Video summary
The video features a dialogue between two hosts discussing controversial claims made by an American pastor regarding Islam, prophecy, and the end times. The guest pastor argues that while he loves individual Muslims, he hates Islam as a demonic ideology that destroys people and their eternities. He contends that many Christians are hypocrites for claiming to love Muslims while simultaneously hating Islam, noting that other religions like Judaism also contain harsh critiques of Jesus Christ found in texts like the Talmud. The host challenges this perspective by pointing out the historical context of such criticisms and questioning why Islam is singled out as the primary "dark force" rather than secularism or other faiths, especially given the violent actions of Christian nations throughout history against Jewish populations.
A significant portion of the discussion focuses on biblical theology, specifically the interpretation of God's covenant with Abraham. The pastor asserts that the promise to Abraham was meant for a single future offspring, which he identifies as Jesus Christ, rather than multiple descendants like Ishmael and Isaac. He argues that Paul's letters support this singular lineage theory, leading to the conclusion that Muslims tracing their lineage to Ishmael are part of a false narrative. The host counters by explaining the linguistic nuances of Hebrew collective nouns and suggests that the pastor's reliance on Paul is problematic since Paul himself altered the original gospel message regarding the Mosaic law, circumcision, and dietary restrictions, effectively changing Jesus' teachings before Muhammad appeared.
The conversation also addresses the concept of spiritual warfare and the nature of false prophets in relation to the end times. The pastor claims that Islam represents the "final boss" or the ultimate deception predicted by Jesus, where people will be killed thinking they are serving God. He cites verses about angels from heaven preaching a different gospel and connects Muhammad's experience in the cave to Satan masquerading as an angel of light. The host refutes this by highlighting historical instances of head-beheading in both the Bible and the Quran, arguing that violence against infidels is not unique to Islam but is present in various religious texts. He further critiques the guest's worldview for ignoring the moral decay and violence associated with American secularism and military interventions, suggesting that blaming a minority religion for global darkness lacks self-reflection.
Ultimately, the video concludes with a critique of how Christians interpret scripture to fit their political and cultural biases rather than adhering strictly to the original teachings of Jesus. The host emphasizes that Jesus was sent specifically to the lost children of Israel as a prophet for them, not as a universal savior who claimed divinity in the way modern Trinitarian theology suggests. He argues that if Muhammad is correcting the false gospel introduced by Paul, then Islam serves as a return to the original monotheistic path taught by Jesus and earlier prophets. The dialogue ends with an invitation for viewers to reflect on their own interpretations of religious texts and historical events without automatically attributing all global suffering to a specific religion, urging a more balanced and historically accurate understanding of prophecy and faith.
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>> And um so, he wanted me to ask you about
Islam and prophecy. Oh, jeez. Okay. All
right.
Just go with it.
>> Yeah, just go with it, man. Absolutely
amazing. Of course, let's ask a
Christian pastor, an evangelical, about
the end times in Islam. Because, yeah,
he's the authority on that subject.
Let's go.
>> Just go for it. Hit it. All right. You
already know. If you watch this, you
know we go to some dark dark dark
>> Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's go.
Okay. [clears throat]
Well, quick caveat.
>> I have to interrupt one more time here.
What is this, man? Oh, yeah, yeah, if
you know this, we go to very, very dark,
dark topics here. Why do Americans
Ah, okay. I kind of answered my own
question here. I wanted to ask, why do
Americans always associate some sort of
darkness with Islam? Of course, people,
especially people that have been in the
military, and I think Shawn Ryan was in
the military, will associate Islam with
9/11. So, here's the answer for that.
>> Uh I'm just going to start right here.
Uh I'm a pastor.
And what my heart beats for more than
anything else
is for everybody, everywhere, to know
Jesus Christ and the love of the Father.
So, my That's my starting point. So,
before I say anything, I want you, Eli,
and anybody else that listens to know,
um I love every person that calls
himself a Muslim.
And I hate Islam because it destroys
people and eternities.
And I can do both of those things. I can
love a person, and I can hate what I
believe is a demonic demonic ideology.
>> Mhm.
>> So, let me just point some things out.
>> [clears throat]
>> Yeah, completely mentally ill, of
course. I mean, really, think about what
he's saying there. He's telling you that
he knows Jesus Christ, and he wants you
all to know Jesus Christ. This is
amazing. I just uploaded a video of a
pastor that dropped out of Christianity
after being a pastor in a Bible school
for 20 straight years. And while they're
in their cult, of course, they will tell
you, "I know Jesus Christ, and everybody
should know him and love Jesus Christ."
But the reality is this is a mental
illness. They do not know Jesus Christ.
It's absolutely impossible to know Jesus
Christ. Jesus Christ was a person. Jesus
Christ in our belief system was a
prophet. But even if you don't believe
that he was a prophet, he certainly
lived 2,000 years ago, then, according
to mainstream historians. But right now,
he's not here. If you look around, you
cannot find Jesus. Of course, they will
tell you, "Jesus Christ lives in my
heart, etc., etc." You essentially have
a relationship with a delusion, with an
imaginary friend of sorts. You know when
they're making fun of children when they
have an imaginary friend? "Hey guys,
this is Timmy, my best friend." You're
doing the exact same thing here. You
believe that you're speaking to a person
that is not here right now. You say that
you should love that person and at the
same time you say that you should love
the Father. Of course, if we go into
Trinitarian theology, then the Father
and the Son are not the same being in
that sense. They do have the same
essence, they're both God, but at the
same time they are two different
persons. But, in reality, in your world
view, it is both gods. So, therefore,
why do you say that you should love
Jesus and then you should have to love
the Father? Why not simply stick with
one if they're all equally God? But,
here it clearly shows that they don't
even believe that themselves. Anyways,
the point of the story is that most, not
all, but definitely most of those
Christian evangelicals are absolute
hypocrites and passive-aggressive as
well, of course. They will tell you,
"I just love Muslims." And then they
cannot hold their breath to just spit
out and tell you, "But, I hate Islam."
And that can be both true, but I often I
just want the best for people because
Islam is demonic. Okay, why is Islam
demonic? Please tell me that. How is
Islam demonic if it is the only religion
besides Christianity who tells you that
Jesus Christ is the Messiah and that
Jesus Christ is an exalted prophet and
that we love Jesus Christ? So, now it
doesn't take a genius to simply question
yourself, "Okay, are there any other
that speak badly about Jesus Christ or
maybe don't speak about Jesus Christ at
all?" Sure, go into Buddhism, Hinduism,
those people or those theologies do not
care about Jesus Christ one bit. But, if
you go even further as good goys here
and you look into what the Jewish
religion tells you, the Talmud says that
Jesus Christ, I said this a billion
times, but you cannot repeat this
enough, is boiling in excrement and that
his mother is a prostitute. So, wouldn't
that be the most demonic religion then?
All of the Christian perspective. And
even if you look into the early church
fathers, you will find of course a lot
of critique on other religions. Surely,
you will find a lot of critique on
Islam. But with the earliest church
fathers, you will find tons of harsh
critique against Judaism. I don't know
exactly which church father it was, but
he stated that essentially the
synagogues are whorehouses. Yes, truly.
This was the opinion of the earliest
church fathers. But nowadays, those
evangelicals, because they're all
pro-Israel, well, they completely forgot
that there are other religions that
actually speak bad about Jesus Christ.
But somehow Islam is the demonic one.
Make it make sense, please.
>> So, like some things that are
interesting to me.
And let me give a quick I want to set
this up. So, like especially you maybe
you Sean or maybe some people that are
listening.
>> [gasps]
>> You're going to hear some things
here in a in a minute. You'll be like,
man, there's some real dark stuff in the
world like In fact, I think a lot of the
reason that you're seeing a resurgence
of the purposes of God a right I I think
Sean I think a rising hope. I think we
got a chance to see something special,
man.
>> I do, too.
>> I think we got I think we got a chance.
And I'm I'm willing to pour my my life
out for it.
I think part of the reason, dude,
is
in the era leading up to where we're at
now. And I'm going to get back to what
you just asked. I'm I'm making my way
there.
Is the obviousness of darkness became so
smack you in the face
that people awoke they they awakened to
the reality
>> Okay. Okay. Okay. Hey, and why is there
darkness in the world? Is it due to
Islam? Islam that is prohibiting
gambling, interest, prostitution,
alcohol? The list goes on. Is Islam
therefore the reason why you have
darkness in America? America, originally
a Christian country that secularized
pretty much from the get-go. You got rid
of the church, you got rid of religion,
and now every 10th of your daughters is
a OnlyFans Those are the
statistics, and I don't have to talk
about suicide rates, antidepressant use,
about painkillers,
whatever, man. If you look at the
States, it is the origin of the
generosity. Pornhub, Hollywood, etc.,
etc. It all stems from America. And yes,
now the world is in darkness, and some
Oh, you're still going to tie it to
Islam. Amazing.
>> non-ignorable dark force in the world.
>> Mhm.
>> And then, dude, I think what a what a
lot of people do, especially young men
right now,
is they're going, "Man, if there's a
darkness, there must be a light."
>> Mhm.
>> And that light has a name, and his name
is Jesus Christ. I honestly think
>> No, the name is Allah. The name is Noor,
the light of Allah.
>> think that's a lot of what's going on.
Now, that dovetails with what you're
saying. I want to point some things out
that, you know, you or anybody else can
think I'm an idiot. That's fine. You
know, what whatever.
I'm going to point some things out.
>> Well, at least he has some
self-reflection. That is good.
>> All right. So, um uh what uh what
Muslims do, in general, uh what a lot of
Muslims do, is they trace their
spiritual lineage to Ishmael. So, we're
going to do we're going to Bible nerd
out for a second, and we're going to go
uh we're going to do some Old Testament
theology and then make our way forward,
okay? So, we're going
I we're going to do a little Bible study
real quick.
So, in the old covenant, God God makes
his covenant with Abraham, who becomes
Abraham, okay? And he tells Abraham,
"Through you and your offspring" and
it's very interesting, Shawn. This is
very interesting. Just for I I'm I'm
Bible guy.
When it says offspring, it's singular.
So, in other words, you have you're
going to have one future offspring. And
through that one future offspring,
somebody out of your lineage, Abraham,
is going to bless the entire world,
okay? How do you
>> Okay, let's fact-check this. The key
Hebrew word is zera, literally seed, and
by extension offspring {slash}
descendants. The crucial problem is zera
is a collective noun. In biblical
Hebrew, zera is grammatically singular,
even when it refers to many descendants.
It works somewhat like English
offspring. Abraham's offspring. It could
mean one child or 10,000 descendants.
You don't normally say offsprings. This
isn't controversial. When zera means
posterity, descendants, the Hebrew Bible
normally uses the singular form. The
context tells you whether one person or
group is intended.
Well, there you go, smarty pants. Thank
you very much for this absolute
nonsense.
>> You know what? Singular.
In the book of Galatians, it
specifically talks about that. In the
New Testament, the Apostle Paul calls
attention to the fact that it says
offspring. So, Paul is I'm what I'm
doing right now is I'm making the same
point the Apostle Paul makes in the New
Testament. And it so points that out.
It's a singular, okay?
Now,
>> Okay, he probably talks about Galatians
3:16. The promises were spoken to
Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does
not say and to seeds, meaning many
people, but and to your seed, meaning
one person who is Christ. So, this is
the explanation about the issue that he
is bringing up here. He speaks about the
singular seed.
I mean, this is the Christian
interpretation. Of course, I couldn't
give a rat's ass about what Paul thinks,
who was a false prophet anyways, but
let's entertain it for a second here,
and let's say Paul is right, and he's
absolutely truthful, because yes, he saw
Jesus Christ alone in the desert, and
nobody else saw it, but let's just trust
that guy. Anyways, he said seed, but
with the meaning here that that singular
meaning here then leads into Christ,
meaning that Christ himself is the seed
of Abraham, the descendant of Abraham.
This is not about Abraham having two
sons or whatsoever. And honestly, why
How a even care about this? You are
of European descent and therefore you're
not from Abraham's seed anyways, man.
You're not from Isaac, you're not from
Ishmael, you're not from any of those
guys. So therefore, why do you even care
about the singularity or the
multiplicity of seed? But anyways, the
reason why Paul speaks about the
singularity of the seed here, the
meaning of the singularity is because it
leads to Christ and not to other people.
That's it.
>> So Paul is I'm what I'm doing right now
is I'm making the same point the Apostle
Paul makes in the New Testament. And it
so points that out. It's a singular,
okay?
Now, obviously, there's nations that
come out of him and all of that stuff.
So but but there's a the specific
promise is going to find its termination
in one future offspring that I'll just
pull my punch is Jesus Christ. Okay? So
that that's where we start.
Now, [clears throat]
>> Yeah, of course, because you believe
Paul. It's really mind-blowing to me
that Christians believe in Paul. Again,
just a quick reminder here, Paul never
met Jesus. Matter of fact, Paul, after
he had this vision on the road to
Damascus, after he killed a bunch of
early followers of Christ, gets into an
argument with James, which is the
brother of Jesus Christ. So it's
Yeah, if I have to place my bet, I'd
rather place it on the brother than
Paul. Saulos.
>> The promise and the covenant that was
given to Abraham, obviously, he he was
going to have a child. Now, uh the child
uh he has to wait for a long time and
he's waiting around for the promise to
happen. And he takes matters into his
own hands and uh and his wife is the
whole deal. His wife Sarah gives him his
servant Hagar and they have essentially
a a covenantally illegitimate child
named Ishmael. Then later, he and Sarah
have a child named Isaac. So here's what
you got. What you end up with because of
he and Sarah's disobedience is you have
one covenant
but you have two sons.
And now we got a problem because
[clears throat] now we got two sons
they're going to end up fighting uh and
all of their offspring are going to end
up fighting uh in the spiritual realm, I
believe it's connected to that over this
one covenant. So, then what you have is
you have
the children of the promise who who that
those are the Jewish people
historically. And then you have what
Muslims do is they
>> Historically, the Jews are
>> [laughter]
>> the children of the promise. Of course,
historically, they're the chosen ones.
This is absolutely true.
>> trace their lineage to Ishmael. So, this
is what you
>> son.
>> The other son.
>> Okay.
>> Okay. So, now one covenant, two sons.
Now, you got a thing going on. Okay, you
got that thing going on. Okay. Now, fast
forward in Galatians 1:8, Paul
>> that thing going on. You got that thing
going on, man. You got that thing going
on. The thing is which thing do you got
going on, man? Historically, the Muslims
and the Jews, they've been fighting
forever. Is that really true? If you
look at most wars against Jews, do I
have to remind you, man?
>> [laughter]
>> Who was it in in most recent times? Who
was this prominent Austrian painter that
somehow decided to kick them all out of
Europe? If there truly is a spiritual
battle, or ethnical battle, or even a
historical battle between a group of
people and the Jews,
in 90% of the instances, it is a
Christian nations. Look when the Jews
got kicked out of Spain, for example, as
well, right? Historically, if you look
at the caliphates, Jews were able to
live in the caliphates. Matter of fact,
when they got kicked out of Europe, they
lived in the Ottoman Empire. So, what
are you talking about, man?
>> Paul says this.
He says, "But even if we or an angel
from heaven" Now, this is really
important. I'm going to give you two
verses where you can connect some dots.
He says, "But even if we or an angel
from heaven should appear to you and
preach to you another gospel, let him be
accursed." Bookmark that in your head.
Then you got another Bible verse in the
New Testament that says that what Satan
does is he quote masquerades as an angel
of light.
All right.
Now, dude,
>> [clears throat]
>> I'm a I'm a you know, I'm a dumb rural
Kentucky kid.
>> That's true.
>> But you start putting some things
together and in the the 600s, what
Muhammad says happens is he Now, first
of all, let me just say I'm not like
some Islamic scholar. I'm doing
30,000-ft big rocks. What he says
happens is he wanders in a cave
and he essentially does this. He goes,
"Man,
man, I was in there and this real weird
thing happened.
I was in there and this angel of light
appeared to me
and it it he started revealing to me
>> Okay, let's just stop it right there,
man.
Okay, dumb Kentucky kid. Sahih
al-Bukhari, let's read the first time
when Jibril, Gabriel, appears to the
prophet, peace be upon him. He used to
go in seclusion in the cave of Hira,
where he used to worship Allah alone
continuously for many days before his
desire to see his family. He used to
take with him the journey food for the
stay and then come back to his wife
Khadijah to take his food likewise again
till suddenly the truth descended upon
him while he was in the cave of Hira.
The angel came to him and asked him to
read. The prophet sallallahu alayhi
wasallam replied, "I do not know how to
read." Okay, so please, can you tell me
now where the angel of light is, dear
Kentucky kid?
>> a another way to God that's different
than the one that we've had.
Now, dude, all of a sudden I'm going,
"Wha- well, that's real interesting."
Because 600 years before he's doing his
thing, you got a Bible Bible verse
saying what Satan does is he masquerades
as an angel of light. And then you have
a spec- you have a specific warning
that throughout history
that an angel from heaven may appear and
reveal to you another gospel. Why?
Because Jesus came and he said, "I am
the way, the truth, and the life." And
>> Okay. [clears throat] Okay. Okay. Okay.
So, how is the message that is received
by Muhammad different from Jesus'
message? Please tell me that. First and
foremost, Jesus Christ himself warns
about false prophets. Is it not true?
Yes, it is. And then after Jesus
Christ's departure, you have Paul. And
Paul comes with a different message.
Jesus Christ tells you that nothing,
nothing, zero, zilch of the law, the
Mosaic law, will be changed until the
end of times. Then Paul comes and
removes circumcision, allows you to eat
pork, etc., etc. Right? So, the first
one that changed the gospel, so to
speak, that changed the way of the
Christ, is Paul himself, man. You cannot
sit there and justify it. It's
completely impossible. Jesus Christ left
you with the Lord's Prayer, where he
prayed to the Father alone. Nothing more
and nothing less. Then Paul, through his
Christological arguments and later
additions and after him as well, he
basically set this stone into rolling.
People start worshipping Jesus Christ.
This is the false prophet. This is the
different gospel. Muhammad comes to
correct it again and bring it back to
the path of Jesus Christ. Muhammad
preaches exactly what Jesus Christ
preached.
>> Nobody comes to the Father except
through me.
And you know, I just want to say this,
and this gets me a little trouble. You
know, you may
>> Yeah, dude. Oh my god, man. Listen. When
Jesus Christ was there, and even in your
Bible it says that Jesus Christ was a
prophet. Right? So, we have to agree
upon that. Even if you believe that he
was God, he was as well a prophet, which
of course is self-defying, because if
you are a prophet, then you are calling
people to God. And yeah, you wouldn't be
a prophet if you're calling people to
yourself. But anyways, even in your
Bible yet again, Jesus Christ is named a
prophet. And so now, during his
ministry, he as the prophet is of course
the way.
But if you are the way, you cannot be
the destination, man. I know in
Christianity you are everything, but the
point of the story is that yes, he was a
prophet, he was the way. He says as well
in your Bible that he was sent only to
the lost children of Israel. So, he was
a prophet for the people of Israel, not
for the whole world. And he was the way
for the people then of Israel to lead
them to the father. End of story, man.
Very, very simple. During the time of
Abraham, Abraham was the way. During the
time of Moses, Moses was the way. During
the time of Noah, Noah was the way to
God. May peace be upon them all.
>> I have some experience with this. Every
now and then you'll be something the
internet will get mad at you. That
happens to me.
And uh
and you know uh
>> Yeah, you know, maybe don't talk
about other religions then, man.
>> One of the things that uh pastors don't
have to try to be controversial. They
just got to read Bible verses.
And [snorts] one of the things that
Jesus said the mad people they just hate
it.
But it's mad I didn't say this, Jesus
said it.
And man, I'd be what kind
[clears throat] of I'd be a horror I'd
be a liar not to tell you what Jesus
said.
And he said he was the way, the truth,
and the life, and nobody comes to the
father father except through him. What
he didn't say is I am a way, a truth,
and a life, and some people come to the
father except through me or also through
me.
So, then you got that. So, uh
>> Yeah, okay. I don't have to repeat it
yet again, right? During his lifetime,
he was a prophet for the children of
Israel. And there he speaks and he's
being quoted that he is the truth and
the way and the light, okay? Does it
make sense now? Similar things have been
said by Moses. Similar things have been
said by Abraham and similar things have
been said by Muhammad. All of those
prophets during their time are the way
to God, i.e. the father in your
doctrine.
>> Yeah, the birth of Islam and it seems to
me, man, like it's the fulfillment of
exactly what was warned against in the
scriptures. Now, I'll give you I'll give
you two other things.
Jesus said, I think it's in the Gospel
of John.
He said the time will come and he's
talking about the end.
Okay?
I'm not a a huge end times guy, but uh
he's talking about the end.
And he says the The is coming when they
will kill you and think they are
offering service to God.
Now, um I think what a lot of people
have done in especially in America for
like
>> Okay, uh yeah, let's go back to
Christian times, essentially the
establishment of the church, when the
church persecuted the earliest believers
of Christianity, basically called them
heretics, what have you, every heretic,
every idolater and whatnot got killed
all in the name of Jesus. All right, so
could this be what we're talking about?
Those Christians have no self-reflection
at all.
>> the last 30-50 years
is a lot of Christians have been like,
man, we're nervous about the rise of
secularism and the rise of atheism and
people are just deconverting and you
know, apostatizing, that kind of thing.
But you know, honestly, you take that
verse that Jesus said real clearly,
and what Jesus seems to be saying is it
like the final boss,
like when Jesus like right before Jesus
returns, the final boss, it's not going
to be atheism, it's not going to be
secularism.
It's going to be some other religion.
>> Okay, dum-dum. So, as you can see, it's
not about the verses of the Bible that
anybody gets mad at you at all. It is
your interpretation. Because Jesus
Christ never claims that there will be
another religion and that religion then
will fight against the Christians or
anything on those lines. He says that
people will kill you in the name of God.
You guys don't even believe that Allah
is God in the first place. Should I
again point out the obvious? Crusades.
And no, they were not all defensive of
the Christians, not at all, actually.
So, you're really so limited in your
worldview that you come to the
conclusion that Islam now is the
boogeyman. Yeah, Islam is the end boss.
Islam is already here for over a
thousand years. So, if it was the rise
of Islam, wouldn't you already have the
end times after the biggest expansion of
Islam? So, basically, thousand years
ago, the end times should have been
already here. And And now again, this
lack of self-reflection is killing me,
man. When you guys stormed the Arabian
world, the American Army that is, to get
your oil, to get your heroin and
whatnot, what did you find there? Did
you find gambling people? Did you find
their degeneracy? What did you find? You
found pious people, religious people,
people that worshipped God, and you
bombarded them, massacred them, and
raped them, all in the name of
democracy, of course. Yeah? And so now
again, look into the mirror and look
what kind of hellhole America is.
Gambling, alcoholism, drug abuse,
fornication, separation, divorces,
broken homes, etc., etc., you name it,
right? And now you still cannot make the
link and say, "Well, this must be due to
secularism. This must be due to
feminism, etc." No, no, it's Islam,
don't you see? Islam, the 1%
group of the population in America, the
Muslims, it's their fault. Wow, man.
>> that believes that killing infidels
is offering service to God. Seems like
that's one clear uh
meaning of what you just said. Now, I'll
give you one other one, and then I'll
I'll I'll
I'll just point this out. In the book of
Revelation, again, Revelation is peeling
back the curtain on like, "Man, what's
been going on in the spiritual realm
throughout human history?"
>> Killing infidels, yeah? So, infidels,
it's an American word, so we don't
really use that in the Quran anyways,
but okay, infidels meaning apostate,
basically, somebody that doesn't believe
in your religion, a heretic, if you
will, right? This would be an infidel.
Okay, fine. Yet again, the church has
persecuted infidels, man. That is your
doctrine, bro, since the get-go.
Worshiping other gods, i.e., being an
apostate, being a heretic, being an
infidel, right? This is your Bible. If a
prophet or one who foretells by dreams
appears amongst you and announces to you
a sign or wonder, and if the sign or
wonder spoken of takes place, and the
prophet says, "Let us follow other gods,
gods you have not known, and let us
worship them. You must not listen to the
words of that prophet or dreamer. The
Lord your God is testing you to find out
whether you love him with all your heart
and with all your soul. Mind you, this
is the Old Testament, nobody knows about
Jesus. Nobody's worshipping a trinity.
Nobody sees this as essential for their
salvation. Those people worship Yahweh
or Elohim. It is the Lord your God you
must follow and him you must revere.
Keep his commands and obey him. Serve
him and hold fast to him. That prophet
or dreamer must be put to death for
inciting rebellion against the Lord your
God, who brought you out of Egypt and
redeemed you from the land of slavery.
Talking about Moses, how he freed the
Israelites from the oppression in Egypt.
That prophet or dreamer tried to turn
you from the way the Lord your God
commanded you to follow. You must purge
the evil from among you. And now it
continues and this very interesting, if
your very own brother or son or daughter
or the wife you love or your closest
friend secretly entices you saying, "Let
us go and worship other gods, gods that
neither you nor your ancestors have
known, gods of the peoples around you,
whether near or far, from one end to the
land to the other." Do not yield to them
or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do
not spare them or shield them. You must
certainly put them to death. Your hand
must be first in putting them to death
and then the hands of all the people.
Stone them to death because they tried
to turn you away from the Lord your God,
you out of Egypt, out of the land of
slavery. Then all Israel will hear and
be afraid and no one among you will do
such an evil thing again. Okay, so now
when you read this and Jesus Christ says
that you should follow the law of Moses.
This is Deuteronomy, right? Jesus told
you to follow this. Do not break this.
And then Paul comes around and breaks
exactly this and tells you that Jesus
might be God, etc., etc., you name it,
right? So, shouldn't have the Israelites
put Paul to death then? This would be
the logical conclusion. But anyways, the
point of the story is that he points out
that in Islam you have wars against
polytheists and whatnot. Sure, that is
true. You should fight those that are
fighting against God. Absolutely. But
you're going to tell me that you cannot
find the exact same thing and even much
more graphic and much more brutal within
your own Bible. What are you talking
about, man? You had this doctrine
already. Satan didn't come 600 years
later and corrupted everything. As you
can see, you already have it there.
>> One of the things that it says
is John gets this vision
of all the martyred saints. Like that
all that means is just Christians. So,
all the Christians that were martyred
because uh they refused
>> Many of those martyrs didn't believe in
the Trinity, by the way. But please
continue.
>> used to not worship the lamb. They're
like, we're a lamb That's Jesus. We're
Jesus people. We're team Jesus.
And it doesn't just tell us they were
martyred, it tells us specifically how
they were martyred.
And it said
>> Yeah, this is something that we heard
about them roughly 100, 200, and some
instances even 300 to 400 years later
after the fact. Then you have those
martyrdom stories. The reality is we
have no historical evidence that anybody
really got martyred.
>> As he saw the souls of those who were
beheaded.
Now dude, again,
I always want to take this with a grain
of salt. Like I'm not a big like here's
all the charts and here's when Jesus
wrote all this stuff.
>> Yeah, but why do you talk then, man?
>> But dude, I do want to have my eyes open
with my Bible in front of me.
And it is interesting to me, man, that
that I am aware of,
there is one major world religion and
one only
that doesn't just specify to sometimes
kill people who have a different faith
in you.
It specifies how. And the Quran calls it
striking necks. It's beheading.
So, you got that. And then I'll do one
last one. It's hard to do from memory,
but I'll do my very best.
In
in Islamic eschat-
>> Again, let's go into the Bible because
those Bible thumpers, they don't
understand anything else. It really
doesn't matter if you show them the
Quran, if you show them historical
evidence, they really don't care. So,
let's go to your Bible again. 1 Samuel
31:9, "They cut off his head and
stripped off his armor, and they sent
messengers throughout the land of the
Philistines to proclaim the news in the
temple of the idols and among their
people." So, here you have the
Philistines cutting off heads in your
Bible. Prosecuting someone here and
cutting off his head. Philistines, not
Muslims. "The woman replied to Joab,
'All right, his head will be thrown over
the wall to you.' The woman went to all
the people with her wise counsel, and
they cut off the head of Sheba son of
Bichri and threw it to Joab. So, he blew
the ram's horn, and they dispersed from
the city, each to his own tent. Joab
returned to the king of Jerusalem."
Okay, again, I'm just using your Bible
here. I could go on and on and on and
on. The point of the story is that even
in your own Bible, you can get the idea
that back in the day, many people used
to cut heads. And yes, there's a verse
in the Quran as well about cutting the
heads. There's one verse. You have a
thousand. Anyways, guys, I'm going to
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