IT'S THE BUTCHER! W/ CHICO BEAN, KARLOUS MILLER, DC YOUNG FLY, & BENNY THE BUTCHER
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In this episode of the 85 South Show, hosts Chico Bean and Karlou Miller are joined by DC Young Fly and Benny The Butcher for an in-depth conversation about their careers, origins, and the cultural significance of hip-hop from Buffalo. While acknowledging that cities like New York often overshadow others, the group highlights how Buffalo has produced influential artists who deserve recognition, potentially earning a spot in the Music Hall of Fame. Benny shares his personal journey of reinventing himself from "Buff City" to The Black Soprano Family after being inspired by Lil Wayne while incarcerated, emphasizing that maintaining family bonds and mutual respect is essential for their longevity despite industry challenges. They also discuss favorite films such as *Fresh*, *Boyz n the Hood*, and *Goodfellas*, reflecting on how these stories resonate with themes of struggle and resilience found in music.
The dialogue shifts to studio habits and the evolution of the music industry, where the hosts note that they avoid alcohol while recording to maintain clarity, contrasting this discipline with past eras when artists consumed mixed spirits like Four Loko or Hypnotic leading to chaotic behavior. They observe how the landscape has changed from a niche craft requiring genuine talent to an oversaturated market where many claim ability without possessing real skill, urging artists to stick to their expertise rather than chasing trends outside their lane. This reflection extends to nostalgia for 1990s club scenes and BET's *Uncut*, recalling explicit music videos aired late at night alongside religious programming segments featuring Peter Popoff selling miracle spring water, as well as personal anecdotes about expensive phone sex lines from the '90s and jail experiences watching shows like *Buffy the Vampire Slayer*.
Beyond hip-hop history, the group explores various cultural touchstones including dance culture, contrasting old-school line dances with newly invented moves created spontaneously in studios. They analyze influential rap eras such as Master P's No Limit Records and Cash Money Crew, noting how those artists turned music into a viable hustle while maintaining distinct regional sounds—a quality now often missing when persona overshadows talent. The conversation also touches on the evolution of mobile technology, moving from early pagers mistaken for drug-dealing signs to expensive Nokia phones and modern smartphones with Bluetooth earpieces, before discussing specific models like the Sidekick and Razr featuring interchangeable faceplates.
The segment concludes with reflections on perseverance through hardship, learning to navigate failure, and maintaining authenticity despite industry changes, alongside a brief discussion of upcoming Philadelphia 76ers games involving LeBron James's team. The hosts promote Blue Chew Gold for male confidence using promo code "85 South," OT The Real as an emerging artist gaining respect from peers like State Property around 2019-2020, and DC Young Fly's independent streaming service Channel 85 offering early access to content with a six-month discount via the code "85enter." Viewers are also directed to contact bookings@85southshow.com for professional booking inquiries as the show wraps up its celebration of artistry, community hustle, and enduring creativity.
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We make it hot.
>> Mhm.
>> But [ __ ] the cop.
>> Yeah,
>> I know you got some [ __ ]
>> I do.
>> That beat just switched up on me.
>> He He want that other beat.
>> He want that Once Upon a Time beat.
>> Once upon a time, man.
>> Oh, that's what you rapping to. I guess
I tell you the rest then.
>> Okay,
>> I'll tell you the rest.
>> That what we doing? You storytellers,
huh?
>> Yeah, [ __ ]
>> Okay, then. Hey,
>> you should play the instrumental in this
[ __ ]
>> That's what I'm saying. What you want to
do? Play the instrumental. The [ __ ]
you the producer. We got the
instrumental.
got beat.
>> Oh, he got [ __ ] He got [ __ ]
>> Yeah, he got [ __ ]
>> Okay.
>> Oh [ __ ] This [ __ ] stop playing. Yo yo
yo yo yo yo. Uhhuh.
I fig
like they
[ __ ] you know it. Never going
to show it. Everybody in this big war.
Let's blow it out. [ __ ] want to
handle. I ain't even playing no games.
You know it's scandals when I'm not
involved. [ __ ] standing tall.
Yes, y'all.
>> Yes. Yes, y'all. I'm about to fall.
Don't even have to stall. Pick up the
phone, left her all alone, and then I
had her waiting on my call. Yes. Now,
let me kick it.
>> Funky fresh.
>> Came through with a girl with a
hairstyle and some nice breast.
>> We're wearing gas.
>> I made her study with her buddy for the
test. My name is Lois. Okay.
>> I kick it high.
>> The girls like me. I'm a real nice guy.
It's a nice try, but that's a lie. I
like my fish sandwich baked, not hot
fried.
>> Okay, let me go ahead get my turn. But
let me tell you, listen, I take my side.
I know face, I know case, I know sh. So
let me go ahead switch the plates and
let me go ahead and switch the pace. I'm
switching the flow. [ __ ] around, I
get in the door. You know what? I said
it slow.
>> Let me go ahead and
>> I swear this [ __ ] sound like it came out
in '94.
94.
>> That [ __ ] stupid, bro.
>> Would have went like
that. That was crazy.
>> We would have made it in like 91.
>> Oh, that was out of here.
>> That was all right. Your turn, [ __ ]
>> Yeah.
Your third.
>> I don't know how to freestyle, man.
>> The [ __ ]
>> You know, you know that's a damn lie.
>> You know, it's a damn lie. I'm in my
40s. We all know how to rap. Everybody
already know how to rap
>> for sure.
>> Everybody, man, you don't want to hear
me freestyle.
>> Why we don't?
>> You want to hear you freestyle? You want
to hear me? You I go pee. Do it.
>> Hey, flock them [ __ ] stalling. You
already know we still backing. Yeah. And
the birch something she's calling. I
don't know what she wants to say.
>> Hey,
you already know. I said, "Let me play
some
way." I got nothing. I don't even know
what to say.
Let's play.
>> Hey, man. Well, you sound just like them
[ __ ] man.
Sound just like them [ __ ]
>> Man, you never know who might pop up in
the trap, man.
>> When you over here with the 85 Samo, you
never know who might pull up.
So today, man, we got a very special
guest in here with us, man.
>> Yes, sir.
>> Cold ass [ __ ] man.
>> What we doing,
>> man? Wrap his ass off, man.
>> Huh?
>> Business man, man.
>> You feel me, man? All the way up out of
Buffalo, man.
>> Yes, sir.
>> None other than Benny the Bushes, bro.
>> Thank y'all fellas for having me, man.
I'm a big fan.
>> I'm a big fan, man. I love y'all boys.
>> Fan of yours, man. You know my [ __ ] is,
man. That [ __ ] say I remember listening
to Woo in ' 95.
>> Got my first strap from Conway in 99.
Paper I was trying to find. What he say?
Paper I was trying to find. That summer
I learned how to rob. Got in one
shootout and my homie quit on me and got
>> a job. Real true story.
>> True story.
>> So he said [ __ ] this [ __ ]
>> He said [ __ ] that [ __ ] He got any he
got a good paying job now. And that was
about like 20 something years ago.
>> Real true story
>> for sure.
>> Crazy man. 99
>> 99
getting money in 99.
>> I really wasn't getting money. I was
just starting.
>> [ __ ] That was still good time to get
started.
>> [ __ ] you know, salute to the Knicks
and the New York Knicks
and all that, but
>> you know, you from Buffalo, man. Like
>> Mhm.
>> You know, that's one of the places that,
you know, don't really get recognized or
didn't get recognized before y'all put
y'all stamp down, man. Like
>> what does it mean being from Buffalo
being one of the faces if not the face
of Buffalo?
>> I mean it's crazy because like you said
ain't nobody never came out that
[ __ ]
>> I like to say they going to build
schools after [ __ ] when it's all over.
But it's just we we the first man. We
the nobody got an example of
entertainers coming with rappers coming
out of there. So we the first that
represent this type of culture. You know
what I'm saying? First rapper there with
a with a plaque. You know what I'm
saying? So [ __ ] like that just means so
much. It's just bigger than it just
bigger than us. You know what I'm
saying? You know how this [ __ ] go. 20
years they going to talk about it all
the time. You know what I'm saying? So
that [ __ ] definitely mean a
going into the [ __ ] Buffalo
Music Hall of Fame and [ __ ] That mean a
lot to me. You know what I'm saying?
>> Y'all already They didn't already put
y'all in there.
>> No, they uh
>> they scheduling us. They want us there.
You know what I'm saying? They want us
there. So
>> [ __ ] like that, man.
>> Did y'all see it back in the day? Cuz
y'all was y'all really from out the
gutter. Like a lot of people don't know
Buffalo is one of them places like [ __ ]
go. You'll see.
>> Maybe you'll see.
>> You think it's just wings and the bills?
No.
>> Them [ __ ] is out there, too.
>> Did y'all when back in the day when
y'all was out and and you know, living
like we all come from the hood living?
Did y'all see it,
>> man? I want to say
>> the vision.
>> I want to say I did see it, but I ain't
see this [ __ ] Westside Gun, he had the
vision. I feel like he saw, but man, I
ain't see this [ __ ] I just I just did
the [ __ ] cuz I love it. It's so crazy
cuz Tip asked me this. He said, "What
made y'all [ __ ] keep rapping and going
when you had no signs that the [ __ ] was
working?" You know what I'm saying? I
couldn't answer that. I don't know.
[ __ ] did that [ __ ] cuz they loved it.
[ __ ] on robot mode. Feel like that's
what you're supposed to be doing. But
[ __ ] ain't have no signs and just no
nothing. That's what we love to do, man.
I tell people my block, I'm from
Montana. It's that block. It's a group
from my hood, Killer Brown. And they
went to the Apollo. You know what I'm
saying? That was some big [ __ ]
>> Them [ __ ] at the Apollo. So he was my
homies who lived down the block from me.
>> So small [ __ ] like that just motivated
the [ __ ] You know what I'm saying?
>> But we ain't see it.
>> We see
trying to get unbanned.
>> Unbail
after email.
>> Yeah, we get back.
>> It's just [ __ ] up that you know we
banned from that history man.
>> Y'all kill it up there too.
>> We got banned after that.
>> Oh [ __ ]
>> It was after we got banned after that.
>> [ __ ] Y'all did
>> us.
We took the blame.
>> No, it's all good. It's all good, [ __ ]
[ __ ]
>> Damn.
>> No, Buffalo. When the last time you been
up there,
>> man. I just was up there. What the end
of last year at the uh Healing Comedy
Club? But I love Buffalo, man, cuz it's
like one of those places where,
>> you know, I always say in this country,
man, it's a lot of places that people
don't know [ __ ] is is living and
active and got culture. And
>> you know what I mean? Buffalo is one of
those play the whole upstate New York.
Like a lot of people don't recognize the
Rochester and the Buffaloos and you know
what I mean the Albies and all
facts. Like we didn't been up through
all them places. You know what I'm
saying?
>> Y know cuz y travelers. Y'all know that
[ __ ]
>> I ain't never been to Buffalo when it
was warm though.
>> No, I only been when he need
you might not never be in that
[ __ ]
>> That the most white people ever at my
show.
>> What? The Buffalo show?
>> Remember we did the Buffalo show at the
uh at the
>> 99% white. Yeah, we did that [ __ ] at the
>> But you know what? It's a just like you
said, it's definitely a white city, but
it's one of them places like it's the
hood is out that [ __ ]
>> Sure. Get busy though.
>> Doing music and being on tour. I pop up
in places. I'm like, where the [ __ ] all
these [ __ ] came from?
>> I'm saying you in a small town. Real
[ __ ]
>> You know what I mean? Omaha, Nebraska.
>> Bunch of [ __ ] out there
>> like that. Like that you wouldn't think
that our presence is there, but we
there. And it's culture there. One place
that shocked me when I first started
going is Milwaukee. Like Milwaukee is
one of the most cultured places you
going to find in this country, man. them
[ __ ] do they own everything. But it's
not till you go there to see cuz if you
don't like I was just saying you don't
have somebody to come out and narrate
the story then people don't know. That's
why it's a big salute to Griselda cuz
y'all narrated Buffalo story and people
now know that it's more to New York than
just the five burrows. You know what I'm
saying?
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. For sure.
>> [ __ ] need that motivation, man.
>> One of one of my favorite places though
was I love Virginia, man.
>> I love the whole the whole [ __ ]
Virginia. Richmond.
>> Oh yeah.
>> [ __ ] Norol.
>> The whole Yeah. the seven city. You
know,
>> I love that whole [ __ ]
>> Salute to the seven cities.
>> A lot of black people out there, too.
>> Yeah, [ __ ] One of the Boy, if you
ain't never been to Portouth, [ __ ]
>> Yeah. Poor Smith. Yet those
[ __ ]
>> It was scary.
>> Boy, Portith.
>> Yeah. But all that, [ __ ] The whole all
all seven of the cities. Nor all of
them, [ __ ] It's the hood is out there.
But it's love though. And you don't got
to be That's the thing I say. You ain't
got to be scared to be amongst your
people, man. Especially if you doing
something to give to the people like we
>> we building culture. So they want that.
They want you to come and and [ __ ] with
them cuz usually people don't go through
there.
>> So you know what I mean? Even for you to
say Virginia like what made you fall in
love with Virginia though as a [ __ ]
that been all over.
>> Man, coming from coming from a place
like Buffalo and
>> and seeing like you know us having like
one side of the city
>> just like man that [ __ ] is black down
there. You know what I'm saying?
>> Black brothers and sisters doing good
for themselves looking beautiful. You
know what I'm saying? You know, I admire
that [ __ ] You know what I'm saying?
It's it's a little deeper to me because,
you know what I mean? It's like, like I
said, my city, you know, is the east
side is predominantly black. North is
white, uh, south is middle is lower
class and, uh, black people. The west is
the poppies and [ __ ] like that. So, it's
like a lot of times like we don't have a
lot of things for us there. So, times
when y'all [ __ ] come to the helium,
trust me,
>> that be the litter [ __ ] going on. You
know what I'm saying?
>> 100%. That's a fact. Right.
>> So coming to VA, seeing that [ __ ] and
they [ __ ] with the music. They kind of
like they kind of like identify with
Buffalo because even I'm pretty sure
producers and a bunch of artists came
out of there, you know, they still feel
they feel like they one of them cities
with that chip on their shoulder.
>> We ain't got our [ __ ]
Yeah. And it's so much Missy and all of
that, but still my [ __ ] credit they
deserve.
>> You know what I'm saying? Uh
[ __ ]
>> family. All them [ __ ] man.
>> Man, what's my [ __ ] name? I forget this
[ __ ] name, man. Kino. My [ __ ] Kino.
Kino. Yeah.
>> My bad, Kino. [ __ ] Hi, guys. It's the
weed.
>> But man, when do you feel like it
started making sense to
>> I feel like I feel like it started
making sense. It made it started making
sense real quick to me. I went from a
projects to the next week I was on a LA
rooftop having a meeting fresh from the
project. I was on a on a tour with the
locks and when that tour finished I went
home to the projects. So like it made
sense for me like right after I got off
that tour I'm like damn you know this
[ __ ] real. You know what I'm saying? And
then next week I uh basically like moved
to Atlanta with West. I moved out here
week we was in the [ __ ] LA at the
rooftop meeting. Two weeks later we just
sitting at a parking garage in Detroit
with Eminem and a in a cipher and [ __ ]
>> So I'm like no this [ __ ] real. I'm about
to get out the hood. That's what I was
thinking. Like
>> I'm out the hood. Out of there. I'm out
of this [ __ ]
>> How they wore this in a cipher with
Eminem?
>> It was crazy. You know what I mean? The
whole time that's what I'm thinking.
>> Like, you know what I'm saying? For the
BET Awards, I'm thinking like, damn.
>> You know what I'm saying? And that was
that was that was that was when I knew.
I'm like, you know, this [ __ ] about to
it's about to go further than than what
I expected. You know what I'm saying?
>> Eminem with the push. Paul Rosenberg,
the whole Shady Records at the time.
Mike uh Mike Haran, shout out to Shady
Records. That's when I knew, like I
said, I'm coming straight from the
[ __ ] projects in the middle of
that [ __ ]
>> Straight to the fire.
>> Be good.
>> Do y'all feel like, let me say this. Do
y'all feel like this with comedy? Cuz
this how I feel like with rap.
>> I always been like the best, one of the
best in my city, in my neighborhood.
>> But when I evolved and kind of got in
the industry, it's like everybody was
good. It's like it's like going to it's
like going to the league. It's like
everybody was fast and could jump high.
Everybody had bars and [ __ ]
>> You know what I'm saying? I went from
there be a room like this. I'm like the
only one. You know what I'm saying? I
did time in jail was like I'm the only
[ __ ] in the yard who was who could spit
at the level. But when I start being
around, you know, independent labels and
[ __ ] like this, everybody could rap.
[ __ ] wind up with [ __ ] from [ __ ]
Kansas City, Missouri. It don't matter
where the [ __ ] they was from. Everybody
was nice.
>> Is it the kind of same with the comedy?
>> Oh, hell yeah. You'll meet a
[ __ ] who don't nobody know.
>> Mhm.
>> Crazy.
>> Smoking [ __ ]
>> Smoking smoke your ass.
>> You feel me? He made you, boy. You
better go good. You don't want him to go
before you. But it's like them be the
ones you learn from where like it ain't
really just about all the success. It's
more so about the craft and the art.
>> And I think we got lucky cuz we came in
on Wild and Out which is like [ __ ] it
was they bringing comedians from
everywhere every day that's trying to
something. So we got to operate in that
space to be able to test your skill set
against [ __ ] every single day.
>> You know what I'm saying? For a job for
a job. Like you know what I'm saying?
That was the best thing about Wilding
Out to me though.
>> Did that [ __ ] so good that it looked
like it was easy,
>> right?
>> Then [ __ ] come on there and be
like, "Damn, I don't know how y'all do
>> do this [ __ ] right?" And I'm sure it's
the same way with the rap
>> cuz even though you know [ __ ] is nice,
once you get to get that formula
together and get to putting it together,
that's one of the things I want to ask
you like because y'all [ __ ] rap like
and that's not necessarily the the the
climate of the game now.
>> Like what made y'all say, "Nah, [ __ ]
that. We gray come with the the sound of
just [ __ ] the boom bap and we just gray
talk [ __ ] on these beats.
>> Man, I feel like cuz you know Wes had
the vision for one and I feel like
that's what we good at. You know what
I'm saying? Honestly, man, I experiment
experimented with music all kind of
ways. You know what I'm saying? Cuz like
I said, I'm 41. I've been doing this
[ __ ] I've been a fan of hip-hop for my
whole life. So, I experienced all type
of music. You know what I'm saying? I
trap wrapped. I You know what I'm
saying? That [ __ ] y'all was just doing,
I did did that [ __ ] So it's like,
you know, we just stuck to what we was
good at, man. I think that's important.
You got to stick to where you good at
and instead of trying to jump in other
[ __ ] lane. You got to be the boss of
your lane. You know what I'm saying?
That's one thing I love about this [ __ ]
>> We not fighting for a spot in and in and
nobody else lane. You know what I'm
saying? We just occupying our lane at a
high level. So, man, just just the fact
that we knew we was good at it, man, and
just keep doing what we was good at even
when even when the response, what I'm
saying, really wasn't there, you know
what I'm saying? Just the talent was. So
just keep pushing, man. That's all I
could say. [ __ ] be asking me like,
"Yo, bro, how I do? How you doing?"
Like, you just got to keep going, man.
>> You just got You really don't even know
what to tell a [ __ ] cuz it ain't a
manual for this [ __ ]
>> You know what I'm saying? It's just
don't stop
>> before you meet somebody who want who
who can help you take your talent to the
next place. You know what I'm saying?
Before you bump into your next
opportunity.
>> Mhm.
>> What motivated you? Like who you were
listening to that made you be like, "You
know what? I'm going to jump into this
shit."
>> Man, I was listening to uh [ __ ]
everything. Mob Deep. Uh, I was
listening to [ __ ] uh I don't want to
say the regular names. We all listen to
Cross the Nas Jay's and everything, but
like half [ __ ] like Half a
Mill.
>> Mhm.
>> You know what I'm saying? You know, you
know what? I tell people this story all
the time. Like Lil Wayne.
>> Mhm.
>> And not even like the Lil Wayne
everybody know like like back in the day
I used to I used to go to school down
here and [ __ ] and they was like, "Yo,
you know Lil I was like in eighth grade.
He was like, "Yo, you I was rapping in
the gym. They like, yo, you ain't better
than Lil Wayne." I'm like, "Who the [ __ ]
is Lil Wayne? Go get him." You know what
I'm saying? They was like, it was like
it was a tape. Real [ __ ] It was like
it's a tape. They showed me the tape and
he was young.
>> So,
>> like [ __ ] like that where he was like a
young guy rapping about my age and [ __ ]
I'm like, damn. I want to do with this
[ __ ]
>> I don't curse in this verse, man. [ __ ]
>> Exactly. You know what I'm saying? I
want to I'm going to do what this [ __ ]
doing. Another bad creation. That [ __ ]
inspired the [ __ ] out of me,
>> man. What?
>> Aisha,
>> that had the game [ __ ] up.
>> I wanted to be like them [ __ ] man.
Come on,
>> man.
>> Hell yeah. I ain't even going to hold
you. Now that you say that, [ __ ] it. I
said I wanted to be an immature [ __ ]
>> All right.
>> ABC going to hold you, [ __ ] I
>> remember before ABC, it was the boys.
>> Yeah, the boys. It was the boys.
>> And then bad as my extra extra read
about everybody want to say they
confession. Ah [ __ ]
>> man.
I want to be in sync.
>> You're the one color for that.
>> I know. I use bye bye bye bye bye bye
bye
crazy baby
go crazy
>> just had them [ __ ] [ __ ] up
>> I could sing I tell [ __ ] all the time
if I could sing I would not be rapping
[ __ ] playing no ball or nothing I'd be
singing
>> hell yeah I feel you
>> take my shirt off any chance I get for
these hoes.
>> Black and white video. Which one that
was? Uh, ladies, which one that was? The
black and white video in
>> Yes, bro.
>> Oh, God.
>> go. Man, when that [ __ ] came out, boy,
that [ __ ] that's all. I'm telling you,
>> that's a different one girl I would hang
around, they would listen to that [ __ ]
I said, "But these [ __ ] got y'all
[ __ ] up."
>> Hell yeah. I mean, that's just the way
that music motivates you, bro. Cuz I'm
telling you,
>> instinct [ __ ] Who is this guy?
>> You couldn't tell me I wasn't Nelly,
[ __ ] That [ __ ] is the that you [ __ ]
>> man. Bro, that [ __ ]
>> No, I ain't never do that. But did he?
>> No, I would I would I would tell you if
I did it. I would tell you if I did it,
but like No, I ain't never get no
vocals. No votes. That [ __ ] just his
whole man. And Nelly is the coolest
[ __ ] I don't think Nelly get the
credit he deserves for them. Like that
[ __ ] was running the rap game. He went
crazy.
>> Running the rap
in the Mr. Giants and [ __ ]
>> when that dilemma came out, bro. I never
heard no [ __ ] sound like that before.
>> Like that first and people don't realize
that [ __ ] Nelly was talking gangster
[ __ ] on them album.
>> It was no People just don't listen to
what that [ __ ] was saying. Now you hear
a radio version and think that [ __ ] was
n I'm going down down baby your street
in a Range Rover street sweeper baby cop
ready to let it go [ __ ] That [ __ ] was
talking that [ __ ] on them out.
>> Nelly so cold he text the [ __ ] on the
spreadsheet.
>> Remember that dilemma video?
>> Hell yeah, [ __ ] I know exactly what
you talking about. [ __ ] had that
goddamn whatever that [ __ ] was.
>> I tried the little bandage pack. But I
got the wrong tried that [ __ ] I got the
surgery when that bit come and you did
the [ __ ]
off the ghetto boys. I bought the wrong
one, bro. I was a stupid little baby.
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>> She ready to get that belly rub.
>> You know she a freak cuz she got her
stomach put up and out at the same time.
>> That [ __ ] got me [ __ ] up.
>> Uh-uh.
>> Hell yeah.
>> She want you to role play with that
[ __ ] Army matey. I'll find the coach.
>> That's it.
>> What's your name?
>> Big Fine.
>> Big Fine. That's what they call you.
>> That's what they call.
>> You call you that. You lying.
>> Let me see you. Let me see you cry. Let
me see you. Let me see you. Let me see
you.
Let them see you.
>> Like man the Griselda though like you
know what I mean? You West Conway like
you know what I'm saying? like that just
being in a group or not just in a group
but being a family like tell people how
to navigate that cuz that's one thing
people always ask us like how y'all
[ __ ] stay together how y'all [ __ ]
stay like what's one of the things that
you would say that keep y'all regardless
of what you go through that keep y'all
locked in
>> man definitely the the family aspect I'm
saying cuz [ __ ] is real family I my
mom be [ __ ] know [ __ ] know each
other moms you know what I'm saying uh
moms know each other so we might see
each other at a family member birthday
party.
>> So, it's like, you know what I'm saying?
Every everything, you know, it's it's
the business aspect. You know how when
you add business and family [ __ ] can be
toxic, but I always remember his family.
I never try to put like business like
[ __ ] on Wes or Conway with me. You know
what I mean? I I never try to be a
burden on either one of those boys, man,
because we navigating this [ __ ] And I
tell people all the time, even though it
might look like a [ __ ] doing it
perfect, every day is uncharted
territory to [ __ ] You know what I'm
saying? We never been here before. So,
you know, that [ __ ] definitely is a way
when it's with family. [ __ ] be
stubborn, want to do what they want to
do on their own. But I just always
remember as family. It's all love,
respect, and we was all poor before this
[ __ ]
>> We could never we could never get rich
and fall out of be feeling some way
towards each other. I always remember
that [ __ ] as family, [ __ ] No matter
what,
>> keep it.
>> Cuz you know how this [ __ ] be, man. You
know how this [ __ ] be.
>> You know how this [ __ ] be. You know how
it beat the new bro.
>> But see the black soprano fam.
>> Why that? Why that where that come from,
>> man? That came from Man, I was in jail
when I thought of that, man. I just like
I said, I've been rapping for years and
years and years. In 2005, I was like one
of the top guys in the city that when I
was about 19, a long time. So, but I
never really made it to the next level.
So, when I was in prison for the last
time, I kind of wanted to come home and
change everything and kind of reinvent
[ __ ] So, I just switched the name of
what we were already called. And
>> it was the same [ __ ] called before.
>> Uh, man, rest in peace DJ Shay, man. And
it was Buff City Records, man. You know,
that's that's the big homie who really
like mentored [ __ ] It was called Buff
City Records. And I was just telling him
like, "Man, we should switch it up cuz
that was his [ __ ] in his old regime."
You know what I'm saying? He had us, it
was the new blood. I'm like, "Nigga, we
going to call it this. Just trust me on
that." When I came home, [ __ ] like
Black Soprano family, like the homies
ain't even really want to represent that
[ __ ]
>> Cuz it was like, "Man, you black soprano
and
>> you know your [ __ ] was fake hot." You
know what I'm saying? So they like,
"Man, relax."
But I mean, I made [ __ ] believers.
That's another thing I tell people about
who working in the game. Like, you got
to make the people around you believers,
man. I'm saying people don't owe you no
[ __ ] support. They don't owe
you nothing just because they your
family or they your friend. You got to
make people believers to take them with
you on this journey.
>> I had to make [ __ ] believers, man.
Know what I'm saying? It went from
[ __ ] telling me like, "Yo, bro, you
need to stop saying that. [ __ ] making
[ __ ] hot." Had to tell [ __ ] like,
"Man, y'all making [ __ ] hot. I'm
rapping. Y'all doing [ __ ] in the
streets. I'm rapping." You know what I'm
saying? So, made them [ __ ] believers.
looked up, everybody wearing the
t-shirt, showing up to my shows with me.
So [ __ ] like that, that's where it came
from. Just trying to reinvent myself,
man. Trying to try something different.
>> [ __ ] worked out.
>> 100%, man.
>> Yes, sir.
>> 100%.
>> Now you're doing [ __ ] that's even way
beyond music, man.
>> Tell them about some of the [ __ ] you've
been working on outside the week, too,
>> man. The movie, man. We about to get
this movie rocking and rolling. I was
telling you, that's why I have it.
That's the
>> [ __ ] I'm talking about. [ __ ] in the
productions, man.
He was in the productions, man.
>> No, real [ __ ] man. So, this is my first
one that I'm like co-directing and that
I wrote. So, I I I did I was in a movie
before, but it's like
trying to learn learn it slow. So, what
I did is I'm not going I'm not doing no
tour this year. I ain't putting no album
out cuz I want to get this [ __ ] my full
attention. I want to I want to learn.
You know what I'm saying? I want to be
>> surrounded by people who who really
doing this [ __ ] so I could
>> take all the game in so I could be doing
this [ __ ] every year.
>> Mhm. You got a favorite hood movie?
>> Hell yeah, man.
>> Which one?
>> I would say I have to say my favorite
hood movie would be
>> Fresh.
>> [ __ ] don't do
>> stupid dope moves.
>> Stupid dope moves.
>> Busting stupid dope. Fresh.
>> Be killing all them [ __ ] ass like
>> fresh.
>> I got Somebody got to put me up on game.
>> Oh, you got to watch Fresh.
>> I probably seen it. I don't know. I
don't know the title.
>> You seen it with the little black dude.
He got the sister and [ __ ] Estabbon.
Purple glass.
>> They were showing that [ __ ] on we got
cable. They were showing that [ __ ] on TV
for free.
>> For free. Yeah. Back in the day bricks.
>> Yeah.
>> Hell no. I ain't seen
>> Yeah. You know what's crazy? My man
>> ended up the what became The Wire.
>> It was a show that came on before The
Wire that The Wire was based on HB. The
corner. The dude that started in the
corner. Yeah.
>> He's in Fresh.
>> Oh yeah. I ain't see Fresh. I saw The
Corner though.
>> Yeah.
>> Damn.
>> Now Fresh is a good one. What about you?
What's your favorite [ __ ] though?
>> Mine? Mhm.
>> Money talk.
>> I ain't really no hood movie, though.
>> I mean I mean
>> that's one of my favorites of all time,
too, though.
>> I can't help it. I can't help it.
>> Mine is e. I'm about it.
>> I'm about it.
>> All right. I got one. I got one.
>> About it.
>> I got one. Uh
>> friendly don't give a [ __ ] about nobody.
>> Friendly will kill your mama
>> for two, man.
>> It was literally the whole summer. I
watch bouty about it every day.
>> Me too. Every day
>> about it.
>> Me and X do walked up and said, "I can
make a million dollars in two days,
nigga." Now that [ __ ] had a million
dollars before, bro. My little P class
repo.
>> Oh yeah.
>> Tic Tac is dead. Du.
>> What's repo?
>> Repo with Michael Blast. Stupid ass and
cat and master.
>> Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
Okay. X told that [ __ ] "Motherfucker,
I'm about it." Threw the bullet at the
[ __ ] like, "Yeah, you caught that."
"Yeah, see if you catch the next one,
nigga."
>> Oh yeah, I remember that part. Remember
that [ __ ] man. That's my [ __ ]
>> Like, I'm about it. Like, but just those
classic type of movies that you know,
the hip-hop slash, you know what I'm
saying?
>> Can't leave this one out either.
>> What's that?
>> Ballock.
>> Ball.
>> This is a great hood movie. Eastiders.
That Snoop Dog.
>> Oh yeah. A lot of [ __ ] ain't seen the
East.
>> That's a good I remember seeing that
[ __ ] Yeah,
>> I [ __ ] with
>> You ever go back? You ever go back and
watch some like old them old black
movies? You ever go watch one of them
[ __ ] like
>> from the 70s? [ __ ] That was that [ __ ]
came out on HBO. That was that [ __ ]
>> Yeah. Hell yeah. I watched Willie D the
other day.
>> What's the one with Bill Cosby and uh
Hell yeah. We had to go up. That was
that [ __ ] That was that [ __ ] right
there.
>> Saturday night and let's do it again.
Uptown Saturday night is my [ __ ] man.
>> Which way is up?
>> Oh yeah. Which I ain't never, you know,
I c I never seen which way is up.
>> Which way is up?
>> Yeah, I seen
>> that's what the what G
>> I mean uh Kansas City man.
>> Richard Prior where he played on the
character.
>> I was going to say Richard Prior
>> South Central.
>> Oh yeah,
>> South Central was
>> the original one.
>> OG was cold.
>> OG son.
>> You see you see he did an interview
>> the uh the true story of uh
>> what's the one people like to hear?
These are these are the lords teruc.
Yeah. Hell yeah. This is
>> the Lord's territory.
>> I got a message for you ain't your
message, [ __ ] The way I got a message
for smoking.
>> You got a message for smoking. You
smoking. You ain't smoking. Ain't your
message.
>> Your [ __ ] message.
>> Some Chicago [ __ ] Chicago [ __ ] I'm
I'mma deal with you later. Yeah. Your
best bet better be a deal with me later,
punk.
Them [ __ ] met at the park and and and
had a meeting right before they did what
they did.
>> Yeah, that was real gang. That was the
gang banging [ __ ]
>> I see you [ __ ] We going to come over
there, man. Go down with these [ __ ]
>> Yeah, exactly. Beat the [ __ ] out.
>> The gangs used to have weird ass names
and [ __ ] back in the day. You know what
I'm saying?
>> Real [ __ ]
>> The outlaws.
>> The dragons. The
>> Hulk. Like [ __ ] like that. Real [ __ ]
>> The spinners.
>> You know what's my movie? The Westside
Story. Speaking of the gangs and [ __ ]
M. What about original gangster?
>> That [ __ ] is hilarious.
>> Original gangster with Jim Brown with
Jim Brown in it. Crazy
was a gangster.
>> I remember that. I remember that crazy
>> Drew. I'm talking about going I'm
talking about going crazy.
>> Hell yeah. Was your Was you the Black
Soprano family? What's your favorite
Italian movie? Italian gangster movie.
>> Man, I got to go. I got to go. Casino,
man. I would say the last [ __ ] I like,
but they be saying that [ __ ] not real.
>> The uh the last [ __ ] just came out with
Robert Dairo.
>> The cartel.
>> The Irish man. They saying that's not
real.
>> That's [ __ ]
>> Easy. Good fellas. The [ __ ] lit. I
hadn't watched Good Fella so many times.
>> I watched the the uh the little Mexican
cartel [ __ ] that was on Netflix.
>> What? The
>> Yeah, the Narco [ __ ] Oh,
>> that was good. That was good, too. That
was good, too.
>> It was a lot of reading. [ __ ]
>> I ain't never watch
Damn. That was a lot of reading, boy.
Good fellas, man. Get your [ __ ] shine
box. No, [ __ ] Keep them here.
Keep them here,
>> man. That's my [ __ ] boy. That was
roughless when I watch that [ __ ] You
got to be roofless.
>> Now, what about what about the what
about the [ __ ] What about the
[ __ ] like the the music movies,
them autobiography shits, man. Cadillac
Records is one of the coldest [ __ ]
Never seen Cadillac. Dream
>> Dream Girls. That [ __ ] You got to check
Cadillac Records out.
>> Like art, but Dream Girl get Cadillac
Records. Got you, man.
>> You got to watch Cadillac Record.
>> Little Walter was a gangster, man.
>> Yes, he was growing up, right? So,
[ __ ] was going over there and
doing his shows, acting like they Lil
Walter. He rolled up on some [ __ ] who
had a sign and everything. He said,
"Which one of you [ __ ] is Lil
Walter?"
>> I'm Lil Walter. Shot the [ __ ] got back
in the car, and drove the [ __ ] off.
>> Damn. Yeah, I definitely got to watch
Cadillac Record.
>> Yeah. I mean, as far as music [ __ ] I
don't, man,
>> that
>> the Jackson's American Dream, man. That
guy, the one that came out, that [ __ ]
came on TV
>> a million times. Real [ __ ]
>> He was sitting there watching that [ __ ]
But man, man, listen, that's coming up
with Jay Weaver.
>> Yeah, when he was Michael Jackson. Hell
yeah.
>> He killed that part, too. CB4.
>> He killed that [ __ ]
>> CB4 is a classic.
>> CB4
CB4 like that.
>> Hell yeah.
>> I'm wacky D. That [ __ ] got nerve
and I'm black y'all. And I'm black. And
I'm black, y'all.
>> That [ __ ] came out on that [ __ ] came out
on a box. We ordered the [ __ ] and
watched that [ __ ] I remember that [ __ ]
>> You just said something with the box,
boy. Box was the [ __ ] boy. I remember,
man. My mama beat my ass for ordering
crossroads on the box.
>> Hell yeah. Hell yeah.
>> Order crossroads on the box. You got me
that bill came. She like, "But what the
[ __ ] is this $7 on my bill?" I'm like,
>> she used to come on all day, [ __ ]
>> We used to order [ __ ] We used to wait
for other people to order that [ __ ] We
got in trouble though. We picked up that
phone a couple times.
>> They put that number in like, "Yeah,
they ready to play bone."
>> Boy, I was on that goddamn crossroads so
hard on the box, man.
>> Like do you like being a rapper like is
there anything that like of all the old
shows being a real spitter? Right.
>> Mhm.
>> What would you have wanted to be on if
you could be on any show that that you
know what I mean? From the from the
>> the rap cities to the to the you know
what I'm saying? The MTV your MTV raps.
Like is there anything that you would
have?
>> Definitely the basement.
>> The basement. You the one that's been in
the
>> Definitely the basement, man. We would
have went crazy in the basement. We
would have made a movie down there, man.
We missed that era.
>> Definitely the basement, man.
>> Damn, that would have been crazy.
>> I mean, shout out Shout out my boy, man.
Going through it, man. Shout out my boy,
>> Mr. All right. All right. Never mind.
>> Shout out my boy, man. My boy, man. We
Hey,
>> shout out my boy.
>> Hey, man. Yeah, we we
>> How do we end up here, man?
>> Yeah. I mean, it was the basement.
>> The basement. We know what I mean. For
sure.
>> Well, here you piece of good [ __ ]
>> I The way you smacking on it here, I
believe you, [ __ ] You you crushed that
[ __ ]
>> It was all right here.
>> They put a little love on them
[ __ ] They thin. God damn. They
done got st with this [ __ ]
>> You ever uh surprised yourself with a
verse? Like you ever went in and listen
to some [ __ ] back and like, "Oh my god,
I was Where was I at on that one,
>> man? Hell yeah." Cuz sometimes I write
[ __ ] and I'm like, you know, I ain't
going to say that I'm I'm offend [ __ ]
or or a lot. Every time I say that and I
keep it, it's some dope [ __ ] and say
[ __ ] [ __ ] You know what I'm saying?
So just just going there saying what I
want to say, man. I love that [ __ ]
There's nothing off limits. Saying what
I want to say. I get in the studio. I
get to I drink a whole bottle of Don
Julio, smoke 30 blunts and
>> put some verses together.
>> Damn.
>> Not literally. Not literally.
>> Suicide to drop the
>> Not literally, but I drink a lot of that
[ __ ]
>> I drink a lot of that like [ __ ]
>> You going to make it hit
I drink a lot of that [ __ ] Get in there
and I get to cooking. Boy,
>> [ __ ] with D.
>> Hell yeah.
>> Damn. I can't get drunk for [ __ ]
>> We don't drink over We don't drink at
all.
>> I'm going be real. I ain't never going
to brown. I only drunk white.
>> I ain't never drunk brown. I was scared.
>> That's That's a good thing. That's a
good thing.
>> [ __ ]
>> that brown was a was a dark era. Boy,
>> every time I saw somebody brown,
>> but I didn't even I think the worst the
brown ever that E that Urkin jerk that E
and J. Oh my god,
>> that's a make [ __ ] up decision.
>> What's that other [ __ ] That Paul Mig
that Paul, boy,
>> everything you said it was a bad Jason.
>> I ain't seen a bottle of that years.
>> Oh yeah, you got to reach down to get
the
>> I ain't seen a bottle of that [ __ ] in
years.
>> Down here in the liquor store. You got
to go down to get
>> You got to been down to get the Palmer
son.
>> You sure?
>> Yeah. Like you want that.
>> It's good. You never [ __ ] with the
brown. That that era was dark, man.
>> See, I thought I was doing Let me tell
you how lame I lame when it come
exclusive.
>> Mhm.
>> Yeah. Big B.
>> $21. Okay. I come to start a party with
that.
>> And it's going to start a party.
>> Exclusive.
>> Bottle of exclusive.
>> Big X on that [ __ ] Do it.
>> Oh, no. I ain't never seen that before.
See, I went through the air with the
with the the Nuvo. [ __ ] was walking
around with shampoo bottles of liquor,
[ __ ] with big ass pink nuvo bottles
and hypnotic.
>> I remember that [ __ ] Hypnotic. No, them
was that was liquid heroin.
>> That was crazy.
>> Well, I remember we I drunk a four logo
boy. Never mind.
>> What happened? What happened?
>> [ __ ]
>> What happened when you drunk the four
low? We drunk the four loco. I don't
know what happened, [ __ ] I remember
going to the Burger King, [ __ ] We woke
up the next morning, [ __ ] It's Burger
King everywhere, [ __ ] We didn't threw
this [ __ ] at each other, [ __ ]
We didn't threw burgers, waffles, and
[ __ ] all on the walls. Like, what the
[ __ ] did we do?
>> So, none of y'all So, none of y'all
drink?
>> No.
>> Oh, that's good, man.
>> Yeah. Nah. Nah, man.
>> How long has it been like that for?
>> [ __ ]
>> Ever?
>> Yeah. Forever. Never. Yeah. Nah.
>> Y'all just say funny [ __ ] all the time.
No. No. No. We don't need it. Yeah. You
know what I'm saying?
>> Y'all better than me. I make me look bad
up here.
>> No, it's all good. You got it.
Had a fool fight.
off the poor loc [ __ ] in a [ __ ]
apartment like in a onebedroom [ __ ]
this this [ __ ] was like 178 200
square feet [ __ ] we did that there
throwing food at each other I don't
remember what the [ __ ] happened [ __ ] for
a logo my [ __ ] that's why they had
>> you know Burger King they make they
sandwich messy
>> [ __ ] all over onions and [ __ ]
everywhere [ __ ] lettucees all type of
[ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] that [ __ ] man that's why
I came that liquor man that waking up
not remembering what happened is for the
bird
>> they had to switch the formula up on
that for a local white people was
fighting like hell goddamn
>> I don't remember
>> what they on now what they be what they
be doing now
>> what white people
>> I'm saying what look at they be them cut
water shits they say it's shit's not
like that
>> no for real that's yeah that's what they
on now cut water
>> but they not they not knowing cut water
got the liquor in it too well alcohol
>> they cutting this [ __ ] with other
alcohol them [ __ ] be thinking they
just getting cheap [ __ ] they don't
[ __ ] care
>> they don't care they just want to get
drunk They just be like, "Boy, I'm only
cook
boy." But your ass on J and juice,
mango, and peach, [ __ ] Your ass is
>> You don't never know who like some
people just drink and get cold. Some
people be drinking to get [ __ ] up.
>> Yeah.
>> And then wonder like, "What the [ __ ] are
you going through where you getting this
[ __ ] up?"
>> Like you want to go to this place to
forget your original state of mind. I
remember back in the day,
>> people get [ __ ] up with no plan or
nothing. You just [ __ ] up,
>> right?
>> And [ __ ] what was that? Cisco
and uh what's that other [ __ ] That [ __ ]
look like Kool-Aid. Uh
>> the Cisco.
>> The Mad Dog.
>> Mad Dog.
>> That Mad Dog 2020 [ __ ]
>> Wildish Rose, [ __ ]
>> That Wild Irish Rose.
>> Wild Irish Rose. [ __ ] was out getting
drunk like they was 70 years old.
>> Got up on that [ __ ] too. Bad dog 2020.
>> [ __ ] told me. [ __ ] was older. He was
like, he was drinking. I was like, "Man,
let me see something." He like, "Nigga,
you you
>> got to keep that from me."
>> I'm like, "Yeah." He like, "Nigga, do
you some alcohol, nigga?" I was like,
"What's it?" He like, "20." He like,
"Man, your young ass don't drink. I'm
skating. I took three sips just cuz he
tastes like peach mango." I'm thinking
he's just like, "I ain't even give a
[ __ ] about the alcohol taste." Oh,
that's what I felt the whole time
skating around that [ __ ] I'm
loose as a goose. I can't even skate. He
laughing like a [ __ ] He like,
"Look at that [ __ ] drunk here, bro.
Fuck." Cuz that's a whole different
genre of alcoholic right there. The
wineo
>> [ __ ]
know, all they drink is fruity and [ __ ]
and be [ __ ] up all the time.
>> No, I ain't never drink no mad dog. Cuz
where I'm from, all the old [ __ ] used
to drink that [ __ ] That's old
granddaddy living, [ __ ]
>> Yeah, I never drunk none of that [ __ ]
either. That [ __ ] my older brother used
to [ __ ] with
the wild wild
all of that [ __ ]
>> Hell no. Hell no.
>> Used to [ __ ] with all of that [ __ ] man.
>> That [ __ ] get you [ __ ] up.
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And LeBron on on the move too. That
nigga's in Philly. They saying he going
to fly in from New York. They say it's a
45minute helicopter ride.
>> I got to have some neighborhood he can
be comfortable.
>> All that bike ride in Philly cheese
steak. That [ __ ] didn't come for that.
That [ __ ] is coming for championship
only.
>> We don't need no ATVs. Them four wheel,
>> man. He don't want to hear all that. He
don't want to hear all that at night.
That man is 40 years old. He needs some
rest.
Come on, Philly.
>> Hold up. Wait a minute. Hey, cut it. Cut
it off. He can't wait to get in that
locker room. Tell them young [ __ ] cut
the music down. Looking at this lineup,
Tyrese Maxi, Edge Con, Jaylen Brown for
sure is allar. LeBron James at 41 years
and goddamn 12 months. Embiid
>> is that better than the Knicks right
now?
>> For sure.
>> He going to make them all step up and
play like they best game.
>> This the best team he done been on with
[ __ ] in their prime.
>> When people stay hurt like Embiid, I
give I have a problem giving them a nod,
man, cuz a [ __ ] can't stay
healthy. Yes, I know what he can do, but
has the [ __ ] done it on a
consistent basis? That's what the
question mark lies.
>> Use that [ __ ] laying on that table like
a bad [ __ ] every year.
Every year that [ __ ] go get some work
done. I don't know for basketball or
something.
>> Got to lay up in that hotel for a
couple.
>> But that [ __ ] have a fire on every
August.
>> Yeah.
>> Till October.
>> Yeah.
>> This year no fire. He ready to play.
>> 250 off.
>> Say you just play 50 60 games. Long as
you ready for the [ __ ]
playoffs,
>> man. I gotta ask another [ __ ]
that you work with that I [ __ ] with. 38
Spec, man. How y'all lock in? You know
what I mean? That [ __ ] got that [ __ ]
say, "Don't be mad cuz your daughter
chose cocaine. I I'm the reason why your
daughter chose cocaine, but don't blame
me because she got her father's nose."
It's like,
>> damn, [ __ ] That's some cold [ __ ] to
say right there. Like, how y'all link
up,
>> man? Through through Green Lantern and
DJ Shake, you know what I'm saying?
Locked in. We was about 20 21. Been
locked in ever since, man.
>> He from Rochester. I'm from Buffalo. The
Upstate Connection, you know what I'm
saying? He just put some [ __ ] out. Uh,
nine shots. So, just grind it, man.
That's why I That's one thing I love
about Spees, man. He a [ __ ] He a [ __ ]
who going to like do what he's supposed
to do in this [ __ ] You know what I'm
saying?
>> It's a lot of people who who ain't did
what they supposed to do, but he a [ __ ]
who going to do what he's supposed to do
in this [ __ ] Keep the legacy with the
bars and just go crazy, man.
>> How did y'all decide to name the series
Stabbed and Shot?
>> [ __ ] The Butcher in 38. You know what
I'm saying? Stabbed and shot.
>> Stabbed and died.
>> And the thing about it, that's crazy.
>> And the thing, you know, I thought about
that. He came up with it. You know what
I'm saying? I thought about it, but I'm
like, you know, that's too on the table.
The butchering 38, but you know, that
[ __ ] stuck. We ain't going to [ __ ] with
it.
>> 38 [ __ ] special, man.
>> What's the white dude? OT.
>> OT the real. He crazy. OT the real
crazy.
>> Real.
>> I'm not hip to OT the real.
>> Oh, you got to listen to OT the real.
>> Okay.
>> He gonna love that [ __ ]
>> Where he from?
>> He from Philly.
>> Oh, okay.
>> Philly. Yep.
That chick telling you he cold though.
>> White boy, he talk all that ignorant
[ __ ] All you know
>> like but that's another thing like
getting respect from the the the
spitters like the cities like Philly in
New York. Like when would you say that
y'all started to getting that
recognition from the guys who had
already you know you got the state
properties and the everybody that come
out of New York. You know what I'm
saying? It's too many to name. So when
did you say that y'all got that
recognition from the guys that was
already established spitters in the
game?
>> Man, I remember doing
uh one of my first biggest shows, sold
out show in Philly in 2019, man. And
state prop boys pulling up, you know
what I'm saying? I remember I did
another show and I brought uh brought uh
Chic Luch out and I brought uh Freeway
out and I you know that's another thing
that's more important to me than than a
lot of this [ __ ] is the is the know
what I'm saying is when your peers
>> you know what I'm saying cuz I say a lot
>> right
>> you know what I'm saying
>> [ __ ] with you and who you [ __ ] with.
>> Yeah. the [ __ ] who you studied and
[ __ ] who you watch had they run
>> when they [ __ ] with you know that mean a
lot you know what I'm saying so
definitely shout out to all the Philly
OG G's man around 2019 2020 right before
co hit
>> saying locked in with those boys man
>> was it a run that motivated you like
coming up you know you you in that age
range when you got to watch it like who
run was you like man
>> everybody's man definitely the Cash
Money run you know what I'm saying
definitely the uh the Rockefeller
Definitely like you said, Nelly, that
[ __ ] was impressive.
>> That [ __ ] was impressive. You know what
I'm saying? In the middle of all the New
York [ __ ] you got the what's popping
and n that was my [ __ ]
>> Yeah,
>> you know what I'm saying? So definitely
watching that run, man. I I would say No
Limit too, seeing all of that [ __ ] man.
>> Hell yeah. Hell yeah. I remember like
watching on on Rap City when uh
when Currency
saying he was telling the story how
Master Pulled up on him when he was at
the bus stop and signed him when he was
16.
>> I'm saying I was like damn I wish that
was me.
>> I was like damn.
>> But I remember that man. I love I love
the uh the no limit run all that [ __ ]
man.
>> Just a fan of hip-hop. I think that
matter. These [ __ ] don't be fans of
they don't be fans of the music no more.
>> This [ __ ] just be a straight hustle. I
get it though.
That's why it don't bleed through like
it like it should or I feel like that's
why the game is in a is kind of
positioned that it's in. You know what
I'm saying? Where
>> it's oversaturated.
>> Yeah. And the artist is really not in
control of this [ __ ] You know what I'm
saying? Because it's a hustle now. You
can't knock [ __ ]
>> Yeah.
>> Ain't no limit was crazy. [ __ ] you
open that CD up. It's 30 other CDs is
great. Come out
>> 30 other [ __ ]
>> [ __ ] is dropping tomorrow.
>> All the covers look the same and [ __ ]
>> Yeah. You ain't never heard of this
[ __ ] young [ __ ] from up the street.
Drop it tomorrow.
>> But that's how the [ __ ] go though.
That's how it be. Man, you remember
Master P drop heaven for a gangster.
>> That's my [ __ ]
>> Mhm.
>> That's my [ __ ]
>> But it it was like you either got it or
you didn't, right?
>> Yeah. Hell yeah.
>> Is that heaven for
>> gangster gangster?
That was a movie.
>> This day heaven for grew up in the
ghetto raised by a killer. T you cross
my stomach. Your neighbor but good drug
killer.
>> This [ __ ] was so straight to the point,
bro. It was so straight to the point.
That [ __ ] ain't leave no room for that
[ __ ] Master. I'm from the ghetto was
raised on eggs and meat.
That [ __ ] took one of the most
righteous black songs and made it a
ghetto anthem. Sitting in the ghetto
thinking about all my home is passed
away.
>> It was a classic too. Class
me and my boy.
How could it be
a boy from me?
>> These are like you said, these dog
[ __ ] these all [ __ ] that they got
to know cuz like you said, this [ __ ]
dropping tomorrow. Who is these [ __ ]
even seeing? These all [ __ ] who they
grew up with.
>> Yeah.
>> You got that money right with those
[ __ ]
>> But just that hustle in itself, like
that's one of the ones that, you know,
being from DC, like we never had,
especially me growing up, we never had a
major rapper. We was go go town. But the
music influenced the go- go music so
much that you know the go-go bands would
redo the rap song and that would make
you go listen to the the song that they
got it from. Like Nory got a song called
I love my life and back y'all redid that
[ __ ] and I just found out like two weeks
ago that that was a Nory song. I had no
idea. I've been singing the back version
the whole time and they got that [ __ ]
from Nory. So it's like the music is so
infused in the culture for us that it's
hard not to, you know, it's kind of
surprising rather that
>> [ __ ] don't have the same sentiment
now.
>> Like where do you think it got dropped
off at? Do you think it was an era where
[ __ ] stopped giving a [ __ ] to where
people stopped caring about the music?
>> Man, I I think it was, man. I think it
was, man. I think a period of time
rappers start coming out and it wasn't
about the talent no more. It was about
the persona. It was about, you know what
I'm saying? Which, like I said, which is
cool cuz we black people. We cooler than
a [ __ ]
>> [ __ ] so cool. We don't even know how
to even know how to rap, [ __ ]
>> Right.
>> So, I think that era, man, that make
people look at it as a hustle. Like, you
know what? I'm about to get this [ __ ]
money. All the dope boys, [ __ ] in the
studio. First, they was paying for
studio time for [ __ ] You come to the
studio, the dope boy, he in the booth.
>> I think it turned into that. You know
what I'm saying? Around I don't know,
man. Maybe around 200
eight around that time. I don't know,
man.
>> Makes sense. But that's one thing I love
though cuz you know I had that sentiment
about it but I love it at the same time
because [ __ ] is cashing out getting
the bread off of it.
>> Yeah. And getting out the streets.
>> Exactly. I'm saying that's important
streets. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
For sure.
>> Are they supposed to these these [ __ ]
acting like they don't want to get out
the street?
>> No. We was just talking about that.
>> [ __ ] act like they want to leave this
[ __ ]
>> Get in the rap game to get in the
streets. It's like [ __ ] you did you
hustling backwards.
>> You supposed to do all that [ __ ] before
you got the record deal. Now you want a
brick
>> cuz now cuz now all them cuz all the
gangsters get the brick.
>> All the gangsters and the dope boys who
didn't let them [ __ ] come around let
them [ __ ] hang around. Now you cool.
You got you got a hit on the radio.
>> Now you cool. Now you can come around.
Them [ __ ] was never allowed around
them [ __ ] before
>> ever.
>> So now they doing dumb [ __ ] they never
even had the opportunity to do.
>> Well, I know one thing. If you ever
really did any of that [ __ ] you know
the last thing you want to do is that
[ __ ]
>> You don't want to do that [ __ ] man.
That [ __ ] is for the birds, my [ __ ] If
you outside and you [ __ ] are [ __ ] is
crazy, man. Like be crazy, man. I
dropped the hardest [ __ ] album
>> and then on the next song I'm singing
like a [ __ ] [ __ ] has zip up
boots on the inside and shirt all
unbuttoned. I be making You heard that
[ __ ] Tiger did.
>> Oh yeah. Hell yeah.
>> I gave you racks.
>> Taking it back to the 80s. Be creative.
>> Billy Ocean 2.0.
>> What he say?
>> Yeah.
>> But you got to hear the song. He got
>> you know like it's like that's the [ __ ]
he just dropped. had to cover that's out
now and it's swiping cards and stacking
chips. I said, "Oh, you stacking ships."
>> Me standing. Yeah. Caught me standing in
the pouring rain. Now I got a heavy
diamond chain.
>> No,
>> my rush is getting thicker.
>> Pock is getting quicker.
>> You ain't heard that [ __ ]
That's not Tiger. That's another [ __ ]
>> That ain't taking over though. Taking
over. That's That's the hot one of the
hottest. That and spin that [ __ ] is the
two hottest songs out right now.
>> Who is that person?
>> Uh, hold on. I'll tell you that.
Stacking chips. I think it's named
Phoenix some [ __ ] I'm not Phoenix
flexing. That's what it is. Swiping
carts and stacking chips. I saw you
sinking [ __ ]
>> Yeah, you got you hear that song. That
[ __ ] everywhere right now.
>> White.
>> No, he black. He was in the uh the uh
>> uh uh the shorine
>> shorine mafia.
>> What?
>> Yeah. Shoreline Mafia out the west
coast. But yeah, it's just the
creativity. I'm laughing, but I can't
wait to go on vacation and be somewhere
beautiful
>> on a boat or some [ __ ]
>> cars
and little sandwiches with the edges and
[ __ ] cut off.
>> Great all this.
>> Yeah, but see that's why
>> money talk much louder now.
>> I can't wait to go through the night.
>> That's a definitely a vacation song.
Definitely a vacation song. But y'all
think I'm tripping when I listen to Nat
King Co. No, you ain't tripping when you
listen to no king. That's
>> roasting on fire.
>> That's the only black man that made
Christmas music. [ __ ] we be what time
it is, man. Play that king.
>> That's a big reason why I respect them
because y'all came out with a sound that
nobody was doing. This [ __ ] don't sound
like nothing else. That's one of the
things I appreciate about rap music.
Like the music that's coming out like
Milwaukee right now. This [ __ ] don't
sound like nothing but Milwaukee [ __ ] I
love that. I love I think that's one of
the things that's missing in the rap
game, the cultural sound. Like
>> you need more variety of [ __ ]
>> Yeah. You would be able
>> back in the day. We used to listen to
all this [ __ ] All that one came from
>> [ __ ] That [ __ ] will go from
>> Eric B and rock him to
>> Twister to Big Daddy Kane. We need that
variety variety of being able to to have
a distinct sound. Memphis didn't sound
like Atlanta. Didn't sound like New
York. Didn't sound like California.
Didn't sound like the Midwest. like so
Texas all of that [ __ ] and then they
will you would be able to get together
and make music that is timeless but you
still had a definitive sound that come
from your area. That's one of the things
that y'all did. So salute to y'all for
redefining a sound like that's what's
missing in the game.
>> That's what they said.
>> You know what I mean?
>> What's the next move? The movies.
>> Yeah, the movies, man. The movies is the
next move. [ __ ] And I tried
the sports agency [ __ ]
>> What you mean?
>> You did?
>> Mhm.
>> [ __ ] must got start.
>> No. No. It was just, you know what I
mean? It's a I just got to come back for
it. We got to team up and do that [ __ ]
You know what I'm saying?
>> I know what it was. You walked in them
NBA meetings with that Pyrex pot around
your neck. It was like,
>> we don't need any more of those. We know
what you Black Soprano family, huh?
Yeah. Okay. All right. Yeah. Are you the
one dunking? No. All right. See you.
Some guy in your office said his name is
Benjamin the butcher.
>> It was definitely a little
>> You want me to put him want me to put
him Benjamin the butcher?
>> You want me to push him through?
>> You got to get acclimated with those
[ __ ] with the suits. You got to get
acclimated with the suits.
>> Got to dress the paw.
>> It do be crazy though when you when you
do meet the big [ __ ] in charge.
It's never who you think it is though.
>> Yeah. And I eventually, you know what I
want to do though? I eventually wanna
want to manage a wrestler. You know what
I'm saying? We see Wes doing this [ __ ]
with the fourth rope and [ __ ] like that.
>> Yeah. If you want to manage a wrestler
like uh like Bobby Heenan [ __ ] like
Bobby the Brain like that type of
manager with you and you know what else
Vinnie the Butcher has to tell you
>> that
he's going to come down to the ring.
That type of manager.
>> Not not like not like really hands- on
like that.
>> Okay.
>> But like that though like that though.
>> Yeah. That be dope. I ain't never
thought about that position like
[ __ ] P. Oh, the Undertaker.
>> Oh [ __ ]
>> Oh, my Undertaker is coming.
>> The Paw Bear, right?
>> What's other names? The Jimmy Jimmy
Jimmy
come down with a bull.
>> His nickname was the mouth of the mouth
of the sauce. The mouth of the sauce.
>> That's crazy.
>> Now that's crazy.
>> What about Mankind? Man K had no
manager, but he was just fired every
man. That was Dude Love.
>> If you think about it, that's kind of
[ __ ] up though.
>> His whole persona, he was a funeral
director.
>> Yeah.
>> Yep. Paul Bear.
>> Paul Bear, man. That was just
>> He played the [ __ ] out. He scared of the
Undertaker. He played the [ __ ] out.
Terrified.
>> Paul Bear made him scared cuz that [ __ ]
the way he would talk about the
little children are in bed.
this [ __ ]
>> Get the most diabolical detail about
this [ __ ]
>> He carried a with him.
>> Yeah.
>> And then he would lift it up and every
time he lifted it up the Undertaker will
pop up like this [ __ ] is
>> that was
like especially West Gun like the the
wrestling references like you know what
I'm saying? Like
>> one of his songs when my mom passed away
I listen to Mr. see every day. Like that
just
>> it's just that just resonated. The sound
of that song resonated with me. But like
do all y'all have that love for
wrestling?
>> I'm going be honest with you. I think
Wes is definitely far more the biggest
wrestling fan. You know what I'm saying?
As a kid, I watched that [ __ ] You know
what I'm saying? I got a little older I
stopped watching it. But to be honest
with you, like seeing him do what he do
with the fourth rope [ __ ]
>> that [ __ ] just, you know,
>> explain what the fourth rope is.
>> The fourth rope is it's a wrestling
brand. You know what I'm saying? This is
This is like anything else. It's like
WWE's like uh [ __ ] TNA,
>> you know what I'm saying? And
>> and it's Westside Guns, you know what
I'm saying? It's his own wrestling
brand. And he's partner with TNA. He got
wrestlers. They wrestling on TV. They do
this [ __ ] overseas. They just did
Essence Fest,
>> you know what I'm saying?
>> [ __ ] wrestling at the
>> Hell Essence Fest.
>> He He had event in Philly.
>> We should have went to this Essence
Fest. [ __ ] wrestling down there. That
one [ __ ] was playing the horn, tap
dancing, singing at the same time. When
we
>> That
[ __ ]
when we
That [ __ ] went crazy. That [ __ ] told
him when we
>> That [ __ ] took that deposit and told
him it was a group. That [ __ ] ain't
want to return that deposit.
>> That [ __ ] said I
>> He delivered.
>> Yeah, that [ __ ] delivered. Boy,
>> bro, I play that [ __ ] That [ __ ] tank
top with me.
>> Hey, bro. That [ __ ] was talented as
hell though, wasn't he?
>> Yeah, he was.
>> He was playing the trumpet.
>> He was playing the trumpet. That [ __ ]
>> god damn. God damn. Godamn.
>> That [ __ ] said, "Oh, godamn. Godamn.
>> That's how hard you got to work to make
it out here, man. You got to do
everything. You got to do everything.
You got to do everything. People don't
realize that you got to do every
[ __ ] job. Anything.
>> If that don't sum up 2026 for us,
Oh my god.
>> Hell, boy. I swear I think he dropped to
the hill, boy.
>> Was that the wrestling?
>> Hell yeah, man. It's enough die that
hard wrestling fans for that [ __ ] will
never go out of st.
>> Always going to be a bag.
>> Oh, the wrestling [ __ ] Hell yeah,
>> man. They love that [ __ ]
>> All you got to do is get in shape. But
them [ __ ] be working.
>> Especially in the mid south.
>> 11 months out. Yeah,
>> man. And got one month to recuperate.
That [ __ ] Westside Gun funny as a
[ __ ] man. Like that [ __ ] be
replying to [ __ ] that people say on the
internet, bro. That [ __ ] be hilarious,
man. It's this [ __ ] named Zip with the
drip.
>> Zip with the drip was talking about
Westside Gut.
>> Talk about the way he sell [ __ ] right?
The way he rap. That [ __ ] Westside Gut
put the cops. He said, "You talk about
me while I'm overseas on a world tour
and you sitting in a funeral home
lobby."
>> Damn.
That [ __ ] he was in the funeral.
>> Damn. I ain't know I ain't know Wes and
Zip went back and forth too. That [ __ ]
he was sitting in a funeral lobby. That
[ __ ] Zip couldn't do [ __ ] but say
that's hilarious my [ __ ] You know what
I mean? So yeah man like just that that
you know I just I'm a fan of y'all.
Carway man for show man. That that [ __ ]
like
>> that when that [ __ ] came out him and
Fetty [ __ ] them two the when I first saw
them [ __ ] I was like oh my these
[ __ ] is dead serious. I remember on
the video when they panned up the Fetty
Wap and this [ __ ] turned with one eye.
I was like, "Oh, he going to make it."
So
>> he ready. You know what I'm saying? Like
them [ __ ] is is different, man. It's
different. And salute to for Conway to
come through that [ __ ] he went through.
Like was you around during that time
when that happened?
>> I had just got out of jail when
>> just got out of jail. Okay.
>> You know what I'm saying? I just got out
of jail. So I was around. You know what
I'm saying? That was crazy. But it was
like you said, it was crazy seeing him
like, you know what I'm saying? He got
shot in the head.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> So, it was crazy seeing him like work
his way out of that.
>> At first, I seen him all bandaged up,
walking on a cane,
>> and I just seen him just to the studio
doing this [ __ ]
>> I'm saying, gradually getting better,
seeing him fly, and then wearing jewels
and then doing videos. I'm like, okay.
>> Yeah,
>> it was a journey for him. But definitely
came out of that [ __ ]
>> This a clip like to show how long y'all
been rapping. This a clip of him rapping
before
>> and that [ __ ] I'm like, "Oh, them
[ __ ] been nice forever."
>> Right. Right.
Man, you have to be in this [ __ ]
for a minute to for it to start making
sense.
>> Oh, we don't we know it, [ __ ] I'm
telling you. You say a lot of people
don't want to go through the not good
stage.
>> Yeah. You got to you got to follow, man.
>> You got to go through the fire for this
boy.
>> Yeah, for sure.
>> And then once you get through the fire,
you think, "Oh man, I'm good." But if
you stay in there, it be so sweet when
you stay in there to go from being the
brokeest you ever been in your life to
having the most you ever had in
>> just knowing like, damn, all them days
where you just going through that [ __ ]
trying to figure it out. Once you get it
figured out though, it's just like that
[ __ ]
>> That's why you when you get through the
fire, like you said, even though it's
another five, now you know how to get
through a fire. Don't even look at how
to navigate that [ __ ]
>> You know what I mean? You know how to
navigate. He was like, "Oh, [ __ ] I
know how to not I know how to stay away
from this [ __ ] now, and I know how to do
this [ __ ] now." But you got to go
through it to figure that out. If you
quit, you just going to stop at whatever
level you ended at, and that's all you
going to ever know.
>> Quit going to be a [ __ ] ass [ __ ]
>> man. You can't quit.
>> Can't quit.
>> Can't be in your DNA. Quitting ain't
don't do nothing. You got to be looking
for failure. Failure, you got to alter
how you look at failure. Failure is how
you learn. You don't know [ __ ] Go in
here, bump your head right quick so you
can know what going on. But just
execute.
>> That's what it's about. It's about
action. It's about doing,
>> right?
>> Like you said, that's how you learn.
It's about trying to do this [ __ ]
>> Here say don't quit. Don't quit if you
got talent. But some of you [ __ ] need
to stop.
>> I'mma keep it real.
>> That's if you wasting time.
>> Yeah. Some of you [ __ ]
>> [ __ ] who wasting time, sit your ass
down.
>> Stop. You have to wait. If you really
got something and you know you working
with something, don't quit then. But
>> you ever you ever seen somebody like
this [ __ ] need to just quit this?
>> Yeah. But see, that's the thing. Ain't
nobody telling them like, "Nigga, cuz he
the mother."
>> Oh, this is [ __ ] up though. This is
[ __ ] up.
>> That could be the one that make it.
>> No, I'm telling you, sometimes when you
be like, "Man, this [ __ ] quit."
>> Sometimes that be the [ __ ] that break
through.
>> Fact.
>> Mhm.
>> They been work that one mood. I'm
talking about just they got one. They
They don't work this one a thousand
times.
>> They found the right [ __ ] where that
[ __ ] can prosper.
>> Can you think about the chaa man?
Somebody brought to him chill. to the
left.
>> What you don't know was
>> [ __ ] was doing that wherever he was at
for 10 years before the world got it.
>> They was mad that the world got it. They
was like, "Man, that was our shit."
>> I remember when this [ __ ]
community was loving that [ __ ]
>> It was like cuz we were looking for a
new cha but we weren't really looking
for a new side. We won, but we won. And
it was just so happened this [ __ ] came
out of nowhere and [ __ ] this [ __ ]
took. This cha cha [ __ ]
>> in the first church.
>> You got to think about the church.
>> Which one came first? The song or the
[ __ ] dance?
>> Because the song told you how to do the
dance?
>> The song did tell you how to do the
dance.
>> So you mean to tell me this [ __ ] went
in the booth and had a whole [ __ ]
dance made up and he hadn't even seen
the [ __ ] together?
I got for do this [ __ ] [ __ ] would make
it up. Like how you do that part
>> this way. You [ __ ] everybody up.
>> Charlie Brown.
>> What the [ __ ] was the Charlie Brown?
>> Who know how to do the Charlie Brown?
>> Who know you? You can't do the Charlie
Brown. Charlie Brown.
>> You have to keep doing the try to do the
Charlie Brown.
>> On that song and still to this day,
hands on your knees. Hands on your
knees. Like
what?
>> That's a twerk. That's a twerk. That's
[ __ ]
>> No, it's the new [ __ ] they got. What's
the new [ __ ] called again?
>> The new [ __ ] like that that they got.
>> Now
>> with the trail, what's it called? Trail
trail round [ __ ]
>> Oh, I got the
>> Oh, you talking about I got my boots on
the ground.
>> Yeah, that that type of [ __ ] They got
the boots on the ground. They got
>> that had an impact, too. But it was like
hot.
>> It's so many It's so many line dances,
man. Like, it's so many of them
[ __ ] it's like it's one out of
Chicago called the bus stop.
>> Like, and you see these [ __ ] do
the bus stop. This [ __ ] cold in the
morning.
>> Oh, you do the bus stop in Buffalo.
That's one of them [ __ ] Hell yeah. The
bus stop.
>> The bus stop.
>> I don't know how to do it, but I know
it. I know the dance. I mean, I know
what the dance is if I see it, but I
ain't nobody ever told me.
>> It's kind of like a variation of the
electric slide.
>> 100%. 100%.
>> How you do the bus stop? I ain't never
seen this culture. We talking about
y'all. Y'all got to put us down.
>> The bus stop for sure. It's so many.
>> You got a song to it, too. Do the bus
stop.
>> Yeah.
>> I go look this [ __ ] up.
>> You know what had America in a choke
hole, [ __ ] The hustle with black
people.
>> Do the hustle.
Do the hustle.
The
>> cocaine days, too.
>> The cocaine days.
>> Yeah. Hell yeah.
>> That [ __ ] took so long to come on. That
[ __ ] was on the coke early.
Do it.
About to dance on the coke.
Do it.
That [ __ ] there, man.
>> But yeah, that that to me dance really
was the one that [ __ ] was
whoever made that up now. It's just you
go to a party now, they break that out.
Yeah.
>> Doing that that to me dance to
>> when I think about you.
>> I ain't never seen nobody successfully
do that [ __ ] in real life. You
>> scared of dance?
>> I have.
>> I think all the
>> I have I went to the Essence Festival. I
seen a whole arena do it the same.
I ain't got no [ __ ] They just
created that [ __ ] You know how long
that song been out,
>> man? Oh yeah, it just came out.
>> But they just created some [ __ ] on that
bush.
>> Yeah, just not too long ago.
>> Well, they just So the song been out,
but they made a dance.
>> They made a dance to it. Revamped the
song. Made it seem like, you know, the
Tama dance, man. Y'all just came up with
the
>> Tika dance. It's called Tama
Tama.
>> We making this [ __ ] up on the spot.
Black people,
>> you just made up the Tama dash right
now.
>> That's what I'm saying. The Tama [ __ ]
the Tamika dance.
>> Remember the song?
>> Somebody make that [ __ ] up. Watch. Next
thing you know, somebody going to be
doing the Tama dance from the 85 South
Show.
>> Black people ain't never going to run
out of dances.
>> Never. We come up with
>> never. How much [ __ ] we done came up
with?
>> We came up with all this [ __ ]
>> The butterfly. That's old. Let me see
that twisting roll.
>> It was nothing wrong with the butterfly.
It's the same
The strippers weren't complaining like
we tired of doing the butterfly.
Why did we replace the butterfly with
the tissue rope?
>> That [ __ ] dissed that [ __ ] But
that's old.
>> That [ __ ] came on the track, bro.
>> At least these [ __ ] cared
enough about you to tell you what needed
to happen for the dance to be complete.
N
>> dip, baby. Dip. Come on. Dip, baby. Come
on. Come on.
>> [ __ ] think a hype.
>> Then they have What's the other [ __ ]
though [ __ ] had? But they only had
that one record.
>> Who? Who them?
>> The butterfly on the uh
>> Yeah, I think it was just that one.
>> Yeah,
>> [ __ ] still probably get a show and get
a bag off
>> right now. But you the ye play that [ __ ]
right now, boy. That [ __ ] go crazy.
>> And the Space Jam song
get up and slam.
All right.
Do you do
>> you already know what I'm talking about
too? You know what? They wouldn't never
play that [ __ ] in no club.
>> You lying.
>> That [ __ ] was
>> That was some kid [ __ ]
>> That was some kids [ __ ]
>> We was g off that [ __ ] bro. When they
play that [ __ ] we like do your
dad.
>> We didn't even know what the space was.
>> They playing that [ __ ] at no black club.
They play that [ __ ] at the white club.
>> You go to the white club, they going to
play that. Then the next song will be
who let the dogs out.
Who let the dog that [ __ ]
>> what have turn
>> that that song right there.
>> That's why I love how Lil John came back
when they hear that
>> with all the [ __ ] songs.
>> I like how he came back with them songs.
>> Oh yeah. Well, Lil John Yeah. But see
that [ __ ] was violent than a
[ __ ] Beat a [ __ ] ass in this
[ __ ] talking like [ __ ] for real
>> listen bro you had to know how to fight
during that era
>> what's that one [ __ ]
>> had to
>> damn when they when they talking about
damn I don't I don't know the words
>> mean when he's talking about mean
mugging walking through the club what's
that [ __ ] you know you know that [ __ ]
you talking about uh
>> what's that [ __ ] y'all
>> when you walk up in the club
>> no not it's not Lil John it's up in
>> somebody know that [ __ ]
>> [ __ ] he told you them [ __ ] was going
to do [ __ ]
>> damn what it say like it say some [ __ ]
like stare at a [ __ ] bump into it. It's
some [ __ ] I'm like,
>> look got some [ __ ] that
>> the [ __ ] they playing that [ __ ]
>> Mafia, [ __ ]
>> The first line of the song.
>> What?
>> You scared. You scared.
>> Stop acting like a [ __ ] You scared.
>> Yeah, that [ __ ] used to get [ __ ]
[ __ ] up for real.
>> I had to, bro.
>> That should get [ __ ] [ __ ] up.
>> That was that club era, [ __ ]
>> Put your hands where your fist [ __ ]
scared of no [ __ ] in your [ __ ]
click. If you make eye contact doing
this, that mean I will whoop.
>> They were just telling [ __ ] [ __ ]
>> [ __ ] [ __ ] you could never ever
ever ever get on my level.
>> What? What? What? What? What's your
level?
>> The level was, "Bitch, you can't get on
my level, so stop tripping."
>> That's always been some Dirty South
[ __ ] though. You don't remember a ball
and MJG,
>> right?
>> Bust a [ __ ] head, slap a hoe, shoot the
club.
>> See what I'm saying?
>> Those my [ __ ] right there. Use
>> now that era definitely got [ __ ]
[ __ ] up. P [ __ ] be in a club when
that [ __ ] going on.
>> They used to just park [ __ ] going this
side. [ __ ] was listening to that hell.
Yeah. Playing in the club.
>> You won't hit a [ __ ]
>> [ __ ] would go on this side. [ __ ]
part then start rumbling when that [ __ ]
crazy.
>> That song started some [ __ ]
gave you every instruction to whoop a
[ __ ] ass.
>> I bet you won't hit a [ __ ] Hit
a [ __ ] [ __ ]
>> Huh? Huh? I bet you won't push a
[ __ ]
>> Who won't?
>> Boy, tear the club up.
>> Yeah,
>> I got [ __ ] beat, boy.
>> I thought it got I mean got [ __ ] beat
up, too. Boy, that could
>> you looking at me?
>> I said I'm
see like [ __ ] be normal soon. that
[ __ ] Come on. Hit the mute.
I said you I represent it's 199.
>> Yeah. They label me a drill. Yeah.
>> I'm
>> I mean I'm
all Look here. Let's h like listen that
[ __ ] style ever.
>> He had his own style.
>> P had the most simplistic rhyme scheme
of all time. [ __ ] that [ __ ] P was
saying, boy, man, that [ __ ] by top
five. That [ __ ] P got a stall call. He
just kept time to check my crack. How's
my crack? How's my crack? Time to check
my crack. How's my crack? How's my
crack? Time to check my crack. How's my
crack? How's my crack? Time to check my
crack. How my crack? That's the hook.
Yo, Pete Gret, it's time to start
checking [ __ ] I'm the wrong [ __ ] in
the to be [ __ ] with.
>> What about that, Mr. Ice Cream, man?
That's what I'm saying. That was your
[ __ ] ice cream, man. Yeah. Before you
jump in the game, let's get one thing
understood.
If you're selling it ice cream, you got
to make sure it's good. Mr. Ice Cream
Man. Moby Dick. Paul.
>> That was right.
>> His name was Moby Dick.
>> That [ __ ]
>> you know why it worked? Cuz you stayed
true to his name. Every time he sung
something, it was about getting some
[ __ ] pretty much. Dang.
>> Yeah, that [ __ ] I always feel like
somebody watching me.
>> Oh, that was him.
>> Yeah, that's Moby Dick.
>> Damn, I thought it was a girl. Hey, man.
>> Moby Dick, man. That [ __ ] got an album.
That [ __ ] need to listen to that
album, man. That's a classic album right
there. At least to me
>> for real.
>> You know what I'm saying? Hell yeah,
[ __ ]
>> Them albums changed the South, man. Cash
Money and No Limit. No limit then. Cash
Money. That was the order.
>> Yeah. Right.
>> Yeah, man.
>> Right. Cuz it's still women right now
who are upstanding ladies in the
community that got that no limit tank
tattooed right here on their thigh big.
>> Mhm.
>> The whole
>> It's probably a lot of
>> And there's some few women in the south
that we was partying with back in the
day. We know they got a tru tattoo on
them somewhere.
>> You know what I was putting it right
here on the titty
>> and that's a part of the rap game that
don't exist no more either. Remember the
video vixens?
>> Like that bus video vix.
>> No, but that's what I'm saying. And like
I'm talking about back in the day when
it was
>> them hoes was like stars.
>> Yeah, they was stars. I remember the
first time Buffy the body slept.
>> Then that tip drill video that tip drill
video was supposed to be on the Spice
channel.
>> That [ __ ] [ __ ] swiped that
credit card down. That [ __ ] ass on BET.
I was like, "This can't be on BET right
now."
>> I mean, I know it's 2:30 in the morning,
but god damn.
>> I always And that ludicrous [ __ ] too.
>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to [ __ ]
popping on
know about that that Uncut BT Uncut. If
they keep bringing
>> What about the other shits that used to
be on there?
>> That was my [ __ ]
>> What's the one [ __ ] from Alaska?
>> Girl
running through my mind,
>> man. The DC [ __ ] had one on there.
That was my
>> Used to be a [ __ ] named Joker, man. He
from Alaska.
>> Yeah, Joker. The bells boss. Used to be
that [ __ ]
>> Damn. Freak
>> [ __ ] was out for real.
[ __ ] was watching that [ __ ] [ __ ]
was watching her cut. Them DC [ __ ] had
that [ __ ] that time for freaky.
Time to come clean in them tight ass
jeans. You know what I mean? Bongo
Versace Paris.
>> I remember that one.
>> Who you freaky assho?
>> Damn.
>> It's time to get freaky,
>> bro. Missing them [ __ ] every time.
>> Negative.
>> I fall asleep. I saw it coming.
>> Yeah, you tripping. Nah, cuz that that
[ __ ] used to come on when everybody get
home from the club. So if you still up,
you probably going to watch some BT boy.
>> I mean, I used to be watching that [ __ ]
in jail. The TV up there, you know, in
jail. You got
>> You got to watch that [ __ ] in jail.
>> Hell yeah. The good co but it's it's at
night 3 in the morning.
>> Boy, I know [ __ ]
>> [ __ ] got the headphones. I ain't even
got no headphones. I'm just I don't know
what the song say. I'm just watching
that [ __ ]
>> No headphones.
>> Talk about the [ __ ] that you got to go
through in jail.
>> But you remember what used to come on
right after Uncut. What?
>> Pastor Kernney top.
>> He said, "Come right on right after
that." Crazy.
>> But God,
>> what you say? Los
>> that [ __ ] Then Peter pop off. The
white dude come on a little bit for like
him. That [ __ ] was selling them prayer
cloths, man.
>> Peter pop off.
>> He making I remember that miracle spring
water on that [ __ ] Yeah, get
you a miracle spring water and you'll be
right there where you need to be with
God. Miracle spring water.
>> They me
got grandma selling all sending all the
money in getting rich
>> [ __ ] Miss Cleo,
>> they buy the spring water
from Peter Papa
>> prayer claw.
>> The spring water [ __ ] don't work.
Grandma
>> used to had the [ __ ] phone sex
lines. I remember my man, my man, my man
had was on them phone sex lines, man.
His [ __ ] phone bill in his mama
house was like two grand, bro.
>> In the '9s, [ __ ] This [ __ ] ran up
like $2,000 in charges on phone sex
lines, man. But I'm like, [ __ ] she
going to kill you, Slip, who are you
talking to? He He
>> [ __ ] was in that dial in the
[ __ ] every day. Every time I
knock on this [ __ ] door, he
>> was saying it again. Yeah,
>> this [ __ ] talking about
>> what you what you going to do? What you
going to do? I'mma suck your dick. You
see you
like your freak ass.
>> You know how freaked out you got to be
to call and just talk that [ __ ]
>> You don't know who on the other end of
that phone.
>> People don't care.
>> They have to pick who you want. Rebecca
36 double D. pressed for
>> you the call what the mother
>> my stepb brotherther did though
>> I believe it exactly what step brother
used to call all them [ __ ]
>> I ain't got time for it
>> time hasn't changed so much though man
>> right
>> it's over coochie's out here y'all
>> it's out here coochie
>> out here out here you ain't got to do no
got to get on that phone no more like
that
>> they had walking
>> see but I said you done been to jail
before I know you're on the phone game
smoothed in a [ __ ] Hell yeah.
>> That [ __ ] boy. I'm talking all types of
moves.
>> This [ __ ]
>> You did two years twice.
>> Mhm. Then I did like a And then I did
like a a year before. I did like a bunch
of little stints.
>> Still a little stint, [ __ ] 30 minutes.
That [ __ ]
>> My hardest my hardest time ever in jail
was I went to go do four months. That
was my hardest time ever in jail.
>> Every day was long in a [ __ ]
>> because the other ones I was young. This
time I was I was grown. I had a wife,
you know what I'm saying? The [ __ ]
left.
>> Damn. The 4 months.
>> I was still I was going in the jail
before that. So by the time I did the
four months, the relationship
>> that was it. That was it. And then it
was the shortest time she left off. Like
you have stuck around for six years.
>> Hell yeah.
>> Four months. Damn.
>> Damn.
>> So that was So that four the little four
months that [ __ ] was tough. That [ __ ]
was tough. [ __ ] was done with me. You
know when you come home [ __ ] barbecue.
This time [ __ ] barely pulled up on me.
Yeah, they thought you going to keep
going back like we ain't going to keep
using our stamps, [ __ ]
>> Real [ __ ] That's how it was. That's
exactly how it was.
>> [ __ ] you, [ __ ]
>> Real [ __ ]
>> man. [ __ ] that, bro. I got a family to
feed. They ain't going to be looking out
for you. You keep coming and going.
>> But like you said, my phone game. I'm
saying I got good phone game.
>> That was important back in the day.
[ __ ] used to do this back in the day.
We used to uh write all the girls
numbers down and [ __ ] Of course.
>> Yeah.
>> We used to have that [ __ ] Call that
[ __ ] a chickary.
>> You know what I'm saying? All the girls
number
that was a good one.
>> Hey man, let me see your chickary real
quick.
>> Real [ __ ]
>> Damn. This [ __ ] said
>> I'm scared on this.
>> Now you have you have How old is you?
>> Me? I'm 34. Oh,
>> you have phones ever since you know what
I'm saying? Y'all have phones?
>> No, [ __ ] I grew into having a phone
around like the same grade.
>> Seventh grade. [ __ ] didn't have phone
till they was grown. That's young [ __ ]
Seventh grade.
>> I mean [ __ ] you what, five year older
than me. So yeah, you would have been
grown while I was in the seven. You just
got there 18 just now having a phone.
Ain't my fault.
>> No, bro. Sure. I was 18. First get a
phone.
>> 18, right? See what I'm saying?
>> I got a phone before I was 18 cuz I
bought that [ __ ] Yeah.
>> I started buying my own [ __ ] at 13.
Wanda wasn't playing. She was like,
"Nigga, I'm responsible for what you
need, not what you want. Whatever you
want is on you." So, I start getting
money early.
>> When I got my first phone, it was
>> it was still at a time where it was
controversial. Like, if you had a phone,
your family was like, "Oh, Lord, he's
selling dope."
He got a cell phone. I know he's selling
dope.
>> [ __ ] my first cell phone was with MCI.
>> I remember that.
>> MCI was my first sale. I
>> probably had a pager first. I I had to
hide it cuz they thought I was selling
dope.
>> Yep.
>> Had to hide the pager. My uncle went to
jail. Every time my uncle would go to
jail, I'd be walking around with that
[ __ ] pages on in elementary school off
>> [ __ ] faking like I had a page on,
[ __ ] And then when he had one, the
green, the lime green one. I never
forget my little brother still got that
[ __ ] That [ __ ] still light up.
But that [ __ ] used to light up
and look like it worked. Oh, you
couldn't tell me [ __ ] Hold up.
>> Having the phone.
>> Yeah. Listen,
>> the pag phone. Come on, man.
>> With the phone, you was a bad [ __ ]
>> When I had my pager, it was $9 a month.
>> No,
>> cuz when I first got it, it was $17 a
month. Then they was it was fading out.
Them [ __ ] dropped to like $9 a month.
And I still had the little phone joint
probably with the $500
500 minutes a month. Probably that's
when the [ __ ] was high as hell. That
phone bill was probably damn near $200
for the little $500 a minute.
>> Them next tail chirps hit. Boy, I got
one game.
>> Boy, I got one of the goddamn walking
talk.
>> That's all it did. But that's you were
lame as f. That's that's we talk about
the cell phone errors, my [ __ ] Like we
went through so many eras of this. Like
this one probably lasted the longest.
The iPhone as far as just the
consistency because
>> Noia No, we walking talking. You ain't
have to charge your Noia all weekend.
That [ __ ] had them seven little battery
bars on the side.
>> You ain't had to charge your Nokia.
>> Well, that [ __ ] about every snake on
that [ __ ]
[ __ ]
>> [ __ ] had razor was a good air. I had a
razor.
>> Razor was a good arrow. had that good
old razor no more.
>> What about the sidekick?
>> I a sidekick.
>> Sidekick.
>> Naught chasing the school with them
[ __ ]
>> Got to kill that [ __ ]
>> I'm from the old school.
>> Remember that [ __ ]
>> I had no kid with face plates on them
[ __ ]
>> Oh yeah.
>> The [ __ ] that you just swang
right here.
>> [ __ ] had the the swivel on that [ __ ]
>> What [ __ ] The orange sweater. The
orange face plate. [ __ ] with the Come
on, man. Oh, you match yellow sweater.
>> Come on. Oh, it's the weekend. Let me
put the money face on that [ __ ] cuz
money this weekend,
>> [ __ ] What? Every outfit the face. You
had a face plate, [ __ ]
>> That That was everybody.
>> I remember they was selling different
[ __ ] for no kids.
>> Different face.
>> I remember the money one too.
>> You know the [ __ ] when you was getting
money though, you had your [ __ ] just all
the way see-through. So when your phone
ring, you can see the all the lights.
>> But I ain't like when the numbers was
off.
>> I hit you back, bro.
>> Get closed.
>> N the er that's crazy to me is the
Bluetooth era, [ __ ] [ __ ] was walk.
>> I ain't never get with the Bluetooth
>> with the Bluetooth they [ __ ] The
Bluetooth [ __ ] That [ __ ] was
crazy slim. The whole Bluetooth.
>> I ain't never snapped the Bluetooth
area.
>> This [ __ ] still walking around with the
[ __ ] [ __ ] looking like truck
drivers talking on the cell phone.
>> Oh yeah.
>> Hello.
>> Over with
>> Hello. Hello. Look man, you know we had
to get you some of this cold player
[ __ ]
>> Oh man, gifts. I love it.
>> Know we had to get you some of this cold
play.
>> Appreciate y'all fellas, man.
>> We got appreciate you, man.
>> Clothing line emporium. You feel?
>> I appreciate that [ __ ] brothers.
>> Of course, young brother, man. We know
this your first time stopping through
the trap. Don't let this be the last
time.
>> I'm coming back, man. I'm coming back
shopping with y'all, man.
>> The movie drop. You know what I'm
saying? Appreciate y'all boys for having
me. You know what I'm saying?
>> I ain't one of them [ __ ] who ain't
going to throw the shirt on, too. I'm
throwing this [ __ ] on.
>> Oh yeah. You know, some [ __ ] don't
even be wearing the [ __ ]
>> I'mma throw this [ __ ] on.
>> They be giving it to their girls and
[ __ ] I'm like that.
>> Nah, you know what's going to [ __ ] us up
when we see that Asian lady in that
[ __ ] at the curry out somewhere.
He like, "Where you get that shirt
from?" Like you be seeing [ __ ]
with Delta Sigma Theta shirts on white
women and [ __ ] You like, "Man, where
you get that shirt?" They be giving them
away for sure.
>> That's crazy.
>> Y'all [ __ ] are crazy, man. 85 South
Show. Benny the Butcher. We out there,
B.
Take a photograph, guys.
>> Oh [ __ ]
>> What's up, fool?
Heat. Heat.
Heat. Heat. N.
What's up y'all? It's your girl XP and
it's your girl Jory and Nicole
>> Clayton English now green boy Louis
Lewis Belt Justin Whitehead Buddy Bag B.
>> Listen, if you're trying to book us for
your event, hosting, comedy show,
whatever you got going on.
>> Let's keep it real professional.
>> No sliding in my DMs.
>> Well, I'm not going to say that. That's
what they want me to say. You can still
slide in my DMs, but it's got to be
freaky. No, I'm just playing. Look,
let's keep it real professional. This
what you going to do.
>> Hit the email bookies85show.com.
That's how you make sure everything is
handled right with no games.
>> Contact the email, man. Hey, ain't no
more hit me on the side. I'm
professional this year. You got to talk
to my people.
>> So, one more time, for bookings, hit up
bookings
>> at 85 southshow.com.
>> And that way you can get your event
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I'm not going to hit you. I'm not going
to respond. So, look,
>> no funny business.
>> No funny businesses. It's just strictly
>> family business around here, man. We
bring the funny. You just have your
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