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Joe Rogan talks about DMT and meeting Jesters in Hyperspace

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The video explores the profound and often disorienting experiences associated with DMT, a powerful psychedelic substance that dissolves ordinary reality and transports users into a hyper-vibrant dimension. In this altered state, individuals encounter entities often described as "Jesters" or elves who communicate through complex geometric fractals and alien languages rather than standard speech. These beings frequently mock the user by giving them the finger, an action interpreted not as hostility but as a playful inoculation against taking oneself too seriously. The visuals in this dimension are described as far more potent and crisp than normal reality, featuring self-transforming entities made of light that interact with the user in ways that defy conventional physics, such as jumping into the chest or pulling objects from existence to display their beauty. Despite the initial shock and fear induced by these intense encounters, the overarching message conveyed by these entities is one of pure love, forgiveness, and wisdom. Users report feeling an overwhelming sense of connection where emotions run through their souls like a cleansing force, leading to a deep appreciation for life and humanity. The experience is characterized as a "merry-go-realm" or a child's play with colored balls, where the terror felt during the encounter serves as a stamp of validity, proving that the experience is real and not merely a product of imagination. Even if one argues that the experience is entirely internal, the intensity and clarity of the sensations make it difficult to dismiss as simple hallucination, suggesting that whether external or internal, the lesson remains consistent: stop worrying about the seriousness of existence and simply observe the wonder unfolding before you. The narrative delves into ancient mythology and esoteric traditions to contextualize these encounters, drawing parallels between the "elves" seen on DMT and historical concepts like the Egyptian Armonian artifices or the Greek world egg. These entities are presented as master builders or dwarfs who fashioned the world using tools that gouged space itself, echoing myths about creation through sound and vibration. The transcript suggests that these beings possess a language of pure meaning that transcends human syntax, appearing as pictorial rules that convey information impossible to translate into English. This connection bridges modern psychedelic experiences with ancient folklore, implying that the "Jokers" or elves are timeless entities that have always been present in human consciousness, waiting to be recognized by those who can look past societal games and social constructs. Ultimately, the core philosophy presented is that of the Joker, a figure who sees all of life's institutions and natural forms as games played for their own sake, devoid of rigid purpose beyond the act of playing itself. The Jesters on DMT embody this perspective by laughing at human seriousness and urging individuals to realize that they are merely roles being played out in a larger cosmic game. By adopting the Joker's viewpoint, one learns to detach from the need for control and the fear of the unknown, embracing the absurdity and beauty of existence with an open mind. The conclusion emphasizes that while society insists on treating life as a serious matter, the true wisdom lies in recognizing the playful nature of reality, allowing the user to let go of ego and fully immerse themselves in the infinite creativity and love of the universe.
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when you do DMT you're like reality dissolves and you're there like the last one that I had was very strange like there was these gestures that were giving me the finger they kept giving me the finger I'm like what is this about and there's this weird fractal thing that's constantly going on but every time I do it it seems like these lessons that are wrapped up in these Visions with communicating entities whatever the [ __ ] they are whether figments of your imagination whether they're real there's always lessons in there they look like Jokers they have like Joker masks on you see them when your eyes are open or your eyes are closed your eyes are closed you see them way more visual the visuals are way more potent than anything you could ever see with your eyes open they give you the finger they're spinning around giving you the fingers a little best well they're having fun with you they're letting you know like stop I think it's their way of telling you not to take yourself seriously what do you think look where we are like you take yourself seriously dude we're we're in another dimension and we're [ __ ] mocking you but you're creating it right your brain's created I don't know yeah I would take I would think so you think there's really something out there what here's I don't know like someone say like maybe it's all in your head when you trip maybe it's not really happening okay maybe however the experience is exactly the same if you really are going into another dimension you really are experiencing love in its purest form and forgiveness and uh just 100 wisdom like all the [ __ ] and all the flaws of your thinking and all of the the ridiculous aspects of the world around you revealed in some wonderful Dance by Jesters who are giving you the finger in a never-ending complex geometric pattern even if it's not real it's still the same experience sure like if you really do go to that Dimension and you really do experience these in incredibly enlightened beings and they really do instill upon you wisdom and you really do hold on to a few grains of that that sand that slips through your finger you hold on to a little bit of it while you're there you got handfuls but you just hold on to a little bit it's still the same experience yeah it's real son it's real easy to dismiss and say it's all in your imagination but for someone who has experienced it it's very difficult to accept and it's very difficult for you to say that you know for sure that it's all your imagination if you haven't experienced it I it's very I I appreciate from a from a an intelligence standpoint someone's perspective on it that hasn't experienced it but the reality is until you know what you're talking until you've actually gone into that thing and know how titanically alien it is you you're really just saying things you're just making noises with your mouth it's no way there's no way you could know it's you're not there anymore you go to a different place you experience a different reality more real than what we normally interpret as reality that's the most [ __ ] up part about it is it's so much crisper and more vibrant and brighter and then reality itself seems muted in some odd way these gestures were all going [ __ ] you I was like why are they going [ __ ] you I was trying to figure out what it is it's like it's almost uh an inoculation to hostility like they're like letting you like what why even taking this in like you know what it why are you even concentrating on that this is pointless there's so much more that's what they tell you when you do DMT that's what those things are doing when they're giving you the finger they're like uh you [ __ ] idiot you take yourself seriously one of my trips one of the most profound ones um it was like these like almost like children that were in this this Dimension children that were like infinitely more intelligent than me but behaved like children and communicated like children and they would say I love you 600 million 500 000 times like something like a kid would say like I love you infinity I love you 50 million seven hundred thousand Fifth and like you know like that kind of [ __ ] they would say that and then they would go look at this and they kept saying look at this and every time they would say look at this they would show you something that was so impossibly beautiful like tears were like flowing down my face because I was conscious I was I had my eyes closed and I was seeing this and I was conscious but I was crying because it was so beautiful and then they would say it again I love you 600 million 500 000 times look at this and then they would show you something even more insane like a million times more insane didn't make any sense it's just you can't describe it just the the fractal nature of the universe embodied in imagery which also had meaning and love connected to it so when you're seeing it you weren't just seeing something beautiful but you were feeling it and it was like almost like it was running through your soul like it was cleansing you as you saw it like everything that I saw made me every time I saw it every new thing made me love people more made me love life more maybe more appreciative made me want to hug more and then I thought that was over and they would go look at this and then you'd get hit with a new wave and it was just overwhelming I'm just crying I couldn't couldn't hold it in it was just so unbelievably intense [ __ ] man I've had trips that stuck with me for five or six years where every day I would think about that trip for five or six years tryptamine hallucinogens these are short-acting very powerful psychedelic drugs and the reason we were so interested in these drugs is because in encounters with it in the pure chemical form it was in very the intoxication was invariably characterized by encounters with elves gnomes fairies thousands of these things and this was uh and this is something I'm going to um you know try and convince the UFO community of what we drug people have that you don't is repeatability and the scientists always said to you UFO people what you don't have is repeatability they don't want to even talk to us but it is true that that when you smoke DMT for example at a sufficiently high and prepared dose you get elves everybody does uh you may not believe it but on the other hand it only takes five minutes to prove that I'm bullshitting you a hundred percent you want contact you want elves you want alien intelligence you'll have it up the kazoo you are instantly plunged into an environment of Elf intelligence self-transforming machine elves I call these things or Tykes it's not clear they are made of matter they are made of light their status and the phylogeny of biology is extraordinarily murky and they compounding forward like badly trained dogs cheering they say here you are you may all recall some of you may recall that old Pink Floyd song the Gnomes have learned a new way to say hooray so there you are and now 20 seconds before you were in an apartment somewhere with your scuzzy friends doing drugs now that's gone and you are in this place being confronted by these entities and one of the things they do that's quite disconcerting is they come jumping up or dribbling up to you and then they will sort of vibrate in place then they jump into your chest then they jump back out but the main thing is they are doing something very very interesting what they're doing is they I called the reason I call them language elves is because they possess an antos of language that is completely alien to us they use a language which you can see they can condense meaning before your very eyes for them syntax is not acoustical rules it's pictorial rules and they are doing this they will scramble forward elbowing each other jumping up and down very excited and they say look at this look at this and they pull objects sing objects into existence and show them to you and as your attention goes into these things you you are it's the emotion is Indescribable these objects are made of gold Ivory smaragine chalcedony beryllium terbium flesh Gold Blood heat tears and it's all changing morphing as you look at it and as you look at this you have without an iota of doubt the conviction if I could bring this thing across it would end human history argument would cease you would just say look look at this and they're pushing each other away showing you look at this one look at this one these objects themselves emit sound and make other objects it's impossible to make these things the nearest analogy would be to the Faberge eggs or something like that but these things are like the toys that are scattered around the nursery inside a UFO or something Celestial choice and they are the toys themselves appear to be somehow alive the toys themselves can uh sing other objects into existence so what's happening is there's just this proliferation of else gifts and the elf gifts are moving around singing and the whole thing is directed towards they're saying do what we are doing and the entity say they say don't give way to Amazement don't flip out about how you can't believe it and it's impossible and so forth and so don't do that just pay attention pay attention to what we are doing and what we are showing you and what they preach is a new dispensation of language a language that can be beheld the demons are of many kinds some are made of ions some of mine the ones of ketamine you'll find stutter often and are blind and of all the others I might say as well it is not that you kneel in genuflection before a God because you will be like Dorothy before Oz there is no dignity in the universe unless you meet these things on your feet and that means that you have an eye thou relationship and you say okay well you say you're omniscient omnipresent or you say you're from Zeta reticuli or you say you say you're long on talk but what can you show me and magicians people who invoke these things have always understood that you go into it with your wits about you and you find yourself in a space it has a feeling of being underground or somehow insulated and domed it's what in Finnegan's wake is called the merry-go realm from the German word realm for space and you actually the room is going around and in that space you feel like a child you feel that you have come out somewhere in eternity and it always reminds me of the 53rd fragment of heraclitus which is the Aeon is a child at play with colored balls and you not only become the aeonic play with colored balls but there are entities which are self-transforming machine elves but and this is sort of what they are they're um dynamically contorting topological modules that are somehow distinct from the surrounding background which is itself undergoing this continuous transformation they all I always think of the scene in The Wizard of Oz after the house Knocks The Witch down and she's in Munchkin land and the head of the munchkins comes with a scroll and they all have very squeaky voices and they sing a little song about you are absolutely and completely dead and they're marching around here so the munchkins come these hyperdimensional machine now entities and they bathe you in love it's a kind of um well it's not erotic and it's not heartful but it sure feels good and what they are saying is don't be alarmed remember and do what we are doing what is necessary to have validity in these experiences is uh the terror the terror is the stamp of validity on the experience because it means you know this is real we are in the balance and uh in these states with these tryptamine drugs we read the literature we know what the maximum doses are the ld50 this and that but so great is one's faith in mind that when you are out there you know that the rules of pharmacology do not really apply and that control of existence on the plane is a matter of decision and luck and the role of the dice so they are reassuring you these little entities and saying don't worry don't worry do this look at this meanwhile uh you are completely there your fear reflexes are intact you are not fuzzed out at all you know and it persists and it persists and you breathe and it persists and they're saying you know don't don't get some Loop of Wonder going that quenches your ability to understand to just try not to be so amazed try to hang in and look at what we're doing and what they're doing is um emitting sounds like music like language and these sounds pass as Philo judeas said that the logos would when it became perfect pass from being heard without ever going over a quantized moment of Distinction into things beheld and so what you you hear and behold a language of alien meaning which is taking place right in front of you and it is conveying alien uh information which cannot be englished now being a monkey there is a there is a kind of cognitive dissonance that is set up in your hind brain when you encounter an unenglishable object because you try to pour mind over it and it just sheds it like water off the duck's back and then you try again and you are looking at it and this cognitive dissonance this WOW or flutter that is building off the subject causes Wonder or awe awe at the brink of Terror so you have to keep controlling that and the way to control it is to do what they're telling you to do which is do what we are doing I had one trip where metaphorically not having hands they all turned and waved and said deja vu deja vu let us go back to our Egyptian religion where we learn that ta ptah the putter of Memphis the deity who fashioned the world upon a punished wheel in the form of the Egg of sin the great Mother Goose by the way a little tie up to our territory and our prayer stories and our Mother Goose Legends because in several religions the world was the was created in the form of the egg of a Mother Goose rather curious but folklore accepted and distorted these things almost Beyond resemblance to the facts but tah who fashioned the world a similar to the world egg of the Greeks which broke into the golden and silver hemispheres and gave birth to Catherine Pollocks but this egg Fashion on The Potter's Wheel was the work of the masseter Builder the master pucker and tar was the lord governor and presiding genius over the seven armonian artifices and these ammonium artifices in Egypt were Dwarfs mysterious little beings represented politically as gnome-like figures Each of which held in its hand the bare Knight held in this kind of a position a bright night these were the knives with which the worlds were gouged out of space and the Seven armonian artifices are said to have come out of the Earth near the site of the Great Pyramid they were the ancient ones the formators the fashioners of things and they were therefore among the Egyptians beliefs about the seven creating powers or laws in the ancient khabar the creating Fiat or word was spoken in the form of the seven vowels two of which again were mystery vowels or Secret Letters which could not be known and for the deficiency of which the Great Name could not be restored captured or preserved in the Jewish early Works in Genesis we find in the opening chapters the Elohim and the Elohim are the seven creating powers of the great deity who is said to have passioned the world in the opening chapters of Genesis these are the spirits of God that moved upon the face of the deeper their number is identical with that of the armonian artifices of Egypt they were the powers of creating attributes released by the speaking of the word of creation and this word was always a word composed about should we go back to the mystery of the five Dash seven vowels all these points to all these things point to some kind of a Doctrine which frankly and obviously is very difficult to trace after so long the time but it meant something and had a very clear and definite bearing upon the entire structure of the universal organization as it was known to the ancients I have been discussing the role of a certain person called The Joker The Joker being the one who has insight into the fact that all our social institutions are games the social game is played with an initial rule the first rule being this game is serious or this game is not a game and therefore there is a tendency within Society to resist very strongly any notion that what it is doing is not altogether serious and at a still deeper level beneath the level of social institutions there is also the recognition on the part of the Joker that the basic forms of nature are also games the human game the Rabbit game the mouse game the B game the tree game the stone game because all these are forms of a musical nature that is to say they are forms played for themselves they are played in the most intimate interconnection and interrelationship with each other but they don't have any purpose beyond what is happening in the same way as music and dancing but when people take games seriously and part of the fun of the game you must remember is to take it seriously they acquire an attitude which strikes the joker as being half funny and sometimes a little pitiful a good Joker is inclined really not to laugh at people because uh if a person is terribly seriously involved in the sense of the kind of person we call colloquially a square The Joker feels sorry for them because they live a deprived life to play the game and to know it the game can be quite fascinating and not uh really giving the show away but giving it away enough somehow and that you see is the the Joker's function [Applause] so what he is doing then is he is in a point of view where he sees all that is going on as a game he doesn't take anything seriously when I bring up the Joker of course we are in a way discussing it in term of a game of cards because the Joker is the card Beyond role the car that's wild that can be any card in the pack in other words it's delivered from being a particular someone and can be in anyone and it pops up here and it pops up there and it pops up here and you'll never know where is the Joker who is the Joker you see the thing that uh that we have to understand really is that all the roles are the Joker Playing them and the Joker is looking at you out of all pairs of eyes there he is only he's pretending very often that he's not the Joker at all oh no this is just me I'm not the Joker where is the Joker that's what they tell you when you do DMT that's what those things are doing when they're giving you the finger they're like uh you [ __ ] idiot you take yourself seriously