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Judd Apatow’s Existential Terror

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The video explores the concept of existential terror, specifically how the fear of death evolves as people age. The speaker recounts a conversation with an acupuncturist who explained that while young people are naturally terrified of death and driven by a desire to achieve and accomplish things, this fear slowly dissipates over time. In youth, individuals often experience a "youthful madness" characterized by unjustified self-belief and the hope that everything will work out if they just keep taking risks. This mindset is compared to watching Kobe Bryant in his early Lakers years, where he possessed an unshakeable belief that he would figure things out, even when missing shots constantly. The speaker notes that this fearless energy is wonderful in one's twenties, allowing for the creation of bold works like *Reservoir Dogs* or *Boogie Nights*, before older age brings a retreat into caution and questioning of one's path. The transcript also delves into the speaker's personal background regarding spirituality and how it influenced their relationship with mortality. Although the speaker's parents were not religious and never discussed God, the absence of faith created a "gaping hole" that took a lifetime to fill. The speaker admits to holding onto the phrase "Oh God" out of fear rather than belief, noting that the terror surrounding the Soviet Union during the Reagan years added to the anxiety about nuclear attacks. This combination of no religion and high political fear left the speaker without a spiritual framework, making the concept of death even more daunting. The speaker expresses a unique duality in their fear: they are terrified of nothingness after death but also find the idea of living forever equally scary due to its sheer enormity. Ultimately, the discussion concludes with the realization that while the existential terror has lessened for the speaker, it has not disappeared entirely. Through reading Buddhism and exploring various spiritual ideas, the speaker has come down significantly from their earlier state of panic, though they remain unsettled. The core argument suggests that death serves a structural purpose in pleasing the human psyche by getting people off their asses and motivating them to live fully. The journey from the manic hope of youth to the grounded acceptance of later years is presented not as a loss of wonder, but as a healthy understanding of life's relentless nature and the courage required to face its inevitable end without succumbing to despair or denial.
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Number one, existential terror. >> Yes. >> What are you afraid of, son? >> I feel like my existential terror has gotten a little better. Like as you get older, you're like, it won't be that bad to die. >> Yeah. >> You know? >> Well, you you know what the thing that people underrate with suicide? >> Mhm. >> It's a bit of like, I don't have to take this [ __ ] >> [laughter] >> You know what I mean? It's the like life is so relentless, and you're like, you know, I could end this. >> Mhm. >> It's a little bit empowering. >> That was a line that Owen Wilson pitched when we wrote a script together in the '90s. We were writing a movie for him and Rip Torn. And one of the lines he wrote for Rip was uh sometimes the best thing you could say about life is you can end it whenever you want. Um and I don't mean it in the sense of like like a suicidal way. I just mean you know, like I saw this Japanese chiropractor, uh you know, Eastern medicine person. >> The level of doctor this guy's at, [laughter] you not did not insurable. It's Brentwood only. >> is a cash situation. >> Yeah. It's the you not do don't even look it up, guys. You can't you it's word of mouth, and you got to know. >> Yeah. You got to know like people that you can't believe someone would know. >> But as I'm getting acupuncture or something, I just said to her, like, how do you not be afraid of death? She right? [laughter] These are the conversations I have. And she said uh you know, you're supposed to be afraid of death. You know, when you're young, you're supposed to be afraid of death, and that's what your life is, and you're trying to achieve and accomplish and have this life. And then and she said, you'll see as you get older, it slowly dissipates. And I have found that in in in a healthy way that I understand what that is. You have a a youthful madness and energy. >> Mhm. >> Which I always think about in terms of early in my career and all my friends, the madness of thinking that you might succeed. Like the the self-belief that was completely unjustified. There was no proof, there's no evidence that it would work out. >> feeling it's like a mania. >> Yes. >> Or like this this hope that borders on mania. >> Yeah. >> And this like if I succeed, if you and Ben make a TV show that works, and you'll never have another problem. It's over like you're set. And that's what I remember it was like this thing of like if it it everything would takes care of itself. >> It's like I used to watch Kobe Bryant when he first got to the Lakers. I had season tickets. And he just missed so many shots. >> [cheering] >> And you would watch him and he was 18, 19 years old. And he didn't care. There was just a part of him that was like I'm going to figure this out. And then he did and I watched him figure it out. Uh over, you know, a couple of years. But he had that madness of this is going to all work. This plan of having the courage to keep taking risks. >> Yes. >> It'll work. And that's what I look back and see with young people I know now. I think we're built to to go for it and believe anything is possible. And then you get older and you people get retreats and they get more scared and you know, people make less movies and they slow down or they question what they're doing. But there's something really wonderful about being in your 20s and being, you know, like a young Tarantino lunatic making Reservoir Dogs or Paul Thomas Anderson making Boogie Nights. >> Yeah. All right, so what's the existential is it has it gotten how did it get better? You'd think just time? >> I know I my parents weren't religious at all, but they didn't replace it with anything. They never said we don't believe they didn't even said they never even said we don't believe in God. >> Yeah. was not discussed. Ever. >> Did you see you but you would see it in movies, right? And go like what I mean Oh God was out. >> Oh God. I thought you didn't believe in me. >> [music] >> Uh that's just an expression. >> I held onto Oh God. I was hanging onto Oh God for dear life. I wanted George Burns to be God. >> So it you had nothing. >> So I have nothing and also in that period there was a an enormous amount of terror about Russia. So in the you know the Reagan years, the early 80s. They were scaring us into thinking a nuclear attack was going to happen at any moment. >> Yes. >> So that along with no religion, no spirituality. It's not like someone was explaining Buddhism to me. Or reincarnation or anything. That would just became a a gaping hole that it's taken a lifetime to try to fill it with something. >> What is the when you think is it the the however long the death sequence is >> [laughter] >> is it or is it the nothingness that you're afraid that will follow it? >> It's funny because I have a nothingness fear but I also if you said you can live forever that's scarier to me. The idea of that. >> So there's no pleasing you. >> There's no pleasing me. >> [laughter] >> I'm screwed either way. >> The why would that scare I used to want to live forever. What why does that scare you? >> The enormity of it. Uh it's just too much. >> Oh that's interesting. There is something structural about death that pleases the human psyche. >> Gets you off your ass. And you know since then you know I've I've read a lot of Buddhism and I'm I'm interested in and all of those ideas and I'm certainly not settled but I I I probably have come down a lot compared to to what it was.