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How to Have a Successful Marriage While Being an Entrepreneur

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The speaker asserts a strong belief in marriage, arguing that success in this institution requires specific skills identical to those needed for entrepreneurial achievement: having and conquering a huge vision. He posits that many business failures stem from ignoring realities of the human condition, such as employees feeling insignificant rather than being malicious or sabotaging. This same principle applies to relationships; partners often struggle because they do not feel valued or understood. To bridge this gap, the speaker emphasizes defining terms clearly within a relationship to prevent miscommunication. He illustrates this with his own practice where he and his wife agree on specific meanings for words like "important." For instance, if he says something is important, it means everything else stops immediately; conversely, they have established rules regarding phone calls during meetings so that neither party feels ignored or undervalued when the other is focused on a critical business moment. The speaker recounts his personal history to illustrate how these dynamics evolved from necessity into sustainable habits. Starting with very little—living in a tiny one-bedroom apartment and even scavenging change for gas—he worked inhuman hours, seven days a week, refusing to let his wife take vacations for six years out of fear that he would never succeed or escape their poverty. His wife eventually intervened, stating the situation was unsustainable, which forced him to reassess his approach. This period taught him that while time is necessary, it is not the sole determinant of relationship health; rather, the quality of interaction and emotional presence matter far more than quantity. He notes that if one were miserable or depressed during their limited time together, those interactions would be detrimental to both partners and any children involved, as they fail to establish positive relational dynamics. Central to his philosophy on maintaining a successful marriage while pursuing an entrepreneurial dream is the concept of being each other's number one priority above all else. The speaker explains that he has faced moments where working long hours felt like it was taking away from their vision or threatening the stability of their union, but these fears were mitigated by prioritizing his wife over even his most significant goals, such as ending metabolic disease through business success. He argues that there is no comparison between what a company means to him and how much she makes him feel; if he had to choose, it would always be her. This hierarchy of values ensures that the relationship remains resilient against external pressures like financial loss or family tragedies. The core message is that a long-term commitment should only exist when both individuals genuinely feel they are each other's primary focus in every aspect of life, creating a sense of safety and significance that transcends professional ambitions. Ultimately, the speaker concludes that balancing an entrepreneurial vision with marital success requires intentional communication and a shared understanding of what actions mean to one another. By defining terms like "important" and establishing clear boundaries around availability during business meetings, couples can avoid feeling like ships passing in the night. The key takeaway is that happiness levels during time spent together are more critical than the duration of those interactions; being present with genuine joy creates a positive feedback loop for both partners and family members. Whether spouses work within the same company or have separate careers, the advice remains consistent: prioritize quality connection over mere presence, ensure you feel like your partner's number one priority regardless of external circumstances, and recognize that acknowledging human realities—such as the need for significance—is essential for thriving in both business and marriage.
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I am a big believer in love. I am a big believer in marriage. I just think if you're not prepared to acquire the skills that will make you successful in marriage, then don't get married. Mhm. What are those skills? So, the the generic answer a huge vision and conquering that vision. Well, the great news is it's exactly the same. The same thing that makes me being good at an as an entrepreneur makes me good as a husband. Uh and I'm willing to make that statement knowing that you could ask my wife for you will see it. She will back it up. I'm positive. Uh and only because I grinded out. I I work my ass off, right? So, and I accept the realities of the human condition. And I think that's one thing that people don't do a lot. Um and and I get asked to speak a lot about, you know, how has Quest been successful? And every talk I give is some variation of every problem you're having in your company is a result of you not acknowledging some reality of the human condition, right? So, your employees are not sinister. They are not trying to bring you down. They just don't feel significant in your business. So, they are lurching. They're groping in the dark to find significance. And once you understand that, ah I can provide you significance and then you you can go on and do something. So, communication, but but very specifically, understanding where the other person is coming from so that you can talk to them in a way that they can actually hear you. So, my wife and I define words. Uh so, I'll give you an example. We define the word important. If I say, "Hey, this would really mean something to me if you did that." No alarm bells go off. "Hey, I really need you to be there." No alarm bells go off. "Hey, it's important to me that you be there." I'll drop whatever I'm doing and be there. That's like this is the most important thing. 100%. Yeah. So, if you use the word important, everything else stops and I come and do that. That way there's none of the miscommunication of but I told you how important it was to me. So, How did you learn that? Uh through pissing off my wife over and over and over and finally realizing, okay, wait. Communication is what I do. How are we like missing each other? So, I I just had the sense we were two ships passing in the night. And so, we decided we're going to start defining terms. Like, what does that mean to you? Like, I if she calls me twice, I can ignore it. If that phone rings a third time in a row, and this has actually happened where I ran out of a business meeting like the house was on fire. I'm like, I got to go right now, no explanation, out the door. Cuz it We agree, if you dial the third time, assume I'm with President Obama and we're about to make something really magical happen and that this call forces me out of the room. That's You better It's got to be like that type of situation. Yeah, yeah. She's only done it once. Just to give you an idea of how it works. Uh then I'm screwed. That's just bad mojo. But I've got the Apple Watch now, so we're good. We're good. Wow. This is fascinating. And has there ever been a moment in your marriage where you felt like this is taking you away from your vision or it's not going to work or challenging times where it made you question it? No, but there's definitely because my wife is in the business. If she wasn't, for sure. And therefore, while in the company before, I was working more hours certainly than I am now. Cuz I was so terrified that I would never figure the code out and get out of you know, where we were cuz my wife and I started very poor. Um I joke cuz her father's very successful. Just down the street somewhere. A small one-bedroom apartment. tiny one-bedroom, 700 square feet. She was clipping coupons. I mean, the whole nine. Like, we were legit at one point about 15 years ago I was scrounging through my couch cushions for enough change to put gas in my car. Like, that's where we started. Um so, I went through a period where I was like, dude, I need to be successful. Like, it's not just a want. Like, I have to real. I can't live like this. So, um I worked just inhuman amounts of hours, 7 days a week. I wouldn't let her take a vacation, not a single day for 6 years. And then finally, she was like, "This isn't sustainable." So, Wow. Yeah, we finally Okay. Now, if you're not working together and you're in your you're married and you're working in different careers or she's not working with you. Yeah. How do you work that out? I mean, if you're you know, if you're working all these hours, how do you communicate in a way that's you're there for the marriage, but also there for your entrepreneurial dream? There's a lot of entrepreneurs listening that might have that question of like, how do I manage the balance to make sure that I'm there for my wife or wife is there for the husband, but also going after the dream and the vision and making it happen and not sacrificing that time for the dream, that time for your vision and and feeling like it's a compromise. Yeah. Or a sacrifice. I think it's the same advice for people in relationships as it is for parents. Uh, they've done studies on this and it doesn't matter how much time you spend with your kids to a point, obviously. If you're not like spending some time, it's going to be a problem, but it's not the time, it's the happiness level that you show when you're together. So, if you're with your kids 5 hours a day and you're miserable, you're unhappy, you feel lost, um, you're depressed, that's not great for the kids, right? They're not going to establish good relationship with you. Uh, they're not going to have necessarily positive relationships moving forward, um, with, you know, like a daughter wouldn't necessarily have a great relationship with husband because just the dynamic she's used to with a male figure in her life is off, right? Yeah. So, um, what they found is it's correlated purely to happiness. If you come in and you're just like, "Oh my gosh, I'm so happy to see you." and you're playing with the kids and you're having a great time, it doesn't need to be a lot of time, it just needs to be awesome Yeah. quality time. Got you. So, I think the same is true of a relationship. If if when you're with your significant other, you're still playing on the phone and they've got to get your attention and they never feel like they're number one. And that So, going back to the marriage question, you got to answer this question. The whole point, the only reason in my mind to be in a long-term committed relationship is how good it feels to be one person's number one. Not number two. Number one. I would not stay with my wife if I wasn't her number one. And I would encourage her not to stay with me if she wasn't my number one. Like she knows in all the world, no matter how bad it gets, we lose the house, the company crumbles, everything goes to hell, our families pass away, all of it. She's got one person for whom she is number one. She is it. Nothing is more important. The business means a lot to me. Accomplishing what I want in life means a lot to me. Ending, you know, metabolic disease, that means a lot to me. But it doesn't even compare to what she means to me and the way she makes me feel. And if I had to pick, and you know, I've had moments where I've gotten to prove this to her, that is her. It's her all day. So if you're in a relationship with somebody makes you feel that that's just a rad feeling.