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IT'S THE BUTCHER! W/ CHICO BEAN, KARLOUS MILLER, DC YOUNG FLY, & BENNY THE BUTCHER

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In this episode of the 85 South Show, hosts Chico Bean and Karlou Miller are joined by DC Young Fly and Benny The Butcher for an in-depth conversation about their careers, origins, and the cultural significance of hip-hop from Buffalo. While acknowledging that cities like New York often overshadow others, the group highlights how Buffalo has produced influential artists who deserve recognition, potentially earning a spot in the Music Hall of Fame. Benny shares his personal journey of reinventing himself from "Buff City" to The Black Soprano Family after being inspired by Lil Wayne while incarcerated, emphasizing that maintaining family bonds and mutual respect is essential for their longevity despite industry challenges. They also discuss favorite films such as *Fresh*, *Boyz n the Hood*, and *Goodfellas*, reflecting on how these stories resonate with themes of struggle and resilience found in music. The dialogue shifts to studio habits and the evolution of the music industry, where the hosts note that they avoid alcohol while recording to maintain clarity, contrasting this discipline with past eras when artists consumed mixed spirits like Four Loko or Hypnotic leading to chaotic behavior. They observe how the landscape has changed from a niche craft requiring genuine talent to an oversaturated market where many claim ability without possessing real skill, urging artists to stick to their expertise rather than chasing trends outside their lane. This reflection extends to nostalgia for 1990s club scenes and BET's *Uncut*, recalling explicit music videos aired late at night alongside religious programming segments featuring Peter Popoff selling miracle spring water, as well as personal anecdotes about expensive phone sex lines from the '90s and jail experiences watching shows like *Buffy the Vampire Slayer*. Beyond hip-hop history, the group explores various cultural touchstones including dance culture, contrasting old-school line dances with newly invented moves created spontaneously in studios. They analyze influential rap eras such as Master P's No Limit Records and Cash Money Crew, noting how those artists turned music into a viable hustle while maintaining distinct regional sounds—a quality now often missing when persona overshadows talent. The conversation also touches on the evolution of mobile technology, moving from early pagers mistaken for drug-dealing signs to expensive Nokia phones and modern smartphones with Bluetooth earpieces, before discussing specific models like the Sidekick and Razr featuring interchangeable faceplates. The segment concludes with reflections on perseverance through hardship, learning to navigate failure, and maintaining authenticity despite industry changes, alongside a brief discussion of upcoming Philadelphia 76ers games involving LeBron James's team. The hosts promote Blue Chew Gold for male confidence using promo code "85 South," OT The Real as an emerging artist gaining respect from peers like State Property around 2019-2020, and DC Young Fly's independent streaming service Channel 85 offering early access to content with a six-month discount via the code "85enter." Viewers are also directed to contact bookings@85southshow.com for professional booking inquiries as the show wraps up its celebration of artistry, community hustle, and enduring creativity.
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We make it hot. >> Mhm. >> But [ __ ] the cop. >> Yeah, >> I know you got some [ __ ] >> I do. >> That beat just switched up on me. >> He He want that other beat. >> He want that Once Upon a Time beat. >> Once upon a time, man. >> Oh, that's what you rapping to. I guess I tell you the rest then. >> Okay, >> I'll tell you the rest. >> That what we doing? You storytellers, huh? >> Yeah, [ __ ] >> Okay, then. Hey, >> you should play the instrumental in this [ __ ] >> That's what I'm saying. What you want to do? Play the instrumental. The [ __ ] you the producer. We got the instrumental. got beat. >> Oh, he got [ __ ] He got [ __ ] >> Yeah, he got [ __ ] >> Okay. >> Oh [ __ ] This [ __ ] stop playing. Yo yo yo yo yo yo. Uhhuh. I fig like they [ __ ] you know it. Never going to show it. Everybody in this big war. Let's blow it out. [ __ ] want to handle. I ain't even playing no games. You know it's scandals when I'm not involved. [ __ ] standing tall. Yes, y'all. >> Yes. Yes, y'all. I'm about to fall. Don't even have to stall. Pick up the phone, left her all alone, and then I had her waiting on my call. Yes. Now, let me kick it. >> Funky fresh. >> Came through with a girl with a hairstyle and some nice breast. >> We're wearing gas. >> I made her study with her buddy for the test. My name is Lois. Okay. >> I kick it high. >> The girls like me. I'm a real nice guy. It's a nice try, but that's a lie. I like my fish sandwich baked, not hot fried. >> Okay, let me go ahead get my turn. But let me tell you, listen, I take my side. I know face, I know case, I know sh. So let me go ahead switch the plates and let me go ahead and switch the pace. I'm switching the flow. [ __ ] around, I get in the door. You know what? I said it slow. >> Let me go ahead and >> I swear this [ __ ] sound like it came out in '94. 94. >> That [ __ ] stupid, bro. >> Would have went like that. That was crazy. >> We would have made it in like 91. >> Oh, that was out of here. >> That was all right. Your turn, [ __ ] >> Yeah. Your third. >> I don't know how to freestyle, man. >> The [ __ ] >> You know, you know that's a damn lie. >> You know, it's a damn lie. I'm in my 40s. We all know how to rap. Everybody already know how to rap >> for sure. >> Everybody, man, you don't want to hear me freestyle. >> Why we don't? >> You want to hear you freestyle? You want to hear me? You I go pee. Do it. >> Hey, flock them [ __ ] stalling. You already know we still backing. Yeah. And the birch something she's calling. I don't know what she wants to say. >> Hey, you already know. I said, "Let me play some way." I got nothing. I don't even know what to say. Let's play. >> Hey, man. Well, you sound just like them [ __ ] man. Sound just like them [ __ ] >> Man, you never know who might pop up in the trap, man. >> When you over here with the 85 Samo, you never know who might pull up. So today, man, we got a very special guest in here with us, man. >> Yes, sir. >> Cold ass [ __ ] man. >> What we doing, >> man? Wrap his ass off, man. >> Huh? >> Business man, man. >> You feel me, man? All the way up out of Buffalo, man. >> Yes, sir. >> None other than Benny the Bushes, bro. >> Thank y'all fellas for having me, man. I'm a big fan. >> I'm a big fan, man. I love y'all boys. >> Fan of yours, man. You know my [ __ ] is, man. That [ __ ] say I remember listening to Woo in ' 95. >> Got my first strap from Conway in 99. Paper I was trying to find. What he say? Paper I was trying to find. That summer I learned how to rob. Got in one shootout and my homie quit on me and got >> a job. Real true story. >> True story. >> So he said [ __ ] this [ __ ] >> He said [ __ ] that [ __ ] He got any he got a good paying job now. And that was about like 20 something years ago. >> Real true story >> for sure. >> Crazy man. 99 >> 99 getting money in 99. >> I really wasn't getting money. I was just starting. >> [ __ ] That was still good time to get started. >> [ __ ] you know, salute to the Knicks and the New York Knicks and all that, but >> you know, you from Buffalo, man. Like >> Mhm. >> You know, that's one of the places that, you know, don't really get recognized or didn't get recognized before y'all put y'all stamp down, man. Like >> what does it mean being from Buffalo being one of the faces if not the face of Buffalo? >> I mean it's crazy because like you said ain't nobody never came out that [ __ ] >> I like to say they going to build schools after [ __ ] when it's all over. But it's just we we the first man. We the nobody got an example of entertainers coming with rappers coming out of there. So we the first that represent this type of culture. You know what I'm saying? First rapper there with a with a plaque. You know what I'm saying? So [ __ ] like that just means so much. It's just bigger than it just bigger than us. You know what I'm saying? You know how this [ __ ] go. 20 years they going to talk about it all the time. You know what I'm saying? So that [ __ ] definitely mean a going into the [ __ ] Buffalo Music Hall of Fame and [ __ ] That mean a lot to me. You know what I'm saying? >> Y'all already They didn't already put y'all in there. >> No, they uh >> they scheduling us. They want us there. You know what I'm saying? They want us there. So >> [ __ ] like that, man. >> Did y'all see it back in the day? Cuz y'all was y'all really from out the gutter. Like a lot of people don't know Buffalo is one of them places like [ __ ] go. You'll see. >> Maybe you'll see. >> You think it's just wings and the bills? No. >> Them [ __ ] is out there, too. >> Did y'all when back in the day when y'all was out and and you know, living like we all come from the hood living? Did y'all see it, >> man? I want to say >> the vision. >> I want to say I did see it, but I ain't see this [ __ ] Westside Gun, he had the vision. I feel like he saw, but man, I ain't see this [ __ ] I just I just did the [ __ ] cuz I love it. It's so crazy cuz Tip asked me this. He said, "What made y'all [ __ ] keep rapping and going when you had no signs that the [ __ ] was working?" You know what I'm saying? I couldn't answer that. I don't know. [ __ ] did that [ __ ] cuz they loved it. [ __ ] on robot mode. Feel like that's what you're supposed to be doing. But [ __ ] ain't have no signs and just no nothing. That's what we love to do, man. I tell people my block, I'm from Montana. It's that block. It's a group from my hood, Killer Brown. And they went to the Apollo. You know what I'm saying? That was some big [ __ ] >> Them [ __ ] at the Apollo. So he was my homies who lived down the block from me. >> So small [ __ ] like that just motivated the [ __ ] You know what I'm saying? >> But we ain't see it. >> We see trying to get unbanned. >> Unbail after email. >> Yeah, we get back. >> It's just [ __ ] up that you know we banned from that history man. >> Y'all kill it up there too. >> We got banned after that. >> Oh [ __ ] >> It was after we got banned after that. >> [ __ ] Y'all did >> us. We took the blame. >> No, it's all good. It's all good, [ __ ] [ __ ] >> Damn. >> No, Buffalo. When the last time you been up there, >> man. I just was up there. What the end of last year at the uh Healing Comedy Club? But I love Buffalo, man, cuz it's like one of those places where, >> you know, I always say in this country, man, it's a lot of places that people don't know [ __ ] is is living and active and got culture. And >> you know what I mean? Buffalo is one of those play the whole upstate New York. Like a lot of people don't recognize the Rochester and the Buffaloos and you know what I mean the Albies and all facts. Like we didn't been up through all them places. You know what I'm saying? >> Y know cuz y travelers. Y'all know that [ __ ] >> I ain't never been to Buffalo when it was warm though. >> No, I only been when he need you might not never be in that [ __ ] >> That the most white people ever at my show. >> What? The Buffalo show? >> Remember we did the Buffalo show at the uh at the >> 99% white. Yeah, we did that [ __ ] at the >> But you know what? It's a just like you said, it's definitely a white city, but it's one of them places like it's the hood is out that [ __ ] >> Sure. Get busy though. >> Doing music and being on tour. I pop up in places. I'm like, where the [ __ ] all these [ __ ] came from? >> I'm saying you in a small town. Real [ __ ] >> You know what I mean? Omaha, Nebraska. >> Bunch of [ __ ] out there >> like that. Like that you wouldn't think that our presence is there, but we there. And it's culture there. One place that shocked me when I first started going is Milwaukee. Like Milwaukee is one of the most cultured places you going to find in this country, man. them [ __ ] do they own everything. But it's not till you go there to see cuz if you don't like I was just saying you don't have somebody to come out and narrate the story then people don't know. That's why it's a big salute to Griselda cuz y'all narrated Buffalo story and people now know that it's more to New York than just the five burrows. You know what I'm saying? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. For sure. >> [ __ ] need that motivation, man. >> One of one of my favorite places though was I love Virginia, man. >> I love the whole the whole [ __ ] Virginia. Richmond. >> Oh yeah. >> [ __ ] Norol. >> The whole Yeah. the seven city. You know, >> I love that whole [ __ ] >> Salute to the seven cities. >> A lot of black people out there, too. >> Yeah, [ __ ] One of the Boy, if you ain't never been to Portouth, [ __ ] >> Yeah. Poor Smith. Yet those [ __ ] >> It was scary. >> Boy, Portith. >> Yeah. But all that, [ __ ] The whole all all seven of the cities. Nor all of them, [ __ ] It's the hood is out there. But it's love though. And you don't got to be That's the thing I say. You ain't got to be scared to be amongst your people, man. Especially if you doing something to give to the people like we >> we building culture. So they want that. They want you to come and and [ __ ] with them cuz usually people don't go through there. >> So you know what I mean? Even for you to say Virginia like what made you fall in love with Virginia though as a [ __ ] that been all over. >> Man, coming from coming from a place like Buffalo and >> and seeing like you know us having like one side of the city >> just like man that [ __ ] is black down there. You know what I'm saying? >> Black brothers and sisters doing good for themselves looking beautiful. You know what I'm saying? You know, I admire that [ __ ] You know what I'm saying? It's it's a little deeper to me because, you know what I mean? It's like, like I said, my city, you know, is the east side is predominantly black. North is white, uh, south is middle is lower class and, uh, black people. The west is the poppies and [ __ ] like that. So, it's like a lot of times like we don't have a lot of things for us there. So, times when y'all [ __ ] come to the helium, trust me, >> that be the litter [ __ ] going on. You know what I'm saying? >> 100%. That's a fact. Right. >> So coming to VA, seeing that [ __ ] and they [ __ ] with the music. They kind of like they kind of like identify with Buffalo because even I'm pretty sure producers and a bunch of artists came out of there, you know, they still feel they feel like they one of them cities with that chip on their shoulder. >> We ain't got our [ __ ] Yeah. And it's so much Missy and all of that, but still my [ __ ] credit they deserve. >> You know what I'm saying? Uh [ __ ] >> family. All them [ __ ] man. >> Man, what's my [ __ ] name? I forget this [ __ ] name, man. Kino. My [ __ ] Kino. Kino. Yeah. >> My bad, Kino. [ __ ] Hi, guys. It's the weed. >> But man, when do you feel like it started making sense to >> I feel like I feel like it started making sense. It made it started making sense real quick to me. I went from a projects to the next week I was on a LA rooftop having a meeting fresh from the project. I was on a on a tour with the locks and when that tour finished I went home to the projects. So like it made sense for me like right after I got off that tour I'm like damn you know this [ __ ] real. You know what I'm saying? And then next week I uh basically like moved to Atlanta with West. I moved out here week we was in the [ __ ] LA at the rooftop meeting. Two weeks later we just sitting at a parking garage in Detroit with Eminem and a in a cipher and [ __ ] >> So I'm like no this [ __ ] real. I'm about to get out the hood. That's what I was thinking. Like >> I'm out the hood. Out of there. I'm out of this [ __ ] >> How they wore this in a cipher with Eminem? >> It was crazy. You know what I mean? The whole time that's what I'm thinking. >> Like, you know what I'm saying? For the BET Awards, I'm thinking like, damn. >> You know what I'm saying? And that was that was that was that was when I knew. I'm like, you know, this [ __ ] about to it's about to go further than than what I expected. You know what I'm saying? >> Eminem with the push. Paul Rosenberg, the whole Shady Records at the time. Mike uh Mike Haran, shout out to Shady Records. That's when I knew, like I said, I'm coming straight from the [ __ ] projects in the middle of that [ __ ] >> Straight to the fire. >> Be good. >> Do y'all feel like, let me say this. Do y'all feel like this with comedy? Cuz this how I feel like with rap. >> I always been like the best, one of the best in my city, in my neighborhood. >> But when I evolved and kind of got in the industry, it's like everybody was good. It's like it's like going to it's like going to the league. It's like everybody was fast and could jump high. Everybody had bars and [ __ ] >> You know what I'm saying? I went from there be a room like this. I'm like the only one. You know what I'm saying? I did time in jail was like I'm the only [ __ ] in the yard who was who could spit at the level. But when I start being around, you know, independent labels and [ __ ] like this, everybody could rap. [ __ ] wind up with [ __ ] from [ __ ] Kansas City, Missouri. It don't matter where the [ __ ] they was from. Everybody was nice. >> Is it the kind of same with the comedy? >> Oh, hell yeah. You'll meet a [ __ ] who don't nobody know. >> Mhm. >> Crazy. >> Smoking [ __ ] >> Smoking smoke your ass. >> You feel me? He made you, boy. You better go good. You don't want him to go before you. But it's like them be the ones you learn from where like it ain't really just about all the success. It's more so about the craft and the art. >> And I think we got lucky cuz we came in on Wild and Out which is like [ __ ] it was they bringing comedians from everywhere every day that's trying to something. So we got to operate in that space to be able to test your skill set against [ __ ] every single day. >> You know what I'm saying? For a job for a job. Like you know what I'm saying? That was the best thing about Wilding Out to me though. >> Did that [ __ ] so good that it looked like it was easy, >> right? >> Then [ __ ] come on there and be like, "Damn, I don't know how y'all do >> do this [ __ ] right?" And I'm sure it's the same way with the rap >> cuz even though you know [ __ ] is nice, once you get to get that formula together and get to putting it together, that's one of the things I want to ask you like because y'all [ __ ] rap like and that's not necessarily the the the climate of the game now. >> Like what made y'all say, "Nah, [ __ ] that. We gray come with the the sound of just [ __ ] the boom bap and we just gray talk [ __ ] on these beats. >> Man, I feel like cuz you know Wes had the vision for one and I feel like that's what we good at. You know what I'm saying? Honestly, man, I experiment experimented with music all kind of ways. You know what I'm saying? Cuz like I said, I'm 41. I've been doing this [ __ ] I've been a fan of hip-hop for my whole life. So, I experienced all type of music. You know what I'm saying? I trap wrapped. I You know what I'm saying? That [ __ ] y'all was just doing, I did did that [ __ ] So it's like, you know, we just stuck to what we was good at, man. I think that's important. You got to stick to where you good at and instead of trying to jump in other [ __ ] lane. You got to be the boss of your lane. You know what I'm saying? That's one thing I love about this [ __ ] >> We not fighting for a spot in and in and nobody else lane. You know what I'm saying? We just occupying our lane at a high level. So, man, just just the fact that we knew we was good at it, man, and just keep doing what we was good at even when even when the response, what I'm saying, really wasn't there, you know what I'm saying? Just the talent was. So just keep pushing, man. That's all I could say. [ __ ] be asking me like, "Yo, bro, how I do? How you doing?" Like, you just got to keep going, man. >> You just got You really don't even know what to tell a [ __ ] cuz it ain't a manual for this [ __ ] >> You know what I'm saying? It's just don't stop >> before you meet somebody who want who who can help you take your talent to the next place. You know what I'm saying? Before you bump into your next opportunity. >> Mhm. >> What motivated you? Like who you were listening to that made you be like, "You know what? I'm going to jump into this shit." >> Man, I was listening to uh [ __ ] everything. Mob Deep. Uh, I was listening to [ __ ] uh I don't want to say the regular names. We all listen to Cross the Nas Jay's and everything, but like half [ __ ] like Half a Mill. >> Mhm. >> You know what I'm saying? You know, you know what? I tell people this story all the time. Like Lil Wayne. >> Mhm. >> And not even like the Lil Wayne everybody know like like back in the day I used to I used to go to school down here and [ __ ] and they was like, "Yo, you know Lil I was like in eighth grade. He was like, "Yo, you I was rapping in the gym. They like, yo, you ain't better than Lil Wayne." I'm like, "Who the [ __ ] is Lil Wayne? Go get him." You know what I'm saying? They was like, it was like it was a tape. Real [ __ ] It was like it's a tape. They showed me the tape and he was young. >> So, >> like [ __ ] like that where he was like a young guy rapping about my age and [ __ ] I'm like, damn. I want to do with this [ __ ] >> I don't curse in this verse, man. [ __ ] >> Exactly. You know what I'm saying? I want to I'm going to do what this [ __ ] doing. Another bad creation. That [ __ ] inspired the [ __ ] out of me, >> man. What? >> Aisha, >> that had the game [ __ ] up. >> I wanted to be like them [ __ ] man. Come on, >> man. >> Hell yeah. I ain't even going to hold you. Now that you say that, [ __ ] it. I said I wanted to be an immature [ __ ] >> All right. >> ABC going to hold you, [ __ ] I >> remember before ABC, it was the boys. >> Yeah, the boys. It was the boys. >> And then bad as my extra extra read about everybody want to say they confession. Ah [ __ ] >> man. I want to be in sync. >> You're the one color for that. >> I know. I use bye bye bye bye bye bye bye crazy baby go crazy >> just had them [ __ ] [ __ ] up >> I could sing I tell [ __ ] all the time if I could sing I would not be rapping [ __ ] playing no ball or nothing I'd be singing >> hell yeah I feel you >> take my shirt off any chance I get for these hoes. >> Black and white video. Which one that was? Uh, ladies, which one that was? The black and white video in >> Yes, bro. >> Oh, God. >> go. Man, when that [ __ ] came out, boy, that [ __ ] that's all. I'm telling you, >> that's a different one girl I would hang around, they would listen to that [ __ ] I said, "But these [ __ ] got y'all [ __ ] up." >> Hell yeah. I mean, that's just the way that music motivates you, bro. Cuz I'm telling you, >> instinct [ __ ] Who is this guy? >> You couldn't tell me I wasn't Nelly, [ __ ] That [ __ ] is the that you [ __ ] >> man. Bro, that [ __ ] >> No, I ain't never do that. But did he? >> No, I would I would I would tell you if I did it. I would tell you if I did it, but like No, I ain't never get no vocals. No votes. That [ __ ] just his whole man. And Nelly is the coolest [ __ ] I don't think Nelly get the credit he deserves for them. Like that [ __ ] was running the rap game. He went crazy. >> Running the rap in the Mr. Giants and [ __ ] >> when that dilemma came out, bro. I never heard no [ __ ] sound like that before. >> Like that first and people don't realize that [ __ ] Nelly was talking gangster [ __ ] on them album. >> It was no People just don't listen to what that [ __ ] was saying. Now you hear a radio version and think that [ __ ] was n I'm going down down baby your street in a Range Rover street sweeper baby cop ready to let it go [ __ ] That [ __ ] was talking that [ __ ] on them out. >> Nelly so cold he text the [ __ ] on the spreadsheet. >> Remember that dilemma video? >> Hell yeah, [ __ ] I know exactly what you talking about. [ __ ] had that goddamn whatever that [ __ ] was. >> I tried the little bandage pack. But I got the wrong tried that [ __ ] I got the surgery when that bit come and you did the [ __ ] off the ghetto boys. I bought the wrong one, bro. I was a stupid little baby. Hey, we interrupt this program with a special update from Prize Pics. Prize Pics just made it simpler for new users. Just go to the app. That's the Prize Pics app. Use promo code 85 South and you can win up to a decent amount of money. I won't even say a number. Just a decent amount. You go on there and you pick your pics or you can just look at somebody's lineup and copy their pics. It's it's up to you. You can follow your friends. It's really social over there and I think you're going to love it. Prize picks. It's good to be right. Now back to the 85 South Show. >> She ready to get that belly rub. >> You know she a freak cuz she got her stomach put up and out at the same time. >> That [ __ ] got me [ __ ] up. >> Uh-uh. >> Hell yeah. >> She want you to role play with that [ __ ] Army matey. I'll find the coach. >> That's it. >> What's your name? >> Big Fine. >> Big Fine. That's what they call you. >> That's what they call. >> You call you that. You lying. >> Let me see you. Let me see you cry. Let me see you. Let me see you. Let me see you. Let them see you. >> Like man the Griselda though like you know what I mean? You West Conway like you know what I'm saying? like that just being in a group or not just in a group but being a family like tell people how to navigate that cuz that's one thing people always ask us like how y'all [ __ ] stay together how y'all [ __ ] stay like what's one of the things that you would say that keep y'all regardless of what you go through that keep y'all locked in >> man definitely the the family aspect I'm saying cuz [ __ ] is real family I my mom be [ __ ] know [ __ ] know each other moms you know what I'm saying uh moms know each other so we might see each other at a family member birthday party. >> So, it's like, you know what I'm saying? Every everything, you know, it's it's the business aspect. You know how when you add business and family [ __ ] can be toxic, but I always remember his family. I never try to put like business like [ __ ] on Wes or Conway with me. You know what I mean? I I never try to be a burden on either one of those boys, man, because we navigating this [ __ ] And I tell people all the time, even though it might look like a [ __ ] doing it perfect, every day is uncharted territory to [ __ ] You know what I'm saying? We never been here before. So, you know, that [ __ ] definitely is a way when it's with family. [ __ ] be stubborn, want to do what they want to do on their own. But I just always remember as family. It's all love, respect, and we was all poor before this [ __ ] >> We could never we could never get rich and fall out of be feeling some way towards each other. I always remember that [ __ ] as family, [ __ ] No matter what, >> keep it. >> Cuz you know how this [ __ ] be, man. You know how this [ __ ] be. >> You know how this [ __ ] be. You know how it beat the new bro. >> But see the black soprano fam. >> Why that? Why that where that come from, >> man? That came from Man, I was in jail when I thought of that, man. I just like I said, I've been rapping for years and years and years. In 2005, I was like one of the top guys in the city that when I was about 19, a long time. So, but I never really made it to the next level. So, when I was in prison for the last time, I kind of wanted to come home and change everything and kind of reinvent [ __ ] So, I just switched the name of what we were already called. And >> it was the same [ __ ] called before. >> Uh, man, rest in peace DJ Shay, man. And it was Buff City Records, man. You know, that's that's the big homie who really like mentored [ __ ] It was called Buff City Records. And I was just telling him like, "Man, we should switch it up cuz that was his [ __ ] in his old regime." You know what I'm saying? He had us, it was the new blood. I'm like, "Nigga, we going to call it this. Just trust me on that." When I came home, [ __ ] like Black Soprano family, like the homies ain't even really want to represent that [ __ ] >> Cuz it was like, "Man, you black soprano and >> you know your [ __ ] was fake hot." You know what I'm saying? So they like, "Man, relax." But I mean, I made [ __ ] believers. That's another thing I tell people about who working in the game. Like, you got to make the people around you believers, man. I'm saying people don't owe you no [ __ ] support. They don't owe you nothing just because they your family or they your friend. You got to make people believers to take them with you on this journey. >> I had to make [ __ ] believers, man. Know what I'm saying? It went from [ __ ] telling me like, "Yo, bro, you need to stop saying that. [ __ ] making [ __ ] hot." Had to tell [ __ ] like, "Man, y'all making [ __ ] hot. I'm rapping. Y'all doing [ __ ] in the streets. I'm rapping." You know what I'm saying? So, made them [ __ ] believers. looked up, everybody wearing the t-shirt, showing up to my shows with me. So [ __ ] like that, that's where it came from. Just trying to reinvent myself, man. Trying to try something different. >> [ __ ] worked out. >> 100%, man. >> Yes, sir. >> 100%. >> Now you're doing [ __ ] that's even way beyond music, man. >> Tell them about some of the [ __ ] you've been working on outside the week, too, >> man. The movie, man. We about to get this movie rocking and rolling. I was telling you, that's why I have it. That's the >> [ __ ] I'm talking about. [ __ ] in the productions, man. He was in the productions, man. >> No, real [ __ ] man. So, this is my first one that I'm like co-directing and that I wrote. So, I I I did I was in a movie before, but it's like trying to learn learn it slow. So, what I did is I'm not going I'm not doing no tour this year. I ain't putting no album out cuz I want to get this [ __ ] my full attention. I want to I want to learn. You know what I'm saying? I want to be >> surrounded by people who who really doing this [ __ ] so I could >> take all the game in so I could be doing this [ __ ] every year. >> Mhm. You got a favorite hood movie? >> Hell yeah, man. >> Which one? >> I would say I have to say my favorite hood movie would be >> Fresh. >> [ __ ] don't do >> stupid dope moves. >> Stupid dope moves. >> Busting stupid dope. Fresh. >> Be killing all them [ __ ] ass like >> fresh. >> I got Somebody got to put me up on game. >> Oh, you got to watch Fresh. >> I probably seen it. I don't know. I don't know the title. >> You seen it with the little black dude. He got the sister and [ __ ] Estabbon. Purple glass. >> They were showing that [ __ ] on we got cable. They were showing that [ __ ] on TV for free. >> For free. Yeah. Back in the day bricks. >> Yeah. >> Hell no. I ain't seen >> Yeah. You know what's crazy? My man >> ended up the what became The Wire. >> It was a show that came on before The Wire that The Wire was based on HB. The corner. The dude that started in the corner. Yeah. >> He's in Fresh. >> Oh yeah. I ain't see Fresh. I saw The Corner though. >> Yeah. >> Damn. >> Now Fresh is a good one. What about you? What's your favorite [ __ ] though? >> Mine? Mhm. >> Money talk. >> I ain't really no hood movie, though. >> I mean I mean >> that's one of my favorites of all time, too, though. >> I can't help it. I can't help it. >> Mine is e. I'm about it. >> I'm about it. >> All right. I got one. I got one. >> About it. >> I got one. Uh >> friendly don't give a [ __ ] about nobody. >> Friendly will kill your mama >> for two, man. >> It was literally the whole summer. I watch bouty about it every day. >> Me too. Every day >> about it. >> Me and X do walked up and said, "I can make a million dollars in two days, nigga." Now that [ __ ] had a million dollars before, bro. My little P class repo. >> Oh yeah. >> Tic Tac is dead. Du. >> What's repo? >> Repo with Michael Blast. Stupid ass and cat and master. >> Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. X told that [ __ ] "Motherfucker, I'm about it." Threw the bullet at the [ __ ] like, "Yeah, you caught that." "Yeah, see if you catch the next one, nigga." >> Oh yeah, I remember that part. Remember that [ __ ] man. That's my [ __ ] >> Like, I'm about it. Like, but just those classic type of movies that you know, the hip-hop slash, you know what I'm saying? >> Can't leave this one out either. >> What's that? >> Ballock. >> Ball. >> This is a great hood movie. Eastiders. That Snoop Dog. >> Oh yeah. A lot of [ __ ] ain't seen the East. >> That's a good I remember seeing that [ __ ] Yeah, >> I [ __ ] with >> You ever go back? You ever go back and watch some like old them old black movies? You ever go watch one of them [ __ ] like >> from the 70s? [ __ ] That was that [ __ ] came out on HBO. That was that [ __ ] >> Yeah. Hell yeah. I watched Willie D the other day. >> What's the one with Bill Cosby and uh Hell yeah. We had to go up. That was that [ __ ] That was that [ __ ] right there. >> Saturday night and let's do it again. Uptown Saturday night is my [ __ ] man. >> Which way is up? >> Oh yeah. Which I ain't never, you know, I c I never seen which way is up. >> Which way is up? >> Yeah, I seen >> that's what the what G >> I mean uh Kansas City man. >> Richard Prior where he played on the character. >> I was going to say Richard Prior >> South Central. >> Oh yeah, >> South Central was >> the original one. >> OG was cold. >> OG son. >> You see you see he did an interview >> the uh the true story of uh >> what's the one people like to hear? These are these are the lords teruc. Yeah. Hell yeah. This is >> the Lord's territory. >> I got a message for you ain't your message, [ __ ] The way I got a message for smoking. >> You got a message for smoking. You smoking. You ain't smoking. Ain't your message. >> Your [ __ ] message. >> Some Chicago [ __ ] Chicago [ __ ] I'm I'mma deal with you later. Yeah. Your best bet better be a deal with me later, punk. Them [ __ ] met at the park and and and had a meeting right before they did what they did. >> Yeah, that was real gang. That was the gang banging [ __ ] >> I see you [ __ ] We going to come over there, man. Go down with these [ __ ] >> Yeah, exactly. Beat the [ __ ] out. >> The gangs used to have weird ass names and [ __ ] back in the day. You know what I'm saying? >> Real [ __ ] >> The outlaws. >> The dragons. The >> Hulk. Like [ __ ] like that. Real [ __ ] >> The spinners. >> You know what's my movie? The Westside Story. Speaking of the gangs and [ __ ] M. What about original gangster? >> That [ __ ] is hilarious. >> Original gangster with Jim Brown with Jim Brown in it. Crazy was a gangster. >> I remember that. I remember that crazy >> Drew. I'm talking about going I'm talking about going crazy. >> Hell yeah. Was your Was you the Black Soprano family? What's your favorite Italian movie? Italian gangster movie. >> Man, I got to go. I got to go. Casino, man. I would say the last [ __ ] I like, but they be saying that [ __ ] not real. >> The uh the last [ __ ] just came out with Robert Dairo. >> The cartel. >> The Irish man. They saying that's not real. >> That's [ __ ] >> Easy. Good fellas. The [ __ ] lit. I hadn't watched Good Fella so many times. >> I watched the the uh the little Mexican cartel [ __ ] that was on Netflix. >> What? The >> Yeah, the Narco [ __ ] Oh, >> that was good. That was good, too. That was good, too. >> It was a lot of reading. [ __ ] >> I ain't never watch Damn. That was a lot of reading, boy. Good fellas, man. Get your [ __ ] shine box. No, [ __ ] Keep them here. Keep them here, >> man. That's my [ __ ] boy. That was roughless when I watch that [ __ ] You got to be roofless. >> Now, what about what about the what about the [ __ ] What about the [ __ ] like the the music movies, them autobiography shits, man. Cadillac Records is one of the coldest [ __ ] Never seen Cadillac. Dream >> Dream Girls. That [ __ ] You got to check Cadillac Records out. >> Like art, but Dream Girl get Cadillac Records. Got you, man. >> You got to watch Cadillac Record. >> Little Walter was a gangster, man. >> Yes, he was growing up, right? So, [ __ ] was going over there and doing his shows, acting like they Lil Walter. He rolled up on some [ __ ] who had a sign and everything. He said, "Which one of you [ __ ] is Lil Walter?" >> I'm Lil Walter. Shot the [ __ ] got back in the car, and drove the [ __ ] off. >> Damn. Yeah, I definitely got to watch Cadillac Record. >> Yeah. I mean, as far as music [ __ ] I don't, man, >> that >> the Jackson's American Dream, man. That guy, the one that came out, that [ __ ] came on TV >> a million times. Real [ __ ] >> He was sitting there watching that [ __ ] But man, man, listen, that's coming up with Jay Weaver. >> Yeah, when he was Michael Jackson. Hell yeah. >> He killed that part, too. CB4. >> He killed that [ __ ] >> CB4 is a classic. >> CB4 CB4 like that. >> Hell yeah. >> I'm wacky D. That [ __ ] got nerve and I'm black y'all. And I'm black. And I'm black, y'all. >> That [ __ ] came out on that [ __ ] came out on a box. We ordered the [ __ ] and watched that [ __ ] I remember that [ __ ] >> You just said something with the box, boy. Box was the [ __ ] boy. I remember, man. My mama beat my ass for ordering crossroads on the box. >> Hell yeah. Hell yeah. >> Order crossroads on the box. You got me that bill came. She like, "But what the [ __ ] is this $7 on my bill?" I'm like, >> she used to come on all day, [ __ ] >> We used to order [ __ ] We used to wait for other people to order that [ __ ] We got in trouble though. We picked up that phone a couple times. >> They put that number in like, "Yeah, they ready to play bone." >> Boy, I was on that goddamn crossroads so hard on the box, man. >> Like do you like being a rapper like is there anything that like of all the old shows being a real spitter? Right. >> Mhm. >> What would you have wanted to be on if you could be on any show that that you know what I mean? From the from the >> the rap cities to the to the you know what I'm saying? The MTV your MTV raps. Like is there anything that you would have? >> Definitely the basement. >> The basement. You the one that's been in the >> Definitely the basement, man. We would have went crazy in the basement. We would have made a movie down there, man. We missed that era. >> Definitely the basement, man. >> Damn, that would have been crazy. >> I mean, shout out Shout out my boy, man. Going through it, man. Shout out my boy, >> Mr. All right. All right. Never mind. >> Shout out my boy, man. My boy, man. We Hey, >> shout out my boy. >> Hey, man. Yeah, we we >> How do we end up here, man? >> Yeah. I mean, it was the basement. >> The basement. We know what I mean. For sure. >> Well, here you piece of good [ __ ] >> I The way you smacking on it here, I believe you, [ __ ] You you crushed that [ __ ] >> It was all right here. >> They put a little love on them [ __ ] They thin. God damn. They done got st with this [ __ ] >> You ever uh surprised yourself with a verse? Like you ever went in and listen to some [ __ ] back and like, "Oh my god, I was Where was I at on that one, >> man? Hell yeah." Cuz sometimes I write [ __ ] and I'm like, you know, I ain't going to say that I'm I'm offend [ __ ] or or a lot. Every time I say that and I keep it, it's some dope [ __ ] and say [ __ ] [ __ ] You know what I'm saying? So just just going there saying what I want to say, man. I love that [ __ ] There's nothing off limits. Saying what I want to say. I get in the studio. I get to I drink a whole bottle of Don Julio, smoke 30 blunts and >> put some verses together. >> Damn. >> Not literally. Not literally. >> Suicide to drop the >> Not literally, but I drink a lot of that [ __ ] >> I drink a lot of that like [ __ ] >> You going to make it hit I drink a lot of that [ __ ] Get in there and I get to cooking. Boy, >> [ __ ] with D. >> Hell yeah. >> Damn. I can't get drunk for [ __ ] >> We don't drink over We don't drink at all. >> I'm going be real. I ain't never going to brown. I only drunk white. >> I ain't never drunk brown. I was scared. >> That's That's a good thing. That's a good thing. >> [ __ ] >> that brown was a was a dark era. Boy, >> every time I saw somebody brown, >> but I didn't even I think the worst the brown ever that E that Urkin jerk that E and J. Oh my god, >> that's a make [ __ ] up decision. >> What's that other [ __ ] That Paul Mig that Paul, boy, >> everything you said it was a bad Jason. >> I ain't seen a bottle of that years. >> Oh yeah, you got to reach down to get the >> I ain't seen a bottle of that [ __ ] in years. >> Down here in the liquor store. You got to go down to get >> You got to been down to get the Palmer son. >> You sure? >> Yeah. Like you want that. >> It's good. You never [ __ ] with the brown. That that era was dark, man. >> See, I thought I was doing Let me tell you how lame I lame when it come exclusive. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. Big B. >> $21. Okay. I come to start a party with that. >> And it's going to start a party. >> Exclusive. >> Bottle of exclusive. >> Big X on that [ __ ] Do it. >> Oh, no. I ain't never seen that before. See, I went through the air with the with the the Nuvo. [ __ ] was walking around with shampoo bottles of liquor, [ __ ] with big ass pink nuvo bottles and hypnotic. >> I remember that [ __ ] Hypnotic. No, them was that was liquid heroin. >> That was crazy. >> Well, I remember we I drunk a four logo boy. Never mind. >> What happened? What happened? >> [ __ ] >> What happened when you drunk the four low? We drunk the four loco. I don't know what happened, [ __ ] I remember going to the Burger King, [ __ ] We woke up the next morning, [ __ ] It's Burger King everywhere, [ __ ] We didn't threw this [ __ ] at each other, [ __ ] We didn't threw burgers, waffles, and [ __ ] all on the walls. Like, what the [ __ ] did we do? >> So, none of y'all So, none of y'all drink? >> No. >> Oh, that's good, man. >> Yeah. Nah. Nah, man. >> How long has it been like that for? >> [ __ ] >> Ever? >> Yeah. Forever. Never. Yeah. Nah. >> Y'all just say funny [ __ ] all the time. No. No. No. We don't need it. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? >> Y'all better than me. I make me look bad up here. >> No, it's all good. You got it. Had a fool fight. off the poor loc [ __ ] in a [ __ ] apartment like in a onebedroom [ __ ] this this [ __ ] was like 178 200 square feet [ __ ] we did that there throwing food at each other I don't remember what the [ __ ] happened [ __ ] for a logo my [ __ ] that's why they had >> you know Burger King they make they sandwich messy >> [ __ ] all over onions and [ __ ] everywhere [ __ ] lettucees all type of [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] that [ __ ] man that's why I came that liquor man that waking up not remembering what happened is for the bird >> they had to switch the formula up on that for a local white people was fighting like hell goddamn >> I don't remember >> what they on now what they be what they be doing now >> what white people >> I'm saying what look at they be them cut water shits they say it's shit's not like that >> no for real that's yeah that's what they on now cut water >> but they not they not knowing cut water got the liquor in it too well alcohol >> they cutting this [ __ ] with other alcohol them [ __ ] be thinking they just getting cheap [ __ ] they don't [ __ ] care >> they don't care they just want to get drunk They just be like, "Boy, I'm only cook boy." But your ass on J and juice, mango, and peach, [ __ ] Your ass is >> You don't never know who like some people just drink and get cold. Some people be drinking to get [ __ ] up. >> Yeah. >> And then wonder like, "What the [ __ ] are you going through where you getting this [ __ ] up?" >> Like you want to go to this place to forget your original state of mind. I remember back in the day, >> people get [ __ ] up with no plan or nothing. You just [ __ ] up, >> right? >> And [ __ ] what was that? Cisco and uh what's that other [ __ ] That [ __ ] look like Kool-Aid. Uh >> the Cisco. >> The Mad Dog. >> Mad Dog. >> That Mad Dog 2020 [ __ ] >> Wildish Rose, [ __ ] >> That Wild Irish Rose. >> Wild Irish Rose. [ __ ] was out getting drunk like they was 70 years old. >> Got up on that [ __ ] too. Bad dog 2020. >> [ __ ] told me. [ __ ] was older. He was like, he was drinking. I was like, "Man, let me see something." He like, "Nigga, you you >> got to keep that from me." >> I'm like, "Yeah." He like, "Nigga, do you some alcohol, nigga?" I was like, "What's it?" He like, "20." He like, "Man, your young ass don't drink. I'm skating. I took three sips just cuz he tastes like peach mango." I'm thinking he's just like, "I ain't even give a [ __ ] about the alcohol taste." Oh, that's what I felt the whole time skating around that [ __ ] I'm loose as a goose. I can't even skate. He laughing like a [ __ ] He like, "Look at that [ __ ] drunk here, bro. Fuck." Cuz that's a whole different genre of alcoholic right there. The wineo >> [ __ ] know, all they drink is fruity and [ __ ] and be [ __ ] up all the time. >> No, I ain't never drink no mad dog. Cuz where I'm from, all the old [ __ ] used to drink that [ __ ] That's old granddaddy living, [ __ ] >> Yeah, I never drunk none of that [ __ ] either. That [ __ ] my older brother used to [ __ ] with the wild wild all of that [ __ ] >> Hell no. 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Tell them young [ __ ] cut the music down. Looking at this lineup, Tyrese Maxi, Edge Con, Jaylen Brown for sure is allar. LeBron James at 41 years and goddamn 12 months. Embiid >> is that better than the Knicks right now? >> For sure. >> He going to make them all step up and play like they best game. >> This the best team he done been on with [ __ ] in their prime. >> When people stay hurt like Embiid, I give I have a problem giving them a nod, man, cuz a [ __ ] can't stay healthy. Yes, I know what he can do, but has the [ __ ] done it on a consistent basis? That's what the question mark lies. >> Use that [ __ ] laying on that table like a bad [ __ ] every year. Every year that [ __ ] go get some work done. I don't know for basketball or something. >> Got to lay up in that hotel for a couple. >> But that [ __ ] have a fire on every August. >> Yeah. >> Till October. >> Yeah. >> This year no fire. He ready to play. >> 250 off. >> Say you just play 50 60 games. Long as you ready for the [ __ ] playoffs, >> man. I gotta ask another [ __ ] that you work with that I [ __ ] with. 38 Spec, man. How y'all lock in? You know what I mean? That [ __ ] got that [ __ ] say, "Don't be mad cuz your daughter chose cocaine. I I'm the reason why your daughter chose cocaine, but don't blame me because she got her father's nose." It's like, >> damn, [ __ ] That's some cold [ __ ] to say right there. Like, how y'all link up, >> man? Through through Green Lantern and DJ Shake, you know what I'm saying? Locked in. We was about 20 21. Been locked in ever since, man. >> He from Rochester. I'm from Buffalo. The Upstate Connection, you know what I'm saying? He just put some [ __ ] out. Uh, nine shots. So, just grind it, man. That's why I That's one thing I love about Spees, man. He a [ __ ] He a [ __ ] who going to like do what he's supposed to do in this [ __ ] You know what I'm saying? >> It's a lot of people who who ain't did what they supposed to do, but he a [ __ ] who going to do what he's supposed to do in this [ __ ] Keep the legacy with the bars and just go crazy, man. >> How did y'all decide to name the series Stabbed and Shot? >> [ __ ] The Butcher in 38. You know what I'm saying? Stabbed and shot. >> Stabbed and died. >> And the thing about it, that's crazy. >> And the thing, you know, I thought about that. He came up with it. You know what I'm saying? I thought about it, but I'm like, you know, that's too on the table. The butchering 38, but you know, that [ __ ] stuck. We ain't going to [ __ ] with it. >> 38 [ __ ] special, man. >> What's the white dude? OT. >> OT the real. He crazy. OT the real crazy. >> Real. >> I'm not hip to OT the real. >> Oh, you got to listen to OT the real. >> Okay. >> He gonna love that [ __ ] >> Where he from? >> He from Philly. >> Oh, okay. >> Philly. Yep. That chick telling you he cold though. >> White boy, he talk all that ignorant [ __ ] All you know >> like but that's another thing like getting respect from the the the spitters like the cities like Philly in New York. Like when would you say that y'all started to getting that recognition from the guys who had already you know you got the state properties and the everybody that come out of New York. You know what I'm saying? It's too many to name. So when did you say that y'all got that recognition from the guys that was already established spitters in the game? >> Man, I remember doing uh one of my first biggest shows, sold out show in Philly in 2019, man. And state prop boys pulling up, you know what I'm saying? I remember I did another show and I brought uh brought uh Chic Luch out and I brought uh Freeway out and I you know that's another thing that's more important to me than than a lot of this [ __ ] is the is the know what I'm saying is when your peers >> you know what I'm saying cuz I say a lot >> right >> you know what I'm saying >> [ __ ] with you and who you [ __ ] with. >> Yeah. the [ __ ] who you studied and [ __ ] who you watch had they run >> when they [ __ ] with you know that mean a lot you know what I'm saying so definitely shout out to all the Philly OG G's man around 2019 2020 right before co hit >> saying locked in with those boys man >> was it a run that motivated you like coming up you know you you in that age range when you got to watch it like who run was you like man >> everybody's man definitely the Cash Money run you know what I'm saying definitely the uh the Rockefeller Definitely like you said, Nelly, that [ __ ] was impressive. >> That [ __ ] was impressive. You know what I'm saying? In the middle of all the New York [ __ ] you got the what's popping and n that was my [ __ ] >> Yeah, >> you know what I'm saying? So definitely watching that run, man. I I would say No Limit too, seeing all of that [ __ ] man. >> Hell yeah. Hell yeah. I remember like watching on on Rap City when uh when Currency saying he was telling the story how Master Pulled up on him when he was at the bus stop and signed him when he was 16. >> I'm saying I was like damn I wish that was me. >> I was like damn. >> But I remember that man. I love I love the uh the no limit run all that [ __ ] man. >> Just a fan of hip-hop. I think that matter. These [ __ ] don't be fans of they don't be fans of the music no more. >> This [ __ ] just be a straight hustle. I get it though. That's why it don't bleed through like it like it should or I feel like that's why the game is in a is kind of positioned that it's in. You know what I'm saying? Where >> it's oversaturated. >> Yeah. And the artist is really not in control of this [ __ ] You know what I'm saying? Because it's a hustle now. You can't knock [ __ ] >> Yeah. >> Ain't no limit was crazy. [ __ ] you open that CD up. It's 30 other CDs is great. Come out >> 30 other [ __ ] >> [ __ ] is dropping tomorrow. >> All the covers look the same and [ __ ] >> Yeah. You ain't never heard of this [ __ ] young [ __ ] from up the street. Drop it tomorrow. >> But that's how the [ __ ] go though. That's how it be. Man, you remember Master P drop heaven for a gangster. >> That's my [ __ ] >> Mhm. >> That's my [ __ ] >> But it it was like you either got it or you didn't, right? >> Yeah. Hell yeah. >> Is that heaven for >> gangster gangster? That was a movie. >> This day heaven for grew up in the ghetto raised by a killer. T you cross my stomach. Your neighbor but good drug killer. >> This [ __ ] was so straight to the point, bro. It was so straight to the point. That [ __ ] ain't leave no room for that [ __ ] Master. I'm from the ghetto was raised on eggs and meat. That [ __ ] took one of the most righteous black songs and made it a ghetto anthem. Sitting in the ghetto thinking about all my home is passed away. >> It was a classic too. Class me and my boy. How could it be a boy from me? >> These are like you said, these dog [ __ ] these all [ __ ] that they got to know cuz like you said, this [ __ ] dropping tomorrow. Who is these [ __ ] even seeing? These all [ __ ] who they grew up with. >> Yeah. >> You got that money right with those [ __ ] >> But just that hustle in itself, like that's one of the ones that, you know, being from DC, like we never had, especially me growing up, we never had a major rapper. We was go go town. But the music influenced the go- go music so much that you know the go-go bands would redo the rap song and that would make you go listen to the the song that they got it from. Like Nory got a song called I love my life and back y'all redid that [ __ ] and I just found out like two weeks ago that that was a Nory song. I had no idea. I've been singing the back version the whole time and they got that [ __ ] from Nory. So it's like the music is so infused in the culture for us that it's hard not to, you know, it's kind of surprising rather that >> [ __ ] don't have the same sentiment now. >> Like where do you think it got dropped off at? Do you think it was an era where [ __ ] stopped giving a [ __ ] to where people stopped caring about the music? >> Man, I I think it was, man. I think it was, man. I think a period of time rappers start coming out and it wasn't about the talent no more. It was about the persona. It was about, you know what I'm saying? Which, like I said, which is cool cuz we black people. We cooler than a [ __ ] >> [ __ ] so cool. We don't even know how to even know how to rap, [ __ ] >> Right. >> So, I think that era, man, that make people look at it as a hustle. Like, you know what? I'm about to get this [ __ ] money. All the dope boys, [ __ ] in the studio. First, they was paying for studio time for [ __ ] You come to the studio, the dope boy, he in the booth. >> I think it turned into that. You know what I'm saying? Around I don't know, man. Maybe around 200 eight around that time. I don't know, man. >> Makes sense. But that's one thing I love though cuz you know I had that sentiment about it but I love it at the same time because [ __ ] is cashing out getting the bread off of it. >> Yeah. And getting out the streets. >> Exactly. I'm saying that's important streets. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. For sure. >> Are they supposed to these these [ __ ] acting like they don't want to get out the street? >> No. We was just talking about that. >> [ __ ] act like they want to leave this [ __ ] >> Get in the rap game to get in the streets. It's like [ __ ] you did you hustling backwards. >> You supposed to do all that [ __ ] before you got the record deal. Now you want a brick >> cuz now cuz now all them cuz all the gangsters get the brick. >> All the gangsters and the dope boys who didn't let them [ __ ] come around let them [ __ ] hang around. Now you cool. You got you got a hit on the radio. >> Now you cool. Now you can come around. Them [ __ ] was never allowed around them [ __ ] before >> ever. >> So now they doing dumb [ __ ] they never even had the opportunity to do. >> Well, I know one thing. If you ever really did any of that [ __ ] you know the last thing you want to do is that [ __ ] >> You don't want to do that [ __ ] man. That [ __ ] is for the birds, my [ __ ] If you outside and you [ __ ] are [ __ ] is crazy, man. Like be crazy, man. I dropped the hardest [ __ ] album >> and then on the next song I'm singing like a [ __ ] [ __ ] has zip up boots on the inside and shirt all unbuttoned. I be making You heard that [ __ ] Tiger did. >> Oh yeah. Hell yeah. >> I gave you racks. >> Taking it back to the 80s. Be creative. >> Billy Ocean 2.0. >> What he say? >> Yeah. >> But you got to hear the song. He got >> you know like it's like that's the [ __ ] he just dropped. had to cover that's out now and it's swiping cards and stacking chips. I said, "Oh, you stacking ships." >> Me standing. Yeah. Caught me standing in the pouring rain. Now I got a heavy diamond chain. >> No, >> my rush is getting thicker. >> Pock is getting quicker. >> You ain't heard that [ __ ] That's not Tiger. That's another [ __ ] >> That ain't taking over though. Taking over. That's That's the hot one of the hottest. That and spin that [ __ ] is the two hottest songs out right now. >> Who is that person? >> Uh, hold on. I'll tell you that. Stacking chips. I think it's named Phoenix some [ __ ] I'm not Phoenix flexing. That's what it is. Swiping carts and stacking chips. I saw you sinking [ __ ] >> Yeah, you got you hear that song. That [ __ ] everywhere right now. >> White. >> No, he black. He was in the uh the uh >> uh uh the shorine >> shorine mafia. >> What? >> Yeah. Shoreline Mafia out the west coast. But yeah, it's just the creativity. I'm laughing, but I can't wait to go on vacation and be somewhere beautiful >> on a boat or some [ __ ] >> cars and little sandwiches with the edges and [ __ ] cut off. >> Great all this. >> Yeah, but see that's why >> money talk much louder now. >> I can't wait to go through the night. >> That's a definitely a vacation song. Definitely a vacation song. But y'all think I'm tripping when I listen to Nat King Co. No, you ain't tripping when you listen to no king. That's >> roasting on fire. >> That's the only black man that made Christmas music. [ __ ] we be what time it is, man. Play that king. >> That's a big reason why I respect them because y'all came out with a sound that nobody was doing. This [ __ ] don't sound like nothing else. That's one of the things I appreciate about rap music. Like the music that's coming out like Milwaukee right now. This [ __ ] don't sound like nothing but Milwaukee [ __ ] I love that. I love I think that's one of the things that's missing in the rap game, the cultural sound. Like >> you need more variety of [ __ ] >> Yeah. You would be able >> back in the day. We used to listen to all this [ __ ] All that one came from >> [ __ ] That [ __ ] will go from >> Eric B and rock him to >> Twister to Big Daddy Kane. We need that variety variety of being able to to have a distinct sound. Memphis didn't sound like Atlanta. Didn't sound like New York. Didn't sound like California. Didn't sound like the Midwest. like so Texas all of that [ __ ] and then they will you would be able to get together and make music that is timeless but you still had a definitive sound that come from your area. That's one of the things that y'all did. So salute to y'all for redefining a sound like that's what's missing in the game. >> That's what they said. >> You know what I mean? >> What's the next move? The movies. >> Yeah, the movies, man. The movies is the next move. [ __ ] And I tried the sports agency [ __ ] >> What you mean? >> You did? >> Mhm. >> [ __ ] must got start. >> No. No. It was just, you know what I mean? It's a I just got to come back for it. We got to team up and do that [ __ ] You know what I'm saying? >> I know what it was. You walked in them NBA meetings with that Pyrex pot around your neck. It was like, >> we don't need any more of those. We know what you Black Soprano family, huh? Yeah. Okay. All right. Yeah. Are you the one dunking? No. All right. See you. Some guy in your office said his name is Benjamin the butcher. >> It was definitely a little >> You want me to put him want me to put him Benjamin the butcher? >> You want me to push him through? >> You got to get acclimated with those [ __ ] with the suits. You got to get acclimated with the suits. >> Got to dress the paw. >> It do be crazy though when you when you do meet the big [ __ ] in charge. It's never who you think it is though. >> Yeah. And I eventually, you know what I want to do though? I eventually wanna want to manage a wrestler. You know what I'm saying? We see Wes doing this [ __ ] with the fourth rope and [ __ ] like that. >> Yeah. If you want to manage a wrestler like uh like Bobby Heenan [ __ ] like Bobby the Brain like that type of manager with you and you know what else Vinnie the Butcher has to tell you >> that he's going to come down to the ring. That type of manager. >> Not not like not like really hands- on like that. >> Okay. >> But like that though like that though. >> Yeah. That be dope. I ain't never thought about that position like [ __ ] P. Oh, the Undertaker. >> Oh [ __ ] >> Oh, my Undertaker is coming. >> The Paw Bear, right? >> What's other names? The Jimmy Jimmy Jimmy come down with a bull. >> His nickname was the mouth of the mouth of the sauce. The mouth of the sauce. >> That's crazy. >> Now that's crazy. >> What about Mankind? Man K had no manager, but he was just fired every man. That was Dude Love. >> If you think about it, that's kind of [ __ ] up though. >> His whole persona, he was a funeral director. >> Yeah. >> Yep. Paul Bear. >> Paul Bear, man. That was just >> He played the [ __ ] out. He scared of the Undertaker. He played the [ __ ] out. Terrified. >> Paul Bear made him scared cuz that [ __ ] the way he would talk about the little children are in bed. this [ __ ] >> Get the most diabolical detail about this [ __ ] >> He carried a with him. >> Yeah. >> And then he would lift it up and every time he lifted it up the Undertaker will pop up like this [ __ ] is >> that was like especially West Gun like the the wrestling references like you know what I'm saying? Like >> one of his songs when my mom passed away I listen to Mr. see every day. Like that just >> it's just that just resonated. The sound of that song resonated with me. But like do all y'all have that love for wrestling? >> I'm going be honest with you. I think Wes is definitely far more the biggest wrestling fan. You know what I'm saying? As a kid, I watched that [ __ ] You know what I'm saying? I got a little older I stopped watching it. But to be honest with you, like seeing him do what he do with the fourth rope [ __ ] >> that [ __ ] just, you know, >> explain what the fourth rope is. >> The fourth rope is it's a wrestling brand. You know what I'm saying? This is This is like anything else. It's like WWE's like uh [ __ ] TNA, >> you know what I'm saying? And >> and it's Westside Guns, you know what I'm saying? It's his own wrestling brand. And he's partner with TNA. He got wrestlers. They wrestling on TV. They do this [ __ ] overseas. They just did Essence Fest, >> you know what I'm saying? >> [ __ ] wrestling at the >> Hell Essence Fest. >> He He had event in Philly. >> We should have went to this Essence Fest. [ __ ] wrestling down there. That one [ __ ] was playing the horn, tap dancing, singing at the same time. When we >> That [ __ ] when we That [ __ ] went crazy. That [ __ ] told him when we >> That [ __ ] took that deposit and told him it was a group. That [ __ ] ain't want to return that deposit. >> That [ __ ] said I >> He delivered. >> Yeah, that [ __ ] delivered. Boy, >> bro, I play that [ __ ] That [ __ ] tank top with me. >> Hey, bro. That [ __ ] was talented as hell though, wasn't he? >> Yeah, he was. >> He was playing the trumpet. >> He was playing the trumpet. That [ __ ] >> god damn. God damn. Godamn. >> That [ __ ] said, "Oh, godamn. Godamn. >> That's how hard you got to work to make it out here, man. You got to do everything. You got to do everything. You got to do everything. People don't realize that you got to do every [ __ ] job. Anything. >> If that don't sum up 2026 for us, Oh my god. >> Hell, boy. I swear I think he dropped to the hill, boy. >> Was that the wrestling? >> Hell yeah, man. It's enough die that hard wrestling fans for that [ __ ] will never go out of st. >> Always going to be a bag. >> Oh, the wrestling [ __ ] Hell yeah, >> man. They love that [ __ ] >> All you got to do is get in shape. But them [ __ ] be working. >> Especially in the mid south. >> 11 months out. Yeah, >> man. And got one month to recuperate. That [ __ ] Westside Gun funny as a [ __ ] man. Like that [ __ ] be replying to [ __ ] that people say on the internet, bro. That [ __ ] be hilarious, man. It's this [ __ ] named Zip with the drip. >> Zip with the drip was talking about Westside Gut. >> Talk about the way he sell [ __ ] right? The way he rap. That [ __ ] Westside Gut put the cops. He said, "You talk about me while I'm overseas on a world tour and you sitting in a funeral home lobby." >> Damn. That [ __ ] he was in the funeral. >> Damn. I ain't know I ain't know Wes and Zip went back and forth too. That [ __ ] he was sitting in a funeral lobby. That [ __ ] Zip couldn't do [ __ ] but say that's hilarious my [ __ ] You know what I mean? So yeah man like just that that you know I just I'm a fan of y'all. Carway man for show man. That that [ __ ] like >> that when that [ __ ] came out him and Fetty [ __ ] them two the when I first saw them [ __ ] I was like oh my these [ __ ] is dead serious. I remember on the video when they panned up the Fetty Wap and this [ __ ] turned with one eye. I was like, "Oh, he going to make it." So >> he ready. You know what I'm saying? Like them [ __ ] is is different, man. It's different. And salute to for Conway to come through that [ __ ] he went through. Like was you around during that time when that happened? >> I had just got out of jail when >> just got out of jail. Okay. >> You know what I'm saying? I just got out of jail. So I was around. You know what I'm saying? That was crazy. But it was like you said, it was crazy seeing him like, you know what I'm saying? He got shot in the head. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So, it was crazy seeing him like work his way out of that. >> At first, I seen him all bandaged up, walking on a cane, >> and I just seen him just to the studio doing this [ __ ] >> I'm saying, gradually getting better, seeing him fly, and then wearing jewels and then doing videos. I'm like, okay. >> Yeah, >> it was a journey for him. But definitely came out of that [ __ ] >> This a clip like to show how long y'all been rapping. This a clip of him rapping before >> and that [ __ ] I'm like, "Oh, them [ __ ] been nice forever." >> Right. Right. Man, you have to be in this [ __ ] for a minute to for it to start making sense. >> Oh, we don't we know it, [ __ ] I'm telling you. You say a lot of people don't want to go through the not good stage. >> Yeah. You got to you got to follow, man. >> You got to go through the fire for this boy. >> Yeah, for sure. >> And then once you get through the fire, you think, "Oh man, I'm good." But if you stay in there, it be so sweet when you stay in there to go from being the brokeest you ever been in your life to having the most you ever had in >> just knowing like, damn, all them days where you just going through that [ __ ] trying to figure it out. Once you get it figured out though, it's just like that [ __ ] >> That's why you when you get through the fire, like you said, even though it's another five, now you know how to get through a fire. Don't even look at how to navigate that [ __ ] >> You know what I mean? You know how to navigate. He was like, "Oh, [ __ ] I know how to not I know how to stay away from this [ __ ] now, and I know how to do this [ __ ] now." But you got to go through it to figure that out. If you quit, you just going to stop at whatever level you ended at, and that's all you going to ever know. >> Quit going to be a [ __ ] ass [ __ ] >> man. You can't quit. >> Can't quit. >> Can't be in your DNA. Quitting ain't don't do nothing. You got to be looking for failure. Failure, you got to alter how you look at failure. Failure is how you learn. You don't know [ __ ] Go in here, bump your head right quick so you can know what going on. But just execute. >> That's what it's about. It's about action. It's about doing, >> right? >> Like you said, that's how you learn. It's about trying to do this [ __ ] >> Here say don't quit. Don't quit if you got talent. But some of you [ __ ] need to stop. >> I'mma keep it real. >> That's if you wasting time. >> Yeah. Some of you [ __ ] >> [ __ ] who wasting time, sit your ass down. >> Stop. You have to wait. If you really got something and you know you working with something, don't quit then. But >> you ever you ever seen somebody like this [ __ ] need to just quit this? >> Yeah. But see, that's the thing. Ain't nobody telling them like, "Nigga, cuz he the mother." >> Oh, this is [ __ ] up though. This is [ __ ] up. >> That could be the one that make it. >> No, I'm telling you, sometimes when you be like, "Man, this [ __ ] quit." >> Sometimes that be the [ __ ] that break through. >> Fact. >> Mhm. >> They been work that one mood. I'm talking about just they got one. They They don't work this one a thousand times. >> They found the right [ __ ] where that [ __ ] can prosper. >> Can you think about the chaa man? Somebody brought to him chill. to the left. >> What you don't know was >> [ __ ] was doing that wherever he was at for 10 years before the world got it. >> They was mad that the world got it. They was like, "Man, that was our shit." >> I remember when this [ __ ] community was loving that [ __ ] >> It was like cuz we were looking for a new cha but we weren't really looking for a new side. We won, but we won. And it was just so happened this [ __ ] came out of nowhere and [ __ ] this [ __ ] took. This cha cha [ __ ] >> in the first church. >> You got to think about the church. >> Which one came first? The song or the [ __ ] dance? >> Because the song told you how to do the dance? >> The song did tell you how to do the dance. >> So you mean to tell me this [ __ ] went in the booth and had a whole [ __ ] dance made up and he hadn't even seen the [ __ ] together? I got for do this [ __ ] [ __ ] would make it up. Like how you do that part >> this way. You [ __ ] everybody up. >> Charlie Brown. >> What the [ __ ] was the Charlie Brown? >> Who know how to do the Charlie Brown? >> Who know you? You can't do the Charlie Brown. Charlie Brown. >> You have to keep doing the try to do the Charlie Brown. >> On that song and still to this day, hands on your knees. Hands on your knees. Like what? >> That's a twerk. That's a twerk. That's [ __ ] >> No, it's the new [ __ ] they got. What's the new [ __ ] called again? >> The new [ __ ] like that that they got. >> Now >> with the trail, what's it called? Trail trail round [ __ ] >> Oh, I got the >> Oh, you talking about I got my boots on the ground. >> Yeah, that that type of [ __ ] They got the boots on the ground. They got >> that had an impact, too. But it was like hot. >> It's so many It's so many line dances, man. Like, it's so many of them [ __ ] it's like it's one out of Chicago called the bus stop. >> Like, and you see these [ __ ] do the bus stop. This [ __ ] cold in the morning. >> Oh, you do the bus stop in Buffalo. That's one of them [ __ ] Hell yeah. The bus stop. >> The bus stop. >> I don't know how to do it, but I know it. I know the dance. I mean, I know what the dance is if I see it, but I ain't nobody ever told me. >> It's kind of like a variation of the electric slide. >> 100%. 100%. >> How you do the bus stop? I ain't never seen this culture. We talking about y'all. Y'all got to put us down. >> The bus stop for sure. It's so many. >> You got a song to it, too. Do the bus stop. >> Yeah. >> I go look this [ __ ] up. >> You know what had America in a choke hole, [ __ ] The hustle with black people. >> Do the hustle. Do the hustle. The >> cocaine days, too. >> The cocaine days. >> Yeah. Hell yeah. >> That [ __ ] took so long to come on. That [ __ ] was on the coke early. Do it. About to dance on the coke. Do it. That [ __ ] there, man. >> But yeah, that that to me dance really was the one that [ __ ] was whoever made that up now. It's just you go to a party now, they break that out. Yeah. >> Doing that that to me dance to >> when I think about you. >> I ain't never seen nobody successfully do that [ __ ] in real life. You >> scared of dance? >> I have. >> I think all the >> I have I went to the Essence Festival. I seen a whole arena do it the same. I ain't got no [ __ ] They just created that [ __ ] You know how long that song been out, >> man? Oh yeah, it just came out. >> But they just created some [ __ ] on that bush. >> Yeah, just not too long ago. >> Well, they just So the song been out, but they made a dance. >> They made a dance to it. Revamped the song. Made it seem like, you know, the Tama dance, man. Y'all just came up with the >> Tika dance. It's called Tama Tama. >> We making this [ __ ] up on the spot. Black people, >> you just made up the Tama dash right now. >> That's what I'm saying. The Tama [ __ ] the Tamika dance. >> Remember the song? >> Somebody make that [ __ ] up. Watch. Next thing you know, somebody going to be doing the Tama dance from the 85 South Show. >> Black people ain't never going to run out of dances. >> Never. We come up with >> never. How much [ __ ] we done came up with? >> We came up with all this [ __ ] >> The butterfly. That's old. Let me see that twisting roll. >> It was nothing wrong with the butterfly. It's the same The strippers weren't complaining like we tired of doing the butterfly. Why did we replace the butterfly with the tissue rope? >> That [ __ ] dissed that [ __ ] But that's old. >> That [ __ ] came on the track, bro. >> At least these [ __ ] cared enough about you to tell you what needed to happen for the dance to be complete. N >> dip, baby. Dip. Come on. Dip, baby. Come on. Come on. >> [ __ ] think a hype. >> Then they have What's the other [ __ ] though [ __ ] had? But they only had that one record. >> Who? Who them? >> The butterfly on the uh >> Yeah, I think it was just that one. >> Yeah, >> [ __ ] still probably get a show and get a bag off >> right now. But you the ye play that [ __ ] right now, boy. That [ __ ] go crazy. >> And the Space Jam song get up and slam. All right. Do you do >> you already know what I'm talking about too? You know what? They wouldn't never play that [ __ ] in no club. >> You lying. >> That [ __ ] was >> That was some kid [ __ ] >> That was some kids [ __ ] >> We was g off that [ __ ] bro. When they play that [ __ ] we like do your dad. >> We didn't even know what the space was. >> They playing that [ __ ] at no black club. They play that [ __ ] at the white club. >> You go to the white club, they going to play that. Then the next song will be who let the dogs out. Who let the dog that [ __ ] >> what have turn >> that that song right there. >> That's why I love how Lil John came back when they hear that >> with all the [ __ ] songs. >> I like how he came back with them songs. >> Oh yeah. Well, Lil John Yeah. But see that [ __ ] was violent than a [ __ ] Beat a [ __ ] ass in this [ __ ] talking like [ __ ] for real >> listen bro you had to know how to fight during that era >> what's that one [ __ ] >> had to >> damn when they when they talking about damn I don't I don't know the words >> mean when he's talking about mean mugging walking through the club what's that [ __ ] you know you know that [ __ ] you talking about uh >> what's that [ __ ] y'all >> when you walk up in the club >> no not it's not Lil John it's up in >> somebody know that [ __ ] >> [ __ ] he told you them [ __ ] was going to do [ __ ] >> damn what it say like it say some [ __ ] like stare at a [ __ ] bump into it. It's some [ __ ] I'm like, >> look got some [ __ ] that >> the [ __ ] they playing that [ __ ] >> Mafia, [ __ ] >> The first line of the song. >> What? >> You scared. You scared. >> Stop acting like a [ __ ] You scared. >> Yeah, that [ __ ] used to get [ __ ] [ __ ] up for real. >> I had to, bro. >> That should get [ __ ] [ __ ] up. >> That was that club era, [ __ ] >> Put your hands where your fist [ __ ] scared of no [ __ ] in your [ __ ] click. If you make eye contact doing this, that mean I will whoop. >> They were just telling [ __ ] [ __ ] >> [ __ ] [ __ ] you could never ever ever ever get on my level. >> What? What? What? What? What's your level? >> The level was, "Bitch, you can't get on my level, so stop tripping." >> That's always been some Dirty South [ __ ] though. You don't remember a ball and MJG, >> right? >> Bust a [ __ ] head, slap a hoe, shoot the club. >> See what I'm saying? >> Those my [ __ ] right there. Use >> now that era definitely got [ __ ] [ __ ] up. P [ __ ] be in a club when that [ __ ] going on. >> They used to just park [ __ ] going this side. [ __ ] was listening to that hell. Yeah. Playing in the club. >> You won't hit a [ __ ] >> [ __ ] would go on this side. [ __ ] part then start rumbling when that [ __ ] crazy. >> That song started some [ __ ] gave you every instruction to whoop a [ __ ] ass. >> I bet you won't hit a [ __ ] Hit a [ __ ] [ __ ] >> Huh? Huh? I bet you won't push a [ __ ] >> Who won't? >> Boy, tear the club up. >> Yeah, >> I got [ __ ] beat, boy. >> I thought it got I mean got [ __ ] beat up, too. Boy, that could >> you looking at me? >> I said I'm see like [ __ ] be normal soon. that [ __ ] Come on. Hit the mute. I said you I represent it's 199. >> Yeah. They label me a drill. Yeah. >> I'm >> I mean I'm all Look here. Let's h like listen that [ __ ] style ever. >> He had his own style. >> P had the most simplistic rhyme scheme of all time. [ __ ] that [ __ ] P was saying, boy, man, that [ __ ] by top five. That [ __ ] P got a stall call. He just kept time to check my crack. How's my crack? How's my crack? Time to check my crack. How's my crack? How's my crack? Time to check my crack. How's my crack? How's my crack? Time to check my crack. How my crack? That's the hook. Yo, Pete Gret, it's time to start checking [ __ ] I'm the wrong [ __ ] in the to be [ __ ] with. >> What about that, Mr. Ice Cream, man? That's what I'm saying. That was your [ __ ] ice cream, man. Yeah. Before you jump in the game, let's get one thing understood. If you're selling it ice cream, you got to make sure it's good. Mr. Ice Cream Man. Moby Dick. Paul. >> That was right. >> His name was Moby Dick. >> That [ __ ] >> you know why it worked? Cuz you stayed true to his name. Every time he sung something, it was about getting some [ __ ] pretty much. Dang. >> Yeah, that [ __ ] I always feel like somebody watching me. >> Oh, that was him. >> Yeah, that's Moby Dick. >> Damn, I thought it was a girl. Hey, man. >> Moby Dick, man. That [ __ ] got an album. That [ __ ] need to listen to that album, man. That's a classic album right there. At least to me >> for real. >> You know what I'm saying? Hell yeah, [ __ ] >> Them albums changed the South, man. Cash Money and No Limit. No limit then. Cash Money. That was the order. >> Yeah. Right. >> Yeah, man. >> Right. Cuz it's still women right now who are upstanding ladies in the community that got that no limit tank tattooed right here on their thigh big. >> Mhm. >> The whole >> It's probably a lot of >> And there's some few women in the south that we was partying with back in the day. We know they got a tru tattoo on them somewhere. >> You know what I was putting it right here on the titty >> and that's a part of the rap game that don't exist no more either. Remember the video vixens? >> Like that bus video vix. >> No, but that's what I'm saying. And like I'm talking about back in the day when it was >> them hoes was like stars. >> Yeah, they was stars. I remember the first time Buffy the body slept. >> Then that tip drill video that tip drill video was supposed to be on the Spice channel. >> That [ __ ] [ __ ] swiped that credit card down. That [ __ ] ass on BET. I was like, "This can't be on BET right now." >> I mean, I know it's 2:30 in the morning, but god damn. >> I always And that ludicrous [ __ ] too. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to [ __ ] popping on know about that that Uncut BT Uncut. If they keep bringing >> What about the other shits that used to be on there? >> That was my [ __ ] >> What's the one [ __ ] from Alaska? >> Girl running through my mind, >> man. The DC [ __ ] had one on there. That was my >> Used to be a [ __ ] named Joker, man. He from Alaska. >> Yeah, Joker. The bells boss. Used to be that [ __ ] >> Damn. Freak >> [ __ ] was out for real. [ __ ] was watching that [ __ ] [ __ ] was watching her cut. Them DC [ __ ] had that [ __ ] that time for freaky. Time to come clean in them tight ass jeans. You know what I mean? Bongo Versace Paris. >> I remember that one. >> Who you freaky assho? >> Damn. >> It's time to get freaky, >> bro. Missing them [ __ ] every time. >> Negative. >> I fall asleep. I saw it coming. >> Yeah, you tripping. Nah, cuz that that [ __ ] used to come on when everybody get home from the club. So if you still up, you probably going to watch some BT boy. >> I mean, I used to be watching that [ __ ] in jail. The TV up there, you know, in jail. You got >> You got to watch that [ __ ] in jail. >> Hell yeah. The good co but it's it's at night 3 in the morning. >> Boy, I know [ __ ] >> [ __ ] got the headphones. I ain't even got no headphones. I'm just I don't know what the song say. I'm just watching that [ __ ] >> No headphones. >> Talk about the [ __ ] that you got to go through in jail. >> But you remember what used to come on right after Uncut. What? >> Pastor Kernney top. >> He said, "Come right on right after that." Crazy. >> But God, >> what you say? Los >> that [ __ ] Then Peter pop off. The white dude come on a little bit for like him. That [ __ ] was selling them prayer cloths, man. >> Peter pop off. >> He making I remember that miracle spring water on that [ __ ] Yeah, get you a miracle spring water and you'll be right there where you need to be with God. Miracle spring water. >> They me got grandma selling all sending all the money in getting rich >> [ __ ] Miss Cleo, >> they buy the spring water from Peter Papa >> prayer claw. >> The spring water [ __ ] don't work. Grandma >> used to had the [ __ ] phone sex lines. I remember my man, my man, my man had was on them phone sex lines, man. His [ __ ] phone bill in his mama house was like two grand, bro. >> In the '9s, [ __ ] This [ __ ] ran up like $2,000 in charges on phone sex lines, man. But I'm like, [ __ ] she going to kill you, Slip, who are you talking to? He He >> [ __ ] was in that dial in the [ __ ] every day. Every time I knock on this [ __ ] door, he >> was saying it again. Yeah, >> this [ __ ] talking about >> what you what you going to do? What you going to do? I'mma suck your dick. You see you like your freak ass. >> You know how freaked out you got to be to call and just talk that [ __ ] >> You don't know who on the other end of that phone. >> People don't care. >> They have to pick who you want. Rebecca 36 double D. pressed for >> you the call what the mother >> my stepb brotherther did though >> I believe it exactly what step brother used to call all them [ __ ] >> I ain't got time for it >> time hasn't changed so much though man >> right >> it's over coochie's out here y'all >> it's out here coochie >> out here out here you ain't got to do no got to get on that phone no more like that >> they had walking >> see but I said you done been to jail before I know you're on the phone game smoothed in a [ __ ] Hell yeah. >> That [ __ ] boy. I'm talking all types of moves. >> This [ __ ] >> You did two years twice. >> Mhm. Then I did like a And then I did like a a year before. I did like a bunch of little stints. >> Still a little stint, [ __ ] 30 minutes. That [ __ ] >> My hardest my hardest time ever in jail was I went to go do four months. That was my hardest time ever in jail. >> Every day was long in a [ __ ] >> because the other ones I was young. This time I was I was grown. I had a wife, you know what I'm saying? The [ __ ] left. >> Damn. The 4 months. >> I was still I was going in the jail before that. So by the time I did the four months, the relationship >> that was it. That was it. And then it was the shortest time she left off. Like you have stuck around for six years. >> Hell yeah. >> Four months. Damn. >> Damn. >> So that was So that four the little four months that [ __ ] was tough. That [ __ ] was tough. [ __ ] was done with me. You know when you come home [ __ ] barbecue. This time [ __ ] barely pulled up on me. Yeah, they thought you going to keep going back like we ain't going to keep using our stamps, [ __ ] >> Real [ __ ] That's how it was. That's exactly how it was. >> [ __ ] you, [ __ ] >> Real [ __ ] >> man. [ __ ] that, bro. I got a family to feed. They ain't going to be looking out for you. You keep coming and going. >> But like you said, my phone game. I'm saying I got good phone game. >> That was important back in the day. [ __ ] used to do this back in the day. We used to uh write all the girls numbers down and [ __ ] Of course. >> Yeah. >> We used to have that [ __ ] Call that [ __ ] a chickary. >> You know what I'm saying? All the girls number that was a good one. >> Hey man, let me see your chickary real quick. >> Real [ __ ] >> Damn. This [ __ ] said >> I'm scared on this. >> Now you have you have How old is you? >> Me? I'm 34. Oh, >> you have phones ever since you know what I'm saying? Y'all have phones? >> No, [ __ ] I grew into having a phone around like the same grade. >> Seventh grade. [ __ ] didn't have phone till they was grown. That's young [ __ ] Seventh grade. >> I mean [ __ ] you what, five year older than me. So yeah, you would have been grown while I was in the seven. You just got there 18 just now having a phone. Ain't my fault. >> No, bro. Sure. I was 18. First get a phone. >> 18, right? See what I'm saying? >> I got a phone before I was 18 cuz I bought that [ __ ] Yeah. >> I started buying my own [ __ ] at 13. Wanda wasn't playing. She was like, "Nigga, I'm responsible for what you need, not what you want. Whatever you want is on you." So, I start getting money early. >> When I got my first phone, it was >> it was still at a time where it was controversial. Like, if you had a phone, your family was like, "Oh, Lord, he's selling dope." He got a cell phone. I know he's selling dope. >> [ __ ] my first cell phone was with MCI. >> I remember that. >> MCI was my first sale. I >> probably had a pager first. I I had to hide it cuz they thought I was selling dope. >> Yep. >> Had to hide the pager. My uncle went to jail. Every time my uncle would go to jail, I'd be walking around with that [ __ ] pages on in elementary school off >> [ __ ] faking like I had a page on, [ __ ] And then when he had one, the green, the lime green one. I never forget my little brother still got that [ __ ] That [ __ ] still light up. But that [ __ ] used to light up and look like it worked. Oh, you couldn't tell me [ __ ] Hold up. >> Having the phone. >> Yeah. Listen, >> the pag phone. Come on, man. >> With the phone, you was a bad [ __ ] >> When I had my pager, it was $9 a month. >> No, >> cuz when I first got it, it was $17 a month. Then they was it was fading out. Them [ __ ] dropped to like $9 a month. And I still had the little phone joint probably with the $500 500 minutes a month. Probably that's when the [ __ ] was high as hell. That phone bill was probably damn near $200 for the little $500 a minute. >> Them next tail chirps hit. Boy, I got one game. >> Boy, I got one of the goddamn walking talk. >> That's all it did. But that's you were lame as f. That's that's we talk about the cell phone errors, my [ __ ] Like we went through so many eras of this. Like this one probably lasted the longest. The iPhone as far as just the consistency because >> Noia No, we walking talking. You ain't have to charge your Noia all weekend. That [ __ ] had them seven little battery bars on the side. >> You ain't had to charge your Nokia. >> Well, that [ __ ] about every snake on that [ __ ] [ __ ] >> [ __ ] had razor was a good air. I had a razor. >> Razor was a good arrow. had that good old razor no more. >> What about the sidekick? >> I a sidekick. >> Sidekick. >> Naught chasing the school with them [ __ ] >> Got to kill that [ __ ] >> I'm from the old school. >> Remember that [ __ ] >> I had no kid with face plates on them [ __ ] >> Oh yeah. >> The [ __ ] that you just swang right here. >> [ __ ] had the the swivel on that [ __ ] >> What [ __ ] The orange sweater. The orange face plate. [ __ ] with the Come on, man. Oh, you match yellow sweater. >> Come on. Oh, it's the weekend. Let me put the money face on that [ __ ] cuz money this weekend, >> [ __ ] What? Every outfit the face. You had a face plate, [ __ ] >> That That was everybody. >> I remember they was selling different [ __ ] for no kids. >> Different face. >> I remember the money one too. >> You know the [ __ ] when you was getting money though, you had your [ __ ] just all the way see-through. So when your phone ring, you can see the all the lights. >> But I ain't like when the numbers was off. >> I hit you back, bro. >> Get closed. >> N the er that's crazy to me is the Bluetooth era, [ __ ] [ __ ] was walk. >> I ain't never get with the Bluetooth >> with the Bluetooth they [ __ ] The Bluetooth [ __ ] That [ __ ] was crazy slim. The whole Bluetooth. >> I ain't never snapped the Bluetooth area. >> This [ __ ] still walking around with the [ __ ] [ __ ] looking like truck drivers talking on the cell phone. >> Oh yeah. >> Hello. >> Over with >> Hello. Hello. Look man, you know we had to get you some of this cold player [ __ ] >> Oh man, gifts. I love it. >> Know we had to get you some of this cold play. >> Appreciate y'all fellas, man. >> We got appreciate you, man. >> Clothing line emporium. You feel? >> I appreciate that [ __ ] brothers. >> Of course, young brother, man. We know this your first time stopping through the trap. Don't let this be the last time. >> I'm coming back, man. I'm coming back shopping with y'all, man. >> The movie drop. You know what I'm saying? Appreciate y'all boys for having me. You know what I'm saying? >> I ain't one of them [ __ ] who ain't going to throw the shirt on, too. I'm throwing this [ __ ] on. >> Oh yeah. You know, some [ __ ] don't even be wearing the [ __ ] >> I'mma throw this [ __ ] on. >> They be giving it to their girls and [ __ ] I'm like that. >> Nah, you know what's going to [ __ ] us up when we see that Asian lady in that [ __ ] at the curry out somewhere. He like, "Where you get that shirt from?" Like you be seeing [ __ ] with Delta Sigma Theta shirts on white women and [ __ ] You like, "Man, where you get that shirt?" They be giving them away for sure. >> That's crazy. >> Y'all [ __ ] are crazy, man. 85 South Show. Benny the Butcher. We out there, B. Take a photograph, guys. >> Oh [ __ ] >> What's up, fool? Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat. N. What's up y'all? 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