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The podcast segment details a high-stakes medical journey undertaken in Vienna to address severe, chronic health issues through an experimental combination of therapies known as hyperthermia hemoperfusion. The host describes undergoing a three-day intensive treatment involving forced fever induction at approximately 103°F (41°C), oxygenation via ozone therapy, and plasma filtration designed to remove inflammatory components and heavy metals from the blood. To facilitate this process without relying on standard venous access due to poor vein quality, medical staff inserted an intrajugular line initially and later a femoral line capable of filtering the entire body's blood volume fifteen times per cycle. The procedure also included stem cell extraction from the hip for reinfusion, UV light exposure, and cooling packs applied to sensitive areas like the groin to manage heat stress during the fever induction. The narrative explores the psychological and physical toll of this "adversity training," where the host confronts a loss of control over his own body while under general anesthesia. Despite having previously attempted numerous interventions—including red light saunas, peptides, Eboo therapy, and extensive IV driets—symptoms such as fatigue, brain fog, low mood, and forgetfulness persisted even after normalizing blood test results. This experience highlighted the gap between fixing numerical biomarkers and resolving the subjective reality of feeling unwell. The host admits to crying more in the last eighteen months than in his previous life combined, acknowledging that while he cultivates discipline and resilience, this specific ordeal pushed those limits significantly as he navigated a process with an uncertain endpoint. Logistical details reveal the extreme measures taken during the stay at the Vienna facility, including dietary adjustments like avoiding heavy foods such as wiener schnitzel before treatment in favor of local cuisine or boiled vegetables to support digestion under stress. The host humorously recounts bringing "nutsicles" (frozen testicle-shaped ice treats) and special cooling packs for his groin, a request that was surprisingly accepted by the medical team who were concerned about heat damage during the hyperthermia process. Interactions with staff and visitors underscored the intensity of the situation; one visitor noted seeing him looking like Marilyn Monroe exiting a taxi due to his frail state post-procedure, while others expressed shock at the severity of traveling abroad for such aggressive experimental medicine. Ultimately, the episode serves as both a personal roadmap for those struggling with complex illnesses involving autoimmune conditions or mold exposure and a testament to enduring hope amidst adversity. The host emphasizes that this multi-modal approach—combining heat, filtration, oxygenation, and stem cells—is intended to reset the body's internal environment by flushing out toxins like Epstein-Barr virus remnants from mitochondria. Although the immediate aftermath involved significant pain in the lower back, neck, hip, and groin due to positioning and invasive lines, the overarching goal remains redemption: returning to a state of health where he can feel himself again. The journey is framed not as a guaranteed cure but as an epic path requiring patience, gentleness with oneself, and unwavering confidence that recovery is possible despite the difficulty of being out of control for several days at a time.
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This is a part of the I guess secret
life I've been living behind the scenes
of the podcast which is trying to fix my
health. I've been to Mexico and had an
intrajugular line put in and lived in a
hospital for 4 days as it cleaned my
blood. I must have done 100 IVs. I've
been doing Eboo therapy and ozone. I've
been doing red light sauna and taking 50
tablets a day. I've used peptide all the
things. Maybe [music] you've seen it in
a previous vlog. So, I'm in Vienna to
get an experimental hypothermia
hemoperusion treatment. [music] I'm
going to be held in a forced fever at
about 103° F.
>> This is what makes sure that I'm still
alive.
>> It's hard to see your friend like that.
It was heavy. It was really heavy.
[music]
>> It's a 3-day experience. It's intense.
It needs the lyrics. Needs the [ __ ]
lyrics. It's just vowel sounds. Why do
you need the lyrics to just make vowels?
That Anyway, look at that. That's nice.
It's nice.
>> Get your body heated to 104°.
Look at some architecture.
>> I like to tell people that I've got a
whole bunch of like 20, 30, 40%
solutions for complex illness. And so
hyperothermia has been one of those
solutions. Probably 30% of the people
that I've sent for hyperothermia have
been shockingly helped.
Idea 2, oxygenation and ozone type of
modalities. And then we've been deeply
involved in different techniques that
filter basically the plasma. when you
filter out inflammatory components in
the blood and get the blood basically in
a healthier state often things begin to
reset. So then what happened is is
Vienna was an opportunity to do all
three of those in one.
I'm trying to eat legitimate local
cuisine, but the night before I go in
for 3 days of medical treatment, I
probably shouldn't be having my first
wiener schnitle, should I? Just don't
know how I'm going to respond. My
system's not that fragile. At least my
digestive system is not that fragile. I
can usually handle any food. Do I want
to roll the dice with some boiled ve? Is
that really what I want to do? I also
feel like a total scumbag if I got the
[ __ ] Hard Rock Cafe. All they're
eating is ice cream.
All they're eating is ice cream. Ice
cream. Ice cream. Coffee flavored ice
cream. Jesus Christ. All right. Hard
Rock Cafe. [ __ ] sake. [laughter]
This is the most extreme thing I've
done. It's the heaviest thing I've done.
It's kind of weird because a year and a
half ago when I started trying to
reverse engineer why I was so tired and
brain foggy and low mood all the time,
there was a ton of stuff that came back
on blood tests that needed to be crossed
off. So, I crossed them all off. One
thing every month for nine months last
year. And when you've got rid of them
and you still don't feel any good, you
start to in some ways it's satisfying
because you fixed all the problems, but
you haven't fixed the problem. You've
just got rid of the numbers. The problem
is I felt tired and sad and forgetful
and that's still there.
Okay, what do I need to do? What do I
need to do? So, you start pushing the
limit more and more to find solutions
that are going to fix this problem.
So, we'll see. Complex illness,
autoimmune, mold, lime
stuff is a [ __ ] bastard to try and
get rid of. But it's been a big part of
my life. And maybe
tracking some of this will help other
people to see what I did that did and
didn't work. And also
provide a road map of oh well someone
else is kind of having their ass kicked
by this stuff and he's kept going so
maybe I should as well.
>> That was so weird. a single. Look at
your hair. [laughter]
[laughter]
>> I've known Chris for 8 years and
counting. In Austria, I was filming bits
of content for the vlog. And secondly,
probably the most important part of it
though was looking after Chris, making
sure he was okay. So, it was [music]
like, right, just look after my friend,
make sure he's okay, make sure he's got
water, make sure he's got food, [music]
make sure he's alive. Isn't
it funny that Austrian sounds a lot like
Jordi?
So the guy at the front desk goal.
It's like it's not far off. Hello. Like
it's me. Anyway, good morning. It's
Monday.
Off to the first day of prep before the
hypothermia treatment tomorrow. I'm
getting hypothermia now before I get
hypothermia tomorrow. That's my That's
my strategy. I don't actually know what
today consists of
[music]
with this. We just try to attack and and
work on all kind of different levels to
to detox and get rid of toxins. We give
the immune system so much capacity back.
>> It's a 3-day experience. [music]
On day one, they did what's called a a
chilation procedure where they did an IV
that pulls metals out. And the the
reason they do that is to pull metals
out so that they can get caught in the
filter. [music]
>> Working a lot now because of the um of
the alpha bone that brings the heavy
metals out of the tissue.
>> I think the perception that I had of of
what was going on with Chris, I knew he
was going through quite a bit. You could
see how hard he's pushing to to get to a
point of being back to full health, to
being back to to to being Chris.
[music]
>> One, two, three, four, five.
>> I have seven nipples.
>> Thank you. You did it.
>> Thank you. [clears throat]
>> Um,
I have a question for tomorrow
>> that you might not have been asked
before. Um, I spoke to my urologist in
the USA.
>> Mhm.
>> One of the things he wanted me to try
and do was to uh keep everything cool
>> while we're in there. Um
>> Oh, okay.
>> So, I have
>> Yes.
>> Uh, cool packs
>> with these. Do you have a freezer?
>> Yes.
>> Can I give you these?
>> Yes.
>> Is that a weird request?
>> No.
>> I was worried about asking you. I don't
know if if this is really good for it,
but if you're or
>> I'm just going to try. We're
experimenting here. You're great.
>> Thank you very much. You're welcome.
>> That was way less awkward than I thought
it was going to be. Thank you.
>> Just pack my special ball pants away.
[laughter]
Put my special ball pants away.
>> Reminders just come up on my phone. Pack
what in the freezer, Chris? Oh, your
nutsicles. Pack your nutsicles in the
freezer. We will put them in the fridge
for now. The doctor says it's okay. We
will put it in the fridge. She was
worried about it hurting my balls.
Uh-huh.
>> She was worried about it hurting my
balls.
Today was fine. I don't feel so nervous
for tomorrow anymore. Uh, I probably
should be. There's a bit of me I'm
nervous that I'm not nervous. I feel
like I should be nervous. Uh, I'm just
ready to be a baked potato for 4 hours
tomorrow and get whatever it is. the
special electrodes and the UV and the
heat and the ozone with the baby lung
and the nutsicles and then the bone
marrow and then the stem cells
and then be done.
[sighs]
Bit nervous.
Bit nervous now. I think anytime you're
going to be out of it for a while, if
you're under general anesthetic, there's
this strange sense that life's going to
continue happening and a ton of stuff's
going to happen to me. Hello.
>> Huge fan of you. Huge fan. Nice to meet
you.
>> My name is Max.
>> Max, nice to meet you.
Um, pleasure meeting you and I just saw
your story that you're in Vienna and
thought like no way he's going to travel
to Vienna to see.
>> No, no, I I work here right here. I
literally just am on my way to work. I
just saw the camera and thought, "Oh,
well, interesting. Someone interesting
is going to be here." And then
>> you were wrong. How wrong you are.
>> Yeah, completely.
>> Max, really nice to meet you, brother.
Nice meeting you.
>> I appreciate you.
>> Yeah.
Just strange to think that stuff's going
to be happening to you while you're
asleep.
You don't know how you're going to be
when you wake up. And
you know, five different treatments
happening at the same time. Light and
heat and oxygen and filter and this
electric thing I'm doing at the start
that I didn't even know I'm doing. Oh,
and by the way, some stem cells going to
get taken out of your hip. Oh, and by
the way, they're going to get put back
in. It's a lot happening. But I'm going
to do what I need to do in order to be
able to fix myself. And this is the next
thing that I think that I need to do.
So I'll do it.
Morning. Morning. How are you and you?
Let's see. He headache.
>> Um you have headache.
>> Not particularly. Uh a little brain fog.
>> Brain fog. Yeah.
>> Uh not really any headache. Sleep was a
bit disrupted.
>> Mhm.
>> Slightly disrupted sleep. Um
>> I slept and okay enough. I guess
>> that's pretty much it. I'm a little
nervous today, but other than that, I'm
okay.
>> We will take care of you.
>> Regretting that.
>> It suits you.
>> Does it? What are you getting at?
>> I feel like Marilyn Monroe getting out
of a taxi.
>> Don't fly.
and
>> this is what makes sure that I'm still
alive
before. Yeah,
we will do that first.
First, first you sleep.
Now it's my time.
You're sorry.
How am I tired again?
You a little bit tired already or not?
>> Okay, he's asleep.
So then on day two, we [music] put a a
femoral line in. They developed this
amazing approach where they were able to
bypass a lot of the problems people have
with not having veins that are good
enough to filter a large amount of
blood. So they put a femoral line in
that can filter all the blood on your
body 15 times. This central line goes
in, blood gets [music] pulled out from
the central line and then it goes
through a little oxygenation and then
all the blood like 15 times in your body
is going to be filtered through this
filter. And then they heat you to a
temperature of 41. And so 41's like
105°. [music]
That's a high fever. When these cells
get hot like that, they start to dump
toxins which are going to get caught in
the filter and the oxygen goes inside
the cell and starts to fight the
intracellular infections which [music]
is like these chronic epsene bar and CMB
and Velia and these things that are
stealing energy inside your cells from
your mitochondria. And so hyperothermia,
oxygenation and filter, that [music]
process goes on for 3 hours.
it it's hard to see somebody going
through something and I I feel like you
don't you don't know 100% or you can't
like fully understand something until
you see something. So going into this I
thought it would be pretty smooth
sailing but it didn't it didn't quite
sink in until he was [music] then under
anesthetic. The treatment was underway
and he was knocked out. He was he was
asleep [music]
and then it kind of hit home and it was
like, "Oh, oh [ __ ] This is bad." Like,
"This isn't something you would normally
do for just like, oh, my health's just,
you know, my health's not right." Like,
[music] something's obviously definitely
wrong here. That was when everything hit
and it was hard and it's hard [music] to
see your friend like that.
It's hard [music] to digest.
So it was it was heavy. It was really
heavy.
And
>> how do you feel?
>> Dizzy.
>> Yeah,
>> very dizzy.
Oh, I just
actually wasn't that hard to do The
treatment yesterday was scary.
It wasn't I didn't do anything. I just
laid there, but today's
difficulty level is pretty high.
Also,
the parts of me that are the most
painful and none of the things to do
with the actual treatment, like my lower
back hurts because I was in a kind of a
weird soft bed at an angle for a while.
My neck hurts because I laid at the same
side for 4 hours. Like my hip hurts
because they stuck a needle in me. My
groin hurts because they stuck a
catheter in me.
>> Okay, thank you.
>> I haven't got any other pain
apart from gravity feels about twice as
heavy as usual at the moment.
[music]
>> Day three is basically just a reset
where they give you some IVs and and
basically kind of balance you out.
I've done a lot of treatments over the
last 18 months.
I've done another big thing. We will see
how this works. We'll see if this has an
impact on me.
[music]
>> He's on the journey. This is going to be
a steady case of three steps forward,
[music] one step back.
Hope is like a beacon. [music] You just
have to navigate to that beacon and not
give up. Chris is somebody who knows all
of the rules everywhere all the time.
And it's kind of like perfectly managed
everything. And it's going slower than
he would want it to go. And then my
confidence that he's going to get 100%
better is is very very high. It feels
hard. And so you have to you have to
fight and stay strong. But it's going to
be an epic journey.
>> You know, I pride myself on being
disciplined and resilient and peaceful,
mindful. Those weren't things that I was
born with. They were very much things
that I cultivated.
But
>> [ __ ] me, this is really testing the
limits.
And
>> I think I've cried more in the last 18
months than
probably the previous 18 years. It
really does push the limits of
your capacity of tolerance. How much can
you deal with
being out of control?
Not
not being in charge of the direction of
your life or your health. It's real
adversity training to
think that you're someone who can deal
with hard things.
But okay, how hard is it to just be laid
up in bed for a few days? How about
that?
How about the difficulty of being gentle
with yourself
when
you're not operating the way that you
want to, even though you've done all of
the things to try and help you achieve
that? What about the challenge of being
patient with a process that you have no
idea whether there is an end or where
the end is going to be and when it's
going to arrive?
>> These are
really really hard to learn skills and
uh
frankly I wish I wasn't having to learn
them
but we're here so I'm going to keep
going. I really hope that this comes
back around to
some sort of redemption
because
I'm sick of not feeling myself. I'm sick
of not being the person that I'm
supposed to be
through no fault of my own.
I miss me
and I know that my friends do too. So,
here's to finding me again.