up,
you know, looking up to me. She used to
always say
>> she wanted to get a bracelet or a
necklace called WWC.
It that stand for what do
and I was like, you know why she was
like, man, you need to get a podcast or
you need to do something called what
would Chad do. And that came from
she used to say helped her been a be a
better person. I'm going tell something
about Boo. Boo is the black M Maro.
>> You ain't have nothing on Boo. She going
to tell you what she want to tell you.
She going to give it to you how she is.
And you cannot be her being cocky. And
she stood on it for real. And she had
every right to do it. But you know, she
end up, you know, like she end up saying
like, "What would Chad do then?" Then
>> you should buy you should buy that
bracelet and wear that.
>> I should because I never forget it. And
she she was like,
>> "It's in honor of her."
>> Mhm.
>> You know what I mean? or put change it
and said what would boo do?
>> Yeah.
>> You know, but um how how Okay, I know
you couldn't talk about her before, but
what did you do? Because there's so many
people out here who watch who might be
going through that um tragedy that they
just went through and can't talk about
it. How do you get over that where now
you can talk about it just to be in
reverence of her memory? Well, every
year you every year I throw a birthday
party for her right here in Memphis and
I let everybody in free and you know get
cakes made her family come out and
everything. And um
>> her death date I play her music on
YouTube for 3 hours. But
>> I just had to, you know, let her name
live on. I had to go on be strong and do
what I know that she'll want me to do.
>> I couldn't just keep being a coward,
>> right? I couldn't just keep being
because she always said I was the strong
one
>> and and I was like no, you know, I was
so weak. I I never thought that I would
have been so weak.
>> And um I had to just, you know, live up
our legacy and I had to keep her name
going because when ain't nobody
screaming gangster boo, I am.
>> That's that's amazing. I love that. Her
name will never die because so many
people loved her. You know what I mean?
So, I see you wearing them gold and you
look gorgeous in them gold.
>> Thank you. Thank you.
>> But I know a lot of people cuz that was
a thing back in the day where everybody
I know every city is different. Some
cities is still popping, but I see a lot
of people switching to them veneers.
>> Yeah.
>> Is it something that you would ever get
out of these gold? Nah.
>> Never. I'm like dark skin gold teeth.
You know we in that.
>> Let me get back in here.
I just feel like, you know, the do the
go tea part of my culture that it's just
going to be me. I'm 48 years old. I
ain't took them out before then. Why
I'mma take them out now? Because it's a
trend. Everybody It's like everybody
whether they was doing the diamonds or
they're doing the gold, everybody's
taking them out to do them pretty white
veneers because they're permanent,
right?
>> Yeah, they permanent. But I get them
redone. Like uh this is like my third
set. Mhm.
>> I first got them when I was 19 and I
start out with 10 carat. So they the
darker. I end up knowing like like these
22 carats. If I get 24, they'll be even
lighter.
>> So I end up learning that the lighter
the higher you get, the lighter lighter
they be.
>> So I start out with 10 carat. I look
back at some of my old pictures, the the
gold is dark.
>> And then I end up getting 14 carat. It
was darker. And then now I got 22 carat.
the next time
>> 24
>> probably in the next 5 years or so.
Yeah. And if you 24K, they'll be even
lighter, you know. But they real gold.
They don't come out, you know.
>> But then, okay. So, when you change
them, they take them off. You know, when
people are doing veneers now, they do
different things. Some people get um
permanent and screw them in. Some people
shave them down. You see those videos
where they have them shave them down,
put them on top. When they get gold, are
your teeth shaved down underneath or
they replaced?
>> Well, now they shave them down. Oh, so
it's just like and you don't regard,
believe it or not, your best teeth is
the ones under the do
>> really
>> because they is in the case. They're in
the frame.
>> Oh,
>> all these other teeth is gone. I put
should have been putting do on them.
>> Okay.
>> You know, cuz I pull them, but these
like my best teeth,
>> but they said because they're shaved,
it's not like if you take them off,
you're going to walk around with shaved
teeth anyway. So,
>> no. We really they shave them down so
they they won't be touching each other.
Yeah. So they really be straight. They
shave.
>> Oh. So they didn't shave cuz the ones I
see for the veneers, they shave the
sides down. So you would look like a
monster if you took those out. You know
what I mean? Cuz they shaved down on the
side like real skinny
>> to be able to put them on. It's not like
they shave them down like there.
>> Oh
>> yeah. So it Yeah. I've seen some people
when they take them out and show it to
you and I'm like really?
>> Yeah. You can't not have those in.
>> When you
when Cardi B made Bick and Head,
>> did she ever say anything about you or
to you to show homage at all?
>> No. And you know the crazy part about it
like um it really didn't bother me for
real. For real.
>> But they had the who run it challenge
out and you know so she just really gave
me a subject you know. So, I did the
Whoani challenge. I spoke facts on it
and um when you think about it, you
know, she did thank Project Pad, Juicy
J, DJ Paul, and didn't say nothing about
me. But you like, boy, please whatever
you using my words. So,
>> like, you know, so I had to, you know.
>> So, did did
when you heard it, what did you think at
first when you first heard?
>> Boo was the one that let me HEAR IT.
>> WAS IT
HE WITH THAT? OH. OH, IT GOT SERIOUS
QUICK. I TOLD YOU IT GOT SERIOUS.
>> Boo was the one put me up on MySpace.
Boo the one put me up on Twitter. That's
good stuff.
>> Like I really on everything.
>> Like I said, Mir just been a hobby to
me. Boo was the one that let me know
about the Twitter, MySpace, Facebook.
>> She put you up on game.
>> She put me up on the big end. And I was
like, uh-uh. Okay.
>> That she was your dog. That's why she
did that. She like, "Girl, you didn't
hear it."
>> Mhm. And so they had the who run it
challenge out. Then I was like, "Yeah,
let me go and write this real quick."
And it went so far to the point that a
lot of people think that um she had it
took him down, but I had it took him
down
>> because
I wasn't looking for that. You know, my
my son was locked up. My son was facing
three life sentences. I'm a real
spiritual person. That's real. And I
believe in when you do stuff like that
and beef, it's like you selling your
soul. I ain't want it that way.
>> You see what I'm saying? I didn't want
the fame to come back cuz everybody was
chat chat chat check scared me. I was
like, DAMN, I LOVE I WANT I WAS TRYING
TO DO THAT.
>> I just was trying to do the who
challenge. And then
>> my brother end up telling me after I
deleted, he was like, "Well, it don't
matter how they took it. You just know
you didn't put it that way. you should
have kept it that way. I'm like, well,
it's too late now because I'm thinking
like I've been praying to God and trying
to get my son home that I don't want him
to feel like that
>> I'm going left. You see what I'm saying?
I'm trying to run everything by boo. I
brought my son home.
>> Hey, you know, so around them times,
real difficult times, but you know,
other than that, I meant what I said
though.
>> Wow.
>> Yeah. I still stand on it. you know,
people that get in this music industry,
they don't be okay. One of the I've
asked a few people this um shout out to
KLC. I remember I asked him, I said if
there's anything you could go back and
change and his his uh he said the
contract, the way he started this thing
off because you learning so much when
you first start.
>> I give that same question to you. when
you first started out, how difficult it
was it trying to understand how to
maneuver in the music industry, split
sheets, stuff that really you you don't
know, you can't know. I even give when I
talk about Birdman, I get upset with
people a lot of time cuz they be like,
"Man, Burman, you didn't got over." No,
he didn't even know starting out. So,
how was it for you starting out trying
to understand this stuff?
>> Yeah. Okay. So I'm I'm going to say do
you want do you want to ask that
question or do you want to ask what
would I regret? What would I come back
>> you know you do two sometime you did two
earlier she said first pimp this and
this yeah you you diverse you can handle
it.
>> So the first one you we could just say
like yeah the just like you explained to
just give me the give me your answer the
contract
>> the contract.
Well, I thought I had it all figured
out, you know. So,
>> even when you started?
>> Even when I started.
>> You thought you was on it like that?
>> I thought I read.
>> Who educated you enough to understand
that?
>> I just read it.
>> And you felt like you knew it.
>> I felt like I knew it.
>> Wow. But you didn't.
>> I didn't.
>> But you want to know what I regret?
>> What you regret?
>> I regret fighting them about it.
>> That's why I like that.
>> Yeah.
>> Why?
>> Because, you know, they was the ones who
brought me in the industry. And um you
know um when I start asking about the
money for the checks and stuff and and
Juicy was like um man Chad I don't know
get a lawyer you know cuz I was signed
to another label not the label they was
signed to but when I got the lawyer the
lawyer end up separating us. They end up
like okay well we got to do it like
this. They can't speak to you. You can't
speak to them. And that that was not
part of the plan. You see what I'm
saying? And by me getting lawyers
involved, I had to follow, you know, the
procedures that they did.
>> But you said he said to get a lawyer.
>> Yeah. But we didn't know that the lawyer
was going to separate us, you know,
because when you got a disagreement,
it's like, okay, now we got to separate
y'all. Don't y'all contact her. She
can't contact y'all. Y'all contact each
other through a
>> through. Right. Right.
>> And I'm like, I just was in the studio
with them, you know, every day. You
know, we had fun. You know, these it was
like I was it was like a a heartache.
You know, I broke I I woke up. Keep in
mind I with these guys, you know, they
they was the first ones that brought me
in the industry. And so it was like a it
was a heartbreak for me doing it because
they end up having to call me through
other people.
>> They wanted me to record in another
studio and I just like no. You know what
I'm saying? So
>> I hated that. I hated that because I
didn't expect that, you know, because
it's not like I didn't make money with
them.
>> I just asked about the check from the
album. Other than that, I still was
doing verses and, you know, getting show
money and doing stuff like that. And um
we end up being separated and then to
the point it went on so long until I
just like just let me go because I was
on stand still,
>> man.
>> I couldn't move forward. I couldn't do
verses. I couldn't, you know, Paul told
me one day Paul said, "You know what,
Chad? I like you.
>> Matter of fact, I love you. He said,
"I'mma let you go." He said, "But you
going to regret that you left us, but
I'mma let you go." I said, "Well, at
this point, you know, I just got to get
let go so I can move forward."
>> Yeah.
>> And I moved forward and we we still
friends today.
>> But did it did it hurt? Did Did you
regret it like he said?
>> Well, no.
And and and again, this was another
question I want to ask cuz when you said
that, you say y'all couldn't talk. How
long were you guys separated from being
able to talk or how long did you
separate?
>> So from the time I got the law until
years,
man.
>> Guessing guessing.
>> 10 years.
>> I started talking back to Juicy when I
did the the the the uh Vlad interview.
>> Really?
>> Yeah. So I hadn't talked to him since
then. Like we was
>> we was separated like
>> 20 years.
>> 20 years. And it was like Yeah. Paul, I
ain't talked to him, you know. But
>> And you missed them?
>> Yeah, I missed them.
>> How was the reunion when y'all first
talked?
>> Oh man, it was it was beautiful. It was
uh it was scary cuz you know, we all
hadn't seen each other and talked to
each other, but it was beautiful. I
cried. Juice
me and it was somebody that booked us on
the show together. And keep in mind,
Juice is the one that discovered me.
Juice is the one little Noah had to call
me. So, um, I cried when I, uh, bumped
back into him and, you know, everything
was beautiful.
>> That, that's I love that story. I got to
ask you, did you want to ask somebody? I
see you prepping up.
>> Um, how important is God in your life?
Cuz I heard you mention God earlier and
say you were um, you are a very
spiritual person, but
>> tell me how important is God in your
life? and tell me a time where you can
reflect on and know that it if it wasn't
for God, God saved my life or it could
have went left.
>> Give me that instance.
>> God is very important in my life. Like
I'm I'm not the person that got to walk
around with Bibles and claim Christian
and God this that that God is very
important in my life. And u even when my
son was facing three years them three
life sentences,
>> right?
I had three emotion discoveries and I
prayed to God before I cuz I pray to God
before I do anything.
>> Mhm.
>> And I prayed to God. I said I looked at
the and I before I did, he had three
cases,
>> three big cases. And I like, you know, I
told God to let me see things that other
people can't see.
>> I got it.
>> I said, God, let me read through this
and and see things that other people
can't see. And he did that. You know, I
start seeing things. My my son tell
people today, my mama, my lawyer,
>> but he just didn't know it was all God.
You see what I'm saying? And I had never
been through that before in my life. And
my son was just getting in trouble back
to back to back. And you discovered it
back to back to back.
>> And I went in there discovering and you
know, he had charge pers. And I wrote
down their sizes, their heights, they I
wrote down stuff that didn't matter. The
the the hand that this person said the
gun was in, the color, the this that
that. And so when we was going through
trial and I was like ask him ask him is
this the taller person or the shorter
person you know and the guy that that
they they was describing was taller than
my son
>> and they was like uh so was he the
taller one you the shorter one
>> they were talking about my son cuz he
was going to try by himself and u the
guy said he was the taller one. Mas
and it was just the loot stuff that got
him. You know they said he was holding
the gun in the right hand. I had already
told the attorney look we got to ask
this. So the whole
>> I was using you
>> the whole trial the lawyer told my son
to take notes and my son left-handed
told him to take notes and he writing
the left hand. So he asked me said so
what what hand the u you know defender
was holding? He said he was holding his
right hand. He told the jury, he said,
"If y'all look, my p my client been
taking notes. He's left-handed." You
know, you just was little stuff God let
me see.
>> And I said, "Don't play with him,
>> man. I'm over here."
>> That's amazing.
>> I'm over here researching. I Dolph said
you was his favorite rapper ever.
I'm I'm over here researching. That's
hard right there. You know, when I seen
it pop up, I said, "Oh, shoot. That's
hard. That's too
>> How does that How does that that make
you feel for him to say that?
>> It made me feel real good. And he wasn't
as big as he is today.
>> You see what I'm saying? And he loved
me.
>> That's right.
>> He made me and he he it came out of
nowhere. And the thing is he called me
because he was going to do a movie and
he wanted me to be in the movie.
>> He did.
>> Yeah.
>> And he said that she the hardest ever.
>> Yeah. He that's when he hit his um he
hit his um stories and he said, "Hey
Chad, you know you my favorite female
rapper of all time." My favorite rapper
of all time. Let me say that.
>> Yeah, he meant that.
>> Man, that's hard.
>> He meant that. You know that made me
look tell you something one thing about
Dolph that memory that I'll never
forget.
>> Come on now.
>> RP to Dolph.
>> Okay. Shout out DJ Squeaky. I remember
DJ Squeaky. You know Dolph was just
coming up and I never do this again to
nobody. And uh DJ Squeaker was like,
"Man, you know Dolph wanted to get you
on the song." I had never heard of
Dolph. I didn't know who Dolph was.
>> I just was like, he was like, "Yeah, you
go be at the studio,
>> man." I ain't show up.
>> What?
>> I stood Dolph up like a [ __ ]
man. I
>> Yep. Yep. Yep. And then um
>> he just started blowing. He started
blowing up, blowing up, blowing up. And
I was like, "Damn, I can't believe." And
then so one day again it came back
around again. He was like, "Man, Chad, I
gotta get you on this song. Gotta get
you on this song." Showed up. I dropped
the verse and he weren't there. And he
came back and he called me. He said,
"Man, I ain't putting this [ __ ]
song out." I said, "Why you ain't
putting the song?" He said, "Man, you
killed me on your song."
He said, "Man, you got me want to
rewrite my verse." I SAID, "COME ON,
DOG. Now you do, man." He He was so for
real. We never put the song out for
real.
But every time we saw each other, man,
it was big big little big
>> man. So
all that time crunchy black. Did you and
him talk
during the time when y'all when you
weren't talking you and Crunch Crunchy
Black or No,
>> no, we didn't.
>> Do Do y'all still do y'all talk?
>> Yeah, we talking now. Me and Crunchy got
an album out called Hood. We just years
ago. and and and how how was it doing
that album with him after y'all hadn't
talked in all them years? I'm going
somewhere. You see what I'm saying?
>> Like, you know, we always just like with
everybody. We me and Pat, we just did
the um Grizzlies halftime last weekend.
Every time we come around each other,
it's like we never left each other.
>> That's hard. I love I love I love the
way I love the way that you are.
>> I told you that from the time I met you.
>> Yeah. Even when I pass you and I girl,
you I'm just like that. Like I don't see
no strangers. My wife know that
>> all the time.
>> I meet people and I talk to people like
I've been doing them forever cuz I love
people.
>> So when I seen you, you didn't walk by
me like you ain't just talking to me on
the phone. She like, I'm going over
here. I'll be back. She didn't know
that. But I I loved it though. I loved
it cuz it just real.
>> I like real.
>> Yeah.
>> Don't you like real?
>> Yeah. I love real. So it it's a real
transition. It's it's like we ain't this
all and that's why I think the show
works for us. You know what I mean? It's
because of the way I keep it organic,
right?
>> Yeah.
>> And I thank God for you, man. I'm going
to be real with you. Like I'm coming
back down here. You don't even know what
I do for the people I love. Come.
>> No, I'm I'm probably going to get you to
Dallas cuz you got to come see me.
>> Like I might just say, "Hey, come up
here for a day or something and book
your flight." I'm thrilled. That's what
I'm telling. That's why I'm careful on
who I make myself vulnerable to.
>> I told the lady that she was trying to
meet me the other day. She was like, I
want to I was like I used to be with She
named some big company. I said, "Well,
babe, I'm going to be honest with you.
I'm not I don't even want to meet you
cuz I don't want to even make myself
vulnerable."
>> Yeah.
>> Does that Does that make sense? Yeah.
>> Cuz once you expose yourself to certain
people, it can be abused.
>> Yeah.
>> Am I tripping?
>> No, you ain't. and see shout out to
Alapone too because Alapone made that
call the other night. It's not usually
that somebody can call me and be like
they want to do an interview that but
>> when I heard you in the background I'm
going tell you what was the key word
that got me. What was it?
>> What I say girl?
>> Me and my wife.
>> Hey
I said okay then
>> that's hard right?
YEAH, THAT mean I don't think I don't I
really don't think
>> I'm all for the women. I'm all for the
you know I'm all for the the the team
stuff, you know, people that believe in
their mates, people that believe in
their spouses like there's no other
partner than it. So when he was like me
and my wife did this podcast and bling
cuz I don't see a lot of cuz you know
since people been bringing that up to us
cuz we just do what we do so I don't
really just think about it. You know
what I mean? So when people started
saying that, I started right really
looking. I'm like, "Oh, you know what? I
don't really see a lot of husband and
wife podcast, especially for us."
>> You see a lot of people in competition
when you talk,
>> right? I see I see men on there. I see
women do women thing. And even with
podcast, they do podcast that only talk
about certain topics. We talk about
everything.
>> Yeah. We don't wish anybody in this
>> the only other couple that I know that
used to do it is Ti and Tiny, but then
they had stopped.
>> Yeah.
>> That that I didn't Nobody else that I've
seen that that did it.
>> Yeah.
>> I think I just want to tell you thank
you so much. But I got to ask you your
top three artists of all time did
>> Dead or Alive. Any genre. Ask everybody.
>> How many?
>> Top three.
>> Any genre.
>> Any genre, too. So that would make it a
little throw.
>> Okay. I got to say Ga Bu because she's
the best female rapper
>> to me. You see what I'm saying? Like
>> I don't even bump other female rappers.
>> Wow.
>> Because I can't learn nothing from them.
Not saying they not good. Not saying
that they not dope. They just not on
what we own,
>> right?
>> You see what I'm saying? We on something
different.
>> Wow.
>> We we we we raised different and like
shout out Glow. Shout out to Gorilla cuz
uh she from Memphis and she she doing
her thing from Memphis and we ain't the
reason. It's the city. You see what I'm
saying? It's it's our culture. It's our
water. It's our anybody that come upon
us, they going to be the same way. You
see what I'm saying? So,
>> you know, I bump glow, but you know,
she's younger than me. But I got to say
Ganga Boo is uh one of my favorite
>> number one. Yeah. One of your favorites.
>> Um Project Pat,
>> man. And I like that.
>> And number three, uh, finesse two times.
>> I met that boy. That boy, that's my guy
right there.
>> Let me get Let me get s
boy be rapping. I was in the studio with
him. That boy rapping. I said, "It sound
like the song, [ __ ] You [ __ ] sound
like the song, nigga." So I a lot of
times I hear females, you see a lot of
successful female rappers, right? But
then you see a lot of upcoming ones that
will say it's hard to come up being a
female rapper because too many men stop
us from coming up. Whether it be because
you in the studios and you're trying to
do the best you can do, but they trying
to get into your pants or they trying to
do this or they're trying to do that,
you know, trying to use it your career
as like hostage like, oh, if you give me
this then you can get that, whatever.
How hard was it for you? And did you see
is that really an obstacle or can is it
because you're not holding yourself
serious enough in what you do why you're
coming up against stuff like that?
>> See this the thing I can't be
controlled. So you know you got a lot of
men that try to use their power and and
it depends on the woman. They ain't
making you go. They ain't making you do
these things. You know you got a lot of
women that feel like that if they do it
they gonna get further. But to me is
like what do you call further if you
still making money in it? That's just
like I might not be on the radio today.
I might not ain't sold a million copies
but I'm still making money in it.
>> Come on now.
>> So how can you not say I ain't made it
when I'm booked every weekend. I'm
booked. I just my since September like
last weekend and this weekend my uh off
days I had but I'm back on the road next
week. I'm back I got to be in
Birmingham. I got to be in rural
Illinois. I got to be in New York, you
know. So, it's like what do you call
making it?
>> Like, if you still making money, that's
you made it. It ain't what do you call
it? What is the limit?
>> You see what I'm saying? So,
>> it's just all about the women, you know?
Stop making it seem like it's the men
that's doing it. If you feel that way
and you go, you done it. You know,
because there's a lot of women that feel
like they can [ __ ] their way up
>> and they don't know that's down,
>> right? They respect you more when you
don't do that.
>> Yeah. Everybody's always looking for
somebody else to blame instead of taking
accountability. Really what it boils
down to,
>> man. Let me let me just be real with
you, man. I done failed for you. My dog,
man. I'm I'm going to make sure to keep
That's the one thing about I told you I
don't like I'm serious about
relationships.
I deal with who I deal with
>> and I'm serious about it and that's how
I roll. I'm just going to say that. Um,
I want to tell you thank you for coming
on show. How can people get a hold of
you if they trying to link up with you,
book your bring you to Dallas?
>> Okay. Well, y'all got
>> bring you to Houston.
>> I got a manager. His name Big F. I don't
know nothing about her, but
it's
>> in your bio.
>> Y'all can DM him. Yep. On uh Instagram
is Phil 2008. Uh it's William Grant on
um Facebook.
>> Facebook. Shout out Big F. He's mine. He
he been around for years years and he's
honest my I trust him with my life. Um
but y also can follow me on IG is little
chat l a c h a t iig. Y'all can follow
me on Twitter at the real chat. That's d
a r e a l a c h a t. And y'all can also
hit up chatbookings.com.
>> Man, hold up, man. Thank you so much. We
love you.
>> Thank y'all. Thanks for loving me.
>> We appreciate you.
>> Thank God. Appreciate you for the
culture,
>> man. I try to be
>> you. I seen it.
>> They won't leave me alone.
>> I seen it. I seen it, man.
>> Hey, I learned like I said when I went
up to Kansas City, Rich the Factor I'm
opening calls, [ __ ] [ __ ] got his
pistol right there. I'm I'm up in the
car with him. I'm rocking with him, man.
They bumping this music. I come down
here. Your name ringing. You ringing. I
come walk out the door. I said, "Hey,
little Chad." They say I say she trying
to find a place to park manager run
outside. Little chat she we going to get
her right here. I don't have it. It's a
it's it's just it's it's something else.
Respect. Yeah. We had the river fence
tonight. So I tried to look I didn't
have to perform this year. Thank God. I
performed last year the year before that
year for but I still had to come out and
show love and I was just trying to look
regularly as possible and everywhere I
went they still was little chat. I was
like I'm in the crowd tonight y'all. You
got to perform every single year. You
should never miss not one because
>> No, you can't say that. No, the reason
why I booked me.
>> No, the reason why I'm saying they got
to book her.
>> I understand that. But the reason why
I'm saying that cuz I love all the
performances that were great, but you
didn't have female performances.
>> That's what she tripping on.
>> You understand what I mean? You need to
have at least one every single year.
>> That's hard.
>> They know.
>> They know. Man, thank you so much for
coming on the show.
>> We love you. It's been another great
segment of Boss Talk 101, where the
bosses talk.
>> And we out, man.
>> Yeah, we on Boss Talk 101. Yeah, we
going to talk. We going to have fun. We
be on fire. We be lit lit. It's a unique
hustle [ __ ]