How to Create a Frequency So Magnetic Your Desires Chase You | Katie Clarke

We all have a shadow self. It's the unconscious self. And the way that the shadow self is created is in moments of trauma. In order to cope with the distress [music] in the moment, our psyche fragments. So let's say you were quite young and you came home and you wanted to show something to your mom. You're like, "Wow, look at this. Look what I made." And she's really [music] critical. That's not resolved in the moment. No one came and told you, "Hey, it's okay. You know what? That's amazing what you did." So your [music] psyche tries to resolve that for you by creating a fragmentation. And this is how the shadow self starts to be born. >> She's a spiritual coach who is here to teach you how to stop chasing your desires and instead start magnetically attracting to them. Please welcome Katie Clark. >> The real keys I want to give people is the fact that you can heal this stuff. It doesn't have to define you for your whole life. And in fact, there's a lot of freedom on the other side of facing and integrating this stuff. How does that look like when you're working with the part of yourself that doesn't feel enough? >> So facing these parts yourself, it starts with admitting. >> I know you talk a lot about shadow work. What is shadow work in practical terms and why do so many people avoid it even when you think they really need it? >> Okay, so shadow work is essentially the process of making the unconscious conscious. So we all have a shadow self. It's the unconscious self. And the way that the shadow self is created is in moments of trauma, which is a distress that can be resolved in the moment. And when the stressful event happens, essentially in order to cope with the distress in the moment, our consciousness, our psyche fragments. Okay? So, let's say you were quite young and you came home and you wanted to show something to your mom. You're really excited to show something to your mom. You're like, "Wow, look at this. Look what I made." And she's really critical. Like, she's really dismissive of you. That's not resolved in the moment. No one came and told you, "Hey, it's okay. You know what? That's amazing what you did. You're so clever." No one resolved that for you in the moment. So, your psyche tries to resolve that for you by creating a fragmentation. And this is how the shadow self starts to be born. So, in that moment, the part of you that's hurt, the part of you that feels harshly criticized, part of you that feels like they're not enough, that part gets pushed into the dark, into the shadow. But not only that, a protector part is also born at the same time. And the protector part's role is to protect the shadow aspect from ever getting hurt like that again. So in this example, somebody who's harshly criticized by their mother, they have that part of them that maybe feels like what they do is never good enough. They might have a protector aspect of their personality who's a perfectionist. I see so many perfectionists and this is like the nuance stuff how perfectionism comes about. It's actually a protective identity trait. >> So they don't get criticized again. so they don't get criticized again because if I'm perfect then nobody can criticize me and that means I'm finally enough. >> Wow. >> And we have not to freak you out but we have hundreds of these parts. Every single person has hundreds of these aspects within them except maybe the enlightened masters. And so like another example of a shadow part just to give you a variety here could be somebody who was really expressive as a child and they used to like I don't know perform Britney Spears concerts for their family and in public and they thought they were amazing. They literally thought they were Britney Spears until somebody made fun of them. So in that moment that wasn't resolved. Nobody said no you are Britney Spears. You're amazing. So the fragmentation happens and the part of them that's expressive gets repressed because there's shame around their expression. And [snorts] then there's a protector aspect born who's shy and quiet and doesn't speak up and people pleases and doesn't speak their truth. So we have all of these nuanced experiences and like I said it's not it doesn't have to be big events. It can just be moderately distressing events that we didn't have the tools to deal with in the moment that creates these splits within our being. So then we have this whole shadow self that's deeply unconscious. We are not aware of it. Okay. Unconscious shadow that means removed from the light of consciousness, removed from our awareness. But we have all of these protector aspects. Those form our dominant personality. >> Those are the expressed. We have the repressed which is the shadow. The expressed is the protector. Those are parts of your identity and who you think you are. But you don't realize that you're in an identity maybe that is self soothing. And so you might be going throughout life and you don't feel the need to do shadow work. You don't know why it's important until maybe you set a goal and your perfectionist for example is standing in the way of that goal. are really slowing you down. You can't get anything done. You're in your head. You're overthinking. You're shut off from your creativity and you're like, "Why am I like this? Why do I need to obsess over a presentation for 4 months? Why can't I just send it or whatever it is?" Right? >> Then it's time to look within and start to look at the shadow. >> And the reason people don't want to look at it is because it's painful. >> So, it's quite a deep reason why it's painful. I mean, it's painful because it was stored with pain. First of all, if it was stored with pain, it needs to come up with pain. When you face it, it's going to be painful. But the other reason why it's painful is because of the kind of judgment we have towards these parts. They're not they're not parts that are societally acceptable. That's why we repress them. So we're very >> They looked ugly to others. >> Exactly. So we're very relationally dependent species. And so anything that's shameful or not approved by the masses, we typically repress that. So it's the insecure, the ashamed, the angry, the bitter, all of those, they get pushed into the shadow. So often times we don't feel safe looking at that stuff. We don't want to admit it's part of who we are because fundamentally actually we think it's going to disconnect us from people around us. If we accept that this is part of who we are, but the opposite is true >> because if this stuff is within you, it's distorting your frequency. It's disconnecting you from yourself. >> You're out of alignment. >> You're out of alignment. And if you're disconnected from yourself, then you can't be connected with others to the level that you could be. >> So, what is the most I guess the the darkest shadow self part of yourself that you had to overcome? And what was the thing that caused you to kind of hold on to that shadow self? [snorts] >> For me, I'm with the masses on this one. The not good enough, >> like criticize. >> Yeah. For me, it wasn't more I wasn't criticized. It was more that I felt like I didn't matter >> for my early years. Typically, >> did anyone ever say you don't matter? >> No. >> Isn't that interesting? It's like we feel we're not enough. No one loves us. I have no friends. I'm not likable. Whatever it is, >> but probably no one ever said that. I mean, maybe there was some bully kid that said like, "No one's going to be your friend or whatever, but >> probably [snorts] our parents never said you don't matter." >> No. >> Right. But that's something you felt. you felt I don't matter. >> Yeah. Well, >> how did that show up for you then? >> So, even if someone directly doesn't tell you you're not enough for whatever else, our child brains, they don't have the capacity to take in the full big picture. So, a child for example that's growing up in a family where there's a lot of conflict, they can't take into account that their parents maybe are flawed and that they have their own problems because when you're young, you look to your parents for survival. Yeah. >> You literally think that your parents are God when you're young. like you everything they say you're like yes because it's it's a survival mechanism. >> And so if something is wrong with them or off or there's just something wrong in general, the default response in a child's brain is there must be something wrong with me. >> It feels safer, weirdly enough, than to say there must be something wrong with this caregiver who I'm depending on for my survival. Yeah. >> So we say there must be >> Can't say mom and dad are messed up. Like they're really screwed up. >> No, cuz then you're screwed. >> Exactly. >> You're like, well, if they're screwed then I'm not safe. Right. It's like, so I'm messed up. >> Because in a weird way, it gives you a sense of control because if there's something wrong with me, maybe there's something I can do to be good enough and fix the situation. >> Interesting. Maybe if I perform better or if I'm more joyful or I can sing better or if I can >> get straight A's, then it's going to fix the problem. >> Exactly. >> But usually it never fixes the problem. >> No. And what it does is it creates this part of you that doesn't feel good enough and it creates these beliefs that you're not good enough when that was never actually the case. It was never actually true. It was just your perception at the time. >> Isn't that interesting how our brains as kids and most of our adolescent life just perceive something without someone actually saying it. >> Mhm. >> But it's not the truth. We just perceive it as real. >> Yeah. Now, there might be part of this like, oh, there was a disturbance in the house and it didn't feel settling and it was never resolved or we just swept things under the rug or whatever. Whenever mom came home or dad came home, we didn't say certain things otherwise they were going to get angry. Like >> Mhm. >> Sure. But >> man, it's like it's it's so fascinating that so many people we we just our brains think this certain way instead of thinking be do you have like the order of creation or like ah this is just a little problem they're having. Nothing is wrong with me. I'm fine. Like you're saying we were born whole but no one actually believes that. >> Yeah. Unless they were told it over and over again. And anytime there was a disturbance, >> your parents came down and said, "Mommy and daddy love you. Nothing is wrong." Like, we're just doing this is life sometimes. But that doesn't happen for 99% of people. >> No. And the eye contact, all the little stuff as well. >> How much eye contact should parents be having with their kids on a daily basis >> for them to feel more securely attached? >> I don't [laughter] have a statistic. I wish I >> That's interesting. Is it like minutes? Is it is it you know 20 minutes seconds? Like I don't even know what that is. >> I can't remember the exact number but >> I should look that up. >> I know you're a parent. >> I've got Yeah. twin girls 7 months old that I'm like and I will hold them and stare them in the eyes >> and you freaked them out. Well, I've been doing that already. I mean, but they're not going to engage. They might be looking at me for 20 seconds, but then they're like looking around and playing or doing whatever. So, but I'm really trying to like just stare into their soul because I'm also just fascinated by the the miracle of life and creation. I'm like, how did this even >> how did this even come from us? It's it's a miracle >> of how it's even possible. So, >> you I'm just like >> in the awe and wonder of it all while connecting with them. So, >> but yeah, I need to figure that out. >> I love that. Well, I I don't think you need to worry too much. I mean, there's no perfect parenting handbook. No, I need to be perfect. I can't mess them up. No, I'm just kidding. [laughter] >> That could create its own problems. >> Exactly. I need to be perfect every day. >> I need to get it all right. >> Well, I don't I don't think you need to worry about it because you've done inner work, right? So, if I were to give someone I'm not a parent yet, but if I were to think about what I could give someone as a parenting handbook, it would be like work on yourself and heal your own stuff because that's really what you're going to pass. >> And healing is a journey. You know, healing is a journey. It's not like you're going to be perfect consistently. You're never going to be perfect again. It's going to be an ongoing journey of coming back into your true self. You know, when you feel triggered or feel a response to something, finding a way to feel that peace, that wholeness again and not fall back into the shadow self that can come out from time to time. >> To answer your question from earlier, it was like a two-part question and answer in my mind. >> So, my shadow part of >> criticism, is that what it was? >> The Yeah. not feeling like I mattered, not feeling good enough. That was a really core one for me. >> And sometimes when you have a core one like that, like a really core wound, um >> that can create multiple protector parts, not to freak anyone out or >> what was that for you then? >> So for me, the first thing it caused was me to attract relationships where I wasn't treated well. Right. >> Cuz you didn't feel like you mattered, so you didn't deserve a relationship of love. And >> Exactly. So that was the first kind of layer and then I started to realize okay this is coming from within me because of certain things that happened and I didn't feel like I had the support that I needed when I was younger. So that was the first layer but then as I kept growing more came out of this where when I started on YouTube this was one I didn't expect when I started on YouTube I posted a couple of videos and then I started sabotaging I couldn't post anymore and I was like what is going on? I felt terrible. I felt insecure. I felt inadequate. I was like, why can't I create what is up with me? And I sat down with myself. I resisted it for months, which what you do when you feel bad, you resist it. And then I was like, okay, I need to lean into this and figure out what's going on. So I sat down and I realized that there was a part of me, and this is where shadow work is hard. It can be really ugly to look at sometimes. There was a part of me, a little part of me that wanted my first couple of YouTube videos to go viral because that would mean that I'm finally good enough. >> Oh man. >> Yeah. So it was going back to that same thing. So I had to sit with that part and go, "Hey, look, you can get a hundred views and you're still good enough and da da at least that part." And for me, perfectionism as well was linked to that. So that's something I had to work through with that as well. But the the real keys I want to give people and like the real nugget that I want people to go away with is the fact that you can heal this stuff. You absolutely can heal this stuff and it's it doesn't have to define you for your whole life. Mhm. >> And in fact, there's a lot of freedom on the other side of facing and integrating this stuff. >> Yes. So, when you started to self-sabotage, like it sounds like for a decade, you were wanting to be on YouTube and creating videos and putting yourself out there, but something stopped you. >> And then you finally like, I'm going to do it. I'm going to take action. And you do a few videos and then all of a sudden you say, actually, I'm not getting the response I wish I would have gotten. I thought that a bigger response would have made me feel better. It's not making me feel better. So now I stop. I'm giving up essentially. What did you have to let go of from that time of self-sabotaging and stopping into restarting again and committing to the process no matter what the outcome would be? >> I had to let go of the part of me that wanted me to blow up on YouTube so that I would finally feel special and good enough. >> I had to talk to that part of me and let her know, hey, you are special and good enough. Even if you get 100 views, that's fine. So, I worked with her and she calmed down. >> How does that look like when you're working with the part of yourself that doesn't feel enough? Are you staring in the mirror? Are you journaling? Are you meditating and having a conversation with yourself? >> What does that look like? >> Journaling is the best place to start in my opinion. And if you don't journal, just start journaling because it will it will open up your awareness so much. Uh journaling or meditation is really good. So facing these parts of yourself, it starts with admitting that you don't feel good, that there's something wrong. You admit it. You stop resisting it. You go, "Okay, okay, I feel insecure. Okay, I feel triggered. Okay, I feel anxious. Okay, whatever." And one thing that I say to people when they're in this phase of resistance is to just kind of turn within whatever it is that's coming up. Just say three times, "It's okay. It's okay. It's okay." Cuz that gets you to accept it and stop fighting it. If you're resisting something, if you're judging something, you will never understand it. You can't be in judgment and understanding at the same time. If you don't understand it, you can't integrate it. So, you have to accept it first. Stop judging it. Accept it. It's happening. It doesn't mean it's okay. It means you're actually going to start the process of releasing it. So, accept it first of all. Then, you want to just observe it and start to name it. What is this feeling? Where does this live in my body? You know, how does it feel in my body? Start identifying it. And then you want to tune into what part of me does this correspond to? And that's where if you're doing it in a meditative state, you can tune into your body and feel into where this is in your body and like pull that part of you out and look at them. You might notice it's a 5-year-old version of you. You might notice it's it's looks like a crazy goblin or something, whatever it looks like. Or if you're in a journal, you might start to get certain traits or characteristics or a time frame of when this version of you was born. You don't even need to know exactly when you're doing shadow work. By the way, you don't need to know. Okay, this was the 5th of December 19. No, you don't need to know exactly, but you want to start getting awareness as to what this part of you is and what what's wrong with them really. What are they feeling? And then, and this is the key point. As soon as you feel you've connected and you become aware, okay, what this is, what part of you it is, you let that part of you vent. >> You let them speak. You let all the emotions come up. >> Get it out. >> Get it out. So for me, like me getting rid of this I'm not good enough thing that was with me for years. I had many moments where I had to sit down and I had to cry and I had to scream and I had to be angry and let all of that stuff out of my system that was connected to that part of me cuz that is the release. And sometimes when you do this, the things that that part of you are saying are not things that you would consciously ever say. So I had a time where I had really bad imposter syndrome. You have to be okay with that. >> I had times where I had really bad imposter syndrome. >> Don't do it around other people. do it in a pillow or if you're by yourself, >> make sure you're in a quiet space where you won't be disturbed. >> Um, but I had this imposter syndrome part of me before back in my previous business where >> I set a boundary and I was really triggered and this was after I started doing shadow work. So I was like, okay, what is this? Why are you triggered and I went into it and I went into the part of me that felt triggered and she was saying things like, "You're just a stupid girl. Nobody respects you." And me, whole me would never say that. I knew better than to say that, right? I know the power. >> You were saying this out loud. >> I was saying it in my journal. >> Okay. >> And I would say it in like a meditative state. You can say it out loud as well. >> Yeah. >> I was with my boyfriend at the time and he was in the other room. So I was like, "Right, I'll just do this." But you know, I just let her I didn't judge what she was saying. This is kind of the key energy you want to be in. You're in the compassionate observer. And even if it's something you would never say or or express, there's a part of you that needs to express that. You'd be shocked the stuff that would come out. >> So for her, she had to get all of this out like you're just a stupid girl. Da da da. And then I started to realize, oh yeah, this was coming from this time that I was made to feel like a stupid girl in a meeting and that's why this part of me exists and I get it. Cuz once that part of you then is finished venting and releasing and purging, then you know, then you understand it. Then you know how to reassure it because you've listened to it. You've felt it. You've let it process. And even if we think about the emotion that that part of you is holding on to, that's an energy cycle that hasn't completed yet. So when you let yourself feel the emotion, whatever fear inadequacy or pain happened, when you let yourself feel it, the energy cycle can complete and then it can start to leave your body basically. >> So once you've let them vent, then you reassure them. >> This is like where things start to get really nice and they get lighter and lighter. So you say to them, I'm here for you. I love you. I see you. I'm never going to leave you alone again. I'm sorry I pushed you in the dark. You I cherish you. You're a part of me. And if you're doing this in a meditation, you might actually start to see that part of you changes. they start to brighten up and they start to feel safe to let go of this old way of thinking. And you can tell them anything they need to hear to feel safe in letting go of this old belief or this old idea. And then you'll notice that their energy has shifted completely. The whole thing will have freed up. You can give that part of you something new to focus on. So you can say >> what >> instead of for example instead of telling me you know I'm just a stupid girl who doesn't know what she's doing you can back me up and give me like more reasons as to why I do know what I'm doing. You can remind me of all the reasons why I am capable. You can remind me of all the times that I have been capable >> cuz that part of you is a part of you and they need a role. And so that's the whole that's the whole process. It doesn't take very long. It doesn't take a whole lot of time or energy and it is so transformative. It just takes courage and the humility and honesty to just really look at yourself. >> Oh man, such a powerful exercise. I've done this many times and I'm constantly reminded doing this as well when my, you know, the little version of me comes out or gets triggered or something. And I think it's it it really comes down to do you want to be the most empowering coach to yourself or a constant critic to yourself. >> Yeah. >> And like you said, you need to have courage to coach yourself. It's easy to criticize over and over again like you're an idiot or you're stupid or you don't matter or whatever it is. Um that's like an easy program that is just playing in most people's heads. It takes courage and consciousness to distance yourself from the part of you that is out of alignment where it feels like it is you, but it's just a part of you that's out of alignment from your greatest version of you. Mhm. >> And it takes consciousness and courage to to look at it and have compassion, like you said, for that part of yourself, even if you've been running in this cycle or script or story for years, and say, "Wow, I can't believe I've allowed myself to run this this way. I've allowed this part of me to essentially be my identity for so long or perceive as my identity for so long. not having all the shame and the guilt around it but having compassion for it having understanding >> and then saying all right how can I be an empowering coach to myself and have compassion for that part of me and instead of making it wrong and bad constantly by criticizing it let me empower it that part of me by giving it something else to focus on >> something else to channel its energy and to come back into the whole part of me >> y >> and when I can constantly bring that back inside of me as opposed to trying to shame it, but say, "Okay, you served a purpose. You were here for a reason to protect us. Now, me as the conscious coach inside of us, I got us. I'm going to lead us to the next to the next step." >> Mhm. >> And when we can be in that conscious coach more frequently, that's when amazing things start to unfold in our life. M >> but it it can be challenging if we haven't trained ourselves on how to do that. >> Yeah, >> it can be very challenging because it's it's hard to step away from that >> triggering part of you that feels like you're not enough. You're not lovable. >> Whatever you do doesn't matter or it always falls apart, whatever it is that you've been running in that story or that script. So, it takes insane courage. >> Yeah. >> It's probably the hardest courage you'll ever have is facing yourself in that part. Yeah, I think it's kind of a lesson on life and fulfillment and greatness as well. It's like the things that are most difficult to do are often the most simple things, right? It's the stuff that is hard to look at, the inner work that's hard to do. When you actually do that stuff, when you just make the commitment to always be with yourself, always look lookin, always ask, why am I responding that way? What is it within me that's creating this? If you commit to doing that and you commit to working hard on yourself and your energy, you won't have to work so hard in reality because the internal is looking after the external. >> That's true. How would you describe what someone's frequency means? And why does having the right frequency in your life determine whether you will manifest what you want or what you won't create? M. So your frequency basically is consisting of the sum total of you. Okay. So when I talk about frequency, I'm talking about your overall identity essentially. >> So that is the sum total of your beliefs, your beliefs about yourself in the world, >> your dominant emotional states and then your thoughts. >> All of that comprises your energetic frequency. And when we think about it, everything in this universe is energy. Okay? This table is energy. And that camera is energy. All of it is energy. But we are energetic beings as well at our core. So we have these physical bodies. We also have energetic bodies. We also have thoughts existing on the mental field. We also have emotions. All of those things have an energetic frequency. So the the primary kind of shareholders of your frequency is your emotions, your thoughts, your beliefs. >> Mhm. How does someone then elevate their frequency to a level where they can manifest what they want? >> Yeah. Absolutely. There's a lot of people that feel like they have a desire, they want to create something, but they have a roadblock over and over again, and they feel stuck or trapped, and they feel like, "No matter what I do, I'm not creating what I want." >> So, how does someone raise their frequency to start attracting abundance? >> When people think about manifestation, they don't realize the power that their energy actually has. um and they're looking at physical reality and they're they're putting most of their focus actually on what they want to change in their life, right? So, let's say what someone wants to manifest abundance. That person more than likely is focusing on the circumstances of lack in their life because they're so frustrated with the lack that they're constantly thinking about I don't have enough money. I don't I don't want to have this unexpected bill, etc., etc. And so the the biggest hurdle I think for people when they're trying to shift their energy and shift their frequency is they're too focused on their circumstances and their reality that they don't prefer. Because when you focus on something essentially you are using that basically as feedback to your system and for example if you have circumstances of lack and limitation you might start believing that that's all that's possible for you. Right? So you're allowing your circumstances to continue to define your beliefs about yourself, about your money, about the world. Uh that dictates your thoughts, that dictates your identity. And your emotional state towards money stays the same because you're constantly looking and feeling, oh, I feel lack. I feel limited. Right? So the biggest and first step I would say for people if they want to shift their frequency is they have to stop taking their circumstances as definitive. That is like the number one biggest thing that I teach that really starts shifting things for people. They've got to start realizing that they are so much bigger than the circumstances. They are so much bigger. And physical reality, when we think about manifestation, like if you're in a circumstance of lack, that is kind of like the final 1% of manifestation. It's not the full process. There's an entire unseen process that goes on before we hit the final 1% of the circumstance of lack. And that unseen process starts within you in your energetic frequency. So you want to start defining your identity, your beliefs, your attitude, your emotions, your thoughts about money, for example, if that's what you're trying to shift from within. >> How do they start shifting that internally? >> There's so many steps, but the first one is to first of all realize that the past is not does not have to be the future. It does not define them unless they say it does. Okay. So, one of the biggest things, and this is going to we're going to go quite out there for a minute, but one of the biggest things that starts to reframe this for people is when people realize that they are very powerful creative beings and they realize they're already manifesting constantly. We manifest like we breathe air. We can't help it. We literally God created man in his image. Okay? So, we are inherently creative beings. We have an essence. We have like a fractal of that divine essence of God within us, each and every one of us. And I think a lot of people the reason they aren't able to change is because they don't believe that they have this power. They don't believe that they have so much power over their circumstances. And so what ends up happening is they end up treating their circumstances as totally definitive rather than them realizing, oh hey, I'm the one who's creating this situation. I'm the one who's energetically corresponding with the reality of lack. And so when people want to manifest, I think the first thing they have to get into their head is the order of creation in reality. >> What is the order of creation when manifesting a new reality for yourself? >> You can look at this from a few different perspectives, but everything that exists physically in the physical world has come from the non-physical. Okay? So everything physically that exists is just part particles vibrating at different frequencies. Right? before they exist as particles, they exist as waves of potential in the quantum field. So there's infinite potentials in this unseen field that is beyond our senses. What we call physical reality is less than 1% of what exists in the entire universe. Right? And so us as well as human beings, we exist on the physical plane, but we also exist on the mental plane, the plane of thoughts, which is beyond the physical. And we also exist on the spiritual plane where infinite possibilities exist because we are one with the creator. And this the reason I think this is so important for beginning to shift your frequency is you've got to open up your mind and realize that you are so much bigger than physical reality because we've been gifted mental faculties like uh imagination, intellect, intuition, reasoning, will. We have the power to direct our creative consciousness at certain possibilities in the quantum field and then bring those into form. There's an experiment in quantum mechanics is called the double slit experiment which essentially shows that electrons exist as waves of potential. So many possible states in the quantum field until they are observed by an external observer and then they start behaving as particles. Okay. So what that shows us is our consciousness and what we call the material world is intrinsically linked >> and we are influencing everything around us constantly through our focus, through our awareness and through our perspective. Right? And so the first thing you've got to notice, okay, I am playing an integral role here. I am not just this physical body. I always say to people, you did not just fall out of a coconut tree. You are consciousness embodied in physical form. You are consciousness being directed into the mental field at at your neurological tissue that's created mind. So you're existing in the mental field and you're also consciousness existing in a physical body. And so the way you start rising above and shifting your frequency is you start to harness and realize the power of your energy and the power of your thoughts, your perspective, what you focus on and your beliefs. So you want to start really defining that stuff for yourself from the energy of as soon as I change my beliefs, as soon as I change my perspective, as soon as I change my attitude, as soon as I change my identity, everything around me will start to change because that is the way that it works. So, first, even if we've never experienced success or the feeling of abundance or the feeling of I'm putting it an intentional thought out in the world of wanting to create something and it comes to me. >> Yeah. >> Although we're manifesting all the time, no matter what, we're constantly manifesting what we're creating in our life. But if it feels like what we really desire, we're not able to manifest. First, it's shifting the belief that it's possible. Is that what I'm hearing you say? >> Yeah. Because if you never believed it's possible, it's going to be hard to create it. >> Exactly. >> And is that the order of creation? >> So the order of creation, if we break it down simply, is be do have. I know you had Myron Golden on a little while ago and he spoke about this. >> So in Genesis, it says be fruitful, multiply, have dominion. >> Says it right there in Genesis. So essentially you have to become be the version of you who's there already before you can do take the actions before you can have the material results that is the order it's not have do be it's be do have. So even if you've not ever experienced something in your physical reality manifestation is not about experiencing something physically or getting something in the physical world when you look at it on a deeper layer. Manifestation is about getting something internally so that you can see it reflected externally to you. >> Because what you're perceiving is just a mirror reflection of your state of your energy. >> That is all. >> That's it. >> Yeah. >> So, you're perceiving in the physical world what you're experiencing in the internal world. >> Exactly. >> How does someone know what frequency they're actually operating at right now in life? >> By looking at their life. By looking at their results. So you can very quickly tell what your beliefs are, what your identity, self-concept is by looking at the results that you have in your life. You look at your finances, your relationships, your career, what you feel you're worthy of. All of these things that can tell you really quickly where you're operating at. So look at your life, look at your relationship, look at your bank account, look at everything around, look at your health, look at your body and say, "Okay, is my life have the results that I desire or am I kind of mirroring the thoughts, beliefs, and emotions inside of me, physically around me." >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, first do an assessment, your frequency, your energetic frequency, it sounds like, and assess where you're at in your life. >> Yeah. And you know, at one point in my life, I was sleeping on my sister's couch for a year and a half. I had no money. I was been broke, living off three credit cards. And it probably was a reflection of kind of where I was at in my life internally. And once I started to shift the belief around myself of what I'm capable of, I started to see external results as well. Is what I'm hearing you say is first take a look at your life and see where that is. Then look at the order of creation which is instead of wanting to have something and feeling a certain way once you have it, feel that way first. Be that way first. Be the love you want to be. Be positivity. Be joy. >> Be fun. Be playful. And you'll start to create more of that around you as well. >> Absolutely. >> And it's not easy to do. >> Why is it hard for people to be before they have? Because we're conditioned to focus on the external to define our value, our identity from what we see around us. We've forgotten that we are inherently creative beings. And we're not taught how to use the power of our mind, our imagination, belief, intention, none of that. We don't even know about our intuition. We don't know about any of that. All we know is what we see. So we base everything off what we see with our eyes, not realizing that that's just a tiny fractal of what exists and not realizing that we are so much bigger than what we see. And so it's it's a kind of a conditioning thing. It's it's a lack of awareness really. We don't have the awareness to realize that we can be so much more than what we've been experiencing. What's the one thing that you see people do that keeps them stuck even when they're consuming all the right content, going to the right courses and events that are teaching them something about creating what they want? They have the coach, they're investing in the books, they're watching your content, but they're still stuck. What is blocking them from creating that breakthrough? >> Fundamentally, people get stuck when they know they don't want to be who they've been, but they're not ready to be who they're supposed to be yet. Right? So if you almost think of it like every every outcome that you desire in physical reality, there is a version of you that corresponds with that version of reality. And your ticket to getting to that version of reality, that level in this game of life, is becoming that version of you now. That's the only way in. That is the only way. There's no other way in. You have to become that version of you first. Then you can start living within that level in that game of life. Right? And so a lot of people get stuck because they're learning they're they're getting all the information. They're learning all the stuff, but they're not embodying it. they're not actually living it. Okay? So, they could know, okay, I need to set these boundaries. I need to have new standards. I need to cut all of this stuff out. I need to cut these people out. I need to show up more, you know, courageously or I need to show up more authentically or whatever it is. But they just can't do it. And so then a person will enter what I call the in between phase, which is a really painful phase. If you've ever been in the in between phase, it's not nice. That's where you're stuck because you're not who you were and you're not that new version of you yet. So you're just kind of floating in the middle. And the only way that you can get unstuck is to figure out why are you resisting becoming that version of you. Like what is it within you that fears that or thinks you're not worthy of that. >> Cuz nothing you do is random. Every behavior that you have is driven by a belief or a part of you or a past trauma or something like that. And so oftent times we're blocked from stepping into that next level version of us and therefore that next level reality because there's parts of us that are just resisting that that are not ready to go for it. >> Well, it's almost like you have to kill off the person you once were in order to become the version of you that can attract everything of you want. It's maybe not kill off maybe it's a bad thing but it's like something needs to >> you need to let go of something. Whether it's like killing off or letting something die that was once inside of you to start living in a certain way that attracts the things you want. >> Yeah. >> And it's stepping into the alignment of what you want and the way of being that's necessary that's required to attract what you want in the physical world. >> Mhm. >> Right. >> Yeah. Yeah. So when we see people growing a lot and they have a lot of success in the world and they keep reaching new levels, you can look at that person and just know what they're doing is they're changing into different versions of themselves constantly. That is a person who's constantly evolving, which means constantly letting go of parts of the old self. That's the journey. >> You can't bring that with you. >> You can't bring that with you. No. So I always say for every next level that you go to, you're going to have to sacrifice eight part if not multiple parts of you because let's zoom it out for a second. Okay, we're all we all came into these physical bodies. Our souls descended into these physical bodies. We opened our eyes. We started to get conditioned and programmed by the world around us. We started to have different experiences, different traumas, different things happen and we start building this identity. Okay. And oftentimes the identity that we are embodied within for most of our lives is not the vehicle. It's not the identity that corresponds with our dream life. Okay? So we end up with these characteristics and traits that are not aligned with who we really are. They're not aligned with our true path and our true purpose. And then we want to get in alignment with our true path and our true purpose. We're like this is going to be great. We don't realize we have to kill off a whole lot of this old identity in order to actually resonate energetically with this purpose with this with this dream life. >> And where does the ego play into all this? >> The ego. Oh my goodness. The ego gets a lot of um the ego has a lot of negative connotations to me. The ego is not is not negative. You almost want to think of it like this, right? The ego is just like the character that you're playing, right? It's your consciousness at your essence. You're not just this physical body. You're not just your mind. You know that because you can observe your mind, your thoughts, you can observe your body. So you're actually the observer which is the pure consciousness within you. Okay? And the ego essentially is the character that your consciousness is playing in this physical world. So it's like light filtering in through a stained glass window. I think I heard someone say that before, but that's such a good analogy. You're the light, but you're also the projection through the stained glass window, which is the ego, the character. And even if you want to think of it like a video game, you're the character in this video game, but you're also the player of the character. So the ego is kind of like your vehicle throughout this reality. It's not negative. It can be very limiting though >> because if you're playing in an ego character that's not aligned with the life that you desire, then that is going to be standing in the way of you resonating with it vibrationally. So, how does someone harness the power of their ego to be in alignment for good rather than something that's hurting them? >> Personally, I believe the most powerful first step for being able to manage your ego. You want to think of it like a wild like horse cuz it it will control you if you're unconscious of it. You need space from it. You need space. That is the ultimate step one. When you don't have space from your ego, you think you are just the way that you are. You don't realize that you have the power to change your characteristics. And even if you look at, you know, when you wake up in the morning and you open your eyes and your consciousness flows into your brain, you automatically start firing and wiring the same thoughts that you did the day before. Automatically, it happens on autopilot. You have like these welltrodden neural pathways in your head that are just they've been used for so long that the brain will just use them because it conserves the most energy to use them. It's the easiest route. So you'll think the same things about yourself, about your life, about everything. >> And it's very difficult to step into a new version of you, a new way of thinking about things while you're still entrenched in the old one. It's like it's like trying to jump across the Grand Canyon. It's like it's really difficult. But if you can take your conscious awareness away from your old thought patterns and away from this old version of you and you can enter stillness, present moment awareness, you can realize I'm not just these thoughts. I'm not just this version of me. And then from there you have the power to direct your awareness down a new pathway. One that corresponds with a new version of you, a new way of looking at the world. >> We have this thing called limiting beliefs a lot. You know, people say that you have a limiting belief and that's one of the things that's holding you back. What would you say is the opposite of a limiting belief and how can someone start to embrace that opposite? >> I love this question. I love this question. Okay, so the opposite of a limiting belief is an empowering belief. >> Most people never have empowering beliefs because they doubt themselves and put themselves down constantly. >> So, how do we step into empowering beliefs? >> First of all, you need to realize that you have limiting beliefs. Mhm. >> And how you start to identify your limiting beliefs, like we said earlier, is you you look at your life and your results and you look at, well, what do I need to believe about money for this to be the case in my reality, for me to be running out of money every month? Or what do I need to believe about myself and what I'm worthy of for me to not be able to attract more money in my life? So, you almost do like a a case study of yourself. And again, it helps a lot if you're in that like observer energy, that neutral state, and you look at, okay, the results that I'm having in my life, they are in direct reflection to my subconscious beliefs. So, if I want different results, I need to figure out what am I believing here that's creating this experience for me. You start to identify it. The other way you can identify your limiting beliefs is to notice when you are speaking something over you that makes you feel limited. Notice when you say something that like shrinks you or makes you feel small or makes you feel like you can't do something >> like what like I can't or that's not possible or >> that's not me. I could never do that. Must be nice. That kind of stuff. Like if you see someone else succeeding you're like oh yeah they could have it but I could never. Those are all pointing to limiting beliefs. Um so that's step one is to you have to identify first when you have limiting beliefs. Once you have realized, oh wow, okay, I have a limiting belief, you want to kind of figure out what the narrative is and where it's coming from. Oftentimes, we have limiting beliefs that get into our subconscious mind at a very young age because when we're young, our subconscious mind is like a sponge. When we're children, especially below the age of 3 or 2 years old, we just take in all the information from our parents. We don't have like that conscious part of the brain that can like divide out what we want to take in or not. It's just automatic. It's kind of a survival thing. Actually, we need to in order to survive, we need to just learn quickly and absorb information. But if you grew up in a household where your parents were constantly stressed about money and they were saying money doesn't grow on trees, that kind of stuff, that gets right in there to your subconscious mind. And once a belief is in your subconscious mind, it gets to work automatically creating your perception of reality. Because if you think about it, okay, what is a belief? A belief is a thought backed by emotional conviction. Typically, like if all the thoughts you were to think were to get into your subconscious mind, that would be crazy because you could think about a giraffe and then all of a sudden you'd just be perceiving all the giraffes in your environment, it would just be mad. So, the only things that really get into your subconscious are the beliefs that are backed by a lot of emotional intensity or repetition, which cause an emotional intensity over time. That's what creates your subconscious beliefs other than the beliefs that are formed in childhood when you're really ill. And so when we think about a human being who has a certain set of beliefs, that's essentially the information that you have perceived throughout your life that your body has registered as important because you had an emotional reaction to it. And your subconscious stores that basically as a program to make sure you focus on that stuff because you've signaled that this stuff is important cuz you're emotionally tied up in it. And so you will perceive in reality that which is in the box of your subconscious beliefs and nothing outside of that. That'll be your experience. And it will also dictate what your body does. It will dictate the actions you take automatically. And people have a hard time like believing this like, oh, if I change my belief, things won't just change. But your body is automatically already taking actions based on your subconscious beliefs. Like if you have a belief that I'm I'm not good with money, you're automatically not going to be good with money. But if you switch that belief to I am good with money, your body will automatically start being good with money because your your subconscious mind controls your body. of it. >> Yeah. And what for you then was the biggest limiting belief that you had to break through and the moment you broke through it, you started creating a whole new world for yourself. >> For me, it's been constant. Honestly, it I I'm constantly changing beliefs. I think one of the biggest ones, and this seemed like a subtle one at first, was believing that I couldn't make YouTube content because I didn't have a prior qualification. Mhm. >> That stopped me for years. >> Really? >> Years. >> How many years? >> Oh, I would have been on YouTube probably at the age of 15 if I didn't believe. >> Oh, wow. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> And I remember I was I was getting to the point I was getting so fed up with not starting on YouTube. And I was like, right, what is it? Why can't I start? What do I believe about myself? >> What was it? >> It was this belief that you you can't get on YouTube because you don't have a qualification for YouTube. >> What a qualification for what? >> I don't know. This is beliefs don't make sense. Sometimes they don't make sense. But I thought, you know, I need to have a super successful business or I need to have some kind of accolade for people to take me seriously or to feel like my voice matters or anything like that. Um, so I sat down with that. This is one of the clearest ones I can remember. And by the way, if you're rewiring a belief, you just get your journal out and just write down, okay, where is this coming from? What is this narrative? What is this based on? I was looking I didn't realize, but I was looking at stuff in my reality that backed up this belief. I was only really watching people who had achieved a lot of success before before. So I was thinking right I'm not then so I can't do this. I can't make content. >> Um then I looked a little bit deeper and I was like okay what do I want to believe instead? So to answer your question about how to rewire belief we're going to go back to that now through this example. Essentially you reprogram a belief you identify it. You figure out where it came from and then cuz when you figure out where it came from essentially you start to reduce sometimes the emotional weight that it has. When you figure out that you have a belief from something ages ago that maybe it wasn't even yours, maybe it was your parents, a lot of the emotional intensity you felt before in that belief, it starts to drop off because you realize, oh wow, that's actually not really true or that doesn't have to be true for me anymore. So rewiring a belief, you essentially you've got one belief that's already in your mind, right? That's the one that you've got. Say that's your limiting belief. To get rid of this one, you need a new, more empowering belief that totally contradicts the old one. So if you have a belief I'm broke, you need to have a belief like I'm abundant because that's an opposite belief. And if you can believe in that more, i.e. buy into your emotions more than the old one, it will displace it. I've called this the law of displacement. I don't know if I made that up. I feel like I have. But essentially, you rewire a belief by displacing it. >> So break it down. So give me an example of like a belief around something and how to displace it. >> Okay. So let's take the example of someone who thinks they're bad with money, right? They're going throughout their life, they're very bad at money. They realize, oh, hey, I have a belief that I'm bad at money. They want to look at, right, where did that come from? [snorts] Maybe it came from times where their they saw their parents be really bad at money and we just are not good with that kind of stuff. We're not like that, right? So, they have this narrative instilled into them >> that they're bad at money. They're just not the kind of person who's financially >> it's hard to make money, it's hard to manage money or whatever it might be. Yeah. So from a young age they might have this belief instilled into them that they are bad with money and what they can do practically just see where that comes from and then go okay what do I want to believe instead this is like the pivotal point when it starts to shift what do I want to believe instead >> so I have a certain belief that I'm bad with money >> now what do I want to believe instead I want to believe this >> yeah you have to figure out what an opposite belief is in that same in that same category that could replace it right >> so An opposite belief is I'm good with money. Now, what a lot of people make a mistake with when they're trying to rewire a belief is they're trying to pick a belief that feels a million miles away. So, someone who has a belief, I'm bad at money. They might want to bring in a belief, I'm amazing with money. I'm like Warren Buffett, but that's not going to work cuz you can't buy into that with your emotions. So, it's not going to rewire it. >> It's not believable right now. >> It's not believable. >> Your body doesn't believe it. You're lying to your immune system, everything. It's like, but that doesn't feel right. I'm just lying. >> Yeah. So, how do you create a new belief that you've never experienced without lying to yourself? >> These are questions I've asked myself so much and lucky for you, I have an answer. You pick a belief you can believe in. Even just like a little bit believe in. Pick the lowest hanging fruit belief that's more empowering than your old one. >> I don't know if you've heard of the law of polarity, but essentially you're moving up the spectrum from the negative end of a particular belief or particular energy into the positive end. It doesn't mean you have to go from I'm broke to I'm super wealthy. It could be I'm broke to I'm improving every day in my finances, right? It could be I'm bad at money to I'm getting better and better with money. I'm not as bad as I used to be at money. So, you're trending along the spectrum into the more positive range. But the key thing is the moment you buy into the belief that you are getting better at money, that replaces the belief of I'm bad at money cuz the two can't exist at the same time cuz they're opposing each other. >> Yes. Okay. So, you pick something you can believe in and then you buy into that with your emotions. How do you buy into that with your emotions? There's a few ways. The first thing you can do is close your eyes, calm yourself down, slow down your brain waves, relax your body completely, let your consciousness come out of your thinking mind and into your subconscious mind where it can connect to a new possibility to your imagination. And then you just visualize what it feels like for you to live in this new belief as your new reality. And you get your emotions involved. So you picture in your mind using your imaginative powers what reality feels like, how you feel in this new belief of I'm I'm getting better and better at money. You might play out a scene where you're doing up a budget or you're deciding not to splurge on something or you're deciding to invest in something and you key point you feel how that feels in your body. What you're doing in that moment is you're bringing in the the new thought of I'm getting better at money. You're bringing in the emotion that's associated with that thought. And the more you can feel that emotion, the more it wires in the new belief because a belief is just a thought backed by emotion. Right? >> Mhm. >> So you have the frequency of the thought, the frequency of the emotion. When they come together, they get wired in. And when it reaches the threshold that you're feeling that more than you felt the old one, then it displaces the old one and enters your subconscious mind. >> A belief is a thought backed by emotion. Right? What is the emotion that has been on repeat for you lately that is not serving you that you're working on overcoming? >> Impatience. >> Impatience. Yeah. >> You want everything done yesterday? Yeah. >> Um uh yeah, I'm having to catch myself cuz I'm pedalling [clears throat] into the future cuz I get excited about all the things that I'm doing and then I forget to be here now, which is so important because your power is here and now. All the opportunities you could ever need are right in front of you right here and now. They're not in the future. Um, so yeah, for me impatience, present moment awareness is something that I'm having to come back to. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> So, how do you if someone is impatient, how do I learn how to be present with this practice? I think for me when when when I'm personally trying to learn something and this is what I feel like helps a lot of people, you kind of have to understand what you have to lose from operating the way that you're operating. Right? So for me working on impatience, I have to look at okay, what is it costing me being impatient? It's costing me the present moment. It's costing me my power right now in this present moment. It's costing me my happiness and fulfillment right now in the present moment. And it's also blocking me from surrendering and allowing things to unfold actually as they need to. >> There's a really great verse I love. It's with man this is impossible. With God all things are possible. And essentially the meaning that I uh interpret from that is when we're forcing all the time in our logic and we're trying to figure everything out, we're trying to think 20 steps ahead. we typically get in the way of the divine path unfolding in the best possible way because [snorts] whatever future outcome that you want, it's going to be a different version of you at that outcome as we spoke about >> and what's logical to that version of you is very difficult different to what's logical to this version of you. >> So you trying to figure everything out from this old version of you, you're not even the version that's going to be at this new reality. So you're typically not going to know the ways how. like you don't have all the information yet of how this thing is going to unfold. So a lot of people they stress themselves out getting impatient, getting frustrated, thinking 10 steps ahead when the only step you can really have control over and you can really figure out is the one that's right in front of you. >> And I always say to people, the path illuminates as you walk it. You're going to know what next step to take. And when you step on that step, then you're going to know the second step to take. And when you step on the second one, then you're going to know the third one. But you're not going to know all 20 steps when you're on the first step. Why? Because every step that you take that who you are, who you're embodied in changes a little bit. Your energy changes a little bit. Your perspective changes a little bit. And then when your perspective changes, the steps that you can perceive to take change, right? So who you are on step zero is not the same as who you are on step five. And that is why you need to be patient because you have to go all in on the step that's in front of you so that you can keep stepping forward as this new version of you. Your energy keeps shifting. Your perspective keeps shifting and then the path just unfolds as you walk it. >> It's so hard for people that want to know exactly what to do in the future. They want to strategize everything. I mean, I I'm guilty of that as well. It's like, okay, I want to know exactly I have a goal. I want to know all the steps it's going to take to get there. At least a semi-detailed plan. But a lot of time the ch the plan's gonna change. >> Yeah. >> You know, so it's so someone has a goal in mind, you know, they're listening to this, they're watching this, and they say, "Okay, I want to create this specific outcome in my life, my health, my relationship, a new career, a business, a certain amount of money, and here's my detailed 10step plan. What should people be thinking differently around accomplishing a goal instead of trying to have everything figured out from now until that goal happens? >> It depends on how different the goal is to where they are right now. If you're going to a reality and experience a reality that's very different from where you have been, it's going to be a very different version of you >> that's able to correspond energetically with that. And again, that version of you has a whole different perspective. What's logical for them, the ideas that they have, the actions that they take is very different from this version of you. That's why they can have those results. And this version of you can't. >> So what I say to people when they're trying to manifest a big change in their life, you write down the vision. and you get it as clear as possible from what you know now. But you write that down so that you can then extract from the vision who is the version of you who's there already because that is the vehicle to get there. That is the path. Don't worry about the path that your old mindset is making up. Your old mindset has gotten you the results that you have right now. It's not going to get you to the new reality because essentially your logic has just been programmed by what you've experienced up until this moment. It can't tell you how to get somewhere it's never experienced before. Okay? So, and that old version of you, that old way of thinking, it's not coming with you to this new reality. So, you don't need to listen to it. Okay? So, a lot of people, they shoot themselves in the foot because they start trying to think, "Oh my god, I have this big dream. I have this big vision, but it doesn't make sense. They're trying to make it compute with what they've experienced in the past when it's a totally different vibration. It's a totally different reality. And it's not going to make sense to the old version of them. And it's okay that it doesn't because that version of them is not coming with them. >> So tangibly, what can someone hold on to then? They hold on to them to to becoming the new version of them. They go all in on becoming the version of them who's there already. And when they do that, their identity begins to shift, their beliefs begin to shift, their thoughts begin to shift, and then what they think is logical, the ideas that they perceive to take, the actions they perceive to take, that all changes automatically. If someone's in a breakdown right now, how do they even know there's a good version of them inside of themselves when all they feel is shame, guilt, embarrassment, loss, like they're not enough? >> And no matter what they do, they're never going to be enough. >> I think it it starts with just educating yourself on why you feel the way that you feel. >> None of us were born ashamed. None of us were born traumatized or not feeling good enough. Okay. So, we're all inherently whole. We're all inherently good enough. We're all inherently abundant. We're all inherently very connected. At our essence, we are that can't be touched. That cannot be touched. But as we go throughout life, we go through different experiences that program us into believing that we're not good enough. We might have different like trauma experiences. And when I say trauma experience, I don't mean it doesn't even have to be a big trauma, right? A lot of people do have big trauma, but a trauma is just something that was distressing. It's a distressing experience that was not resolved in the moment. So, a trauma for a person could literally just be as a baby not getting enough eye contact. That could be a trauma. >> And as a baby, you need a certain amount of eye contact. Otherwise, you start to feel like you're not seen, like you're not important, like you're not valid, like you're not safe. That's a trauma. And so a person as a baby who just didn't get enough eye contact from their mother, they might have an integral belief that I'm not worthy. I'm not enough just from that. Okay. >> So I think it starts with understanding that we're we all have trauma. We all have trauma except maybe like the enlightened masters that have walked this earth. I think they're pretty clear. But all of us as human beings, we have inherit a lot of trauma. And it's not to point the finger at your parents or your family and say, "Oh, this is their fault." No, because they had trauma. So this world is operating in a certain state of consciousness that makes it quite difficult to meet all the needs of children and of people around us. We're quite separated from each other and we're quite disconnected from the heart and from connection and from meeting our needs together as a collective. And so naturally we inherit these traumas because of that when we're very young. And those are the things typically that cause us to hold on to shame, self-doubt, feelings of not good enough. I read recently that 80% of millennials don't feel good enough >> or more. >> That is a problem, right? Because every like and when you start to dig into the reasons why someone doesn't feel good enough, this is the crazy thing. You start to realize >> there's there's really no basis for it, right? So, it starts with understanding that this is you're not alone if you feel this. First of all, you're definitely not alone. You're in the majority. And the reason so many people feel that way is because of the experiences they've had throughout their life that have not been resolved yet. >> So, it comes down to healing and and and creating a a space for yourself to heal the different big or little traumas in your life that have been unresolved >> and resolving those and creating new meaning around those experiences or new relief around those experiences where they don't define your beliefs anymore. Yeah. >> And when the past is defining who you are and your beliefs around what is possible for your life, then you're always going to feel stuck at some level or you're always going to be repeating a pattern in a new environment just replicating an old belief until you shift and start to heal the past so you can create space for new beliefs. You know, you hear this you hear this thing about people saying like take your power back. >> Mhm. >> Like you got to take your power back. Does taking your power back meaning starting a healing process, creating boundaries, doing shadow work, like what is taking your power back actually mean? And where does your power live? >> I love this question. I only answered this question in my journal two weeks ago, so you're like connected to we're quantum entangled. >> Okay, so a lot of people think that taking your power back is about saying affirmations and repeating to yourself, I am confident. I am powerful. Yes, that stuff can can help you. It can it can help direct your focus. But really, your power is found in facing all the parts of you that believe you don't have power. >> That's where your power is because that's the stuff that's keeping your power locked up and hidden away from you. Okay? So the ashamed parts, the parts that fear that you'll never be enough. Facing those, meeting those, integrating those is the path back to your power because inherently you're powerful. You are inherently very, very powerful. Bob Proctor used to say you have enough uh power in your body to fuel an entire modern city for a week, right? We're very powerful beings. We were born powerful, but we've forgotten it because of the experiences that we've gone through throughout our life that cause us to believe that we don't have power. >> On a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being ultimate power for yourself, not in terms of like ruling the world or something, but you feeling ultimate power within yourself. One feeling like you have no power. Where are you currently on that scale? >> I'd say I'm about an eight. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Where were you a few years ago? >> Oh. [laughter] Um, a few years ago, well about three years ago, I was living in my mother's house in the spare room. So, I was about a two, I would say. Yeah, I was about a two. And the journey from a two to an eight, and it's ongoing. it's constantly ongoing. Uh was really just getting honest with myself about why I was where I was and beginning to get curious about why I felt so bad about myself, why I felt so disconnected from myself and how I could start to make my way back. And you know, you asked a question earlier, when someone's at rock bottom or they're in that rut, how do they start to move out of it? Someone gets in a rut when they have been forcing living their life out of alignment for too long and running from themselves and forcing for too long. And so the only real way to get out of it and never get in it again is to start to actually meet yourself. When you're in that rock bottom, when you're really disconnected from your power, you need to come back into your body. >> You need to call your energy back. Call your power back from all these things outside you. all the distractions, all the noise, all the social media, all the things that you're tying your value to, all of that. You need to come back into your body, regulate your nervous system, connect with yourself, begin to talk to yourself, begin to get to know yourself. That is how the journey begins. The most important relationship that you will ever have for your whole life is your relationship to yourself. It's the only person you're going to be with till the day that you die and then after with your soul is eternal, right? And so, you know, the things that you're thinking about yourself, the way that you speak to yourself, that connection you have to yourself, it's the foundation for everything else in your life. So, if someone is in that in that phase like where I was a couple of years ago where I was so lost, so disconnected, at that rock bottom, the way back to your power is by realizing you have the answers inside you, and you need to come back to yourself to find them. >> Yeah. But a lot of people don't feel like they have the the wisdom inside of them, right? They don't feel that way. What do you think is the biggest thing blocking you from your next level? And whatever that looks like, doesn't mean it has to be creating more money or more followers or more results externally, but whatever that next level is for you. >> Mine is quite niche. Um, I'm going to answer honestly, even though it's quite niche for me, I'm I'm in a bit of a dance at the moment with balancing my masculine and feminine energy. I've been in my masculine for a really long time and I naturally have a good balance of both that like left and right hemisphere. But I think my next level is going to require me to be more in my feminine. >> What does that mean? >> More so what we're talking about earlier the impatience more in that surrender, that flow, that present moment, more in my creative element. And that's going to require me to trust a lot more. Why is it hard for you or some women to trust and step into their feminine nature? >> Well, because we live in a masculine world. Masculine energy runs supreme in this in this world at the moment. Feminine energies are not prioritized so much. So, we're in the realm of intellect, of logic, of reason, of will, those are all masculine energies. So, women, when we are born into this reality, and and men and women have both masculine and feminine energies, right? So the ideal man is like 51% masculine, 49% feminine, and vice versa for a woman. We each have these polarities within us. That's our creative power, right? We we need both of them. They balance each other out. And in fact, your inner masculine can't be at his most powerful if your inner feminine is not at her most powerful. Because your feminine energy is like the gas. It's the one that visualizes, imagines, creates, plays. It's that presence, that regulation. And then your masculine energy is the action taker. It's the car. Okay? So, it's the one that's going to actually drive, make the plans, take the actions, execute, figure out the logical how it's going to happen. You need both of them. It's the one that initiates as well your masculine. So, you need both. And what we see in in the world today is most people are totally burnt out in their masculine. They're totally disconnected from their feminine because we're trained to just kind of hustle and hustle and hustle and sacrifice ourselves and our authenticity and everything just to make money or get success. when actually if you were to come back and balance out these energies and connect to a meaningful vision for yourself and for your life, you would be far more successful. You would be successful on your own terms because you'd be feeding from your feminine energy, a vision that feels aligned and lights you up. That's a lot of gas for your masculine. And so naturally, your masculine will want to take big actions and stuff to bring that vision to life because it's actually meaningful. That's masculine feminine energy and harmony. But to answer your question, why women feel like it's difficult to connect to their feminine is because masculine energy is is the dominant energy in the world. And a woman typically she's more connected to her feminine than a man. But if she's in a stressful situation, if she's in survival mode, the default is to go to the masculine >> control. Yeah. >> Or a sense of control. >> Yeah. So the mas the the burnt out survival mode masculine looks like controlling things you can't control overwork procrastinating all of that is is like the kind of wounded masculine energy that we see. >> So you feel like you've been more in the masculine energy. >> Yeah. >> In the last few years. >> Well for me it's kind of gone up and down. I was in my masculine energy for my whole life up until I had a little bit of a spiritual awakening and then I was like I don't need my masculine energy. I'm just going to live, laugh, love, and flow throughout life and everything's just going to come to me. Which that doesn't work either because yes, you can manifest certain things without taking too much action. But if you want to manifest your dream life where you're living in your purpose and your power, you need to take action. You need to have initiative. So for me, I've found that I need to basically every time my feminine grows, my masculine needs to grow. And every time my masculine grows, my feminine needs to grow again. And so now I'm in a season of strengthening that inner feminine again, nurturing a new vision again, uh dreaming bigger again because I've kind of grown a lot within this level, but now it's time for me to kind of evolve into the next level, which means greater levels of trust, connection to myself, and then greater levels of action. >> What do those ways of being look like then for you stepping into your feminine energy more frequently? What is that? Is that playing more? Trusting people to do certain jobs for you instead of you doing everything? >> Like what does that energy look like? >> So feminine energy is the energy of Yeah, it's receiving. So allowing yourself to receive support or anything like that. It's also just the energy of being. It's the energy of presence. And so for me personally, what that's going to look like going forward is operating even more from my heart, from my intuition than my intellect and my logic. because I'm I'm grateful I have a strong intellect. It allows me to break things down and break concepts down. But, you know, there's different types of intelligence. There's mind intelligence and then there's heart intelligence. So, I'm tapping more into the heart intelligence where I'm leading more with, [snorts] you know, connecting more to people, feeling more into what people need and just moving more from a place of intuition rather than trying to make everything make sense all the time. >> Yeah. Yeah. From your heart. Yeah. >> More from your heart. >> That is feminine. That's feminine energy. >> Yeah. If you could go into the future 10 years from now to the the version of yourself who is living a bigger dream in reality. >> Yeah. >> In present time, 10 years in the future, what would she say to you right now that you really need to hear? >> She would tell me to have more fun in the process and enjoy the process more. It's interesting you asked that question because before this interview today, I connected with that version of me, [laughter] my like higher self in the future. And I said, "Do you have any like in a meditative state, I imagined her in front of me and I said, "What would you say to me?" And she was like, "Just have fun today." And every day from now on when you're doing something that's in alignment, enjoy it rather than thinking into the future. Um, so for me personally, I think that's what my future self would say to me. What's something you've been saying lately that has resonated with a lot of people? Just the more frequently you say it, it's just like everyone resonates with it. >> That you are not this persona that's been created from your past and from your conditioning. You are so much bigger than that. There is so much power within each and every human being. And it's not going to be found from looking outside you, looking at other people, chasing all the things that don't matter to you. It's going to be always found by coming back to yourself, facing the things within you that are causing you to be disconnected from that power. And the good news is you can do that. You have all the tools that you need to do that. You can heal anything that's happened to you. You just have to have the courage to do it. >> And that is where you will tap into like tremendous reservoirs of potential, of talent, of insight. It's all there within you, within each and every person waiting to be unlocked. >> Yeah, that's powerful. You've got a lot of great content over on uh YouTube, Katie Clark 2100 over on on YouTube or on Instagram as well, Katie Clark official. if people want to get more content. A lot of great you do these great kind of whiteboard uh explanations breaking things down. So, I don't know if that's more in your masculine or feminine when you do that, but you're analytically breaking things down, which is great because people learn >> uh based on how you're you're creating it. So, I think it's really cool, but maybe that's just something to look at, you know, how you can step into this energy while you're creating those videos more in the future. But, they've been really effective and helpful. So, I want to acknowledge you for one, having the courage to show up for your 15-year-old self, even if it was many years later, and and create the thing you wanted to create, even when you didn't feel like you were ready. And two, for sticking with it after you quit for a period of time, sabotaged yourself, and coming back to it, which is also a scary thing to do. So, I acknowledge you for doing that because you've been helping a lot of people over the last few years and your content, the way you share it from your unique experience and your personality is of service to a lot of people. So, I acknowledge you for being consistent, Katie, and for for helping a lot of people with your message. You also got a meditation app coming out called Presence. >> It's coming out pretty soon. And so if they go to your YouTube channel, they can learn more about that. >> If they want to learn more on how to tap into this power that they have inside of them, they can check out the app as well. I've got a couple final questions for you, Katie. This one's called the three truths. Imagine you get to live as long as you want, but it's your final day on Earth. And um you get to have everything manifest in your life. You get to create whatever you want to create. But on the last day, in this hypothetical scenario, you have to take all of your content with you. So, we don't have access to your message anymore, but you get to leave behind three final truths, three lessons that you would leave behind where we would get to keep and have access to. What would those three truths be for you? >> You are so much bigger than your circumstances. And the only way that you're going to find out that you're bigger than your circumstances is to start acting like you're bigger than your circumstances. So you are either defining your circumstances or your circumstances are defining you. >> That is the first one. The second one is the answers that you are looking for are within you. They're always going to be within you. And when you feel yourself getting lost or straying from the path or not knowing what's going on, getting caught up in things outside you, just remember that all of the answers, all of the clarity, it's all right there within you, waiting for you to come back to yourself to be able to connect to it again. Well, the third one is that you are incredibly powerful and your power will be found in meeting, facing, healing, integrating all the parts of you that believe that you don't have any. >> And final question, what's your definition of greatness? To me, greatness is having the courage to be authentic, to be who you really are, to be who you were divinely designed to be. >> No matter what that requires you to face or get rid of or change. That to me is greatness because greatness is different to every single person. >> Yeah. >> But depends on what you were designed to do in this life. >> Yeah. Katie, thanks so much for being here. Appreciate [music] you. Thank you. >> What ends up happening is that no matter how hard we try to manifest, no matter how much we deepen spiritually or how [music] much we hold the vision like you said, right, and have the intention, things may show up [music] because your focus is redirected, but then it may show up and you can't keep