Video summary
The video argues that one of One Piece's most significant factions, the Holy Knights, were not originally planned by Eiichiro Oda but rather emerged as a brilliant retroactive addition to the series' lore. The speaker supports this claim by examining early prototype manga and guidebooks like *Kaizoku Daishinroku*, which reveal that Oda frequently reused characters and concepts from his pre-One Piece works. For instance, the character Shanks first appeared in a prototype titled *Land of the Dragon and the Ten Thieves* as a knight commander, while other series featured knights who evolved into figures like Sanji or Ryuma. These early prototypes demonstrate that Oda had a deep affinity for knightly themes long before he settled on the world-building of One Piece, allowing him to seamlessly integrate these elements as the story expanded over decades.
As the narrative grew from a simple pirate adventure into a complex saga involving emperors, warlords, and global politics, Oda needed new antagonistic forces to escalate the conflict without exhausting his roster of pirates. The transcript explains that the World Government itself was not present in the earliest versions of the story; it evolved from a basic alliance of kingdoms into a massive bureaucratic entity with secret cells like Cipher Pol. To maintain tension and introduce fresh challenges, Oda eventually created the Holy Knights to serve as an elite espionage force directly under the World Nobles. This development effectively made earlier organizations like CP0 redundant, mirroring how CP9 was later superseded by CP0, showcasing a pattern of organizational evolution driven by the need for escalating stakes rather than a pre-written master plan.
The speaker concludes that while the Holy Knights may not have been part of the initial outline, their creation is a testament to Oda's unique ability to mine his own history for inspiration. By recycling sketches and ideas from thirty years ago, Oda can transform obscure concepts into pivotal plot points, such as the introduction of Figarland Garling or the events surrounding Elbaf. This approach highlights that the specific details of the Holy Knights' existence were likely added later to address narrative necessities, such as providing a powerful enemy for the World Nobles while keeping the Marines focused on military operations like the Paramount War. Ultimately, the video celebrates this organic growth as a strength rather than a flaw, illustrating how Oda's willingness to revisit old notebooks allows him to craft a rich, evolving world that feels both cohesive and surprising.
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Emergency meeting, everyone. I think
that I've found evidence that one of One
Piece's biggest end game factions were
never actually planned to exist. And
right now, we are in the middle of an
episode of Whose Knight Is It Anyway?
The show where everything's made up and
the foreshadowing doesn't matter. And
before anyone goes and reports me to the
four-skinning police, I just need to say
that this is a good thing. Because after
digging through prototype manga, obscure
guidebooks, and nearly 30 years of One
Piece history, I genuinely think that
the Holy Knights may have been one of
Oda's most brilliant retroactive
additions. And I'm going to start my
argument by presenting the overwhelming
amount of evidence against it. One of
the greatest artifacts that a One Piece
historian could ever possess is a book
called Kaizoku Daishinroku, which
roughly translates as Deconstruction New
Record. And it earns that name by
revealing 19 different manga series that
Eiichiro Oda had planned and submitted
to his editor before finally landing on
One Piece. This book was released as
part of the Monsters DVD box set, which
is another one of Oda's pre-One Piece
works. And I wanted to buy one to show
all of you on video, but I currently
can't find any for less than a thousand
Australian dollarydoos. Although,
weirdly enough, it is not the rare
treasure trove of a guidebook that
drives this price. It's also the fact
that it comes with a rare Ryuma promo
card for the One Piece TCG that destroys
most people's chances of ever owning
this material. Luckily, the entire book
it has been scanned and is available
online. But mates, the One Piece TCG it
has a lot to answer for. Like how
recently the issue of Weekly Shonen Jump
for One Piece's 29th anniversary
contained a promo for the TCG and
scalpers filled their cars and houses
with as many copies of Jump as they
could buy. I love TCGs, but everything
that this game touches turns into
absolute Anyway, back to whatever
it is I was talking about. One of the 19
prototype series in the guidebook is
called Land the Dragon and the Ten
Thieves. And this is the first known
appearance of a character called Shanks
in one of Oda's works. And this scholar
Shanks is a knight commander inhabiting
the same rank that Figarland Garling
would go on to carry in One Piece. And I
should say that Oda, he really loved
knights in these early prototypes. Many
series contain them. A series called
Woody Woodman was described as the story
of a bandit and a knight commander, with
the knight commander in question being
named Dorc, and also featuring a
character named Bantini who possessed
the earliest known drawing of what
became Shanks' iconic scar. But it's not
just about knights though. Woody Woodman
also featured what appears to be a heavy
focus on twins and or doppelgangers as
the main character the bandit Akka was
noted to look exactly like the knight
commander Dorc when he had his hair
down, meaning that Oda likely had plans
to pull either a twin or doppelganger
twist in the same way that he eventually
did with Shanks and Shamrock.
Particularly the moment of Shamrock
meeting the five elders with readers for
many, many years assuming that this was
Shanks. And the knight trend would
continue with another series called The
Great Swordsman Samurai versus Knight
which featured an earlier incarnation of
Ryuma and also the earliest known
prototype of Sanji and knight named
Romeo. So Ryuma was the swordsman, Romeo
was the knight. They also both kind of
had the same face. But in this case, I
don't know if that was the intention or
if it's just that Oda had a much more
limited range as an artist back then.
I'm inclined to think it's the second
one. Bearing in mind that he's still
about 18 to 19 years old when drawing
these. And while Sanji did not end up
being a knight, the aspect of chivalry
did end up becoming a major part of his
personality in One Piece. And look, I'm
not going to go through all of them.
There's a lot. But within each of these
prototypes you can elements that Oda
ended up recycling in One Piece. In
fact, One Piece can be considered to be
the combination of these 20 plus
previous works that Oda created,
including the actual published one-shots
like Monsters and Wanted which have now
been incorporated into the One Piece
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Me? Thanks. Me? Although not everything
has been incorporated, at least not yet,
one of my favorite stories is about a
god of poverty who keeps trying to help
people, but always accidentally ends up
making them poor. Hilarious. But
knights, knight commanders, and knights
named Shanks were indeed in Oda's mind
before One Piece ever existed. However,
that doesn't mean that this was the plan
all along. It's more so that these
elements were tapped and incorporated as
a solution to One Piece's very
unexpected length. One Piece was
famously never supposed to become the
1,000 chapter plus monstrosity it is
today. When Eiichiro Oda first began
serializing One Piece in the last
century, he believed that the entire
adventure would wrap up in, I don't
know, maybe around 5 years with the Four
Emperors serving as Luffy's opponents.
It's funny because we didn't even know
that the Four Emperors existed until
more than 400 chapters into the series.
And when you get to that point, the
Emperors, they feel like a very late
game development. Where have they been
all along? But in reality, it's more so
that it took 400 plus chapters to
finally get to the point of the series
that Oda was trying to make. With the
final saga of the pre-time skip era
designed to explore and chronicle the
demise of one of Four Emperors, Mr.
Whitebeard, and with every post-time
skip arc up until the end of Wano being
geared squarely, or any other shapely
you so desire, towards taking down two
more with Big Mom and Kaido. Regardless
of how off track we got, originally the
name of the game was piracy. All the
crazy crap that we know about today, a
revolu- tionary Army, Warlords of the
Sea, Ninja Samurai Minks Alliances, all
of that stuff has been added in as time
goes on, which includes the World
Government. And you may say, "But man on
the internet, we've been fighting
against the World Government ever since
chapter three. We even saw Luffy punch
his first beta test World Noble when he
thwacked Helmeppo in the same way that
he'd go on to not just hit Saint
Charlos, but one day go all the way to
the top and smack Saint Imu Nerona." And
it is really cool to see that chapter
consistency carried over from chapter
three all the way to chapter 1,186
and beyond. But a rather startling
realization I came to is that the World
Government didn't actually exist in the
beginning of One Piece. That layer was
incorporated later, like everything
else. The Marines, they existed. They
are who we were fighting in chapter
three. But it takes a very, very long
time for Oda to acknowledge a greater
power than them. As if the Marines were
intended to be the be-all and end-all of
whatever this faction was, which I am
inclined to believe because the
prototype series for One Piece, Romance
Dawn version one and two, were rather
simplistic in their world construction
as well. In the Romance Dawn universe,
to the best of our knowledge, Marines
don't even exist. The world purely
consists of pirates divided into two
factions, peacemains and morganeers.
Basically, the good guys and the bad
guys. It was that simple. And whilst the
peacemains weren't strictly speaking
heroes, they were pretty unambiguously
good. And they actually hunted down
morganeers and had a similar mission to
the Marines in One Piece against piracy.
So, it is my theory that Oda got rid of
the competing branches of piracy and
substituted the Marines in for the
peacemains, which I like because without
a clear definition of piracy, every
pirate is now able to pursue their own
individual view of the concept, which
has led to some incredibly interesting
protagonists and antagonists. But, my
point is that when this world began
life, oh, it was very simple, ever so
simple. First, when the story god
created the world, there were only
pirates. But then story god went, "Hang
on, maybe Marines also." And I have a
very hard time believing at this stage
that Oda had any grand plans for some
sort of colossal organizational force
that is the world government. I do think
that this increasingly complex entity
spawned out of necessity to both
escalate the story and neatly tie up
some problems that were developing as a
result of length. And you can see this
exact thing happening with the very
first appearance of the world
government, which is in chapter 142.
This was during Drum Island, and it was
a flashback to the Reverie, where King
Cobra had an argument with King Wapol,
and then Wapol, well, he slapped a
child. You know, prior to meeting
Princess Vivi, there was no such thing
as kings or kingdoms in the One Piece
world. East Blue had none, and every
other island we'd heard of, like Vera,
was defined as a country, not a kingdom.
It was only after we got into the Grand
Line that Oda decided, "Hey, I think
kingdoms exist." So, we visited Drum, we
visited Alabasta, and the kingdoms, they
have kept on coming ever since. However,
this came with the need for an
explanation for how these kingdoms
coexist with one another and the
solution at the time was the Reverie, a
regular event where kings who were part
of this world government alliance would
come to discuss pressing issues and to
take action. It is a very very logical
conclusion. And while Stota also does
draw a very early version of the Holy
Land of Mary Geoise in chapter 142,
there is no sign of world nobles, the
five elders, Cipher Pol, or any element
at all of the world government apart
from its name and that of course
includes Holy Knights who are very not
there either. So, one hypothesis is that
the world government was originally
supposed to be what the empty throne is
supposed to represent today. A number of
kingdoms that all came together to make
an alliance without a ruling body. And
you can perhaps see the remnants of this
today because the most recent Reverie,
it is a bit of an odd event. You have
all of these kings and queens gathering
at the Holy Land of Mary Geoise to
discuss world issues but with no actual
involvement from the world government.
The world nobles and the five elders
seem to have no jurisdiction over what
happens at the Reverie, which is a very
big deal when powerful decisions such as
abolishing the seven warlords of the sea
come out of it. So, what you have the
world nobles giving complete control of
global affairs to a bunch of people that
they quite literally consider to be
lower than insects. It is a weird system
and I think that it comes from the fact
that the Reverie existed before the
world government as we know them today
existed. And the ongoing creation
process of the world government, it's
always been a bit messy. may not look
like it after going through Whole Cake
Island and Alabasta where the world
government is the core antagonist, but
the world government was never really
Oda's focus. The vast vast majority of
One Piece is geared towards piracy with
two notable saga-rific exceptions, Water
7 and the Paramount War. And Water 7
introduced us to some of my personal
favorite antagonists in the series,
Cipher Pol 9 or CP9. And as much as I
love these guys, they've always been a
source of logistical issues. The
existence of Cipher Pol itself is well
known throughout the world. Your general
citizens know that there are eight
cells, CP1 through CP8. However, on
Water 7, we learn that there is a top
secret ninth cell, CP9, which no one
knows about. It's a secret. That is
until them being a secret becomes
irrelevant to the plot. After CP9 are
revealed to us, we've had our shocks and
our gasps. Then all of a sudden,
everyone in the world knows about CP9.
To the point where Luffy's victory over
Rob Lucci was announced via a
loudspeaker on Enies Lobby, which
shocked everyone when they should in
fact be more confused because no one
outside of the very top of the World
Government should even know who Rob
Lucci is. But it turns out that Rob
Lucci, he's something of a celebrity.
Not just amongst the World Government,
but also the Marines and even some of
the general public. Which makes you
wonder how he was so successful as an
undercover agent within Galley-La, given
that he didn't even change his name. He
was Rob Lucci the entire time. What an
alias. And furthermore, CP9 at the time
were said to be the very top. They were
the most secret. They were the most
powerful. Until too much time in the
story had gone on and Oda had to create
CP0. A cell that is even less secret
than CP9, given that every random
citizen seems to recognize them no
matter where they go. Now, CP0, they do
have the distinction of being under the
direct command of the World Nobles. And
there are instances of, say, Saint
Charlos giving them orders. But for the
most part, they directly serve the five
elders, which is exactly what CP9 did.
There's a bit of a misconception that
Spandam was in charge of CP9, but he was
a member of CP9, the leader of the cell
who reported directly to the five
elders. So, the two cells, your CP9s and
your CP0s, they're more or less the same
in terms of functionality. And in fact,
they're quite literally the same in the
respect that most of CP0's membership
are the former CP9 members, including
Spandam. And given that they largely
serve the same purpose that CP9 was
employed with, what Oda has done here is
more of a CP9 reskin. They have white
outfits now, and that means that they
are stronger. And they are, but not
strong enough. Because when we did get
to go up against CP0 on Egghead Island,
and Lucci was defeated by not only Luffy
again, but he was also defeated by a
bandanaless Zoro, which is quite the
insult. But the issue there is that
after Egghead Island, well, the story
wasn't over yet. And we don't have a lot
of options here to escalate. At this
point, Oda has almost exhausted his
roster of pirates. Luffy has already
beaten an emperor of the sea. He is an
emperor of the sea. And there's really
only Blackbeard remaining as an
antagonist in the world of piracy, but
we're not ready to go there yet. So, we
have to put that on hold for now and
focus on the other antagonistic force in
the series, the World Government.
However, that's tricky because we don't
have a lot of people to fight. In terms
of the World Government, we already
dealt with the super top secret strong
CP9s, and we've also dealt with the
other, much less secret, but super
strong CP0. So, what are our options
here? Do we reskin CP0 and make them
CP-1, or do we make them redundant by
introducing yet another secret World
Government organization? I will take the
second one, s'il vous plaît. The Holy
Knights are the new Cipher Pol. They do
everything that a CP cell would be
charged with, just with the privilege of
being World Nobles and having access to
a teeny bit of Imu powers. Like
Figarland Garling's mission to
infiltrate God Valley, or Saturn's who
used to be assigned with the task of
capturing baby Shanks from those nasty
nasty Roger Pirates, or even recently
with Saint Garling orchestrating the
downfall of Elbaf to acquire One Piece
or Gungnir. The Holy Knights are very
espionage centric characters that now
make CP0 redundant in the same way that
CP0 made CP9 redundant. I will give Oda
more credit than that, though, because I
believe we can pinpoint the existence of
the Holy Knights in One Piece back to
chapter 907, which is the aforementioned
first appearance of Figarland Shamrock,
even if we didn't know it. And Garling
was introduced in chapter 1086, which
was before the Holy Knights were decided
to be the antagonist of the Elbaf arc.
So, Oda has laid them in much earlier.
However, for the first 906 chapters of
One Piece, I am convinced that there
were no Holy Knights and even no Knights
planned, only days. And I think that the
incident that displays this best may be
the Paramount War. In hindsight, it does
raise the amusing image of Marineford
descending into absolute chaos with the
fate of the World Government in
question, whilst the Holy Knights were
just sitting at home in Shangara,
polishing their swords and feeding their
dogs, which are also their swords, and
saying to themselves, "Yeah, that sounds
like a Marine problem." And I guess in
defense of this, I don't believe that
there were any World Government agents
at Marineford, no Cipher Pol agents that
I'm aware of anyway. Marineford was
exactly that, a Marine operation. The
Admiral Sengoku, Garp, the Warlords, who
are not Marines, but it doesn't matter,
and an army of about 100,000 were
expected to handle the Whitebeard
Pirates. And that's not quite the
purpose that the Holy Knights exist to
serve. They're not there to win wars.
They exist to ensure that the World
Nobles are always excessively
comfortable all of the yummy lobster
they want. And I can definitely see a
solid argument for keeping them at the
Holy Land because Marie Geoise would
have been more or less defenseless with
the majority of the Marine forces being
dedicated to the Paramount War. But all
of that is me making excuses because the
real answer is that the Holy Knights,
they almost certainly didn't exist. In
fact, back in these days, I doubt that
Imu existed. And the Five Elders, they
did exist, but they were portrayed more
as politicians than fighters. Thinkers,
not doers. Suits, not swords. Pens, not
meetings, not melee. More bingo than
battlefield and more likely to ask you
to speak up than square up because
they're old and they can't hear you
properly, etc. We could go on like this.
And the funny thing is that even though
we've seen the Five Elders fight now,
it's still kind of true because mate, do
they suck. So, were the Holy Knights
planned from the beginning of One Piece?
Personally, I don't think so. Oda, in
his mind, he had the broad strokes of
them from his other prototype series,
but the specific organization only came
together in One Piece much, much later.
And again, that is not a criticism. It
is arguably Oda's greatest strength as a
writer. He has this incredible talent
for rummaging through 30-year-old
notebooks, finding a sketch labeled
"Tonight Guy, maybe?" and then somehow
turning it into one of the most
important characters in One Piece. And
at this point, I'm convinced that Oda
could rediscover an old grocery list and
decide that the villains of the next arc
going to be canned tuna, frozen peas,
and hemorrhoid cream, and I will still
somehow end up making a 20-minute theory
video explaining why that was obvious
all along. So, look forward to that
video, but for now, you let me know what
you think about all of this in the
comments below.