How To Master The Art Of Conversation (Using Psychology)
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Effective communication is not an innate talent but a learned skill that can be mastered through practice and emotional intelligence. The core of deep human connection lies in the ability to listen without the immediate need to respond or offer opinions, creating a safe space where others feel truly seen and heard. In our fast-paced world filled with distractions, the most valuable contribution one can make is simply silence; by putting away devices and maintaining eye contact, you signal respect and value for the other person. This practice of active listening involves counting to three before responding, which slows down reactivity and allows the speaker more time to process their thoughts, ultimately making them feel smarter and more understood.
Beyond mere hearing, true understanding requires paying attention to both verbal and non-verbal cues, as research indicates that over 90% of emotional meaning is conveyed through body language and tone rather than words alone. Men and women often communicate differently, with studies showing that women tend to use more non-verbal signals like head nods and direct eye contact to show engagement, whereas men may focus on facing the same direction while talking. To bridge this gap, one must employ reflective listening by mirroring body language, nodding, and paraphrasing what is heard to confirm comprehension. This approach not only clarifies the message but also triggers a physiological response in the listener, lowering stress hormones like cortisol and releasing oxytocin, which shifts the nervous system from a state of threat to one of trust and relaxation.
The final pillar of this communication framework is validation, which involves acknowledging another person's feelings and perspective as legitimate without necessarily agreeing with their opinion or attempting to fix their problems. Many people fall into the trap of the "savior complex," rushing in to offer solutions when what is actually needed is empathy and acceptance. By asking open-ended questions instead of giving advice, you help individuals gain awareness and find their own answers, reducing their suffering rather than just addressing surface-level issues. Validation tells the other person that their reality matters and that they are safe with you, answering the unconscious questions everyone asks in every interaction: "Do you see me?" and "Am I safe with you?"
Ultimately, mastering the art of conversation comes down to the acronym LUV: Listen, Understand, and Validate. When you focus on these three steps, you stop trying to be interesting and instead become genuinely interested in others, which naturally makes you a better communicator. You do not need to learn complex vocabulary or perform tricks to be engaging; simply by listening deeply, showing understanding through non-verbal cues, and validating their experiences, you deepen your relationships with family, friends, and partners. This approach fosters an environment where people feel valued and understood, leading to stronger bonds and more satisfying interactions in all areas of life.
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Communication is something that we learn
from people that we're raised with
throughout our entire lives. But have
you ever taken a step back and asked
yourself, "How can I be the most
effective communicator possible? What do
I need to learn to communicate as
effectively as possible?" And we've all
heard it. Communication is the number
one key for any relationship. Whether
that's a romantic relationship, whether
that's your friendships, your family,
your children, any other breathing
human. Basically, if they can fog a cup
because they're breathing, this that I'm
going to teach you today will deepen
your connection with other people and
your communication with them. The
problem is that most of us were never
actually taught how to communicate. It's
not something that we're born with. It
is a skill set. And so for me, when I
was younger, I realized I'm a really bad
communicator. I'm shy. I don't
communicate effectively. How can I
become a better communicator? Because
human connection is amazing. When you're
really connected with another person in
a great conversation, your body releases
dopamine. It releases oxytocin. You feel
good about it. And so, let's try to get
better at being communicators. So, first
off, what we need to know is
communication, as I said, is a skill.
It's not a talent. What it does is it
takes practice. And according to the
American Psychological Association, EQ,
which is emotional intelligence, is one
of the strongest predictors of
relationship satisfaction. And
communication is where EQ becomes
visible. And so, what I'm going to take
you through is something that Dr. Carol
Comfort came up with, and it's the key
to communication. And it is an acronym.
It is L U V. And so I'm going to take
you through L and U and V. So the first
part L stands for listen. To listen to
another human with no need to respond,
no opinions, no extra input. To just
listen. Empathetic presence is the act
of being fully present with another
person. not just physically in the same
room as them, but emotionally present
with them, mentally present with them.
And what that means is when you're in a
conversation with somebody, setting
aside your own thoughts, your own
judgments, your own beliefs, and any
distractions that might be in the way of
this other person. In today's fast-paced
world, distractions are everywhere, and
everybody's got an opinion. But to be
fully present with another person when
they're talking with you shows that you
value them and you respect them, even if
you say nothing.
If you want to be a better communicator,
the first thing you need to do is shut
up. It's crazy. It doesn't make any
sense because you think like, "Oh, I
need to be a better public speaker. I
need to say bigger words or maybe I need
to say something more effectively or
communicate a specific way." No, we need
to shut up. It creates a safe space
where the other person feels seen and
heard. So many people just want to be
seen and heard nowadays. So, put
distractions away. Put your phone away.
Get other devices away. Make eye contact
with the other person that's in front of
you. Square up your shoulders with them.
Nod. Show that you're listening to them
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most value that you can give someone in
a conversation is silence. I don't know
if you've ever been in this situation
before where you sit down with somebody
and they're a really big talker and they
talk like 90% of the conversation and
then you get done and they're like,
"Well, that was such a great
conversation." and you're like, "I
didn't say anything." Right? So, so what
I want you to do is to to listen better,
to give them space, to sit there without
judgment. And I get it. As a guy, this
can be really hard because men, we
always want to try to fix things. So, if
someone comes to us with their problems,
we're always like, "What can I do to fix
it? Let me put on my Bob the Builder
hat." Listening is a skill. You know,
don't try to fix problems. And the
easiest way to do this and to get better
at listening is to know that when that
person is done talking, you're going to
count to three without responding. One
Mississippi, two Mississippi, three
Mississippi. Reason why is because when
you just jump in and you say what you
wanted to say, you don't listen to them
in the first place. And at the same
time, what usually happens is if you
give someone extra space, they'll
usually continue to start talking again
and they will go deeper and you'll get
to know them even deeper because they
went deeper. And according to Harvard
Business Review, there was a study that
was done and they found that people who
felt actively listened to by their
managers were 80% more likely to report
trust and psychological safety with that
person. So practicing the wait time,
that intentional 3-second pause before
speaking increases understanding slows
down reactivity within yourself and
within them. And what's weird about it,
according to studies, it actually makes
the other person feel smarter because
they're given more time and they're
allowed to process. And so psychologists
call this low arousal communication.
It's used in therapy. It's used in
traumainformed parenting. That's lower
volume, slower pace, fewer words. All of
those equal higher trust. And so, a pro
tip that I can give you that one of my
first mentors really gave me is stop
trying to be interesting and be
interested. And if you do that, you will
be a much better communicator and people
will feel like you're a much better
communicator. So, that is the L. Okay.
Next one is U stands for understand.
While words convey the surface message,
the non-verbal cues like body language
and tone and facial expressions often
carry the emotional weight of the
conversation. And so verbal and
non-verbal is what you need to think of.
So a really interesting thing years ago
when I was younger, I had a manager, his
name was Jeff. And you know, there was
like over 700 offices in the company
that I was in. There was men and there
were women. And Jeff was the number one
developer of female managers. He had
more female managers than any other
person in the entire United States,
including other female managers. And so
I asked him because I was like, "Hey
man, like you know what's the difference
between men versus women?" And he's
like, "I want you to read this book." It
was a book called Men Are from Mars,
Women are from Venus. And I read it to
understand how our brains work
differently, how we think differently,
how we communicate differently. And I
also saw a study as I started
researching this. There was a study on
those done on little boys and little
girls. They were around four or five
years old. They had them go into a
classroom and what they had them do was
they had them just sit at the classroom.
They put them in there and then they
watched them through a uh um mirror
where they didn't know that they were
being washed on the other side. And
little boys would face the front of the
classroom and have conversations facing
the same direction. So they're both
facing the same direction. They turn
their heads and they look at each other
and and talk to each other. Little girls
were more likely to turn to each other
to square up each other's shoulders and
like have each other's like looking dead
in each other's faces and give each
other non-verbal cues. Their head nods,
they they'd say stuff like, "Yes." Which
is a verbal cue. And um this is the
reason why a lot of times that like men,
if you've ever heard you've had your
wife or your girlfriend be like, "You're
not listening to me." And you're like,
"What are you talking about? I heard the
entire thing." It's usually because
you're not giving the non-verbal cues
and the verbal cues to show that you're
listening, which is part of the you,
which is understanding. Head nods.
Square up your shoulders. Uh-huh. Yeah.
So, what you're saying is dot dot dot.
Or if I understand correctly, dot dot
dot. giving them facial expressions,
giving them reflections back, like
repeat back to them to make them know
that you're listening, that you're
present with them, and that you're
understanding them. All of these show to
the other person that you're listening,
and that you're present. But more than
anything else, they make the person feel
seen and heard. And one thing that I
have learned in the past couple years is
just how many people are starving in
this world to feel like they are seen
and heard and understood and that their
emotions are valid. And there's a 2011
study that was done by UCLA that found
up to 93% of emotional meaning and
communication comes from non-verbal
elements. So 55% is from your body
language. So just your body language is
communicating with the other person. I'm
listening. I'm understanding. I'm here.
Right? So 55%. 38% is the tone of your
voice. So the way that you're speaking
to them, the tone that you're actually
speaking back in, the cadence, the speed
of it, right? And only 7% is the words
that you actually use. So when you're
trying to have them feel understood, you
want to use what's called reflective
listening. So, what I'm hearing is dot
dot dot. And it not only clarifies what
they're saying to you, but it tells the
other person like, "Hey, you matter
enough for me to get this right." And
when someone feels truly understood,
their cortisol levels drop. That's a
stress hormone drop. Oxytocin rises,
which is the love chemical, and their
nervous system starts to shift from
threat to trust to relaxation. And so,
you know, when you look at it, it's
listening, it's understanding. So that's
L that's U. And then the last one is V
which stands for validate. This one is
very very important because many many
people are not good at this at all. Very
few people can effectively do this. And
if you do this people will love to
communicate with you. It's something
like I completely understand.
You don't have to agree with the person
to say I understand you. I understand
why you feel that way. You can have a
completely different opinion. You can
have a completely different belief
system, but you can say, you know what,
I understand. Tell me more. Yeah, I can
see where you're coming from. All of
those is validating another human
because perception is reality. They are
living in the reality that they're in
based off of how they're perceiving it.
And so by validating another person's
feelings or experiences, you're not
necessarily agreeing with them, but
you're acknowledging their perspectives
legitimacy. And so stop trying to fix
everybody. You know, a lot of people
don't want to validate. They want to go
in and fix. I've done this before. I
want to fix people. I want to fix
problems. Lots of men like this. Oh, let
me tell you what the problem is versus
just validating the other human. That is
called the savior complex where you're
like, I'm just going to save everybody.
Stop trying to save everybody. There's a
clinical psychologist named Dr. Marcia
Linhan who is the founder of dialectic
behavior therapy and she describes
validation as recognizing and accepting
another person's feelings, thoughts, and
behaviors as understandable.
That's it, just understandable. So, when
you validate someone, you reduce their
emotional defensiveness because their
nervous system no longer feels like it
has to fight to be hurt. And so, with a
phrase like, "Yeah, that makes sense."
can be really disarming for another
person. Once again, it doesn't have to
be because you agree, but because you
acknowledge how they got there. And so,
another thing you can do to also help in
this situation is to ask questions. If
you want to help fix somebody, if you're
a fixer like me, instead of coming in
and trying to give advice, ask
questions. When you ask questions to
another person, they're usually able to
gain more awareness through
conversation. And then they think, "Man,
that was such a great conversation with
another person." when in reality what
you did was you asked them questions
that allowed them to expand their
perception. And so you don't have to
give them any answers. You just ask
questions and allow them to come to it.
Helping someone grow is not about taking
away their pain. It's about helping them
suffer less. Pain is something painful
happens in our life. Suffering is the
pain that we're continuing to live
through because we're continuing to pull
this pain with us and now we're
suffering because of it. Something could
have happened six months ago and
someone's still suffering from that
thing. And so instead of me going in and
trying to fix somebody and telling them,
"Hey, here's what I would do." It's like
maybe I can ask them questions to give
them a different perception so that they
can start to free themsel from their own
suffering. That's what I would do if I
were in your situation. You're a quote
unquote fixer like I am. So even if you
don't agree with somebody, once again,
you can still validate them. Even if you
don't agree with somebody, you can still
listen to them. You can still understand
them and you can still validate them.
They did the best with what they have.
And so what you're trying to do
effectively here is to have compassion
and understanding.
One of the things that I have found
about humans is that we all just want to
be understood. That's it. We all just
want to be understood and feel the
feelings that we're feeling are valid.
Too many people are invalidating other
people's feelings. According to a uh a
motivational interviewing research,
open-ended questions promote insight and
ownership far more than giving advice to
somebody. So instead of saying something
like, "Hey, here's what I would do."
What you want to just ask a question is
like, "Hey, what do you need right now?"
It shows true empathy. It shows you're
allowed to feel this. I'm not here to
fix you. I'm just here to be with you.
Every human is basically asking two
questions in every interaction.
Unconsciously, not even sitting down and
going, "Oh, I'm asking myself these
questions." But unconsciously, they're
asking themselves, "Do you see me?" Like
to this other person that you're sitting
across from, "Do you see me?" Number
one. And number two is, "Am I safe with
you?" And when you communicate and you
use the luv, the love when you're
communicating, it's allowing the person
to be, "Yeah, this person sees me.
And number two, I am really safe with
this person. So when you're
communicating with love luv, the answer
becomes yes to both. So you might have
clicked on this because you wanted to
become a better communicator and speak
more fluently and succinctly and be
understood more. But really, if we're
trying to be the best communicator that
we possibly can, it comes with number
one, listening, number two, showing
people that we understand what they're
saying to us, and number three,
validating them. If you do that, you
don't have to worry about learning any
big words or seeming interesting. People
are going to love you way more just
because of those three steps. Hey,
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