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It's very hard for a man to follow a woman to church. >> Just the idea of church and you coming to listen to the a pastor who is more times than not a man. So now there's this woman telling her man to come listen to this man and you're like, I don't need to listen to him. You need to listen to me. >> Yeah, we on boss talk oneonone. Yeah, we going to talk. We going to have fun. We be on fire. We be lit lit. It's a unique hustle, [ __ ] >> Check it check. This is a unique hustle. It's your boy ECO and I'm here with the lovely amazing official Miss Jamaica. What's going on, man? >> N all gone. I want y'all to stop what you're doing right now. Go like, subscribe, follow us from all social media platforms. When I mean all, I mean, all I mean are Facebook, Instagram, Tik Tok, Snapchat, you name it, we're on it. Just Google us Boss All Podcast 101. We'll pop up first in line. I guarantee you. But y'all always see us on the streets and talk about, "Man, I love what y'all doing. 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[laughter] Either reading the Q card or y'all just filmed it once and put that at the top of every video. She doing that off the top of the dome. One take, JAKE. AND IT'S THE SAME WORD AND she ain't stumble over nothing. >> Y see me in the street. Y'all say y'all want to be a part [laughter] of the show. Well, this is how you can do it. You subscribe. We on Facebook. We on Tik Tok. >> We everywhere, man. It's going. >> That was impressive. That was fantastic, >> man. Let's get all the way in your business. Let's get in your Kool-Aid [clears throat] and find out what flavor we looking for. >> That was old school. >> D. >> Let me get in your Kool-Aid and find out what flavor it is. [laughter] >> YEAH, LET'S GET IT. >> MISS JAMAICA. SO, YOU'RE born and raised in California? >> Yes, California. Born in San Francisco, raised in Sacramento. >> San Francisco. Sacramento. How far is San Francisco from Sacramento? >> About 90 miles. >> Oh, so not far. >> About Yeah. About an hour and a half. Hour and a half. >> Same as Port Arthur from Houston. >> Okay. >> Okay. Yeah. Same. Yeah. Same. [laughter] Same as Port Arthur from Houston. Cuz that I was going to say the same thing, you know, cuz I run these Texas streets. [laughter] So, it's about that same little distance. >> Yeah. Let's get to it. Did you move to Sacramento when you got older? >> No. No. So I moved to Sacramento when I was young, probably like 6 years old. >> Oh, so your mama and daddy moved to Sacramento. >> Yes. So what happened was my mom is the oldest of nine children. >> Wow. >> Um so and I got uncles. I got a lot of uncles who was involved in street activities >> and >> Amen. >> You know what I mean? [laughter] That just means so be it. >> That's just that's just how the life goes sometimes. But so so what happened was my mom had three children, >> two boys and my sister. >> You're the oldest. >> I'm in the middle. >> In the middle. >> That's why I'm the best. So JCole middle child. [laughter] So >> but my mom just didn't want to raise us in that environment. In that environment of what was happening in >> San Francisco at that time period. >> Man, there's a whole lot of pimping going on up there, man. Sacramento, Oakland, all that. >> Let me tell you something, man. It was a whole lot of them. You know what I'm talking about, man. It was a [laughter] lot going on, man. It was a lot of street action. >> Shout out to Louis. Louis belt. He popping it right now. >> Oh, man. [laughter] My OG's not my Louis. I love that slogan. I love it. >> Yes. But no, just like man, where where I was at in San Francisco, I was in the projects on Page Street. >> Okay. >> Um they call it Death Valley >> was where I was at. My mom didn't want to raise her kids in Death Valley. So, did you do you remember anything from before you moved? >> I'm only thing I remember and I don't know how I remember this, but some images stick out in your head. I just remember walking over a dead body. >> Wow. >> I remember we was trying to get out the gate and somebody was laid out in front of the gate and we had to walk like over like my mom walk around and then pick one of us up and walk through. I remember that when I was real young. And um >> that's probably the first time you've seen something like that. White is stuff. >> Yeah. Yeah. I I hope so. [laughter] I hope that was the first time. But but you know what the the the funny part is when when you don't have a lot of money, and I'm not going to talk to you like we were the poorest people in the world, but just when you don't have a lot of money, you're just going to move to a different ghetto in another city. >> You know what I'm saying? It's not like we going to, oh, we got to get out of here. we can go live in the suburbs over here. It's like, no, you you're gonna go to a new ghetto. >> See, that's what I was gonna ask you. I was gonna ask you because the dope game is everywhere. Street life is everywhere. So, you leaving from San Francisco to go over to Sacramento. Did you not run into the same situations? >> Well, you remember I'm young, too. I'm 6 years old, >> right? But but I but I think for my mother it was more Well, first off, Sacramento was cheaper than San Francisco. >> Oh, okay. You know, San Francisco is one of the most expensive cities in the world in in America for sure. Kind of always Yeah. San Francisco's always been very expensive. >> Um, so, okay, I can get more of my money out this way. >> Right. Right. >> And then I can get sort of a fresh start >> here. And then all of my other family started to migrate down to Sacramento. You know what I mean? So, that's how that happened. >> Okay. So, I hear you talk about your mom, but So, was your dad there as well? >> Yeah. Okay. >> My dad was there, man. You know, ish, listen. [laughter] >> I love my dad. Uh, my dad was great. So, they they they were >> together till when? >> No. So, I this Okay, I'm going to tell you I'm going to tell you another story. I'm going to tell you a story. And and you you start to understand these things differently the older you get. I remember now we are in Sacramento now. >> So, my dad's around when I'm young, you know what I mean? When I'm like a when I'm a baby and all that. So now we in Sacramento and I remember one day we came home and the house was in shambles like stuff thrown everywhere, couches flipped over and then I and then I didn't see my dad again till I was about 10 years old. >> Wow. >> So whatever situation they had, whatever that argument was, [ __ ] I'm out of here. Whatever it was was that >> it was over >> for years. So he didn't try to contact y'all. >> I mean I'm I'm this is this before cell phones. This is you know I mean you would have to go through your mom to see you have to come back to the house. >> So then >> when I when I when I when I remember seeing my dad again. >> So it was at a it was almost a homeless shelter but not really. >> So it was a church. South Sacramento Christian Center had this um like this program where they were just helping people get on their feet. >> So then my mom's like, "I want you to go to this thing." And like I said, I'm like 10 years old. And when you 10, you don't want to go anywhere that don't involve video games. Correct. Or basketball or football or something. I don't want to go to no church rel. It's not even Sunday. >> Mhm. >> So we go there. So, I'm sitting I remember I remember I'm in a van and I'm talking to this man in a van and he's he got a box of stuff and he's just showing me all this stuff. He was like, "Yeah, man. This is this." And then I served in the military so I had this right here. And then I'm like, "That's that's really cool, mister." Like, he keeps saying this and he was like, "Yeah, you know, I'm your daddy." I said, "My who?" [laughter] >> You know what I mean? So, >> you didn't even recognize him. >> No, cuz I was so small. You know what I mean? When you know what I So when he when he starts doing that and that and so then that's >> that's why your mom wanted you to go over there >> to go over there cuz cuz they had been in contact again and all that. So it's like okay you go and then they were married within the next 6 months of that six seven months of that they was married >> then my parents stayed married until I was >> probably like 25 years old something like that. >> That's that's a pretty good run. They had a good run. So since he left when you were like six, like when you were young, you didn't really did it affect you during that time between that time to 10 before >> I'm sure it did. You probably I'd probably have to talk to a professional to to figure out what all the effects were. You know, I I I'll say this. I've never been a person who like holds on to things >> like that. So, I'm I'm really understanding in a way of like when I'm looking back at it, I'm like, "Oh, nah, he just got into an argument with his girl." >> I'm looking at that's my mama. But now I understand like, >> right, cuz you're older now. >> That's you. You and your girl was y'all had issues, you know what I mean? And you was I got to get away from this woman >> or I got to get this man away from me, whatever. Whatever that was. So I I wasn't >> But looking at that now cuz a lot of people go through that situation, right? >> Mhm. >> But I hear people including females will say, "Yeah, we have disagreements or we can't deal with each other, but why should the kids be suffering from from you being absent now just because you're mad at me or I'm mad at you, you should still make efforts in being in your children's life." >> For sure. >> So what are your views on that? >> Well, I for their situation, I don't know the details. >> Right. Right. Right. But in general, >> generally speaking, >> in general, >> what I notice is people always say everything [clears throat] is about my kids. It's about my kids. But the decisions they make don't reflect >> that that's the most important thing. Or someone might be like, I'm willing to die about my kid, but are you willing to get along with the mob? >> Like that seems way easier than dying, >> you know? So, >> or not even get along with them because you can still have your disagreement, but you can be like, "Man, I love and I understand there are some >> manipulative women and men out there who will use kids as pawns >> for sure >> to whether try to reel you back in or try to get whatever they need from you." And is sometimes people feel like rather than I catch a case, let me just stay away >> and whenever the kids get old enough, they'll come to me. But I feel like who suffers in that case? >> Well, the kid always suffers. But you know when and when I say get along because I my belief is the the best thing you can do for your child is to respect their other the parent the mom or who on both sides the best thing you can do for that child is to respect each other as as as parents. >> So when I when I hear the disrespect or see the disrespect back and forth from the parents I don't care what you what logic you have behind this. You are doing a disservice to your child. >> Right? like period, you know, but it's not to say that the c the child can't be successful. It's not to say that the child can't >> grow up and have a good life, but >> and have male influences, positive male role models can still be in the children's life. >> That that all of that is possible, right? But if the best case scenario is y'all wouldn't made this decision to keep going raw, >> y'all y'all figure out how y'all can at least respect each other enough to give this child the best chance at some level of success or or or or not. Um the the world living in the world, we're going to deal with enough trauma. It's inevitable. This like man born of a woman, the days will be short and full of trouble. >> Exactly. So that's a promise from God. >> Exactly. >> You know what I mean? Your days is going to be short and full of trouble. >> I don't need you to add to it by >> because your pride or because your immaturity or because of your whatever won't allow you two to get along. Even though y'all made the decision without me, I didn't ask to be here. That this was y'all's choice. >> So now that I'm here, y'all going to act like now it's all about you? No. But once y'all made the decision to bring the child here, it's not all about you anymore. >> That's true. Uh uh you mentioned off camera that you had um >> I was lying. >> Anger issues growing up. [laughter] >> How old were you when you first started um acting out with anger? >> This this feel like her this feel like therapy now. >> Of course. >> You see how she said when you when you were dealing with anger. That's how Oprah used to give people. She'd ask the question and give them a little smile. I see what you're doing. [laughter] Uh I I just always remember being like a little bad kid. Like just I used to fight all the time. Like all of the time. >> That's and I see that's the reason why when I asked you if your dad not being there for those moments. Sometimes you don't realize that that could also be the reason why >> that's a possibility >> that happened. >> I would I wouldn't I wouldn't put that past. Like I said, you got to talk to a professional who who knows more about these things. >> I I wouldn't be like, "No, that's not why." I mean, maybe. I don't know. I just know I was socking on kids, right? >> You know. Uh, >> so your mama came to the school very often then? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We was at the school. I tell you, I I have never graduated >> high school. >> Any level. >> Huh? >> Any level. >> You always got kicked out >> or or they would just pass me on. Like I never had a sixth grade graduation. I never had a middle school graduation. I never had a high school graduation. >> What? Okay. So, were you the bully? Were you the one always starting the fights or did people just pick on you? >> I never started fights. Um, I just was okay with fights. >> Like, like look, like once again, I'm not I don't I don't want to portray like we were the poorest people in the world. I don't want to I don't want to do that. But, you know, I we didn't have I didn't have every parachute. I didn't have that growing up. I remember >> um Hakeim Elijah. >> Mhm. You Jamaican. >> Hakeim Elijahan has some signature shoes. He has some Spaldings. >> I remember those. >> You remember the Hakeim Elijah? Okay. Now, if you are a kid who don't have a lot of money, you like, "Oh, at least I can have >> not necessarily name brand shoes, but no Nikes, >> but a signature athlete sho. I'm going to get the Hakee Elijah ones." So, I came to school with my Hakeim Elijah. I'm dream shaking. I'm thinking like, >> I'm fresh. >> I'm fresh. And then they making fun of my hakee Elijah wants. So somebody had to get socked out for that. But is it and what what it is is you just you you you do it to the first person and you do you make a public display. We moved a lot. So every time I moved I said I'm going to have to fight again because when you go to a new place you're around new people. People think they could be funny. People do all this. So the first person who think they want to be cute. I'm gonna punch him out in front of everybody. And now now I could be cool. >> I could be funny now that you know that you know >> you can't play with me. >> That that's that that's how you kind of have to be or at least in my experience some people navigate those things. >> So you moved a lot cuz then if you did that a couple times then you should not be fighting no more because nobody should want to even mess with you no more if you stayed out of school. >> Yeah. But this is this is going to different schools all the time. You know what I mean? So it's like, okay, when you go to this neighborhood, you're going to have to fight. You're going to have to fight over here. You got to fight over here. You got to fight over here. You got to fight over here. And that's just kind of how >> Did your brother do the same thing, too? >> No. My brother I don't know if my brother ever had a fight. >> So it's just you. >> Yeah. It's just me. It's just me. That's what I'm saying. And and and that's >> You all went to the same schools? >> No. >> How old was he? How long? >> My brother is three years older than me. >> Okay. Okay. So, why wouldn't y'all be in the same school? >> Because my brother is a um like a scholar. >> Oh. >> My brother's a doctor. >> Oh. >> My brother um always had a 4.2 GPA. >> Okay. >> You know what I mean? My brother cared about academics. My brother was very um proactive about his education. Mhm. >> My brother graduated high school, left California, went to Morehouse, got his masters, left there, went to I forgot the name of the school in San Francisco, got his doctorate, left there, moved to DC, and started his his business, his practice. Now he just left there. He just moved to Indianapolis. Like my brother's now he wants to move abroad. And my brother's always been big on academics, big on that. I never was. So that that's why I say we'd have to talk to a professional because we were raised in the same house. >> I was whole but totally different. >> You know what I mean? I but he don't he didn't have those or if he did have those anger issues, they didn't come out the same way that mine did. >> He put it in his books. >> You see what I'm saying? And I I but I put it in >> in your fist. >> Yeah. My fist. Yeah. [laughter] >> Yeah. Definitely put it in my fist. But Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to think other things I did well, but nope. I was >> so sports, >> huh? >> Did you do sports? >> I play sports. I play basketball, box, football. Um >> cuz you would think you said box. You would think that if you joined like a boxing club, you would learn how to um deal with your anger issues. >> It's not about if it's not about an you. So this this is what it is because I never focused on this. This is what I learned when I went through anger management when I got connected to my church. Like I these are the things I learned, >> right? >> I never developed the work ethic early. >> Okay. So caused it. >> So I would I would do a lot of things from talent. I was really talented kid. I could do a lot. I could but I but I never worked >> at it. >> Mhm. >> So if you Okay. Now you now you in basketball and you are um you're doing well in basketball, but what do you got to do to play basketball at these levels? You got to have the grades. I never had the grades. So, I could play ball, but I had a grades. >> So, it's like, yeah, I would play in the summer league when when they didn't count the grades. [laughter] >> You know what I'm saying? But now that they counting the grades, you can't play no more. You got a 67 GPA. We >> But coaches, don't coaches, if they really care, like if you're really that good and they want you on the team, they'll try to get you like tutors or try to get you to, you know, >> I had a 67. >> You just didn't carry this. put your name under and that was it. >> That's it. You know what I mean? I had only grade I was passing was like probably PE. >> Like I'm I and this is no exaggeration. Like I'm talking about I remember one time I was in Mr. Steel's class, political science. >> Fast forward years later, Mr. Steel came to one of my comedy shows. I apologized to that man. I said, "Yo, I was in your class just causing hell. You was just coming to work." >> He remember you. >> Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He I mean, he was so happy. He was like, "Bro, I'm so proud of you." Cuz he had seen everything I was doing. I had to apologize to that man. I said, "Hey, Mr. Sir, >> you know what's crazy? When you got a teacher, you still call them by their teacher name. >> That man name is Richard or something." But I'm still calling him Mr. Steel. It's like grown grown man. You ain't Mr. Steel, you're Daniel. But [laughter] >> I'm still giving them respect of Mr. Steel. But I'm like, you know, you was just coming to coming to coming to work. and you got somebody at every time you come to work who's just going to make your job harder. And that was me. I had to apologize about that. But I remember I was in his class and uh one of the coaches, coach Hardwick, basketball coach, came in. He pulled me out of class. He had this long speech with me, 35 minutes, sitting outside the classroom. He's like, "Listen, you have a lot of talent. This is what you can do, and this is the path you're going down. What do you want?" And I was like, "Nah, you right." And I I didn't change nothing. But I said, "You're right." You know what I mean? I still kept the 67. But what I my point of that is the the teachers tried. >> The the the they the coaches tried. People tried. It just you you you have to make decisions for yourself. If your mind ain't made up on stuff, then people trying. And it's just people trying >> because you know when I hear people say that cuz coming from a mother's perspective and I and I know that there are mothers who are watching this show. >> Shout out to the mamas >> and having problems with their boys cuz you know they always say mamas can never raise their boys. Always it takes a man to really get him to do what he needs to do. But some moms don't have that choice. They got to do what they got to do to try to get him straight. And so this boy don't end up on the streets doing this, doing that. How can looking back on your life now yourself as a kid, what could your mom have done to get you to do better in school or to get you to, you know, um, so nothing >> because the things she could have done was impossible. Like >> my my dad is my dad is in and out cuz they're married, but they got they issues. He has his issues. My mom My mom has always been in the church since I was young. >> Okay. >> My mom came from the streets, cleaned herself up, stopped drinking, stop smoking, all that. Got heavy into the church and has been that way now since I was 7 years old, >> okay? >> 8 years old, whatever the case is. My dad would be in and out the church with my dad like to smoke. My dad like to drink. So, um, you know, they they would always >> bump heads. >> Bumpheads with that, right? Cuz she trying to do the church thing and he like, "All right." >> She probably trying to get him into it, trying to get >> and and he loved God, but he like, "I my my belief is it it is it it is really hard to um for a relationship to work. How I've seen it, this is just how I've seen it. How I've seen it, people. how I've seen it. The man has to lead these things spiritually. >> Exactly. >> It's very hard for a man to follow a woman to church. >> Just the idea of church and you coming to listen to the a pastor who is more times than not a man. So now there's this woman telling her man to come listen to this man and you're like, I don't need to listen to him. You need to listen to me. >> See what I'm saying? So now the woman is is struggling between do I listen to my pastor or my husband, my pastor, my boyfriend, my pastor or my man. And and that that whole tugof-war thing happens. But my mom always worked at least two jobs. >> Mhm. >> Two or three jobs. So it's like what you could have done, what she could have done was be way more present in terms of okay, get home. Okay, show me where's your homework. Okay, take it out. Okay, what' the teacher say? Okay, we got to get this done. Okay, I'mma I'm going to the school. But she didn't have time to do that. >> Tired. >> Tired. And literally I'm at work, >> right? >> You know what I mean? Like I don't have time to be at your school. I have to work, >> right? >> So, you know, like that's what I'm saying. Like what she could have done was be there. It's like it's like the Chris Rock joke when he's talking about uh how you could stop a man from cheating. It's like be there. >> You know what I mean? like everywhere he at you be there. But who who can do that, right? >> If he want cheat, he going cheat regardless. >> You know what I'm saying? It's like the the a person has to make up in their mind like >> if you're not there at all hardly is going to give him more motive to go. >> Yeah. But eventually that's relationship is just going to sever. >> Exactly. >> You know what I mean? This ain't a relationship that could sever. You know what I mean? It's like >> Well, actually my relationship with school did sever cuz I left in the 10th grade. But [laughter] >> and you were never one to say, "Okay, I'm going to go back and get my GED or anything like that." >> I I got all that stuff. It was Yeah. Cuz because I >> Okay, so I went through anger management. >> Okay. >> So because I'm going to give you the short version of this story. I am Oh. So um so I moved we moved again. This is after I think after my sophomore year. So the high school I was supposed to go to, I didn't have enough credits >> because I got 67. Like I I have credits as if I've never been in school and I've been there for 2 years, >> right? >> So they wanted me to go to a continuation school >> and I I didn't want to do a continuation school in a new neighborhood >> because I know the like these are like new gangbangers. Like I I'll do it in with the gangbangers. I know. I don't want to >> have to fight new gang bang. Like I don't want to do that again. >> So I ended up doing homeschooling. >> Okay. >> Now when you do homeschooling, really all you do is you go to a a a office, a building, whatever. They give you a stack of work. It's like it's thick like the Cheesecake Factory venue. It's like a they give you a a stick a thick stack of work >> and then you come back next week. >> Time to do the test. >> Give No, no, not even a test. You just turn in that work and they give you another stack of work and then you that's that's that's what homeschooling is. >> Okay. >> So obviously I'm not doing this work. Like there's no way I'm doing this work. I bring this thick stick this thick stack of work home and then I would just put it down and I would play video games or do whatever. >> Homeschooling was just not for you. >> But I'm also like my parents is working. Like I'm just now I'm just like free. Like I just have all day to just do stuff, >> right? >> I'm playing video games. I'm meeting girls. I'm I am living I I my life is amazing. My life is incredible. >> So then with the homeschooling thing, after a few months they were like, "Yo, this isn't working because you don't you're not you're not doing the work." So then they were like, "Yo, we have this program." >> Um not a program, it's like a test, like a standardized test. You take this test, you pass the test, and you're done with high school. >> Take the test, you're done with high school. >> I said, "That sounds easy enough." >> Sounds easy enough to me. What did I do day before the test? My friend spent the night. We stayed up all night playing video games. 4 in the morning. We on the sticks. >> We I mean, we NBA live. It might have been at the time. It wasn't even 2K yet. I think it was NBA Live. One of those two. We on the video games all night. >> Okay. >> Day of the test. >> Day of the test. I get to the test and I go to sleep. >> I'm in there like this. I'm out and then I wake up. They're like, "Okay, uh 10 minutes, 20 minutes left." So, I just start marking stuff. >> Don't tell me you passed. >> Oh, absolutely not. >> Okay. [laughter] >> Not even close. Not a chance. But they don't give you the test scores back for another like month. So, I'm telling my mom like, "Oh, the test is done. I'm done." So now I'm literally just I don't have anything that I have to do. I'm just >> chilling. >> Yeah. Then the test scores came back and I obviously failed. >> Uhhuh. >> So now they're like, yo, now you're just a truent student >> cuz I'm like maybe 15 or something like that and I'm just not in school and they just like, yo, what are you like you have to do something right now? They start to say stuff like your parents can get in trouble. All that kind of stuff. So that I there's this program called juveniles at risk. >> Mhm. >> So there's like yo you need to go here. You need to go to juveniles at risk and it is uh anger management attached to it. So this is when I went through anger management. >> Okay. it was here and now when I'm here this is one of the moments that changed life for me because anger management the main thing I learned from there was self-evaluation and you know you be mad and when you get mad you be like they made me mad what did they do and then self-evaluation made you say okay what did I do what could I have done different what and then that changes everything cuz now I'm applying this self evaluation to every aspect of my life. Every aspect of my life is like, okay, what am I doing here? Why is that happening? Why? Okay, how could I have avoided that situation? And >> do you think about that during the situation or after the situation or before the situ, but like >> well now now I know how to deescalate things and now I know how to be accountable for things. Now I know everything I'm [clears throat] doing before I do it and I say, you know, if if I'm going to do this, I know what can come with it. You know, that's that's the real thing when people talk about snitching. This this the snitching thing is about you are not taking accountability for the decisions you made. >> You chose to be in a life and then when the consequences of that life came to you, you tried to get out of the consequences. That that's that's all >> that a lot of stuff is. It's just about accountability. >> And I had to learn that through anger. >> How long How long did it take you to learn it? >> Probably probably two months. >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. I I mean, it didn't it it took me longer to apply all of it. But to really understand it, >> it was like two months of like, huh? Huh? Okay. And then I, you know, mean it took a long time to apply, like years and years to like learn how to apply it to all these situations and deescalate things and see something before it's about to happen and like understand like if like if you applied it to dating, right? like, man, she she went through my she but it's like but what what did you do that not not allow her to do that but even what what role did you play like what role did you play in this >> making her feel not comfortable why she feel like she had to go and do that? >> Well, I ain't going to say had to. [laughter] That's that's a stretch. I I don't want I don't want to go that far. You know what I'm saying? That's a lot. But, [laughter] you know, I'm I'm just saying in in general like like it it but because it could be that, >> right? >> But it but it also could be, you know, why is your why is your passcode so easy to figure out? >> You see what I'm saying? >> How why did you even make a passcode that would even allow her to get in your phone, >> right? >> Why is your face? Because then when you sleep, she gonna put the she put your face on the phone like that. She gonna get in your phone. It's your fault for having a face. You see what I'm saying? So, how long after that you got your GED? >> I was there for like maybe three months. >> Oh, okay. And >> three months. >> Okay. >> Four. Three or four months. I remember the day cuz it we had like a ceremony. This is the first time I ever had a ceremony cuz like sixth grade they kicked me out the thing. I couldn't have a ceremony. Junior high didn't have a ceremony. First time my mom ever got to see me like have like a graduation type ceremony. I was mad cuz it was the same day as the NBA draft. I want to watch the draft. I'm like, "Oh, woo." >> But, you know, it made her happy. So, >> wow. You know, >> you I want to tell you thank you first of all for coming on the show. >> Hey, man. I want to say >> I appreciate you um for even recognizing us. Um you know what sticks out about this show that made you even want to come rock out with us? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. Uh, listen. [laughter] I I said what I SAID. I AIN'T GOT TO SAY NOTHING. >> NO, that what it was. That's horrible. Not iced tea. Nobody else. Just [laughter] this dude. That's sad. You know what I'm saying? >> No, I mean it's really just seeing how how many real conversations you was having. >> Wow. >> And it's like, you know, you you watch you watch podcast and you watch shows and like you somebody who let people Whatever you want to talk about, we could talk about. >> That's Kdub said the same thing, didn't he? >> Oh, Kub said >> the exact same thing. >> Yeah, >> that's really crazy. Nobody else that you talk about you want to talk about? >> No, it ain't that. It is like some some places you go and they are trying to get you to say clickbait, gossip stuff. Some places are trying to throw names out there to to try to make you >> right. Don't Don't So So what you think about them too? Huh? Huh? [laughter] >> No. But No. Sometime people bring that energy to podcast too. >> They do. >> Cuz I have people that come up here for the smoke. >> Yeah. >> Oh yeah. I had a whole guy. Remember that guy came the guy who snitched on the guy and they got out of prison together and that was a crazy time for us. Yeah. >> And one snitched on the other and I let both of them come and one of them brought his lawyer. They was trying to show who snitched on who and you didn't and and I brought my lawyer which happened to be his auntie, wasn't it? And his aunt came and they was pretty much his auntie was his lawyer. And that's why he went to jail. You [laughter] can't have your auntie as your lawyer. Your auntie could she could do your hair. >> Your auntie could cook for you. Your auntie could could pray for you. She could your auntie your lawyer. And I'm not saying the aunties can't be lawyers, but your auntie can't be your lawyer. You got to separate your work and state at some point. We've had a lot of interviews where it was interesting conversations. We've had some dope people on here and I thank God for y'all, man. Shout out to Columbus Short who when we early first started it was like, man, we I just had to fly down here and come on Ball. >> It's like what? >> Yeah. >> It threw me off for people just coming like that. I'm serious. >> Listen, man. I said I got to fly here and I I landed came straight here and I'm flying out at 5 in the morning. >> That's hard man. Yeah. You're a hustler, though. That's all. You just like to go and kick it and do what you you just you just podcast hustling. I I don't do a bunch of podcast. You don't? WELL, WHY? SEE WHAT I MEAN? A bunch of podcast. >> Let's talk about you being a uh and y'all might already cover this. >> No. >> What? >> Uh a a a what do you call I don't know if he was joking. >> The minister. >> A minister. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Okay. Let's talk about that. I want to talk about you being a minister. >> Okay. And basically getting you can marry people. >> I I have married people. Yeah. >> What how did you end up getting into that? >> Okay. I think Yep. I'm going to give you the whole story. So this might be long-winded. >> That's fine. >> Okay. I started comedy in my church. >> That's the same thing my old boy said. >> Your boy. The one I just asked you about. >> Marcus. >> Yeah. >> Marcus. >> No. >> K. Dub. >> No. Alisa D. The guy. >> Oh, Marcus D. Wy Dy yeah that's how he did the same thing. >> So I started comedy in my church. You know, we we talked about the um the anger issues and all of that and and changing over stuff, but >> my me getting connected to my church also >> was a major part >> of this transformation of me understanding and me learning how to be accountable and me developing a work ethic and all of this stuff. So my mom my mom was over over the um the she would do the programs at the church for like church anniversaries and stuff like that. So I used to be at the house and I would imitate my pastor just joking with my mom and my sister at this time. My brother already off to college. Uh and you know black pastor they and the LORD SAID AH WHOA YOU GOING TO H like just real animated dog like a full black pastor. I used to do that at the house just joking. And then my mom said, "I'm going to have you do that at the church." And I said, "No, the [ __ ] you not >> really." [laughter] >> That's what I said in my head. That's what I said in my head. And uh so then look, we we the the service, the anniversary service. So whoever was um MCing the event, this I remember them reading it like this. And next we have brother Lance [laughter] cuz I like I wasn't like I wasn't like I wasn't like this loud talkative cl like I wasn't doing that. You know what I'm saying? Like I was chilling. >> So then when I came to the stage >> and I said y'all know how pastor get on Sunday, right? And I just start going into it and I'm doing it and I'm telling you to this day I've never had a reaction from a crowd like that. I'm talking about people were in the church running around laughing laughing. >> Like my pastor is on the literally on the floor with real tears coming out of his face. Like real tears like >> like I'm talking about PEOPLE ARE LIKE LIKE it [laughter] was it was it was >> How long did you do it for? >> Uh that was probably like five minutes, seven minutes, something like that. >> How long was that? Okay. It felt like an hour at the time, you know what I mean? >> The first time you did. >> Yeah. I did that and then I still wasn't thinking I was going to be a comedian. I just thought that was funny. >> Like that was funny. And then so then going forward, every time we had an event at the church, they was like, "Can you host it?" >> So [snorts] then I would host these events and then I would uh like joke about people in the church. So it'd be like like at that time some of my my my church is called Spirit and Truth the like but it so it's abbreviated is like STC. >> Mhm. >> And uh like I was and at this time we had a lot of like young married couples so everybody was having these babies and all of that. So I I remember I said something like welcome to uh uh STC sexually transmitted church or something like that. And cuz like everybody was pregnant, you know what I'm saying? [laughter] And uh I would just I would just I would just joke about people in the church. >> And all this was off the top of your head or were you writing down jokes? >> Um I wasn't writing them down yet. I I was I wasn't writing them down uh like in detail. Okay. Like I might notice something and be like, "Oh." But I but I didn't know I was going to be doing something like this would be like they like, "Yo, we got an event in two weeks. Can you host the church thing?" So I was doing that, but all of my jokes were about the church, people in our church. >> Then we go into New Year's and we have a New Year's celebration. And then my pastor called me. Actually, my pastor's son called me. He said, "Can you can you write I mean, can you do some comedy at the New Year's event? You know, churches on New Years, they always try to say, "You don't got to be out there in the streets. Come bring in the New Year's with the Lord." So I, it was one of them. You know what I mean? And you like cuz they like it's safer. It's safer to bring in new years in the church, >> right? >> You know what I mean? >> The fun [ __ ] out there, >> but bring it in with the Lord in here. So, [laughter] it it's cracking out there. You hear me? So, I that was the first time I wrote jokes. >> Okay. >> Like that were not about the church that I just wrote jokes like just regular jokes. >> Wow. And I did that and then then my pastor was like, "Yo, I want to do like a First Fridays event and I want you to host it." So now I'm hosting that. So I'm telling jokes. >> He seen the vision. He seen the vision. Not even see he's seen the vision. You know what I'm saying? That's why I I I give so much credit to God with my pastor AK Thrower, my church spirit and truth to what like all of this was birthed there. >> Wow. like to be able to take it professional because I started in 2010 2011 there is no Instagram there is no Tik Tok like you had to go to the people and do it so like now every a lot of people are comedians but they're like >> no I'm a comedian you didn't see my video >> you know what I'm saying like no that was me remember I kicked the old lady and that so I'm a comedian now right y'all it's like no you had to really go get on stage and you had to find where stages were and you didn't know comedians that weren't on TV. That's right. >> So, how you got to the first place other than your church, your first away show? >> I'mma answer that, but I'm finish this one first because we talking about the minister thing. >> Mhm. >> So, I that that was that was the um I'm I'm just giving you the birth of how ingrained I am in my church. >> Okay? how ingrained I am in my church. So, as I'm under this ministry and I'm like now I'm doing this comedy and I'm performing, I'm meeting all these people and I was like, yo, I feel like my reach is a lot wider than I ever imagined that it would be. My influence is bigger than I thought it would be. I need I need to know how to manage this. I was pe I was a person people was always calling for advice. I was a person like people who I was looking up to was asking me for answers. So I wanted to know uh what what answers to give. I didn't want to give you my answers. I wanted to give answers with some type of um real spiritual um soundness to them. >> So then I studied under my pastor. I did ministry training for two and a half years. every week we met and I had to do these assignments and I had to report back, study the word, fill out these things, we would talk. It was three of us. >> And um that that's how I got into the ministry was that now my first time doing comedy outside of my church, >> this how crazy this was. My church, the building we were in at the time, directly across the street from the punch line. >> Wow. directly across the street. I never knew what a comedy club was. I had never heard of a comedy club at this time. I'm probably like 24 years old. >> Okay. >> I I don't know what a comedy club is. >> Right. >> So, the girl I was with at the time, she was like, "Yo, I called the the the the punchline and they have an amateur night every first Wednesday of the month. You should go." And I said, "Yeah, I should." So then she was like, "Okay, I signed you up." [laughter] She seen the vision, too. So So I went I went to go watch it May 12th. I know this is my uncle's birthday. It's my brother's birthday. It's the first Wednesday of every month, but this Wednesday it was the second Cinco de Mayo. So they put it to May 12th. I go I go watch it. This is my first time watching comedy live and I'm watching and everybody was amazing. I know all of them now weren't amazing at all, but at the time to me >> cuz that was your first time watching comedy. >> I was like, how did he do that? Wow. I was like I'm talking about I was in awe. Like some of these good friends and all of that, but I was like, bro, this is incredible. Next month I'mma come back June 2nd. Now I'm coming back to do my joint. I get there. Doors open at 7. Show start at 8. I get there 6:52. Let's get it. >> Hey, I'm here for the for the for the show. She was like, "Okay, we just come back. Doors open at 7:00." "Okay, I come back at 7:00. I'm here." She said, "You got to talk to the manager." "Hey, hey, big dude, 6'4, black Samoan." I'm like, "What's up, man? I'm here for the show." And he was like, "Who are you?" And when he said that, I could see that this wasn't going to go good. [laughter] I could see the way he said like, "Who are you?" And I was like, "It's it's me. It's Lance Woods." >> But this is still comedy night. I mean, amateur night, right? >> This is amateur night. But what I didn't know is they don't have an amateur night. >> Oh, >> this is a showcase. >> Oh, >> yeah. It's way different than open mic amateur night, right? You can't just sign up and show that this is not that. But I've never been to kind I don't know that this is not that. >> Okay. Okay. >> So he said, "Yeah, I'm not." He was, "I'm not putting you on stage. I don't know you." I was like, "Oh." So then I just left and I walked. It was a sunny day, but when he said that, it start raining and [laughter] my world got rainy. I was like, "Oh, okay." Huh. So then I'm going downstairs and I remember the crazy thing. I was just I had been watching >> Kings of Comedy, but the the the DVD with the special features. >> Yeah. >> And on the special features, you know what I mean? I remember they were talking and DL Hugley was talking and he said, "Man, we used to have to fight just to get five minutes. We used to have to fight for 5 minutes." And I was like, "Oh, I got to go fight for 5 minutes." So, I go back upstairs to the door and this is 2011, 2010. Once again, there's no that like Facebook, no Instagram. Everybody I told that I was coming, that I was going to be here, I don't really have a way to tell them never mind. So, I'm like, I'm fighting with this dude for 45 minutes. Like, 45 minutes like begging this man to get on stage. And he would say stuff. He was who Avis, that's my guy now. But at that time he was he would say stuff like everybody think they funny until they bomb and then what and he walk off. I'm just sitting there like damn what do what happens after you bomb? I don't know [laughter] I don't know what happens next. So this is this this is this is what got me on stage. We standing by the bar. People keep walking in. Keep keep walking in. And people they keep walking in. They say, "Hey Lance, can't wait to see you tonight." "Hey, do your thing, dog. Hey, can't wait to see you. And I think he was like, "Yo, it's a lot of people here to see this dude. Who is this?" But it's just I've always been like pop. I always knew people, you know what I mean? So, it's like >> much less you had the whole church rolling. So, a lot of those people probably was from the church. >> Not one person from my church showed up. >> Really? >> Not one. No, because it was on a Wednesday night. It was Bible study. Bible study. >> Not one single person from my church was there. But I'm talking about people from my job. People just I just knew people. People just came out. It was like maybe 55 people came to see me. Like something like that. >> And um I remember I remember uh one of the workers there was like I ain't seen it this packed on a Wednesday in a minute. And then a was like it was more packed last month, [laughter] but I was there last month. No, it wasn't. >> So it's like it's probably like 7:55. Show starts at 8. And Abe says, "All right, you got five minutes. You up first." I said, "All right, cool." Now, mind you, this whole I am upset. Like, I'm angry. Remember, I I'm I'm still I'm still dealing with it. I'm still dealing with it. You know what I'm saying? So, it's like I I I want to like trip. >> I really want to trip. Um, I didn't tell anybody who I knew that this was going on because they would have tripped and I I didn't want I didn't want that kind of situation. >> So, he says, "You going up first?" I'm like, "Cool." >> Then at 8, shows getting started. He said, "Never mind, you going up third." >> I don't know nothing about going up first. I don't know that that's taking the bullet. I don't know that what a sweet spot is. I don't know. I don't know. I don't All I know is you said I'mma go up. I'mma go up whenever they call my name. And uh he he made me so angry that I couldn't be nervous. >> Wow. >> Like, you know what I mean? Like any any nerves I would have had was all gone cuz I was like, bro, he really like why is he talking to me like this, dog? I don't What is wrong with you? You know what I mean? Like I'm I'm in that mode. >> The comic that went up before me, he was on stage for eight minutes, maybe. Nobody smiled. Not a smile. >> Did that make you feel nervous after that point? >> No, it made me more angry cuz I said I had to fight for five minutes and he just got to go up there and do this [ __ ] [laughter] This So I'm begging and you putting that just on the stage. [sighs] So then I go on stage set goes great. >> I still remember all my all my early jokes. I still remember I always knew how to write a joke. Um I didn't know how to perform a joke well, but I knew how to write a joke. I I understood what a joke was. >> Who taught you? >> I just watched. >> Okay. >> I just watched people, you know what I mean? I I would just study. >> Okay. >> Study, study, study. You know what I mean? I I cuz I became such a a nerd of it, you know what I mean? >> Because you found something that you love. >> Found something I love outside of basketball. >> Mhm. or or sports in general, >> right? >> So, it's like, "Oh, I can just watch this all day." >> Oh, that Oh, that's what he's doing. Oh, she Okay, I see what she's doing. Ah, okay. Oh, he's talking about himself. Okay. So, then we talk about you, he can talk about you cuz he already talked about himself. So, you can't be offended if he says something about you cuz he's about him already. Got it. I'm watching all this stuff. I'm watching how Chris Rock is pacing back and forth and and then he when but when he when he tells the punch line though, he's he stops. Okay. What is What is he doing that for? >> It's hard. >> You know, all of that stuff. Okay. How's Bernie Mack? >> Huh? His voice, >> tone of voices. >> Okay. Yeah. I'm I'm paying attention to all of this stuff. And uh yeah, that's that was the first time. So my first time outside of my church was at the punch line which people be hearing that and be like what? Because usually you got to like work up to get into a comedy club first. A lot of people's first time be like at a little barn grill or like a little open mic. >> Yeah. Cuz that wasn't amateur night at all. >> Not even a little bit. >> So what did old boy come to you and say to you after you finished your set that night? >> The one who was said, "Oh, you only had five minutes. I was giving you such a hard time." >> Like he was like, "Man, good job." I'm tell we ended up being real cool. He's he's he's good in my book, but he just he ain't know me. >> You know what I mean? And >> well, I I think um some of the questions I always like to ask is when you seen those guys come out that you was talking about earlier on the internet and they was able to turn around do a video and they felt like they was comedians and they was pretty much getting traction when you guys pretty much was still having to go do standup. Mhm. >> And you got did you know how to monetize early on or did you even think about that or or were you one of those guys who was still doing it the way you knew how? >> Uh why you talking like that? Why you why you why you talking real low and sexy? What what kind of qu [laughter] >> Yeah. So was you one of those guys? >> I'm just going in. >> Who knew how to monetize or was you uh [laughter] >> did you >> uh No. I didn't know I didn't know how to do none of that stuff, man. And I was uh trying to figure it out like everybody else. >> But you seen guys doing great. >> I seen I seen guys doing but I didn't know they was monetized. I didn't know what those words even meant. >> Okay. >> You know what I mean? It was like >> What did you learn? >> Probably two days ago. [laughter] What's today? No, I mean I learned I learned eventually. It was um [sighs] this this is what I say about when I seen guys on the internet. When I when I seen guys online popping up, I I never >> Well, first off, I knew a lot of them. >> You did? >> Yeah. >> How? >> Cuz we was running around comedy scenes. See, a lot a lot of people >> don't know where people started from. They just discovered them on the internet. So, they feel like they just never did anything else. It's like, no, these people have been in clubs for years, >> but the internet is what popped them. what pushed him. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, but but when when when I when I seen it, I I was never focused on monetizing. I was focused on audience. >> Okay? >> Right? Cuz I I didn't I I did not know that people was making >> that type of money >> 20 grand a month on Facebook and 30 grand a month on YouTube. Like I I didn't know that, you know? I didn't know that that was even a real thing. >> You know what I mean? And then everything felt so like impossible. >> Like it felt impossible to to make videos with your phone that were this long and and you can cut them up and like I you know I I didn't know. But I I I I was always trying to make sure that I wasn't uh like like turning like turning my nose up to it like I'm I'm above it or that's beneath me, you know? Cuz that's how you get passed up is once you start to, you know, I mean, you OG, you know, I mean, imagine if people was like, "I ain't doing no podcast, man. I'm, you know what I mean? You you going to close off all kind of >> all kind of doors." >> All kind of doors. So, >> you know, I I was I was really like um I was doing internet stuff early, but trying to figure out like what the real play was with it. And I I think in a way I'm still trying to figure it out. No, I mean, you know, it's it's all kind of videos, all kind of stuff out there. It's all kind of people that's you got your internet guys, but they're not even like they were at first to me. Yeah. They kind of they not people used to it now. You got to find a different way to leverage. You know what I mean? You hear you hear different people names, they get the buzzing. You know how you see certain com comedians buzz at certain times. This guy, who is that guy with the light skin? It is it Mojo? >> Mojo Brooks. >> He's buzzing. >> Yeah, Mojo hot right now. >> But he wasn't two years ago. But I remember when he was doing it. >> Yeah. >> He wasn't buzzing. He's really like every time I talk to somebody now, they be saying this guy name like >> Yeah. Well, he's just going to a new level. I remember I remember when I met Mojo. Um we was in Chicago at a um it's one of them shows kind of like the we don't want show now. It be like 85 South and Tony Roberts and Michael Black and Mojo was just backstage like me. We were just both like just kind of backstage, you know what I mean? And we had like introduced each other, but it was like, "Yeah, man." And but then I next time I seen him, he was at the club and it was people. It was like packed. Okay. It's moving. Next time I see him, um, it's more people. Next time I see him, it's, you know what I mean? It's like he he keeps elevating and elevating and elevating and elevating which is what we all aspire to do is just keep growing our business, keep growing our you know in our career. >> You think he he was with uh he went on them weed them one that was I think he wasn't buzzing when he first went with him. >> I remember when he first went with him let me tell you >> and then as it progressed all of a sudden it hit. I'm telling you for for how people come to me about him right now. >> I'm telling you, when he was first doing the Wheel of Ones tour, he was going up before the host. >> Wow. >> Yeah. It's going up before the host. And it was like, nah, bro. You too funny to be going. People got to see you. >> Wow. >> No, no, no, no. We got to We got to put you a little later. People, you what you doing is not something that this many people should be missing. >> And he kept growing it and kept growing it. And like I went to the We the Ones tour. Um I mean I've been to I've performed on a few of them, but >> um the the last one I went to, he he is one one of the biggest stars there, you know what I mean? When he comes out, it's like, no, there's a large amount of people who bought tickets to see him. >> Wow. >> And you can see it. He bringing it. >> Yeah. He he ain't just a part of the show. He is a big reason for the show. >> Wow. >> Yeah. >> I like that. And and and so when you look at different comedians, you know, a lot of >> Jamie Fox. >> Mhm. >> One of the coldest for me. >> Yeah. >> I've been saying it for years, don't that's my thing up here. Plus, he 20 minutes away from here where his mama and him had the house there >> in Turo, Texas. Tur off of Brad show, >> but they named it Jamie Foxwood and he ain't been back since. >> I was down there that day. When he come down there, he waved at everybody [snorts] >> up top of the the the the Escalade. >> Oh yeah. >> And then he got back in and left. >> Last time I seen the [ __ ] >> he's showing love. >> You know what I'M SAYING? [laughter] >> JUST showing love. >> No, but he definitely And then drama boy. He them [ __ ] talked about Jamie. Boy, they were on Jamie head. I used to go down there cuz I met my wife down there. So I'm I'm from East Texas. I'm country. Yeah. >> So I go there to get my country. Yeah. >> Like it's right there. They like real. It's like Okay. I don't have to go all the way to East Texas to get my I can get my country right here in Turbo. So I go over there. I said man that [ __ ] James. Yeah I know [ __ ] that's Eric Bishop. I said yeah I said [laughter] that [ __ ] I said you'll NEVER COME BACK. NAH [ __ ] don't never come back man. I don't Then Drummer Boy is like man Drummer Boy was like he he like yeah I used play the drums. That [ __ ] know me man. I used to play the music down here and I don't even know what happened to that man. And then um uh he was talking they was all negative as hell about the Jamie Foxy from down there be a hear no more. Only on one regional and Gilbert was cool with him you know and then Gilbert >> yeah Gilbert. So them his partner partners you know but the other [ __ ] was hating like hell right >> that's how it be >> UNTIL THAT [ __ ] SHOWED UP. >> UNTIL he showed up though >> that [ __ ] showed UP [ __ ] going to fall out. So I was like damn they love him today. I've seen that. I've seen that too many times. >> Prophet is without honoring his own country till he come back cuz it was a things that I I used to see. They had put billboards up cuz they kind of I think they offended him a little bit cuz one time he came down and they they put a a big tractor up and put a smaller picture of him and this was long time ago and it was like your hometown. He's like I'm the biggest thing down you know ever come from down in which he is ain't no bigger you know. But to see him come from down there like that is just dope thing. How did you and him even How do you I seen you on the video with him? >> Oh, yeah. >> How do you even know this dude? >> So, >> Eric Bishop is a first is really You didn't know that? >> No, I knew. >> How you know? >> I I know a lot about >> You studied him, too? >> Yeah. >> Oh, you studying every day. Don't you study me, [ __ ] >> Tell [laughter] you right now, >> I I know I KNOW ABOUT YOUR HISTORY. >> I heard about it. I KNOW. I KNOW. I know. I know what this NO, NO, NO. DON'T DON'T STUDY THIS. GO on and [laughter] study Jamie. But but what how did you guys even link? >> Um okay, so it's I mean it's it's it's a story, but Tony Roberts >> Yeah. >> is probably my closest friend in the world at this point. It's my favorite comedian. A lot of people's favorite comedian. Um he's one of Jamie's favorite comedians. So I remember Tony like Tony will come to LA. He'll just stay at my house and we'll go run around and do all the shows and all that. So he got word that Tony was in town. He's like, "Oh, you got to come to the house." And he said, "Yo, me and Lance going to come." Oh yeah, for sure. Bring L. So we at the house. We just at Jamie house and we just kind of bouncing ideas and playing chess and kicking it and just type stuff you do at Jamie Fox house. We working out, you know what I mean? It's just we just had a good time. >> We just having a good time, man. And then, you know what I mean? Tank come through and >> they singing. He sang with everybody singing. saying with his head, you know what I mean? Just please don't >> it's all of that going on. We just we just kicking it in Seattle, right? >> You know what I'm saying? So then him and Tyron Turner, you know, Tyron >> Mhm. >> they start arguing about LeBron and Jordan and they they start like it's intense. WELL DONE. WELL, IF HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE MAN, THEN WHY DOES Wayne wear that to Carry Man if he's supposed to be the goat? Huh? Tell me that is is this going on for 20 minutes? [laughter] This 20 minutes. After about 18 minutes, Tony starts recording. And Tony starts like he's like, "Record." And that's when Tammy is like, "I don't care about your camera, Tony Robbert. [laughter] I don't give a [ __ ] I AIN'T SCARED OF YOUR CAMERA, TONY ROBBINS. Let the people know LeBron James." And that's the video that you're talking about. >> That's crazy. >> Is uh is is him and Ty. I'm just sitting there and you know and you know I I don't like to be in people's debate but I like to instigate. [laughter] I'm a big fan of instigating uh little debates and arguments. So then somebody be like no no I mean well he he did he DID MISS THE SHOT BUT HE >> YEAH. I mean I mean what I mean I mean he did have I mean he like they start doing that and >> but I don't know y'all had a good time. >> We had a great time. We had a great time. And then I seen I just seen Jamie at the Super Bowl. Um >> Okay. >> And um he was just like, "Whatever you need from me, let me know." Yeah. He's like, "Anything you need, bro, let me know. I got you." And every time I've text Jamie Fox since then, he has text me back whatever I need. >> Wow. That's a That's a cool thing, man. One thing about it to find somebody genuine enough to do what they say cuz most people they too busy or they they ain't got time for that. >> Yeah. >> You know, but he make time for it. You you you got to you got to you got to respect it. You know what I mean? >> You got to and me, I'm the type of [ __ ] won't text. [laughter] >> Oh yeah. No, [ __ ] Yeah, that's too much. >> He picks up the phone and calling [ __ ] No, we don't talk. I know you call. >> I'm talking to the [ __ ] He better not give me his number. I'm [laughter] ring ring. He ain't answering, baby. >> [laughter] >> I will call this [ __ ] four times. >> I'll be calling people too. >> I swear I'll be calling people too cuz I be driving a lot. I be moving around and sometimes it's easier for me just to pick up the phone and see I got to say and then you know what I mean? I'll be joking and stuff. Sometimes you text a like and they read it wrong. It's like that. >> That's why I don't like doing it. >> Yeah, that's not what I meant. I This is how I But you you misread the tone in the text. >> That's right. I don't have time for none of that. I'm not doing that with nobody. You not know how to text tone. >> Yeah. Yeah. Some people speak to it. I've seen that. >> They do that text. >> Well, that that be messing up the most. And you try to talk to the text and tell >> they say something else. >> Yeah. Yeah. Tell Hey. Yep. Yeah. Well, tell tell them Yeah. Tell them I want a brick. >> Hey, why you text me say you want some dick? [laughter] What's What's going on IN YOUR WORLD, DOG? EXACTLY. So it's it's like when you look at you I seen the lab where what do you like performing the most as far as what city? >> Yeah. No. What what venue? What what place? I seen you at the Lab Factor. I seen you at where do you like going the most? Would you you go to Funny Bone? You go to uh >> Yeah. So Okay. >> Atlanta Comedy Club. >> Atlanta Comedy Theater. I was just in Atlanta last week at the um City Winery with Finesse Mitchell for his birthday. Shout out to my guy, man. Yeah. >> Um, >> where do you like >> My favorite city to perform? >> That's tough. >> I love DC. DC is a great comedy city. Baltimore, great comedy city. And they buy a lot of merch out there. >> Wow. >> You go to Baltimore, you go to DC, you going to leave rich. >> They going to show you some love. >> They going to buy Baltimore. You got to remember they used to buy cra. So [laughter] Baltimore, DC, >> Baltimore, >> I love Texas, Houston, Dallas, Austin. >> Really? >> Of course he got to say that. He here. >> He here. >> Nah, man. But I'm telling you though, it's like >> cuz they're all different. You know what I mean? Like New York is like you going to get You don't know what is so diverse in New York. And >> which one is the hardest city for you to >> get them to laugh? I mean, the hardest cities are are sometimes cities that um just don't have a lot of diversity >> sometimes, right? So, sometimes if you go to like cuz I've done all of the shows, >> I've done the shows in Winuck, Nevada, >> you know what I mean? I've done the shows in in the little town in Idaho, you know what I mean? So, that that can be tough. Um, LA can be challenging for people because you might get a industry night where the whole crowd is like industry. So, they're not coming to laugh. They're coming to assess. >> Wow. >> So, they watching you like, hm. So, you out there working your heart out and they like, h, this guy's funny. Laugh. >> Exactly. Cuz some people can like it and not laugh. >> Yeah. And that's you. >> I know. I'm >> Oh, that's you. See, you're a terrible audience member. Don't laugh. Yeah, I'm laughing. I'm falling. I'm trying to laugh to make you go harder. That's what I'm saying. That that right there. >> He does that. >> That right there. But it's going to motivate you, right? >> That laugh is so fake. >> I don't care. He don't know. They don't even know me. >> They don't even know it's fake. You know what I'm saying? >> You can hear the fake laugh. >> No, you can't. Now, you don't know this [ __ ] fake laugh. You know me cuz you know me. >> But laughter is contagious. So if he got a fake laugh, it might make them laugh. >> That's right. know they laugh might be real. They might be laughing at his laugh, but it creates a a spirit of laughter in the room. But this right here, >> like that's it. [laughter] That's horrible. >> Yeah, that what you come out here for. >> And then you know, I'm going to tell you that person right there be the first person after the show. Man, you were hilarious. >> That's right. >> I don't believe you. I don't believe you. You're a liar. And I hate you. I really I don't like you at all. >> Crazy. I see it all the time. >> All the time. >> But everybody's sense of humor is different. People like different type of jokes and different things. And it's so funny because I like certain comedians. >> Like I'll go to a comedy show and um I love the comedy. I laughed all of that. And I'm like, "Okay, when he comes back in town, I'm going to go back to his show." >> Yeah. >> Go back to his show. And it's not the same type of cuz he's talking about something totally different. And I'm just like, >> so okay. So, >> and I'm I thought I was in love with his comedy till I realized that it's not every single show >> I'm going to feel that way about. >> And she might be on something different at that time, too. She ain't going to admit that, though. [clears throat] >> Okay, we get to Yeah, let's get to the bottom of this. Yeah, >> people change. They mood change the p the moment because you know what it is. Whoever this comedian is has proven to be a professional at making people laugh. You have not proven to be a professional laugher. [laughter] >> You ever thought about that? >> That's just hard. I like that. >> You know what I'm saying? Has anybody ever paid you to laugh? >> That's right. >> I probably laugh a lot more if they did. >> See what I'm saying? [laughter] He He getting paid to make people laugh. So, he has a vested interest in making sure he knows how to make people laugh. You got free tickets and an attitude. [laughter] >> You on the guest list. You like this ain't like it was the last. >> That's right. They know. They know us and they inviting us and you just sitting over there eating them wings. [laughter] Yeah. So, let me ask you this, man. Who do you when you when you trying to uh where do you go mentally when you trying to get to that place to write these joke? Do you have like uh what they call writer's block? Uh you could get writer's block. I think >> I think the easiest thing, not the easiest thing, but what I learned is I had to start living comedy versus trying to write it. So if I'm living it, it's like, oh, I I can write down everything that happens. I got to find something funny in it, something relatable in it, something that I can pick from, something that I can take and and spin a little like I just I write bullet points, >> okay, >> all day on my phone. All day. All day. Bullet anything. Anytime I observe something, I think something, I feel something, I write down just that. Like if I showed you if I showed you my phone and and the amount of bullet points like you know it's like >> oh damn everywhere. >> Yeah. It's like it's a lot and this is like all day. You know what I mean? So like right now I'm write down podcast host use his sexy voice in the beginning. [laughter] >> That'll be hard. That's hard. I love it. I love it. >> On a podcast somebody go out. So yeah, man. Tell me about um [laughter] >> Yeah, you you know, you just lay all the way back. You know what I'm talking about. But you know, did you ever think of like do you have you done a podcast before? >> You been been the host of one? >> I've done 11 podcasts. >> And you Damn, why you keep changing? >> I mean, because it's I I commend y'all because I know how much work it take to do a podcast. >> You did 11 >> probably. though between 7 and 11. Starting them, stopping them. I'm going to do this one. Okay, let's do that. I got a podcast I do now. >> What's your name up? >> That's a great question. [laughter] That's a hell of a question. What's the name of my podcast? Oh, that's crazy. See what I'm saying? >> That's wild. >> No, we got to cut this out. >> He just started. >> No, we did, but we just restarted. >> Okay. >> Is it called Good Game? >> Good game. >> That's a good name. >> That's a name. >> I think it's called Good Game. We just call it that. >> If it's not, it should be. >> I think it's called the Good Game Podcast. Yeah. It's me and Clint Coley talking about sports. >> That's hard. >> Yeah. And uh so look, >> that's hard. That hard. Do you watch my boy Bubba Dub? >> Yeah. My guy, man. >> My dog. >> Yeah. So I I tell you this, right? >> So I worked with the Sacramento Kings for years. >> Whoa. And um I was doing like reaction videos and things online and that's how they found me. And I started this in like 2018. >> Okay. >> And I when you asked me about monetizing, I didn't know that what I was doing was something that was incredible. I didn't know I I don't know anybody who went from their phone to their hometown team at the time. >> Wow. >> You know I mean I grew up here. I went to high school right there when I the first time I was on TV doing sports stuff for the Sacramento Kings. I was getting calls like, "Yo, do they know who they got on their TV? Do they do they know what's happening?" You know what I'm saying? I went to Valley High School and now I'm sitting here with with Jerry Reynolds and Jim Kosmore and we talking sports and I'm doing the media day for the team and they and I'm I'm loose. They letting me talk. They're not giving me a script. They just saying, "Go ahead. >> You know what not to say. >> Your gift will make room for you." >> Amen. You know what I'm saying? So, I I didn't know how to, man. They the the team that came to me, this is probably this is probably 2019. It's 2019. The team came to me with a with a with a budget, some money, and um I didn't know how to create the show for them. They wanted the show. I didn't know how to do it. I didn't know how I didn't I didn't plan out what was the next step once I get I was just doing something fun and then that turned into this. That'll never happen again. [laughter] Never happen again. Next time somebody come to me or now they won't have to come to me, I'm going to bring it to them. You already got this done. Let's let's get some done. I was I had a meeting with ESPN. >> Wow. >> Um I was going to I was going to All-Star weekend in 2020. um um to I was going they I they had a media pass for me. Now, this is what they told me, too. We don't know what you going to do, but just go just go out there and you can figure it out, but you'll have media credentials, so you'll be able to get everywhere. You'll be able to get where you got to go, >> but just shoot shoot content. Let's let's see let's see what you come up with. This was 2020. January 6, 2020, Allstar weekend changed. Kobe died. >> Yeah. >> Kobe died. The All-Star game was now ain't nothing funny no more. >> There ain't nothing to laugh at no more. The Allstar game. The whole thing was dedicated to Kobe as it should have been. >> Right >> now. Also, it's it's um >> like Valentine's Day weekend. So, it's like February 13, 14th, whenever Allstar is. CO is is becoming more of a thing too. >> Right after Kobe died. >> Right after Co. So Kobe died and they saying it's it's AIDS in the air. Yeah. You don't we don't need you [snorts] to come here. We don't need you to come here. And then for the next two years Allstar game, it was just everything was changing and they was doing different things and all of that. So I never revisited it. But it was like just you ask me about bubba dub and because of the sports connection I always think of that like yo I was doing these things >> and did not know exactly >> which is >> what I was supposed to or how to like bring it all together. But then you also ask about monetization. I didn't fully know how to bring all of that together. You know what I'm saying? >> And and that's the thing. And and it it it got more prevalent after Bubba Dub started his run too. >> Yeah. >> Um I remember us sitting here talking about it and it was we had some hell of interviews and it's just like damn like once you know the game >> Yeah. >> It's like damn why I didn't start back then. >> Yeah. >> Cuz I started that back then doing my thing like like trying to figure out how to stay in these people face and talk sports. >> Yeah. >> I didn't need nobody. I can go talk to ESPN but I had my own thing going. That's the way Bubba Dub is doing today. He still just and the same thing you more likely still, you know, doing as well. I think that's the >> I love that >> independent wave. The way you could do it on your own and you can still go and, you know, partner up with them as well. I think that's Yeah. >> Which, you know, everything is becoming a little more direct to consumer, right? To where you can I just need an audience, which is full circle. This is what I learned when you asked me about my first time at the comedy club. >> Yeah. Yeah, >> it's like, oh, I didn't know that I just had 56 people come see me on a Wednesday night and that means I didn't know what a guest list was. So, that means 50 something people bought tickets and got hit with a two drink minimum. >> That's right. >> I didn't know I just made the club, but Oh, y'all had a good night. >> A little grip. >> Yeah, had a good night tonight. >> No, but that and that's something you learn. But here here's here's the deal. Um, when it come down to comedians, who when you I know Tony Robbins, but who's your top three? I gotta do that before we get off here. >> You gotta do that. >> You said Yeah. You already >> top three comedians of all time that are >> I already know who you gonna say the first one is. >> All right. Okay. Can I can I answer this? It's going is You're not going to like my answer. >> I don't give a damn what you say. >> Okay. And and I'm saying I'm saying you're not going to like it, but you might like it. >> Yeah. >> Um cuz three is a tough number. Let's start there. >> Well, you're not gonna say more than three. >> I got I I >> I only want three. >> Oh, you only want three. That's all I want. >> Okay. So, this the thing. I'mma tell you the top three comedians that really helped my career. >> Well, that's how you want to do it. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yeah. That's that's what I want to talk. I want to talk about three. I don't give a damn how you do it, bro. >> So, we going Yes. Give me your three. >> Listen. Tony Roberts. >> Okay. >> But I mean, I tell you this before I met Tony Roberts, he's my favorite comedian. >> Okay. But you still you kissed up to him when you met him? Come on. >> Hey, okay. Let's let's let's relax. >> [laughter] >> I remember first time I met Look look I'm talking to Tony and look this is the crazy advice I ever got in my life. I'm I'm excited to be like hanging out with him. I got question. I'm like hey bro what should I do with that? What should I do with this? Hey what do you think I should do about this? He said I'm going to tell you the first thing you should do. Stop asking me all these goddamn questions. >> That sound like something I would say. >> Yeah [laughter] that [ __ ] right there. >> That sound like me? >> YES. >> I do this to her right now. >> I'm going to tell you the first thing to do. Stop asking all these goddamn questions. Let's start there. >> Yeah, there it is. Uh, so Tony Roberts, >> Daniel Dugar, he's uh never heard of him. >> Daniel Dugar. >> Daniel Dugar. He's >> white boy. >> He's black guy. He's from the Bay Area. >> Daniel Dugar. Look that boy up. Let me see how he look. >> Yeah. Um, this the first person who ever took me on the road. This is the first person who ever um took me out of the country. Um he he gave me like he he would say stuff. He was like, "Yo, you got to go to grow." He said that to me earlier. You have to get out of here to grow. You can't you can't develop what you going to develop in this spot. >> Um >> you found those last season, >> white boy, >> Indian looking guy. >> We used to do these things. No, he black dude. >> Um we used to do these things. >> Dar d u g a r >> a r. That's what I did. Um Yeah, >> we used to do these things called triple runs. It's a comedian named uh comedian turned. >> Oh, there he is. >> Let me see him. Let me check him out. >> This guy. >> Yeah, that's him. >> Daniel Dale Guard. There he is. Looking >> Dar. Yeah, there he is. Mr. Dunar. >> Yeah, >> you can he took me on the road for the first time. We used to do these things called triple runs. There's a guy named Dave Triple and he have these shows set up all across the West Coast and we would just get in the car and drive. So you might be gone for two weeks, but you go to do a show in Montana, then you going to do a show in Idaho, then you going to do a show in Oregon, then you go do a show in Washington State, then you're going to do a show in one of and you would do all of that and you might come home with $1,500. >> Well, I mean the experience, man. God don't make no mistakes, brother. >> You know what I'm saying? And that and that was how I developed working in front of any crowd >> cuz you start to learn like oh no no no no no people in this part of the world are different. It's not just race. It's like no that state thinks different than this state. That city thinks different than this city. No, that's a red state for real. They don't they don't agree with what you're saying. >> So uh >> that was that the third one or second? >> That was the second one. >> What was your number three? Number three. So, it's either BT Kingsley. >> Pick one. >> I don't [snorts] I don't like how y'all talking to me. I'll [laughter] be honest with y'all. I didn't know that. That's what boss talk meant. I ain't know you mean y'all be bossing people around in here. >> Y'all pick one because we only getting one. Huh? >> Yeah. It's only three total. B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B BT K K K K K K K K K K K K K K K K K K K K Kingsley um taught me how to promote shows, put shows together, how to go in a city and go into the barber shops and the hair salons and to everywhere and and get people to to to come to your show, how to put your own show together. You know, you could do this show and they'll pay you $200 or you can put your own show together and you'll make five grand. >> Mhm. >> Potentially. You might lose money, but you got the potential to make this right here. >> He showed you that. >> He showed me that. But then Nate Jackson, >> I said we said what we said, bro. >> But then Nate Jackson, >> you breaking rules and stuff. >> Listen, rules are made to be broken. >> No, >> come on, man. We both been to jail. We know how. >> I've never been to jail where you went to jail, though. That's the difference. >> I don't I don't know what that even meant, but it was intimidating. It was intimidating. >> I ain't never been to jail where you went to jail. >> Never. You're like, "What? What do I say after [laughter] that?" Right. >> But I got to say, cuz Nate Jackson showed me how to edit videos. >> Nate Jackson. [clears throat] >> And that's important. >> It's very important. >> Where you from? >> She from Tacoma, Washington. >> Okay. Okay. >> Yeah. >> I think I think that's I think you you got to understand, man. Everybody's put in your life for a reason, right? >> Yeah. And and the one thing you you you've expressed who you are as a as a comedian that came up and and and all y'all grind so hard, you know, like I work your butt off. Yeah. >> I think that's dope, man, that you you stuck with it this long, you know, and it must be you it have to be your passion >> cuz you wouldn't have you you wouldn't have done it. You wouldn't when did somebody ever steal your joke? >> Yeah, for sure. >> When you knew it, did you talk to them about it? Cuz I've I've been in the mix of some people who talked like, you know, that's So, >> SCRUNCHO, SHOUT out to him. He said it's like stealing his baby, [laughter] right? IT'S LIKE TAKING A SHOT. LIKE, WHAT? >> I am going to tell you something, homie. That joke YOU JUST AIN'T PLAYING WITH HIM EITHER. >> YEAH. NUNCH. YEAH, that's my guy, man. Uh [sighs] >> I I've had I used to put a lot of jokes on Facebook. I used to like write them out and then I I remember I would watch people do my Facebook post on stage. Like I would watch it. I was like, "Oh, I posted that earlier. Okay, that huh interesting. You know, I I so I have a whole series of videos. Look, cuz this people have all these different ways of stealing jokes and I'm a believer that people don't always steal jokes. I do believe that there is parallel thinking, but I also believe that >> people don't always know how to make the point come together. So what happens to me a lot what has happened a lot is people will come up to me after be like yo that joke you do about that man I got a joke something like that but I I know what they're saying a lot of times is I had a thought like that but I heard you execute the joke >> so when you see me do the joke I don't want you to think that >> I'm stealing your job >> but you did not know how to execute it. You see what I'm saying? So it's like you you didn't know how to >> They're stealing your execution. >> They stealing execution. It's like there's there's so much stuff. >> People came to you and said you took their joke. >> Nah. >> Never. >> Somebody come to me and said I took >> I remember Gary Owen was telling me that Nick Can started off just doing everybody joke. He didn't realize you couldn't do that. >> That's hilarious. [laughter] >> He just going up doing that. >> But that's a real thing. But you don't know things until you learn them. Like I didn't I didn't know you could tell the same joke twice. >> So my first year in comedy, I never repeated a joke. >> Wow. >> I was like, "No, I can't do that joke." I said that joke at that hole in the wall spot 6 months ago. I can't do that again. >> Ruin pain. >> Yeah. They says like, "What? How are you supposed to get the joke good if you don't keep doing it?" I said, "You can keep doing the same joke." It's like, you better >> just not in the same place. >> Even in the same place, you got to develop it. It's like you learn like there is no I've never seen a comedian get good at standup other than being on stage all the time. I've never seen a joke get good other than keep developing it and adding to it and listening to it. Okay, let me take that up. I probably need to add that. Okay, what if I Okay, imagine that. Okay, what if I compare that and that? But you don't you don't do that in the writing process. You do that in the performing process. You got to perform it and and hear it. And then you might do the joke and then somebody might say, "Oh, dog, that's funny. You should try saying this with it." Oh, thank you. So then you got that tag from that person and then you added that to that and then that person and then by the time you see it now it's this like refined amazing joke. But man, a lot of times the jokes that we love, >> that joke is seven years old. >> It took seven years to get it. It took six years to get that joke to that point. >> It took a lot of like refining, taking this out, moving this around. I have a whole I had a whole um series that I was doing like a videos. I got it was one with me and Godfrey. >> Another one is me and Finesse Mitchell. Another one is me and Darren Fleet. Another one is me and Von D Carlo. And it's just me coming up to comics after they show and being like, "Yo, I love your set. That joke that you got about babies and the roller coaster, I got a joke just like that." And it's like a parody cuz that's how people will come up to you. Like they'll really come up to you after your set and tell you they got a joke just like this. Even if you've seen them for years and have never seen a joke in that you've never seen I've never seen you tell a joke like that. Never in my life. >> Have you ever What do you think about Jamie Standup? Have you and him ever discussed standup? >> I just I just wanted to go see Jamie stand up a few months ago. We talked about it. I I I had some notes for him. He was like thankful and he was like, "Yeah, man. Let's J look." I was talking to Jamie and he was like, "Um, >> what was that?" >> That it sound like >> a car backfired or something. >> That's what that was. >> Yeah. We from the hood. >> I know it. >> This [ __ ] This [ __ ] don't shake us. Let's go. >> I'm not saying shake, but I Something happened. Something happened out there. You heard it, right? >> Mhm. Okay. All right. Just >> You got insurance on the truck. >> Yo, if something happened, I'm at boss talk 101. [laughter] >> Yeah, they all in here. >> So, uh, >> he was talking, you know, you you seen his last special. >> Mhm. >> I cried. I loved it. He cried. >> I cried. And I I just love to see him back out there because I was rooting so hard for him when he was sick. And I did some man I did some heck of a reviews just talking about I want them dudes, man. Just about showing love. Like when you when you love somebody and you see him, you know, go through that, no matter what it was or what it is, you I'm rooting for him because I'm a Texas [ __ ] to my heart, [ __ ] To the core. >> Anything that's out of Texas is first with me. And everybody know that. They be like, This did it just bust again. >> Them was fireworks. >> Boy, it's busting out there. >> Them fireworks. >> If they get closer, you jump in the front and I'm going to try to throw the table. Lance, you get down and I'm going to try to survive and I'm going to back down. >> Somebody got to tell the story. >> Me and you. You keep running when I start doing all of that. >> Yeah. Somebody got to tell the story for people people at home listening. There's some violence going on right outside [laughter] OF THIS. >> SHOUT OUT TO BOS 101. KEEP IT GRIMY. >> PEOPLE get shot every day. B, you all right? You tough, right? [laughter] But uh I'm talking to Jamie about um that special. >> Yeah. >> And you know, he was like, "No, that that special was there was a reason for that. That was I had to tell that story. >> I had to explain to people what that happened to me. I couldn't just come back out just joking because like I went through a traumatic thing that people, you know, wanted to know about. He was like this next special >> and he was talking to me so I know what he meant. He was like, "This next special is like y'all going. This is for y'all to laugh." Like he was like >> heavy. >> Yeah. >> Ain't no better when it come and he told me he was telling me stories and he was like, "But I can't say that on stage." >> You know that. >> And I was like, "You have to say that on stage." It was it was I mean, and it's his stories to tell, but he told me two of the funniest stories in the world. But there, you know, there's like names attached to the stories. So he like, "Ah, I can't do that." And I'm like, "You got to cuz a lot of people's favorite standup special from Jamie is I might need security." At at the core, Jamie is one of the most amazing storytellers the world has ever seen. We want to hear the stories. >> I might security had the names attached to the stories. when he talking about the JLo thing, when he talking about Aluccino, when he talking about LL, it's like we we can picture it because he can do voices and he he's so good at it. So these other stories he tell me, I'm like, nah, I just do it. >> But he don't I don't have to deal with the consequences. So [laughter] >> just say that [ __ ] dog. >> Because a lot of comedians feel like because everybody knows comedy, it shouldn't be no hard feelings when they tell it because it's just jokes. Well, Tony Hinchcliffe went a little too far. >> You think so? >> I know. So, >> okay. >> What is your opinion on it? >> I just think that >> certain things you you don't need to be doing. I'm from the old school, though, so it's going to be different for me than it is for a younger person. >> Yeah. Yeah. I >> I get I get why younger people are okay with certain things I'm not cuz I'm from the old school. Yeah. And I mean, I understand what it is to be caught up in a maze where people treat you different. A lot different. >> Yeah. >> So, I ain't going out like that no more. >> I get it. >> And I'm willing to go out. >> You You will Yeah. You You You willing to >> You willing to do whatever you You don't care how this goes for what you believe in. >> No, you don't have to play with that. And and I just feel like um I going to say it. You guys don't do roast for real. Ain't nobody doing no real roast because you got certain people that Kanye and a couple of more people talk about that ain't nobody going to say nothing about these people. Okay. >> Don't quit trying to play like you roasting like that, [ __ ] Cuz you not. >> You not even built like that. Don't make me go there. You know what I'm saying? You you ain't built like that. Cuz when Kanye did it, when Nick Cannon did it, y'all, you know, you ain't going to say this stuff. You're playing with my people. >> For sure. >> Oh, I just took it there. No, you did. It's too late. But no, but that's how you feel. And you should express how you feel. And And you know what? What it is for me when I'm when I'm watching it, I'm saying, okay, let's start here. I don't think roast or I don't think comedy really is for the masses. I think >> I like that. >> So, there there's a there's a there's a thing that happens between the art and the business. If if you tell whatever whatever joke, I don't care what the joke is, whatever it is, in a room of 200 people who agreed to be at a comedy show, nobody's offended. When you do that same thing and broadcast it to 150 million people, now it's now we're having a different conversation. >> Wow, that makes sense. >> So, so, so the people who were like, "It's comedy." Yes. But now it's comedy in front of a 100 million people. You see what I'm saying? It's like if you and your wife started kissing, you like, "No, this is my wife." Yes, that's your wife. go do that there. You don't do that. You don't you don't you you not going to just start being intimate with your wife with 7,000 people watching unless unless that's what your only fans is. >> You know what I'm saying? >> They did it. >> So, you see what I'm saying? So, it's like, no, I I I understand the culture of roast. I understand the culture of comedy. I get it. And if you guys would have done this in a little room and that then it's not a big deal. But this is on Netflix. >> Correct. You know what I'm saying? I think it's I think it's uh the climate we in too. A lot of people just don't take the things like it. Times change. So I things are sensitive now because even now when certain comics go on stage at improv or you know whatever and as much as some they say oh you shouldn't have your phone out or whatever but sometimes when >> they say something that's offensive in a sort certain sort of way whether against the LGBTQ or whatever that somebody take up and they'll film it. I've seen where Eddie Griffin said something at a show and all of a sudden it's blasted all over social media because they did not agree with what he said. >> So, and they took it and run with it. >> Yeah. >> So, although it's in a small area, it we're in an era of social media. Everything gets blown up >> once it once it gets broadcasted to people now now it's different. >> People are sensitive with certain things. If I if I go buy a ticket to see something, then to to a degree I'm agreeing to whatever happens here to a degree. >> Mhm. >> Now, if it's on Netflix or whatever, I didn't agree to a lot of people who were who were um who were who were angry about Tony Hinchcliff's things, they didn't even watch the roast. It would just it just got blasted out so much that they seen it. So they they didn't even sign up to see this. They just on their Instagram and they watching you talk about George Floyd. They're like, "Yo, get him out of here. I don't need context. Get the I don't that there there is no explanation for how this is okay." So, you know, I I I understand it in that way. >> Well, you understand however you want to understand it. Boy, ain't no way nobody supposed to be talking about nobody uh standing on somebody neck and acting like just it's it's cool to do. It's cool to do that, especially from another race who had never endured those things. >> So, let me ask you this. >> So, I'm just going to say this. Uh >> man, got a daughter, family, >> you know what I'm saying? And and my homeboy, which which we're getting at, you know what I'm saying? You really don't never know who you dealing with. Like I look at these dudes, man, and they they act as if they untouchable, but you're not. >> That's the biggest you is going to shows and if a [ __ ] got a budget, you know what I'm saying? You know, you I'm a smart dude. >> A budget can get you in trouble, bro. >> And and and dudes don't know how to act. >> Yeah. >> You can take a dude that ain't never This dude in your neighborhood never left, >> but he love you. >> Mhm. >> He do anything for $2,000. >> No, he love you. >> Yeah. He'll do it for the just cuz he love you. >> Yeah. >> You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? So, I don't think it's a good thing to be putting yourself in these situations. >> It's definitely >> when you don't know who you playing with >> 100%. But this is the question. >> Let me say this. One of the dudes who just he did that. I just interviewed a dude who just got out >> who was love this man. Am I right? >> Grew up with him >> and go always into something. Love being into something. So you just don't know who you playing with. So you playing on this stage >> and it can be like dude, you don't even know who you playing with. >> And I think that's the bad part about it. Yeah. >> So that was a thing that hurt a lot of people. >> Yeah. >> And and and you don't know who you playing with. That's my biggest >> No, no. I think I think all of that is true. I think so. I think I think two things. I think one of the keys to a joke being funny is you feeling like they're joking. And people don't feel like he's joking. >> They feel like he's just racist. >> That's That's a good >> So it's like he did a George Floyd joke at the Tom Brady roast. You know what I'm saying? It's like no, this is this is >> that's what he do. >> Yes. that he is a habitual limestepper. Like he that's he >> really >> Yes. >> I thought that was his first time doing it. >> No. No. At the Tom Brady roast um he told Grank um Rob Gronowski, he said he looks like the last boss in the George Floyd video game. That was a joke he told at the time Tom Brady roast. Um I I I'm not exactly sure why. The outrage wasn't there that time, but I don't think it matters. Um, what I know is when I seen him there, I said, "Oh, well, I know what he going to do." >> Oh, you already knew. >> Yeah. It's not a secret. Like, it's like he's not I was not shocked at all. And I was at the roast. I was in the building. >> I'm telling you, in the building, it wasn't like shock >> because everybody knew what he does. >> Yeah. and and he kind of stumbled over it and people was kind of trying to be like, "Hold on, what?" Like, it wasn't like a thing where everybody was like, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute." It was a combination of things. That's why when Cheryl came up and Cheryl did what she did, that's why the room erupted. >> Oh, I I loved it. >> You know what I mean? Because it was like he said a um he said a joke about Kevin Hart and he was like um talking about him fighting on a plane. He was like, "Just proof that wherever black people go, they're always going to act like ninjas cuz they're fighting." Like, you know what I mean? So, he's like, >> so the joke was a white guy almost said the n word, you know what I'm saying? It's like, >> okay, you know what I mean? But I I know this comedy like I know kind of what you're doing. So, you know, I I don't I I don't get >> I definitely I don't get nothing away from cuz I don't I don't But at the end of the day, I just know that you got to be careful on who you play with. >> You got to >> cuz you never know. >> You got to but I tell you in this in this climate, you know, there's a group of people who feel empowered to say what they want to say and feel like they can do what they want to do. >> That's right. >> And they say exactly right. >> It starts at the top. >> Oh man. >> And it's not even just comedians. It's internet people period. >> You can take it off the internet and just say people >> how like they feel like no. >> Wow. >> The reason why I say internet more because they feel like you're not going to see me, >> right? >> I'm going to say whatever. But when you face to face with somebody, they're not always going to say >> at all >> whatever they need to say. >> Lance Woods is in the building, guys. Comedian is in the building today. He came down and showed us love. Man, how can people get a hold of you? [laughter] That's how people kick you out their house nicely. I [laughter] like that. He's like, "Yeah." Hey, man. Lanch is here. [clears throat] So, how can people get so I can go to bed? [laughter] >> Not really. I think you you done messed up. I was going to take y'all to eat, but you didn't messed that up. >> No, we can still eat what you >> n man. He tried to take my meal away. See how they do. >> Sir Lancewoods on everything. Sir Lancewoods. S I R Lance Woods. So, when when we when it's coming out, >> don't worry about that. That's not your business. >> No, I was going to tell cuz I was going to tell you some stuff that's coming out. >> Say you go ahead and say it. I'll let you know. Go ahead. I'm in control. >> All right, cool. So, so they bringing Comic View back. I'm on a new season of Comic View. Yes, I'm on a new season of Comic View that's coming out like BET weekend. They're going to start releasing it. >> That's >> um I just shot a I just shot a special for Hulu. Uh Kevin Hart's um production company, Heartbeat produced it. So, that'll be on Hulu soon. I just did Nate Jackson super funny comedy jam that'll be out soon. >> Um >> yeah, I'm working on some film stuff. Just stay stay in tune people. Sir Lance Woods getting >> comedy specials have become more and more like out there. >> Oh no, it's time for because before you had to wait for somebody to give you a special. Now if I got a camera I could just shoot it and then put it out. Shout out to Ali Sadik who killing the >> youth. Ali Sadik changed the game >> amongst other people. But Ali Sadik like changed everything. Ali started putting out other people specials. >> That's right. That's right. >> You don't got to go to them. Come to me. Put it on. Not bring it on. You going to get more views over here than you going to get over there. >> Hustle. >> Yeah. >> My guy. That's my guy. >> Texas Texas hustle. Like [laughter] Texas got a special hustle, man. >> That's for real. >> Soon as I got here, I was like, "What can I sell? Well, don't be selling something in Texas. You got to sell something [laughter] out here, >> man. Shout out to Lance, man. It's going down. Woods in the building. It's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101, where the bosses talk. >> And we out, man. >> Yeah, we on Boss Talk 101. Yeah, we going to talk. We going to have fun. We be on fire. We be lit. It's a unique hustle, [ __ ]