Investing With the US Debt Situation...Stocks, Bonds, RE, Bitcoin, Gold...
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The video addresses the escalating financial instability caused by the United States' unsustainable debt trajectory, highlighting recent warnings from figures like Ray Dalio and the market's volatile reaction to rising interest rates. The speaker points out that a significant portion of the federal deficit is now consumed by net interest payments, which are projected to exceed one trillion dollars annually by the end of the decade, surpassing the primary deficit itself. This situation creates a dangerous spiral where attempts to engineer lower yields or print money to service debt only push rates higher, leading to faster economic breakdowns. The speaker notes that even if politicians choose the path of least resistance by printing money, it inevitably leads to recessions and currency debasement, as seen in Japan's long-term stagnation where wages have fallen drastically relative to other nations.
In response to this macroeconomic uncertainty, the discussion shifts to investment strategies focused on capital preservation rather than speculative gains. The speaker argues that traditional assets like cash are becoming less reliable, while gold and Bitcoin remain unpredictable regarding timing despite their potential for significant appreciation. Instead of relying on shiny metals or volatile cryptocurrencies, the emphasis is placed on real, producing assets and value investing principles. For instance, while Berkshire Hathaway is described as a financial fortress with steady returns, its stock price has already risen significantly over the last decade, meaning much of its future growth is priced in. The speaker advocates for a mindset that prioritizes safety margins and avoids leverage, suggesting that investors should only deploy money they do not need for living expenses or debt obligations.
Ultimately, the core message is that value investing is not a one-time solution provided by a banker but an ongoing process of research, analysis, and patience. The speaker illustrates this with examples like Archer-Daniels-Midland, showing how entry points change over time as prices rise, making earlier investments less attractive. Rather than trying to predict exactly when a crisis will hit or where gold prices will peak, the strategy involves constantly monitoring businesses for opportunities that offer a margin of safety. By focusing on understanding business fundamentals and maintaining a conservative approach, investors can navigate potential market crashes and government interventions without panic. The video concludes by encouraging viewers to adopt this disciplined mindset, prepare for various scenarios, and utilize available resources like research platforms and educational courses to build resilient portfolios capable of withstanding future economic shocks.
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I got two emails recently. One was from
Ray Dalio, how countries go broke. The
other was Anthropic big plans to go
public, bigger than SpaceX. And I want
to discuss this because this was a great
LinkedIn article by Ray Dalio. I urge
you to read it. There were other
comments going on like Citadel treasury
buyback repression, what's going on. But
the markets have been reacting. The
30-year yield going up reaching up 4.7
on 10-year, gold reacting, Bitcoin
exploding, the dollar index weakening.
As the dollar, if they buy more, if they
print more, if they try to engineer the
situation, then it gets ugly. Even the
great Druckenmiller said how buying back
and engineering that bond yield is
something that you pay later. In the
meantime, Anthropic is rushing to get to
the IPO because now there is still a lot
of money despite they have raised 65
billion in May just a few months ago.
They want to go big and raise even more
because now they can and nobody knows
for how long will these good times last
because this is the key chart, one of my
favorite ones. If you look a little bit,
deficit going closer to two trillion per
year for the US government. Net debt to
GDP of the government going higher, but
the key here is net interest rates
payment one trillion. So, more than half
of the deficit goes for interest.
As interest rates are going higher, this
will be two trillion by the end of the
decade, more than the deficit. Then you
can see here more of the deficit is for
net interest payments. That's not
sustainable. If there is a recession,
not these rosy projections by the CBO,
then it all breaks, all the financial
system breaks, and when it starts
breaking, it breaks extremely fast. We
cannot predict when it will happen, but
we can discuss how to think about that
from a personal investing strategic
perspective. Bonds, stocks, gold,
Bitcoin, whatever, Berkshire or
something else. When it comes to the
situation, we all know that they're
going to print more because the solution
is, like Ray Dalio says, 3% deficit. If
that happens, all Western countries go
into recession, politicians lose their
jobs, it gets ugly. So, the easiest
thing is to print money, intervene into
the bond market like that, but that
pushes rates higher, which can create a
spiral faster. You can see here, we were
all expecting lower rates here, just
temporary inflation, and what happened
to rates? Japan, all those rates went
higher. Germany, bond rates are higher
than they have been in the last 15
years. So, the first solution is ugly,
the second solution is ugly, the first
is better long-term pain now, but nobody
wants to take the decision. Who is
thinking long-term? Nobody. Dalio says
that his guess, which will be a bad one,
is that the reckoning will come in three
years, give or take two. So, when he
says that, it can be one to
five. And the thing is that he has been
right on all the calls he made in the
past, he has been right. Cash is trash,
cash is better, this, that. Pretty much
right, but he's vague on the timing, one
to five years, therefore also his funds
do not really good. The strategy is to
protect capital. Okay, that's a
different story. A great example from
the LinkedIn article, can we just print
like Japan? And look at this, the
Japanese worker wages have fallen 55%
since 2013 in common currency terms
relative to wages of the American
worker. 76% losses in bonds to gold
since 2013. Those are staggering
numbers. Then he expects Bitcoin and
gold, he you're always cool when you say
that. We'll discuss that, too. The
problem is with yields. Stocks 1%, what
does that mean? What is the return you
get? And the thing is that all of these,
you can't nail them. Dalio says, because
you can't nail exactly what will happen
to be diversified. I'm more of a value
investor. I'm for win-win situations.
What does that mean? When mortgage
rates, 30-year fixed mortgage rates were
in the low single digits, 2-3%, what was
I discussing here? Buy a home, take a
30-year fixed mortgage. I made this
video 2021 for my brother. He didn't
buy. His now spouse did. So, so they are
set on that. However, win-win
situations, let's look at those win-win,
which is the essence of value investing
in this environment. 1% yield, P ratio
is 30.
The average P ratio was 15-16.
If we ever return to here, that's minus
50% for stocks. The thing is, businesses
are not bad. Protect from inflation, can
transfer prices, will survive,
especially the good ones. But all of
that is already priced in at these P
ratios. So,
it's unlikely we'll get more protection.
You already got that over the last 10-15
years when the government printed money,
bought this and that. That's already
happened. Gold, it was 5,000, then it
went to 4,000. When it was below 3,000,
I told you gold will hit 5,000 and I'm
telling you now gold will hit 10K and
then even 20. But, the thing is that I
don't know when. So, it might do that
next year. It might do that in 2040. And
then, compared with inflation and this
and that, now, especially after the run
over the last 2 years, again, a lot of
the good seems to be priced in. Yes,
we're living in an environment,
especially if you check Bitcoin, where
value to price doesn't matter. It's all
a gamble. And the same holds for gold.
I'm more leaning towards real assets,
producing assets, not shiny metal. Then
we have Berkshire, Berkshire B ETF. We
discussed it in this video. Depending on
the valuation, depending on this, there
is a productive return, 4-5%, 6%. It's
not bad. It's financial fortress. But
then again, the stock price is up 4X
over the last 10 years. For a
conglomerate like Berkshire, a lot is
priced in. My message is always value
investing. Sven, how do you invest?
Well, first and foremost, value
investing is not a solution that you go
to the your banker, drink a cup of
coffee, the most expensive one is in
your lifetime, and then he gives you the
solution for everything. Value investing
is about waiting. We discussed strong
buy, Archer-Daniels-Midland, food. Thus,
inflation does this cheap. The price was
50. Was 70. We discussed it and now it's
close to 80. Or what is it? 77. So, here
it was a starting idea to add to your
portfolio. Now, a year and something
later, it's not that good anymore. I
wish I could give you answers, but it's
all a process. Daily says 3 years, 1 to
5, keep that in mind. I cannot predict
that. Perhaps in 3 years gold will be at
3K or at 10K. We cannot know that. But
then we look at value, we constantly do
research, we analyze businesses. For
example, Tencent we recently discussed,
Berkshire, many other, Uber, depending
if you want to bet a little bit more. I
just updated my value quadrant. There
are some interesting buys there. You can
check the whole video. It will be in the
link in the description below. And
that's what I do. For me, it's a
process. I follow a lot of companies.
When something hits margin of safety
value, then it goes into my portfolios.
My book will be coming out soon, so
that's something to read for a mindset.
Value investing is a mindset, not this
this this structured and it's done.
There is a free value investing course
in the link in the description below.
And it's a process of risk first. If
there is risk, we don't do nothing. And
if there is no risk, then whatever
happens with governments, with this, you
are okay. That's the win-win message I'm
trying to share. Not predicting where
will gold or Bitcoin go. Then I always
make conservative analysis. If the price
is right, then it might get me a win. We
discussed HP. That's also 50% up. Now,
not as interesting anymore, but it was
interesting. And then here a great
comment. People should invest house,
less leverage. Then again, something
that I don't think gets across very
good. I expect you always invest only
the money you don't need.
House, mortgage, life, debt, safety.
That's all set. Then you start thinking
about investing. And that's something I
see a lot of people missing. There's
something to think about before the next
crisis. Check what I do on my research
platform. There are some value investing
buys. The value investing quadrant,
interesting, educational situations. See
how it fits your portfolio. Who knows
what will happen in the future. I like
to be ready for whatever.