“I Lost $100 Million Partying” - Scott Storch TELLS ALL: Diddy, Suge Knight, Dre, Kanye & Kim K

The world's never heard these stories. I'm just letting it rip today. Do you ever do anything with Kanye, man? He used to be one of my musical heroes. Used to be. Turned out to be a piece of lose it if I see this guy in public, man. What was your relationship with? You get invited into the house. Not many people get into the house. Nobody was taking advantage of Bieber knew what the [ __ ] he was doing. He was trying to hang out. That's good. I'm cool with everybody, man. Like, I don't know. Maybe not after this interview. I had the first Bugatti. I bet that's Kim K. Yep. She made a song, by the way, called you Scott Sto. I can tell you that's a funny story. Did you and DMX do anything or no? And he's smoking crack while they're handcuffing him like with the handcuffs on getting his last hit in. It was like the blind leading the blind. Can you imagine? Like, man, you really need to get your [ __ ] together. I'm laying some secrets out for y'all today, bro. This is all real talk. What do you think about music these days? This is whack. Is horrible right now. Honestly, like good music has no expiration date. [Music] [Laughter] [Music] I can listen to that on repeat. I made it stutter and go. [Music] 30 seconds. Did you ever think you would make it? I feel so taste sweet. Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever sign. It's right here. You are a one of this before. Scott Storch in the house. How you doing? I'm chilling. Thanks for having me, man. Yeah, it's crazy. We were having dinner at uh Shout out to Martano. Oh, yeah. Stevie. Stevie. And we're over there and I'm with some friends. You're with him for some friends. And I'm like, babe, is that Yeah. What? Well, how you doing? And we're talking outside and then uh few months later, Adam, you guys are talking. I don't How'd you guys get linked up all of a sudden? We have a couple mutual friends, MJ, Buddha, a couple guys. And then we the night we were talking. I was telling him what I do and Scott sometimes will play it cool. And at the end of the night, he goes, "Is this your guy right here?" Shows picture of you. And I'm like, "Yeah." He goes, "Oh, this guy we had like" And then it's been races ever since. Yeah. I remember. But you know, so I know you know you as producer what you've done. But then Adam's like, "Do you really know?" I'm like, "I think I know. Pat, let me tell you what this guy's done. I'm like, what has he done? Then he keeps playing hits after. I'm like, there's no way he did this and he did this and he did that and he did this and I pulled it up. I'm like, okay. So volume, here's volume of number one hits. You did Beyonce Baby Boy, Fat Joe's Lean Back, 50 Cent Candy Shop. I mean, Candy Shop, right? Mario Let Me Love You, Chris Brown, Run It. And you've worked pretty much with everybody and anybody. You didn't even scratch the surface of some of my biggest records. Crimea River. I mean, there's so many. Crimea River, Justin Timberlake. Yeah. I mean, I there's so many. Still Doc, Still Dre. Um I mean, countless. Honestly, I've done more music, I think, than any producer, period. Oh, what? Fat Joseph. Fat Jose Spotify has your all your songs 53 billion streams is what he said. Yeah, it's more than that now. And it's the top like 1%. Like it's like there's only a few people up that high in terms of streams and Drake is one of them. I'm one of them. And you know, it's it's an honor, man. You know, I I'm passionate about what I do. I didn't do it for the money. I did it for the love and the passion. And then you you know, if you have passion for something, you're going to, you know, excel at it. But the stories, man, I mean, the stories goes with the the parties, the ladies, the names, you know, the best of the best at the peak. It goes on and on and on. So, a lot of that stuff was postwork, you know what I mean? Like I was work work work work work work work work and then all of a sudden, but we'll get to that later. How do you get started for you? How to get when like at the beginning did you since you were a kid like you know you know for an artist comes in here say you're an architect you're like I don't know if I would have cut the doors this way and I would have cut it this way. Do you go to a place and if somebody goes and you're likeun do you automatically link every sound to creating a beat? Is that how your brain is wired? No, I'm receiving satellite. I swear to God. Like you ever drive somewhere and like you like black out and you're like, "How did I get here?" Yeah. That's how it happens for me. I'll just It's like, "Oh [ __ ] that's it." Throwing [ __ ] against the wall. Would you mind if we just start off with you doing a couple of the beats? Sure. For the audience to know if you want to if you want to invite in I I I want the audience to kind of My friend Jaylen is here. This is Yeah. If we can get Jaylen, our handsome son. That's right. Jaylen, the guy could be a model. Good-looking boy. Is he here with us? You know what? I can say something about all my children. Sperm one. Really? All right. Jaylen. So, if you can help set them up one by one by one, I want to see. By the way, when you're listening to this, folks, the moment he does, you're going to be like, "No." Oh, yeah. Flipping way. Um, we can start with um, you want to help him put that mic in front of him, Rob, so we can catch him there as well. Whatever you want to start off with. What the hell is that? The polarity is wrong. Turn my headphones up. Turn my headphones up. Keyboard. Let's lower octave. [Music] All right. So, should I just get right into it? Get right into it. Um, the audience is going to get it, especially if they're our age. They're going to sit there and say, "Oh, shit." I'm going to like preface this with a few things. First of all, music today is made with computers. And just like, you know, like even like movies back in the day were made with the story, the the you know, the acting, everything had to be like intense because there was no CGI, there was no this and that. And like people like the Beatles or whoever would sit down with no electricity, a pad and and a pen and a guy on a piano and a melody was written. And that's where the substance comes from. And that's why, not to toot my own horn, but my records are timeless. Like good music has no expiration date. You could put it on now or then and the [ __ ] is forever. Like my catalog just keeps going. Whereas most records now, people like them, but it's like fast food. That's it. And it tanks. So, with that being said, like I have a couple of the records that I've done. They are like considered to be um some of the most um iconic, I guess, piano riffs or whatever in in the history of music. One of them is um you know, my buddy Dr. Dre and I, we made the Chronic 2000 album together, and this was one of the pieces I came up with in the uh [Music] That's Now, let me ask you this, Scott. The first time you presented this, was it freestyle or you did it privately yourself? Freestyle. So the first time you showed him this, what was his reaction? I mean, I've told this story before, like we were working in the studio and it was like towards the end of the making of the album and um he programmed the the drum pattern and just left it playing and went into like the kitchen, which is an earshot to make like, you know, sandwich or something. And um I just, you know, was throwing [ __ ] against the wall and I started playing that and I was thinking to myself, why not play something really sloppy instead of going I made it stutter and go like I make it the wrong is the right. Sometimes our our imperfections is a perfection. So I did that and like all of a sudden Dre opens the door. like that's it. That's my [ __ ] single. It was like that. And by the end of the day, he sent it off to do um Jay-Z to write it and it came back and it was fire. It was [ __ ] fire, dude. Oh, trust me. I know. Cuz we played it. Everybody played it. Give me a roads and Scott, who were you at that point when Cuz Dre was already Dre, but you weren't known at that point. I knew you were with the roots, but at this point, Dre was here. Where were you? It's It's um You should have your headphones on, man. Um I was um the producers producer. No, I mean like honestly I I I I started in the roots and did a lot of stuff for them. Very underappreciated and I was the guy who like again came up with a lot of the nucleus of what that [ __ ] was. And I left the group and was told that I was like the Pete Best of the Roots. You know, Pete Best is the guy that quit the Beatles. The Beatles. Yeah. Yeah. And like I mean, even my girlfriend like broke up with me because of that and said, "Oh, you [ __ ] up." And this and that. I was like, "No, I didn't. Like I see bigger. I'm not going to go on the road with a bunch of guys that don't appreciate me and be like, "That's the white guy who plays keys in the Roots. No, I'm the [ __ ] guy coming up with all the shit." They didn't appreciate you. Not at all. They call me the white devil and I'm like the most harmonious, loving, nonracist person ever. And like it just hurt me. I was like, "How'd you meet him? How'd you How'd you link up with them?" Um cuz my I work out to one of the songs from Roots, the one that you did. Yeah. Well, that wasn't made for the Roots. That song after I left the Roots, they realized I guess that they needed me still. And I was, you know, I got my own little studio in this place called Sigma Sound where all the like disco stuff was recorded. This is where what city? In Philly. Okay. And they record there downstairs. So, of course, they come upstairs and they're like, um, you got anything? And they saw I was working with this girl. I'm working with a girl who at the time worked at Urban Outfitters and now she's one of the most legendary u neo soul legends, Jill Scott. Of course. So Jill Scott was not an artist. I was like, "Yo, you should be an artist. You're awesome." She was like working at Urban Outfitters and doing an off Broadway uh rendition of uh Rent and um Quest Love came in and heard what we were making and he said, "I got to have this." And that was You Got Me, the song you like to work out to. And um for they told me like when I gave it to them, I was like, "Make sure Jill stays on it." And at the last minute, they switched it to Erica Badu. Huh. But Jill wrote it. Erica Badu. And a lot of the people that I brought in the studio like that that I believed in that were the writers, they became stars. Like Neo before he was an artist was the guy that did Let Me Love You With Me with my boy Cam. But um so uh what was I gonna play? This is how it's doing that. Reload it. There we go. So this is a little something. I remember sitting in Westlake Studios just again trying to receive satellite and just like all of a sudden [ __ ] spontaneously happens and me and Justin Timberlake were sitting just the two of us in this like tiny little in there's a big live room and then there's the small one and I had the Fender Road set up and [Music] [Laughter] [Music] You get the idea. I already know. I found out from And is it typically like right off the bat? Cuz when you hear that song, that song, it it stays. The simplest [ __ ] is the most infectious [ __ ] sometimes. Like less is more. Wow. Um, [Music] I can listen to that on repeat. Yeah. Oh my god. I've probably listened to that song 500 times this year. That's the truth. There's passion in that. Yeah. You know, I didn't learn how to play. I didn't get taught. I just I had a cassette recorder. I would put on this broken shitty upright piano that my parents had when I was a little kid. I just boom. Oh yeah. I just put it like What was the inspiration though? Like what who did you look up to when you're coming up? You know, when I was that age, I was like 10 years old and I was listening to a combination of people like Azie Osborne and Iron Maiden and Mottown and Earthwind and Fire. I I got this cassette called the 25th anniversary of Mottown. They they even did a live show. legendary the that's where Michael Jackson kind of unveiled the moonwalk and all that Barry Gordy thing. Um so yeah, I just taught myself how to play and and like I've always just was winging it and I moved to Philly. I grew up in Florida. I moved to Philly at 15 and like I was like just going into ninth grade and I would just we were in the suburbs of Philly and I would skip school and go into the city and try and find musicians and I met these guys, you know, Quest Love and all these guys and we would set up on the street and like borrow power from a store and and we would just jam and we got ended up getting Wendy Goldstein's ear who was a Geffen and she's now the head of Republic. Um, she was a Geffin. She was at Geffin and an ANR like Yeah. And we got like, you know, a great deal, you know what I mean? None of us made any money or anything like that from the earlier stuff. Um, but yeah, like how did you get linked up with Dre? with Dre. I went to LA for the first time and there was a girl from Philly randomly out there who had like ran up to me. She's like, "Scott," and like I put her on You Got Me as well. She was one of my friends. And I don't know if you know who that I'm talking about, but it's Eve, you know, the rapper Eve Mrs. Gumball. Yeah. So Eve, um, she's like, "Yo, you always were cool to me." And her her brother E-rex. And they were like, "Yo, we're going to get you in with Dr. Dre." I'm like, "Dr. Dre? Are you serious?" And it's the first time. I'm like broke as [ __ ] And, you know, three months behind in Philly on rent. And I go in to see Dre and they, she, you know, she kept her word. And I went in, I waited in the lobby for like four hours. And then they said, "Dre's waiting for you in the live room." I had no music to play for him. And I go in and he's like, "You said you good on them keys, man." And I was like, "All right." And I just thought to myself, I'm not going to play anything I ever played before. I'm going to do the most ominous like gangster type [ __ ] that I can think of. Not like the punk [ __ ] that the West Coast was doing at that time. I was wanted to do something because I know Dre is into that type of stuff. and let's do some and I played for a couple minutes and like within an hour I had like a hotel key for a nice boutique hotel like 10 G's. all my problems were solved. And I remember I went back and I got my stuff and I started a new life at that point and I had to have like all my [ __ ] sent from Philly to LA. And like Dre and I just were like the next day I went in to meet him in the studio and he's like I got this like white rapper kid. He's really dope. His name's Marshall and like we made just the two of us that day which is like his first release on After. No, serious. Marshall matters. You know, we're watching 8 mile with the boys. Yeah. Yeah. And then the next day I hit I struck gold again. Like you know, I we're not on every day. Even Dre, this was Dre's expression. He said, "You don't have to be on every day, just most days." You know what I mean? Like, which means your success rate. We're human. But if you're really the [ __ ] you're usually going to come with that fire. And when you first time met Marshall, when you first time met him, he had black hair. He was chubby. And it didn't look nothing like Did you Did you feel there was something special, bro? He's right off the bat. He's a beast. But right off the bat, you felt it, huh? Well, you said this guy's different. Yeah. Immediately. And I knew obviously Dre has his ears are priceless. So, you know, his ears are priceless. So, he can Yeah. When I went to tell like the people in the roots that like I was still like talking to sort of that I was going to work with Dre, they were like, "Ah, you working with Dre 10 years too late, bro. Good luck. Like, yeah. And we went on the run of runs. Did they really lit up? Yeah. They're just all haters. What happened to those guys? They I mean, they're on the Jimmy Fallon roots. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not trying to just dog them out like whatever. That was a part of my journey. Same group. Yeah. Can you pull them up, Rob? Yeah. They're on Jimmy Fallon every single night. Yeah. But do they make new stuff or it's just they're playing whatever that they're playing? I don't know. You would know that one. I don't know. Like I mean, they they they play a lot of like cool music. What what year were did the baby you got me if you 97 I mean okay so and then I want to say chronologically if if we go in order Marshall Mathers the uh his first album that came out in '98 that was before the chronic 99 99 okay yeah the end of 99 believe it or not hi my name is uh my name is So that was before you did still Dre well uh yeah Dre released him I think if I remember correctly first our um the chronic album Dre's album was um came out in 2001. We started in 99. Yeah. And and and when it comes on to him, okay, first impression walks into the room, your feel, your vibe when you meet him, what's he like? Forget about one, you know, some funny dude. He is a funny dude. Yeah. Yeah. He got a lot more serious over the years, but like Yeah. He's just funny dude. Like super cool. Eats Taco Bell every day. Literally every day. Um Yeah. He's a cool guy. He used to come to the house and make beats with me. He's such a like, you know, like the things that make me laugh that would stand out with Eminem and M. Like I remember Dre walking in the studio and I just happened to be in the room with M and M was adding the album was done and um he was adding sound effects like actual sound effect like things that related to his lyric like if it's a gunshot or a you know something dro whatever it is he was like you know a glass cracking whatever it is like he was just doing that and I remember Dre being like yo enough of them [ __ ] sound effects man it's done but he's like a mad scientist he's like involved. He's not just the rapper. He's like producing the album, bringing the magic out of it, the sauce. What was the schedule like? Like you guys are coming in late. You're going till 6:00 in the morning. What was it like when it worked? Not Dre's crew. It was organized. It was 3:00 to like 2 or 3. 3:00 in the afternoon till 2 or 3. Yeah. Every time. And he was super. So, what are you guys doing when you guys in there together? What does it look like? I mean, it some it's it's different different days. Dre has like specific like casts that are on like certain days like sometimes it was more intimate. It was just he and I and u maybe one other guy and engineer and then it was like sometimes a lot of people like you know sometimes you bring in percussionist so that you know the characters change in it but you know the nucleus of a lot of the things this is you guys here. Yeah I was a nerd. How old were you in that picture Scott? Uh well, if I'm 51 now, that was in 99. 36 years ago. 99 is 36 years ago. Remember I dropped out of school. 26 years ago. 99. 26 years ago. So 51. You're 25 years old. 25. So are you at this point? Have you already started playing experiencing Hollywood ladies partying or not yet? No, not at all. Disiplined. Yeah. Yeah. And like you know I there was some fun moments in there. There was like a skit on the album where he wanted like the sound of like sex stuff going on and like all these porn stars were brought in and like it was that was a fun session. Wait, the porn stars came in for the sound? Yeah, got on microphones and just like made sex sounds and [ __ ] like that. Yeah, that's it. They came in just for the dude. Dre is so cool with this. I've seen Dre have stone and a shovel to catch a like all kind. It's all set up in the live room with mics on it and [ __ ] like insane. He goes to different levels than most people. But look, I worked with Dre. It was a great period of my life, but it was some point that I realized that Dre has his empire. It's now time to build mine. You know what I mean? And um that moment happened at the at the Grammys in 2005. In 2005, I went there and a lot of the music obviously, you know, the one award that a producer can get is the producer of the year. And I watched Dreceive the producer of the year. I was jealous, I think, because I was involved in some of the music that year and I was like, you know what? I want I want that for myself. So, I told Dre, I love you, best of friends. I'm going to move back to Florida. I'm not going to make gangster music. I'm going to just go a different direction and just try try and build my [ __ ] And then that came to 2006. I had almost like I think it was like 32 weeks at number one something crazy of all the you know the records that I did from Let Me Love You and Baby Boy, Naughty Girl, Me, Myself, and I, Candy Shop. These were all in like this all these hits I made that year. And I was like, I'm going to be the producer of the year. I broke every record there is as a producer to break. And I remember I was sitting with Marilyn Manson and my girlfriend at the time was Paris um Paris. Yeah. And we went there. I left in disgust because I wasn't, you know, one of the nominees, but I wasn't nominated and I couldn't understand it. And I realized it was it ended up being one of one of this guy who produced like two songs for the Gorillas, but he was there's a thing called the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences, Narris. They're the who decides who gets the Grammys. It's like a panel of you got to be their poster child and suck their dick all [ __ ] year long. I was busy making music. I was in the [ __ ] trenches like getting it in and like going beyond the the abilities of any human being. And they, you know, because they're like, "Oh, how did you touch the culture?" And it's that I killed it. I was I was all culture, but it's like they get to do what they want to do. And um yeah, [ __ ] the Grammys. How do you feel about There's nothing stats in that. Like there's no, you know, it's not like Billboard awards or something. So I Yeah. So let me ask you with the Grammys, just just out of curiosity. I mean, it's got nothing to do with this. I want to come back to Paris and I want to hear Candy. I want to hear all that stuff. But with Grammys, why is it everybody thinks Beyonce? How much power does Beyonce have? I don't know. I I I can I can turn that story around. I when we did that Dangerously in Love album. Yeah. One of the biggest honors of my career. There's a video clip you could find online where she's accepting her award for like best album or whatever this and I forget what the category was. She thanked Jesus. She thanked me. And then she thanked Jay-Z. I was like, "No, I beat J." What is this? What is this? No, it was a vital part of the album. Like we we sat in a studio for almost a month and just thugged it out. And like I brought in somebody from Philly who was like an old school rapper that I just knew would add some like some street to it with her like perfect prettiness of like a lot of stuff she writes. It was a gutter. It was we made like some amazing [ __ ] Who was in the uh in the studio with you and Beyonce at that time? um this writer named EST from Three Times Dope, which is like a old school rap group. And I convinced Beyonce like, "Yo, this guy's going to add something to it." She's like, "I I trust you." Whatever. And um that was it. I produced all at that time like everything by myself. I didn't have any like like now you'll see 20 names on a [ __ ] song. And what was your experience working with Beyonce? Was she a diva? Was she sweet? Was she fun? She was an absolute dream to work with. So like talented. I mean I would say like some one of the best singers in a female like soul singers ever to live from Artha Franklin, Patty Leel, Beyonce. There's range power in that voice and she has a a distinct um idea of what she wants. She's an intricral part of the writing and one of the most talented people I've ever worked with. Really? I mean, we made one of the songs that I love. I mean, everybody knows that, [Music] but she was likeing Yeah. Yeah. That's a naughty girl. And we did the baby boy. No, go back to the other sound. But we made the one that I love the most, which is me, myself, and I because it was like very like heartfelt. The I added a nice surprise chord. I can't believe you know. Sing it, Scott. It's like Rod Temperton singing like the Michael Jackson songs. I want to rock with you. Oh, no. So, while you were while you were there with Beyonce, where was Jay-Z at this point? Were they married? Were they together? Yeah. Yeah. I I'd rather not comment any of that stuff, but like Yeah, they were I mean, he wasn't around, but you know. Okay. She was in there focusing on her album. But did you work with Jay-Z at all? I've worked with him. Yeah. Yeah, I worked with him. I had a bunch of [ __ ] I did with him and and Timberlin the Ola Vito all that stuff I played all How was he like what was he like he likes to get people on their toes I remember one time he came to the hit factory Criteria Studios in North Miami and it's probably one of the most legendary studios in the world forget about Miami but like Timberland would have his studio on one end of the building I had my studio on the other And I remember Jay-Z came over and um he said, "Yo, Scott Timberlin making some fire over there." I was like, "Really? Really?" I get a call like from Timberland. He's like, "What you making over there, man? Jay-Z came over and told me that you had some super fire over there." He was trying to get us on our competitive to get the best out of us and like get the eye of the tiger out of us. Like piss us off like, "Oh, he's his [ __ ] was hot and mine." was like smart guy. Did it work? Yeah, it kind of Did it Did it work? It got you guys, too. Yeah. I mean, I guess it did. We figured it out though. What was it? Did you ever do anything with Kanye? With Kanye? Yeah. Um, man, he used to be one of my musical heroes. Used to be. I mean, the music is still great and that won't change, but as a person who was my friend and somebody I I I thought was an amazing person, one of the most creative people, turned out to be a [ __ ] piece of [ __ ] And I will [ __ ] lose it if I see this guy in public, man. you know, like the disrespect that this man did to Jewish people and just labeling us and like glorifying Hitler and [ __ ] like that and then doing it again and like really going like for the jugular. If I if I was in a room, I'd probably [ __ ] crack him in his face. And like he broke my heart. One of his people, Chay, that like works for Good Music is one of my friends. And I said, "Yo, tell your man he hurt me. Like, I thought I was his friend, but I guess I can't be his friend cuz I'm Jewish." Like, word. Like, you're going to glorify that? What if a motherfucker's walking around talking about glorifying like slavery and [ __ ] like that? Like, how does that work? Like, how are you going to do that and just like hurt so many people? I don't know what the what the what was behind that. like shock value at the expense of like so many people's heartbreaking and like we lost Kanye like I threw out all my Yeezys and like I couldn't believe I mean are you aware of like how this dude like he really went in man like on some hate [ __ ] like I don't get that like yeah the Taylor Swift [ __ ] was funny like sort of like whatever but this is a different story man why do you think I mean you're you're in the world why do you think he did I don't know man like a lot of cool Jewish people like help help them rise to the top. You know what I mean? There's a lot of cool people. Are you are you in contact with him? Like, have you asked him? Have you approached him or not? No, I sent a message to him just telling him he broke my heart. I'm cool. It's all good. You never got back to him. He's a clown, dude. He's a clown. Made great music, but he's a [ __ ] clown. No, it's I'm not going to hold back. I might get some backlash for the [ __ ] I'm saying. I don't give a [ __ ] I'm good. I'm good. Like, I'm good. like these types of quotes over here. I'm a Nazi. I love Hitler. Now what? It's one thing as as for me, I don't know Kanye like you do. Like this is a guy who like tried to like friend of yours. Yeah. Like did he forget that this is the guy who like [ __ ] like burn people in gas chambers and like innocent people, kids innocent. Like what the [ __ ] is that? What kind of clown [ __ ] I know you want to be witty and you want to be original. You want to be cool and say some off the cuff [ __ ] or some weird [ __ ] That shit's not cool, man. Who the [ __ ] are you? Who's who's closest? Because when when you saw this pattern, it was right after what happened with his shoe deal. It was right after Kim K, right after things happened, marriage issues. Who's in his ear that he would listen to? Who do you think he is where he can explain why he's gotten here? Cuz he lost a lot of money. It's not like this was a smart business decision. It cost him billions of dollars. Who's in his ears that he will listen to? I don't know, man. I don't know. He ain't listening to nobody. He got some screws loose. But is John Monopoly still managing him? I have no idea. What was the What was the last time you had any interaction with him? Last time I met him over at He called me down to meet him at um Rick Rubin studio. Got the Beasty Boys and [ __ ] He had a place called Shangerla in Malibu. And I remember when I got there, he was in a meeting with James Pur, the clothing guy, and waited and we just hung out for a little bit. And it was all good. What year was that? I don't remember. This is you and Kanye. Yeah. Yeah. Listen, that [ __ ] It hurts me to like lose people like that, but like I don't care, man. I don't got time for that. How close were you guys? Not close. Not that close, but I don't know. But on the music side, I mean, it's obviously you appreciated his talent. I mean, he's Yeah, he's a beast in the studio. But that's no excuse. Look, I got my faults. I was [ __ ] like maniac cokehead and lost $100 million like partying and [ __ ] That shit's not smart either. But one's a disease and one's hate. So whatever. I have a good heart and I I think all people are created equally and you know I don't care what race, creed, color, this that you are. We all the same. We all [ __ ] brown. Like you know it's so funny like I always make this analogy like in terms of like Middle Easterns and Israelis or whatever. I'm like we all eat kebabs, man. Like it's all good. You know, but like I don't know. It is what it is. I just got to move on. you were talking about earlier when you went to the Grammys with Paris and you guys you guys used to date you and Paris Hilton. Yeah. I mean, how did that happen? Um, she came I was living at the time on Indian Creek Island. Um, why I left there I'm [ __ ] [ __ ] Vanka Trump just recently bought that house. I you know bought your house. Yeah, my old house. My old house. But after that house, I sold that house. I bought it from the um founder of Southern Wine and Spirits and then I sold it like a couple years later to move closer to disaster which was I was safe in Bow Harour like and then I moved to Palm Island and that's where all the [ __ ] up [ __ ] happened. Um so yeah, Paris came to work with me. We ended up dating and um had a relationship and she introduced me to like paparazzi, night life, [ __ ] being like the man, US Weekly, [ __ ] you know TMZ, like this whole party life and wild [ __ ] like that I never experienced before cuz I was like in the studio night and day. I was rich. I had every car you can imagine, but they only went from the house to the studio and back. like friends would come over and like they would go to the club and then they would come back after but and I would ask them how it was. I think I was like nervous to even be cool at that point. And then she came along and I was cool and I got addicted to that. That was some douchebag [ __ ] on my behalf that like I got so caught up in that and I changed who I was. Like I was hanging out with like people that are just not good. Like people that think they're better than others. Like um I don't want to call out names, whatever. It's too insulting. but just like Hollywood douchebags and like you know you you are what you hang out with and it changed me from being this like innocent like soulful like you know organic person to like this quest for fame and this quest to like like I wasn't even like really that sprung on Paris but I think we both used each other I had music and she had fame and we were just like cool no great connection yeah there was a there was a story that came out a video that was shown saying, "Back in the days when Kim K was Paris Hilton's assistant." Yeah. Was it true? Was Kim K Paris's assistant? Yeah. She asleep in my guest room. Yep. And then some weird [ __ ] happened. I'm not going to say what happened, but And then she made it to the to the master bedroom and was Yeah. Paris found out or No, it was just like she and I were done and like I think we're both like had it and we were like commiserating. What did he say? Karen's she's she's commiserating at the house from the good fellas and whatever. Uh Karen. Um yeah. So like yeah, we ended up being a thing. Like she was awesome, bro. She was a super cool girl. Kim Kim was awesome. Yeah. Like what was awesome about her? She was organic and she was just like, you know, eager to like she wanted to like build her her her career up. She kind of followed Paris's blueprint with the foreign [ __ ] after whatever. But at that time she was just a cool kid. And like put it this way, there's a video on YouTube somewhere where I'm pulling up in car number four Bugatti Veyron ever. So like it was the new thing like people were reintroduced to Bugatti and I pulled up with Kim Kardashian to mansion on Washington Avenue. Yeah. 12th in Washington. Is that it? Yep. That's it. That's funny. You guys are quick. That's my car too behind him. That was my driver that used to carry all my drugs for me. Mercedes Maybach. I think that was Yeah. 62. Yeah. And that's you and Kim. I bought one of those from Paris. Yeah. That's me and Kim. But if you listen to the audio on that, nobody knows that's Kim. They're just like, "There's Scott Stewart." Scott Sto. Yo, in the Bugatti Scott, if I put this, I would say the captain will be first. I had the first Bugatti. First, Andrew Tate can thank you is what you're saying. No, I taught [ __ ] how to ball. That's Kim K. Yep. So, at this point, are you guys an item or just obviously? Yeah. And what did how did Paris feel about the fact that, you know, she went [ __ ] No. How did Paris feel? What did this do to her relationship with Kim? It didn't help. It was done already. Oh, was done already. Point. Yeah. Yeah. Like all fake [ __ ] dude. I I must stop. I I have so many sub stories within that that would have you like if if I told them, but it's just like Yeah, Kim was abused like by that friendship taunted because she was so hot. I guess there was maybe jealousy or something. Who was so hot? The Kim. Kim was hot. Yeah, she was hot. Was it more physically hot or her energy, her spirit, her everything? Everything. her mom was hot like that, you know, like she was dope like back in the day like she just that family, you know, they was cool. But she's like she had she was at a low point like too like some guy that she was with like I think like blew her inheritance or something at that point like that she got and one of her dudes like yeah she like she was like taking punches but she said [ __ ] it I'm going to go there and she did it and then she had the last laugh. She definitely did have the last sub. She's still laughing. How's the relationship today with you and Kim and Paris? I'm cool with everybody, man. Like I don't know. Maybe not after this interview. No, but I I just recently got uh spoke to Kim not long ago and you know we laughed about you know old times and [ __ ] But yeah, she's she's hella cool. She's still Yeah, she's been through a lot, man. Like that marriage with that [ __ ] [ __ ] bro. I can imagine that takes its toll because I know other people that have dated him, too. One of them's Amber Rose, who's like a [ __ ] amazing person. We call her Mother because she's such a motherly person. And um this dude used to like make her like try and dress her and like like a doll like you know like a weirdo. I'll never forget Kanye, not to just be on dissing Kanye, but I remember he came in to visit me and Dr. Dre and we're in the studio in the middle of making beats and we were like kind of interrupted, but we were like, "All right, cool, whatever." and he's like, "I need to take a picture with you guys." So, we took a picture with him. It was cool. He left left the building, went to like drove somewhere, came back and said, "My outfit wasn't right. Let me take another picture and said like and me and Dre looked together like [ __ ] what the [ __ ] is this shit?" He stormed out of the studio one time later. I was told I wasn't there with Dre and he said he called him the devil. He's like, "You're the devil." And he ran out like Kanye called Dre the devil. Yeah. Yeah. What prompted that? I don't [ __ ] know. You're making devil music for me or something. I guess he was on his holy kick at that point or whatever. You're making this You're making devil music for me with Dre, huh? The world's never heard these stories. I'm just letting it rip today. [ __ ] it. Good. Yeah. Everybody's going to be pissed in. Who cares? Well, I mean, I'm like the grumpy old man. [Laughter] But, by the way, did you ever watch uh the movie Straight Out of Compton? Yeah. What did you think about it? It was cool. It was cool. I mean, you know, it's Hollywood movie. You know, a lot of the [ __ ] gets exaggerated a little bit. I don't know. Can be. Yeah. But I mean, those guys like they're forefathers of of rap music and um the independent record label and [ __ ] like that. Like there's many things about that like that changed the face of music. Dre is a beast. That's all I can say. He knows. Some people know how to start a record. He knows how to finish a record. There's another producer like that, Lou Bell, who does all the Post Malone [ __ ] So, super talented guy. Super organized. Like almost reminds me of uh what's the guy 10 minutes to Wapner. Um Rainman. Rain. Like he's [ __ ] Rainman. The guy is so intense. Lou Bell. Yeah, that guy. He's another like in a different way, but like that level of that Dre is at. knowing how to finish a record. He does like um him and Andrew Wyatt, they do they do like all the Post Malone [ __ ] He's a modernday genius. But um where did I got off track? Yeah, you were talking about, you know, Kanye, you were talking about Kim Paris, you know, how that whole thing came about and pulling up in a Bugatti, the Ford one. Ralph Lauren beat me. I think the first two were not sold, but it was car number four of that. And in this whole Dre situation, you're in the studio and all this. When does Snoop come into your situation, bro? Very early. That was one of the coolest things. Yeah. Well, tell us about Snoop. He's awesome. He's He's awesome, bro. Um I consider myself like, you know, a lot of people like, "Yeah, I'm cool with Snoop." Me and him are pals. Like, we're cool. Like, he's always shown me love and he's such a humble guy. I remember one time I went to his house in Claremont back in the day and um he's um one of my mug shots. That's nice. Um he um What are you going to pulling up mug shots? No, one of um he was like sweeping up his own house and [ __ ] and I was just like he's just a cool guy, man. Loves to smoke sweeping up his own Yeah, I remember he was just like cleaning up and [ __ ] like Good for him. Did you ever film What did you What did you produce with uh Dre and Snoop together? Still Dre. So it's okay. Yeah. The number one, I think, rap song in the history of music. There. And then in that time period, but I did stuff on Snoop's albums, too. Okay. But but look, going to these sessions and becoming part of this album that was like I think there was like a lack of like where we're going with the sound before I got there. I mean, it was like cool. And I got there and it's like all of a sudden there's this like not punk thing happening anymore. It's like more orchestral and like like ominous sounding [ __ ] Um that's when we started like and like went into these sessions and I was meeting people that were like blowing my mind every day like Snoop was there, this one, Ice, all these [ __ ] amazing people were there and I never was around famous people like that other than the roots like and it was it was so amazing. What was the one time when someone walked in, you're like, "Get out of town. This guy's here." Who was that? Um, all kinds of weird people. I mean, nobody like I'm just like maybe just like thrown off like by a certain like Paulie Shore would walk in the studio like just random people like who the [ __ ] he would like take pictures of a casino man there. He and then in in this time period, Death Row Records, Tupac had recently been killed a few years prior. What was Suge Knight's involvement on this? What stories do you have of Suge? My Suge stories were a little later. They were like seven, eight years later, but you know, there's good and bad in everybody, but I know that um you know, I don't I don't know what happened uh because I wasn't there like with between him and Dre and all that [ __ ] so I can only speculate. But I was living in LA in Ted Field's house that was prior to me living in in this area called the Summit. Like really prestigious gated community. And if you know anything about LA, you want to be in Beverly Park where Rod Stewart and all these people live and or the Summit. So the Summit in Woodland Hills. No, the Summit is um in Beverly Hills. Okay. Yeah. And like everybody lived in there. I mean countless people. Um Van Halen, all these people live in there. And I was in there in this is like a replica of um I think it was like the prince of Monaco's house. Some crazy [ __ ] house like and I I rented it like and I one day I'm like coming back like maybe the third or fourth day um living in there. I see Suge and his son walking and I was like, "Shuge lives in here? Interesting." So, he noticed me and then like randomly we ended up like hanging and um yeah, I mean, I don't know. It is it is what it is. It was a bittersweet relationship, but you know, I still got love for him. He is the guy that got Tupac out of jail and blessed us with that for the world. like but um you were mentioned something earlier about uh what's my funniest Suge story. Suge and I went to Vegas one time together and checked into the Cosmo and I was in a room under his name. He got the rooms when I was This has got to be last 15 years cuz 15 years old. Yeah. Yeah. And um there's a knock at the door, security. I'm like, "What the [ __ ] going on?" There's an unpaid mini bar bill. I'm like, "What the [ __ ] What's going on?" Obviously, I'm a [ __ ] up at this point. I'm completely out of my mind on drugs, coke, ecstasy, and and [ __ ] everything. And unpaid. I was like, "Okay, I'll go down and pay it." This and that. They just want had gots for [ __ ] sugar. All right. And I go I'm taken down not to the front desk to pay this mini bar bill, but I'm taken to a holding cell. Mind you, I had like bags and when they knocked on the door, I grabbed it and put it in here. As soon as um I I I was a [ __ ] idiot. I I was like, "Can I have a tissue?" And I took one of the bag I put the bag in the tissue and threw it in the garbage. A cop comes running in. We got it. And I was off to jail in PC, handcuffed to a [ __ ] for like two days. And um he finally shuge bailed me out. And um then he got arrested for I think throwing a bag of McDonald's out the window of my Bentley Muslain. And it was just the most random [ __ ] like yeah on the same train. We were like let's get the [ __ ] out of here, bro. It was just one of those moments. It was such a dysfunctional moment, but you know, we'll just say that he and I were not on our like best level of our lives. Scott, how did you how did you get into the whole like once the first time you did Coke? How old were you? Like when you started getting into It was the year I think I'm 2006. Oh, so 99 You're doing stuff with Dread. You're doing nothing. Nothing. My whole life. I told you I was introduced to a certain life when I [ __ ] I'm not blaming her. I'm just saying that wife introduced me to drugs. So, first time you did it, who was it with? Use your imagination. Oh, okay. So, the first time you guys Okay, the two of you together. Got it. And then from there, was it like zero to 100 million like this? It was [ __ ] fun. What do you mean in terms of how quickly did you go through the $100 million partying, The Fast Life, the X, the Coke? Did it last a few years? couple month million a month like you know three million. No, I was going for a minute like I was living great but like I was I said this like recently but I I I was a collector of things like chachkas whatever you know what that is. Chachki chachkis like Schwarzki yach and this and that pieces of art, planes, boats, you know, um anything I had 30 cars, you know, whatever it is. I like was like 30 cars. Yeah. I remember Mike Gordon, the guy that owned the Fort Lauderdale collection, he sent me home one day. He said, "You have everything. Get the [ __ ] out of here." I was like, "What's that classic back there?" It's a cuda. I'll take it. And he kicked me out the door. I was like, "No, I want it. I want it." And who was in your corner at this point to being like, "Scott, pump the brakes." My financial guy who said I was unmanageable, huh? Yeah. I would buy [ __ ] sometimes just to like prove to myself that like I was like a human, like I was cool because I to make up for the like low self-esteem for knowing what I was doing with drugs. So, you knew what you were doing was wrong, but you overcompensated with material items. Is that what you're saying? I guess. Yeah. I would like be [ __ ] up for three days and feel like a piece of [ __ ] Feel like an animal. Um, and like I would order like four cars like just like make myself feel better. What did you buy? Like are you anything SLRs, Aston, this that the other whatever was cool at the time. Mercielos. Tell me about your upbringing. Mom and dad relationship. Who are you closer? Not really close with my parents. I mean, I love my mom. I love my dad. I just lost my dad. I Sorry to hear. I kind of like grew up not understanding the dynamic of my parents' relationship. And I was like always like as a kid blaming my dad because they broke up and like this and that. But then I realized they're both humans. My mom was nagging the [ __ ] out of him. She was like uh Bayside Queens. Sound like France wrestler just like bitching at you all the time. Just hypocchondric and just But I love her. She's a great heart with you know she got she's like you know what Mother's Little Helper is the song um from the Rolling Stones about Valium. 40 years of Valium 50 years of Valium does something to your brain. Wow. Yeah. And then combine that with after my dad, she was with a Frank Deo, the famous hitman. And uh that was like she was with Frank Deo. Yeah. Like she was like Frank Deo. No, there's Roy De. There's a bunch of them, but like Yeah. This guy's from Sheep at Bay, Brooklyn, and he was a hitman. His father was an under boss, Jimmy Deo. And there's quite a few Demos in the mafia world, but like this guy um I remember like she's like, "Why don't you go with Frankie?" And like, you know, you bond with him and this guy was a racist [ __ ] [ __ ] But like I remember he takes me I'm like 11 or 12. He takes me to uh the hardware store. He wanted to get a nozzle for the hose and he's like has a stack of money like this in his pocket and he's like $13. [ __ ] that. And he puts it in his pants. Don't tell your mother. Then we go from there to uh his house. He was living in our garden apartment in Inferrary at the time, but like he was like, "We got to stop by my house." Where he was selling coke out of or I guess or whatever. And all of a sudden, I hear I'm waiting in the car like and he lived on a baseball field. I remember seeing him chasing some guys that were probably robbing his drug spot or something in there and like firing guns at him and [ __ ] and he's like like all this crazy [ __ ] I was just like, "Don't tell your mother none of this." I'm like, "Holy shit." Is this Roy Deo? No, Frank Deo. Frank Deo. Yeah, he was like uh you know the expression a knockaround guy. A knockaround guy and is like the lowlevel gangster guy. His father was an under boss. He was the [ __ ] like he was, you know, this guy was like um um again like you could probably find [ __ ] about this guy for sure. He was involved when my mom met him. He was like running the Tin Lizzy. It's like one of these restaurants in Fort Lauderdale. And Bobby Rabbino, all these guys were involved in that. Bobby Rabbino. Bobby Rebino. Place for ribs. Yeah, these are like [ __ ] mafia bots, bro. Really? [ __ ] yeah. [ __ ] cash cows. But um so yeah, like that was like that was one of the reasons why I moved in with my dad. Like cuz I remember like one of my first experiences of trying to make music. I was doing anything I could. these kids that were like new edition cover band. We were called the Omni5 and there was like four brothers and me. And like I remember he came home and it's like hot Florida day and there's like five brothers in the living room with no shirts on and he's like get the [ __ ] out of here with your your mom's in here. I'm like so like whatever. I like man [ __ ] this. I'm going to my dad. I moved in with my dad and then he moved to Philly. How old were you when you lived with dad? 15. And mom didn't mind. She didn't have prom. I mean, part of it like also is like she broke up with that guy too short after that and then like she didn't because I was going to go back and live with her again after that, but she couldn't. She lost her alimony because he moved in with us in in so she moved in with her parents who live in Lauderdale West and there was no room for me. So I stugged it out with my dad. I didn't want to move to Philly, but I'm glad I did. Everything happens for a reason. It's all written in the stone. So you were closer to Pops. I became, you know, like I said, like I I, you know, I wasn't thrilled with him, but he was definitely a more a stable parent. Like, you know what I mean? His thing was the ponies. He liked the he liked to play like, you know, I got a new system. I'm got the sheets and the this and that. Like always like um look, casinos don't make money from the buffet. So, so was was the was the chaos from your upbringing something that put the fire in your belly to keep competing at the highest levels to kind of prove value to yourself. Was it kind of like well cuz when you're talking about you just bought four cars like you know you're like every time I want insecure like Yeah. You know what's so funny though? I'm going to come back to what you just said. Lately my motto has been you don't need to have a Ferrari, be the Ferrari. You know what I'm saying? Like I'm like I'm potent when I talk to a girl. Like I feel like I don't need all that [ __ ] I don't need this. I mean I have things but like I typically don't I don't like even like really like that [ __ ] doesn't matter anymore to me. Name brands and [ __ ] I'd rather wear a black t-shirt. And you know your son's sitting to your left the the the the weird life you've lived. What advice are you giving him? I mean you're open about it so it's not like you're you know he knows dad. He's giving me advice. What the [ __ ] kind of [ __ ] This kid, his work ethic is so crazy. Like he'll he'll be working before you wake up and working when you go to sleep. I love that. He's that dude. I love it. And he absorbed this [ __ ] Like he's he's another alien and such a good soul. So does it come natural to him how it came natural to you? Did you did you teach him? How does that work through the blood? [ __ ] Yeah. Yep. He's just passionate. Like I said, anything you do is you do it for passion, not for money. And like you get good at it, man. [ __ ] money just comes from that. Like me and him have like made we're making records together. Like all the [ __ ] I do now, I do with my son. But by the way, what's the business model when you say you went through $100 million? That means you had to make a couple hundred million. What is the business model in being a producer? cuz you said when you first went to Drake he gave you $10,000 hotel room and things like that right so the publishing the revenue streams that come from that there's so many there's songwriter share neighboring rights publishing can give an example like what song that you wrote that that you you produced what gave you the what one song gave you the most income dude they're all like huge I made some of the biggest records give me one of them like you said off this one song off this album I made you $6.8 million. I made the most money when I went to Florida in the mid 2000s because I was doing it wasn't like I was splitting and making the records with like a bunch of people. I was doing them by myself. All of them. All of them. Beyonce's records huge. Um Mario Let Me Love You, Lean Back, Make It Rain. What does a Mario Let me Love You make you? Millions. Millions. Yeah. Still till today you're getting re residuals right now. Yeah, there's income streams like I said for a publisher for somebody like Blackstone who's trying to buy a catalog. They're going to pay at most for like these new cataloges because they after a while they go spike and that's it. 10x 12x 10x whatever in the wolves. my catalog 2530X cuz they know they ain't going to get it because like Dre just sold his catalog for 200 million to Warner or Universal, excuse me. Um and I remember him telling me like that's why when I because I told him something about my catalog and he's like yo you should sell it this that the other. Um I said why? I thought you're supposed to give it so you have generational wealth. He's like, "Fuck that. I'm I'm like, he's like, I'm, you know, this this age and this and that and like my kids aren't going to know how to do anything with this catalog and like, you know, really market it." And like, he's like, and I asked my lawyer, "How old will I be to get 200 million out of this catalog?" And he said, I think he was like 130 years old. And he's like, "Fuck that. I'm going to use this money while I'm on Earth and turn it and buy real estate, do something great with it." He was concerned that if I sell a catalog like that, I'm going to blow it. He's like, "Are you going to blow it?" Because that's it. Like, so he said, "If you're not going to blow it, invest it. Sell it." Showing here that Droy's catalog was making 10 million year annually, and they bought it for 250. So, if that's the case, they paid 25x for it. My my point. Exactly. Wow. What what's the story about the fact that uh uh uh Suge bought one of your catalogs for $419,000 and some change? What What is that story? I think I've read that somewhere. No, that's not true. No, I don't believe that [ __ ] Do you know which one I'm talking about? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was not him. He was involved in um not that catalog, not that big catalog or anything, but like it was uh 41930620. Mhm. $419,3620. That's not true. I'm trying to see maybe I misread this. No, it was it was it was a a company called Royalty Advance Company. It wasn't the publishing galler struggling financial intim intimidation by Sug Knights signing to a portion of songwriting royalties into a trouble period 2012. Yeah. Music royalty consulting. That's not true. No, no, no. Because I remember when I when I talked to Vanilla Ice, Vanilla Ice told me when Shook held him over the, you know, balcony and you better sign this or else. And you know, how much truth is that story like no kind of happened. You know, he he took a complete different angle. Mhm. With Suge. Do you doubt that Suge would do that with his reputation? Well, listen, I remember one time I'm hanging out with Reggie Callaway. I don't know if you know Reggie Callaway. You know, Jay King. Reggie Callaway was I want to be rich. He sang nobody know he sang at my wedding was course yeah he sang he sang at the wedding but uh no parking on the dance floor I think that's him anyways Jay King was with Club Nouvo do you remember Club Nuvo look at all these rumors yeah okay so Jay Jay becomes an insurance they also did the lean on me yes yes he did another one called why you treat me so bad that was my favorite song from those guys Jay King till today I listen to you know your [ __ ] man. Why you treat me so bad? I'm Jay and I were we spent a lot of time together. So I said, "Jay, you got to get into insurance. There's a lot of money." All right, Ben. I'll go get my license. He gets his insurance license. Jay, you got to learn how to sell insurance. You got to put me in front of some people. Says, "Perfect." First person he puts me in front of is Suge Knight. That's crazy. This guy's not going to get approved for life insurance. Jay, I got to tell you a funny story about the insurance. He brought Jay King introduced me to Sugge Knight at I think Jay can correct me on this. still call me. Was that the Four Seasons Beverly Hills or one of the curtain way? Yeah, I don't know which one it was. Love to hang there. Yeah, that was Shook Spot. What was that interaction like? Listen, he I've I've had a handful of interactions with him. Yeah. Minus when he calls me from prison, he says, "Yo, just so you know, the the P, you need to know this. The hood [ __ ] with you. This is what Shook said." I'm like, "I want to do a podcast with you, man." I'm like, "All right, cool. Let's do And then we did a nice little There's a very loving side of him. Very interesting. I had a Thanksgiving with him one time. This, you know, it's a complex character in the movie like you can't quite figure out. That's basically him. Yeah. But you were saying about insurance. I'll tell you some funny [ __ ] And like when I lived on Palm Island, No, I was living on Los Solas at the time. I hired a caterer last minute. I was like, I need [ __ ] 30 people catering this and that. this guy named Seth Cohen um is the caterer who's serving drinks at my thing and like I'm on top of the world. Go flash forward to like my fall. They reach out to me. This guy Seth Cohen he's like by the way I'm rich as [ __ ] now like and I want to hire you to make some music for my it was Brad Cohen actually his brother that he wanted me to make music for his wife and his kids or whatever the hell it was and put some money in my pocket. This guy went from being my caterer to being a member of the Alpha Alpha Club to being like insurance care direct. Is this guy? No, that's the lawyer. Insurance Care Direct. Type in insurance care direct. Mhm. Go to images rap. Brad and Seth. These guys blew the [ __ ] up from an office that was smaller than half the size of this room, bro. and just sweated that [ __ ] out. And now they're buying up all the crown jewels of [ __ ] Fort Lauderdale, the the Annheiser Bush House. One by one, they're buying them all. Like, good for these guys. Yeah, they [ __ ] crushed it. I mean, look, now that Seth is like doing AI uh insurance sales, he's like was before anybody could even think of it. He's got the patent on it. There's a lot of money in insurance, bro. He's doing Yeah. Imagine AI insurance. I I He played me both sides of an AI call. of insurance. It was way better than a human. Like if you know, you ask this thing and it's going to answer you the right information, concise, clear, at the right tempo, aesthetically pleasing to the ear. Like I was like, what the [ __ ] Yeah. Like your whole like workforce is like going to be like it's going to change because the call center's gone with AI. By the way, increase your [ __ ] 80% like Oh, the game has changed. And insurance, there's a lot of money in it. Scott, did you ever do anything with Mariah Carey or No. Yes, that was my home. How was How was she? She's awesome, bro. First of all, we made a song called Side Effects about Tommy Matah. That was like And I've worked with her with Jedakus. I did this song K J I S. Yeah, we did that. But Mariah used to call me and do like crank calls and like do um Jerky Boys impressions. Yes, this is me. Kiss or Saul Rosenberg. S Rosenberg. [ __ ] funny as hell. She's awesome, bro. She's the [ __ ] diva. S Rosenberg. What was the difference between working with someone like her versus someone like Beyonce? Both beautiful, both talented. Oh, I mean, they're both different, you know. One is Mariah Care's voice. more country and like um more hood and then like and just like real. She's a diva. Like that's Park Avenue right there. But let me tell you though, Mariah Care's voice is is truly something else. Insane. It honestly like you got if we ran a poll right now, what's the greatest voice of all time? You would hear Whitney Houston. Yeah. You would hear Freddy Mercury. Mhm. Elvis is probably going to be on that list. Steve Steve Perry is gonna be on that list, right? You're gonna have Robert Stysand. I think uh Lou Graham from Foreigner as well. Oh my god. I want to know what love is. Yeah. I mean those guys 80s for sure. Daryl you know. You have to looking at this list. Mariah's a beast. You have to put Mariah on it. By the way, Lady Gaga's got a voice as well. But Mariah Care's voice. Oh, Mario has one of the greatest voices. Christina Aguilera. Yeah. I got a funny She made a song by the way called [ __ ] You Scott Storch. Yeah, I tell you why. I can tell you that's a funny [ __ ] story. Irving A's off [ __ ] special. Is there any chance I can take a 5-second cigarette break and we'll come back and talk about Irving [ __ ] they call the poison dwarf in the the Do you ever see that book Hitmen? It's about like all the like early like um people in music like like the like the serious like mogul. Oh yeah. You see that? He's one of them. I'll explain that song when I get back after this uh advertisement. Five minute break. Hey, what's going on? I'm Scott Storch and you might have seen me on the PBD podcast and you might have some questions you want to ask me. I'm available on the Manette app and you can ask me about pretty much anything, music, industry stuff, you know, my life and my history or, you know, anything technical questions with music, equipment, whatever, production techniques. Check it out. Manette Mariah Carey is what we were talking about. You were telling the fact that Christina Aguilera wrote a song called Fus and I think it means Does it mean what I think it means? [ __ ] you. [ __ ] you, Scott. All right. So, tell us how this happened. How did this happen? Okay. I um aligned forces with her to make the stripped album which sold a ridiculous amount of copies and I did like the bulk of the album and then Linda Perry did some from Four Nonb Blonde. I don't if you know that is. Yeah. Yeah. Like a little closer. Yeah. That song. Yeah, that lady she wrote she wrote a bunch. Yeah. Hello. Better. That's really cool. There you go. So, um Okay. Yeah. And that album, we killed it. Irving Asoff being her manager, guy who started like Giant Records and went on to uh own Live Nation and he's like, but you know, and there's a famous book called Hitman. This guy. Yeah. that he's referred to as the poison dwarf and his that name is like accurate. How tall is for this [ __ ] guy? He's one of them guys. Like I don't really dog anybody out. I mean, so like Kanye was like I'm pissed at him for that, but like I'm really like I don't really have anything bad to say about anybody. Um I do with this guy. So when I when I went to do the poison dwarf, that's a pretty due to his stature and aggressive even controversial. If he's what Kanye's talking about, all right, fine. I get it. No, I know that's [ __ ] up. That's really [ __ ] up. But at any rate, um, this guy, when I went to do this record, they gave me an advance. I think it was like a quarter million, which is a very fair price for me considering my price tag was 80 per song. I ended up doing seven songs on the album and I think two interludes as well. Um, the record went crazy. It was her biggest album. All, you know, most of the the ones or half of the songs I did were became hit singles. Um, any rate, now it's like I was living in LA at that time. Now I'm living in Florida. So um they called to do the next album and I was like you know what in the spirit of good business I don't want any increase. Just give me the same thing. My manager calls me at the time Derek Jackson and says Scott this guy said you were lucky to work with her and be involved in such a big album. Not that I helped make the big album and shape its sound and like I'm like the core and the nucleus of what it was, but he said he's not giving you any advance. You just come to work and you're lucky you have the opportunity. I said, "Whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't believe this." I was like, "You call him and talk about this stuff. I want to be listening in." So, I'm listening in and he's like going on and on like, "Yeah, Scott's lucky to be involved with singer like Christina and this and that and like [ __ ] Scott and you know, you know, he's just trying to like play tough guy with me. I'm over what? Like peanuts like 250? What the [ __ ] is that? You're going to blow. You just sold 19 million copies in this shit." And like whatever. I get my royalties. That's one. the actual recoupable producer advance. He was trying to like, you know, be a goalie with it. And I was like, "Okay." So, I'm listening and listening, listening. And at one point, he's like, "Fuck Scott." And this and that. So, I was like, "Yo, [ __ ] I'm on the phone by the way." And he's like, I was like, "Here's the deal. I need 2 million to do the album now or I'm not doing it. And you need to send [ __ ] NetJet with a [ __ ] I think it was at the time a G4 and like um I need the Clive Davis um bungalow at the Beverly Hills Hotel and I need a perdem every day of a thousand for food on top of all this and I was just like [ __ ] you. Okay, me and Christina were really close. Um Clive I have Clive stories too. Um, this is like the [ __ ] You ever see the show uh what is it? Um, the blacklist with uh like about the what was that guy? Um, but anyways, he's just like Yeah. And like every episode is like he's going after somebody else. At any rate, this is like the blacklist today. At any rate, um, so Christina found out about this and this and that, and she was just like, uh, [ __ ] Scott, this and that. You know, I'm gonna make the album without him. You know what I mean? She and I were like on the bordering of the romantic side of things. And it was like, and it just was just like a lot of like crazy [ __ ] And this guy got between our relationship creatively and friendship-wise and turned us against each other basically. And um yeah, he's a real [ __ ] [ __ ] back. What's he doing now? Is he I don't know. He's he's not in um Live Nation anymore. I don't know what the [ __ ] he's doing, but I remember his daughter was like the assistant on the album. She was cool. Allison, but um so that was the end of it with you and Chris. So yeah, so then the album comes out and um it didn't go platinum, it went wood. That [ __ ] was like a disaster. She went from like 18 million copies to like two or something crazy. Yeah, man. It was like And then she fell off the map. Yeah. But it was included in that a song called [ __ ] You Scott Sto. What's the lyrics? Can you go to it? I want to know what she says in that. I mean, is she What does she say? She basically lists all of the songs in a lyric that we thought I knew who you were. I see how you learn bridge. Now I was the first to believe I made you part of music dream and your thanks to me came without an apology. You we wrote loving for me. Don't walk away can't hold us down. Now this sounds like you guys have an intimate relationship here. Sounds like a scorn. We used to lay down together at night. It wasn't really that physical or anything but like we became like those friends that are like teetering on like dry making out and [ __ ] Yeah. I don't know. Whatever the [ __ ] it was, but I don't know. She was into some weird [ __ ] Like, yeah. When we met and we're making this album, a lot of this music was inspired by she was with this guy named I think his name was George. He was like one of the dancers and he was gay and she wanted him to be straight and it was just like a [ __ ] weird hard to turn that thing around. Yeah. Like I think she was like one of those people that like tried to turn gay people back. She wanted that. She wanted a challenge. That's tough. Scott, this brings up a very good question. You know, Pat always talks about if you're building a championship team, right? Who's the most important piece? Is it the GM? Is it the coach? Is it the star player? Is it the front office? Right? If you're making a hit record, you have the producer. You have the artist, right? The singer, the rapper, what have you. You have the record label. Here's why. You have the marketing team. There's a gray area. I'm I know what you're saying. Yeah. The role of the producer, who really is the guy that puts the [ __ ] together, has changed. That the definition of that word has changed. Now, the producer is some guy who makes a [ __ ] beat and sends it on a CD. Back in the day, the producer, like me, is the guy that sees the whole thing through and make sure that you have the right writer. You have the right conviction and emotion coming out of the vocals. You have the guy finishing it, the guy, and he's just a real producer. Like, back in the day, George Martin was the producer of the Beatles, but he wasn't really making the music. he was just guiding them and like putting that special sauce on it of these songs that they did. So it's like it's different thing but ultimately the most vital piece of um an artist or like you know what's behind the artist a is the artist themselves the manager I think the producer for sure because he's like creating this you know setting the tone um and then the guys at the label that know how to like sell You know what I mean? That that know how to sell it. Yeah. They know how to put it in the right places. Scott, Diddy parties, all the stuff that Diddy's going through. Any Did you have a close relationship? You were in the Palm. So, you're in Miami. He's down here. What was your relationship with Diddy? He was on Star. I was on Palm and we were cool. Like, you know, we um we were like comrades, so to speak. Like real, you know, cool. I was invited to all the parties and this and that, but I wasn't staying late at those parties because I would leave for my parties which were, you know, potent as well, but I wasn't like there was no like swinger [ __ ] or [ __ ] You didn't stuff. No, I don't I'm the only dick in the room. I don't like I'm not into that weird [ __ ] Like I'm I don't want to like have no part of that. But there were some bad [ __ ] in my house and you know, excess of everything. And you know, I remember like, you know, my my house was more like um the Wolf of Wall Street type vibes. It wasn't like I don't know. It was no weird [ __ ] going on. But I didn't really see any weird [ __ ] at Diddy's because it was just to me it seemed like everybody was having a great time and he was the provider of an amazing event that everybody wanted to get into and like all the time and spared no expense with fireworks and all kinds of [ __ ] and all the A-list people. I was one of the few people was allowed to go in the house and during one of these parties most people are just like left outside. Huge people. Whose house is that Rob? That was mine. Oh, that's your house. Yeah, it's nice. Yeah, I was the first buyer of that. It's called the Villa Ferrari. Bunch of builders like got into a fight and like there was like I I had to finish the house. At any rate. Oh, yeah. So, at these diddy parties, you get invited into the house. Not many people get into the house. Yeah. But again, there at a time when there was nothing even remotely. So when you hear these stories like I was the weirdest guy in the party. I felt like I was the biggest [ __ ] like piece of [ __ ] in the because I was in the [ __ ] hiding in the media room doing like coke and stuff. You know what I mean? And I remember Diddy looking at me and he's like what does that stuff make you feel like? And it was me and another famous producer in there and we were like trying to explain it to him but I guess over time like he was probably introduced I don't know for sure but I mean or kept things around for people that wanted it. But at this time you're saying that Diddy didn't even know what Coke was. like he wasn't doing anything. He was joking around with us, but like he was like kind of looking at us like what does that [ __ ] make y'all feel like and this and that. Like it was just like he was like this innocent type vibe, but like meaning he didn't do drugs. I think he was doing like probably ecstasy and molly that was more socially acceptable at that time. Even though later we learned that leaves like holes on your brain and like robs you of your serotonin and [ __ ] like that. But look, here's my take on the Diddy thing. Forget about the parties. Um, who Diddy is, who they're trying to make him out to be. I said this just recently, I'll say it again. There's no excuse to hit a woman. I've never put my hands on a woman my whole life unless I was smacking her on the ass while I'm [ __ ] her. All right. There's I've never gotten to that stage where I'll just walk away like I'm not going to get into a fight with you. like you're not going to like I've had girls that got violent with me. Like I'm like, "No, goodbye. See you. I'm not part of that." So, who knows what the hell was going on during that. So, there's no excuse for that. To me, it looks like [ __ ] were up for like three days doing some [ __ ] up drug and it was like not who he is. Is now this like drugged up dopamine version of what Diddy is. And like that [ __ ] somehow happened. I don't think he's somebody who just beats women up. He's not like Jake Lamada or some [ __ ] like whatever the case is. Um he um that was that as far as them saying to like that he's a um sex trafficker to me. Sex trafficking is selling [ __ ] right? I think if anything he was like buying it from like just having girls on deck and putting them on a [ __ ] Gulf Stream and going over state lines. That's not cool. Like just call somebody like a a sex trafficker. Like whatever the [ __ ] Nobody was having a problem with eating caviar with him and taking his money. Like so I don't think that's fair. I think that Rico, you got to have more than one name there. I just think that if you try and go up against liquor, oil, um you know, like all the, you know, firearms, tobacco, all these things, like you're going to have some [ __ ] problems. That's the real [ __ ] Illuminati. And he went up against Dagio and said, "I could do my own Sarat." And like they were like, "Oh yeah." They dropped a bomb on his ass. the the the um the crime doesn't fit the punishment with him. I still have my pictures up of Diddy on my Instagram now. Disappointed. Yeah. That he put his hands on a woman. I'll forgive if I find out that he did something to a little kid or did some like pedophile [ __ ] which I don't think they're going to find because I don't think that's who he is. I don't get that from him. I whatever pictures they're trying to paint from him is this devious guy. I mean whatever. Like he's gangster for sure. Like he's definitely like he's from New York. Like he's not a [ __ ] Um is he a homosexual bisexual? Everybody's trying to push that. Is he a cuck? Which is like liked watching other I I wasn't in the room. I do know I felt like at one point he tried to flirt with me and [ __ ] and I was just like I'm good on that type [ __ ] Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Like, but like what do you mean he tried to flirt with you? I'm just gonna leave it simple like that. You know what I mean? That's it. Well, I mean that's a pretty bold statement, bro. It's just I'm tell I'm going to say it like it [ __ ] you know it is what it is. He's my homie, man. Like but like I just felt but there was never any bad beef. There was never saw anything weird. Nothing but love. When you when you hear the stories about like, well, Usher came to his house for Diddy Flavor Camp and then Justin Bieber showed up. Any rumors in that? Any any truth to that? [ __ ] that, man. Like, everybody want to be around him. He's the [ __ ] flyest dude. Like, he made the [ __ ] look good. He's in Tommy Matah's house, which is the sickest [ __ ] that he bought like on Star Island. Like sick. Like, you know, like Justin was at [ __ ] Molly Maul's house. you know Molly Maul, the guy he was like that was like because he provided this different kind of thing like he was in Vegas in um I think Neil Sadak or somebody's crib some weird guy's crib I don't know who it was um and he had he was a pimp you know what I'm saying and he had all these broads around and he had a studio and he had like cool people we had Pooh Bear around and that was a fun environment like you know what I'm saying what can I say like and people wanted to be there too. Bieber wanted to be there. Nobody was taking advantage of Bieber. Bieber knew what the [ __ ] he was doing. He was trying to hang out, has it? That's all I think. The bees right there. So, Diddy um that picture up there on the left with Paris, me and uh Kim and Diddy, they were like, "Yeah, they're at one of Diddy's white parties." That wasn't even Diddy's white party. We were in Sanrope at Le Biblo's hotel at like in the pool like or something that we were just at a white party and it was mad people there. You know what I mean? We're just hanging out. Everybody dresses like that in San Jose. Look to the left a little bit that no left picture. Oh, who's that? Was that Kanye right there? That's your best friend right there. Oh my boy, man. Gotcha. DMX. Did you ever Did you and DMX do anything or No. Yeah, we did. We shared. He was one of my favorite. I mean, I can He was one of my closest friends. God rest his soul. Earl, I tried to save his life. It was like the blind leading the blind, though. Like, he was on crack. I want cocaine. Different things. One, it was a faster suicide. But there was a point I'm going to tell you two DMX stories or three actually. DMX. I got him out of having to like go to prison and I told him to go to a rehab center and like it's called recovery first right across the street from the Hard Rock. He goes, I get him in says [ __ ] It was court ordered and calls me like 3 days later like, "Yo, Scott, I'm at the Hard Rock. I had to [ __ ] the nurse." I'm like, "What the [ __ ] bro?" I was like, "They're not going to take you back. This is not like G&G holistic or some shit." And he's like, "Oh man, what the fuck?" I call the guy, the owner, and I'm like, "Yo, can you please let him back?" Nope. 3 days later, I had him come back to my house. 3 days later, I went to Mandreon. My security calls me and says, "X has 50 federal agents surrounding your house right now. They're handcuffing him and he's smoking crack while they're handing it handcuffing him like with the handcuffs on getting his last hidden and [ __ ] Some crazy [ __ ] So before that, I remember him staying at my house. One of the funniest stories is I had this [ __ ] party. Everybody was there from Snoop, this one, that one. And at like 7:30 in the morning, the parties fizzled out. It's like Mike Eps, me Snoop, a couple other people were chilling in my house in Palm. I get a knock at the door and it was Pamela Anderson. And I was like, "Wow, this is cool." Like, even though that was actually one of my friend Rick Solomon's wife, whatever, but I never met her. I thought it was like so cool. Like that was like 0708, whatever. And um it was like a I think it was like a Super Bowl party I had. It was just like 600 people or something in the party. And um make a long story short, I was so geeked out in my mind like X was upstairs in one of the bedrooms and I like, "Yo, X, yo, X, yo, you got to see this." He comes out and he looks over the banister and he says, "Baywatch." And he just walked back in. Said one word, "Baywatch. Baywatch." And just walked away. But last one is the the sad story that I have with X. He and I made some great We did a video at my Indian Creek, by the way. It's called Give The What They Want at My Indian Creek property. We did a video. It was pretty cool. Um, but that is not the story. The story is this. You'll be able to see that he's my brother after I tell you the story and watch that video. But hold up. Steve Leel, my manager, one of my most recent managers. We working. We working. Yeah. Very cool guy. Um he and I owned a rehab center together in LA, Studio City. It's called um the Heavenly Center. THC. Get out of here. Yeah. And we were like it was very difficult to be like um able to get like insurance companies to cover the [ __ ] because of the weed thing and this and that whatever. So we kind of like dumbed it down. We like we we are weed tolerant. We're not supplying the weed, you know, that type of thing. Whatever. California sober, whatever the [ __ ] it is. X is now on his last legs with infyma and he's one hit a crack away from dying. So, we put up the bread. This guy Frank Sid, me and Steve, we we put him on a private jet to Washington to detox. He goes, we we convinced him to do it. He goes through the whole detox program and he's supposed to get on the runway and go back on that same plane and go impatient at the heavenly center. He never got on that plane and a few weeks later he was dead. Wow. I really tried to save his life. I really love that guy. I had his whole family stay in my house. It was kind of [ __ ] up though. Like, you know, mind you, I'm a cocaine addict at the time and like he was in there like trying to like use my coke to make crack with and [ __ ] which is [ __ ] nuts. Like, I don't give a [ __ ] I if I look like a maniac by telling these stories, it's the truth. It was like the blind leading the blind. Can you imagine like like, man, you really need to get your [ __ ] together. What the [ __ ] man? You got to clean that thing up. Yeah, man. Like, you know, you got to stop to get rid of that [ __ ] What was he like off camera? I mean, everyone says that if there's one performer that just has the grit, the grind, the hustle, the flow, like he was that guy. He was the [ __ ] man. [ __ ] debuted platinum 10 times in a row like he was [ __ ] on the game. Did you ever see that [ __ ] one um I forget what festival it was. It was like this massive I think it was like La Paloo La Paloo in Chicago, bro. Like this dude was a beast. He was like you. He was really everything that those records were exuding was him. When you hear that Yeah. It never gets old. It's one of those. By the way, did you see Will Smith's latest song they call the worst song? Did Have you heard about it? No, I haven't. Okay. Will Smith came out with a song. They they just went after him talking about Fat Joe. Uh uh had a Who was the guy that was with Fat Joe back in the days? Big Pun. Not big. It was with Big Pun. You know, he had the song. This one's dedicated to the ones who never made it. I hate it. The fact you faded away. You were the greatest. Who is that? No, it's not Pun. It's the other guy. It's um Tony Sunshine. No, keep going. You'll say it. It's um not your boy. Uh I say this prayer to never respect you, but to part of the terrorist squad. Oh my god. What is this guy's name? It's such a great Not nor I'll figure out who it is. Someone's going to watch this and they're going to comment below. We'll find out who it is. Well, did you ever do anything with Fat Joe? What? I made like some of the biggest records for Fat Joe possible. Um, I did Lean Back. Yeah. I did Make It Rain. I did like a lot of [ __ ] with Joe. You mean like Joe Joe changed the face of my career, too, because I was not putting a tag on my records. I was not like produced by Scott Story, [ __ ] like that. But I'm doing every [ __ ] song in the world and like Lean Back comes and he's like Scott Stoch. Yeah, bro. Within the first seven seconds. That's what he said in the video. Cheese lines. Cheese lines outside a door. Yeah, that's what he said. So you guys were close. You guys Yeah. Where do you put him? Where do you put him on the list? He's dope. I mean, he's dope. It's kind of like unfair that he's not looked at like as even bigger than he is. I mean, people respect him, but like being a Latino Latino rapper at some point, like it was like a handicap in itself. Like it didn't matter how [ __ ] dope you were because [ __ ] was just like like there's a lot of [ __ ] like weird things about the music business, you know? So, Fat Joe, I don't know your relationship with him these days, but there's a lot of there's a lot of hip-hop beef, you know? Obviously, it started with Tupac and Biggie and everything and then Nas Jay-Z. Well, he's a big in the, you know, as a personality now and like when you have an opinion sometimes people like Well, 50 Cent I think him and him who who does he have beef with this? 50 Cent. He used to all his fires have been put out really. It was Hoveve. Yeah. And 50 and now he's cool with all of them. What's your take on just hip-hop beef in general? I mean that the biggest beef of the last year was Kendrick and Drake. Is this manufactured? Is this real? What's your [ __ ] WWF? Like, you know what I'm saying? But like, put it this way. There was um I forget who it was that was telling me like, "Yo, 50 is coming at me on some shit." Like, he's like really [ __ ] like tearing me up. This and apparently 50 called you and was like, "Oh, cuz No, he called he got in touch with me. He's like, why you doing this to me?" He's like, "I'm trying to throw you a bone, bro. I'm trying to get you some shine." Like 50 saying this to you. No, to this person. That's the story I heard. I don't know for sure, but like that he was like dissing somebody. And the person that he was dissing called um Fifth like, "Why are you doing this?" He's like, "Bro, I'm trying to help you." Like any publicity is good publicity. Like I'm giving you a shot. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like that's what these beefs, a lot of them are out. Now, there's legitimate beefs obviously. But what do you think is the most legitimate beef? I think like Lil Wayne and Birdman had some court stuff going on suing. What's the realest beef? I mean, yeah. I mean like that's a label artist beef. That's not like rapper to rapper beef. Even though the label was a rapper, but there's more that's family. That's like a father and son. I did a song for these two for Wayne and Birdman called You Ain't Know. I'm actually in the video playing piano. It was like we're dressed up like gangsters and [ __ ] Cuban Link is who I was talking about. Do you remember Cuban Link? Oh yeah, Cuban Link. Yeah, Cuban Link. That's Oh yeah, they be That didn't end right. It was not that was it wasn't that wasn't problem there. But somebody else recently just tried to like [ __ ] with with Joe and take advantage of him. Somebody that was like a hype man for him claimed to be like the writer on songs and [ __ ] and trying to sue Joe. You said Tommy earlier. Did you have a relationship with Tommy? It's funny that house that Diddy like lives in like I was there to visit Tommy at one point. I mean he's a legend. First time I met Tommy, Sony Music Studios in New York, I was like a little kid in the root and like didn't know what the [ __ ] was and I walked into the wrong lounge and it was him talking to some like Asian guys that probably own Sony or whatever. He gave me the dirtiest look like he was about to [ __ ] bite my ear off. I was like, "Oh shit." But then later down the road, he um he invited me to come to that house when he had first bought it and he was with Talia. This was right after um She's great. She's great. And the same party place at the edge of that property on Star Island that's like a temple kind of gazebo kind of thing or whatever. It wasn't like that. It was an office outside and it looked like something that Sosa from [ __ ] Scarface would have. And he's at this sick ass probably $300,000 table with home phone and like it's like outside. This whole office is set up outside and he's like doing his thing out there with a cigar showing me his cars and [ __ ] But hey, whatever. Tom Mull. Legend. He made a lot of money for a lot of people. Yeah. And for himself. Yeah. For sure. At the hands of Sony. Like there was like, you know, a lot of people like made like I mean if I'm really gonna talk like [ __ ] like they were found a way to take budgets down these guys. Like I'm just being real like everybody knows this [ __ ] He had a partner Corey Rooney that was producing and there's a crazy story. I'm glad I mentioned that. Okay. I have to I have to go there if we're on the [ __ ] blacklist today. Go for it. All right. So yeah, like these guys, they would charge they would get all the [ __ ] like they would eat up all the budgets of like the quarterly like budget that they would get, you know, Sony, Colombia, this that the other. One day I had a house on Pine Tree Drive that I made into a studio. I had Miami Beach. Yeah. 63rd and Pine Tree. I had um two studios in there. I had the board from Saturday Night Live, the SSL or the Neve, whatever it was. And um I get a call from this guy Kenny Commasar who's big record executive and he's like JLo wants to come over. I'm like, amazing. I want to work with her. Like cool, amazing. This is dope. So JLo comes over, but now it's like damn near a hurricane going on. Power goes out. So I'm like, oh yeah, I got this new car. I was like the first one in America had the Phantom and like I was like let's listen to music in my Phantom. Pouring rain. She's loving every [ __ ] thing I'm playing or she's like that's [ __ ] I remember her hand on my leg and like just I was like oh [ __ ] this JLo was sitting in my passenger seat loving my [ __ ] music. I'm a little [ __ ] like Jewish white boy from [ __ ] Sunrise and [ __ ] like what the [ __ ] Knob Hill and [ __ ] At any rate I could hear a knock on my window. I'm like, "What the fuck?" Kenny's like, "Jennifer, we got to go." I'm like, "What do you mean we got to go?" Like, "What the [ __ ] are you talking about? You brought her here." Like, "No, we got to go right now." 15 minutes later, I got a call from him like, "My bro, I'm so sorry. They told me I was fired if I didn't get her out of there." Want to know why? Because there's only so many songs in the budget on these albums. And I was taking away real estate in that little game that these guys had going on that took Sony out 200 and change million. I'm laying some secrets out for y'all today, bro. This is all real talk. But yeah, I was like, man, that's [ __ ] up, bro. I was like so hurt by that [ __ ] That [ __ ] was supposed to go to Tommy and Corey, and I was not getting in. [ __ ] that. Scott's not getting in her ear. Real talk. That was one of my [ __ ] like realizations that there's so much [ __ ] and [ __ ] every industry. There's a hustle to every facet. I mean, this this cup right here probably has 10 hustles to the business behind it. Business. Bust the rhymes. One of the only people to check on me. You like everybody's like pointing the finger. Oh, Scott's [ __ ] up now. This and that. D. He was like only person who call me and be like, "Wow, that I made money for all these people and they just walked away and said, "Scott's a piece of shit." He's like, "Yo, bro, are you all right?" I wasn't. I was like, "Yeah, I'll be all right." You know what I mean? Addiction is a [ __ ] Nobody cared, bro. I bought like all my homies Bentley's out of love, like because I wanted them to be like me. And um they all disappeared when the party was over. It was like but that's a gift too because you get to see who your real friends are and those two three people that were left standing there making sure I was cool. Buster was one of them people that I mean he wasn't we weren't that close close but he's also my first client when I left the roots that believed in me. He was my very first client that hired me. I remember we were like going up and down like [ __ ] all the labels in New York. Took this trip from Philly to New York and trying to play music for ANRS. First one to bite was was Buster. But yeah, he's the only person that really [ __ ] called him like, "Bro, are you all right, man?" Nobody gave a [ __ ] Out of everybody in industry when you were going through your worst or your worst and you were dealing with the the recovery, the only person that reached out was Busta. There was nobody else. Joe somewhat. You know, that Joe. Yeah. He never like I mean I didn't get the call, but I mean I knew he cared. Do you think that's because of you and your reputation or is that just a business? It's all fake. It's all a facade. You ain't really friends. If you ain't hot, you ain't hot. Even I remember Diddy telling me like when we were talking about like what's your secret and he would like because you know you have all the success and he said I run to the light and what he meant by that is like whoever's hot he's going up near that [ __ ] like whoever's [ __ ] blowing up at the time you're going to see that [ __ ] he's like I run to the What a thing to say run to the light. Is that right after he flirted with you or this that's a different situation? It's like I run to the light. Interesting. Trying to see what he's talking. However, light skin like you know, you know what's crazy? That dude's ears are golden. He's got golden ears, man. I know people like would use his ears and to see if some [ __ ] was legit or see if that was the single to help pick the the one out of the bunch. That's the one. They would use Diddy for that [ __ ] Jimmy I all the biggest, they would be like, "Yo, what do you think of this?" He knew. He knew. He knew it. It wasn't accidental that he rose to the top. No, he had an ear for it. Yeah. Was he hands on as a producer? No. No, that wasn't his thing. You ever seen You ever seen the video? You ever seen the video when uh he's on a call and he gets what he wants and he says, "I get everything." You ever seen that video? Mhm. Of course. Is that pretty much? Does that describe him? Um I don't know. That looked like too much coffee. This one right here. You know what it reminds me of? Pause it. What was the um Yeah. Yeah. at the end of uh Yeah, I know. Tropic Thunder. What? Tropic Thunder is what I'm thinking. No, um the movie like they had Sid Caesar and he won the [ __ ] I win. I'm going to win the money. You know, you know what I'm talking about with Trevy Chase. Go ahead, Rob. That for like the the the weekend of the 14th when the soundtrack comes out. If if so, bump somebody. All right. Thanks. All right. Love you, man. Bye. I got my MTV out. Savage. I'm a savage. Oh, I'm a savage. Whatever I want, I'm going to get. Whatever I want, I have to get. It's like sterile. What's next? What's next? Watch this. Yes. What's next? What's next? I got to get it. I'm not going to stay [ __ ] down. I'm not going to stay [ __ ] lying down. I'm not I can't do that, man. I can't do that. What's next? Give me something else. What can't you do? I can do it. I could do anything. Wow. Can't stop. Won't stop. The power of suggestion. So he ran to the light. Huh? Power auto suggestion. Dude, there's dudes that like, I'm not saying any names, that just are able to capture your attention by screaming and like really not being part of the creative process of the music and just like selling you on that [ __ ] Like, do you ever do anything with uh what is what is that one guy's name who Connie had issues with and he ended up I think he's the head of YouTube right now. What is the guy's name? Is that Rick Rubin? Not Rick Rubin. No. No. Leor Cohen. Yeah. Leor Cohen. Leor is the man. [ __ ] Leor started like he's one of the founders of Def Jam. Yeah. Him and Russell Simmons. What made him special? Was he a boss boss? Was he a Was he a numbers guy? Was he a negotiation guy? Was he smart in business? He was a tough guy. But like, you know, he would think outside the box. And you know, they figured out a formula how to sell records. Did you spend some time with him? He used to borrow my boat. He used to come over and bring me Joe Stone Crab to Indian Creek Island. And Scotty, let me borrow your boat. No problem. Anytime. Captain's there. He was a cool guy. Good dude. Yeah. Well, he was beef. He's got some interesting nicknames. The other guy had nicknames. This guy's got it as well. Culture Vulture. I don't know what they called him. That's It was a weird lawsuit. I'm trying to remember what he was doing. TVT with Steve Gotautle and it was like a big lawsuit. Yeah, it was um protection 13 million rule cash money click initial defendant was ordered to pay $132 million in compensatory punitive damages with 56 million due personally from Cohen unappealed that figure was substantially reduced. Yeah, I heard some story about him dancing on his desk after like something with that lawsuit like winning or something. Okay. So, he's got a little bit of Diddy in him. Is that what it is? Okay. See if he dances. You want to think about what that guy is? It's like the Beasty Boys and [ __ ] like that. Early [ __ ] like cutting edge people. Like, was that Tribe Called Quest? Was that There was no like hip-hop like mainstream [ __ ] before these kind of guys. There was also Joe and Phil Nicolo, Rough House Records. They had Cypress Hill, Chris Cross. Oh, wow. Bunch of people. Make it jump. So Scott, these days, I mean, you you've you said famously that the coach last longer than the players. That's actually a Steve Leel we working originally, but I've adapted it. I've adopted it. You know, there's Snoop's still relevant, right? Jay-Z's still relevant. Snoop who, you know, there's hot guys these days. You know, obviously Drake's relevant with what though? Snoop is famous. Relevant as active. I don't know if I would. Meaning he's still around. Listen, these people have made such an amazing amount of music of such high quality and like some of the beats like you'll notice like Snoop picks the greatest [ __ ] beats, man. He's like but like they don't have to do jack [ __ ] There's a lot of like me personally like if anybody oh he's watched or some I don't have to do another beat for the rest of my life. I've still done more than everybody else. They'll never catch up. You know what I'm saying? Like it doesn't matter. and my like name and my legacy is like even though I don't like to rest on my laurels and I'm still making [ __ ] because the passion is still there. I lost it for a while back and my son doing music like yeah I'll still do it but quietly I'm making some [ __ ] fire [ __ ] Um what do you think about music these days? Like who do you think is going to uh last a test of time? So is it Migos? Is it uh Travis Scott? Is it uh there's this is this is like who do you who do you actually respect people that are more artistic than others? Baby, Lil Baby. Who do you got out there? One of my favorite people is this guy named Russ. Oh, I made a lot of songs. I did wife you up with him. He doesn't depend on the radio. He doesn't care what anybody thinks about him. He fills arenas. Mhm. All day long. What's What's special about him? He believes in what he's saying and he like I can tell you something like it's just so organic. I remember having a conversation with him about going on the road and some of these amazing places that he would get to travel to like in Europe like [ __ ] amazing places and he's like I'm not going to bring some like like you know broad with me you know I'm going to bring my mom and he would bring his mom like to the these great places and he was so like excited to like give back to her great good for him. Yeah, good for him. He's as real as he gets, man. He must had a great mouth. They hate him. Like so many people like in like you know these like whatever like they just there's a lot of people he gets haters. It's jealousy and hate. But what do they hate him for? I don't know. But having an opinion that actually he stands behind one that makes sense. I don't know. Who else would you put in that category these days? Um I don't know. There's there's there's some good artists. Um, very few, very few, very few. You don't seem too uh thrilled with the with the the current state of hip-hop. Is that I'm going to take it a step further. Okay, go. We got was now we have when I was and then before me and I listen to some of the [ __ ] before me like that was like you know Earthwind and Fire, Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gay, Al Green, you know Zeppelin Hall and just some of these amazing man I ain't do nothing good. Like my [ __ ] is all right. Like this [ __ ] is whack. [ __ ] is horrible right now. Honestly, it's horrible. It's trash. I still feel like I didn't of like I made some pretty impressive [ __ ] I think but it still is nothing compared to the amount of integrity that went into like some of the [ __ ] before me now there every generation says the generation before that you know they don't get it they don't give the times is it is it a generation thing or is it just straight up listen to my ears it ain't it it ain't you ever see the movie Idiocracy [Music] that's it people are dumb they they gotten so because it's so easy to become a music producer. Anybody can go to Guitar Center now and it's so cheap. Before we had to have realtore tape recorders that were like $200 a tape to store two songs. Now you can store a,000 songs on a little disc that cost you 40 bucks. You know what I mean? Like so anybody can do it. Everybody has a voice. Anybody can be seen. So the quality just got lower and lower and the bar was set lower and lower and lower and lower. You'll find some guys that are like sort of good like some, you know, the artist, the better ones, like, you know, the Travis Scott, the Trippy Reds, the, you know, this and that. But Scott, you ever met Trump? I did. I just had lunch with him. How was that? He's awesome. He's awesome. Yeah, Trump is a cool guy. I think um very misunderstood guy. Everybody's like, "Nobody's perfect, you know, pick your poison." But I think he definitely has a plan and like even though it looks like he's doing like causing riots and [ __ ] like that, there is like the better good of our our our country, you know what I mean? Like nobody think it's bittersweet, you know what I mean? Ultimately, he's protecting us, but it's like you think about, you know, poor families that people are getting like deported and [ __ ] like that. That's the [ __ ] up part. But sometimes in order to do something, there's sacrifices that have to take place in order to the o the the overall goal, which is to protect us. And you know there's I mean in in politics I it's not my forte so I can't really like articulate as much but I just saying based on what I see I think his he's actually driven to protect our country. Do you think I'm sorry do you think behind the scenes other musicians you mean you were in a room with all these guys if you did a poll of a hundred of the guys you worked with do you think they're proTrump you think they're still Democrat party where would you think all the musicians obviously we know where Beyonce and Jay-Z stand I saw this guy on um Instagrams guy Patrick Met David and he was at Mara Lago and he was like yo all these naysayers and [ __ ] people that just were [ __ ] on Trump they're sucking his dick right now because he's the president again basically is what you were saying in other words. Yeah, very similar paraphrase doing run to the light. Run to the light. So that's what everybody's doing. Running to the light of Trump, I guess. I don't know, man. All I know is he's doing a [ __ ] better job than [ __ ] Sleepy Joe. that guy like I feel like all this [ __ ] up [ __ ] happened and the first time that Trump got in office like here's some Corona virus deal with that [ __ ] like you know what I mean like that's not he weathered the storm he went through that [ __ ] but like that wasn't easy for somebody did you ever meet Clinton no never met Bill Obama so weird like I didn't meet Obama but I was called when he was running for office to like you know they were looking for cool people to like be part of his campaign and like they wanted to pick me up and go me go in a limo with him to some club or something and I said no I don't know nobody knew who he was I didn't know if he was white black or anything like I didn't know and they just said Obama wants you nah I'm [ __ ] up I'm doing an eightball instead but I don't know if he did that much as a president here like I don't really know he did that much cocaine as a president no I don't know he did that much as a president were saying like you gave eightball or something like that. But yeah, who knows? No, I I don't want to start any rumors. Scott is not saying anything about the eightball with the president. No, that's two separate. No, no, no. I was saying I don't know how much he did as a president. Um but like I do know that um I guess like I just feel like Trump is the our our saving grace right now. And I don't think that like a lot of these things would have happened like a lot of problems would have happened if he was in office last he he would be he would be one hell of a rapper if you think about it. the amount of [ __ ] talking he can do and how how quick I can imagine if somebody just pulled up to Trump and let's just say he goes on a podcast that's all about hip-hop and they said could you freestyle I can only imagine if all of a sudden he drops he drops it's called the weave backing thing and he's like yeah you know well there's one thing for sure he's been mentioned in more rap songs than any president maybe any celebrity of all time. Any president? Yeah, probably. No, probably. Probably. Probably. Scott, just out of curiosity, I mean, where you're at. What do you have if you have to choose between Biggie and Tupac? What's your opinion on that? Are you more two different things? Both amazing. Oh my god. It sounds like now I feel like I'm on drink champs because that's what they do. Like it's like if you have to pick one and if you can't, you have to take a shot. Well, um, one's a poet, one's a storyteller. Here's here's a better question to ask. Which one have you played or listened to the most? Biggest music or more Tupac? Which have you listened to both equally? No, you can't say that. I have. That's not true though. I made a record for Tupac though. I did remix songs. Yeah. Oh, you're talking about the the the uh Why' I just sling crack? Cuz I had to. Look, Tupac got better and better as time went on. Like Biggie's career was so short, it's hard to like Yeah. I dated little Kim, too. So, I guess me and him were like Eskimo brothers. Whatever. You dated? No. You did or you didn't date? I did. Really? Yeah. Like what era? She's an awesome like awesome person. Um she doesn't look the same though. Likim to me used to be did a little too much surgery. Yeah. Yeah. All women get carried away with that [ __ ] like later in life. But Well, Lim at one point was bad. Yeah. So, you had Big Kim, Kim Kardashian, you had Lil Kim, you had Paris. Bro, pardon my language, but I [ __ ] everybody. Literally, it was I didn't leave nothing. Nothing to chance. Out of all the girls you've been with, if you could have put a ring on one of them, who did you actually love? What a question. Adam's in a very loving just like Scott knows. I'm going tell you this. I was married one time for one day in Vegas because I was [ __ ] up and like I don't ever I don't know. I don't I don't think I ever You pulled a Britney Spears. Is that what you're saying? Yeah. For some reason to me I've had relationships long relationships. Well, who was the one that got away? Who did you actually love? Who would you actually like someone that we would know? You're like, I tell you what, so and so and so if I could have, would should have. Who would have that would have been? Scott, walk us down memory lane. You've been with them all. Come on. I don't know. Like, get in your feelings right now. Maybe we'll play a little Mario. You should let me love you. Who is it? I always was going out with people for the wrong reason. Like, for me, it was like I get involved with a girl cuz she had a great ass. And that's not deep enough to [ __ ] have like the intimacy and the love that's going to stand the test of time. For some people, that's spiritual. That's, you know, it's a Look, I'm not the [ __ ] I can't say I made all the right decisions in my life. I know how to make music. I can't tie my shoelaces. You know what I'm saying? Like Like at a at a certain age in like my prime, like I decided I like to [ __ ] this thing called drug sex. Like when you're doing [ __ ] drugs, you're getting [ __ ] up and you're [ __ ] and like that's not what love is. You know what I mean? like you get caught in your ways. What's the old expression like you can't teach an old trick new dogs? So, but that you can make beautiful music, but you can't tie your shoelaces. Like the other night, we had dinner. This guy, look, I know people that are so smart, but have no conversation. This guy, let me tell you, PBD, he has a napkin right here. Right here. Napkin at dinner at uh where we have a at moderanos. this guy. I looked at him. I'm like, he went like this. I'm like, Scott, use your napkin. But is it something about the way you're wired? Just like, I don't give a [ __ ] What did you have on Marano? Did Did you have the Philly cheese? Kiwi ordered the cheese steaks, every everything. Incredible. See, the challenge with Marano is when they turn on the music, I can't talk to you. You got to go early. They went early that one night. If you're in the mood for that, like a lot of people like they're not going to the club, so they want to get that club. I go to restaurants for three reasons. I go for three reasons. I go for company. I go for service. I go for great food. I'm not going for music. Mhm. So that's the three reasons. If I want to listen to music, I'm going to a different place. But it's a party. Like you got to be ready for that. It can happen in spot. If you have folks, if you're listening to this, everybody knows I'm team Kaza D'Angelo. It's very simple. That's where I go. In the last seven days, I was there five times in the last seven days. I tell you something else. Yeah, there's another one. Another sleeping tie. Is that the 95? The the one the the number place that everybody Romano. Yeah, of course. In Bokeh. I recently Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right off of uh Palmetto. Yeah, we've been there. Yeah, I used to go there all the time. You got that? Palmet right across the street from 84. That's the place you would go to lunch every day. I used to go there a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Prime Italian's not a [ __ ] man. Yeah. They got some cheese steak, too. Well, okay. So, last thing before we wrap up. What's next for you? What's next for you? Well, um, let me see. I'm thinking about this. Make sure I say the right things cuz I get caught. You going to announce like you and Kim are back together? Like, which one? Yeah. I'm just saying Kim K because he seemed pretty sentimental about that one. No. Um, let me see. All right. So like I you know I've done so much music making in my life that you know sometimes I want to continue that but I want to do something different. I want to like, you know, try something new. Like I feel like even like when I was making music, I would try different kinds of music because when you're not so formulaic in your delivery because you've done it so many times, you're learning along the way. And that's where some of the most accidental genius things that you make happen that are hybrids of other things. But now I think I have a lot to say and I have I have the ability to captivate people. So, like I want to, you know, do like a television show, like a variety show with a podcast with like that that whole kind of thing. Like I want to do something that's different. Live entertainment. Um, comedians, this that even a little sketch comedy involved like something really dope, you know, something different. Where do you live? That people wouldn't expect from me. You're still in Miami? Yeah. All right, that's cool. something amazing. Like I I have a pretty big reach and like I think I can bring the right people in and like I don't know like have fun moments that are very spontaneous and very like you know just like unexpected from me. And a lot of people don't know who I am. They don't know there's a humorous, funny, humble guy that's just done a lot of [ __ ] [ __ ] everybody, had everything and lost it and not embarrassed to it. No, I was I'm very like I don't really care. If you can't take a [ __ ] joking. If you can't take a joke, [ __ ] them. I almost feel like this was a blast of a podcast. We talked about a lot of different things. I learned your favorite person in the world today is Kanye. I learned you miss Kim. I learned you did business with a lot of different people. But if there's one thing I can tell you, I have a feeling I'm curious what dinner's going to be like with cameras off and and no mic. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I don't know if that makes sense. By the way, I have, not to cut you off, I have a um a song that I did like three years ago with my boy Ryan, who's such a cool guy. He's an inventor. He's a lab guy. like, you know, doing some incredible stuff and his um Sarinos this company and we made a song, he made a movie about like blood testing and things and like corruption in that world and like all kinds of [ __ ] But like I did the theme song for the thing. It's pretty mean where I kind of like interpolated the Karate Kid, you know, that type of [ __ ] Like what a song. Are you kidding me? But we switched we The song has evolved into different By the way, before before we wrap up, what are you doing with Grand Theft Auto right now, aren't you in the game? I'm not allowed to talk to NBA. Oh, okay. Gotcha. All right. But to be to Yeah, I was already there. I was already in it. Me, they put me, Dre, and Jimmy in a online version of it, but Okay. You know, yeah, he is. Who knows? I know. That's right. I I've seen it. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So, maybe there's something else. Maybe maybe Anyways, all I know is that game is going to be [ __ ] That's the biggest [ __ ] video. They are have they have been delaying it and people are pissed and they're creating anticipation but they're looking forward to it. My man, this was a blast. Great having you brother. Much love. Take care everybody. God bless. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Hey, what's going on? I'm Scott Storch and you might have seen me on the PBD podcast and you might have some questions you want to ask me. I'm available on the Manette app and you can ask me about pretty much anything. music industry stuff, you know, my life and my history or, you know, anything technical questions with music, equipment, whatever, production techniques. Check it out. Manette