Interview with Carolina Araujo, new holder of the Ramanujan International Chair
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Carolina Araujo recounts her academic journey, which began with an expectation of becoming an engineer due to her parents' profession. However, during her first two years at university, she explored various disciplines including physics and chemistry before discovering mathematics in a serious course that defined her path. She explains that algebraic geometry, her primary field of research, functions like a set of senses used to understand the world; just as humans rely on vision, smell, and touch, mathematicians utilize different "senses" to grasp complex problems. In this framework, geometry is described as the study of shapes, angles, and distances, while algebra involves the manipulation of symbols and equations.
The core of her work lies in bridging these two distinct mathematical universes to gain a deeper understanding of mathematical objects. Araujo illustrates that solving an equation explicitly can be extremely difficult, yet the space of solutions often possesses a clear geometric manifestation, such as the circular shape formed by points satisfying a specific equation. By combining algebraic analysis with geometric intuition, researchers can understand the behavior of solutions or analyze the curvature of trajectories through the underlying algebraic structures. This synergy allows mathematicians to tackle problems that are intractable when viewed solely through one lens, effectively building connections between abstract symbols and tangible shapes.
Beyond her technical achievements, Araujo reflects on her realization regarding gender injustices within the academic community. Although she initially held a privileged view that may have obscured these issues, conversations with other women and observing their experiences made the inequalities clear to her. This awareness motivated her to use her position in her career to advocate for change and support other women facing similar challenges. Her commitment to addressing these systemic issues demonstrates a strong sense of responsibility and a desire to create a more equitable environment for future generations of researchers.
Finally, Araujo expresses deep admiration for the International Centre for Theoretical Physics (ICTP), describing it as an inspiring place where she has made significant breakthroughs throughout her career. She notes that her visits to ICTP have always held special meaning for her research, with her most recent three-month stay marking the beginning of a crucial new project. The center continues to serve as a vital hub for her work, providing the environment necessary for her ongoing discoveries and contributions to the field of mathematics.
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My parents are engineers. So I thought I
was going to be an engineer. But then in
the in the first uh the first two years
of university, I tried many different
things. I took classes in uh in
engineering but also in mathematics and
physics and chemistry. And then but
since the first serious class that I
took in mathematics I was I knew that
that that was my path. So um then since
then I haven't left math.
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Okay. So maybe to talk about algebraic
geometry which is my area of research
maybe I should talk about the different
areas of mathematics more generally. So
the way that I see this is um it's like
our senses. So to to understand the
world that we live in, we have all our
we have a vision and smell and taste and
and touch. And I think mathematics is
the same. Uh we have there are many
different mathematical senses that we
can use to understand better a problem.
And among these two senses there is
geometry and there is algebra. So
geometry is concerned with studying uh
the the shape of objects. So we
understand shapes, angles, distance and
in algebra is a it's a different it's a
different way of of understanding
mathematics. It's a it's a it deals with
manipulating symbols. So for instance,
if you have an equation that you have to
solve, sometimes there is a formula. So
this formula is explaining us how we can
manipulate the symbols in the equation
in order to to come up with the answer.
So this is this is how I sort of
describe algebra in a in a
sort of simple way and then in algebraic
geometry we put these two senses
together to better to better understand
some of these mathematical objects. So
for instance, sometimes you want to uh
you would like to solve an equation or a
system of equations, but this is very
sometimes it's very difficult to solve
it explicitly.
However, the space of solutions, it it
does have a a geometric manifestation.
For instance, you have the you can write
down the simple equation of a circle. So
you can look at this from the point of
view as of equation. There is there are
some symbols that you know mean
something. But it also if you look at
the points that satisfy this equation
this has the the shape of a circle and
then in algebraic geometry we we often
build the bridges between these two
universes. So sometimes you want to
understand the solution and you do so by
understanding the the geometric behavior
or sometimes you uh you would like to
understand say the curvature of a
trajectory and then you do so by
analyzing the equation and and and the
algebraic structure that is behind. So
this is more or less what we do in
algebraic geometry. We exploit this two
senses.
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It was just much later after talking to
many to many other women and and
observing their their experiences that I
realized that there were some um some
injustices that were very much present.
Even if for me maybe from my privileged
point of view it was not clear at the
first uh in the first moment.
And then I think there was uh I think by
um
by being bit upset with these injustices
and and I felt that then at some points
I I in some moment I realized that I
could do something that from my from my
uh from from where I was now in my
career I could do something to change
the situation for for other women and
then I I naturally embrace this this is
I guess stronger than
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I have to say I love ICTP. It's a it's a
wonderful place. I feel very inspired
here. So I spent many I I visited ICTP
many times and it always meant something
very special for my research.
uh so I made some some important
breakthroughs while I was here at ICTP
and so it was very very important for my
research and also um I think the last
time that I was here for almost 3 months
it was um that's when I got into a new
project
and um
and this is a project that is is really
important to my uh to my research right
now. So, this is it's always been a very
inspiring place to be.