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Where is the picture of him giving Kefi D a gun? Now gang banging is real in the city of Bton, California. This some serious [ __ ] Now this brother Orlando, he's a southside [ __ ] Arch enemies with the mob, Lunas Park, Hollywood, and Limehood. Those are arch enemies. At the time, death row was the biggest thing since Mother's Oatmeal. should bought about almost a thousand tickets for Pyus to come to the fight. You feel what I'm saying? Any [ __ ] out of their mind if they think they going to come to Vegas by theyself? Orlando's a gang member on that footage. Why would he stand there in the auditorium by himself? Kei D said it was three of them came together. Where was the other two men when he got into the altercation? This thing was the It's deeper than Kei D ain't the sharpest tool in the shed. >> Yeah, we on boss talk 101. Yeah, we going to talk. We going to have fun. We be on fire. We be lit, lit. It's a unique hustle. >> Check check this unique house. It's your boy ECO and I'm here with the lovely amazing official Miss Jamaica. >> Well going, you know my damn, I want y'all to stop what you're doing right now. Go like, subscribe, follow us on all social media platforms. I mean in our Tik Tok, Instagram, Facebook, Snapchat, threads, everything. Just type in Boss Talk Podcast 101 and you can find us everywhere. Thank you in advance. >> Yo yo yo. Hey man, listen man. Check it man. Make sure you do what Miss Jamaica said, man. Make sure you become a member of Boss Talk 101. Hey man, listen man. We got a very special guest in here today. He is a frequent of the show. It's certain ones we have on here. They come through and they show us love, man. This guy right here been rocking with me for a long minute, man. Ever since way back when I met him in LA, me and him sat down and we ain't stopped sitting down since, man. I told him Marvin is in the building. >> That's right. That's right. Good to be here, Boss. >> Oh, thank you for coming, man. Listen. Hey, man. Couldn't wait for the show. >> Couldn't stop in Dallas without holling at Boss Talk >> 101. WHAT A BOSSES TALK, MAN. >> We talking, >> man. And you know, um, you know, the boss talk is, uh, we've been, you know, we've been checking things out. You know, we just sit around and, you know, we try to do these shows to make sure that we keep everything cop aesthetic with all the people that view the channel. And you one of those guys that came on the channel early on. Uh, I had you viral from the moment I met you. When I brought you in here, I didn't know what were going to go on, but the Charleston White thing happened. Then also the Chris Brown thing happened. When I spoke about Chris Brown in here, boom. You know, it went crazy because people started saying, you know, oh, he got called out. You know what I'm saying? And then the next thing, you know, we talking about Whitney Houston and Bobby Brown, baby. You know what I'm talking about? It got crazy. I wasn't used to that kind of notoriety. You know, I rob banks, man. People start looking at me and I wonder what the hell, man. Bro, don't we know you? Hell no. You don't know me. I got warrants. the hell you talking about? That that notoriety is a it's a blessing and it's a sin at the same time. You going through the airport and people looking at you. Uh I get suspicious cuz you know I'm still one crime away from going to hell, man. You know, I it's one thing I definitely want to talk to you about, man. and and I know you you being one that you you knew about you hung around Tupac back in the days when he was around and uh had duties and whatnot, but uh I watched a guy on another podcast, Kei D. Now, I'm I don't know LA business, but he got on this podcast and he started talking about what was going on with some with Pac and uh the dude Lonzo, whoever the guy was in the car and all this stuff started strumming up, you know, different things. And then all of a sudden, I'm watching the news and well, I'm really not watching news cuz stuff pop up on your IG and all on you. You don't even have to watch the news. It's coming to you whether you like it or not. And boom, they say we raiding the house, reopening a Tupac case. It messed my head up 30 years later. >> Yeah, that you let me this guy and I don't know Kephy D from a can of paint. He's in a different era than me, but I was there the night that this happened, >> right? Uh I was on a detail with I just left me uh did a detail with Pac um Gridlock. We just finished the movie Gridlock and myself, Captain Shahed Muhammad out of the Nation of Islam, but we had the Nation of Islam on Mike at the time. And uh so this guy Zip that was supposed to have given him the gun. Um and I've been talking to uh uh Big Low and Abdullah that was on the detail and um Anthony. We were all in the dressing room after the fight. Like I say, I don't know uh this guy Kefi D at all. I don't remember him, but Zip was in the locker room at that time. Zip left the locker room, went to the underground, and went to Mike's house. Mike had just had a baby, his little daughter, and they went back to the house off of Eastern. So, Zip, from my understanding, left with the Michael with the Mike Tyson entourage with all the cameras and everything. Where is the picture of him giving Kefi D a gun? Now, gang banging is real in the city of Bton, California. This some serious [ __ ] Now, this brother Orlando, he's a southside [ __ ] arch enemies with the mob, Lunas Park, Hollywood, and Limehood. Those are arch enemies. At the time, Death Row was the biggest thing since Mother's Oatmeal. SH bought about almost a thousand tickets for Pyuse to come to the fight. You feel what I'm saying? Any [ __ ] out of their mind if they think they going to come to Vegas by theyself. Orlando's a gang member on that footage. Why would he stand there in the auditorium by himself? Kei D said it was three of them came together. Where was the other two men when he got into the altercation? This thing was the It's deeper than Ky D ain't the sharpest tool in the shed for one. You dig what I'm saying? So now we say, well, from the incident, when this incident first happened in MGM Grand, they're talking about that Orlando got beat down. So when did he meet with Kei D and the other two guys and get in the in the white Cadillac and from Compton to Las Vegas is less than 400 miles. We all carry guns. Why would a man way from New York have to give a man from California a gun? How does that logically? And then when you look at the incident, they came out of Las Vegas Boulevard, came down Las Vegas Boulevard to Flamingo 662 was on on on Flamingo 1700 East Flamingo. So when they got shot, if Keith Denver was coming from where the club wasn't looking for him and they made this massive Uturn, how is Suge's rims? He had to hit the curb on the right side and you came up on the right side. Where how does it and out of this whole thing, nobody sees the car. It's a white Cadillac. How do you get back to Compton and never get stopped? Mhm. >> I'm telling Kefi D this out of my mouth to his. He better do a snowfall. He better do he better do a freeway Rick and tell him because partner, your story don't line up. Now they don't need you anymore. >> Now they going to come up with some [ __ ] called forensic. You can't [ __ ] can't beat forensics. You understand what I mean? And he ain't sharp enough that what he doing with a computer? He can't even play on his phone. The man is a dummy. >> What would they be looking for in his house 30 years later? >> Man, it's time to eliminate him because this is bigger than what people think. It was a move to get rid of Suge. Suge did not play with the rules that white America wanted him to play. And it wasn't white America. This is a Compton thing. And it's a elements in Compton that happened and they seen where they could make a move. Look at the people that profited after everybody that didn't have the story of what they wanted to be here. Frank Alexander dead. Michael Moore dead. Bunchel dead. All the members in the car with uh Orlando. But Kefi D. How >> So why only him still alive? >> He only alive for right now, huh? the story going on that everybody believe. Well, KBD said he how you say you that's before and after a fact. He he got a deal with the feds. His handler >> who who was his handler was a was a a deputy DA and he made a profer agreement with the feds cuz he got busted with drugs. He never dealt with Kefi D like that. It was never You think Puffy gonna get somebody a million dollars? And just so happened, well, Puffy know from New York that a killing was going to go down today and just so happened Zip had a a Glock 40 to give to the murderers, you know. So, you have to start looking at logic. How does, you know, we Negro, we deal with emotion. Oh, yeah. He killed. And then nine months later after Orlando gets killed, amazingly the Compton PD go to his girlfriend house and get the murder weapon. Brought it back to Vegas and like Vegas get that [ __ ] out of here. >> What this bull this Compton mess again? >> Mhm. >> Well, come will Vegas blew the investigation. No, they uh Gaddafi was one of the outlaws. He described who arm was at and it wasn't no tall dark skinned dude that he described. Man, we don't talk to the the police telling somebody don't talk to the police. >> That >> and Gaddafi dead too, right? >> Because you said this was all a plot to get Suge out of the way. But once Suge was arrested and he's in prison, um why even drum it still drum all of this stuff back up? But you have to keep you know the the devil the only way the devil has power is to keep chaos. Huh. >> Mhm. >> So you the only way I can establish my power. Okay. Let's look at how Su got arrested. Orlando never pressed charges on him. Las Vegas police department never pressed charges on him. SO HOW DID LA GET THIS INFORMATION? WHO TOLD him that Suge was there? Mhm. >> And the one one thing about it, the only person in the world that ain't even a gang member is Suge. He ain't never told on nobody. Everybody told on him, but he's never told him. The DA asked him something to do. That's why he got the 9-year violation. He said, "Man, I ain't telling you nothing." >> But we should know who told on him because it should be in court documents. >> It is. It is. But we look all the top all over the top of it. M >> it's like I say it's plain as a nose on your face. You don't want to look at your own nose. >> Mhm. >> You know, so that incident happened there. It's bigger than Kei D. >> It's bigger than Kei D. >> Way bigger than Man. Look at that man got a room temperature IQ. He couldn't mastermind his way out of a paper sack. But he better do a snowfall. He better start talking. You better tell man who made that story up for you. >> Man, that's crazy because I heard he was writing a book or something. >> He can't WRITE. HE CAN'T SPELL HIS NAME. WHITE folks is writing a book for him. He wrote a book. Now, I don't know. I wasn't there. I just allegedly he got a book deal. >> Yeah. Yeah. Shahid, you Muhammad is is dear to you because you always say you was on detail for him. um >> one of the greatest mans on the West Coast. >> I want I I want to hear a little bit because we you always mention him, but we never go into detail on who he is. I I went back and looked at my, you know, my my my my interviews, you know what I mean? And you always say he had your own detail here or you was doing this and you, you know, just pretty much just, you know, doing what you had to do when you was doing it with him. Like who is he and and what does he represent in LA or did he represent in LA cuz he passed, right? >> Yeah. Okay. >> He still representing LA. Who else? He still represent man. Uh, Giants don't die, they multiply. >> Okay. >> You know, Shahid Muhammad is the West Coast. He's a uh was the West Coast captain for a Mas 54, Compton, California. Uh, an original out of LA. Original uh businessman, old gang banger businessman. Went to the Black Panthers. Um, was in 80 countries with Minister Farrakhan on the E team. loved the Nation of Islam more than life itself and brought uh always was the pinnacle was the of the excellent um this man here 90% of the nation that's that's up today and come through under Shahid Muhammad's tutelage you know uh had Lennin Lewis Mike Tyson put us on the Bobby Brown Whitney Houston detail um uh um Um Aaliyah's uncle Barry Hankerson had me on Barry Hankerson Detail Eraser with uh uh Vanessa Williams uh Rosewood with uh John Singleton. I mean for a dude out of Compton just come about the penitentiary, you know. I had some of the greatest details and been around the world with this dude. >> Wow. >> You know that's that's crazy. How did he end up? You said something. You said you said gang bang, but also um he was uh he was a Muslim, right? >> What? Cuz you had I know I was out of town and it came up and I called about it. >> Uh people questioned the fact of you being a Muslim. Uh again being one that's related to Pyu issue, the oldest Pyu had ever made. It was supposed to been this guy uh >> Terrence uh Prankster Williams. >> Okay. >> Yeah. This >> So So what what and I didn't get to ask you about that, but just like is there I don't know how you would break that down or break that. >> I mean it's easy to break it down because you you in in America separation of states. You know what I'm saying? Uh we don't question gang members that say they Christians. You got gang crips that go to TD Jake's church, go to uh uh uh uh Jones, N Jones church. It's just like you go to church, right? You got massive murders that go to church. I'm not making the comparison, but in the Nation of Islam, that's my religion. That's what I do. That's my way of life. Pyu is a business. I don't believe in my life that I'm going to Pyu heaven. Ain't no [ __ ] like that. >> I got to I didn't I will never get jumped in a gang. And I ain't If you hit me, we're enemies. I don't have me and my friends grew up together. We fight other people. We don't fight each other. And if it was something for me to do to be around with you, we either go get at the police, kill white boys. That's what we did in prison. They didn't turn gang members like you just mentioned your boy OG Percy and this other guy um what's his name? Dupont. Um what's the other one's name? Uh it's OG Percy. Another one hang out with Charlie Dubberry. >> Oh yeah. Yeah. >> We I I it's it's such a transition in the south in California. California, we got more. The only other prison that have more prison killings in California is New York and that was Attica and they killed 60 police in 1970 in ADA. >> Ain't nobody get as busy killing police in California. You you southern boys, y'all kill each other talking about I beat this, but you ain't never talked about killing a police or beating up a white boy or a Mexican. I hear him breaking got this other old man older than I don't even think he older than me but he look bad Feliz Johnson the booty bandit the booty warrior and he's on bragging and you get on these podcast and you degrade us in prison system that we don't stand for [ __ ] you know what I'm saying in California we made a president all over the world somebody do something to a black, six of them got to die. We didn't go around. I mean, we ramaged each other. Some people did, but it wasn't wholesale. You feel what I'm saying? So, we have a whole different politics in us uh volume system in California. It's everybody against black. We don't even have time to have crips and blood py situations in prison cuz everybody against us. You dig what I'm saying? They now they're into it. But blacks don't run the prison system in California anymore. The Mexicans do. You know what I'm saying? They say whoever control the ghetto whoever control prison control the ghetto. The Mexicans control the prison, they control the ghetto. I look at the interviews that these dudes are doing and talking about how they dpded and they transformed another block. But you ain't never made one podcast that you did a IB initiation of blood against one of them Proud Boys or Clucus Clan or slap the warden in the mouth. I come from Trojans. Defro Jeff, uh, Matt Dylan, uh, uh, uh, uh, Maia, all of these dudes had, uh, uh, uh, Motormouth, Buford Beard, all of these dudes had six or seven institution murders, >> killing white boys and Mexicans, not their own. You feel what I'm saying? And they didn't just send me to do it. They did it first. I remember my first IB. I caught a case in YTS a little bit and they sent me to San Quinton from youth authority and it was my assignment to go take this dude out in the sale, right? Me and another guy as I go in the sale. But when I go to breakfast that morning, they have my favorite food, scrambled eggs and and and a big old breakfast roll. I'm eating. I'm young, naive. I'm eating. We child time comes. I we go up in this dude's cell. Now you got three minutes and 47 seconds to do what you got to do because the gunman is on that back bar. When he comes up and if he don't get you in the the man locks the gate, he's going to lock you in the cell with a dead man. So I go in there and I'm thinking that this is just blowing. I didn't know how people fight for their life that you just ain't going to kill a man. You sometime y'all shoot and find out you caught a murder in the police station. M >> but to walk up personal and look at a man in the eye and stab at him. Oh, it's a whole different dynamic to doing that cuz he ain't GOING TO JUST LET you kill him. >> Mhm. This Mexican grabbed me and held on to me in that 5 by9 sale and my partner was stabbing me and I start panicking and I'm trying to jerk away from this mess AND BLOOD IS EVERYWHERE and I'm getting scared because I am scary and the next thing you know I [ __ ] on myself. >> No. >> Damn. >> Had to get out because I I learned then before I do anything don't eat before you do. >> You feel what I'm saying? So you see that one didn't go too well. >> No, I would have thought somebody um at that throw up more than doing that. >> Depends on how the pressure is. The pressure go to your stomach. You understand me? If if and if you drink too much, you'll piss on yourself. You hit some dude got socked and they pee right on that. When I hit this boy, he pissed on himself, >> man. You know, you got BGF, UBN, you >> that's a whole another thing. You got treetop all of these things sanctioning when you go in like through the system of jail. >> See now that's just like you got if you believe the fallacy that that a note gets put under your door. We don't want you that bad. If you can't put in work, you couldn't be a BGF. Just get over there with THE [ __ ] AND PLAY dominoes and [ __ ] >> Explain what a BGF feels. We from See, we being a >> Texas folks. Okay, that's a California thing. It's all over thing. I mean, black, it's black gorilla family. >> Let's talk about that. >> It It started with the Black Panther Party. >> The Well, it did it there was the black hand first. That's what uh uh before Doc them started. Uh um um damn, what's his name? Well, I can't remember the brother's names. The the OG's that really started the Black Hand. And it went in from the black hand and the Black Panther Party came up and uh George Flea um uh um not Relle, George Fa, uh John Clushche out of Compton. Those are the Solidad brothers. And they formulated the BGF, the black gorilla family, the dragon. and they brought that in as a revolutionary concept on a prison element aside from the Black Panther Party was a neop uh uh political movement on the street. So the BGF sole concept was to search and destroy >> and that's to dominate the prisons to in 1969 uh George John Clushche out of Compton and flee the drumo they uh allegedly killed the police in Solidad in 1970 19 uh 1969 1970 George's brother Jonathan tried to break him out of jail. He didn't come to court though and they had the Marin County killing and they shot Relle McGee 33 times and didn't kill him. Everybody got killed in the van, a judge, a district attorney and some so Jonathan was 17 years old went and took over the courtroom. Right. and 1971 uh OC Allen, Jesse Phillips, Roosevelt, Jimmy James, they killed the police and Owing and Solidad. They were the Solidad 7 out of Compton. >> Wow. >> So they came came to San Quentin 1971. George Jackson got killed on the San Quinton yard. The police killed him in 1971. So that was the building of the BGF, the black gorilla family. That's before Crips, that's before uh Bloods, that's before Py Rules. They were And before them, like I said, Captain Shahid was a businessman. After the businessman, it was the Slawsons, the Gladiators, those we've had gangs ever since. Uh so gangs before Crips, but there was gangs before that. >> Yes. You what? You thought they just popped up? We had uh >> when you say businessman, was it UBN? >> No, Businessman was a a G UB is a part of a uh a set that they brought up. It didn't UBN didn't start until 8687, you know, you had before that it was called they had for the Bloods in Tracy was called Bloodline, you know, but those are gang elements. you should have came out of prison. But those are the gang elements on the blood side. Then the crips, they had cotes. Uh cotes, what was they other? Well, got to talk to Melvin about that. But because all you keep hearing is Bloods and Crips. So it's like and all these other gangs like derived from that. So like it just baffles me like I just didn't know that there was actually other gangs before Bloods and Crips. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I'm like I say one I originally grew up I originally grew up my neighborhood was called Treetop. Treetop. Yeah. Because all our streets I'm from Elm Street. We ran Freddy Cougar out of there. So all the streets were named after trees. >> Fruit Town is cherry fig plum. So they bec. The swamps in Compton because it was a swamp over in their neighborhood. So they was the swamp area. Then they had spook time because the train tracks came through 12 o'clock at night and they go and they thought it was spooks, right? Then they had where Nutty Block was, they were called Boot Hill because they got the two graveyards in their neighborhood. >> And those are all names of gangs before Bloody. >> That was before from the 60s. >> Okay? Because you know, even when you think about Treetop nowadays, I think about Treetop Pyuse. >> Pyuse. >> So I'm not thinking about another gang before. >> That's why people say, "Well, Pyus and Bloods are the same thing." Mhm. >> I beg to differ because >> it's a good thing you said that because when I was I don't know how much Google is correct, but when I was doing some research on it when I think it who was it? Owens and um what was the other guy? It was Owens and uh Scott who they said that started Scott. >> Right. Right. So, Lil Vincent >> because it was a fight or whatever that caused. But the thing is that if those two guys were together, why didn't they start um the Bloods together instead of creating one created Bloods and one created Pyu? Why did they >> The Vincent and uh Sylvester Scott, >> right? >> Vincent and Sylvester, they're both Pyu is a street in Compton. >> It's not It's not a gang. It's a street. And all the all every family had five or six boys on their street. So they were the Pyu boys. And so once that situation happened and they become start calling them roosters >> because it was red >> and they was so we the Pyu boys. So once they became roosters and the bloods out of LA was in red too. So they associated. >> You know what I'm saying? You you got different branch. It's the military but you got the navy, you got the army. They not the same, are they? But they are military. >> The Air Force don't do what the Army does. The Navy don't do what the Marines do. Pyro with 10 square miles. It ain't but two sets in Compton. Pyus and Crips. We don't have no bloods in in Compton, California. It's not a blood set in California, but it's a blood set. Circle Cities in in Watts. You got 30 pyus in East LA. You got uh Avenue Pyus in Inglewood. You got neighborhood pyus. You got pyus in POA. You got pyus in Pomona. You got pyus in Sacramento. We got pyus all over the world. >> So it wasn't Benson Owens who started that. >> Lil Vince and Lil Vince grew up on Pyro and Putin grew up on Pyro. >> So he didn't actually start it though. that gang >> they they were the original they were the original seven dudes that were put the name out. >> Oh, okay. Okay. I was just trying to figure it out cuz when I'm doing research and reading I'm like those were the only two names that they mentioned >> and I'm like okay so if they were friends like why did they just create one big one instead of I have >> they got one big one because when you talk about Fruit Town when you talk about Cedar Block when you talk about Campanella it wasn't like it is today. It was just I because you can hear a lot of crips talking about >> their activities, but you very seldom and I've never heard you cannot tell a LA [ __ ] they came in and did a drive by in Compton >> because our streets are so confusing. And if you're not from there, you can't just come up in there and get because everything down Rose Cran is all Pyus from the Harbor Freeway down to the 710 and in the middle of that is Santana block crips. But everything from one freeway to the other freeway on Rose Cran is all pyro from 135 to cross Atlantic everything in between. Mhm. >> So if you don't know where you going, you can't go east or um north or south, east or west, and not get your hat brought to you. >> So it ain't many dudes that's going to come across Elsag or 120th to do anything in Compton because it's not their terrain. >> But we'll go to their neighborhoods, bus, and come right on home. I don't do that kind of stuff. I got I got big business with white America. I ain't got time to shoot a white a black man for what? >> Well, let's let me ask you a question because I and I got to go there. Um, this guy Slick, I seen him on the online talking uh pretty bad about you and saying that you wasn't a real uh pirate. What? Just wasn't real. He he just questioned your your your credibility in the neighborhood. Like, um, call him now. >> Call him now. He's a legend. >> He's a legend. >> Oh, he said I wasn't a legend. He's a legend now. >> Yeah. I mean, what give someone the audacity to even speak on you? How how did that even come about? >> I don't know. I I I know how it came about, but it's been situated, you know, uh slicker, good dude. I mean, you know, just he was just misguided. So, you know, sometimes the pecking order is so out right now. You know, they say if you play with a play with a dog or play with a puppy, he'll lick you in the face. That's stuff. So, we got so many of these young dudes that think that we through >> and that they think they they can say anything out their mouth. This media got people confused. I had to change my my my monogram. They call that OG uh original gangster. I'm a RG. A real gangster. If you [ __ ] with me, I will shoot your ass. Period. >> Wow. If you run down Rose Cran and [ __ ] with me, something is going to happen or something going to happen to me. >> Some people just talk that [ __ ] I'm about that [ __ ] really. So, it's certain things that that go down and then you have to question the people around you. What kind of guidance are you getting to talk to somebody like that and think it's not going to have a a bad result? you know, and and so it's every now and then things have to happen in for for us to get clear vision who I had to learn. It's certain things I I thought in prison I could think and [ __ ] you know, got got my ass busted on it. >> You know what I'm saying? I I thought one time that man, I was invincible and thought I had everything together. thought I man thought was on I thought I was on my swerve. I'm standing in the that's what stopped I got off the the main line in prison. We just went on to the hole. I'm standing in in the um the canteen line with my people around me and uh boy this white boy Jack Murphy ran up on me and stabbed me in the back and left the knife and ran off. >> What? >> I'm like oh [ __ ] Like >> so just for no reason. >> I'm black. He don't like me. I didn't like him. So he stabbed you in the back with a knife. >> Yeah. >> Then just ran. >> That's a coward move. That's a cowardly move. >> It's cowardly, but do what you got to do. I should have been on mine. You know what I'm saying? >> Wow. >> So I I took it. I mean, it's insane. Quinton. >> Mhm. >> And the only reason I didn't die CUZ I DIDN'T FALL. And when he hit me, it was like a million bolts of lightning. Shoved me. And I just didn't want to die in prison. And the I the police tell me, "Get on the ground. Get on the ground." I walked all the way to the hospital and when the doctors when they x-rayed they said if I had taken the knife I just couldn't pull the knife out I'd have hit my lung and I'd have bled to death >> but it wasn't my time. >> Wow. So you basically Well, how far was the infirmary or how far was the place where you had to go? >> [ __ ] on like aund like 20 miles. >> It fell longer than what it was, I bet. >> Yeah, it was it was a it was it's The upper yard is right here. You have to walk over to the rotundum to A section, walk through C section to the hospital. Then somebody got to open the gate of the hospital. So the police escorted me on cuz I was not stopping. They told me to lay down. I'm not laying there. >> I would think that they would tackle you if you're not trying to lay down. Do what they tell you to do. >> I get I'm glad they didn't tackle me, but uh they knew I was trying to get up out of there. They seen the knife in my back. Well, I want to I I want to go back though just a little bit. I want to talk about the difference between >> See, people beef online and they feel like it's okay to say whatever they want to say online. They don't expect it to come to no real >> and that's you know, >> hold on. Let me let me expect it to come to no real problem >> right >> now. But you from the old school, it it can be a issue if somebody say the wrong thing on online. I found out I'm not podcast worthy. My feelings are easily hurt, man. I say [ __ ] to you. If you say something back, I'LL BE BUTT HURT. So you just can't say [ __ ] to me and think it's just over. This just a podcast. I tell him, man, Slick just got what I was going to give to a Wack 100. It's talking about knocking me out. >> Whack 100. And you in WAC 100. He he he backed off of you, right? >> Yeah. I mean, you know, he he he got his where he wanted to be, he'd be in Dubai. I can't go to Dubai. I'm on federal parole, so he going to stay out my way. >> Wow. But anybody that that's that's going to be in my way, they should won't tread lightly on what they say to people because everybody ain't like, okay, it's just like I've never been the type of dude that me and my folks ain't been the kind of dude that you get drunk and uh [ __ ] you e I don't give a [ __ ] about and they say a drunk speaks a sober mind. So you've been wanting to say that to me all the time. So we when you get sober, we got to talk about that. >> Yeah. It got to be an issue. Oh man, I was drunk. I don't know if we going to remember what you said. Yeah. It's going to come back to you just like it came back in a dream. But like with like with Wack00 though, because you guys never met, y'all talked on on I remember the recording you brought and you let us hear it and it was some harsh words said. Yeah. >> Could there be clo like bridges? Could Could there be like a conversation amending? >> Yeah. >> No. Just stay out my way. I'll stay out yours. It's no I mean ain't know we grown men we got bigger challenges and I find out that I shouldn't have took it personal but it's certain things he shouldn't have said I'm going to show you what this bag going to do that's critical in my life you got enough money so you going to put a hit on me so if I just take that lightly if I allow you to say it the next lame going to say it or the next lame going to do it. >> Was that after was was the slick uh talk on the internet after you had dealt with whack 100? >> Yeah, that was Slick. >> So that was afterwards. But do you think that kind of they seen you as a target on there and like I can go and talk about him now since somebody else did or? >> Yeah. Well, Slick got on was see that was the thing with me and him because he had got on the show with this brother Melly Mail and he started Trash Me Let It Go. Then he got on to with Wack 100. >> Oh, he got on with Wack 100. >> Yeah. Oh, yeah, man. He ain't this or he ain't that. You know, they buffalooed, but you know, it didn't work out well. >> It didn't work out well. >> No. >> So, basically, I seen him when I seen the guy uh I seen it on the internet. He was in a neighborhood >> talking. That's what I seen. >> Right. Yeah. >> And I don't know if it was your neighborhood. or his neighborhood. >> He wasn't in your neighborhood. >> No, he was in his neighborhood. >> Okay. So, cuz I had thought he was in your neighborhood to be honest with you. But he was in just talking about cuz your name came up on that that that skit that talk that you know he kept talking about you and I was like dang where is this coming from? Cuz I always look your name up. >> I didn't know him. I but I kne I know you. So I started looking like and then lo and behold, you know, next thing I heard I heard some things. It got streak, you know what I mean? That that things kind of changed on him. Uh >> well, we all right, you know, just just, you know, uh shoot uh families fall out sometime, >> you know, but we don't we don't we don't hold grudges on Pyu. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So he's Pyu? >> Yeah, he's a camp from Campanoa. >> Wow. I didn't, you know, I thought that would have been off limits. >> I did too. >> You know what I mean? >> Sure. Y'all know what I'm thinking. >> Yeah. But on the internet, it can spill into the streets is pretty much what what I gather. You know, certain things you got to watch what you say on the internet. >> See, a lot of these younger people always feel like once you get gotten older, you need to like sit down and retire, sit down and let stuff go. And I think that's what a lot of these young cats feel cuz in today's >> society it it's it's it's feel like that because old [ __ ] allowed them to do it. See when I was coming up, you ain't got a mustache. You can't talk. Your whatever you say should be verified. >> I don't care if a old man in my neighborhood was a whiner. You respected dude cuz he'd get up and slap the hell out you on that wine bottle. Crack cocaine took black men's heart. and you got 30 years of absence that these black kids ain't had nobody in their face and then here you come around you looking healthy and you you old and man somebody going to challenge you but I stand to the challenge. I'm good with it. If you kill me I got more years behind me than I got in front of me. >> Wow. >> But if I do something to you, you looking bad in front of the homies. >> Yeah. >> You let that old man whoop YOUR ASS LIKE THAT, BRO. SO, pick and choose. You know what I'm saying? And it's our fault as elders, man. Well, I was just in uh North Carolina and they had some situations in North Carolina and a little kid got killed in the crossfire and these preachers was let us uh everybody go to Jesus instead of going to the street. You've been praying for 600 years without a solution. Anybody does the same thing over and over again repetitively. It's called insanity. Huh? >> So, you're looking for the same thing. They say if they won't treat you right, how do you expect them to teach you right? The Christian Bible put you in slavery. How in the hell you think it's going to get you out? So you sit there with some children that's been raised on San Andreas Fall Call of Duty and you going to tell them, "Let's all grab hands and pray." [ __ ] you out your mind, old [ __ ] Get back. So instead of you sitting up in his church hooping and holling, go out in the neighborhood every day and stand up against these youngsters. IF THEY WANT TO FIGHT, FIGHT. If they WANT TO DIE, DIE. IF YOU BELIEVE IN YOUR GOD LIKE YOU DO, I say in my life, my life, my death, and my sacrifice is all for Allah. I fear nothing but God. And I've been here too, man. The things I have been through, good and bad. Wow. Do you I mean, do you ever think about like, you know, these youngsters, they look up to you. A lot of the youngsters look up to you. uh they see you on the internet, they they look at you an example. Far as the Pyus go, >> your title everywhere we look is OG Pyu. OG Pyu, the oldest Pyu, the elder, you know what I mean? Um what can you what do you do to try to influence them, you know, to stay? >> I let them see me working. I hit my streets every day. I'm down Rose Cran every day. I don't hang out with them. I don't smoke weed with them. I don't drink with them. If I can't say nothing positive to him, I don't say nothing at all. I don't try to tell him what to do. I try to show them what to do. That's a difference. >> So, what do you do when you walk down Rose Cran? You just Cuz you say you don't hang out with them. So, what do you do? >> Drive up to the park, intimidate a couple of [ __ ] ride, man, you still on Rose Square. The way I'm go, where I'mma go. You know, it's if you keep on feeding them, they start looking like you. >> Yeah. You know, so all you got to do is see them. Okay. This dude been through this. If Marv can do it, anybody can. I'm not out smoking crack. I'm not talking about what the the money I spent in 1978. Most of these kids wasn't born then. But I'm a homeowner. I I I drive a nice car. I do what I do. I don't hang out. I don't misinform you. I don't try to have you selling dope. I don't take you on no jacks. I don't do a lot of talking because I'm not a politician. But when you see me like you say, man, I'm And it's so crazy in my neighborhood like you say everybody around then see they act like I've never been like I'm nobody. >> The ones clear like they talk about Jesus right there in his own neighborhood. He's just a carpenter son. >> But every [ __ ] OG man like like I tell >> you that before you got more >> it was crazy. I'm like man what the hell man they just they probably saw you on there. You didn't see me on no damn internet. We go to Funday Sunday. Yeah. I look I see dudes in blue looking at me. I'm like man what the hell I do? Hey man OG we we like what you doing. Pyro don't embrace me like that. >> Wow. They hold they nuts on me like [ __ ] more. >> But why you think that's so? >> Because nobody everybody want to be the better. Don't nobody [ __ ] more. Where he from? What he do? Where he from? I was in Compton before any of y'all was born. The whole plantation belong to me. >> Wow. >> I earned it. >> But a lot of them haven't even been able to live this long to be able to talk about it. >> Ain't ain't been I'm the oldest one. The oldest one. are the only one. That speaks volume. When he start, when he do this, when he when check my record, >> they be asking that all the time >> amongst each other. >> They don't ask you, >> man. More so and so said a third person. >> They want to know. You say you from futon, but you always talk about treetops and you say this and so I have to give them the explanation how the the metamorphis from the the caterpillar grew up into the butterfly. >> But if you've been where you've been for as long as you've been living, they should know. Go ask their daddy, grandpa, somebody older. >> Yeah. >> So they can, you know, know. >> They don't need to. They these kids do if it's not if it doesn't come up on the internet or in their phones, they don't ask nobody. >> You guys, um I remember last time we talked about um you when the guy got ran over and Suge was out there. I seen that video before he was on there. I didn't see that video. It's a video of that online. >> Okay. >> And it shows you I seen you in the street. I mean, you know, it's it shows you pulling somebody out something. I just remember seeing it like that day had to be to make, you know, the internet like that. It had to be a heck of a day. >> Hell yeah. That's a Suge night day. >> You know what I'm saying? But it's just something. But Suge, he was the type of guy that get himself in trouble. That was that wasn't purposely done though, was it? >> No, not at all. >> So what? >> It was an accident. So what caused the the whole situation? >> Hey, same situation happened in 1996. >> What do you mean? What happened 1996? You talking about with Park? >> Sure was there too, wasn't he? >> Yeah. >> Okay. He was the actual target. >> Oh, okay. Was it a guy bone or something there? But I might have that story wrong. >> Yeah, I don't know. >> I know. I just know it was a it was a hell of a day. That's all. >> Yeah. >> I just know I seen the when I when I had seen the uh the >> It's unfortunate, you know, the the the stuff that happened with Suge. Uh but uh it man, you know, >> I'm telling you, it's a video out there. That video shows online everywhere. >> He got views. I've seen Yeah, he got views. >> I got views. But I think it's because I think it like the news. It made news. It made headline news. That that was a hell of an incident. >> When I started looking, I was like, man, I'm going to ask him about this one. I'm looking up everything that has your name attached to it, you know, >> and that's one of the things that got your name attached to it. >> Yeah. It was a a situation. Two two of the attorneys, one of them got put in prison, the other one got his uh bar license taken from him. Uh, so yeah, it was I went through 14 attorneys and it was it was a it was a circus. >> Hell of a hell of a day. >> Hell of a day. So when you when you look at the way these uh the the celebrities come to California, a lot of them California has a reputation uh for people getting jacked, getting killed, not making it home. Um, is this something to be proud of as as being California Compton? But you in California? >> What? I'm from Comp. I'm from Bmpton, California. Ain't nobody got killed in Bomb. >> Okay. So, could the check in LA? >> Yeah. The check in thing. And And right now they going through a lot up there. I seen now on the news in the malls. They running up jerking stuff and running right out. I'm not playing. >> THAT JUST STARTED THOUGH. That and but but the people that you see most doing that now are clear people. lady and got desperate. >> Dark is you going to get when you get the wheelchair, they going to stop you. >> I heard they running in like like when I seen that the monsters and everything. They going 1314D deep. >> I was hearing they they wasn't taking them to jail for if it was less than $900 or something. >> Ain't that a ain't nothing in in uh >> just a fine is what and I'm hearing that's what's causing the whole >> Well, yeah. When you when you go in Louis Vuitton and and 900. Huh? >> Ain't ain't nothing there undeni. >> That's why they say that. >> Yeah. >> So they really they they out there bad if they at Nema Marcus >> and they hitting Beverly Hills like it's the thing. >> That's what I heard. >> But what is causing all of that? Why are they why they feel so you mean what's causing all that? Uh Joe Biden and Carmela Harris. What the hell? These this uh uh uh uh slave master and and his uh uh uh uh nenny, >> you know, so two worst things could happen. But that's what America, you know, deals with. So that you you got what you you think because uh Joe Biden worked under um >> Obama >> Obama that he'd be a a good cracker. Do you know how many slave owners was weaned off of black women growing up and still own slaves? So, you think that mentality would change? And you got a a woman that's not a black woman actually. >> What is she? >> She's what is her mama? Indian oriental there. She's not she's not black. And she wakes up every morning with a white man. So what loyalty does she have with black people? You love who you love, huh? So if you wake up in the morning with a cracker, how much love you got for a nappy head like me? >> But then once you have children, those children is now what? >> They pecka woods, too. >> So they're not black. >> 1% a peck of wood and you a peck of wood to me. >> Oh, okay. Okay. So was Trump any better? Yes, he was. >> Why? He was white. >> And Lily White, he's he's what they call a wasp. White o Anglosaxon Protestant. >> Okay. >> And he believed in white America. >> Mhm. >> Keeping America beautiful. >> Mhm. >> Trump was a businessman. He was not a politician. Trump is the first president in American history, and you can go Google it. He's the first president that ever tax the 10enters, people that's making over $250,000. >> Mhm. >> He's the first president to ever go into the UN and call out every country that owed a debt to America. You're not getting nothing else until China, give us our money, Germany. >> So when he affected white America, they started crying. It had nothing to do with nappy heads. If Trump ha if Trump had a wanted or two, do you realize he done financed and helped most most of the black rappers, Puffy and all of them in New York when his businesses just want to be around blacks? But he never called a black out during his presidency. Huh. >> He's loyal to who's loyal to him. >> He He's a real cracker. You ever heard of this story about Jaco? >> Jacko was was a story about a little black boot boy and uh George Washington was on his way to the war and Jo wanted to come and fight in the war. The 12-year-old black boot boy, right? >> Mhm. >> And Jo uh George Washington told him, "No, you're too young to fight." and he chased him all the way in and said when they got to the PTOIC and they got on the boats, George Washington told Jacko, "Here, you hold my horse until I get back." And winter set in, right? And the snow started falling in the horse with horses. He broke away. And when George Washington got back, Jacko was laying there, stood up, froze to death >> with the bridal in his hand. And when Washington went back and told about the life of Jaco, every peckerwood on the plantation said, "If we have a [ __ ] this loyal, we wouldn't have to worry about anything." So they built little statues. So when you see the little statue of the little boot boy in front of white America, they thought their houses would be safe as long as the statue of Jaco was there. >> So it was a compliment to black America of your loyalty. The the nappyhead [ __ ] coons and possums the NAACP in in the 60s said it was degrading and took the monument and made white folks get rid of the monument. So a lot of things that happened to us that white America glorify we turn around and piss on them >> for four years. Gas didn't get over $3320. >> Now it's damn near $8 in California. >> Right. >> So the only thing that Biden has done in his presidency, he didn't been to more drive by funerals than any president in America. >> He's at every shooting it is. Huh. Do you think America should have a cap on how on age wise of how old you can be? >> I think America should have a cap. They shouldn't have Supreme Court justices in there for the life sentence. They shouldn't have these senators that's eating up all they're cutting your taxes, but they're making three four $500,000 a year. >> Mhm. >> But they said we're cutting back and we we have uh uh the se the debt ceiling. So being political, I mean that's something alltogether different. >> Let me ask a question. I'm gonna go back to the music a little bit. Um you was locked up for at one time, what was the longest spell that you was locked up? >> 15 years. >> 15 years. Um BG with uh uh Cash Money. He just come home. It's been he was gone for 11 years. >> Uh BG um heard about it is an artist, right? um just coming home after all those years when you came home, how was it readjusting and and and just trying to understand just how to move around with the differences that had happened in technology >> even in that time from the difference when I came home. I had never been to a mall before. >> Okay. >> And and I I I went to a mall. It was the Del Almo Mall. And in prison, everything is clockwise. When you go here, everybody's going to if you going against either you getting killed or you killing somebody. So your life is clockwise. So everything isn't you have a bail to wake up to go to breakfast. You got a bail to go to child. You got a bail to go change your laundry. You got a bail to and everybody gets up on a rhythmatic time. In America, y'all don't do that. I wake up in the morning 5:00 in the morning. My mother still sleep. I'm just sitting there. What the [ __ ] Where's child at? So it's a whole even with a foundation and I had a foundation. It's an adjustment. You got a routine. Your Sy come and he come to the sale. Y'all walk into going to the chow hall. Everybody got a knife >> and you wake up in the morning in your mama house with a man-made knife. You the hell you >> you did not do that. >> You know what I'm saying? So I my mom took me to the mall and I went to the mall and I'm shell shocked because Peeka Woods is walking all across you walking. I'm looking around and these people is bumping INTO YOU BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE the same savage mentality I have. >> That's right. >> Because where I come from it ain't but two things in the jungle. Predator and prey. >> And if you're not the predator, you the to prey. So when it's my time to feed, back your ass up. When it's your time to feed, back my ass up. But on the streets, you bump into [ __ ] Huh? That's the American way. But people, that's just like PS, what is PSD, the soldiers, PTSD coming from Iraq and Iran. Same prison theory. >> They've been locked on murder doing this and doing that. and they come here and you holler at him and you're not and you're not supposed to get killed. >> Wow. >> So, California, they start seeing that they have what they call decompression chambers. You just can't come out of a highlevel prison and come go to the street. You have to go down and get decompressed. >> For how long? >> Depends. 90 days, six months, a year, whatever it takes you. When I first came from San Quinton, they send me to CMC East. CMC East is like a house. They got a bunch of rats there. They got a bunch of weird queers and steers. And I mean, they had homosexuals in San Quinn, but they was killers, too. >> You know what I'm saying? Then you got dude, you I come I get the CMC's. I get down there and dude walking in the challenge. This dude holling, "Hey, officer, he cut the line. WHAT THE HELL IS this >> really? >> I said, "Man, what did he just tell on this dude?" Oh, man. It ain't nothing. It ain't nothing. I was there about a week. I went to the counselor. I said, "Bro, I can't stay here. Send me." He said, "Well, bro, if you can't make it here, you'll never make it on the street." >> Oh, dang. >> And that was your decompression camp right there. >> Yeah. >> Wow. So, did you stay after he said that or did he had did he take >> I I stood I stayed. >> How long did you stay for? I stayed there about I think I stayed in CMC's about a year. >> A year. >> Stay about a year. >> Did you get used to it? >> Yeah. You know, you you adjust. But like I said, I had a structure. I had a system. I I didn't live off of prison. Prison lived off of me. I had a visit every week, >> right? >> My mom came to see me when I was in Sang. Every month I get a visit >> unless I was in the hall or something like that. So it was a But when a person has nothing, I got one of my one of my uh homeboys uh Bosi. Bosi been locked up since 1968. >> Don't have nobody visiting him. >> His mother's dead. All his family's dead. >> And do man, Bosi is tripping. He used boys like women now. He don't went to prison at 16. He never had a girlfriend. >> Wow. Does that help when you have people like from, you know, outside society coming to visit? >> Yeah. Consistently. >> It's it's a it's a balance. You know, it it keep it once once you get it and you get focused. Prison shouldn't be something you want to live in all your life. >> Mhm. >> A man told me one time, he said, "Kenz, you around here running around stabbing people. Anybody like the penitentiary like [ __ ] th >> but you have people who push their loved ones away for the main fact that they don't want them coming down to the prisons every week cuz they feel like they're putting their life on hold >> with certain ramifications. It's a humiliation in prison that you come to visit me and they make you take your bra off. They strip search you. Some people don't want that to happen to their people. feeling. We had somebody talk about that saying that they be feeling on some of those women who be coming down. >> Man, one of my girlfriend I'm in San Quinton. She come came to visit me, but she came to visit as my sister, right? And this guard tried to get at her and like he on the street and he like raining on my parade and so he like man what kind of hey I want to take you out and this and this and that. Come back. Bam. And he goes and tell the visiting lieutenant and that's not his sister. They in there kissing. They whoop the whoop. Damn. They got my visits canceled. Got him put off the yard >> cuz the raph was getting ready to be real ugly. >> Mhm. >> You know, and so the visit lieutenant was cool like he had just changed his status to this and this and that. But why would you do that, >> right? >> You know, so it's a vicious strand that you have to go through. And sometime we so naive in prison we just think you visiting. But it's the stuff your family have to go through. >> I want to ask you cuz Master P talked about his grandmother going to the prison. So we got to uh Master P was talking about that when him and C murder was having a is having issues and it it became a public thing where it was being spoke. He said man my grown going down there you know seeing you. We do we love you but you know you for him to turn back now and have a little bit of issues of some sort. But just have you ever been locked up with somebody on a celebrity status that was getting visits in there that that basically was, you know, like on the level like uh C murder which is Master P brother because Monica that funny you said that about the bras and being taken off. I didn't think about that >> that they would have to you know for Monica when she go she goes to see Monica is a singer R&B singer. She have to go. I don't know the rules of going into uh the the uh Angola and all those prisons down there, but she has to go through visitation and stuff. And I was tripping on like, man, them guards loving the fact that she a celebrity and she coming down there to see see murder. >> Okay. >> You see what I'm saying? >> Yeah. But now they have when I was in prison, it wasn't women guards. >> Now they got women guards. >> So it might make it a little better. >> In the male prisons. >> In the male prison. And then you have to submit to a woman coming in which we didn't allow it in San Quinn. They brought three females in there. Mexicans, whites, and we climb. We talked so many dick stories. They had to put them up in administration >> cuz it was not going down. >> They can stand up to y'all. >> No. No. Not they got three shifts. We talking all up under your clothes. All on top of your mama clothes and everybody clothes. And we smelling you, girl. Yeah. You you real loud up in here. Should female guards be um allowed to be in? >> I it's see prison system I can only speak in California. Texas prison is a whole different it's it's I was in uh in TDC for 6 months and got got a a uh bench warrant which is a PO bond and I got unwelcome guest of Texas. And matter of fact, y'all is the first time out in Grace, Texas since 1969. And the judge told me if I come back so much as get a traffic ticket, I'd do 99 years in Huntsville. Hard time. Wow. And I didn't want to test him cuz I had 50 other states I could [ __ ] up. I didn't have to come back to Houston. You understand? But um they promote homosexuality >> because a woman, you can't have naked pictures in your cell of a woman. >> You can't. >> No. Because oh it offends the female guards. >> But you can have pictures of men in muscles muscle magazines. >> Oh, >> right now they can be all over. But you can't send your if your husband was in prison, you send him some pictures in a leg and stuff, they'll confiscate the pictures from you because that's contraband. >> That's crazy, >> you know. >> Um, >> okay. BG comes home now. He's out and he's uh basically has a lot of exposure to a lot of money, a lot of things. He had things before he left, but now it's even, you know, they've been waiting on him. So, it's not the same. He uh he's basically now at a point to where he's Nobody's at that door, is it? >> No, that's next door. >> Okay. So, he's basically, you know, at a point now he's home. Um he's hanging out. He's in the studio. The readjustment I think is going to take just going to take some time you know >> uh with his status 11 years ain't that I mean I don't know what kind of time I don't know dude from a can of pain >> of course >> but if he a status I went to prison with a status and it never changed you know me and all my Compton homeboys we all came in as it was 250 of us for murder in San Quinton you know what I'm saying a man told me how to lose that of Joe Lewis Sturgis he said man, you know, in 1974. He said, "Kenzie, I was just looking in the Almanac the other day." He say, "Oh, you [ __ ] in here for murder, man." He said, "I I thought Compton was big as China." Find out it wasn't but 10 square miles. I didn't even know that at that time. Right. >> Wow. >> And he said, "Damn, and y'all going right back to the scene of the crime." He say, "Shit, when I get out, I'm going back to New Orleans." WHY WOULD YOU GO BACK TO Compton where you committed the crime? >> Wow. >> You know, so it's the status. If he was having money and doing things, he probably kept the same status in prison. It wasn't like he was broke and had to get it. He probably had soups and was living the lifestyle that them dudes was taking care of him on a He had a status there. when he came out, he's on the same level. >> It ain't like he went to the mud and coming out the mud like he did 20 months in the hole and had a murder and he had to do this. So, he must have did his time all right to come out all right. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> You know. >> Yeah. But I think there's a difference when you're in music because when you're a musician, you don't have you have something called like a age cap, I would think, where when um you you're not using your talents and styles and things and time changes, it's hard for you to come out and readjust to it. >> No, I mean it's just like a boxer go to prison. He keep on boxing. If he was rapping, he probably rapping in prison. I don't know what he was doing, you know. He wasn't picking cotton probably, you know. So hey man, you got everybody is dick hustling man. You would man homie can can you get me on man? I got this. So he was probably producing in prison. >> Mhm. >> Guards is going want to get with him and give him the best job because they they they want to deal with baby too. So when you got that plug, you man, the only people go to prison in in my little estimate, the only people in the south that go to at a time. Now today is a little different because of some [ __ ] Well, they ain't got nothing now. But the only people went to prison at the time I was in going to jail in the south is broke [ __ ] If your family had any money, you didn't have to go to prison. >> If they knew a white man, you didn't have to. The only person that went to prison, somebody didn't have nobody. >> They're the only ones was getting 60 years, 50 years >> or if they want to make an example of you, you could have money and because they want >> in California, but right now your money see in in I found out in the south, see I grew up under racism and I thought we was free [ __ ] I thought our [ __ ] was the hell of I used to watch y'all getting water holes put on you in the 60s and we shall overcome the stupidest [ __ ] in the world. We shooting white boys with BB guns. We shooting back. Y'ALL PRAYING BACK GETTING SOCKED all over. What the hell? Wish a crack of wood try. Spook hunters come and try. They did that when we was little. We found Woody's sport wasn't good and they had BB guns and CO2s. We went in there and started and we started busting back. You talk about racism, but I remember watching this movie called Alice. Have you watched it? >> Alice. Yes. >> And um it says based on a true story, but this was after, you know, racism. I mean, it was abolished, slavery was abolished, all of that. But then you still had people who was still having slaves out in the country. >> Yeah. >> Because they didn't know no better. They didn't read nothing. No, they just didn't have any information for them to know that slavery was done. But see the different between why I'm saying racism. Do you real realize why they called we're in the West Coast? Why they call us Southern California? >> Why? >> Because all the peckaws that didn't want integration from Mississippi, Georgia, uh, uh, Alabama, uh, Texas. They moved to California and set laws called redlinining. And they kept [ __ ] in one spot. >> And we didn't even know. We thought we was free. M >> like I told you you can go to like he's talking about all your celebrities come to California but you know where they come >> where >> in Cino Woodland Hills Calabasas >> certain parts >> ain't no [ __ ] coming out there >> and if you are out there you must be somebody >> see you a black I don't know if you know anything about Houston Texas in the 70s is a section called Post River Oaks Milliondoll Peeka lived in post revolts and the only way a negro was walking down post revol either he was delivering something or they was a maid stage your ass in third ward or fifth ward do not come over passimer you knew the rules Muhammad Ali tried to buy a house there for $700,000 and they gave him $3 million not to buy the house >> and then after that they buil they built Balair but that's the difference in prejudice and racism. When crackers in the south don't want you around, they'll build you a college. They'll build you a maho and then you still go to West Time Mall. In California, they ain't going to build [ __ ] in the ghetto and go to make you feel uncomfortable when you go to the Beverly Center, >> but you go spend your money. You your kids got to go to the movies in their neighborhood. They don't put them in your neighborhood. So that's the racism affects your economy. Prejudice, the only one that's prejudice is Pope Patties. >> I got busted for a drug case in Houston, Texas. My mother went to Jackson State University. She had a man by the name of Herb McKinley was a a forensic scientist back in the day and he had some white boys called Adamo and Cobb and they came and took me out of the jail. You got $50,000? Yeah. This the only time I've ever been arrested. And they told me to go home. Go on to California. We'll call you later. >> No, they didn't. >> May my mama be my wife. >> Came and got me out of Harris County Jail 11:00 at night. That's my [ __ ] He'll come to court. >> That's crazy. >> Wow. That's crazy. But I'm telling you right now, man. Um, when you look at what people think of when they look at Compton, the West Coast, you we know that if we come up there, you got to you got to know somebody or or you got to come prepared to be ex I ain't going to say exploited, but you got to come prepared to understand that there's challenges in places that you go. You come to Texas has its own situation, too, or Florida. anywhere you go, there's bad spots. But it's something about LA, uh, being one that visits there often to where you look at the news be like, man, you just like talking to a friend while ago, like certain places you go, you can't just pull up no anywhere. You can't go to the park. I heard about y'all park. I don't never want to go to the park. I after hearing you talk about the park. Why would I go to the park? >> Why would you go to the park? >> I ain't no way in hell. >> Why would I go to the park when I hear the stories I hear about the park? But the park ain't supposed to be bad, do it, babe. >> Mm- And I I say this all the time. Any man 40 years old, every day hanging in a park is a pedophile. Cuz children are supposed to be in the park. >> Mhm. >> Out of 50 years of gang banging, y'all ain't bought a building. You in the way. But you go to the park, too. And [ __ ] I'm socially [ __ ] Ain't nowhere else to go. >> Basically, >> I I can go home though. >> Yeah. Yeah, you can go home. >> I go I I go to the park to make an example. I don't hang out in the park. That ain't some place I got to be every day. That ain't some place we got to meet. >> Yeah. >> The motorcycle club, they got a clubhouse to meet. You come to Compton and look all around, you'll never see a building that say Pyro International where the Pyus can go and hang out. But they'll spend $3 $400 a day buying weed and Hennessy, but they won't get 30 of them together and put a $100 together and pay $3,000 a month for a building and they could party in the building and make it pay for itself. But I don't understand that because when you look at hip hop, when you look at all these different people, you got entrepreneurs, man, uh that's that's out there making money rapping and they say they pyu. They say they bloods. I'm telling you, me and you talked about this before. But we but they ain't giving back. I get it. But you got these people, man. You got all these people that rep r these colors. We see them. >> Yeah. What is that? Exploitation. The same thing white America been doing to blacks all their life. And now when you see it, you do it, too. And if I don't check you on it, I allow you to do it. >> Wow. >> You know, that's how people misinterpreted what I said about Chris. Chris Chris Brown tried to do a lot for Fruittown. Attempted to do, but they didn't do nothing for him. So, I'll outgrow you. You know, and I I can't understand that you dealt with a celebrity and you don't get nothing out the deal through Mike Tyson. I was able to buy a house. I was It's no detail I've been on with Shahid Bahame that I didn't be become standard. Rolex watches, all of this stuff. >> You got the game. You got a lot of people, man. You got all kind of people. And when they see who you really are, they don't want to deal with you no more. Game didn't just leave Compton because it was some [ __ ] that happened that just run him away. It wasn't all his fault. But when you have disloyalty, why I'mma sit in a in a cave of snakes when I can get out? >> That's real. >> Choice. >> Yeah. Because it's it's just you just see all the hip-hop and all the cuz that that those songs are out there. Those groups of people that you can go on the internet and see them. They out there. >> Yeah. >> Where they hanging. They wearing the colors. They putting up the signs. They say they represent a people. But you're But then you're telling me in Compton that there's no there has been no building of businesses. There's no >> in the city of Compton. It's no from Ro I just told you from the from the freeway from Harbor Freeway to the 710 freeway. It's not one black Now it is one black business. Uh uh Charlie P just opened up Taco Pets on Rose Cran and in the P the Now they own black businesses. We got a um a lady that owns Jack in a Box, a a family that owns Burger King, but everybody work there is Mexicans. And >> there's a blackowned family that own Marvin, they don't want to got uh blacks DON'T AIN'T NO BLACK don't want to work. >> What about I mean, you even got Dr. Dre from down there. He had What is he doing in Compton? Uh he just gave he gave him $10 million for a school that they've been and it's like what can I give you when you don't tell me what I what you need. >> I'm just supposed to magically put it out of my hand. If you It's just like I I was just telling my daughter the other day about sacrifice and what she has to do with her life. that for every great thing there's a supreme sacrifice. If you don't give a man imagination, you don't have anything to offer but [ __ ] All I'm going to give you get is from this [ __ ] Why should I give? My grandmother just told me, "Why buy the cow when you get the milk for free?" >> Yeah. >> You feel what I'm saying? So, you have a generation. When I got out of prison, I didn't know [ __ ] bro. The girls that I went to school with was dealing with old dudes. They showed me about New York. showed me the constant, showed me the I didn't I HAD THE MONEY, I JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT. >> First time I went to Hawaii, my my partners, we was in Ftown selling uh selling PCP. I told them I was going to Hawaii. They thought I was going to Hawaii Gardens over in Cerritos. They didn't know. And when I went, I sent a a postcard back to my spot, right? And they said, "Man, Marvin, why Kiki?" They said, "How did he get there drive?" NOW WE ALL [ __ ] THAT GOT MONEY, MAN. BEEN TO PRISON. YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT YOU COULD NOT DRIVE TO HAWAII, MAN. >> MAN, we we didn't know what how in the hell you got over there. So the NEXT YEAR I TOOK THEM. >> That's why they say knowledge is power, but knowledge is seek that knowledge. So you got young girls now, their mother haven't given them the 40 year old women trying to twerk, trying to be 20 like they they miss in oh uh uh [ __ ] ain't nothing but whoop the whoop the wham and they carry on that philosophy down their heart get broke. Why should I go to the swamp meet with you and I can go with my home boys cuz at least they going to help me fight. But when you introduced me to the Beverly Center, man, I didn't know nothing about uh um this girl uh uh Sharon Anderson, she took me to um Bloomingdales 19, never seen a Macy's and it was May Company at the time, Sears in California, and I didn't know nothing about a Bloomingdales to took me to Bloomingdales and they was doing FALL FASHION. LIKE, WHAT the [ __ ] WHAT IS A FALL FASHION? I'M LOOKING THERE HAVING FASHION SHOWS IN A store >> and she like Marvin you like you is that cool? Uh at the time I was marvelous Marv right marvelous like that like what >> and I had the money to BUY IT BUT I hadn't had the exposure. >> You dig what I'm saying? You talking about >> what year was that? >> 1977. >> Okay. >> Before you was born. a little bit before. >> Hey, whatever Billy was, he knew what Billy is. But like you talked about a a celebrity. I was in prison in California with a with a man out of Texas named Hollywood Henderson. Hollywood Henderson was a football player. That's right. >> Right. So Henderson, he was out of Tyler, Texas. Say he didn't know nothing. Just a country boy with a gang of money. Right. He said that uh he was invited uh um Don King invited him to a party in in in Las Vegas. Right. And he say he was with Debbie Allen and he say that that that that that um uh Glattis Knight gave me head from uh uh Georgia to memories, right? And he was the man. >> Wait a minute. He said Glattis White Glattis Knight did what? >> Okay. I went head. That's what I said. >> That's what Hollywood told me that he was expo. This is his exposure. Debbie Allen. He went G. He had had a list of them, right? And Anita Pinter, a ugly girl out of the Pointer sisters, right? And he said, Anita Pointer say, "Bro, come here, man." What the hell? He said he had a double knit suit on. You could stretch to Georgia. Said he had some rings on, turquoise rings, steel. He had he said he had a stainless steel check around his neck. Had his whole neck green. He said he had the money, but he didn't know what to do with it. Right. Wow. He said Anita Pointer took him from Las Vegas and put him in the Fairmont Hotel in San Francisco. Took him to Selito, put him silk DRAWS ON, SILK, TOOK THAT TIMEX WATCH OFF OF him and put a Rolex WATCH ON HIM. SAY, I HAD THE MONEY. I JUST DIDN'T KNOW what to do with it. >> So sometime you can have [ __ ] you own or somebody got to show you what to do with it. >> Yeah. Yeah. One of my little homies told me one time we in we in the county jail in the blood module and uh I had on some uh some valley loafers, some burgundy valley lover like damn boy, what you running in them church shoes, man. I'm I see the man said, "Dude, you want man, I'mma be in khakis and and and and and and crocosacks all my life. But blood on blood this I'mma roll this blood. I ain't never giving this [ __ ] up." Right. So I see him about 6 years later. Right. >> What he got on? He he to the teeth. Damn more man I got with this old chick man. She took man put me in man. I see what because now you grew. >> Mhm. >> I said but then you told me one time you would never do this. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Never say never, man. But you have to have the exposure. And our young black girls don't have it. Ain't nobody gave it to them. I'm I'm I'm the R. Kelly of the ghetto. You know what I'm saying? I mean R. Kelly said well I don't piss on people this just say like R. Kelly say on this record he said I'm the pipe piper of R&B. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Say that went over a lot of people head. You know who the pipe piper was, right? >> Explain. Huh? Explain for some who might not know. >> The pipe piper is the pipe piper is a fairy tale, >> right? >> It's a story tale about this guy this city was having problem with rats. >> Mhm. And these rats were overtaking their city >> and he would play the >> and so he played h a h piccolo >> and he told the mayor that I can get rid of your rats for you cuz he was a musician >> and he mesmerized them with the so once he got rid of the rats when he got rid of the RATS THEY WOULDN'T PAY HIM. SO THE PI PIPER TOOK THEIR CHILDREN. >> That's the story of the pi piper. >> Wow. But the pi piper came from the biblical story of Jonah. >> I didn't know that part. >> You You know who Jonah was, right? >> Jonah went through Jonah did not like the Ninevites like bloods don't like crips. And he ran and God had to go get him. Shook him out the belly of the whale they say. But he was in the ghetto. He was so deep in the ghetto and shook him out. And he went to the wall and he was mad as hell. And as he was sitting at the wall, the the the the tree had started dwindling and dying. And he started crying. And God said, "Do you care more about the tree than the people?" And he says, "I commission you to go in and tell him, say, uh Jonah said seven words. If you don't repent in seven days, you will die." And as he was going through the town, the children started following him and they started chanting with him. And as the children chanted, the king heard the chant of the children. And he said that was a revelation. And he took all of his gold off and put on sackcloth and submitted. And the Ninevites is the only race, a black race is the only race in the Bible that was spared for a time. So that's where the the uh the story comes from. Jonah and the children and then the pipe piper. >> Wow. Right. And the pipe piper the exposure to the pipe piper. He learned all the children music and he taught them all music and they left the town and the town had to beg him to get the children back. >> Wow. I want to ask you about Deion Sanders. Like he's winning. Matter of fact, he's more popular than I believe even anything that's popular in the NFL right now. If you really start to look at the ratings of he moved from Mississippi up and he doing a great job. No matter where he goes, he's doing a great job. >> He has a golden touch, I say. >> Yeah. Like like what do you think about him and his movement right now? >> Well, I I don't follow sports. I rob banks. Let's be clear on that. Ain't nobody from the NFL, the HFL, or anybody else ever sent me n package in prison. So, it's another form of slavery to me. >> Okay. >> But dealing with Deion Sanders, the the stuff that I know about him, I'm looking at this brother as to Negroes as misunderstood as Barack Obama was for the stuff that Barack did for black America that you hear people say, "Well, Barack ain't done nothing for us." But what did you do for Barack? What did We always expect somebody to give us something, but we never want to earn it. these white people got us so handicapped that we supposed to they ain't asked what Biden done for us, >> but they talked about well with through uh Barack Obama's tenure and making homes affordable. More blacks owned houses in his administration than any blacks since the 50s. The home health care. I got Hana insurance right now through making uh uh medical affordable. Um the black unicorn factory IPOs, he manifested that. Now getting to Deion Sanders, I heard somebody made a comment the other day that he left the H.B.CU and they would give him $10,000 if they knocked out his son or something. you get you're gonna get somebody hurt because Deion Deion Sanders took his two sons and people that he groomed and took them to Colorado. He had been trying with Mississippi and they wanted to fund everything but a program. He was putting money out of his pockets for Mississippi and they didn't appreciate him. We don't appreciate the people that do for us and then when we go someplace else you call us a sellout us. I'm not saying us cuz I don't play. I can't even throw a baseball. So, let's get it straight. But I'm saying the amazing job that Deion Sanders doing with a black squad. I understand his his quarterback is a black one. >> That's his son. >> So, that's his son. So, he's in Colorado in in a Mormon state putting it down and black people won't stand up on that. He would Mississippi didn't stand with him. Louisiana didn't stand with him. Texas didn't stand with him, but everybody got something to say about him. So all these coons that ain't doing nothing, that ain't brought a team to nothing, ain't brought nobody up, you don't you can't represent 10 people that you made an improvement with. Deion Sanders is making improvements that I'm not inclined with sports, but you just you said today that he got a million dollars from selling glasses. >> That's big. Yeah, he just did that everybody in one day. In one day, you know, it's just like we were talking about Captain Shahid Muhammad. I don't want to take nothing from Deion Sanders and but I'm saying when we don't want to memorialize or give anybody their stripes until they dead. You talk about Martin Luther King, but didn't nobody stand with Martin. Ain't nobody avenged his death either. When we talk all this, you know, Malcolm, all these Malcolm lovers, BUT AIN'T NOBODY PUT UP NO guns and try to avenge his death. Huh? It's just talk. Negroes just talk. You know what I'm saying? The Nation of Islam under Minister Lewis Farrakhan. Wallace Muhammad, the honorable Elijah Muhammad's son, lost all the properties of the Nation of Islam in 1975. The Marcus Garvey movement was destroyed under the King Alfred plan with uh Jahoover COINTEL probe, the Black Panther Party, the US, all all of the black organizations. We've never been able to bring Rosewood back. We've never been able to bring um Black Wall Street. Once something's been destroyed with blacks, it's gone. You want to celebrate it every year, but you DON'T BRING IT BACK TO FLUITION. The Nation of Islam is the only thing that white America's destroyed. In 1977, Minister Farrakhan brought it back and it's in full force with no government help. Every black in America, whether you're Muslim or not, should be trying to help with the independence. You dig what I'm saying? So Dion Sanders and his football program instead of people criticizing, they ought to try to get a black college and let him head a whole black college, you know, >> right? Hey, so um man, listen, man. Thank you so much. Um how can people get a hold of you if they're looking for you, >> man? They can look they can go to Lamarv on, uh YouTube, uh potsgrowfarmms.com, and uh uh potsgrowfarmms on Facebook. man. Hey man, thank you for coming on the show, man. I appreciate you, man. You always give us the stories we need to hear, man. Legend for me. You know what I'm saying? You the uh they say the oldest living Pyro. >> Oldest living. >> That's his new name. I didn't name him like that. Somebody else get named in there. >> Oldest. I guess now I name myself. He said he OG. He a RG now. >> Yeah man. A real gangster. >> Real gangster. It's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101 where the bosses talk. >> Yeah, we on Boss Talk 101. Yeah, we going to talk. We going to have fun. 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