Video summary
The video argues that it is biblically incorrect to ignore allegations of sin against church leaders, asserting instead that such individuals must be exposed to protect the congregation. The speaker cites scriptures like Ephesians 5:11 and Exodus 23:1 to refute the notion that believers should only pray for sinners or wait for a court verdict before speaking out, emphasizing that sexual misconduct within churches violates God's commands even if it does not break secular laws. Silence in these matters is described as enabling predators like G. Craig Lewis and Jim Jones to continue harming women, men, and children, with the speaker comparing this negligence to ignoring warning signs before 9/11 or failing to warn about unsafe restaurants.
The central message urges viewers to prioritize God's word over loyalty to favorite preachers and to actively warn others of spiritual dangers rather than idolizing leaders who refuse to address serious accusations. The speaker notes that church elders accused of dissipation are disqualified from office according to Titus 1:6-7 and that the church must judge its own members as instructed in 1 Corinthians 5, since civil courts may not cover moral sins. He criticizes followers who defend pastors like Rob and G. Craig Lewis despite evidence of abuse and video proof of misconduct, arguing that such defense stems from selfish motives rather than love for mankind or Christ.
Using a wolf-and-sheep analogy, the speaker emphasizes that priority should be given to stopping attacks on the vulnerable rather than praying for or defending the perpetrator. He clarifies that doctrine should not be built solely on the book of Acts but must consider the whole Bible, noting that while Acts informs understanding of the Holy Spirit's work, it is not the sole foundation. Finally, addressing accusations of arrogance, the speaker denies having an inflated view of himself, stating he does not promote himself and has been humbled by God, distinguishing firm speech from true humility or arrogance.
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Does he know what this is? Does anybody
know what this is?
Rob has no idea what that is. That came
from this man right here.
>> He doesn't. But we're supposed to go and
just pray
for that person that h has might have
done. I don't we don't know.
>> Give me a scripture that says we're
supposed to go and pray for a person
that's that's in sin or
>> I will have to look I will have to look
I will have to look it up. But look up a
script scripture that said that we're
supposed to go out and expose that
person.
>> Bam. Uh Ephesians 5:11, "Do not
participate in the unfruitful deeds of
darkness, but instead expose them."
That's not an issue. Not accused of
dissipation or rebellion. Is he being
accused of dissipation?
>> Yeah, of course he's being accused of
it. But is it true? Why? Why?
>> What does the text Hold on. Put your
eyeballs on the screen. What does the
text say? I'm not calling him stupid
because I don't know him. I'm calling
him stupid because of what he's saying
to people. And we what we ought to do,
we ought to turn our eyes, turn our
backs, turn our ears away on danger. Why
do you think we've got the churches that
we have out there today? Why do you
think we have the new birth with Jamal
Bryants? Why do you think we have the
Mike Todds of the world? Why do you
think we have the the Jakes
incorporated? Why do you think we have
the Joshua J? Why do you think that you
can have a person like Apostle um Taylor
who's doing these sexual things and
these inhumane things to human beings?
Why do you think we can have that? We
should just leave it alone. Let them
take care of it. No.
So women are being taken advantage of.
Men are being taken advantage of.
Children can be taken advantage of.
People's doctrines are being screwed up.
And so at the end of every doctrine, bad
doctrine is a a soul. No, it's okay.
It's okay. Who are you to judge?
>> All right, let me look at this person.
This person comes in. He says, "Yo, so I
just seen your G Craig reaction. You got
to do better." Uh, the less maestro. I
don't know how to say the first part.
Maestro, what do you mean? I want to
hear what you got to say. Let me let me
hear what you have to say. What was the
problem? What did I say wrong? What did
I do wrong? I'm all ears. Uh Rob, is
this you? Let me see that. It It's It'll
put you on right here.
>> How you doing? God bless you.
>> I'm doing good. How are you?
>> I'm doing I'm doing I'm doing well. I'm
I'm doing well.
>> Okay.
>> Listen, I listen um I watch your channel
uh from here and there. Um you know, you
know, some things uh you like, you know,
some things from the from a Bible
perspective. You know, I see where you
coming from. But as far as what I mean
by by you know your response video about
GR Lewis,
>> right?
>> Listen, I'm by no means is
taking up or discrediting the story that
was told, right? I'm not doing that. I
let everything play out in the courts.
Right? My position is is right as we as
believers do not need to insert
ourselves in any rumors or any gossip
that's going around that hasn't been uh
proven yet in the courts. I don't
believe if if we going to have a channel
if us talking about another pastor or
what have happened or what didn't happen
um is that also help spreading the good
news, right? Is that what we're supposed
to do? Right? Even if they do something
wrong, I don't even care if it's Jamal
Brain because you know I don't I don't
have care for Jamal Brain. I absolutely
do don't. I never listen to his word. He
said Jesus was 85% out of order. I was
out. I was out since then. But even if
he did something wrong, right, it's not
our place to go and broadcast it and
talk about it, right, and break it down,
right? I understand. We want But listen,
but listen, I I I understand you want to
bring awareness and whatnot,
>> but Like what's the point? Is that help
spreading the good news of Jesus Christ?
Right? That's just my point. That's just
my that's just my take on it. And we
don't I don't know a person to be evil
or not. Only God knows.
>> You know what I'm saying? And then we
got to have the discernment in our heart
to understand what that person does. And
that and number one, that's always
checking somebody's fruit, right? I'm
not going to call anybody evil. That's
not what I do, you know? But I just I
just think if there's a rumor or uh some
type of um we gonna say rumor because it
hasn't they haven't went legal. I don't
I'm not sure if they went legal yet and
it's not my place. But I don't think we
need to be participating in it and
broadcasting and talking about it. I
just think we just need to continue to
go through the Bible, keep doing what
you're doing and continue to spread the
good news. That's just my point. I was
trying to anyway.
>> No, I appreciate Listen, I appreciate
that. I think I think it's good to
listen. I want to be. I want to be.
What? What? What? What? By the way, how
old are you?
>> Uh 34.
>> Okay. You may not remember this. This
This ain't before your time, but was
before your time when you before you
became an adult. George Bush used to say
that I'm a unit, not a divider. That's
kind of the attitude that Christians
want to have, though. I want to I want
to be I want to be united. I don't want
division. I want us, you know, and I get
that. Matter of fact, you should. But
it's not that we want to have unity at
all costs, no matter what. So, let me
ask you a question.
If the Bible says we ought to do what I
said, what I did, would you would you be
in agreement then?
>> If the Bible says to do, well, the I
will challenge you to say the Bible says
we shouldn't do we shouldn't participate
in any spreading of rumors or any type
of gossip, especially something that
doesn't have anything to do with us.
>> Okay. Okay. Let's pause right there. Do
you think it doesn't have anything to do
with us?
Um, I don't
I see where you're going because you you
saying that as a representative of the
body of Christ. Okay, I see where you're
going with I see where your point is.
But as far as having us individually,
right, it doesn't, but we're supposed to
go and just pray
for that person that h has might have
done I don't we don't know. Do you have
a scripture that tells us
>> supposed to pray for that person?
>> Okay, Rob, give me a scripture that says
we're supposed to go and pray for a
person that's that's in sin or
>> I will have to look I will have to look
I will have to look it up, but look up a
scripture to say that we're supposed to
go out and expose that person.
>> Bam.
Okay. How about this one right here? Uh
Ephesians 5:11. Do not participate in
the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but
instead expose them.
>> Okay. Expose. Oh, so break. So what's
your context behind that?
>> Huh?
>> Expose. So, so do not participate.
Proceed. So whose job is to expose? Is
our job to expose it or is it God's job
to expose?
>> Our Well, wait a second. So is God going
to step out of heaven, step down? Hey
guys, listen. Hold on. Stop what you're
doing. This guy right here is ungodly.
>> Do that. No, he I'm not saying that he's
>> he going to use
>> He's going to use situations where he
ain't going to use people. He He Is he
using you to do that? Wait, hold on.
Hold on. He doesn't use people.
>> He hold Hold on, hold on, hold on. Are
you saying he doesn't use people?
>> He used people to warn people about the
about the uh sin that uh that people is
in. That's what I'm doing. He used
prophets to go to nations to preach
about the coming destruction of God if
they don't turn their turn their wicked
ways. Okay. As people as a
representative of Christ to expose
another person. So Paul says fallen. Who
is Paul talking to then in Ephesians
5:11? Who's he talking to? He's talking
to people and telling us to expose those
things.
Let me ask you a question. Let me ask
you a question.
It's an obvious answer I'm going to ask
you, but but I'm going somewhere with
this. So, just so humor me.
>> I I got a couple chapters for you, too.
>> Okay, that's fine. That
>> So, Exodus 23:1 forbids to forbid Exodus
23 and1. Leviticus 19-16.
>> Hold on. Hold on.
>> Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Exodus what?
23 and 1.
>> 21.
>> 23 and 21.
>> 23 and one. I'm sorry.
>> 23 and1.
Okay. And then what was the other one?
>> Uh, we got Leviticus 19 and 16.
>> 19 and 16.
Alrighty. So, here we go. Let's go to
the first one. Exodus 23:1. You shall
not bear a false report. Do not join
your hand with the wicked man to be a
malicious witness. Okay. And then
Leviticus 19:16, you shall not go about
as a slanderer among your people, and
you are not to act against the life of
your neighbor. I am the Lord.
>> So is is so with that being said, right,
we don't know if if if it's true. Even
if it's true, we're not supposed to
participate it.
I don't think we should. That's not our
place to participate in it. How is that
going to my goal right now? Right, as I
sit with sit with you, I just want us to
continue to spread the good news. And I
just I we want I want us to all do
better, right? I'm going down. I'm I'm
going to go and and and pray for G.
Craig Lewis in that ministry. Pray to
God that God will deal with whatever is
going on be behind closed door, right?
And whatever is is happening. Let it
play out in his will, in his way. From
there,
>> I got some questions for you.
>> Yeah, that's what we're supposed to do.
That's that's all I'm that's that's the
standpoint I'm coming from, sir.
>> All right. So, listen, young brother, I
got I got I got a question for you. I
got a question for you. And I already
know the answer. I'm I'm going somewhere
with this, but before I do, let me go
and and deal with with with what you
brought up. You brought up some good
some good verses. You shall not bear
false witness or bear you shall not bear
a false report. Do not join your hand
with the wicked man. So in this
scenario, who's the wicked man? The
people that are
>> No, no, no.
>> Anything. If I'm hold if I'm if I'm
joining in on a false report, that means
that all of the dozens of people who are
lining up, former members, dozens upon
dozens upon dozens of people, men and
women, and people who are saying that
they were be they were involved with
this man and former members and close
friends and audio recordings. Those are
false. Those are wicked people.
>> I'm not calling them wicked. I never
called
>> That's what the text says though. The
text says don't join yourself,
>> but the fact that you participated in it
or something that has not been proven
yet.
>> No, no, no. Hold on, hold on, hold on,
hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
That hasn't Why had they went to court?
>> Rob, rob First of all, all sin doesn't
go to court, does it?
>> No, we're not talking about all sin that
going to court.
>> Why? Why would this go to court?
>> We're We're talking about
>> Why would this go to court?
>> No, because if this going to court to be
proven that this
>> Why would it go to court? What? What law
did he break? Sleeping proven not
guilty.
>> Hold on. Rob rob.
Sleeping with a bunch of women who are
not your wife is not against the law.
>> So there's no need for it to go to
court.
>> But that's not and that's not our
business.
>> You hold on. You are you following your
argument? You said Rob. You said Rob.
Just listen. Rob, listen. Rob, listen.
>> Rob, listen.
>> You asked the question. Why would it go
Why would it go to court? It's not to go
to court. It's Huh.
>> I I just told you if if if they they
have rumors of sexual type any type of
sexual abuse, right, that's going on
within the church, right? Why hasn't
that been in court?
>> Cuz if there's no law
between them,
>> there's no law. You're not
>> Rob. You're not listening. You're not
You're not You're not listening. Okay.
>> Okay. There's no law.
>> Like to answer, but that's their
covenant. Okay. So, let me let me let me
deal with what you're saying with
scripture.
>> There's no law, first of all, that's
been broken. So, there's no need for it
to go to court. Sleeping with a bunch of
people in your church, violating their
biblical trust does not violate any law.
There's no statute that was broken. No
one is saying that he slept with someone
underage, that he met the person when he
first met the girl. She was a student um
of his. But when but apparently when by
the time it happened, it was when she
was an adult. So no law probably was
broken. By the way, the people are
saying that it was reported to the
police. That's number one. But
>> hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Let's go to your other verse. By the
way, in order for for Exodus 23 to be
true, to be an issue, it would have to
be a false report. Now, I'll get back to
why how we get around this, but let's go
to to your other passage, Leviticus
19:16.
You shall not go about as a slanderer.
If what we're bringing up is true,
then it's not a slander. Here's why G.
Craig Lewis, amongst other things, ought
to be avoided. First of all, and this is
a fact, to tell your members not to do
Bible study. Someone brought this up and
I looked and say, "Yeah, this this did
happen." to tell your members not to do
Bible study on their own. You have to
come to me. If no other reason, run from
that dude. Run from that person. But
about these particular allegations,
let's go to the Bible.
If you were to bring up an allegation,
the Bible says, uh, where we at? Do not
receive an accusation against an elder
except on the basis of two or three
witnesses.
If you've got these two or three
witnesses, now in this case, far more
than two or three witnesses,
he's got to do one of two things. Either
fight against it or agree with it. If
you don't f if if your fight is get out,
put people out. Um to ostracize them, to
block them from coming around saying or
just going silent, I'm not going to
answer the question. Now, what are we
going to do? We're going to treat you
like you are guilty.
>> No. And
>> no, I did that. Treat treat like guilty.
Okay.
>> Wait a second. Wait a second.
>> To go legal. That's why I need to take
the legal route.
>> Stop. Rob. Rob. Are you paying
attention? Stop bringing up legal.
>> I just disagree with what you're saying.
That's
>> You ain't got Listen, you're not
disagreeing with me. You're disagreeing
with the Bible. Cuz let's let's
continue.
>> Disagreeing with the Bible. Your text is
>> So we're going to listen. So So here's
what the text says. Here's what the text
says. The text says even in let's go to
this passage about why he can't even be
in the pull pit. Here's um where verse
is at
Titus 15. The qualifications for him to
be an elder. If we go from Titus 1 to
verse 6, if any man is above reproach,
that means he's not being blamed for any
sin, which he currently is. having
children who believe that's not an
issue. Not accused of dissipation or
rebellion. Is he being accused of
dissipation?
>> Yeah, of course he's being accused of
it. But is it true? Why? Why?
>> What does the text Hold on. Put your
eyeballs on the screen. What does the
text say?
>> What does the text say? Rob, you're not
listening. See, Rob,
you're not listening. You You want to
talk over me? I'm I'm giving you all the
opportunity to talk. I'm ask you a
question though now.
>> No.
>> What does the text say?
>> You are. But you are. He is He is being
accused of it, but it hasn't been proven
yet.
>> What does the text say? Rumors.
>> See, you're not listening. I told you.
You're not arguing with me.
>> I'm listening. I'm listening. But you
keep saying that I disagree with what?
Okay, fine. What does the text say?
>> I just agree with what you just said.
>> So, can he be an elder? Can he be a
pastor?
>> He is a pastor right now. that's being
accused over something that has not been
proven yet. LISTEN, I'M NOT TAKING
>> What does the text say? Rob. Rob, listen
to what the text says. Rob, I want No,
I'm I'm not going to mute him. I want
everyone to see how this happened.
>> But listen, but listen. All I'm just
speaking to is why are we taking time
out to broadcasting something that
hasn't been proven yet, man?
>> I'll get there in a second. I'll get
there right now, man.
>> I'm doing it for what?
>> You're doing it for clickbait. If you
say so.
>> A name. Listen,
>> if you say so.
>> The whole point of this, the whole point
of my argument, right, is that
>> Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. You
said he's a name.
>> Hold on. You said he's
>> trying to listen. But listen, the whole
point of my argument is we don't know
whether it's true. I'm not trying to
take uh take up for G. Craig for the
things that he did if if it happened.
That's him between him and God, right?
Okay.
>> Why are we arguing about this and trying
to do this?
>> Can I just tell you this, Rob? Are you
spreading the good news?
>> You are ignorant of the scriptures. Rob,
listen to Rob. You just want to keep
talking.
>> Are you saving people?
>> You just want to keep to stop sin and
and and stop sinning. Jesus is the only
way to like Is that what you're doing? I
didn't think cuz you're just spreading
rumors and saying, "Oh, this person is
evil. Oh, this person." THAT'S NOT YOUR
BUSINESS. YOU'RE NOT.
>> ROB, if you would just quiet down and
listen cuz I asked you questions. I'm
saying you don't I know that's all
you're saying but you're not saying
Bible. I asked you I asked you a
question. I asked you what this text
says. This text says clearly in the
English not accused of dissipation. Not
someone bringing charges against you
>> of dissipation. That person according to
the text cannot be in the office of a
pastor. That person also must must be
one who manages her own household. Well,
biblically speaking, the only way that
we can know a person doesn't manage his
own household well is we got to kind of
get involved. Who should get involved in
the affairs of another believer? Not a
non-believer, but an actual believer.
Paul in 1 Corinthians 5, cuz I know you
don't read your Bible that well, cuz he
says this. This is what I'm saying.
Well, then you would know this text. It
is actually reported to me. It's
actually reported to me. It's actually
been told to me that there is immorality
among you. Notice Paul didn't go out and
investigate himself. Paul didn't say
bring me the evidence. Paul says it's
been reported. So clearly clear just let
me talk. Can I you mind? Hey, would you
mind if I talk on my show? Would that be
cool? Hey, Rob. Rob. Rob. Question.
Question. Count for a second. Can I
talk? Rob, I don't know who raised you.
I don't know who raised you, but the way
I was raised, let somebody on their own
channel talk. I gave you opportunity and
I'll give you more opportunity to talk.
Let me make my point. Is that okay? We
can do that.
Thank you. Back at you. All right. So,
Paul did not conclude it was correct.
What Paul said was it was reported that
there is immorality among you. Such a
kind of doesn't even exist with the
Gentiles. You know what Paul goes on to
say? Paul says that that person, he had
the person removed, but he said, "You
all are arrogant." He's like, he's
talking about someone like you. You
think you're doing better. You're better
off because you just let him go. You
think you you know what? Hey, it's not
my business. Paul says, "You have become
arrogant and have not mourned." Instead,
so that the one who had done this deed
would be removed from your midst. Paul
goes on to say, "Do you not know that a
little levan leavenvens the whole lump?"
He says, "Deliver such a one, this one
should be delivered over to Satan." He
says, "Do you not know the way you're
boasting like you're talking right now,
Rob, like you've done something good,
like you like it's noble to let sin
pass?" He says, "Do you not know your
boasting is not good? Do you not know,
uh, Rob, that his leaven, a little
leaven, leavenvens a whole lump? And
we're talking about lump from the very
top. Leavenven from the very top. He
says, "Clean out the old leaven
leavenven that you may be a new lump
just as you are in fact unleavened. For
Christ is our Passover." So look what he
says going down further. Does he say he
says do not keep company or associate
with an immoral person, a sexual immoral
person? not not people who are unsaved.
But he says to the person who's the
so-called brother, don't have company to
do with this so-called brother. He says,
don't even eat with him. Now, look what
he says right here. Since you don't know
the Bible, he says this person, what
have I to do with judging outsiders? Do
you not judge those within the church?
So what we do is we judge the people
that are inside the church, not the
people that are outside the church,
inside the church. That's our job.
That's why he says, here are the words
that Paul and others use. Fight, refute,
rebuke, reprove, contend. Those are the
words that he uses for us dealing with
people in the church who either have bad
doctrine or who are involved in sin.
You're telling us to let it go. You are
in error. You are the kind of person
that will allow a murderer or someone
who is taking advantage of people to go.
It ain't our business. It's a foolish
and ignorant and evil thing. So you mean
tell me if you see danger and I'm going
to danger, Rob is going to let me run
into danger. Rob don't care about
nothing but being quiet. Maybe Rob's got
some issues. I don't know cuz what has
Rob done? Rob has attacked me. You ain't
do you spread the gospel? You looking
for clickbait. My name more folks know
about me than than uh G. Craig Lewis. I
can promise you that. So, I'm not
getting any clickbait off it. What I am
doing is I'm I'm warning people. Why
don't you warn folks? You don't care
about anybody other than saying I'm out
of folks business. So, it makes you
wonder what are you hiding from? What's
so what's so cuz you don't want somebody
to expose you, right? But I know this.
If there's a sexual predator in the city
of Dallas or New Orleans or Fort Worth
or Chicago, people want to know one who
it is, what they look like, where they
live, what they did, why to avoid the
potential danger. You don't care. Tell
me you care without telling you. Are you
all right? Listen, listen. All the name
calling and all of that stuff, that's
good. That that I don't care. I don't
know the Bible and all of that good
stuff. That's fine. Listen, I do care,
right? That's why they have courts out.
Listen, listen. I let you talk. Listen.
>> No, you didn't let me talk. Listen, hold
on. You didn't let me talk.
>> Okay, but but you told me you was going
to give me the same respect. I let you
>> I'm going to give you the same respect.
>> Listen, I listen to you. I listen to
you. I listen to you, good sir. Listen,
I do care about the uh about the body of
Christ. I do care about the people
that's in the pool pits. I watch their
fruit, okay? I go by the the uh Bible
verses that they teach and the context,
okay? I go to great lengths, but I'm not
going to go all the way out and base my
channel on trying to expose others.
Listen, my thing is, right, is that us
as believers, man. We have a lot going a
lot much more that's going on right now,
right? Other than trying to expose and
and do XYZ. I care about the body of
Christ. But my thing is, man, like you
caught saying that I don't care or I
would let a murderer walk in, man. Like,
you don't even know me. You don't know
me. You only know me based by all by
this conversation, right? And no, I
wouldn't let a murderer go or let a
child sex predator go. Why? Because
that's why they have courts. Why? Courts
and all of that h has been set in place,
right? Let them let that deal with let
the courts deal with that and they and
they can they can get out the church uh
as as they should. My my whole uh my
whole point is is that I don't know what
happened and you can expose and say he's
wrong. And listen, like I said, I'm
praying for the brother. I'm praying for
the ministry. I'm praying for everybody
that's involved, right? Um
>> that God will not only restore him, but
God will restore people that that has
been at that ministry that has um that's
if something happened to them, I pray
that God will restore them. Okay. I call
s out. I don't play about sin. I have a
family and we raised and and we raised
under the Bible uh under the teaching of
of the word of God. All right? So like
>> So if you thought that there was
somebody at your child's school, but
listen for you to tell me that I don't
care about
>> We're going to find out. We're going to
find out. We're going to find out. Rob,
if you knew if you don't know me either,
Rob,
I don't because you if your children
>> Grace and peace to you, man.
>> Rob, grace and peace to you.
>> Listen, grace and peace all that. I'm
ask you a question. Let me ask you a
question. If your kids were in danger or
someone new, if you I'm assuming you
said you got a family, so I'm assuming
your kids are underage cuz you're just
34. So, I'm assuming if if your children
were going somewhere and there was
somebody there that was trying to prey
on your kids, just an allegation.
>> They wouldn't be there. THEY WOULDN'T BE
THERE. They
>> cuz all the predators are gone.
>> But listen,
>> all the predators are gone. You know
what, Rob? Let You know what? You know
what?
>> I'm going to go to the police and let
them know.
>> Rob, let me just say this, Rob. Let me
just say this. Let me just say this,
Rob. Rob, let me say this. Let me say
this. In Jesus name.
>> Father God, in the name of Jesus, I pray
that this idiotic young man never comes
back. He is stupid. Wasn't supposed to
say that word, but you are stupid.
Cory, you're not being nice. No, he is
unlearned and ignorant. You want people
to go someplace here? Let me ask you
guys a question. Let me let me ask you
guys a question because I want to ask
this this this this young man a
question. Does he know what this is?
Does anybody know what this is?
Can anyone Does anyone know what this
particular picture is right here on the
screen?
Do you even know what that's a picture
of?
That's a whole bunch of dead bodies
right there.
That's about That's about 900 dead
bodies right there. That's That That's
what that is.
Rob has no idea what that is. That came
from this man right here. Does anyone
know who this man is?
He's the reason why we had those 900
dead people. You know why? You know why
those 900 dead people right there?
Because people like Rob, let's just pray
for them. Rob, you are idiotic.
I pray that you go somewhere and sit
down and when you sit down, you shut all
the way up.
You mean to tell me
there are allegations? See, you're a
hypocrite and a liar.
I wish
I wish you I I I wish you knew what you
were talking about, but you don't. But
you're young. Hopefully, you grow
because you've fallen into this idea
that
we should just leave it alone. Let them
take care of it. No.
So, women are being taken advantage of,
men are being taken advantage of,
children can be taken advantage of,
people's doctrines are being screwed up.
And so at the end of every doctrine, bad
doctrine is a a soul. No, it's okay.
It's okay. Who are you to judge? I'm
giving I'm literally giving you
scriptures and you don't have anything
to say about it. That's how I know you
don't care about the word or people. You
are a liar.
Wonder if you're even a believer. Cuz
you can't tell me you love God and love
people and you won't warn them.
In Ezekiel, the word is since you want
to go to the Old Testament, he says the
watchman who stands on the wall and sees
danger and does not warn his brethren,
that person's blood will be at his hand.
You won't warn. You're like,
ain't my business. A It ain't my
business. You're selfish.
You're selfish. You have no love for
your fellow brethren.
So if your children go to a school,
listen how ignorant did did you hear the
ignorant thing that he said? If your
children go to a school and someone knew
about some allegations you wouldn't want
them to tell you, they wouldn't be
there. You mean to tell me there are no
predators in any of the schools. Not one
predator.
Not one person with any sort of
allegations. None.
Now, I'm not going to say I hope no one
tells you or warns you about the danger.
I hope they do. I hope when there's
danger, I hope people do warn you. I
hope.
How many people were alive? I'm sorry.
How many people were grown in 2001?
Just say amen or yes or one or I was.
Were you grown? Were you an actual adult
in 2001?
I remember a particular day that we were
I was heading to the office. my wife
were the the kids were homeschooled but
and so she was taking the kids to a
homeschool co-op
and I remember when those planes hit
that building.
I remember that.
And that same day people asked the
question, Rob,
they asked how could this happen?
Surely they were signs.
Surely this could didn't just happen out
of thin air. These were orchestrated,
coordinated attacks. How did it happen?
Well, as it as it just so happened,
there were signs. What were the signs?
Oh, some people, some men from the
Middle East signing up to learn how to
fly an airplane,
not knowing how to take off and not
learning how to land a plane. They just
want to know how to steer a plane.
There were some people who had came from
from places from countries
that had had ties to terroristic
organizations.
No one bothered to check or no one
bothered to tell anybody else about it.
Why? So we had this state this this
statement that came across after that
see something say something.
So we can be diligent. If you see
something it may not be a big deal it
might actually be something.
If you hear about, and here's the
problem with you,
you are an immoral acting person, Rob.
Let me just say it again. So these
women, all of these women who are
putting their face and their name and
their testimony out there, I know it
came from Seyo. I know he I know this
this man has done all sorts of ungodly
things.
We're not listening to him. Now, some of
the information he's collected, fine.
Amen. But we're talking about the
people. We have people that literally
just left his church
saying the same thing.
People who were there saying the same
thing. And the problem is not that you
are asleep at the witch at at the
switch. You want everybody else to do
the same thing. You are not only it
would be one it'd be one thing if it was
just you turning a blind eye. You want
everybody else to turn a blind eye. You
don't want anyone to sound the alarm to
warn when we've got scripture after
scripture after scripture after
scripture.
That's why you have the Jim Jones of the
world. That's why you have, oh, how
about Apostle David Taylor? That's why
you have these people out there who are
like that. A senseless man has no
knowledge, nor does a stupid man
understand this.
I'm I'm this is now I'm not just going
off just calling any and everybody
stupid.
But a person who is intentionally
putting their fingers in their ears,
ladies and gentlemen, that is stupid.
That is stupid. And if that's you, you
are a stupid person. I'm not just
willingly calling folks stupid. I called
one person stupid. No, two people
stupid. No, one person stupid.
Apologized. And so now I'm labeled with
as as the person that's always calling
folks stupid. No, but he is.
Our problem is we don't think people are
what they really are. We don't think
people are what they show themselves to
be. G. Craig Lewis has shown himself to
be dangerous.
G. Craig Lewis is showing now out of his
own mouth. I'm not calling him stupid
because I don't know him. I'm calling
him stupid because of what he's saying
to people. And we what we ought to do.
We ought to turn our eyes, turn our
backs, turn our ears away on danger.
If he if he thinks he's being slandered,
well then he ought to do what he hadn't
done in the last 10 years and come out
and prove his point. But he won't do
that.
You want people to ignore sin. Well, why
didn't they call the police?
And I'm not going to try to impugn the
man's level of understanding, but it's
not that great.
Why don't they I just told you it's it
didn't break the law.
It's breaking God's commands. It's a
violation of what God wants.
So what do we do? Well, God wouldn't God
don't want us to expose. He don't want
man to expose. I literally Is there Is
there a verse that tells us we should
expose it? Is there a verse? And then
what did I do? I gave him a verse and he
act like the verse didn't exist. Well,
that's a good verse, but still. That's
that's a good verse, but still. Do not
participate in the unfruitful deeds of
darkness, but instead expose them. Well,
that ain't for us to do. That's for God
to do.
What a ignorant thing to say. What a And
worse than that, listen. Worse than See,
the benefit is that this person is
actually acting stupid.
That's a good thing for his sake.
But do you know what's probably worse
for Rob than the fact that he's just
ignorant? You know what's worse for him
is he's heartless.
See, let me put you guys on the screen.
People think that everybody minding
their own business is doing a good
thing.
Everybody that minds their own business
is doing a good thing. I see somebody
over there getting getting um getting
robbed. Let me just look the other way.
is. Come on, kids. Don't bother me. Come
on. That's none of our business. I see
someone somebody break into somebody
else's car. Just look the other way. Go,
go, go.
Okay.
It's what's wrong with this country
right now.
That is what's wrong with I'm not saying
you got to go out and be some kind of
Karen.
I'm not even telling you to make a
citizen's arrest,
but tell somebody who can do something.
warn the people.
That didn't cost you anything.
But you don't care about people, Rob,
and anyone else that would defend G. I
don't believe it. I don't I don't
believe it. I I I can't believe it. Why
can't you believe it? If David
can sin,
G. Craig Lewis can't sin.
Nobody else can sin. David can sin. But
I don't believe it. That's because you
don't think, you don't use the Bible,
you don't care about the Bible. All you
care about is being left alone. And
probably the reason is is because if you
call out someone else's sin, you open
yourself up to being called out for sin.
Search me.
Find the person that can say Corey Miner
is in sin right now. Find it.
When I was when I did sin and I was
confronted with it, you know what I did?
I owned up to it. I didn't want to go to
jail.
Hey, listen. Please let me I don't
listen. Give me a year. Give me a couple
months.
Rob, what you don't know cuz you don't
care about the Bible, cuz you don't care
about God. Indicated because you don't
care about people. What you don't know
is everybody that ever wrote a page of
the Bible warned us about false teaching
and false teachers. They've also warned
us to be on the lookout for dangerous
people.
Paul says they come as angels of light.
They look good. They sound good. They're
going to say a lot of things that are
true. Jim Jones did it first. You don't
get 900 folks to kill themselves or you
help kill them. You don't get that to
happen if you don't gain their trust.
And you gain their trust by having a
Bible and saying nice things.
This is the part that you just you you
have literally um upset me now.
And I'm not upset. I'm not out of
control or losing anything. I'm saying
in all seriousness, in all calmness, Rob
is stupid right now.
Thankfully, Rob, your stupidity is not
terminal.
You can be healed.
All you've got to do is take two doses
of Bible in the morning and call me.
Yeah, do that. Read your Bible. Pray.
Ask the Lord to fix your heart to give
you a heart that cares about other
people.
Do that.
No, I don't I don't I don't believe it.
I don't there's there's just no way that
this human being could ever be doing
this to other people.
See, I used to live with those sort of
people, those wretched people. A guy
that I I I live with a guy. I didn't
live with him, but I was in prison with
a guy. Everybody, man, it's a nice dude.
He was just He's here on some sort of
financial issue. That's what we all
thought. The guy's here for something
financial related.
So, he wasn't out there trying to hurt
anybody. He may have defrauded the
government or something like that.
No. And he loves the Lord. He's always
got his hands up singing praise to the
Lord and trying to and trying to tell
people about God. all those different
things.
All those different things. And then we
found out
we found out
he had two children chained up in his
basement
cuz he wanted to share the gospel with
them in the basement while they were
chained up.
That's that's why
This is the problem that we have. Why do
you think we've got the churches that we
have out there today? Why do you think
we have the new births with Jamal
Bryants? Why do you think we have the
Mike Todds of the world? Why do you
think we have the the Jake's
Incorporated? Why do you think we have
the Joshua Jos? Why do you think that
you can have a person like Apostle um
Taylor who's doing these sexual things
and these inhumane things to human
beings? Why do you think we can have
that? Why do you think you can have the
Joshua, the apostle Joshua, whatever his
name is over in Africa who was doing
these things to these girls? Why do you
think we can have those things
happening? Why? Because people who name
themselves as Christians
will ignore sin.
It'd be one thing if the person came out
if if G. Craig Lewis came out and said,
"I didn't do that." No. Matter of fact,
I got they're lying. I can show you
they're lying. He hadn't done that.
instead ostracizing people, putting them
out, trying to quiet them. That's what
he's done. And you appreciate that.
That's so cowardous, so heartless, so
cold, unloving.
That is that that's just evil.
I'm not one of these guys say always
believe her
because women can lie.
Those videos don't. Those f those files
on that computer don't.
the man all the recordings all the
listen
and again
look past Seiko Woods look past him
there are people
by the way one of the guys that was on
the panel is not that great a friend of
Seiko I won't say which one it is cuz I
I've I've got that person's number
talked to him before now not like we're
we're bosom buddies
but the evidence evidence seems to be
there. And so when I ask the person, but
these are just accusations though.
What does the Bible say though?
What does the Bible say? The Bible says
if you're an elder,
you cannot be accused of dissipation.
Does that mean that anybody can bring up
an allegation that means you're
automatically disqualified? No. No. But
if you're in the process, if you are
being accused,
being accused. Now, this is part of a
prepositional phrase. So, this means
that the person is being accused and
nothing's happening. Not denying it, not
fighting it, nothing. These are these
act these heavy accusations and they
can't be dismissed.
That's what we're saying here.
That's what it's that's what it's saying
here. So, he can't buy the Bible. What
does it say? Well, you got to prove it
true. Is that what the text says? And
what what did Rob do? Nothing.
I pray that nothing ever happens to your
family, Rob. after there were a warning
or someone refused to warn you.
I wouldn't I would be upset if one of
you guys went to a restaurant, found out
that there was some some it had bad
ratings, um, roaches and rats and all
these different things. people had food
poisoning and you know I'm going to that
restaurant and you don't warn me or if
I'm driving and the bridge is out and
you don't tell me
the building's on fire and you don't
tell me to get out
I'm taking my kids to a to to some place
and the person there has had these
different allegations against them and
you don't tell me
how would you feel
if you took your child somewhere
and you found out that uh someone that
you knew knew that you were taking your
child somewhere and knew that there were
allegations there, wouldn't would it not
make you want to do something to that
person? Like you you you didn't tell me
what we're not friends.
We are not friends.
And we've got this culture where we
idolize people so much so that you can't
say anything against them.
No, he has he hasn't. Nope. He hasn't
refuted anything. He hadn't refuted it.
Matter of fact, he's refused to speak on
it.
Let it go. Rather, what he'll do is call
the people who say something gospers.
Now, this is my first day ever speaking
against G. Craig Lewis. This is my first
day ever doing so. So, I don't have a
habit of not liking the person. I've
heard bad things about him in the past.
All right. And I said, you know what?
Maybe one day I'll investigate,
but I'm going to turn an eye on this.
No, I'm not. And I'm not saying that
he's totally guilty. Can't say that. I
can say that this what the scripture
says how we treat this person.
Fred Price Jr. says that uh it's wise
for you to sit down. No, the Bible says
he has to sit down. He's not qualified.
If you've got these outstanding
allegations, so you either defend him or
you accept them, but he hadn't done
either, which means you are now to be
treated this way. And you show people
the the scriptures, they don't they
don't care about scriptures. So when you
now don't care about scriptures, you
just you care more about your favorite
preacher,
then you care about the preacher more
than you do the preached word.
I've had people that I loved or I cared
about or thought highly of who who
disappointed me. I got to follow God.
Got to follow God. I love God more than
I love you.
And that shouldn't come as a surprise.
Do you all love God more than you love
me? Do you love God more than you love
everyone else? You should
keep telling yourself that. I love God
more than I love you. I love God more
than I love my children. I love God
more. That way, nobody can make me move
away from what the word says.
You got all these people going out to
this church and what are they doing?
They're just kind of batting down the
hatches and circling the wagons coming
in. We going to fight this. We going to
fight. Again, we see this virtually
every week or every other week. We saw
the woman. You all saw the woman that
loves her some prophet Brian K.
You're not going to touch my pastor.
You're not going to touch my prophet.
And then she go to speaking in tongues
and you're not going. I know I walk by
faith and not by sight. He ain't going
to jail. Meanwhile, he's at jail. He
just had a standup count an hour ago.
And you still follow him.
after all the women who came forward and
we got video evidence of this other
woman kissed on. We got all these
different all this evidence and they
still they still go to bat for him,
man.
Wow.
In the face of everything, you still
And I could have understood if Rob was a
woman.
I could have understood that a little
bit better.
No, I don't. No, no, no, no. Because who
knows? Who knows what Rob has been
involved in? So, I don't know.
But nothing these days um shock me. So
people who want to defend them. I get I
get it.
I get it. You have no love for mankind.
You have only love for your own selfish
motives.
You should you should fight tooth and
nail
and then I'll go to to take some more
questions. Actually, no. No, I won't.
But you should fight tooth and nail
for these things in order.
Order number one, the first thing that
you fight tooth and nail for, fight it
like it's your last day on earth. Fight
for the name of Christ.
Fight for the name of Christ. Don't let
anything distort or sully the name of
Christ. That we got to take care of.
So if someone is doing something,
behaving in a way
and it sells the name of Christ,
you got to go. We've got to pull you
back. We've got to call. We got to do
what Paul said. What I'm doing, Rob,
listen. What I'm doing, I'll continue to
do so that I will undermine,
cut off any opportunity for anybody who
wants to be called a Christian, who's
not, whose actions and doctrine show
that they're not. I will continue like
Paul said, this is Paul's words. First 2
Corinthians 11:12.
I'll keep doing this. I don't want you
to think that person's a Christian or
his actions are Christlike. No. So the
first thing I'm going fight tooth and
nail for is for the cause of Christ, for
his name. Secondly,
for the people of Christ. Let me just
tell you how evil
what you said Rob was.
It's not our business.
Neither mind our own business.
So if someone's being abused, someone's
being taken advantage of, it's not our
business.
Let it happen. Let them deal with it.
I hope I hope to God you are not in a
position of authority. And I hope you
never get to a position of authority
with that attitude. You don't care about
anybody. But really,
now this makes sense if you're in sin
yourself. Maybe. Maybe.
Maybe.
So when a wolf is attacking the sheep,
you don't turn your back and say, "I
hope the sheep can fight the wolf off."
It's not what you do, Rob. That's not
what you do. You don't turn your back.
You don't leave the sheep defenseless.
You go help you. First of all, you warn
everyone else. The wolf is the last
person we care about. In this case, the
part of the wolf is now being played by
G. Craig Lewis. The wolf is the last
person we care about. So first we Christ
second the sheep
the sheep. Lastly
we want to see G Craig Lewis repentant.
That's the last thing
you don't go and see about. Can you
imagine some somebody is beating up some
some old lady and while he's beating her
up you're praying for him.
You're trying to help him. No, you stop
the attack. you help her. The last thing
you do is you deal with the the the the
the culprit, the perpetrator,
God, his name, the sheep, the people,
and then lastly, if you get around to
it, if possible, the perpetrator. Does
that make sense? I hope that makes
sense.
Now, that being stated, um I will bring
you on in a second, Jason. You'll be the
last person to come on. Let me answer
this last question. Uh, Sylvester asks,
"Do you agree with the statement, don't
build your theology on Acts?"
Don't build your theology on Acts. I
wouldn't say um, you build your theology
on the whole of the Bible. So, there's
portions of Acts that you can you can
look to. Um, you don't build your
theology on any one book or any one
chapter.
Um, now does Acts inform certain
portions of of our theology? Sure.
Because Acts was a transitional book
doesn't mean that we can't learn about,
let's say, how the Holy Spirit works
because we're told how this is going to
work before it happens. So your theology
is is is inclusive of all of the Bible,
how it works together. And so what we
see happening in Acts was told before
Acts happened. And then even after we
have verification. So, Acts can even
Acts the book of Acts can even point to
um some of how God works in some case,
not all cases, how the Holy Spirit was
given to people. Clearly, it's different
then than versus now. We got it going
from the Jews to the Samaritans to the
rest of the world. Amen. Amen. All
right. Uh I'm coming to you, Jason. Give
me a second.
Hold on one second.
And by the way, let me just say this
also. This is why
Corey, these women go to bat for you on
other channels. Well, dog on it, God
bless them.
Let me say this, Pip. Let me say this,
Pip.
Could you say
that I have
shown myself at least available for the
critique?
If you got an issue with me,
there's the link. There's the door. You
can come talk to me.
And then I've seen people say, "Well,
y'all just caping for Corey. Y'all just"
and they said, "No, this is a scripture.
Corey was just right on this or wrong.
Don't just don't don't just say folks
are capable of Cory because you want to
make you want you don't want to seem
like hey I'm just following. No no no
no. If what I said is right then what I
said is right. I didn't write the book.
I didn't write it. So therefore
if someone by the way don't defend me
defend the word. If I'm defending the
word then defend me defending the word.
I don't think highly of myself.
I don't I I do not. Cory you're
arrogant. No, I'm not. Let me just say
this. No, I'm not. I don't think high of
myself. I don't try to build myself up.
I don't try to promote myself. I don't
try to get more for me. I could actually
do it. All those folks that had those
those little statements to say, you
couldn't prove it if you wanted to.
And I'm intentional about that.
So,
I'm going out. Now, do I do I speak firm
and harsh sometimes? Yeah. But that's
not what humility um is. That's not what
arrogance is.
An overinflated view of yourself. I
don't have that anymore. At one time I
did. And then I I came face to face with
God who took his big old pin and poked a
big old hole poked a big old hole in my
balloon and busted it.